============================================================== Guild: Ooga Booga Capital Management Channel: ๐Ÿš€ Logistics / general Topic: https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/ ============================================================== [16-Jun-21 01:52 PM] figaro0714#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jun-21 01:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jun-21 01:53 PM] insensless72#0000 Hey guys, as the corp expands I figured it would make things easier to have our own discord. I will post the link in game as well for new members to join {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [16-Jun-21 01:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thanks mang [16-Jun-21 02:56 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jun-21 07:15 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jun-21 10:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Shipping from ANT -> Phobos with about 250m^3 of cargo space [16-Jun-21 10:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 departure in 24 hours, arrival to phobos in 48 hrs. Free shipping [17-Jun-21 01:39 AM] figaro0714#0000 so we can look like we know what we're doing {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/854973444076470283/OBCMlogo2.JPG?ex=68151151&is=6813bfd1&hm=2485a710d25ad89740e7f768276f6251f7913f41965d751e19bab06b1333487f& [17-Jun-21 01:40 AM] insensless72#0000 Thats fantastic, i twont let me save it though [17-Jun-21 01:41 AM] figaro0714#0000 That's weird, maybe because it's a screenshot [17-Jun-21 01:41 AM] figaro0714#0000 if you guys like it i'll try any make a higher res version of it [17-Jun-21 01:41 AM] figaro0714#0000 and* [17-Jun-21 10:16 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Looks pretty good! [17-Jun-21 10:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 awesome. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Jun-21 10:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 CEO stamp of approval [18-Jun-21 03:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone Hello OOG members. Everyone is here except for Earthling who doesnt use discord. I will show them this message personally so we are all in the loop. Current state of the corporation: DLR ---------- Phobos with FRM, FP, EXT, INC output (POL planned, several weeks out) Earthling ---- Phobos with PP1 output (BMP in near future) Figaro ------- Phobos with PP1 and PP2 output Insnesless --- Deimos with PP2 output (PP3 planned, several weeks out) MegaSaberEXE - Deimos with FRM output Tadabe ------- Harmonia with FP, FRM output (HYF in near future) As you can see we are heavy into PP1/PP2 with some FP/agriculture support. It is important to note that all of our PP1/PP2 bases also operate a SME so they can make their own metal. My Carbon output is reserved 100% for corporate smelters to keep them running. Short term planning (within 30 days): - Earthling will be making a BMP on phobos within 3-4 days which will give us lots of flexibility, cheap OVE, etc. It also introduces demand for Hydrogen gas. - Tadabe is hurrying to get an HYF up on Harmonia in order to produce coffee and other goodies - With the PP2 outputs, we are very close to being vertical into new base building. The only thing we lack is POL -> PPF to make PSL for the core module of a new base. If anyone is interested in operating a PPF (3D printer), this is an option that would streamline our base building, but honestly I dont know that it will be profitable on its own. Without a PPF, I will need to swing bulk trades of PG for PSL with the ANTS members who have existing PPF buildings on phobos. This will work but they will almost certainly jack the prices on me. Regardless, I will be making a POL on phobos ASAP to get a PG stockpile running. Today I build 3 buildings (HB1, FRM, FP) and then its off to HB2 + POL Long term planning (30+ days): Insnesless will be going for a PP3 on Deimos. I dont know his exact timeline but its close to the 30-40 day mark. Feel free to update below. [18-Jun-21 03:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think it is time to have a serious discussion of where to settle new bases. First up is the reality that we cant realistically afford low temperature worlds without going into considerable debt. This is an option but I dont think the corp can supply the loan for INS, and we dont have the means to produce it. Also, High temperature, High pressure, High gravity are not possible for anyone in the game right now. The supplies simply dont exist yet. This leaves normal rocky planets like we are all currently on, or any combination of: Gas planet --- AEF Low pressure - SEA Low gravity -- MGC With these constraints, Here are my preferred planets and my reasoning for each: Harmonia -- Easy, local, plenty of food and water, existing corporate trade route due to Tadabe and his coffee situation KI-840c --- 5 jumps from phobos with magnesium and copper, as well as BRM and some Galerite, Extractors only WR-681b --- 9 jumps (far) low pressure, lots of copper and some higher tier rare items. Extractor and Collector only. Etherwind - Tadabe's favorite, best water output available. Nike ------ Local, low pressure limestone planet. Local market already built. Allowing for low temperature, we get some really cool shit if we can somehow get our hands on THF -> INS KI-401b -- Titanium, Zirconium, Iron ZV-639d -- Nitrogen AJ-293g -- Fast Fuel Feel free to throw in your two cents, thanks for reading. [18-Jun-21 03:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Oh, also there is a really excellent low temperature planet nearby recently settled by ANTS: KI-401b [18-Jun-21 04:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 2COL gas collector base special material costs on low temp + low pressure gas planet: CM = 25 area = 250 INS, 25 SEA, 9 AEF COL = 15 area = 150 INS, 15 SEA, 5 AEF HB1 = 10 area = 100 INS, 10 SEA, 4 AEF 1 CRM + 2 COL + 1 HB1 = 650 INS, 65 SEA, 23 AEF {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [18-Jun-21 08:20 PM] figaro0714#0000 Idk know much but Nike looks interesting cause of the Limestone, which currently looks like theres a duopoly. Limestone is also crucial for all our prefabs. And its convenient being so close with a LM. [18-Jun-21 09:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I agree, and it only requires sealant, which we can can produce entirely on our own if we buy SCR or S [18-Jun-21 09:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think a constructor should go for it, its a situation where you can supply your own BSE [18-Jun-21 09:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 only build extractors on Nike, BSE, SEA, MCG only, and you can make both of those items on phobos if you export the LST and buy SCR [18-Jun-21 10:59 PM] figaro0714#0000 Maybe that's something i should start working on [19-Jun-21 08:35 PM] insensless72#0000 Figaro, if youre going PP3 im going to rush Nike, its only 1 jump from me and i could do it quickly [19-Jun-21 08:35 PM] insensless72#0000 that way all us constructors have a LST supply internally [19-Jun-21 09:50 PM] figaro0714#0000 I think i will be going PP3, so u can go Nike [20-Jun-21 09:52 AM] insensless72#0000 Sending 140 ALO to the Exchange later today unless someone wants it. Lmk if you anything shipped MegaSaber [20-Jun-21 01:42 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Thanks for the offer Insensless. I'm good [27-Jun-21 08:59 PM] insensless72#0000 Update on the expansion to Nike. I have the 8 TRU, and 4 LTA needed. Im in the process of buying enough resources to produce 2/4 LDE needed. INS and SEA are going to be an issue monetarily. Im working on stacking enough capital to try and resolve that. MCG is easy and that will be the last step. I am hoping to expand within the next 2 weeks [27-Jun-21 09:00 PM] insensless72#0000 @bitcoin_ape Does Earthling have a BMP? [27-Jun-21 11:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes [27-Jun-21 11:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 You dont need INS to settle on Nike, only SEA [27-Jun-21 11:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 and MCG like normal [27-Jun-21 11:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling has a BMP [28-Jun-21 02:21 PM] insensless72#0000 Youre right its PSL [28-Jun-21 02:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Next on my list is bringing this POL online to start getting PG for those [28-Jun-21 02:31 PM] insensless72#0000 Im in the process of buying 100 MCG from Earthling so in that exchange ill give you that BTA [28-Jun-21 02:32 PM] insensless72#0000 @figaro0714 If you need anything from Deimos I could provide that to you as well [28-Jun-21 02:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Im still a ways off. You may be able to get enough cash to make it happen before I even get this POL running [28-Jun-21 02:33 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Figaro is about to supply me with the LBH but i still need a decent amount of BFABs + repair my RIGs with 12 BSE [28-Jun-21 02:33 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It will happen, things are moving faster now [28-Jun-21 02:49 PM] insensless72#0000 How many BFABs? I keep BSE and BBH in constant production [28-Jun-21 02:50 PM] insensless72#0000 I know you have 2 PP1 on planet though [28-Jun-21 03:00 PM] figaro0714#0000 @insensless72 thanks for asking but I'm good for now [28-Jun-21 03:00 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape i have 12 bse if u need [28-Jun-21 03:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is what I need to start running POL including HB2: 6 BSE 6 BDE 2 BTA 2 BBH [28-Jun-21 03:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Figaro money is the issue. I need time. [28-Jun-21 03:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I can barely afford the 8 LBH, but I will buy them now as discussed and worry about the BFABs later since they are easier to get {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [03-Jul-21 01:57 AM] insensless72#0000 I have extra ALO if anyone wants some cheap [05-Jul-21 08:40 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I would but i'm still building up, but how many and how much though? [06-Jul-21 10:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP [06-Jul-21 10:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Go to #access-request channel in the above server [06-Jul-21 10:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 type these commands (and more if you want) [06-Jul-21 10:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 !join Antares !join Phobos !join Deimos !join Harmonia !join Nike !join Hermes [07-Jul-21 12:00 AM] figaro0714#0000 Anyone selling PT? [07-Jul-21 09:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 PT not available from BMP right now. Too busy with PE orders {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [08-Jul-21 09:20 AM] insensless72#0000 10 days away from having all the resources needed to start a base on Nike {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž (2) [16-Jul-21 06:57 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jul-21 06:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome our newest member @sempyrfi [16-Jul-21 06:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 He started out as a constructor on Phobos with a PP1 [16-Jul-21 07:00 PM] sempyrfi#0000 ๐Ÿค› ๐Ÿค› [16-Jul-21 07:32 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Jarhead. PP1 is a good move. In constructor on Deimos so lmk if you need tips or advise [16-Jul-21 07:50 PM] sempyrfi#0000 @insensless72 Thanks I appreciate it! [16-Jul-21 08:16 PM] figaro0714#0000 Welcome! [16-Jul-21 08:35 PM] sempyrfi#0000 @figaro0714 thanks ๐Ÿ˜Ž [17-Jul-21 05:02 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone My ship is officially headed to Nike to start my 2nd base! Which means I will start producing LST for the Corp very soon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) ๐Ÿ›ซ (2) ๐Ÿช (2) [17-Jul-21 10:04 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome @sempyrfi [18-Jul-21 09:39 AM] sempyrfi#0000 @megasaberexe Thanks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Jul-21 11:06 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 making that diagram of our production and locations {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Jul-21 07:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @sempyrfi re-linking this here in case you missed it: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP Go to #access-request channel in the above server type these commands (and more if you want) !join Antares !join Phobos !join Deimos !join Harmonia !join Nike !join Hermes [23-Jul-21 09:48 AM] kimmyjiko#0000 Anybody want coffee? [23-Jul-21 01:41 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Like coffee infusers? [23-Jul-21 01:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 MAT COF [23-Jul-21 01:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 to make your pioneers work harder [23-Jul-21 03:33 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I see, where are you @kimmyjiko? [23-Jul-21 03:33 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh wait i found you in the channels, harmonia i see. [23-Jul-21 03:38 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 Youโ€™re on Deimos? [23-Jul-21 05:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Yes [24-Jul-21 04:11 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 I can deliver to Deimos if youโ€™re interested in coffee [24-Jul-21 04:52 PM] megasaberexe#0000 How much per coffee? [24-Jul-21 10:42 PM] insensless72#0000 12hrs until LST production is up on Nike. My first batches are already claimed but as I produce more ill reach out to each planet to see how much is needed and where {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [25-Jul-21 11:50 AM] megasaberexe#0000 @insensless72 I have just bought the materials need for a HB1. You did say that you would provide a INC to me right? When will that be? [25-Jul-21 11:53 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Can i chip anything in for materials? [25-Jul-21 11:53 AM] insensless72#0000 Sure did, itll be a day or 2 [25-Jul-21 11:53 AM] insensless72#0000 I have the BSE and BBH ready for you but used the BDE and MCG on the Nike expansion. Let me get the BDE, BTA, and MCG and we'll be good to go [25-Jul-21 11:54 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Roger that, i guess i'll use my extra cash for supplies i need and savings [25-Jul-21 05:40 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Insensless, if you could also get 11 MCG i will pay for thoses at high price if need be. Need em for a FRM. [25-Jul-21 05:56 PM] insensless72#0000 I can get you 11 extra MCG [25-Jul-21 06:18 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Thanks Insensless, just give me a price and i'll pay it. [25-Jul-21 06:30 PM] insensless72#0000 55 C over time, that cool with you? [25-Jul-21 07:10 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Deal! I'll be ready and such [26-Jul-21 09:15 AM] kimmyjiko#0000 Iโ€™m thinking 350 within Corp [26-Jul-21 06:20 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Sounds good to me. When do you think you'll be by? [26-Jul-21 06:20 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Also how many? Also cool price! [27-Jul-21 08:46 AM] kimmyjiko#0000 I can do 10 in a few days to start, and then like 20 in like another week? [27-Jul-21 05:31 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I'll take 10, do you want me to setup a ad so when you get here you can just accept it? [27-Jul-21 05:32 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 You can wait a day or two for the ad [27-Jul-21 05:33 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay, i'll post it tomorrow. 10 COF @ 3500 AIC [27-Jul-21 05:35 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 Sounds good [27-Jul-21 05:40 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Roger that [29-Jul-21 08:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone updates on corporation strategy, structure, etc. coming tomorrow. Nice work getting all of these new buildings online, we now have 5/7 players with settler buildings and the ones not in settlers will be filling critical roles with pioneers ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Jul-21 04:40 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Alright everyone, thanks for the patience and again congratulations to you all on scaling up and finding your profit margins wherever they may be Now is a good time for us to look at our long term strategy and draw a cohesive plan for the whole corporation moving forward. Ill keep it short here and we can have extended discussion in the new strategy channel on this server. 1. It will be important to settle a cold nitrogen planet, either myself or @figaro0714 are best suited for this endeavor, but maybe @kimmyjiko is secretly loaded with cash. - Super long term I can see us moving into titanium, PP4, advanced metal manufacturing on Phobos/Deimos and feeding into the shipbuilding industry which is where all of the rich guys will be throwing money at us. 2. I want to continue to add corporation members, but it is getting a little difficult to coordinate everything on my own while still teaching new players. This leads me to point 3 3. I would like to open up some semi-formal positions within our ranks: - Logistics Coordinator - Public Relations Officer - Market Analyst These roles are voluntary, they would help us greatly, and come with the ability to make friends and influence people ๐Ÿ˜„ It will take a burden off of my shoulders and allow me to recruit more without fear of neglecting existing members. Open to suggestions here. 4. Ultimately I want us all to transition into settlers and technicians level buildings without sacrificing the bases of our supply chains (smelting, carbon, water, etc.) This will allow us to stay self sufficient and take more money in from the market than we are collectively putting out. It is not bad to spend money on the big market, but it is preferable to sell into it ๐Ÿ™‚ So, without further ado: - What do each of you want to do in game? - Any interest in those positions from point #3? - Anyone itching to get off of their starter planet? We can start making plans for this now. [30-Jul-21 04:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone ^^^^ [30-Jul-21 05:09 PM] sempyrfi#0000 @bitcoin_ape What would public relations involve? [30-Jul-21 06:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Effectively going on the UFO discord server and talking up new players, getting our name in politics channels for the planets we are on, offering to fill trade requests on behalf of the corp, etc. [30-Jul-21 06:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also maybe pumping our stock in the in game chat channels ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Jul-21 06:15 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I have a political favor from Slomo. If who ever becomes public relations. I can ask the favor be transfer to them. But Slomo won't do anything outrageous. [30-Jul-21 06:17 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Also I have work mon-fri so I can't really be on that much. I'm perfectly fine on being a pack mule for the group. I just want to see where we will be in the future. [30-Jul-21 06:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I also suffer from the mon-fri work disease [30-Jul-21 06:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Part of why I am looking to delegate this stuff out. Anyways, none of it is critical, we can go on as is, but it would make me more comfortable adding players {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Jul-21 06:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @megasaberexe it is quite interesting to have a favor from mr. Slomes [30-Jul-21 06:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Ask him to build you an incinerator? [30-Jul-21 06:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 He will be prying that conversation for information if I had to guess [30-Jul-21 06:39 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I don't think he would give me that much money. I think it could be a good idea to use the favor to maybe get into his circle of people and expand our economic partners. Also yea he would probably ask more about the INC. {Reactions} โญ [30-Jul-21 06:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Good idea. We will keep it. I know a decent amount about his circle of people but I have lost my insider [30-Jul-21 06:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It was Cyrius Patton of Tycho Manufacturing. Former Governor of phobos. He quit the game, and left the planet to his friend from ANTS which includes Slomes [30-Jul-21 06:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 They approached me to have us build the Phobos Chamber of Global Commerce (cogc) but I declined because I wanted us all to build the stuff we just built. [30-Jul-21 06:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Phobos and Deimos will want/need us to help build a cogc on both planets, Phobos first [31-Jul-21 10:38 AM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape what would logistics coordinator do? [31-Jul-21 10:55 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Basically we need to coordinate shipments in a few directions, and pack as many shipments into each cargo load as we can [31-Jul-21 10:56 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also make sure one person doesnt have to do an in-ordinate amount of flying [31-Jul-21 11:18 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also whenever we decide to do a large complicated trade with multiple ships or multiple stops, the logistics person would ideally have knowledge of where peoples ships and warehouses are located, and help facilitate the deal [31-Jul-21 11:39 AM] sempyrfi#0000 @everyoneSpeaking of logistics, after MANY days of back and forth with @bitcoin_ape I COLIQ'd and I've relocated to Harmonia. FRM and INC are set up and will have a RIG in 2-3 days. If anyone has 8 BSE I can buy at less than market prices that would be fantastic but if not no worries. I have a transport at ANT currently and will be headed back to Harmonia today๐Ÿ’ช {Reactions} ๐Ÿชด (2) ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) [01-Aug-21 08:44 AM] insensless72#0000 Everyone that needs LST to function take the time to look this over. I literally cannot transport LST off Nike fast enough. I produce 210 every 3 days. Only 183 fit onto a ship. Therefore, if you are someone know needs LST for your recipes I will suggest this:\ [01-Aug-21 08:45 AM] insensless72#0000 1: Contact me and I can ship the LST to you directly, or [01-Aug-21 08:46 AM] insensless72#0000 2: I can post ads on the Nike LM, which you can then accept and pick up woth your own ship. This this is the option you choose I would (or you could) figure out how much the fuel will cost for the round trip and cut it out of the total price [02-Aug-21 01:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I might have a manufacturing specialist joining on Phobos. He has 3 BMP [02-Aug-21 05:34 PM] megasaberexe#0000 3 BMP! Wow, how many days? [02-Aug-21 06:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 82 days old [02-Aug-21 06:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 by the way, to day is the 100th day of OOG {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (6) [02-Aug-21 06:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿ’ฏ [02-Aug-21 09:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 4 Resource Extraction experts now {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/871944303595900968/unknown.png?ex=6814d829&is=681386a9&hm=39aa0e517d2d9ee2ab92be6a0add6e419f523bc6f8833793e5bf9b90d32f54d1& [03-Aug-21 02:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The manufacturer I mentioned earlier will be joining soon. [03-Aug-21 03:13 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 Nice [03-Aug-21 04:26 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿญ ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿญ [03-Aug-21 04:30 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Sweet [03-Aug-21 05:17 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome @spatial_piano ! [03-Aug-21 05:23 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome @spatial_piano [03-Aug-21 07:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome @spatial_piano , happy to have you aboard. As you have seen in game chat, we dont enforce any prices but we tend to give casual discounts in corp. Insensless | Deimos Prefab has LST on Nike Jarhead | Valor Industries has C on Harmonia These might be useful trade considerations for your BMPs making MCG and PE. The LST is by the shipload with a discount if you pick it up or somehow arrange shipping [03-Aug-21 09:43 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Welcome aboard @spatial_piano! Glad to have you [04-Aug-21 11:55 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Thank you. [04-Aug-21 08:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano there is 10 COF for 3500 on Phobos if you want to buy it [04-Aug-21 11:15 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I got back from Hortus recently, so I'm good for a while. [04-Aug-21 11:20 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Does anyone need H by the way? I'm returning from KI-401d with 500. [05-Aug-21 01:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano I would like some Hydrogen! What are the price per unit? [05-Aug-21 01:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Alternatively, if you want to give me H I can repay you over a week or so in the form of PG, since I will only use the hydrogen to make PG and you asked about buying some [05-Aug-21 01:18 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Sounds good. I think 2H:13 PG is good ratio for trade. How much you need? [05-Aug-21 01:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thats fair. I will take as much as you are willing to give me. 2nd POL is coming online tomorrow and this would be a huge help [05-Aug-21 01:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I produce carbon vertically and Magnesium is very cheap, so this would streamline everything and leave me some cash to land this THF buy [05-Aug-21 01:21 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I think I'm fine selling half. I consume about 8 a day so 250 will last for a month for me [05-Aug-21 01:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Fan-damn-tastic [05-Aug-21 01:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 so that would translate to 1625 PG, ill call it 1700 to pay you for your troubles. It will take me some time to get all of that but I can pay in increments of 300 or something along those lines [05-Aug-21 01:25 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I need only about 60/day, so if we say 200 as soon as you can + 300 every 5 days times 5 [05-Aug-21 01:25 PM] spatial_piano#0000 You can pay faster of course [05-Aug-21 01:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have 200 now. Post a buy on phobos LM for 200 PG@1AIC [05-Aug-21 01:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will post a buy for 250 H@1AIC [05-Aug-21 01:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 and yea I will pay faster than that [05-Aug-21 01:27 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Right, I'll need about 2-3 days to bring the load. [05-Aug-21 01:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 No worries. you can still take the PG now and i will make my buy offer with a 5 day delivery {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Aug-21 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 posted [05-Aug-21 04:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @sempyrfi https://youtu.be/KV5QlSgq7lg {Embed} Bizonacci https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg ๏ผข๏ผฏ๏ผง๏ผง๏ผฅ๏ผค This is you. Donate: BTC: 17pq2BcAVbaeXQgpZJ9Brw7qGW5YGGQUT9 ERC20: 0x7175CE963017307f6e57cE89CDb29a761E25aBFF XMR: 83vDTyehsLQZHGcpr8mSs3dJBV5Xo7Ht919VHz31X1QE6oXh8MZePgT3sQznr9RNtKEZgtkJ34syZ https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Ydt3aKUSEkbrUzhJy7omEzmng1fwhCq5v2_eEOjBrV8/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/KV5QlSgq7lg/maxresdefault.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [05-Aug-21 04:36 PM] sempyrfi#0000 This. ^^ [05-Aug-21 05:46 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Rip ish [06-Aug-21 09:25 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I'm refunding the game. ๐Ÿคฎ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/873210235895054396/unknown.png?ex=6814d5e7&is=68138467&hm=2cf7bcd6e67166af260c1a86a0b18f03c0b3df9355155bf38bd383de285d8b26& [06-Aug-21 11:20 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Youll never make it without that 1 DW [06-Aug-21 11:20 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 sad day for OOG [06-Aug-21 02:07 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oof [06-Aug-21 04:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Absolute shit load of new players on Phobos. Check this out: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/873313659718357022/unknown.png?ex=68148d79&is=68133bf9&hm=7b77d9f67d90c72bb47afa42d40596b449235874fd49e6e2cf18c472dd6219ee& [06-Aug-21 04:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/873313799619375135/unknown.png?ex=68148d9b&is=68133c1b&hm=feffb799542e82e8bbc54f49727eecc78d8cc833ea602a1bc93b8719e45d67b5& [06-Aug-21 09:17 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Just a few [07-Aug-21 09:31 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Wow [07-Aug-21 01:30 PM] figaro0714#0000 Explains the rise in prefabs [07-Aug-21 01:30 PM] figaro0714#0000 ๐Ÿค‘ [07-Aug-21 09:11 PM] insensless72#0000 Did you guys notice there are 0 available plots left on Phobos? [07-Aug-21 09:11 PM] insensless72#0000 Almost seems fake [07-Aug-21 09:35 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Hmmmm [07-Aug-21 09:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Its true, I think Benten, Moria, Vallis, Promitor are also filling [07-Aug-21 09:41 PM] insensless72#0000 thats crazy [07-Aug-21 09:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Antares is popping. This is a big opportunity on the CX and local markets. Many of these new accounts will quit but all will buy tier one stuff which we are all producing [07-Aug-21 09:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Jarhead I know it seems like you made a mistake but this is going to be a universal boom in markets, including carbon so.. Sell while its hot {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ (2) [07-Aug-21 09:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Volume increasing, upward price pressure, price average 288 on the CX {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/873759433677766656/unknown.png?ex=6814db22&is=681389a2&hm=9a0db449da19bf3c846271edbca11f451b8944ade423b02ad91568fd13aa240e& [07-Aug-21 09:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Starter planets are maxing out on available plots all over the place [08-Aug-21 08:37 AM] megasaberexe#0000 The times are changing [08-Aug-21 10:34 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Is anybody else using FIO app BTW? [08-Aug-21 10:36 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I mean the one that sends your data to FIO. [08-Aug-21 10:51 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i just use planetsearch [08-Aug-21 10:51 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 on fio.fnar.net/planetsearch [08-Aug-21 10:52 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I use the REST API to store all my trades in my own database. [08-Aug-21 10:56 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I also did this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/873957819857109092/unknown.png?ex=6814eb25&is=681399a5&hm=c9695191c2227502aa2c1d81970846b1b618c04a0afdce352e8714bf5504f831& [08-Aug-21 10:56 AM] spatial_piano#0000 That's the curve for time since last repair VS buiding condition [08-Aug-21 10:57 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the game has an api? [08-Aug-21 10:57 AM] spatial_piano#0000 No, but FIO does [08-Aug-21 10:57 AM] spatial_piano#0000 FIO has a Chrome app that sends data to FIOs database, and you can access that through the API [08-Aug-21 10:57 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh. yeaaa i dont want to be in their database [08-Aug-21 10:57 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Fair enoughh [08-Aug-21 10:58 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i see the advantage, but also i am sketchy. i operate better if things are assumed about me vs. known [08-Aug-21 10:59 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 fio is like big government in this game -tinfoil hat- [08-Aug-21 10:59 AM] spatial_piano#0000 But what have you got to hide? Just trust big bro dude.. [08-Aug-21 11:00 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 excellent graph btw about the building condition [08-Aug-21 11:01 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 can you curve fit a negative exponential? or maybe inverse log [08-Aug-21 11:02 AM] spatial_piano#0000 It's the logistic function. [08-Aug-21 11:02 AM] spatial_piano#0000 P(X) = 1/(1+1/e^(kX+a)) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [08-Aug-21 11:04 AM] spatial_piano#0000 a is about 8 and k is about -0.069 [08-Aug-21 01:22 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Wouldn't be nice to have Zapaier integration? [08-Aug-21 01:24 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Never used Zapaier. [08-Aug-21 02:27 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Or Zapier ๐Ÿคช [08-Aug-21 07:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone What do you all think about adding new players from this surge of new accounts? [08-Aug-21 07:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Currently we are 8. It could be useful to add 2 more [08-Aug-21 08:02 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Is there such a thing as too many? [08-Aug-21 08:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Only if it becomes unorganized. 10 is manageable I think [08-Aug-21 08:14 PM] insensless72#0000 Could be useful but lets be specific about it based on corp needs [08-Aug-21 08:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think there is an opening for metallurgy on Deimos, and more Agriculture/Food [08-Aug-21 08:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Suggestions welcome. These will be low tech, new players most likely if we try to get any [08-Aug-21 09:06 PM] figaro0714#0000 Sounds like a good idea, I agree with Insensless [08-Aug-21 09:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will look around for a dedicated agriculture player, in that case. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Aug-21 05:34 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Are we going to create a corporate hierarchy or something lol [09-Aug-21 05:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It comes down to who is willing to do extra work, organizing information and staying on top of communications. [09-Aug-21 05:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think organically we organize pretty well without me needing to impose much structure. Im guessing this would break down around 10-15 members [10-Aug-21 02:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think the game servers are down [10-Aug-21 03:00 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Yeah. They were down for a while a couple hours ago as well [10-Aug-21 03:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wish these noobs would dump their starting cash and delete already :/ [10-Aug-21 03:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I mean.. I wish the devs would get better servers. yea thats what i meant. [10-Aug-21 05:46 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Lolz, it would actually be cool to have more solid players. It would help progress the universe quicker or dare i say a more prosperous universe......? {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅ [10-Aug-21 07:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea it will definitely progress the game even if only 10% of them stick around [10-Aug-21 07:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ManoftheSea just told me that he has an AML and Piboy has one too. [10-Aug-21 08:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 So that is the highest tech building on Phobos and in Antares space right now [10-Aug-21 08:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I also learned that Piboy is about to take a cold BER planet which unlocks TSH for high temperature worlds and unlocks some FTL ship building technology [10-Aug-21 08:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Im considering some cold planets for my 2nd base, including: ``` QJ-382g..... Ammonia + Hydrogen KI-401b..... FEO, TIO, LIO, ZIR ZV-639d..... Nitrogen ``` [10-Aug-21 08:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 QJ is a fuel planet, KI gives us easy access to steel and titanium stuff, ZV allows nutrient solution which will turn @kimmyjiko into an in-game starbucks [10-Aug-21 08:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone read the above for some info about where the game is going [10-Aug-21 09:17 PM] insensless72#0000 Im thinking KI to fuel further expansion for Corp members [10-Aug-21 09:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I am also leaning towards KI, it gives us pathways into high tech industries, and would allow us to run titanium and steel through all of our smelters. I think we have 7-8 SME at this point which could lead into 1-2 ASM in corp [10-Aug-21 09:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The nitrogen would be profitable and coffee is great โ˜• but would not unlock any technology chains in corp. The ammonia and hydrogen would probably be the most profitable, and ammonia unlocks some tech for us including fermentation, slow fuel refining, and some chemistry. [11-Aug-21 09:03 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Base in KI would also allow for getting cheap H from 401d LM and ship it with metal or ores. You can get 193H and 307 TIO in one ship. [11-Aug-21 11:10 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 that is an excellent point @spatial_piano the proximity to the hydrogen planet had not even occurred to me [14-Aug-21 04:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @here I have begun talking to `Alucard998 | LNG Inc` about joining OOG. He is an ALO/AL producer on Deimos and also has a base on Hermes and does fuel refining. [14-Aug-21 04:36 PM] sempyrfi#0000 That's sexy {Reactions} ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ (2) [14-Aug-21 04:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 No commitments yet. I am going to make a bulk AL/ALO buy on Deimos for the return trip after delivering some stuff to Insensless + Mega [14-Aug-21 04:37 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Quality recruits over quantity. Smart [14-Aug-21 04:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also still on the lookout for an Agriculture/Food specialist. @sempyrfi have you seen or heard from any new players on Harmonia? [14-Aug-21 04:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There could be a few worthwhile recruits even though they have new accounts [14-Aug-21 04:38 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I havent but I can put some feelers out tho [14-Aug-21 04:39 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I have 2 FRMS and will have 3 in a week or so [14-Aug-21 04:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thats great ๐Ÿชด ๐Ÿชด ๐Ÿชด [14-Aug-21 04:42 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I could keep moving in that direction seeing as Ill have the experts for it [14-Aug-21 04:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We are all growing quite well. [14-Aug-21 04:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea, if you want to move away from Carbon and into Agriculture primarily then it would be good to recruit a carbon specialist [14-Aug-21 04:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There is room for more than one. Our demand for food and carbon is only increasing [14-Aug-21 04:43 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Not sure if I want to move away from Carbon. FRMs are just a natural progression I guess [14-Aug-21 04:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 On harmonia especially it is easy to run a large vertical carbon setup. The distinction is how much of your resources are going to FRMs and their operation vs. INC and their operations, and also which experts you prioritize when you have more than 6 total [14-Aug-21 04:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Really hard for you to go wrong either way, but im trying to figure out specifically who to recruit [14-Aug-21 05:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Nice, I don't think we have a ALO or Fuel person right. Has he talk about his prices? [14-Aug-21 05:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 quote from him: โ€œWell, with the currently swelled market on pretty much everything, I've been using a rate of 315 or so. MotS and I used a lower rate, but it was reflected in the price of bfabs I was getting back, and we worked largely on accounted bartering. I'm filling my deimos base in the morning, so not looking for additional bfabs at the moment, but I'm comfortable saying 300 for the time being, if buying a good quantity. My supply is spoken for for the next 3 days or soโ€ [14-Aug-21 05:18 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I see, thats pretty good. [14-Aug-21 05:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh the above is for AL specifically. We could probably get him down to 280 with a large order, depending on markets. [14-Aug-21 05:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @figaro0714 if you want some AL from Deimos you can get in on this bulk order. Also I have your 10500 for Argon [14-Aug-21 06:08 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape I'm good on AL for a while. We can incorporate the 10500 into the price of the INS once u buy all 1200. Unless u want to do it this way, but I'm not in need of any cash rn. [14-Aug-21 06:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thats fine, if you prefer it in cash at the INS trade I will hold on to it. [14-Aug-21 06:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I dont currently have plans for another Deimos trip after this so it could be a while before there is another bulk AL buy [14-Aug-21 06:16 PM] figaro0714#0000 I still got a week of ALO to smelt so I'll be good [15-Aug-21 03:01 PM] figaro0714#0000 On Basic can i still accept shipping contracts? [15-Aug-21 03:11 PM] spatial_piano#0000 yes. https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/pro-license/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/pro-license/ PRO License :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [18-Aug-21 10:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone I am interested in inviting an Agriculture/Carbon player on Phobos. They are a new account with 1 RIG, 2 FRM, 1 INC and more INC on the way. [18-Aug-21 10:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The player is `USR ColonelError` in game. [19-Aug-21 05:35 PM] megasaberexe#0000 When will they be joining the discord? [19-Aug-21 06:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Good question. Im actually trying to decide now between 2 similar players on Phobos. Part of me wants to accept them both but I think I would prefer to take the best ๐Ÿ˜ˆ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [19-Aug-21 11:37 PM] colerror#0000 Joined the server. [19-Aug-21 11:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome ColonelError [19-Aug-21 11:38 PM] colerror#0000 Hello [19-Aug-21 11:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ColErr has a vertical RIG->FRM->INC base on Phobos. There are 3 of us on Phobos who buy carbon, and Markymark and Earthling may be interested in buying RCO if you have excess agriculture capacity [19-Aug-21 11:42 PM] figaro0714#0000 Welcome! [19-Aug-21 11:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also Figaro buys carbon on Phobos ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Aug-21 11:45 PM] figaro0714#0000 True, 21 per week [19-Aug-21 11:45 PM] colerror#0000 I've currently got 60 C available [19-Aug-21 11:45 PM] colerror#0000 Making about 5/day right now, I'm about 2 weeks in so still working on capital to get some more going [19-Aug-21 11:46 PM] figaro0714#0000 Np, I'll be good for 4 more days but I'll let u know when i need some. [19-Aug-21 11:46 PM] figaro0714#0000 Also i make prefabs, lmk if u need any [19-Aug-21 11:47 PM] colerror#0000 Definitely will, I'm still only at 170 workers, so I'll be building just as soon as I can afford it [19-Aug-21 11:49 PM] colerror#0000 If anyone needs Carbon, let me know somewhat soon, I need to post it up otherwise to afford some RAT [19-Aug-21 11:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 You should take advantage of high prices outside of the corp. You could sell on the LM at 300+ per carbon [19-Aug-21 11:50 PM] figaro0714#0000 True, I'm heading to CX rn if u want me to ship it [19-Aug-21 11:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea on the big exchange its going closer to 320 each [19-Aug-21 11:51 PM] colerror#0000 I'm already here ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Aug-21 11:52 PM] colerror#0000 Sent it this morning, didn't know when I'd get the invite [19-Aug-21 11:53 PM] figaro0714#0000 Oh, well they'll sell no problem [19-Aug-21 11:53 PM] figaro0714#0000 If ur in urgent need I'm willing to buy all 60 at a discount. [19-Aug-21 11:54 PM] colerror#0000 Not too urgent, I'm 3 days from out of RAT [19-Aug-21 11:55 PM] figaro0714#0000 Then it's probably just better to wait and see if sells on CX [19-Aug-21 11:59 PM] colerror#0000 Yea, posted it up at 310. Price has dropped on it this week, but that's still not bad [20-Aug-21 06:40 AM] insensless72#0000 Glad to have you @colerror [20-Aug-21 11:08 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Alright @everyone corp weekend update coming up when i finish work today. stay tuned [20-Aug-21 11:32 AM] sempyrfi#0000 @colerror Welcome aboard! [20-Aug-21 01:33 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @colerror Welcome. I currently run my PE production on my own INC, but I'm expanding soon, so I may start buying extra. [20-Aug-21 01:35 PM] colerror#0000 Yea. Just sold what I had, but picked up some PWO so production should be a bit better. Looks like I need a fair bit of money before I can scale too much more, but working on it [20-Aug-21 01:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It accelerates as you add more production buildings. I think you are in a good spot considering your account age [20-Aug-21 01:38 PM] colerror#0000 Yea, 12k in cash after this CX trip, and shouldn't need consumables for a couple weeks. Looking like my shopping list is about 60k at market rate to double production [20-Aug-21 01:39 PM] spatial_piano#0000 When you need more PWO, OVE or MCG I can sell at discount. [20-Aug-21 01:39 PM] colerror#0000 Nice, I'll let you know [20-Aug-21 01:40 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I expect prefab prices to fall over the next 2 weeks. [20-Aug-21 01:40 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Carbon better go up soon too [20-Aug-21 01:40 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Its already up ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Aug-21 01:41 PM] colerror#0000 It's dropped [20-Aug-21 01:41 PM] colerror#0000 Doesn't seem like there's a ton of demand right now [20-Aug-21 01:41 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Nooooooooooooo [20-Aug-21 01:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Before this rush of new players carbon was mostly stable between 240 and 280 on the CX [20-Aug-21 01:41 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Im in a bidding war for pennies rn ๐Ÿ™„ [20-Aug-21 01:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but BFABs were also much lower in cost, so it was not so bad [20-Aug-21 01:42 PM] colerror#0000 Ah, I joined with the rush, so I've been seeing 300 regularly [20-Aug-21 01:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Carbon demand trails prefab* demand, since it is needed to make plastics and metals which are then processed into prefabs* [20-Aug-21 01:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If prefab prices/demand spike, then everyone collectively burns up the carbon supply in order to fill prefab demand, and you end up with downstream carbon price spikes since there is less carbon available across the board [20-Aug-21 01:44 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Yup [20-Aug-21 01:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 same thing works in reverse [20-Aug-21 01:44 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I don't have to like it tho [20-Aug-21 01:44 PM] colerror#0000 lol [20-Aug-21 01:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 You can voice your protest by posting salty LM sell offers for carbon @ 500 each [20-Aug-21 01:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 20 day visibility is best [20-Aug-21 01:46 PM] sempyrfi#0000 At a $55 tax per post that's too rich for me. I don't have @bitcoin_ape money ๐Ÿ˜‹ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ [20-Aug-21 01:48 PM] sempyrfi#0000 My production screen looks much better on a 27" monitor tho I must say [20-Aug-21 01:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 how much AIC for a big monitor like that? [20-Aug-21 01:50 PM] sempyrfi#0000 1 C [20-Aug-21 01:58 PM] colerror#0000 Ay, not bad for day 14, I don't think {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/878352359988805692/unknown.png?ex=681515e1&is=6813c461&hm=ec3b432a400c5fe4fbf971591c1c5cfe937ce5ce7dd5a7618e80ce8354ef590e& [20-Aug-21 02:06 PM] spatial_piano#0000 That's pretty good. I'm so tempted to post my last weeks income statement. MCG price was through the roof and I made my best result ever. [20-Aug-21 02:59 PM] insensless72#0000 Bought 30C from you off market Jarhead, take my 9k ๐Ÿ’ธ ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Aug-21 03:24 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @spatial_piano Marky I need 30 PWO, I'm willing to pay 7500 for the PWO and shipping. Will that be enough? [20-Aug-21 03:26 PM] spatial_piano#0000 To Deimos? [20-Aug-21 03:27 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Yes [20-Aug-21 03:28 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wait your on phobos right, I'm about to land on phobos to fullfill a contract with earthling. Maybe you don't need to ship it to me and i can just land and pay and pick it up. [20-Aug-21 03:29 PM] spatial_piano#0000 That sounds good to me. I got 60 I can sell right now. Do you need anything else [20-Aug-21 03:31 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I plan on getting my COF from tadabe, so i should be good. Thanks for the offer thou. Will 6300 be enough for 30 PWO, the lowest on the market is 200 but I'm willing to pay 210 for each. [20-Aug-21 03:34 PM] spatial_piano#0000 The LM price on Phobos is 150 currently, I wouldn't feel right taking more than that. [20-Aug-21 03:37 PM] megasaberexe#0000 So 4500 for 30 PWO, really? Wow that would be great. It's a deal. [20-Aug-21 03:37 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Can you setup a ad? [20-Aug-21 03:38 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Or i can if need be [20-Aug-21 03:38 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I'll set it up. [20-Aug-21 03:39 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay, I'll wait on the LM page [20-Aug-21 03:39 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Posted [20-Aug-21 03:41 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Just accepted, be there in like 15-17 hours or something. Nice doing business with you. ๐Ÿค [20-Aug-21 03:42 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Do you bring anything to sale or are you just dropping stuff for Earthling? [20-Aug-21 03:43 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Well I had NUTs but just traded those in at the station and C for earthling. [20-Aug-21 03:45 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Ok. I'm just in need of a food stockup within a week, and was wondering if you'd happen to have any. [20-Aug-21 03:46 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I have a FP, but right now talking to Insensless to see if I can help them with their huge supply drain. If they are good and don't need my help then I can switch over to you. [20-Aug-21 03:46 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I have 30 C left for sale on CX if anyone wants it ๐Ÿ˜Ž [20-Aug-21 03:48 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wait Jarhead, what is your in game company name again? [20-Aug-21 03:49 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Valor Industries [20-Aug-21 03:50 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh i see it now, I'm delivering C to earthling. I think you can reach them through DLR. But have you talk to earthling to see if you could supply them with that C? [20-Aug-21 03:50 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Your even selling it at a really low price [20-Aug-21 03:51 PM] sempyrfi#0000 I bother @bitcoin_ape more than he probably likes ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Aug-21 03:58 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Lolz me too [20-Aug-21 08:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 OK @everyone, here is the update (wall of text sorry): Earthling and I have the mats to make 1 core module each MCG and SEA (Sealant) for 1 normal base and 1 low-pressure base. @figaro0714 will have 1200 INS to sell me in about 1 week(?) which allows for a single cold low+pressure base and a standard one. Im thinking I should take KI-401d and Earthling will settle Harmonia for vertical food industries. After I get an extractor up on this planet I will build more POL on phobos. This base will primarily get TIO and FEO to make Titanium, Steel and Ferro Titanium. First sales go to corporate smelters, and we will have cheap steel on Phobos for BMPs and Figaros PP3. I think there is a good opportunity for a corporation member to settle on QJ-382c (cold gas planet) since we now have the technology in corp. It would require the base-builder to pay the cost in AIC of the core module + INS + AEF. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [20-Aug-21 08:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If anyone can afford the expense within about ~2-3 weeks time frame, we should talk about getting a core module in production for you because it is a slow process. Next.. we should all remember to check the Chamber of Commerce on your planet, and we can look at throwing our weight around a little with coordinated voting there and in planet elections. Open for discussion! Last item... I am still looking for a logistics coordinator in corp. Totally optional im not sure how hard it would be, but you would probably get even more free shipping. [20-Aug-21 08:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We can move some discussions to other channels to avoid flooding general more than I just did. [28-Aug-21 02:27 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Got my 4th expert today. Feelsgoodman. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/881258674931257436/unknown.png?ex=68151c99&is=6813cb19&hm=9564df289318601c63d1534db8efa1d91944263ccafd40a815bf1dcb7a84bb00& {Reactions} ๐Ÿญ (3) ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) [29-Aug-21 10:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 15 minutes to KI-401b [29-Aug-21 10:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/881747639736082482/unknown.png?ex=6814e9bb&is=6813983b&hm=20f7541cd7e8bedb68f9949f2654a2b980a53f2f9eb36d82ea573521f091224b& [29-Aug-21 10:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thats just over 16 TIO per day on one extractor. Enough for making 8 TI after smelting. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) ๐Ÿชจ (2) [31-Aug-21 03:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone We could be in the middle of another new player rush [31-Aug-21 03:54 PM] colerror#0000 Hmm. Well, I'm glad I just finished buying almost 3 weeks worth of consumables ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Aug-21 03:54 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Make sure to get some max price sell offers up on the CX, these guys will buy standard materials at basically any price [31-Aug-21 03:54 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 And yea consumables markets have the potential to be even more fucked up than they already are [31-Aug-21 03:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 pardon my french [31-Aug-21 04:00 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Based on the pop report? [31-Aug-21 04:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Pioneer pop report would show this but I was just going off of planet and global chat [31-Aug-21 04:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 whenever there is a new player it says something like: `noob1 has joined the chat.` [31-Aug-21 04:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also pop report would be delayed by a few days since they only come out weekly [31-Aug-21 04:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/882376325791371284/unknown.png?ex=6814903d&is=68133ebd&hm=b364ed73b6bfc22f9ad83493630bc4667f449772e58faa4bbc0f80cee1e6c63a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [31-Aug-21 05:32 PM] colerror#0000 Yea, looks like there was another ad from a larger YTuber [31-Aug-21 05:38 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Coolz [31-Aug-21 08:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone reminder to check your production building conditions if your account is more than 2 months old. [31-Aug-21 08:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ ๐Ÿงฐ [31-Aug-21 09:28 PM] colerror#0000 Phobos went from 78 open plots earlier today, to 37 right now [31-Aug-21 09:35 PM] colerror#0000 Also, now low on cash while I wait on this MCG order to fulfill, because they were selling at 20/ea and current bid is almost 22 [31-Aug-21 11:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I expect that will only get worse with the new player rush. MCG is one of those items that they all buy right away [31-Aug-21 11:03 PM] colerror#0000 Yea. I noticed a player with a 3 hour old corp asking, and I remembered seeing an order on the LM {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ [01-Sep-21 12:01 AM] colerror#0000 Now, do I sell, or do I hold it for the construction I have planned... [01-Sep-21 12:22 AM] colerror#0000 Currently 11 BBH from doubling Production, but also _real_ short on cash for now [01-Sep-21 12:29 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 being short on cash is okay as long as your production is paid for about 5-7 days [01-Sep-21 12:35 AM] colerror#0000 I've got consumables for about 21 days, and should have enough cash to cover production, etc for at least a week [01-Sep-21 10:48 AM] spatial_piano#0000 @colerror if you still need MCG, I can sell at 17.5 in-corp. [01-Sep-21 10:50 AM] colerror#0000 I'm good for now. I'll need BBH, but it will be a bit before I can afford it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Sep-21 05:42 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape Wait what should i do? Shouldn't we just let them get to a point where we just replace the buildings? Isn't repairing pointless? [01-Sep-21 05:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 repairing is necessary because your efficiency will drop to 30% otherwise [01-Sep-21 05:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you let it happen your output will become extremely slow, and you will have to feed your workers the same amount. It is worth spending the money on repair bfabs in order to save the time and consumables [01-Sep-21 05:59 PM] insensless72#0000 @megasaberexe If you need to repair I could easily get bfabs to Deimos. I dont let my buildings go below 80% before I repair [01-Sep-21 06:05 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I see, all my buildings are around 90% but I'll keep your offer in mind. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Sep-21 06:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 90% is fine. Try to repair at 81 days old (building age) [01-Sep-21 06:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 definitely repair by day 99. Trust me you dont want to deal with it past 100 days. [02-Sep-21 05:51 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @insensless72 My Rig and 2 FRM are about 95 days. Just repaired my Rig, I now need 57 MCG and 4 BBH for my 2 FRM. 1254 For 57 MCG and 7600 for the 4 BBH, in total 8854. If there is also a shipping price, just tell me. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Sep-21 06:11 PM] insensless72#0000 Itll be there tomorrow. When I leave the CX ill give you an exact time {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Sep-21 08:17 PM] insensless72#0000 @megasaberexe Ship will be there in 14hrs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Sep-21 03:41 AM] spatial_piano#0000 @figaro0714 @insensless72 I have a big list of fabs I want to buy. ```4 BBH 34 BSE 4 LSE 6 TRU ``` [05-Sep-21 03:42 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Does anyone have a WEL in the corp? if not I'll just get the TRU off market. [05-Sep-21 09:51 AM] insensless72#0000 @spatial_piano Sounds good I'll start cooking [05-Sep-21 10:07 AM] insensless72#0000 LSE might be expensive.. even with a Corp discount [05-Sep-21 11:30 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano no welder in corp, if anyone is in a position to make one it is insensless [05-Sep-21 11:57 AM] figaro0714#0000 @spatial_piano my pp2s are busy with ur AEFs so i dont think I'll be able to start making those fabs for a few days. [05-Sep-21 11:57 AM] figaro0714#0000 @insensless72 will u be producing all those fabs? [05-Sep-21 12:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think earthling will build 4 LSE once I produce the 480 PG. [05-Sep-21 12:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I just sold mark some 400 PG. What is that going into? [05-Sep-21 12:04 PM] insensless72#0000 @figaro0714 I can make the BSE and BBH really cheap. The LSE would be a problem with no local source of cheap PG [05-Sep-21 12:05 PM] insensless72#0000 Im pushing 10 BSE and 10 BBH every day + 10 hrs [05-Sep-21 12:05 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Earthling is making me BDE, BTA, LTA and LDE. He didn't say anything about LSE. [05-Sep-21 12:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh I see. Sorry im messing this up. I now realize it makes more sense for @figaro0714 to make the LSE since Earthling is already doing the rest of that [05-Sep-21 12:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 So in that case the next 480 PG would go to figaro to make LSE and I will worry about paying Earthling back later. [05-Sep-21 12:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐ŸŽข [05-Sep-21 12:11 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Yeah, I probably should have mentioned earlier that earthling was already working on these. [05-Sep-21 02:35 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Anyway, the contracts with earthling are now made, and he'll have the last things ready in 2-3 days. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [09-Sep-21 06:41 AM] insensless72#0000 One of the changes in this new update is that you can post ads on planets that you have warehouses on, without needing a base [09-Sep-21 11:17 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh for real? Thats huge [09-Sep-21 01:02 PM] sempyrfi#0000 Yep that's huge! I was about to post a screenshot [09-Sep-21 01:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This will really help us capitalize on our planet-to-planet logistics [12-Sep-21 03:47 AM] spatial_piano#0000 ๐Ÿ“ˆ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/886533480639500319/unknown.png?ex=681486a4&is=68133524&hm=5fd1bfb86a677174fd77aa213e9a1ba98f32516ca2edf330f6a85ab3f16c2174& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ [13-Sep-21 02:48 PM] colerror#0000 So what sort of price can I get for 11 BBH? [13-Sep-21 02:49 PM] colerror#0000 To buy, that is [13-Sep-21 02:50 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @insensless72 โฌ†๏ธ [13-Sep-21 02:59 PM] insensless72#0000 I'm selling BBH @1200 corp price [13-Sep-21 03:00 PM] colerror#0000 Wow, if I can put an order in for 11, that would be great [13-Sep-21 03:01 PM] insensless72#0000 You got it. There are several people ahead of you but I'll let you know when it's close to being ready [13-Sep-21 03:01 PM] colerror#0000 Yea, no worries [14-Sep-21 11:58 AM] spatial_piano#0000 LNG was buying Kevlar today. I wonder what he's doing with those. RDEs? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/887381762290884608/unknown.png?ex=6814f9aa&is=6813a82a&hm=e059117bfa5c514cb428160dfce5ce44990752c46ce2135346659be8571726aa& [14-Sep-21 11:59 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Seems to be a private deal since nobody on their right mind would sell kevlar for 3k in this economy. [14-Sep-21 12:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 in this economy?! [14-Sep-21 12:14 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Well the PG alone is gonna run you for 2k, and I don't think you can get TCL for under 200. [14-Sep-21 02:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano Larsaal is a generalist, theres really no way to guess what he is doing with RDE [14-Sep-21 02:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oooooH LNG is alucard [14-Sep-21 02:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 He has ABH too. I saw him buy NR about 10 days ago [14-Sep-21 02:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Here all the information I got out of him [14-Sep-21 02:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ```mememan โ€” 09/02/2021 Are you building an AML? Alucard998 โ€” 09/02/2021 manofthesea has one mememan โ€” 09/02/2021 I thought you were making ABH for another. I suppose there are other uses for ABH though :) Alucard998 โ€” 09/02/2021 :zipper_mouth: ``` [14-Sep-21 02:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 So he doesnt *deny* building an AML, but implies he is not. [14-Sep-21 02:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Other than that, the only options would be Appliances Factory APF , or Advanced Appliances Factory AAF [14-Sep-21 02:18 PM] spatial_piano#0000 AML would need the 6 Kevlar for ADE [14-Sep-21 02:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Exactly. But so would the others [14-Sep-21 02:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 AML makes more sense than the factories [14-Sep-21 02:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 APF would unlock some planetary infrastructure and PDAs for engineers. Very tight market though unless he has a buyer in ANTs for something specific [14-Sep-21 02:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 read the above. This is our latest corporate scouting info ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ [14-Sep-21 02:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Required reading, I might add. I will be grading your essay responses on a 10-point scale. [14-Sep-21 05:03 PM] insensless72#0000 If theyre getting into afabs theyre close to shipyards {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡ซ [14-Sep-21 07:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think the best building to make with afabs (at first) is AML and ORC [14-Sep-21 07:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have the only shipyard in the whole game right next to phobos. It was included free at the start of the current game world. Anyone can use it if they land on that planet with shipbuilding materials [15-Sep-21 11:18 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Heads up, PE price is starting to climb. Slomes bought at least 9k PE from PHO LM two days ago. I produce currently about 800/day so if you need some ping me. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (2) [16-Sep-21 07:13 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @spatial_piano Do you have any PWO for sell? [17-Sep-21 04:12 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Yes. I can sell 90@135/u [17-Sep-21 05:24 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wow only 135! I'll take 30. Can you post a ad? [17-Sep-21 05:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 mega are you flying to phobos? [17-Sep-21 05:25 PM] megasaberexe#0000 No, i only go to CX to deimos and vice versa [17-Sep-21 05:28 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I can post on Phobos, but how should I get the stuff to you? [17-Sep-21 05:30 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I'm going to CX tomorrow if you need it hauled as well [17-Sep-21 05:31 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Hmmmm, i'll just send a ship to phobos. [17-Sep-21 05:32 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Ok. how much time do you need for pickup? [17-Sep-21 05:33 PM] megasaberexe#0000 30 PWO, and do you make COF? [17-Sep-21 05:33 PM] spatial_piano#0000 No I don't make COF. [17-Sep-21 05:33 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay then I'll just get the PWO [17-Sep-21 05:34 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Do you sell any DW or RAT BTW? [17-Sep-21 05:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @megasaberexe if you are coming to phobos I might like to ship some aluminum from deimos [17-Sep-21 05:35 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I do have like 60 extra DW and RAT in storage but the supplies are for insensless. Have you tried talking to earthling? I heard he is producing DW and RAT on a larger scale then me. [17-Sep-21 05:36 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape I haven't got a SME yet, so is someone giving them to me or something? [17-Sep-21 05:39 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Ah, no sellers lined up. dont worry about it this time [17-Sep-21 05:39 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @megasaberexe Are you ready to pick the ad up? [17-Sep-21 05:40 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Yes [17-Sep-21 05:40 PM] spatial_piano#0000 up [17-Sep-21 05:41 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Done [17-Sep-21 05:43 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape On deimos LM there is a person selling 100 AL ore for 11000 which is about 105 per ore. I could buy that and deliver it. The company name is Swift Mining Group, the corps name is FIO Corp - Antares, their code is SMG. They are also online [17-Sep-21 05:50 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape should i buy? [17-Sep-21 05:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 nah its too expensive [17-Sep-21 05:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i thought about it but i think 110 each is a bad price [17-Sep-21 05:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i have a ship on deimos so its cool. make your moves while I wait for a better price ๐Ÿ™‚ [17-Sep-21 05:53 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Roger that [19-Sep-21 01:37 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Well the mystery of alucards Kevlar purchases just solved. He dropped a whole library on Phobos. [19-Sep-21 02:48 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wow so that is what around 200 days players can do. [19-Sep-21 02:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes, but alucard does financing with ANTS members. he got some of the hard materials on a loan of some sort [19-Sep-21 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have no idea what the debt agreement looks like, but we saw him getting the KV, TCL acid, etc. for 1 AIC on the phobos markets [19-Sep-21 05:36 PM] kimmyjiko#0000 Hey all sorry Iโ€™ve been MIA - Iโ€™ve on the other side of the world again for business and havenโ€™t had the chance to really stay on top of things [19-Sep-21 05:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 no worries, i hope your buildings have been running in the mean time! [20-Sep-21 06:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 It's all good ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Sep-21 06:33 PM] insensless72#0000 Is anyone going to need LDEs soon? Im sitting on a few and wanted to offer them to corp first [21-Sep-21 11:07 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I need one LDE for repairs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Sep-21 07:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will need LDE to make HB3 and LAB, I think those are my next buildings on phobos [21-Sep-21 07:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 especially LAB, 12 LDE [28-Sep-21 05:52 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape I had contacted a player like 3 months ago and they replied to me name: krazykarl company name: Krazy Eats 158 days Are we interested in them that could allow them to join us? They aren't in a corps yet. [28-Sep-21 05:52 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I think they make RATs [28-Sep-21 05:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Possibly, what planet are they on? [28-Sep-21 05:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 karl like marx haha [28-Sep-21 05:53 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Not sure, one sec [28-Sep-21 05:54 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also we would want to know how many production buildings he has. For example if its RAT how many farms and FPs? [28-Sep-21 05:55 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Can't find him, and don't really remember how i found him too. But i will go and ask him those questions [28-Sep-21 05:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea. Rations could be nice but we need to make sure they are in our local area [28-Sep-21 05:58 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Right right, okay just sent them those msgs. Right now they are offline so I'll probably get a reply from them tomorrow hopefully [30-Sep-21 09:11 PM] megasaberexe#0000 hasn't replied yet [30-Sep-21 09:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 dont worry about it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [05-Oct-21 06:07 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @spatial_piano I need 100 MCG, what were your prices again? [06-Oct-21 12:13 PM] spatial_piano#0000 100@1750 if you post [06-Oct-21 06:21 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @spatial_piano I see, then can you hold until Friday? I'll be off on that day and can actually call my bank to do a international purchase for PRO [07-Oct-21 01:33 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @megasaberexe i can also post if we happen to be on at the same time, but the timing is a bit hard [07-Oct-21 06:05 PM] insensless72#0000 @spatial_piano Ill also be in the market for MCG. I can buy Mega's MCG and hold it for better timing [08-Oct-21 11:04 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay that sounds good, since tadabe is busy does anyone have COF to sell? [09-Oct-21 12:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @megasaberexe coffee is short until tadabe gets his HYF running or until earthling can make an excess from 1 HYF [09-Oct-21 12:58 PM] insensless72#0000 Im going to work on expanding into an HYF on Harmonia as well [09-Oct-21 01:04 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I see, there is a seller on the market but they are from another faction and kinda expensive. [09-Oct-21 01:58 PM] colerror#0000 Looking at building a CHP and HB2, anyone have materials handy for sale, or should I try my luck on the market? [09-Oct-21 02:15 PM] insensless72#0000 I have fabs for you but theyre not local [09-Oct-21 02:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 between Earthling and Figaro and MCG from mark, I think it could be built pretty quickly [09-Oct-21 02:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @figaro0714 would you be able to sell 5 BSE and 5 BBH on phobos? [09-Oct-21 02:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think I can convince earthling to sell 5 BDE and 2 BTA. I have the Truss currently on phobos [09-Oct-21 02:29 PM] colerror#0000 Actually just bought it all in the market. Not much EXO or PT on the market though [09-Oct-21 02:30 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I just bought AL and STL so I can make some if you need. [09-Oct-21 02:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lol nice. Earthling has a few but mark probably can produce very fast [09-Oct-21 02:31 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling can sell 10 of each [09-Oct-21 02:36 PM] colerror#0000 Ok, that should be fine to get started. [09-Oct-21 02:36 PM] spatial_piano#0000 They're on ANT still, so it might take until monday, but I have excess PT i can sell. I don't have that many EXO, but I can spare 5. [09-Oct-21 02:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wow PT situation is ugly [09-Oct-21 02:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 price avg 599 but none have sold since monday [09-Oct-21 02:49 PM] insensless72#0000 I could put down a BMP temporarily and start making PT from the STL I have [09-Oct-21 02:50 PM] colerror#0000 I'm on ANT. If you want me to ship anything, I was gonna head out shortly [09-Oct-21 02:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 I would say charge people an arm and a leg for stl because they all want to sell PT at 600+ [09-Oct-21 02:52 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @colerror How much free tonnage do you have? [09-Oct-21 02:53 PM] colerror#0000 350 [09-Oct-21 02:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @colerror how do these prices sound? 10 PT @4500aic and 10 EXO @1200aic [09-Oct-21 02:56 PM] colerror#0000 Sounds fine. I don't have a lot of raw materials to start, need to get a ship full of carbon to the CX, so I just need enough to get started [09-Oct-21 02:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 phobos LM ads coming up [09-Oct-21 03:00 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @colerror I'll put the shipping contracts up as well. total will be about 130t [09-Oct-21 03:00 PM] colerror#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Oct-21 03:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 pt posted [09-Oct-21 03:02 PM] colerror#0000 Thanks. As soon as I grab the shipping, I'll head back. Grabbed some mats to make NS for a couple days [09-Oct-21 03:03 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Actually I'll put up 1 more [09-Oct-21 03:04 PM] spatial_piano#0000 total is about 170t now [09-Oct-21 03:06 PM] colerror#0000 Just the 4, correct? [09-Oct-21 03:06 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape yup that'll be no problem [09-Oct-21 03:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think colerr decided to buy all the bfabs on ANT [09-Oct-21 03:07 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I put up 3, that other ad was someone else. [09-Oct-21 03:07 PM] colerror#0000 Ok, ok [09-Oct-21 03:09 PM] colerror#0000 Selvatys, didn't realize it was a 1 day either [09-Oct-21 03:09 PM] colerror#0000 I'll be fine, should probably check these things first ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Oct-21 03:10 PM] spatial_piano#0000 The reverse trip seems to be short right now, but I don't know how long it is ANT->PHO. [10-Oct-21 12:28 PM] colerror#0000 CHP up and running, currently working on NS {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [10-Oct-21 02:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Excellent! [10-Oct-21 02:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think people would buy it on the phobos LM [12-Oct-21 12:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 LSE: 6000 AIC *4 LDE: 5000 AIC *4 LBH: 3000 AIC *4 LTA: 3000 AIC *8 ... 80k AIC {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/897529724526534746/unknown.png?ex=6814fab1&is=6813a931&hm=a0d1941038e0ac12566fa0af2511d34deef94f214b679c9f74a61ebf4d062979& [12-Oct-21 05:58 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Dang, thats expensive! [12-Oct-21 11:05 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape need some help with that? [13-Oct-21 12:15 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yes definitely @figaro0714 [13-Oct-21 12:17 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape if you could sell me some PG i can get started on the 4 LSE [13-Oct-21 12:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Sure. will you buy 480 only or more than just the 4 LSE? [13-Oct-21 12:21 PM] figaro0714#0000 Just the 480 [16-Oct-21 05:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 current inventory at ANT ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/899066852951592960/unknown.png?ex=6814a381&is=68135201&hm=8668b525058769e9673b9dec6a786dda0233646727d96d265c83f61e1267f86c& [17-Oct-21 06:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone I just found that ANTS is expanding heavily on griffonstone `PLI LS-300c` [17-Oct-21 06:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Selvatys, Bob Industries, and ManoftheSea are building there in the past week [17-Oct-21 06:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is the HAL planet, its the source of all of our Chlorine effectively [18-Oct-21 11:10 AM] insensless72#0000 I have 35 BBH and 45 BSE ready. I have the materials to produce LSE and LBH. Let me know if anyone wants or needs anything [18-Oct-21 11:20 AM] colerror#0000 If I can get 4 BSE and 8 BBH, that would be great [18-Oct-21 01:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling will be doing a return trip from Deimos to phobos tonight @insensless72 [18-Oct-21 01:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If you have fabs on deimos you could get them to phobos for free and worry about selling them on the LM at that point [18-Oct-21 03:16 PM] insensless72#0000 Unfortunately I do not have them on Deimos [18-Oct-21 03:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Well.. I guess its up to the next limestone shipper to grab them [18-Oct-21 04:09 PM] insensless72#0000 I'm going to send a ship to Phobos @colerror as soon as I can. I'll bring LST to dump on the LM [18-Oct-21 04:09 PM] colerror#0000 Depending on how much you got, I might just buy that off you too [18-Oct-21 04:10 PM] insensless72#0000 It should be around 180 after the fabs [18-Oct-21 04:36 PM] insensless72#0000 Also, im in the process of making 110 PT if anyone needs for a more reasonable price [18-Oct-21 06:44 PM] colerror#0000 Let me know how much for those parts [20-Oct-21 02:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have a vertical carbon producer on Phobos who is interested in joining the corp. It is WarpStreetBets. He seems very friendly and active. [20-Oct-21 02:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I know we are heavy on carbon producers at the moment but he may be willing to transition into something based on carbon. @everyone [20-Oct-21 04:29 PM] insensless72#0000 Sign him up [20-Oct-21 04:37 PM] insensless72#0000 New growth could be good for us [20-Oct-21 04:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thats my thinking, also anyone in carbon over the past month is probably in a good position to expand [20-Oct-21 06:12 PM] megasaberexe#0000 If only they was on deimos, then they could take my role and then I could move to another position that could help our supply chain. [20-Oct-21 06:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Like do we have a person mining limestone? [20-Oct-21 06:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We do, its your neighbor Insensless [20-Oct-21 06:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @megasaberexe if you want to focus on expansion or change up your base we can talk, I dont want you to feel trapped in the carbon situation [20-Oct-21 06:32 PM] megasaberexe#0000 No no, it nothing like that. I was just thinking of corps expansion. I'm complete fine staying in Carbon and stuff. @bitcoin_ape [20-Oct-21 06:41 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Also Insensless, I see i see [20-Oct-21 08:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will invite this new player then if nobody objects. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [22-Oct-21 06:30 PM] federalquality#0000 Joined the server. [22-Oct-21 06:31 PM] federalquality#0000 Hi {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (2) [22-Oct-21 06:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @federalquality welcome to OOG [22-Oct-21 06:59 PM] federalquality#0000 Thank you [22-Oct-21 07:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone our newest member ^^ producing carbon on Phobos [22-Oct-21 07:02 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome @federalquality! [22-Oct-21 07:03 PM] federalquality#0000 As mentioned I am presently making C on Phobos. My most immediate plan is to shift my farming over to Harmonia [22-Oct-21 07:04 PM] federalquality#0000 Happy to be aboard [22-Oct-21 07:09 PM] insensless72#0000 I am the primary constructor in corp along with @figaro0714, if you need help expanding quickly let me know. I have bases on Deimos, Nike and Harmonia. Figaro is local to you on Phobos so he might be your best option but im here for as an alternative if needed [23-Oct-21 04:32 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome WarpstreetBets [25-Oct-21 12:24 PM] spatial_piano#0000 @federalquality Welcome. I'm the company manufacturer. If you need anything from BMP, PPF or WPL I can provide anything I have materials for. Mainly I sell MCG, PE, OVE, PWO and PSL and Also NL on order. I have a second base making H and AMM so if you need either I can sell those as well. [30-Oct-21 12:46 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone Here is my Phobos base as of tonight, recently dropped the Incinerators and added more Chemistry buildings {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/903882552429924362/unknown.png?ex=681504f9&is=6813b379&hm=2d85dd1bf127203008defbc6f6830bab9679136ba45717076a931913ecf2597e& [30-Oct-21 12:47 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Feel free to post your own screenshots! [30-Oct-21 12:56 AM] colerror#0000 CHP has just been doing whatever I have the mats for {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/903885176894001192/unknown.png?ex=6815076b&is=6813b5eb&hm=ab506f43868f1e284d224e15d78ad2bd76c241e3b4c1f767c57a1fafecb24a36& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [30-Oct-21 08:18 AM] federalquality#0000 Apologies, was mostly inactive last week. Does anyone in corp make PSL? The last of the CM bits I've got to purchase. If we do I'd like 12.,let me know price [30-Oct-21 08:27 AM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/903998609459142656/unknown.png?ex=6814c84f&is=681376cf&hm=95479d1f17c3a29f842b770bc16bbf2468ffb35a7a5e17d1efee289cea5c54f2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿชจ (2) ๐Ÿญ (2) [30-Oct-21 08:28 AM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/903998856671404072/unknown.png?ex=6814c88a&is=6813770a&hm=149b6cd7450a160baefc7b7a2e0e84b6daa64cd05e0b36bafa7f8bde746b95fd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿชจ (2) ๐Ÿ—๏ธ (2) [30-Oct-21 08:29 AM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/903999027853537290/unknown.png?ex=6814c8b3&is=68137733&hm=a8429cd4a259f6234999b6025e2120f80d9aa8793b42019941683a56183890a4& {Reactions} ๐Ÿชด (2) ๐Ÿ’ง (2) [30-Oct-21 09:14 AM] insensless72#0000 Whats your workforce and consumable consumption look like?? [30-Oct-21 12:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/904055607701692497/production.PNG?ex=6814fd65&is=6813abe5&hm=d36a084859def4c63f45dc6623a9ffaabbb03e9ec16a3eced4557c6c1ca96375& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) ๐Ÿ“ˆ (2) [30-Oct-21 03:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 Phobos workforce {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/904098180000534548/unknown.png?ex=6815250b&is=6813d38b&hm=199bc0827bcedaf756f1b37b68f1dd4e704a346f1f6bdad5fec915dfdde42228& [05-Nov-21 08:48 AM] spatial_piano#0000 If anybody is going ANT->PHO, there is a shipping contract on Phobos LM I'd if someone could take it. LMA ZV-307d/7697 [05-Nov-21 08:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling and I just returned from ANT, unfortunately you just missed the โ›ต [05-Nov-21 08:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone In case you didnt know already, I think Tadabe has quit playing. No communications in over a month I think ๐Ÿคท [05-Nov-21 08:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, on the same topic, I am getting ghostly vibes from Jarhead. 2 weeks since his last PM. [05-Nov-21 08:17 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wasn't Tadabe on a business trip, also Jarhead might have quit or just busy with life. Maybe wait another week, then we can make a decision. ๐Ÿ˜” That is my opinion {Reactions} ๐ŸŒ„ (3) [05-Nov-21 08:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think its possible that they come back and I dont want to kick anyone out. It doesnt cost anything to have them stay [06-Nov-21 05:15 PM] megasaberexe#0000 True, we are not a hardcore guild or anything like that [08-Nov-21 07:25 AM] sempyrfi#0000 Nope havenโ€™t quit! Just life and work lately ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ (5) ๐Ÿ˜Ž (3) [08-Nov-21 05:47 PM] megasaberexe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/907416015690956821/krazykarl.PNG?ex=6814b0c5&is=68135f45&hm=5ce5e74e0213f9867e5f90259ed831acd00102f6c8d31c4b50aa9fd44aa0be7f& [08-Nov-21 05:48 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Krazykarl guy, kinda forgot to post. Your thoughts @bitcoin_ape? [08-Nov-21 07:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @megasaberexe is he willing to join a corp? If so I will message in game and see if its a good fit [08-Nov-21 07:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thanks for recruiting btw [09-Nov-21 06:14 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape No problem, I wonder if recruiting people from different factions is on the table? [09-Nov-21 06:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have kept it off the table because I think it would become untenable unless they have bases on our planets. Also I worry about corporate spies ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ [09-Nov-21 06:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Coordination and logistics is already quite difficult without roping in distant planets, multiple currencies, and of course burning a ton of fast fuel [10-Nov-21 06:35 PM] megasaberexe#0000 That is logical, i guess the most that can happen is a partnership. [18-Nov-21 08:46 AM] spatial_piano#0000 https://tenor.com/view/stop-eating-can-not-stop-eating-cant-stop-eating-food-hungry-gif-12635991 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/stop-eating-can-not-stop-eating-cant-stop-eating-food-hungry-gif-12635991 Stop Eating https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WzNgHGtLAaybtrJsoRr5lEJrrJ9yrB7XkVqyxZs52h4/https/media.tenor.co/images/eb230784f47eed74d586d965f639a43c/tenor.png [18-Nov-21 08:46 AM] spatial_piano#0000 When you realize the average pioneer eats 8.4 kilos of food every day. [18-Nov-21 08:49 AM] spatial_piano#0000 And then you realize scientists eat 42 kilos of meat every day. [18-Nov-21 08:50 AM] spatial_piano#0000 https://tenor.com/view/scientist-science-im-a-scientist-gif-14090115 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/scientist-science-im-a-scientist-gif-14090115 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0ayq15XH6iyT3smIBVUPvIpxxlF4EldeufhxutWoUFY/https/media.tenor.co/images/14dc6890d738ecf32b617fb865f1e9b2/tenor.png [18-Nov-21 05:43 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Hmmmm maybe it's a bribe to make them stay, life of luxury or something [20-Nov-21 07:18 AM] insensless72#0000 IS anyone in corp producing DDT? [20-Nov-21 09:07 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling is on Griffonstone, it will be used in farms on phobos and harmonia. [20-Nov-21 09:08 AM] insensless72#0000 Awesome, I need it to produce FIM for my engineers [20-Nov-21 09:08 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 herbz. [20-Nov-21 09:09 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Its also needed for medkits. We can have both [20-Nov-21 10:40 AM] insensless72#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Nov-21 04:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone This is your friendly OOG sponsored reminder message to repair your buildings [21-Nov-21 04:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Your efficiency is our efficiency, komrade. [21-Nov-21 04:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, unrelated to building condition, I would like to thank @megasaberexe who has been actively recruiting for new food production players on Harmonia {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [21-Nov-21 04:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hopefully we can pick up a few new faces! [25-Nov-21 06:07 PM] insensless72#0000 Happy Thanksgiving corp! I hope everyone has/had a wonderful day. ๐Ÿฆƒ๐Ÿป [26-Nov-21 12:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thanks mang ๐Ÿ– hope you ate well [26-Nov-21 12:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ive had enough food for the rest of the winter [27-Nov-21 08:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone I have found a new player on Deimos who wants to join us. Im pretty sure they started on carbon but that could easily become vertical metallurgy on Deimos. [27-Nov-21 08:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/914347800056201286/image0.jpg?ex=6814dbff&is=68138a7f&hm=85c4ef78b1677f98d9cb028b66ccd04caf91ea7dd42fb3d76a87322944b8f07a& [27-Nov-21 08:52 PM] insensless72#0000 Add them, if they need help expanding @ me [27-Nov-21 08:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 As always, shareholder input is requested before i go around making unilateral decisions ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Nov-21 08:54 PM] insensless72#0000 The more people we have the stronger we are imo ๐Ÿ’ช [28-Nov-21 02:11 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh the phone version is so cool, ๐Ÿ˜Ž. Let's get goooooooooo [28-Nov-21 07:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿฅ [28-Nov-21 07:54 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Joined the server. [28-Nov-21 07:54 PM] sackless_jack#0000 [28-Nov-21 07:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone please welcome Legendairie | CarbonSanDiego [28-Nov-21 07:55 PM] federalquality#0000 [28-Nov-21 07:57 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I'm glad to join a team! I made too many mistakes trying to figure out what I'm doing XD [28-Nov-21 07:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 That is fine. Most people end up doing a free restart (COLIQ) early on. It doesnt have much affect if you do it early after making various mistakes [28-Nov-21 08:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It is also possible to stick it out and be successful as myself and others in corp have done, but I think I would ultimately have grown faster if I restarted after 1 week. [28-Nov-21 08:00 PM] sackless_jack#0000 That's good to hear. I don't think I'm at the point of needing to liquidate but, It would have been nice not doing shipping contracts at a lose haha [28-Nov-21 08:01 PM] sackless_jack#0000 yeah [28-Nov-21 08:03 PM] sackless_jack#0000 So what is this Corp in need of atm? I'm doing Carbon farming [28-Nov-21 08:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 You are in a great position to do metallurgy on Deimos if you decided to stay there and not COLIQ [28-Nov-21 08:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 that would mean producing AL with a smelter, using the carbon that you already have [28-Nov-21 08:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 aluminum is good, in the past we have had to buy large amounts from external sellers. Not a huge deal but it is inconvenient [28-Nov-21 08:06 PM] insensless72#0000 What planet are you located on Airie? [28-Nov-21 08:06 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Deimos [28-Nov-21 08:07 PM] insensless72#0000 If youre in need of cash I can buy the C you have currently. My main base is on Deimos as well [28-Nov-21 08:08 PM] insensless72#0000 C is not a bad market on Deimos considering its heavily specialized to metallurgy, but like DLR was saying, I would recommend further growth into ALO or SME [28-Nov-21 08:09 PM] insensless72#0000 I think that currently I am the only other Corp member extracting ALO, so there is plenty of room there. [28-Nov-21 08:11 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Ok, let me look up what ALO and SME is [28-Nov-21 08:12 PM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/914700303801131058/unknown.png?ex=6814d2ca&is=6813814a&hm=6178f21084601456c01c3e10264c9d1a476143f6d739c9569d48601d33653ef8& [28-Nov-21 08:13 PM] insensless72#0000 Deimos has 3 resources naturally, ALO is one of them. It is found in the Ores tab on the market exchange [28-Nov-21 08:14 PM] sackless_jack#0000 ok cool. Can you extract water? I bought some and shipped it to water my farms lol [28-Nov-21 08:14 PM] sackless_jack#0000 also what is SME? [28-Nov-21 08:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Smelter [28-Nov-21 08:16 PM] sackless_jack#0000 ahh I seee [28-Nov-21 08:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 in a new buffer, you can type `BUI SME` to get this screen: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/914701394970292274/unknown.png?ex=6814d3ce&is=6813824e&hm=e1f8de6ce9de116893938610bc3d0d7bdd0946e91e146c9ae4a8dcb5291215ca& [28-Nov-21 08:18 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Nice, so many shortcuts [28-Nov-21 08:19 PM] sackless_jack#0000 is there a hotkey to bring up a new buffer? [28-Nov-21 08:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 there is a button at the very bottom left of the screen [28-Nov-21 08:19 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Yeah! I see that [28-Nov-21 08:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you cant see it, you need to hit the "BFRS" button on the left side [28-Nov-21 08:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 same goes for the SCRNS menu which is at the top left. [28-Nov-21 08:20 PM] insensless72#0000 [28-Nov-21 08:20 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I see that too [28-Nov-21 08:22 PM] sackless_jack#0000 so If I wanted to extract ALO what does the production look like? [28-Nov-21 08:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Build an extractor (EXT), and probably a HB1 to support the 60 pioneers. [28-Nov-21 08:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Hold on Ill show you my production line [28-Nov-21 08:24 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I have room for up to 300 pioneers currently [28-Nov-21 08:25 PM] insensless72#0000 I Extract the ALO and smelt it into AL {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/914703569079369759/unknown.png?ex=6814d5d5&is=68138455&hm=d0f77d0bc5d13f435c55f0cc92a10293bc69ccb092ec4244396ff5ffae809c38& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ (2) ๐Ÿค˜ (2) [28-Nov-21 08:25 PM] insensless72#0000 you have plenty of room [28-Nov-21 08:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Minimum is 1 EXT + 1 SME to extract ALO and smelt it. You would buy a small amount of oxygen in this case and use your own carbon. Oxygen is cheap, you will have no trouble buying it. [28-Nov-21 08:33 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Interesting [28-Nov-21 08:36 PM] insensless72#0000 You can stick with what you have, because C will be in demand on Deimos (ill buy it all from you) and you can expand into that, or you can start extracting ALO and move into metallurgy [28-Nov-21 08:37 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Well I would love to do either one but I don't have a lot of cash. In a few hours another bath of Carbon will be done but I'll only have 8which is like 2k AIC [28-Nov-21 08:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 how many Incinerators do you have? [28-Nov-21 08:38 PM] sackless_jack#0000 2 and have half the prefabs for a 3rd [28-Nov-21 08:39 PM] sackless_jack#0000 just missing 1 BSE 1. BTA and 2 BDE [28-Nov-21 08:41 PM] insensless72#0000 My main focus is construction, Ill give you the supplies for an EXT and SME to see how it goes [28-Nov-21 08:42 PM] sackless_jack#0000 oh wow that would be awesome [28-Nov-21 08:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Ill get you what you need to finish the 3rd INC, a EXT, and SME and you only sell the C to me, sound good? [28-Nov-21 08:48 PM] sackless_jack#0000 That does sound good, I would like to clarify a few things before officially agreeing. How much will I be selling you the Carbon for compared to market rate? [28-Nov-21 09:00 PM] sackless_jack#0000 also looks like my workforce is 180/300, with a 3rd Incinerator, EXT and SME that would put me at 330/300. So I would need a fourth HB1 I believe [28-Nov-21 09:03 PM] insensless72#0000 So the total for fabs is 26,700 with everything below market value, ill break that down for you if you want. ill pay market value or above if you need the cash right away for C [28-Nov-21 09:05 PM] insensless72#0000 Im not interested in locking you into a deal or anything. After all, your production helps the corp grow. all I was askign right away is sell your local C to me so i can fuel my smelters [28-Nov-21 09:08 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Ok! Thanks for your generosity! It's a deal ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Nov-21 09:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Check my math, thats: 19 BSE 4 BBH 4 BDE 1 BTA [28-Nov-21 09:10 PM] insensless72#0000 168 MCG [28-Nov-21 09:10 PM] insensless72#0000 without the HB1 [28-Nov-21 09:15 PM] sackless_jack#0000 yup your math is spot on [28-Nov-21 09:17 PM] insensless72#0000 Im going to post ads for the fabs needed to complete your INC [28-Nov-21 09:18 PM] insensless72#0000 i have a ship headed to deimos tomorrow, you can get your 3rd INC up and in the next couple days the rest wil larrive [28-Nov-21 09:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 pro/basic license required for accepting local market ads [28-Nov-21 09:18 PM] insensless72#0000 dammit [28-Nov-21 09:18 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I have a pro license {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [28-Nov-21 09:19 PM] insensless72#0000 be ready to grab them then [28-Nov-21 09:20 PM] sackless_jack#0000 so since I don't have the cash right now, I'll still accept and pay you for them when I have enough? [28-Nov-21 09:20 PM] insensless72#0000 Ya, just chip away at it as you can [28-Nov-21 09:21 PM] insensless72#0000 10 C here and there [28-Nov-21 09:21 PM] sackless_jack#0000 ok cool! [28-Nov-21 09:21 PM] insensless72#0000 Id rather get you on your feet to help the corp out and then worry about it [28-Nov-21 09:21 PM] insensless72#0000 be ready for the ads cause im posting sell offers at .01 [28-Nov-21 09:22 PM] sackless_jack#0000 we can't do a direct contract? [28-Nov-21 09:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is direct contract on the deimos local market [28-Nov-21 09:22 PM] insensless72#0000 CarbonSandiego? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Nov-21 09:22 PM] sackless_jack#0000 ok, rushing to accept is kinda stressful since I wanna make sure I'm accepting the right one >.< [28-Nov-21 09:23 PM] sackless_jack#0000 yes CarbonSanDiego [28-Nov-21 09:23 PM] insensless72#0000 Sweet! [28-Nov-21 09:24 PM] colerror#0000 You can't just make a deal between players, you have to put it on the market [28-Nov-21 09:24 PM] sackless_jack#0000 also are we just doing one at a time? [28-Nov-21 09:25 PM] insensless72#0000 Yup, I can only post 1 at a time. So now that those are active, when my ship arrives tomorrow I can give you the fabs. You will have to pick them up and pay the [28-Nov-21 09:25 PM] insensless72#0000 .01 to complete the contract though [28-Nov-21 09:26 PM] sackless_jack#0000 ok [28-Nov-21 09:28 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Just to clarify, all the prefabs are off planet and on the way? [28-Nov-21 09:29 PM] insensless72#0000 correct, I smelt my AL on Deimos and ship it to Nike for construction. The fabs are on their way from Nike, arriving in 10hrs [28-Nov-21 09:30 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Sweet! And we are done with making/accepting contracts?(So I don't have to keep my eyes glued to the LM list) [28-Nov-21 09:31 PM] insensless72#0000 lol yes were done [28-Nov-21 09:31 PM] insensless72#0000 When I have the fabs ready for your other buildings ill let you know [28-Nov-21 09:31 PM] insensless72#0000 should be within the next couple days [28-Nov-21 09:32 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Awesome! Thanks again for your help! Glad to be apart of your Corp ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Nov-21 09:33 PM] insensless72#0000 Nice having you! [28-Nov-21 09:34 PM] insensless72#0000 If you have any questions just let any of us know, most of us are pretty experienced players. DLR being our fearless leader [28-Nov-21 09:36 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I plan on it! the first 3 days after I signed up I had no idea what was going on lol [28-Nov-21 09:36 PM] insensless72#0000 Yeah theres a pretty steep learning curve. The help videos for the game do a pretty good job. If you havent watched them you definitely should [28-Nov-21 09:38 PM] sackless_jack#0000 I did, I think I watched all of them a few times. The help/tutorial buffers helped out a lot too! [28-Nov-21 09:41 PM] insensless72#0000 The hardest part for me was figuring out how to set up individual screens, and figuring out what I needed on them. Once you have that down playing is easy [28-Nov-21 09:42 PM] sackless_jack#0000 yeah! I haven't even really tried [28-Nov-21 09:43 PM] sackless_jack#0000 maybe we can chat and do a screen share sometime. A little Corp tutorial or something [28-Nov-21 09:44 PM] insensless72#0000 For sure, I can do my best to give a quick crash course now if you have a sec [28-Nov-21 09:45 PM] sackless_jack#0000 yeah that sounds good! [29-Nov-21 10:21 AM] sackless_jack#0000 I need some NCC for fuel to get my ship home. Anyone wanna trade NCC for AIC? [29-Nov-21 10:25 AM] sackless_jack#0000 Actually I have some Carbon to sell to @insensless72. I'm sure he will be able to get me some NCC [29-Nov-21 10:26 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have never traded in NCC, otherwise I would happily help. You are out at moria with no fuel? [29-Nov-21 10:26 AM] sackless_jack#0000 yup ๐Ÿ™ƒ [29-Nov-21 05:54 PM] insensless72#0000 @sackless_jack I do not know how to get NCC to be honest with you. I have a ship at the station I can send with fuel to get you home [29-Nov-21 05:55 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @sackless_jack Welcome Airie! [29-Nov-21 06:08 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Hey @insensless72 that would be great XD I put up a foreign exchange order but no bites just yet [29-Nov-21 06:08 PM] sackless_jack#0000 @megasaberexe Thanks! It's good to be here [29-Nov-21 06:12 PM] sackless_jack#0000 @insensless72 wait, you already have a ship at Moria Station? Or you would send a ship to Moria. I would hate to make you come all the way out just to save me >.< [29-Nov-21 06:14 PM] insensless72#0000 I have a ship at the Antares Station. I will have to send it out to save you with enough fuel to get you home. alternatively, I can provide you the fuel on Deimos so you can send your second ship to get your first [29-Nov-21 06:15 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Hmmm I think waiting for my foreign exchange to go through would be best. then I could buy enough fuel to get to Antares [29-Nov-21 06:16 PM] insensless72#0000 Cool! let me know how that works, ive never done it before [29-Nov-21 06:16 PM] sackless_jack#0000 and if anyone here wants to trade 1k AIC for 1k NCC that would help too [29-Nov-21 06:16 PM] sackless_jack#0000 will do! [29-Nov-21 06:20 PM] insensless72#0000 Since our corp is located in the Antares region, all corp members have AIC. Just so you know for the future, if you go to any base other than Antares they use different forms of currency [29-Nov-21 06:21 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Yeah! I have had a few foreign exchanges go through so far so I have had the chance to use a few besidees AIC [29-Nov-21 06:23 PM] insensless72#0000 Nice! [29-Nov-21 07:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @sackless_jack we will rescue your ship tonight one way or another. I know a few ways to fix this [29-Nov-21 07:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 did you get any NCC or fuel yet? [29-Nov-21 07:20 PM] insensless72#0000 Only fuel but ill use it [29-Nov-21 08:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @sackless_jack transferred 995 NCC to you via the FX currency exchange [29-Nov-21 08:49 PM] sackless_jack#0000 oh sweet thanks @bitcoin_ape ! I got the NCC. Going to buy fuel now [29-Nov-21 08:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is a low liquidity currency pair due to how distant the exchanges are and that NCC is a larger economy than AIC. [29-Nov-21 08:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I had to go through AIC-> CIS and then CIS -> NCC which worked nicely because I had some leftover CIS to cover fees from an old trade. [29-Nov-21 09:08 PM] sackless_jack#0000 Nice [30-Nov-21 01:37 PM] figaro0714#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ƒ (2) [20-Dec-21 01:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @Everyone I have found another new player on Phobos who is expressing interest in OOG {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [20-Dec-21 04:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The name is `USR Domicius` [20-Dec-21 04:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I am awaiting a quick summary of the production lines, starter packages, goals, etc. before dropping an invitation [21-Dec-21 12:40 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/922740335002677258/unknown.png?ex=681511a7&is=6813c027&hm=94320641e07140f4c7f8642fdff62ca1ef9e3e0f21230f2bd88ad31d80fb8416& [21-Dec-21 12:42 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone I am inviting Domicius now. They have a manufacturing/resource base on Phobos and room to specialize into electronics, which we need badly. [21-Dec-21 02:50 AM] domicius#0000 Joined the server. [21-Dec-21 02:50 AM] domicius#0000 [21-Dec-21 02:50 AM] domicius#0000 ๐Ÿ• [21-Dec-21 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 Btw y'all, I'll be doing a run from Phobos to Deimos for a secret santa gift in the next day. Let me know if you need anything run. [21-Dec-21 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 Also, do we have any breakdown of what we're all making somewhere? Like a Google sheet or something? [21-Dec-21 06:08 AM] insensless72#0000 [21-Dec-21 06:58 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Domicius! I may have some things for you to fly to Deimos for me, I'll let you know but the end of today. We are a pretty diverse Corp so far, I'll let @everyone explain their setup for you. I am located on Nike, Deimos, and Harmonia. I specialize in fab production, and I dabble in metallurgy and consumables. Let me know if you need help expanding! [21-Dec-21 07:35 AM] domicius#0000 Great - thanks Insensless. Just set up an ad and let me know the deets. Im about 24 hours out from touchdown on Phobos and loading up. I need about 150tn/50m3 for my own stuff. [21-Dec-21 10:33 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @domicius welcome. My largest base is on Phobos and focuses mainly on Chemicals (polymer plants + CHP). I have an extraction base on a remote planet and a new construction base on Nike in Antares area. [21-Dec-21 10:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have posted our production spreadsheet in the strategy channel. As you can see we have no electronics buildings in corp. You are on the best electronics planet (Phobos) so its a good option for you to specialize in [21-Dec-21 11:08 AM] spatial_piano#0000 @domicius Welcome. I'm the other manufacturer in corp, with a side of refining. My main base is Phobos, and I have bases on Nike and QJ-382g. My main products are MCG, PE, SF, H, AMM and whatever you need from PPF or WPL. I also recently started making BDEs on Nike, but on Phobos it's probably easier to buy those from Earthling. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Dec-21 11:44 AM] domicius#0000 Cool [21-Dec-21 01:27 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Well lookie that. This is why you should read all your messages. [21-Dec-21 01:27 PM] spatial_piano#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/922933340770807888/unknown.png?ex=68151ca7&is=6813cb27&hm=3a4bf0319bf7c6d4526dc4f14771a30efd577b2248733717302c74d1f88cac8e& {Reactions} โญ ๐Ÿญ [21-Dec-21 01:28 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Look at this sexy shit. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/922933540260282438/unknown.png?ex=68151cd7&is=6813cb57&hm=593b46330a9dd16655cff48988fe81afdd992208db5ddcd90e35842a104816c1& [21-Dec-21 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 NICE! [21-Dec-21 02:32 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Is there some Youtube video going around again? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/922949674640502816/unknown.png?ex=68152bde&is=6813da5e&hm=b63f3b56e182ef1486b11e76e4c7d7a751c2bbec58854c4c627d4d089663c3b4& [21-Dec-21 02:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone gold rush !! [21-Dec-21 02:33 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Lot of them have CZ in their name. [21-Dec-21 02:34 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Czechs? [21-Dec-21 02:37 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Look at em go {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/922950979480080444/unknown.png?ex=68152d15&is=6813db95&hm=d9777f7e6ac3d8ff0e9b4924854a27c2e85a56516cdae29b0ca10f4ece6fe361& [21-Dec-21 02:40 PM] domicius#0000 Yes, a Czech youtube posted up a review [21-Dec-21 02:47 PM] insensless72#0000 Stockpile product if you can, price is about to spike {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  (2) [21-Dec-21 03:14 PM] figaro0714#0000 [21-Dec-21 03:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano dump fuel if its not too late [21-Dec-21 03:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 short term i think this could lower fuel prices since new players have full fuel tanks [21-Dec-21 05:34 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [21-Dec-21 07:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Just sold 68 BSE on CX in 1 day {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [21-Dec-21 08:45 PM] domicius#0000 Speaking of, does anyone have 6 BBH I could buy for Phobos? [21-Dec-21 11:00 PM] figaro0714#0000 @domicius i do, it'll be 1000/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [22-Dec-21 12:05 AM] domicius#0000 Shall I put up an ad? [22-Dec-21 12:26 AM] domicius#0000 LMA ZV-307d/10043 [22-Dec-21 12:27 AM] domicius#0000 Note I might be delayed on that payment, waiting for some money to come in. [22-Dec-21 12:28 AM] domicius#0000 Should be today [22-Dec-21 07:46 AM] domicius#0000 Flush with cash now ๐Ÿง [22-Dec-21 11:40 AM] figaro0714#0000 @domicius has the order already been filled? [22-Dec-21 11:54 AM] domicius#0000 LOL, yes someone sold them. I thought it was you ๐Ÿ˜† [22-Dec-21 11:55 AM] domicius#0000 Did you guys know that nobody is selling TS in AI1? [22-Dec-21 11:56 AM] domicius#0000 It's required for AL. [22-Dec-21 11:56 AM] domicius#0000 Which goes into Clean Room prod [22-Dec-21 12:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 TS is hard to find because it is normally on extreme planets. It isnt required for AL though, we have an abundance of AL locally through Deimos [22-Dec-21 12:45 PM] domicius#0000 Does it come out of the ground as AL or ALO? [22-Dec-21 12:48 PM] insensless72#0000 Yes it does Domicius, but you shouldnt need it. Its not even being sold on market yet [22-Dec-21 12:49 PM] insensless72#0000 Easiest way to AL is ALO + C + O [22-Dec-21 01:10 PM] domicius#0000 Just checking what all goes into a CLR [22-Dec-21 01:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ALO comes from ground, AL is refined from ALO [22-Dec-21 01:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 same with SIO (silicon ore) refining to SI [22-Dec-21 01:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 and FEO (iron ore) refining to FE [22-Dec-21 06:53 PM] insensless72#0000 Does anyone want ALO? I could spare up to 200 at this point [22-Dec-21 06:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @figaro0714 ^ [22-Dec-21 08:23 PM] figaro0714#0000 @insensless72 not currently, just got a ton from cx [23-Dec-21 02:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have noticed a new local corporation called POL with 3 members [23-Dec-21 02:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have not spoken to them yet, but my first thought it to pursue a merger where they drop corp and join us [23-Dec-21 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 CORPS POL {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/923679544458743808/image.png?ex=681487dc&is=6813365c&hm=a13014376acc15a2978d26107a9dfc69f161bd86a6729b771f0716ccc2d3585e& [23-Dec-21 02:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone Thoughts? Merger terms? [23-Dec-21 04:07 PM] insensless72#0000 Ive seen Yorkshire water on the CX, a merger could work, we could absorb them [23-Dec-21 04:08 PM] domicius#0000 He's a really cool chap [23-Dec-21 04:08 PM] domicius#0000 Ive done a few shippings for him, and he/she (I guess) is friendly. [23-Dec-21 04:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Reach out and see what they have to say. Could be they know each other irl and wouldnt be interested [23-Dec-21 04:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Could also be a quick +3 for us [23-Dec-21 04:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea true. I will draw up a message and reach out tonight or tomorrow to see what their position is [23-Dec-21 04:11 PM] domicius#0000 Happy to do an intro or whatever you require. [23-Dec-21 04:11 PM] insensless72#0000 You could offer them a free building (settler level max) to each if they join, I could pull that off [23-Dec-21 04:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 free AML for everyone [23-Dec-21 04:11 PM] domicius#0000 They need help shipping stuff I think [23-Dec-21 04:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Good to know. I will mention that we often cooperate on shipping. [23-Dec-21 04:13 PM] domicius#0000 Hmm ginme a sec [23-Dec-21 04:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 I was thinking I would just cover their share price (3000 total) as a โ€œbuyoutโ€ type thing [23-Dec-21 04:13 PM] insensless72#0000 Sounds good [23-Dec-21 04:14 PM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/923700129368776724/Screenshot_20211223-221411_Chrome.jpg?ex=68149b08&is=68134988&hm=0b1b4a803d4d58b190a1e6a4bbb4d26d838a94da9242aa9bf638af9092a329ba& [23-Dec-21 04:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Ah that appears to be a hydrogen shipment [23-Dec-21 04:15 PM] insensless72#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [23-Dec-21 04:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Good info @domicius thanks [23-Dec-21 04:16 PM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/923700560341893210/Screenshot_20211223-221601_Chrome.jpg?ex=68149b6f&is=681349ef&hm=3440286f13829c0343309d3bc449b2f3483ad8ba986febc1edd728a8005b0ab0& [23-Dec-21 04:16 PM] domicius#0000 He was my secret santa, and gave me a lot of LST [23-Dec-21 04:18 PM] domicius#0000 And then came back and gave me lots of BSE and BDE [23-Dec-21 04:18 PM] domicius#0000 Because I was a "new player". So super cool. Don't know the rest of then tho [23-Dec-21 04:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Well, im convinced. [23-Dec-21 04:23 PM] domicius#0000 Mention me if you want? Say I thought they were super cool [23-Dec-21 05:35 PM] megasaberexe#0000 The more the merrier I say! But I guess we should also do some background checks [24-Dec-21 10:59 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone I have just sent the following message to all members of POL corp: ```I am DLR of Antares Holdings Corp, founder and leader of OOG corporation. I noticed that you have recently incorporated into POL with 2 other members. I am contacting the three of you to propose a merger/buyout between our two corporations. During this proposed buyout, POL would disband and join OOG. I think that there is unique opportunity here considering that all of our respective members are in Antares space, on the same planets in many cases. As for the terms of the merger, I think you will find them quite favorable. There are 3 requirements: 1. POL members would leave POL and join OOG. 2. DLR would remain as the leader of OOG. 3. At least one member of POL (preferably all) would join the OOG discord server for communications purposes. Beyond these, there are no hard requirements from OOG. You would be equals among our shareholders, and would not lose any autonomy in game. Immediately following the merger, I would personally transfer a sum of 2500 AIC (tax free) to each member of POL via local market contracts. This would effectively be the buyout of your shares for 1.50 AIC per share, and provide 'free' entry to OOG with 1000 shares at 1.00 AIC each. We do not make any requirements of our members to donate, build certain things, or operate in any specific way. We are a very cooperative group, and consistently provide good prices, supply chain guarantees, and favorable/free shipping arrangements within the corporation. Additionally, I have had reports from current OOG members that you are cooperative players with fair business practices and demonstrated generosity in game. Yorkshire Water specifically has been described as "Super cool". This is exactly the kind of good-faith cooperation that we encourage in OOG, and we would be happy to welcome you to the team. Please, do discuss and come back to me with questions, concerns, or conditions.``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [24-Dec-21 10:59 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Removed some of the fancy english to fit discord's message size limit. All the info is there. [24-Dec-21 11:24 AM] domicius#0000 Groovy [24-Dec-21 04:03 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape Hey DLR just got a player named spoopy [24-Dec-21 04:04 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Should I add them to the server? [24-Dec-21 04:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 are they in corp already? away from computer while cooking [24-Dec-21 04:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh wait mobile gang [24-Dec-21 04:05 PM] megasaberexe#0000 lol [24-Dec-21 04:06 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Not yet, haven't send them a invite. Actually I don't even know their ingame name. Should I ask for their name? [24-Dec-21 04:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i always invite to discord after they join [24-Dec-21 04:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yea verify in game account first [24-Dec-21 04:06 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay will do [24-Dec-21 04:10 PM] megasaberexe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/924061539181412412/player.PNG?ex=68149a1f&is=6813489f&hm=6c2cec304cae6801fc18ec2fb6df68f2dd061a878da3e60a56d824ecefcf22e3& [24-Dec-21 04:11 PM] megasaberexe#0000 In-game name: DoopyDoopz [24-Dec-21 04:12 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Going to send them a invite to this server [24-Dec-21 04:13 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Have just sent them a invite [24-Dec-21 04:15 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh shoot I sent him a corps invite not a discord invite. What was I thinking....... [24-Dec-21 04:15 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Why I'm I even allowed to do that lol [24-Dec-21 04:16 PM] spoooperz#0000 Joined the server. [24-Dec-21 04:16 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [24-Dec-21 04:16 PM] insensless72#0000 [24-Dec-21 04:16 PM] spoooperz#0000 [24-Dec-21 04:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome @spoooperz [24-Dec-21 04:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We will get you an in game invite soon. What is your starter package, home planet, and current production buildings? [24-Dec-21 05:01 PM] spoooperz#0000 Metallurgist, Deimos and I'll have to get back to you on the last one. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [24-Dec-21 05:01 PM] domicius#0000 Hi there, Spoopy! [24-Dec-21 05:01 PM] spoooperz#0000 :CatWave: [24-Dec-21 09:17 PM] figaro0714#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [25-Dec-21 08:09 AM] dasefx1#0000 Joined the server. [25-Dec-21 08:10 AM] dasefx1#0000 Hello everyone ๐Ÿ™‚ I just joined corp ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [25-Dec-21 08:10 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome! [25-Dec-21 08:11 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone POL has accepted the merger offer we discussed recently {Reactions} award_rocketthumbsup (2) [25-Dec-21 08:32 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome all POL members! Glad to have you with us [25-Dec-21 08:36 AM] spoooperz#0000 :Based: [25-Dec-21 11:49 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Welcome everyone [25-Dec-21 01:19 PM] figaro0714#0000 [25-Dec-21 01:36 PM] domicius#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hello-wave-cute-anime-cartoon-gif-7537923 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hello-wave-cute-anime-cartoon-gif-7537923 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BPaXevwsSdrwSyE_-NNEAZaHyIG7cS7jiyEnd6fSxcE/https/media.tenor.co/images/40fd3ba1d81565e4f4cbceb3e2d6289e/tenor.png [25-Dec-21 08:27 PM] megasaberexe#0000 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, MY FIRENDS! [26-Dec-21 09:48 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone as you are likely aware, we have brought on some experienced multi-base players. This is an excellent time for us to push new bases for members who only have one base. [26-Dec-21 09:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If you are currently on one base, it is time to prioritize the second base ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Dec-21 09:49 AM] dasefx1#0000 I am happy to help ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Dec-21 09:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Myself as well. [26-Dec-21 09:54 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I have 16 PSL on Phobos (in 30 min), 8 on ANT warehouse, so that's enough for 2 bases even without taking stuff off market. [26-Dec-21 09:55 AM] insensless72#0000 I have a good stock of bfabs and lfabs [26-Dec-21 10:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I just sent enough LFABs for a core module to ANT, but they are not sold yet [26-Dec-21 10:15 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I can keep the core module fabs in inventory. So with this we have enough for 2 bases in current inventory between me, mark and insensless [26-Dec-21 12:51 PM] colerror#0000 I'll probably take one, I'll be back around on Tuesday [26-Dec-21 01:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Great! [26-Dec-21 03:46 PM] domicius#0000 Have you guys seen Barbarian Econ? Quite often holds a buy and a sell position on the market on order to make money without actually producing anything. Basically takes advantage of of the illiquidity of the market. [26-Dec-21 03:46 PM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/924780338859884554/Screenshot_20211226-214349_Chrome.jpg?ex=6814948e&is=6813430e&hm=4e76fdcc3c76be8441ff8e703604616d639ccebfb9d421c047c18160c193d3b3& [26-Dec-21 03:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yes, I have noticed this. [26-Dec-21 03:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There is huge (immeasurable?) opportunity cost in this strategy, but it is obvious how one would make money doing this. [26-Dec-21 03:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I prefer to put all capital/resources into scaling up my bases and expanding, instead of keeping 200k+ tied up on the exchange [26-Dec-21 03:49 PM] domicius#0000 Indeed. Its more that he's basically set himself up as a MM, replacing the existing MM. [26-Dec-21 03:51 PM] domicius#0000 Since there is no cost to this strategy, he will eventually control all commodities... Just rinsing them through his accounts. The key is he isn't rushed, so can hold positions forever. [26-Dec-21 03:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea, he could get overwhelmed by the market, but at that point he would have made a ton of money [26-Dec-21 03:51 PM] domicius#0000 Yes. And he's just relist his buy and sell [26-Dec-21 03:54 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There is cost to this strategy. He does not create wealth, or at least not as much as he could be if he was investing in base building [26-Dec-21 03:55 PM] domicius#0000 Agreed! [26-Dec-21 03:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 He is playing a zero sums game, and with the exponential growth that other players are having, I expect he will get passed in terms of net assets and income [26-Dec-21 03:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Maybe he is a finance day-trade wizard and still comes out ahead of us all. Hard to say. [26-Dec-21 03:58 PM] domicius#0000 He saves hours on not having to do spreadsheets! More likely, I think he's got a low maintenance game amd just logs in once a week in order to do something. Oh well, just thought I'd call it out. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ (2) [26-Dec-21 03:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Glad you did, fun discussion [28-Dec-21 07:02 PM] insensless72#0000 Does anyone know if a governor can change the cost of Warehouse units? [28-Dec-21 07:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yes, they can. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Ž [29-Dec-21 03:20 PM] insensless72#0000 Is anyone interested in 200 ALO on Deimos before I put it on the LM? [31-Dec-21 06:17 PM] domicius#0000 Happy New Year from the UK! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [31-Dec-21 08:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 2๏ธโƒฃ 0๏ธโƒฃ 2๏ธโƒฃ 2๏ธโƒฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (4) [03-Jan-22 02:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hi @everyone Im sure you have seen this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/927657716497940481/unknown.png?ex=68152912&is=6813d792&hm=6d07a754a0d586ab7e739ed01e7d5b990efa0c4b49d11c5eab5545c94e272ee0& [03-Jan-22 02:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Tadabe had become inactive several months ago. [03-Jan-22 02:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This was his account being auto-deleted by the game {Reactions} โ˜ ๏ธ (4) [03-Jan-22 03:42 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Snap, big rip [03-Jan-22 05:19 PM] domicius#0000 Thanks for the note, i was wondering [07-Jan-22 04:00 AM] domicius#0000 Announcement: I have a new base up on planet KI-840c. Once it's out of shakedown, it will be producing CUO and SCN, which will be available on Phobos and ANT1 as well. We thank our corporate sponsor Yorkishire Water for their crucial support on this project. ๐Ÿฅณ ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ”ง ๐Ÿพ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป (2) ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [07-Jan-22 06:53 AM] insensless72#0000 Very nice! [07-Jan-22 12:41 PM] figaro0714#0000 Selling 8 ASE [07-Jan-22 02:08 PM] dasefx1#0000 @figaro0714 listed 3 ASE on phobos thanks ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Jan-22 03:07 PM] figaro0714#0000 @dasefx1 fulfilled {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป [07-Jan-22 04:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 what is the ASE price? Earthling is trying to build an ORC too and we are looking for price reference points. [07-Jan-22 04:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Currently Earthling prioritizes the IY-206i base which is being built tomorrow, but ORC is next on the list. [07-Jan-22 04:40 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape 15k/u [07-Jan-22 04:41 PM] figaro0714#0000 And ATA will be 8k/u [07-Jan-22 04:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 great, thanks [08-Jan-22 12:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone molp is not responding concerning the HQ bonus on Nike. [08-Jan-22 12:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I am willing to be optimistic here and agree with @dasefx1 that being allowed to build the project almost certainly means the +10% bonus will be applied on planet as described in the project screen. [08-Jan-22 12:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 So, if the main RFAB holders/donators can agree to take the risk here in this "grey area" I think we should move forward with the project. @dasefx1 @insensless72 @figaro0714 [08-Jan-22 12:15 PM] insensless72#0000 I think getting it started sounds great [08-Jan-22 12:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the RFABs cannot be recovered once donated [08-Jan-22 12:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I vote to donate though. The suspense is killing me. [08-Jan-22 12:53 PM] dasefx1#0000 me too lets start [08-Jan-22 12:55 PM] dasefx1#0000 when you start project let me know and I will add [08-Jan-22 12:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 just waiting for @figaro0714 to vote (10 RBH donation) [08-Jan-22 12:57 PM] dasefx1#0000 np ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Jan-22 05:22 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape I'll donate the 10 RBH [08-Jan-22 05:24 PM] dasefx1#0000 @bitcoin_ape lets start the show ๐Ÿ˜ [08-Jan-22 06:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 project started [08-Jan-22 06:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 open it with this buffer command: ```CORPP P.24.436``` [10-Jan-22 05:09 PM] domicius#0000 So apparently there is a shipyard on A1C [10-Jan-22 05:09 PM] domicius#0000 So ship building near Phobos is a thing! [10-Jan-22 05:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yes, it was always there. Only โ€œnaturally occuringโ€ shipyard in the game [10-Jan-22 05:10 PM] domicius#0000 Ah! [10-Jan-22 05:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Other planets would need to build a shipyard as a planetary infrastructure project {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-22 05:10 PM] domicius#0000 That's what I thought we needed to do too [10-Jan-22 05:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 with this one on A1C some players have already made glass furnace tech ships, no faster than light capability at all. [10-Jan-22 05:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 these ships are forever stuck in Antares 1, but there is some utility in there such as Phobos <โ€”> ANT trips [10-Jan-22 05:14 PM] domicius#0000 Yeah, makes sense if you prefer not going to the CX with long jumps [10-Jan-22 05:14 PM] domicius#0000 All added capacity is good capacity [10-Jan-22 05:15 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Are the shipyards in the other CX systems built? I thought all the systems started with one? [10-Jan-22 05:17 PM] spatial_piano#0000 VH-331E has one, also Pallada and Yannick (OT-580d, UV-351b) [10-Jan-22 05:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hmm, I remember very early on it was explained to me that A1C had the only shipyard. [10-Jan-22 05:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It could be that these others were built, or simply added by the devs during a patch [10-Jan-22 05:27 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Yeah. I found the other 3 when I played around with the planet data I downloaded from FIO. [11-Jan-22 04:40 AM] domicius#0000 So on KI-840c, i haven't got a full complement of Settlers despite the fact that there seem to be unemployed settlers about. I only have 41 out of 50 and this is bringing me (or rather my efficiency) down. Any ideas on how to resolve this? [11-Jan-22 07:19 AM] dasefx1#0000 only solution is to wait till next report ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Jan-22 09:23 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yep. One way to look at the situation is โ€œif the planet cannot fully supply my workforce, then I am getting as much as any player can get from the planet and contributing to its workforce growth in the processโ€ [12-Jan-22 05:03 PM] figaro0714#0000 Selling 8 ASE, and 4 ATA [12-Jan-22 09:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @figaro0714 can you hold on to those until this Friday? [12-Jan-22 09:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Earthling will buy them all, but needs to sell off some inventory first. It will take about 1 day. [12-Jan-22 11:52 PM] figaro0714#0000 @bitcoin_ape sure can [14-Jan-22 12:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @figaro0714 earthling will buy those today. 152k AIC for all of it, right? [15-Jan-22 12:55 PM] kharadan#0000 Joined the server. [15-Jan-22 12:56 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome! [15-Jan-22 12:56 PM] kharadan#0000 hello everyone {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–๏ธ (4) [15-Jan-22 12:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Where are your bases and what production buildings do they have? [15-Jan-22 12:58 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Kharadan! [15-Jan-22 12:59 PM] kharadan#0000 Just my starting base on Deimos - 5 BMPs - 2 PP1s - 3 PP2s - 4 SMEs - 1 COL {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [15-Jan-22 12:59 PM] kharadan#0000 I'm thinking to setup a base on Harmonia [15-Jan-22 12:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Good, looks like a solid start [15-Jan-22 12:59 PM] domicius#0000 Hi there [15-Jan-22 12:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Harmonia is excellent, we could use more food/agriculture/water bases there [15-Jan-22 01:00 PM] domicius#0000 [15-Jan-22 01:00 PM] domicius#0000 [15-Jan-22 01:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lol [15-Jan-22 01:00 PM] domicius#0000 ๐Ÿ‘‹ [15-Jan-22 01:01 PM] domicius#0000 Ok, so that's how that works... ๐Ÿ™ˆ [15-Jan-22 01:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i like the animated ones ๐Ÿ˜ [15-Jan-22 01:03 PM] kharadan#0000 let me know if there's a good way to cooperate, I'm mainly producing bfabs, PE, MCG [15-Jan-22 01:06 PM] insensless72#0000 How much PE and BDE do you have currently? [15-Jan-22 01:08 PM] kharadan#0000 almost nothing right now, but I make 4k PE a day, so on that front I can provide quite a lot in few days [15-Jan-22 01:09 PM] kharadan#0000 with bfabs I'm currently making what I need to settle Harmonie, so again, not much I can offer, but give it few days and I can share some [15-Jan-22 01:09 PM] figaro0714#0000 [15-Jan-22 01:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have alot of bfab and lfab production on Nike, but BDE is the only one that we are short on [15-Jan-22 01:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Nice! I am also on Deimos and Harmonia, and I specialize in fabs as well so if you need some help just let me know [15-Jan-22 01:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 LDE too because NL is difficult [15-Jan-22 01:10 PM] kharadan#0000 speaking about PE, do we have anyone on that GG in Antares 2, or any H producer? [15-Jan-22 01:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @dasefx1 [15-Jan-22 01:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also on Phobos we import some [15-Jan-22 01:11 PM] dasefx1#0000 antares II g you can request one day earlier full ship and collect next day [15-Jan-22 01:12 PM] kharadan#0000 awesome, thanks [15-Jan-22 01:12 PM] kharadan#0000 I'll be converting those to BDE, looks like that's what you need guys ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We also need carbon and consumables, both of which are options on harmonia [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] dasefx1#0000 @insensless72 if you need I had 100 BDE which I can sell ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] dasefx1#0000 on phobos [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] kharadan#0000 Nike would probably be the next base I would consider, but let's see if those plans would still make sense [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] dasefx1#0000 nike, phobos and harmonia all great planets ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] dasefx1#0000 like deimos ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we have HQ on Nike today or tomorrow, free 10% bonus for Nike bases in corp [15-Jan-22 01:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also we are collecting votes on Nike for political reasons ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:15 PM] kharadan#0000 do you plan to change CoGC, or "just" want to become governor? [15-Jan-22 01:16 PM] dasefx1#0000 cogc constrution is best on nike in my opinion ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Jan-22 01:16 PM] insensless72#0000 10hrs on the remaining 6 RDE. How much ea for BDE @dasefx1 {Reactions} โญ (2) [15-Jan-22 01:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We plan to keep cogc on construction, take governorship, and reduce tax [15-Jan-22 01:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 HQ bonus will stack with cogc and also provide +10% to everything else [15-Jan-22 01:17 PM] dasefx1#0000 @insensless72 800 p/u [15-Jan-22 01:18 PM] dasefx1#0000 on beginning I used a lot BDE, and always short, but currently totally opposite [15-Jan-22 01:20 PM] insensless72#0000 Id like 50 from you please! [15-Jan-22 01:20 PM] dasefx1#0000 sure put ad on phobos [15-Jan-22 01:20 PM] dasefx1#0000 nutrien should had 30 on nike [15-Jan-22 01:20 PM] dasefx1#0000 if you prefer nike [15-Jan-22 01:22 PM] insensless72#0000 Its okay Ill pick it up, Im 2 days away from 30 more FAL [15-Jan-22 01:22 PM] dasefx1#0000 excellent, let me know when ready [15-Jan-22 01:23 PM] dasefx1#0000 if someone need BDE, I always should have on phobos, and nutrien on nike ๐Ÿ˜‰ [15-Jan-22 05:06 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [15-Jan-22 11:40 PM] insensless72#0000 Congratulations guys! Our HQ is now up and running on Nike. next step, gov position @everyone {Reactions} ๐Ÿ›๏ธ (3) ๐Ÿ—๏ธ [15-Jan-22 11:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Confirmed the 10% boost!!! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/932147787590676480/unknown.png?ex=68150407&is=6813b287&hm=5043048fcda37756308f9a6b6bc57f29fd685f4e6c18da61c87b05aabcb3c2d4& [15-Jan-22 11:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone please refer all requests to join the corporation to myself or @insensless72 . We are tentatively accepting new members, but we want to avoid people who would dilute our shares and take advantage, now that we have real bonuses involved. [15-Jan-22 11:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 cool cats only, like you all. ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿฑ [15-Jan-22 11:54 PM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/932150699813396480/unknown.png?ex=681506bd&is=6813b53d&hm=6cfc13722db6eeb9a43d9f75d62656ab0c4b7eabbb4413548b3a8fe268321cff& [15-Jan-22 11:57 PM] colerror#0000 Also Tax Revenue should we get Governorship on Nike {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [15-Jan-22 11:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @colerror I have made an announcement on the UFO #๐Ÿšงnike-hq-general channel [15-Jan-22 11:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if there is no response tomorrow morning, we should @ every active non-corp player with a base on planet in a big message [16-Jan-22 12:00 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 announcing your running for governor [16-Jan-22 12:01 AM] colerror#0000 Which server is this? [16-Jan-22 12:02 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The public server for all players in game [16-Jan-22 12:02 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 https://discord.gg/4Vj5hNbC [16-Jan-22 12:03 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 you will want to go to the #access-request channel, and type the following (maybe more) [16-Jan-22 12:03 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 !join Nike !join Antares !join Phobos [16-Jan-22 12:07 AM] colerror#0000 Yep, I'm in [16-Jan-22 02:17 AM] domicius#0000 I guess its time to think about building a base on Nike! [16-Jan-22 02:17 AM] domicius#0000 Question - do rigs ALWAYS extract water? Even, say, on Phobos? [16-Jan-22 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 Also, heads up - Madnewmy is leaving the game and is selling up on a lot of planets. Good time to buy construction materials? [16-Jan-22 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/932195826233671690/Screenshot_20220116-085148_Chrome.jpg?ex=68148804&is=68133684&hm=c1b8cb4126d398b5cf5cc42bbb1b790fc286153ea839f5f85055d98154bbc866& [16-Jan-22 08:35 AM] insensless72#0000 Rigs, EXT, COL will only collect materials available on the planet theyre built on [16-Jan-22 08:36 AM] insensless72#0000 So yes, a rig would pull water on Phobos [16-Jan-22 09:11 AM] domicius#0000 Just FYI, I'm going to take a massive hit rep. Listed a bunch of items for Yarro to transfer, but put it under "sell" for 1 AIC instead of buy.... And someone picked them up. Im not gonna fulfill, obvs, so my rep will tank. Hopefully it'll pick up at some point... [16-Jan-22 09:14 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Let's hope it's not a huge hit. I'm not sure how exactly rep is calculated, but I had one breach and it didn't affect my rep at all. I think it depends on the amount breached and amount successfully provided in other contracts [16-Jan-22 09:14 AM] spatial_piano#0000 My breach was like 4k worth. [16-Jan-22 09:28 AM] domicius#0000 It was 5 contracts, worth 10s of thousands of AIC in materials. Hopefully doing lots of trades in corp might help. [16-Jan-22 09:29 AM] domicius#0000 Mind you, the buyer only paid 5 AIC ๐Ÿคฃ [16-Jan-22 09:30 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Yeah, it might be that you are dinged only for 5 AIC worth. But there is also the possibility that you are dinged once per cotract which could be bad [16-Jan-22 09:30 AM] domicius#0000 Oh well. Nothing I can do about it. [17-Jan-22 04:07 PM] namthorn#0000 Joined the server. [17-Jan-22 04:07 PM] insensless72#0000 [17-Jan-22 04:07 PM] namthorn#0000 [17-Jan-22 04:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome! [17-Jan-22 04:32 PM] dasefx1#0000 Welcome ๐Ÿ™ [17-Jan-22 07:07 PM] figaro0714#0000 [17-Jan-22 08:18 PM] artokun#0000 Joined the server. [17-Jan-22 08:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 [17-Jan-22 08:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome aboard [17-Jan-22 08:19 PM] artokun#0000 Ty! [17-Jan-22 08:22 PM] artokun#0000 how do I change my name? or is that one of you? Artokun | Artemis Metals [17-Jan-22 08:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The gear symbol on the bottom left. this opens user settings for the server [17-Jan-22 08:24 PM] insensless72#0000 [17-Jan-22 08:25 PM] artokun#0000 Got it i think? [17-Jan-22 08:25 PM] artokun#0000 yes [17-Jan-22 08:26 PM] insensless72#0000 Got it set up for you, welcome Artokun! [17-Jan-22 08:26 PM] artokun#0000 Thanks Insensless! [17-Jan-22 08:27 PM] insensless72#0000 I push GL through my PP2s on Nike, lmk when you need to get rid of some [17-Jan-22 10:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone excited to see our new members joining and making expansion plans in line with our strategic goals {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [17-Jan-22 10:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Please note that `Jarhead | Valor Industries` and `Warpstreetbets | Carbon Services` are inactive and expected to be deleted. Their shares will be removed. With current membership today, this makes us each 1/16 shareholders fully diluted. [18-Jan-22 05:13 AM] domicius#0000 [18-Jan-22 11:34 AM] spatial_piano#0000 [18-Jan-22 02:39 PM] figaro0714#0000 Taking orders for ASE and ATA. [18-Jan-22 05:39 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [20-Jan-22 04:40 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I'mma sue for tradeMARK infringement. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/933853441627938876/unknown.png?ex=6814a10a&is=68134f8a&hm=6838cab9b59a2d781b8fe838e334a4095fd7d6811e9247b8cb494e0106b410b7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (2) ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [20-Jan-22 04:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lol. this is how those law firms start. Mark, Mark & Mark space attorneys [20-Jan-22 08:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 seen this on #galactic-news in the UFO server https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufweZz0aH3u4HkBvi2CKWODOsDw0_AWAULzi1bMlXEY/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufweZz0aH3u4HkBvi2CKWODOsDw0_AWAULzi1bMlXEY/edit Project Protostar Report #??? Hello everybody! Delivererofdeath (MRF) here! This weekโ€™s entry for the progress on Project Protostar is going to be a slight deviation from the norm here, as Xenogenic has unfortunately quit the game before the contest officially ended. We havenโ€™t had an update for 4 weeks, so even though... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/a_8Bp3547irUbg28rnWXNtkj5YjS-8VN0HdT3EOM83A/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/65XK1sA2L97QmM2Dsjx2oX6ZGDpGCo6uzdlsFYj-0ABe_5ElmYb9qXL6P7XzLc17zz7K12pxgMLTng%3Dw1200-h630-p [20-Jan-22 08:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Seems like they have accomplished the outer-planets settling goal they made a long time ago. [20-Jan-22 08:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, unrelated, Supernova Foundries (SNF) have completed a FTL ship. [20-Jan-22 08:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/933908030523863070/unknown.png?ex=6814d3e1&is=68138261&hm=8659e884f2cd73347461007fbddb52c2603aad29aa8a4f558073a7c0727cb425& [20-Jan-22 08:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 probably more to come from them. [21-Jan-22 06:38 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Dang what a huge group. that is insane [22-Jan-22 11:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone here is my new canned response for randoms when trading/shipping on local markets. ``` Great! Thank you for choosing OOG. We are 100% antares-local. Your business directly supports the development of Phobos, Deimos, Nike, Harmonia, and more Antares area planets. ``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) [24-Jan-22 09:01 AM] rune_242#0000 Joined the server. [24-Jan-22 09:02 AM] insensless72#0000 [24-Jan-22 09:02 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! [24-Jan-22 09:02 AM] rune_242#0000 Thank you! [24-Jan-22 10:40 AM] rune_242#0000 What wil be the next infrastructure project? [24-Jan-22 11:00 AM] figaro0714#0000 [24-Jan-22 11:25 AM] rune_242#0000 Anybody selling DW? price is super high on antares station [24-Jan-22 11:31 AM] dasefx1#0000 I can sell 300 on phobos or 500 on harmonia [24-Jan-22 11:32 AM] rune_242#0000 harmonia pls [24-Jan-22 11:32 AM] rune_242#0000 And do you also sell RAT? [24-Jan-22 11:34 AM] dasefx1#0000 RAT I need to buy part from CX :/ [24-Jan-22 11:35 AM] dasefx1#0000 DW 40 p/u [24-Jan-22 11:35 AM] dasefx1#0000 let me know when you list it [24-Jan-22 11:35 AM] rune_242#0000 awesome [24-Jan-22 11:38 AM] rune_242#0000 I will buy more in a couple days [24-Jan-22 11:38 AM] dasefx1#0000 sure let me know, probably I will have more DW [24-Jan-22 11:39 AM] dasefx1#0000 if you want buy more now, and pay later, you can put 10 days contract and pay when you want ๐Ÿ˜‰ [24-Jan-22 11:39 AM] rune_242#0000 smart [24-Jan-22 11:39 AM] dasefx1#0000 for me no difference if cash today or later [24-Jan-22 11:41 AM] rune_242#0000 posted a new one [24-Jan-22 11:41 AM] dasefx1#0000 I think with mistake [24-Jan-22 11:41 AM] rune_242#0000 oww {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [24-Jan-22 11:42 AM] rune_242#0000 lol I just saw youre the guy I traded LSE with [24-Jan-22 11:43 AM] dasefx1#0000 true ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Jan-22 12:06 PM] domicius#0000 Im going to Benten to buy DW. It's half the price of A1X! [24-Jan-22 12:07 PM] domicius#0000 MCG same, but SF cheaper too. [24-Jan-22 12:07 PM] spatial_piano#0000 [24-Jan-22 02:11 PM] kharadan#0000 can you have more than 11 experts on a base? Maybe I'm, just not patient enough, but it looks like they stopped coming and I have quite a few industries there... [24-Jan-22 02:12 PM] dasefx1#0000 https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/ Efficiency factors :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [24-Jan-22 02:12 PM] dasefx1#0000 here you had all explained Mostly you can have up to 5 experts from one industry [24-Jan-22 02:12 PM] dasefx1#0000 but for 5th waiting time is quiet long [24-Jan-22 02:12 PM] kharadan#0000 I know the per industry limit [24-Jan-22 02:13 PM] kharadan#0000 but I couldn't find if there is also a global limit [24-Jan-22 02:13 PM] dasefx1#0000 no limit [24-Jan-22 02:13 PM] dasefx1#0000 I got 13 on phobos [24-Jan-22 02:13 PM] kharadan#0000 ok, then I'm just not patient enough ๐Ÿ™‚ thanks [24-Jan-22 06:09 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [25-Jan-22 01:16 PM] namthorn#0000 anyone got any idea how stability is calculated? My profit went down compared to the past 2 periods and somehow my stability rating went up [25-Jan-22 01:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think it is based partly on revenue growth and cash reserves [25-Jan-22 01:17 PM] namthorn#0000 hmm, gross revenue growth would make sense [25-Jan-22 01:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Frequently dipping to near zero cash, and producing or trading in ways that dont trigger โ€œrevenueโ€ events in game finances will work against your stability rating [25-Jan-22 01:18 PM] namthorn#0000 i always stick near zero cash xD [25-Jan-22 01:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 despite it being a very stable play style ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-Jan-22 01:18 PM] namthorn#0000 sub 2k most of the time [25-Jan-22 01:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea same here, and vertical production which messes up my revenue [25-Jan-22 01:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i was on C stability for like 7 months [25-Jan-22 01:19 PM] namthorn#0000 hmm, could be that i'm more horizontally built i guess [25-Jan-22 01:19 PM] namthorn#0000 only verticality are extractors [25-Jan-22 01:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you consume or build with the majority of your product, you miss on revenue [25-Jan-22 01:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 even though you are probably getting more value by using the items, it is not measurable [25-Jan-22 01:21 PM] namthorn#0000 makes sense, hopefully they'll do something to approximate value of produced goods like product average at time of creation to make the FIN buffers more readable [25-Jan-22 01:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yea this is a common complaint/suggestion [25-Jan-22 01:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I also am a proponent of your solution but the game devs have their priorities [25-Jan-22 01:23 PM] namthorn#0000 ye true. It's a minor thing I can keep track of outside the game not a major prio [25-Jan-22 04:52 PM] rune_242#0000 What times zone's do you all live in? [25-Jan-22 04:56 PM] dasefx1#0000 I am uk one [25-Jan-22 04:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 GMT -8 [25-Jan-22 04:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 same for Earthling and Airie I believe [25-Jan-22 04:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we also have one or two in GMT -6 and -5 [25-Jan-22 04:59 PM] rune_242#0000 so it's like 4pm for you? [25-Jan-22 05:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 3pm [25-Jan-22 05:00 PM] rune_242#0000 I'm dumb๐Ÿ˜… [25-Jan-22 05:01 PM] dasefx1#0000 @rune_242 and you? [25-Jan-22 05:01 PM] rune_242#0000 GMT +1 [25-Jan-22 05:06 PM] namthorn#0000 GMT here [25-Jan-22 06:10 PM] kharadan#0000 GMT +1 here as well [25-Jan-22 06:12 PM] domicius#0000 GMT here [25-Jan-22 06:13 PM] insensless72#0000 EST [25-Jan-22 06:14 PM] insensless72#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free. Create a new spreadsheet and edit with others at the same time -- from your computer, phone or tablet. Get stuff done with or without an internet connection. Use Sheets to edit Excel files. Free from Google. [25-Jan-22 06:15 PM] insensless72#0000 We have a running Corp sheet for those of you who did not know [25-Jan-22 09:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i will accept all access requests, or you can give me an email address to invite [25-Jan-22 09:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 equity 1 million ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [25-Jan-22 09:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/935735304898347038/unknown.png?ex=6814e229&is=681390a9&hm=5c4b3e4cfdb2ba7de3be4343cb64ad2f02f2291e1979e394d9ec7333f5959a6b& [26-Jan-22 01:01 AM] domicius#0000 Noice [26-Jan-22 05:15 AM] dasefx1#0000 STL ship built on antares c ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} โœˆ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿช (2) [26-Jan-22 05:26 AM] domicius#0000 Great for CX trips. [26-Jan-22 05:26 AM] dasefx1#0000 Exactly ๐Ÿ˜ [26-Jan-22 05:27 AM] dasefx1#0000 Probably I will create hub on ant cx to deliver there, and then send by stl ship to phobos or ant c [26-Jan-22 05:28 AM] domicius#0000 What's a hub? [26-Jan-22 05:30 AM] dasefx1#0000 Like medium storage in and out. So deliver all there first from all planets and than send to right planet [26-Jan-22 05:31 AM] dasefx1#0000 Ant is closes to deliver on ant 1 so also sf saving [26-Jan-22 05:31 AM] domicius#0000 I suppose. It depends on whether you're shipping to sell (from other systems) or shipping to feed the supply chain [26-Jan-22 05:32 AM] dasefx1#0000 Both, easier to redistribute consumables for sure. [26-Jan-22 05:33 AM] dasefx1#0000 Now part stock I had on phobos, part deimos, part ant c and part harmonia [26-Jan-22 05:34 AM] dasefx1#0000 So ship planning takes too much time now [26-Jan-22 04:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, everyone flies to ANT ๐Ÿ˜ [26-Jan-22 04:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 good meeting spot, as opposed to some planets where it could be inconvenient for some players to land [27-Jan-22 08:33 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Joined the server. [27-Jan-22 08:34 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [27-Jan-22 08:47 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, I'm new 'round these parts but @bitcoin_ape invited me to this awesome corp you have going. I see quite a few names that I've done contracts with so I'm looking forward to digging in! Only a few weeks in and I'm already hooked on the game lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (3) [27-Jan-22 09:06 AM] domicius#0000 Hello there! [27-Jan-22 09:07 AM] dasefx1#0000 Hi ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Jan-22 10:38 AM] figaro0714#0000 [27-Jan-22 11:40 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! [27-Jan-22 12:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @yjhasaday welcome aboard, we are happy to have fresh faces and more power on Phobos ๐Ÿ’ช [27-Jan-22 05:44 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [28-Jan-22 05:15 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Hey guys, any thoughts on this - I'm looking to expand with one of the following buildings (I'm in manufacturing/construction). Is there one that might help the corp's needs or that I should target as a new player? Weaving Plant (WPL), Glass Furnace (GF), Smelter (SME), Refinery (REF), or another Basic Materials Plant (BMP) [28-Jan-22 05:16 PM] insensless72#0000 Where are you setup currently? [28-Jan-22 05:31 PM] yjhasaday#0000 In Phobos [28-Jan-22 05:31 PM] yjhasaday#0000 But I'm thinking of starting a base on Nike to take advantage of the Corps HQ buff [28-Jan-22 05:35 PM] namthorn#0000 If you're going Nike then fab production is probably a good idea, there's good intracorp LST deals. If you're thinking phobos then WPL for NL to get the Lfab price down wouldn't go amiss imo [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @namthorn note that phobos is now electronics specialized. the manufacturing boost has moved to antares 1 c [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] namthorn#0000 Ah true [28-Jan-22 05:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 still valid to do manufacturing on phobos, but not quite so attractive these days [28-Jan-22 05:37 PM] namthorn#0000 Well if they have the manufacturing experts anyway then there's still something to be gained [28-Jan-22 05:37 PM] namthorn#0000 But I agree, that CoGC change really threw a spanner in the works [28-Jan-22 05:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lt was the best long term move, but certainly causing some short term disruption [28-Jan-22 05:38 PM] namthorn#0000 Especially for new folks that can't dream of getting electronics production up [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yea, agreed, i can see that being painful for a new player who just doubled down on manufacturing there [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] namthorn#0000 Ah now I remember, thats why I didn't settle phobos [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] namthorn#0000 Because there was news along that lone [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] namthorn#0000 Line* [28-Jan-22 05:39 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but the high tech industry does fuel low tech economy, and phobos is the only real choice for local high tech production [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] namthorn#0000 Still waiting for the SI/FS demand to pick up lol [28-Jan-22 05:40 PM] namthorn#0000 Doesn't appear to have done much for the wider economy as of yet imo [28-Jan-22 05:42 PM] namthorn#0000 I appreciate they are taxing electronics more and lowered manufacturing taxes, but it really doesn't help the bottom line for a lot of folk as of yet I think. [28-Jan-22 05:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Give it time! [28-Jan-22 05:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have seen SI orders moving on the LM, but not exactly high volumes [28-Jan-22 05:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think once the electronics bases are more fully built out on Phobos, the effects will become more visible [28-Jan-22 05:43 PM] dasefx1#0000 I played before reset and cx market for this was same shit [28-Jan-22 05:44 PM] dasefx1#0000 And it will be like that in ny opinion [28-Jan-22 05:44 PM] dasefx1#0000 Most things here go internal [28-Jan-22 05:44 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Yeah, I want to chill on Phobos for a bit still. I don't want to go too crazy with bfabs because I want to explore different industries with this universe. As far as I understand they will do another reset on full game release? Which means it would be cool to understand other industries when I start up next universe! [28-Jan-22 05:46 PM] dasefx1#0000 In my opinion on beginning best is always construction, biggest players start from own fabs.in the middle game chemical as well plus own consumables like dw and rat as this price never stable on cx {Reactions} โญ [28-Jan-22 05:46 PM] namthorn#0000 Full game release is a while off [28-Jan-22 05:46 PM] dasefx1#0000 On the end best is electronics as cx market makers like LOG, drones [28-Jan-22 05:47 PM] namthorn#0000 New universe would be an interesting proposition. I do wonder how people got going early in ANT [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 myself, earthling and insensless bootstrapped everything @namthorn [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] namthorn#0000 Nice [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we all started about 1-2 months in on this game [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but we were noobs ๐Ÿคฃ [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] namthorn#0000 Seems like its really tough going without easy access to LST/H [28-Jan-22 05:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 LST was covered very early by Lockreed [28-Jan-22 05:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 hydrogen wasโ€ฆ bad. [28-Jan-22 05:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Eventually we got access on KI-401d which is when i started going all in on polymer plants [28-Jan-22 05:50 PM] namthorn#0000 Oh ye, Ki 401d is a H printer, but it requires AEF and INS iirc [28-Jan-22 05:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes, Bob industries took the plunge there [28-Jan-22 05:50 PM] namthorn#0000 Which is super yikes [28-Jan-22 05:51 PM] namthorn#0000 Ye did a ton of shipping for him [28-Jan-22 05:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 AEF was manageable, but the argon situation was horrendous [28-Jan-22 05:51 PM] namthorn#0000 Got me going [28-Jan-22 05:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 use planet search to find the only planet with argon and no low temperature conditions. its hilarious. [28-Jan-22 05:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 all other argon planets require ins, so it is a chicken vs egg problem [28-Jan-22 05:54 PM] namthorn#0000 Ikr! Did some hypotheticals the other day figuring out what I would do in an early universe and the problems were numerous in ANT [28-Jan-22 05:54 PM] namthorn#0000 MOR was super easy in comparison [28-Jan-22 05:55 PM] namthorn#0000 No wonder its the most populous region [28-Jan-22 05:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yea, easy mode starter planets. [28-Jan-22 05:55 PM] namthorn#0000 It's like, ok i guess this is the sacrifice for a t1 AL planet? [28-Jan-22 05:58 PM] namthorn#0000 Made me realise MMs are necessary if we want region diversity [28-Jan-22 05:58 PM] namthorn#0000 Else every region needs a source of all basic resources [28-Jan-22 05:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It was playable, and collectively we took full advantage of our Phobos/Deimos/Nike/Harmonia network [28-Jan-22 05:59 PM] insensless72#0000 @yjhasaday If youre interested in expanding into different industries the Electronics specialization wouldnt be a bad idea and currently not really being produced in corp. With that being said there is demand for the product from any of the buildings you listed early [28-Jan-22 06:00 PM] namthorn#0000 There's a shortage of EXO rn if that qt all influences you [28-Jan-22 06:01 PM] namthorn#0000 GFs are prob better on Deimos because the production times are ungodly slow [28-Jan-22 06:01 PM] namthorn#0000 And SIO is cheap a f [28-Jan-22 06:03 PM] namthorn#0000 4 experts and CoGC and all lux is about 10.4h production times for GL [28-Jan-22 06:05 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Thank you! I will work towards Electronics because it seems like a cool late game goal. Perhaps the alternative late game goal would be to build ship parts/engines/etc? [28-Jan-22 06:06 PM] namthorn#0000 Ship parts are the late game yea [28-Jan-22 06:08 PM] namthorn#0000 If you want to go for electronics give us a shout, myself and others would prob be willing to divert production towards SI or other electronics related inputs given the demand. [28-Jan-22 06:08 PM] namthorn#0000 The CX demand just isn't there atm is the problem [28-Jan-22 06:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @yjhasaday the easiest route into electronics should be cleanroom. @dasefx1 is pretty knowledgeable here and is also our most advanced electronics player. You two should coordinate! [28-Jan-22 06:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Namthorn and Yaro are right though, it is difficult to get into electronics as a new player and the markets are behind the scenes/corporate internal [28-Jan-22 06:39 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also, electronics and shipbuilding are not mutually exclusive. FTL ships require advanced electronics which often require lower tier electronics themselves [28-Jan-22 06:50 PM] namthorn#0000 yea that's my main concern, no easy buyer if there's no orders lined up. [28-Jan-22 06:51 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Maybe it will be there once more people get to late game, I see all the talk of the planetary stuff and it looks like there's electronics involved in sustaining some of the buildings. So there might be some ongoing demand as planets get more buildings. Either way I'm a longgggggg way off from electronics so I'll let you know if I get there! [28-Jan-22 06:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ah, yes the micro headphones on Phobos [28-Jan-22 06:51 PM] namthorn#0000 yea, if you can find the buyers through chats it's likely a lucrative industry [28-Jan-22 06:52 PM] namthorn#0000 but that requires engaging the governors/buyers directly [28-Jan-22 06:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we need these to fund the library and university and this is needed for high tech workforce (scientists) [28-Jan-22 06:52 PM] namthorn#0000 we do have a governor laying around internally though... [28-Jan-22 06:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I can get anyone connected to an Antares area buyer. I have developed some amount of influence in this area ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-22 06:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 that doesnt mean I can guarantee a deal though. I can figure out which wealthy player is doing what. [28-Jan-22 11:10 PM] colerror#0000 Speaking of, I finally got some stuff to finish turning this BRM into SOI and PFI. Needed DW and RAT though, which are nuts, so I'm now broke ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Jan-22 12:01 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone need anything shipped from ANT CX? I have a ship here that is leaving in the next hour but is less than half full. I'm also planning a trip out to Nike/Deimos after it stops at Phobos to drop off its load. So I can take things from CX out to Nike/Deimos if you need something! [29-Jan-22 12:02 PM] kharadan#0000 I just posted an ad ANT > Deimos [29-Jan-22 12:07 PM] yjhasaday#0000 accepted! Still less than half full, I'll wait another 30 min to see if anyone else wants anything moved [29-Jan-22 12:14 PM] artokun#0000 Oh yes plz [29-Jan-22 12:15 PM] artokun#0000 I have a small shipment [29-Jan-22 12:15 PM] artokun#0000 I'll post something for Ant > Deimos [29-Jan-22 12:16 PM] insensless72#0000 @yjhasaday Do you have room for 120t? [29-Jan-22 12:16 PM] insensless72#0000 After Artokun ^ [29-Jan-22 12:16 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Yes [29-Jan-22 12:16 PM] yjhasaday#0000 about 260t and 300 m3 [29-Jan-22 12:18 PM] insensless72#0000 I posted on Deimos [29-Jan-22 12:29 PM] artokun#0000 I posted too 1t 10m3 [29-Jan-22 12:32 PM] yjhasaday#0000 @artokun something went wrong, I accepted but now the contract just says "closed" and won't let me pick up your package [29-Jan-22 12:33 PM] artokun#0000 i forgot to provision [29-Jan-22 12:33 PM] yjhasaday#0000 there we go, got it! [29-Jan-22 12:33 PM] artokun#0000 it's my first time shipping something! [29-Jan-22 12:33 PM] yjhasaday#0000 haha no worries [31-Jan-22 10:35 AM] dasefx1#0000 anyone had RG or GL for sale ? [31-Jan-22 11:49 AM] namthorn#0000 yea I have 100 GL on Deimos [31-Jan-22 11:52 AM] dasefx1#0000 great what price [31-Jan-22 11:52 AM] dasefx1#0000 and I will list [31-Jan-22 01:39 PM] namthorn#0000 Sorry, had to rush out unexpectedly. Will be 150/u. I'll pick them up when I get back. [31-Jan-22 02:00 PM] dasefx1#0000 listedd thanks [01-Feb-22 04:38 AM] domicius#0000 Ok, who crashed the universe? [01-Feb-22 06:02 AM] namthorn#0000 wow, BSE hit the MM price. Get your sales in now I guess! [01-Feb-22 09:48 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh nice, ive been waiting for a moment like this [01-Feb-22 02:11 PM] dasefx1#0000 I had extra cash, if someone had LSE, LDE, RG, GL, PE, RCO I will buy with pleasure ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Feb-22 02:34 PM] kharadan#0000 1k PE on Nike for sale for 5 a piece [01-Feb-22 02:35 PM] dasefx1#0000 @kharadan listed thanks [01-Feb-22 04:27 PM] namthorn#0000 I always have GL to trade, what are you using it for out of curiosity? [01-Feb-22 05:54 PM] dasefx1#0000 For LTA, I need to make reserve. I can take all what you have ๐Ÿ˜‰ [01-Feb-22 06:34 PM] namthorn#0000 ah kk, well i make 40 GL/d on Deimos, happy to send it all your way for a while if you like. [02-Feb-22 03:26 AM] dasefx1#0000 @namthorn when you have around 200 for sale, let me know and I will take all ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Feb-22 04:26 AM] namthorn#0000 sure [02-Feb-22 05:39 AM] kharadan#0000 I'm thinking to make a C run to Hortus. The only obstacle is my lack of ICA. Does anyone have ICA they would exchange for AIC? Looking for about 50k [02-Feb-22 07:36 AM] dasefx1#0000 very hard to buy ICA, I tried few times without results, and in my opinion C is too heavy to go to hortus. RAT, DW, COF, CAF, maybe worth it, but for sure not C [02-Feb-22 07:39 AM] kharadan#0000 The savings are not that big, agree you're probably right [02-Feb-22 07:43 AM] dasefx1#0000 I had once crazy idea, that I bought 1000 ICA, and rented warehouse on hortus, and listed 5 x 100 CAF to buy in AIC, after some time one contract took, I paid, and next day my partner make coliq ( he had 250 days long account, and good ratings) . So I end doing business on Hortus ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Feb-22 07:45 AM] kharadan#0000 Ah, yes, you mentioned that one before :) I did some good business there, but at the moment I don't have anything to ship there and sell for ICA. Almost all I produce I use, or I already have a buyer [02-Feb-22 07:45 AM] dasefx1#0000 I think better to do business locally ๐Ÿ˜‰ [02-Feb-22 08:52 AM] domicius#0000 Hi, if anyone wants water from Benten (currently around the 48 CIS to 50 CIS mark) then send me some CIS and I'll ship to ANT1 for you. Shipping out tomorrow lots of room to ship, but don't have enough currency to prebuy much [02-Feb-22 07:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @domicius I know we talked about this, but then I went and got myself into this situation. [02-Feb-22 07:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/938608899349700618/unknown.png?ex=6814ca68&is=681378e8&hm=26dd795d3810654fba42d5d063d61215c4aad0aa84c5436b9a436f52c02f9d6e& [02-Feb-22 07:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wish I could take you up on the H2O offer [03-Feb-22 12:10 AM] domicius#0000 I can swap for LST - also I meant DW just to be clear. Also also I've got another ship in Benten making another run (because actually EVERYTHING is cheaper on Benten) so it's not too late! 1 [03-Feb-22 12:16 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 happy to swap LST, i regularly bring it to Phobos [03-Feb-22 12:25 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 and yes, I need H2O or DW for the same reasons. Let me know how much LST and when on Phobos, ill make sure it gets delivered [03-Feb-22 11:13 AM] domicius#0000 Ill swap 183 LST for 200 DW on Phobos or 140 DW on Nike at current rates. Its all becoming veeu expensive! [03-Feb-22 11:15 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 sounds good to me. I need DW in both places, Plan whatever delivery works for you and then ill transfer the LST at that location. Im happy to work with increments of 183 LST [03-Feb-22 11:44 AM] domicius#0000 Ok, 200DW on Phobos in a day. [03-Feb-22 01:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will need ~2 days for a round trip to Nike, but the flights are already in motion. [04-Feb-22 08:02 AM] domicius#0000 Great. I have a second 200DW load for you already on the way, so you can just keep it coming. Im running H from AI1 to CI1, and items back [05-Feb-22 07:15 AM] dasefx1#0000 COGC built on LI planet ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Feb-22 08:33 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 nice work! [05-Feb-22 09:41 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hello @everyone , it is likely that you have seen this notification: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/939546306383339560/unknown.png?ex=6814e7af&is=6813962f&hm=cc04944ffdf053e9447ddaf5a86dca5c8aaefcc44ed02cdc5f7d8688fc49e81b& [05-Feb-22 09:42 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This was Jarhead | Valor Industries, who went inactive several months ago. This was the accout being auto-deleted. He was an earlier member that we picked up as a new player and invested in carbon production {Reactions} โšฐ๏ธ (3) ๐Ÿชฆ (2) [05-Feb-22 09:43 AM] domicius#0000 That explains our recent carbon crunch. [05-Feb-22 09:43 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea, it has been something of a slow burn. This happened with another player as well [05-Feb-22 09:43 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also carbon. [05-Feb-22 09:51 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 molp spotted in game!! [05-Feb-22 09:51 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/939548811024547920/unknown.png?ex=6814ea04&is=68139884&hm=8ab7fa37d779626d9c806e240802524fe1b45a91bdb321f85743e57404278db3& [05-Feb-22 09:51 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 in ZV-194 space, no less [05-Feb-22 09:53 AM] yjhasaday#0000 what is molp? [05-Feb-22 09:54 AM] dasefx1#0000 molp is major developer of prun. On last universe he had base on umbra, and I was buying THF regularly from him heh [05-Feb-22 10:00 AM] domicius#0000 If you've seen the tutorial videos, you've see. molp, i think [05-Feb-22 10:08 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Ah, yes. That makes sense [05-Feb-22 11:09 AM] sackless_jack#0000 Does anyone here make drinking water, basic rations or Flux, and wants to sell? [05-Feb-22 11:10 AM] kharadan#0000 I'm making DW and RAT, but you would have to make a pickup at Harmonia [05-Feb-22 11:12 AM] sackless_jack#0000 I could do that. How much of each are you willing to sell? I'm looking to stock up, because buying a little at a time is annoying [05-Feb-22 11:12 AM] kharadan#0000 depend when you'd be there ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Feb-22 11:13 AM] kharadan#0000 currently, I can offer 450 RAT and 300 DW [05-Feb-22 11:14 AM] sackless_jack#0000 Cool, I'll send a ship over and by the time I will have arrived will be after I sell my AL so I can buy lots! [05-Feb-22 11:14 AM] kharadan#0000 sure, let me know when you're there [05-Feb-22 11:15 AM] kharadan#0000 I may even ask you to take shipment back to Deimos for me if you'll not clear me out completely ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Feb-22 11:15 AM] sackless_jack#0000 I can do that ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Feb-22 11:17 AM] artokun#0000 @kharadan I'll buy whatever Airie doesn't buy [05-Feb-22 11:17 AM] kharadan#0000 don't you have your own base there? ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Feb-22 11:18 AM] artokun#0000 It's just now today producing regularly now that all the raw production is in full swing [05-Feb-22 11:21 AM] kharadan#0000 let's see how the numbers will work, I have to feed my own people as well and I'll be settling Nike on Monday so that will further dilute my existing supply [05-Feb-22 11:23 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We could supply you with BFABs on loan when you get to Nike, to bring back to harmonia for some quick RIG + FP or whatever you need most out there [05-Feb-22 11:24 AM] kharadan#0000 I'm good, thanks my Harmonia base is already fully developed, 1 unit of area left. Maybe I'll still spend some time tuning the recipes, but for now it's as far as raw materials can get it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Feb-22 02:00 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I'm now selling FF@11 and SF@8. I take orders at Phobos and Nike. 10 full tanks available of both at Phobos. {Reactions} โ›ฝ (3) [05-Feb-22 02:03 PM] spatial_piano#0000 On nike there's 5k of SF currently and I'll ship 3k of both fuels there soon. [05-Feb-22 02:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone see above! ๐Ÿš€ [05-Feb-22 02:35 PM] dasefx1#0000 I can take FF what will be left on Phobos ๐Ÿ™‚ as I like to have good reserve ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Feb-22 02:35 PM] dasefx1#0000 but first others ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Feb-22 03:01 PM] allocater#0000 Joined the server. [05-Feb-22 03:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 [05-Feb-22 03:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome to OOG! [05-Feb-22 03:01 PM] spatial_piano#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:01 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:04 PM] allocater#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:26 PM] artokun#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:43 PM] insensless72#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Allocator! [05-Feb-22 04:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Allocator is a farmer on Harmonia [05-Feb-22 04:57 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [05-Feb-22 04:58 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome! [05-Feb-22 07:40 PM] figaro0714#0000 [05-Feb-22 08:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 @megasaberexe Well, server issues [05-Feb-22 08:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 local markets are not loading for me, but production lines and inventories are working [05-Feb-22 08:47 PM] insensless72#0000 Same [05-Feb-22 08:47 PM] megasaberexe#0000 This do be molp moment.... ๐Ÿ˜” [05-Feb-22 08:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 hes offline though.. shit [05-Feb-22 08:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 maybe it will recover itself. I will check back in 10 minutes or so [05-Feb-22 08:50 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh wait it's back! [05-Feb-22 08:50 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Hooray! [05-Feb-22 08:52 PM] insensless72#0000 Nike LM still wont load for me.. [05-Feb-22 08:52 PM] insensless72#0000 There we go! [05-Feb-22 08:53 PM] insensless72#0000 Ready for ads @megasaberexe [05-Feb-22 08:53 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Roger that Insensless, it's the list that DLR gave me right? [05-Feb-22 08:54 PM] insensless72#0000 Yes the bfabs, I dont have any BTA currently though [05-Feb-22 08:54 PM] insensless72#0000 He'll cover you on those [05-Feb-22 08:55 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I'm also talking to figaro, so maybe them too. But anyway give me a sec to prepare the first ad [05-Feb-22 08:55 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay ready, posting the first one @insensless72 [05-Feb-22 08:56 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Okay posting the rest right now [05-Feb-22 08:59 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Sweet, to future trades @insensless72 ๐Ÿค {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (2) [06-Feb-22 08:54 AM] insensless72#0000 I need to purchase some BTA from someone. looking for 10 of them [06-Feb-22 08:54 AM] insensless72#0000 I also need 500 MCG [06-Feb-22 08:59 AM] dasefx1#0000 BTA I can produce for you on deimos for tomorrow morning {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [06-Feb-22 09:00 AM] insensless72#0000 We can do ad if you want [06-Feb-22 09:00 AM] dasefx1#0000 you can list, and maybe it will be 9pm uk time if I check right [06-Feb-22 09:01 AM] dasefx1#0000 today [06-Feb-22 09:01 AM] insensless72#0000 BTA is not on the sheet, what is your price? [06-Feb-22 09:02 AM] dasefx1#0000 if I remember in corp we exchange for 500 p/u [06-Feb-22 09:08 AM] insensless72#0000 @everyone I spent some time last night messing with our discord settings. I created "roles" for each planet and assigned each player to each role based on which planets you are located on (to the best of my knowledge.) This will allow us to @here or @Nike for example and only the players on that planet or assigned to that "role" will get the message. Ideally this will keep every person from getting a message when two people are talking about local trades. It works by posting in a planet chat with the @ insert planet name. It should not affect the ability to see or post in any channel. If that is not the case, let me know so I can change it immediately {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [06-Feb-22 09:10 AM] dasefx1#0000 great ๐Ÿ™‚ [06-Feb-22 05:05 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Nice work Insensless [07-Feb-22 01:14 AM] kharadan#0000 well, I didn't realize I need to upgrade my HQ to build a third base, so my base on Nike will have some delay damn... [07-Feb-22 01:20 AM] domicius#0000 We can all pitch in some material I'm sure. [07-Feb-22 01:23 AM] kharadan#0000 I think I should manage by tomorrow, thanks it's just my own stupidity [07-Feb-22 09:02 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, I have a business partner on Phobos who has inquired about our corp. He's interested in joining if we're recruiting so I told him I would ask. He's a farmer that supplies me my RAT and DW on Phobos, he's informed me he has 8 Rigs, 5 FRM, and 3 FP on Phobos. His in-game name is Cazertanu, company is CAZ-Dynamics (CAZD). Let me know! (I understand he'll need to join Discord for a while before sending an in-game invite) [07-Feb-22 09:05 AM] domicius#0000 @bitcoin_ape [07-Feb-22 09:28 AM] dasefx1#0000 I trade few times with CAZ, never speak with him. I think best to invite him on discord ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Feb-22 02:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @yjhasaday I will talk to CAZ today and invite him to the discord. Thanks for the recommendaton! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [09-Feb-22 10:16 AM] yjhasaday#0000 FYI all, someone put up OVE at grossly under price at ANT CX, pick them up if you need. I already bought some and I make them myself lol maybe I'll bring some out to Deimos/Nike next time I bring a ship out {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [09-Feb-22 11:27 AM] allocater#0000 thanks, got 23 [09-Feb-22 11:45 AM] namthorn#0000 i nabbed 100, if anyone on deimos wants some i'll be bringing them back tomorrow [09-Feb-22 11:58 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Looks like our corp got pretty much all of them! I threw mine back on the market for profits, but I do have some OVE on Phobos if anyone needs [09-Feb-22 02:46 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi everyone, @dasefx1 has been kind enough to provide me with a loan to start the carbon base on Deimos. I've committed to starting it up in 8 days and will be working on Bfabs to bring along with me. I'll need your help with the CM though so I'm hoping to get prices from you of things that I can buy off you from the below shopping list: [09-Feb-22 02:46 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I'm willing to head to Nike, Deimos or Phobos to pick up BBH LSE LDE LTA TRU PSL [09-Feb-22 02:47 PM] spatial_piano#0000 I have PSLs [09-Feb-22 02:48 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Right on, price and location? [09-Feb-22 02:50 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Phobos. PSLs are at current price 1200. [09-Feb-22 02:50 PM] spatial_piano#0000 PSL price is actually very low currently [09-Feb-22 03:02 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Already picked those up off Yaro [09-Feb-22 03:50 PM] namthorn#0000 I can do the LTA and BBH on Deimos [09-Feb-22 03:55 PM] namthorn#0000 LTA I can do 1300/u BBH 800/u [09-Feb-22 04:36 PM] cazertanu3330#0000 Joined the server. [09-Feb-22 04:37 PM] cazertanu#0000 Joined the server. [09-Feb-22 04:37 PM] insensless72#0000 [09-Feb-22 04:38 PM] cazertanu#0000 hello [09-Feb-22 04:38 PM] cazertanu#0000 [09-Feb-22 04:38 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Cazertanu [09-Feb-22 04:38 PM] insensless72#0000 How much of each do you need? [09-Feb-22 04:38 PM] domicius#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hello-dinosally-hi-hey-hola-gif-24232247 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hello-dinosally-hi-hey-hola-gif-24232247 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FID8fesJAloXsbio0kkd4-LWK9TJh85zbpS8ell82p4/https/media.tenor.co/images/cbda2c0071529c7ddceddea1689d1047/tenor.png [09-Feb-22 04:42 PM] cazertanu#0000 hi i am based on Phobos. i make C, RAT, and DW with 5 farms, 4 food procesors, 8 rigs, and 1 incinerator {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [09-Feb-22 04:43 PM] yjhasaday#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Feb-22 04:47 PM] domicius#0000 Yay! Our ration problems are over! [09-Feb-22 04:53 PM] cazertanu#0000 i need another hab1 for incoming rigs my rigs [09-Feb-22 05:42 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [09-Feb-22 08:22 PM] figaro0714#0000 [09-Feb-22 08:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @cazertanu You have what we need! Happy to have you aboard. [09-Feb-22 08:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think you will be our 12th OOG base on Phobos, there is lots of business opportunity here. [09-Feb-22 10:10 PM] colerror#0000 Can I get 10 BSE and 3 BBH from somewhere? I really need to watch my buildings better [09-Feb-22 10:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 where do you need it? [09-Feb-22 10:50 PM] colerror#0000 Need it on Phobos, but have no problems picking up on Nike [09-Feb-22 11:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have 7 BSE and 3 BBH on Phobos right now @colerror [09-Feb-22 11:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 you can have all of those at the normal price of 600 and 800, good luck on the last 3 BSE [09-Feb-22 11:04 PM] colerror#0000 Thanks, both posted [11-Feb-22 09:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Finally got my 5th chemistry expert on Phobos! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [11-Feb-22 09:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/941892802797793350/unknown.png?ex=6814df47&is=68138dc7&hm=e37d62f7900291b82b920b12693c11c0cc4f78090778260ed423c8692aae9d5b& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ”ฌ (2) [12-Feb-22 10:03 AM] dasefx1#0000 tomorrow I will have more than 40 AEF for sale 1700 p/u and around 20 HSE 7500 p/u [14-Feb-22 01:14 AM] allocater#0000 I made a mod that puts icons on items and changes the color scheme: PrUnIcon v0.5 Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/YTcUE6P Download: https://pastebin.com/ycPBY1zs {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/YTcUE6P PrUnIcon v0.5 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FGL2DuEs3YGcmUZcOfd5DAhPgaD1paoBTr_QT_YwWVs/https/i.imgur.com/4F393b0h.jpg {Embed} https://pastebin.com/ycPBY1zs PrUnIcon v0.5 - Pastebin.com Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ (4) [14-Feb-22 01:57 AM] domicius#0000 Hey that looks cute. [14-Feb-22 10:23 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Nice! Being able to change the colors is probably a common request following this update [14-Feb-22 11:57 AM] allocater#0000 haha, yeah the new colors "inspired" me to do this ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Feb-22 05:35 AM] dasefx1#0000 anyone had NG for sale ? [17-Feb-22 06:00 AM] namthorn#0000 nah, there's never any NCS on the CX, otherwise i'd make some occasionally. [17-Feb-22 06:06 AM] dasefx1#0000 I can bring you some from Phobos [17-Feb-22 06:58 AM] namthorn#0000 sure [17-Feb-22 07:02 AM] dasefx1#0000 tommorw I can have 300 [17-Feb-22 07:04 AM] namthorn#0000 yea 300 would work, i reckon i could burn through 20 a day while keeping self-sufficient on GL so that would keep me going for a couple of weeks. [17-Feb-22 07:06 AM] namthorn#0000 what price? i'll put a buy up on deimos LM [17-Feb-22 07:16 AM] dasefx1#0000 11.5 is fine ๐Ÿ™‚ [17-Feb-22 07:18 AM] namthorn#0000 ad up: LMA ZV-759c/16096 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Feb-22 07:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyoneit seems I have caused some confusion with my LFAB prices. My supply is limited, and in the past these prices were to stimulate OOG base building at my own expense. [17-Feb-22 07:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think 2000 per LSE is not sustainable, and likely loses money for many producers. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [17-Feb-22 07:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but I was happy to sell at that price, and now we will all benefit (directly and indirectly) from the new OOG bases that were built. [17-Feb-22 07:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we will continue with the fixed BFAB prices, but I dont want to cause a mess with too much price fixing, especially on more expensive items. [18-Feb-22 12:14 AM] domicius#0000 Hey, i just bought 5 loads of LST from the corp. If anyone needs any, let me know and I'll sell it back [18-Feb-22 12:36 AM] domicius#0000 Also, just thought I'd add this, I never buy commodities in order to sell on or speculate. I only buy in order to produce more goods. On my case MCG [18-Feb-22 03:18 AM] cazertanu#0000 Good plan @domicius . I will do the same. [18-Feb-22 04:45 AM] dasefx1#0000 I think we can set up together all corp fabs pricing to be same all time ? [18-Feb-22 07:41 AM] cazertanu#0000 Yaro, you bring up an intriguing goal. I think an important step towards that is finding a way to show all of our imports and exports organized by planet and by player. I imagine this will need spreadsheets and flowcharts. [18-Feb-22 07:43 AM] cazertanu#0000 What do you think of putting this info in one place? [18-Feb-22 07:56 AM] dasefx1#0000 fully agree [18-Feb-22 02:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @here Local market and warehouse completed on KI-401b! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/944331777021976616/unknown.png?ex=68152d00&is=6813db80&hm=649f57f4c0db5ee9b75302dc66ee4f8c935617c815d9570408539f4f66a7671c& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [18-Feb-22 02:37 PM] dasefx1#0000 good job ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Feb-22 02:40 PM] domicius#0000 @bitcoin_ape i think youve done something with channels and my name appears in white? [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] domicius#0000 Because of the Nike channel [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I thought your name was always white? [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] domicius#0000 Niet tovarich [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] domicius#0000 Yours appears red because you're a mod [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] domicius#0000 Yaro is also white [18-Feb-22 02:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh i thought it was because im cool. [18-Feb-22 02:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 technically owns the discord server. Maybe I have admin powers to change colors too [18-Feb-22 02:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 perhaps @dasefx1 should be gold since he is now rebranding as Yorkshire Bank {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [18-Feb-22 02:43 PM] dasefx1#0000 hehe @bitcoin_ape enough if you create me bank channel ๐Ÿ˜„ and I can update balance there ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Feb-22 02:45 PM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/944333821925543998/Screenshot_20220218-224506_Google.jpg?ex=68148628&is=681334a8&hm=e333fdedfc6b17421003b2334ea3260cf0ff198fca668d6c76c7523ed0544f56& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [18-Feb-22 02:45 PM] dasefx1#0000 heheh [18-Feb-22 02:45 PM] domicius#0000 Its great tea too! [18-Feb-22 02:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ooh i see how the name colors work now [18-Feb-22 02:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 so, the roles are server wide and users can be assigned to them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Feb-22 02:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but the roles are in a list with "moderator" locked at the top. The username takes the color of the highest "ranked" role in the list [18-Feb-22 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Nike is the highest ranked planet, and most of us are on nike, so we mostly have white names due to that. [18-Feb-22 03:02 PM] insensless72#0000 The roles are set up as planets. Each planet had a different color, but since Nike has our HQ I assigned everyone to Nike as well. Since Nike was the highest ranked role behind moderators Everyones name appeared white {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [18-Feb-22 03:03 PM] insensless72#0000 Blue is now Governor, and yellow is Banker [18-Feb-22 03:03 PM] insensless72#0000 Obviously Red is Moderator but I only assigned that one to you @bitcoin_ape as you are our fearless leader {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [19-Feb-22 04:26 AM] kharadan#0000 @dasefx1 could I get a shipload of H? [19-Feb-22 04:58 AM] dasefx1#0000 sure [19-Feb-22 04:58 AM] dasefx1#0000 let me know when you online and I will list H [19-Feb-22 04:59 AM] kharadan#0000 let's do it, I'm watching A2g LM [19-Feb-22 05:00 AM] dasefx1#0000 listed [19-Feb-22 05:01 AM] kharadan#0000 got it, thanks [20-Feb-22 05:35 AM] kharadan#0000 is there a way to search planets by CoGC program? [20-Feb-22 05:37 AM] dasefx1#0000 yes in https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch, you tick in planet settings Chamber of Commerce, and it will show all planets with COGC. It is not a lot, so you can check manually [20-Feb-22 05:37 AM] domicius#0000 Ive switched to a dark theme.... That works! [20-Feb-22 05:39 AM] kharadan#0000 thanks ๐Ÿ™‚ [20-Feb-22 07:25 AM] kapusta0577#0000 Joined the server. [20-Feb-22 07:26 AM] kapusta0577#0000 [20-Feb-22 07:27 AM] kapusta0577#0000 hi [20-Feb-22 07:27 AM] dasefx1#0000 Welcome ๐Ÿ˜„ @bitcoin_ape please join kapusta to shipbulding channel ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Feb-22 07:29 AM] dasefx1#0000 @kapusta0577 is my friend from AHI corp, he is building with me STL ships, and we will build together with our corp FTL ships ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Feb-22 11:22 AM] allocater#0000 [20-Feb-22 11:22 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome @kapusta0577 [20-Feb-22 11:32 AM] domicius#0000 Hello! [20-Feb-22 12:09 PM] figaro0714#0000 [20-Feb-22 09:10 PM] cazertanu#0000 Welcome [21-Feb-22 06:09 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [22-Feb-22 09:51 AM] dasefx1#0000 https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-5/4187/4 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-5/4187/4 Name THAT Planet Round 5 Unnamed Populated Planets: Including naming suggestions. In descending order of population. Shortened list. Click triangles to open each section of the list: 1 - 10ZV-307c (Shipyard, Manufacturing COGC) VH-331f (H AMM) VH-043e (HE3) OT-442h (H) YI-280d (LIO TIO LES) QQ-001a (FEO HAL) Eli (Solstone Name THAT Planet Round 5 - #10 by Solst... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿช [22-Feb-22 09:51 AM] dasefx1#0000 vote for antares I c ZV-307c ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Feb-22 05:33 PM] insensless72#0000 LG-913 is in the lead, ZV-307c is in 2nd [23-Feb-22 12:38 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i voted! Although I think LG will win [23-Feb-22 01:11 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 caught this on my work laptop earlier: ```~ $ date -R Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:22:22 -0800``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [23-Feb-22 01:27 AM] domicius#0000 ZV-307c is in the lead now - just voted [26-Feb-22 12:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the game is down! [26-Feb-22 12:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the game is up! [26-Feb-22 02:53 PM] domicius#0000 https://tenor.com/view/rollercoaster-roller-coaster-ride-gif-14896128 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/rollercoaster-roller-coaster-ride-gif-14896128 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/fAgHVmYceIxhjVJYdU52s57espK2bj8dmAF03S65yrg/https/media.tenor.co/images/60266647c65b7cf991cdf319c5c535f1/tenor.png [27-Feb-22 03:20 PM] allocater#0000 I have to launch my ship {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/947604221463769178/unknown.png?ex=68148e74&is=68133cf4&hm=f1510cc403c541649861276f9b019dbef34a5be0920f042a8921694a304e69ee& [28-Feb-22 07:34 AM] kharadan#0000 @dasefx1 I put up an ad for H and I'd be making a roundtrip to get one more right after that if it's alright. Is there anything I can bring you to A2g? [28-Feb-22 07:57 AM] dasefx1#0000 Filled. I had stock there for 20 days [28-Feb-22 07:59 AM] kharadan#0000 Thanks [28-Feb-22 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 game is down for me. again. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข [28-Feb-22 02:52 PM] kharadan#0000 must be that new snapshotting {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ธ [28-Feb-22 02:54 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 10 minute warning would be nice [04-Mar-22 07:57 AM] spatial_piano#0000 @dasefx1 I'm coming to ANT II g to buy 500H. Are you there to make a contract? [04-Mar-22 07:58 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I have to leave, but we can make the contract tomorrow. [04-Mar-22 08:03 AM] dasefx1#0000 I am here [04-Mar-22 08:03 AM] dasefx1#0000 @spatial_piano listed [04-Mar-22 09:33 AM] spatial_piano#0000 Thanks [07-Mar-22 11:14 AM] kharadan#0000 anyone wants anything from BEN? if not, I'll just load a ship full of cheap C... [07-Mar-22 12:12 PM] allocater#0000 If you go to ANT you could buy: 10 S 30 THF 20 FIM and 1500+ SF selling that and buying C in ANT would give more C I think [07-Mar-22 12:20 PM] kharadan#0000 Thanks for a tip. S I can sell you locally on Deimos. The rest I can get you from BEN if you like [07-Mar-22 12:21 PM] allocater#0000 ah I don't need I just saw the margins are 20%+ for that on ANT [07-Mar-22 12:21 PM] allocater#0000 someone is buying S for 300 ๐Ÿ˜… [07-Mar-22 12:22 PM] kharadan#0000 I see. Ok, I'll look into it and see what makes most sense, thanks [11-Mar-22 03:24 PM] spatial_piano#0000 SF price is spiking hard. Have some refiners quit, or something? The demand is high today, but overall there doesn't seem to be an increase in demand. [11-Mar-22 03:24 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Or are people shifting to FF? [11-Mar-22 03:25 PM] allocater#0000 Moria hit the MM yesterday too [11-Mar-22 03:53 PM] namthorn#0000 I think it's just a blip, there's been like 20k traded in the past few days. [11-Mar-22 05:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Friday spike? [11-Mar-22 05:51 PM] namthorn#0000 Something like that, if stock isn't refilled in the next week we might have a problem. But for now its fine imo. [12-Mar-22 10:01 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hello everyone! finally I have some time this weekend to play PU {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (3) ๐Ÿฅณ ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Mar-22 10:23 AM] domicius#0000 Send LST! [12-Mar-22 10:37 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 to phobos? I can do that by tomorrow [12-Mar-22 01:20 PM] yang_mills#0000 Joined the server. [12-Mar-22 01:21 PM] yang_mills#0000 [12-Mar-22 01:21 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! [12-Mar-22 01:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome @yang_mills [12-Mar-22 01:21 PM] yang_mills#0000 Hello! I am Yang_Mills from Baryonic Technologies (BARY). [12-Mar-22 01:22 PM] allocater#0000 [12-Mar-22 01:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Hello! Welcome to OOG, we are a pretty diverse corporation with players on many planets. You will notice channels to the left in which players are located on and you can communicate through [12-Mar-22 01:25 PM] insensless72#0000 You are primarily Phobos with ties to Deimos and Harmonia correct? [12-Mar-22 01:26 PM] yang_mills#0000 My largest base is on Phobos, and I have a small base on Deimos extracting resources. I plan to open next week my 3rd base on Harmonia. I am in a rush to do it before the Steam release on April. [12-Mar-22 01:27 PM] yang_mills#0000 Because after the release on Steam Harmonia might become full with new players. [12-Mar-22 01:28 PM] insensless72#0000 Peep our Nike channel, i have a screenshot of available fabs for purchase [12-Mar-22 01:28 PM] insensless72#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free. Create a new spreadsheet and edit with others at the same time -- from your computer, phone or tablet. Get stuff done with or without an internet connection. Use Sheets to edit Excel files. Free from Google. [12-Mar-22 01:28 PM] insensless72#0000 This is our corporate spreadsheet. You can update your base layout and check out corporate prices on materials you may need [12-Mar-22 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We would be happy to supply BFABs from Nike at low rates, and long payment dates [12-Mar-22 01:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this is standard practice, especially for harmonia bases. In the past we have had trouble with RAT and DW, we found this policy is the best way to deal with that [12-Mar-22 01:30 PM] yang_mills#0000 Is OOG active on Harmonia? [12-Mar-22 01:30 PM] insensless72#0000 Oh yeah [12-Mar-22 01:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes, we now have 7 bases. Yours would make 8 [12-Mar-22 01:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 these generally supply ag products and consumables to Nike, Deimos and Phobos bases [12-Mar-22 01:32 PM] yang_mills#0000 I don't see you channels by location. [12-Mar-22 01:32 PM] yang_mills#0000 There are only two, general and yorkshire-bank. [12-Mar-22 01:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ah, they are for @deleted-role only [12-Mar-22 01:34 PM] yang_mills#0000 Ok. [12-Mar-22 01:35 PM] insensless72#0000 Sorry ill ad you now [12-Mar-22 01:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we could remove this if it is too restrictive, i wasnt thinking much about the setting [12-Mar-22 01:35 PM] yang_mills#0000 I also plan to open my 4th base on Nike, and do the construction jobs there. [12-Mar-22 01:35 PM] insensless72#0000 No that was my fault, I added him to everything but that role [12-Mar-22 01:36 PM] yang_mills#0000 Thanks. Now I can access the channels. [12-Mar-22 01:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Do you produce BDE? [12-Mar-22 01:46 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, on Phobos. [12-Mar-22 01:46 PM] insensless72#0000 Can I purchase them from you? [12-Mar-22 01:47 PM] yang_mills#0000 How many do you need? [12-Mar-22 01:47 PM] insensless72#0000 How many do you have? [12-Mar-22 01:48 PM] yang_mills#0000 Only 4 in stock, but can produce more. [12-Mar-22 01:48 PM] insensless72#0000 ill take the 4 you have currently, what price? [12-Mar-22 01:50 PM] yang_mills#0000 1050 AIC per unit. [12-Mar-22 01:51 PM] insensless72#0000 ad is up [12-Mar-22 01:51 PM] yang_mills#0000 Done. [12-Mar-22 02:28 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [12-Mar-22 02:48 PM] spatial_piano#0000 [12-Mar-22 05:21 PM] namthorn#0000 [13-Mar-22 06:27 AM] cazertanu#0000 [13-Mar-22 06:28 AM] cazertanu#0000 [13-Mar-22 06:28 AM] cazertanu#0000 [13-Mar-22 06:28 AM] cazertanu#0000 @yang_mills welcome [13-Mar-22 01:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 is the game down for anyone else? [13-Mar-22 01:07 PM] domicius#0000 Yup [13-Mar-22 01:07 PM] insensless72#0000 yeah [13-Mar-22 01:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @allocater Perhaps this will answer your question about when the end-of-week finances are calculated [13-Mar-22 01:09 PM] allocater#0000 haha ๐Ÿคฃ [13-Mar-22 09:21 PM] insensless72#0000 is the game down for anyone else? [13-Mar-22 09:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes [13-Mar-22 09:22 PM] insensless72#0000 ๐Ÿ™ƒ [13-Mar-22 09:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿ–ฅโฌ‡๏ธ [14-Mar-22 03:22 AM] cazertanu#0000 It's still down [14-Mar-22 03:23 AM] domicius#0000 Yeah. People are chatting on the main discord. It's been down 6+ hours. [14-Mar-22 06:35 AM] namthorn#0000 ah I did wonder why I couldn't access the game before going to bed last night to send my ships off. [14-Mar-22 06:45 AM] domicius#0000 It's up now, has been for a couple of hours [14-Mar-22 12:28 PM] namthorn#0000 Looks like it was a full-on backend crash rather than just the interface being down as all my production lines are now synced up (they weren't at all before) and my ship arrived 9 hours later than it should've [15-Mar-22 12:57 PM] allocater#0000 oh gee, not again [19-Mar-22 06:59 AM] yang_mills#0000 Hello! I've just joined the Ooga Booga Capital Management. Thank you for inviting me! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (5) [19-Mar-22 09:34 AM] domicius#0000 Welcome Barry! [19-Mar-22 11:45 AM] yang_mills#0000 Thanks. By the way, its Bary and not Barry and it stands for baryonic. It's the name of the company, Baryonic Technologies. [19-Mar-22 11:47 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome! We are glad to have you as a shareholder Yang, and look forward to working with you more! [19-Mar-22 12:54 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome! [21-Mar-22 05:52 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome! [22-Mar-22 06:32 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone Sorry for all the blasts today. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [22-Mar-22 06:32 PM] insensless72#0000 Planet chats should be visible to all again [22-Mar-22 06:32 PM] insensless72#0000 Small settings error on my part [22-Mar-22 09:20 PM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [22-Mar-22 09:23 PM] insensless72#0000 [22-Mar-22 09:23 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! [22-Mar-22 10:18 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [22-Mar-22 10:55 PM] erklein#0000 Joined the server. [22-Mar-22 10:56 PM] erklein#0000 [23-Mar-22 03:12 AM] allocater#0000 [23-Mar-22 10:37 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @erklein welcome aboard! [23-Mar-22 01:16 PM] yang_mills#0000 [23-Mar-22 01:17 PM] yang_mills#0000 [26-Mar-22 01:15 PM] erklein#0000 What's the process for joining in game? [26-Mar-22 03:46 PM] insensless72#0000 after a short period of time either DLR or I will invite you officially in game. [26-Mar-22 03:47 PM] insensless72#0000 A week of being active is usually our target range [27-Mar-22 03:46 AM] kharadan#0000 I realized I'm just going through the motions with this game for some time. It'd been fun, but at some point it became just upkeep, so I decided to stop playing. I'll post my inventory on planet chats. You can post ads to purchase whatever you see there for free. Consumables may still slowly diminish, feel free to ping me for exact numbers. Once this is resolved, I'll leave the corp not to dilute dividends you are getting. Thanks for having a good time and wish you good profits {Reactions} ๐Ÿค— (6) [27-Mar-22 08:42 AM] insensless72#0000 Thank you for you contributions to OOG @kharadan! I also thank you for leaving the correct way. If you feel the need to pick the game back up next reset there will always be spot for you. Until then, cheers! [28-Mar-22 11:16 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @kharadan Just reading all of this. Sorry to see you go, and thank you for helping OOG members on the way ot [28-Mar-22 11:17 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will be here next universe with the same name DLR, although maybe I will switch up the company name. Keep an eye out! [28-Mar-22 11:21 AM] kharadan#0000 Thanks DLR, next universe may actually be a good time to come back and check how the game changed ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (3) [29-Mar-22 06:58 AM] insensless72#0000 @everyone A new version of the game dropped today! Make sure you check the revision notes. There are a few interesting changes, like "unload upon arrival" for Pro users [29-Mar-22 06:58 AM] allocater#0000 best one is to turn off production notifications [29-Mar-22 07:07 AM] insensless72#0000 โ˜๏ธ [29-Mar-22 01:10 PM] kharadan#0000 Alright guys, with stockpiles almost empty I'm taking my leave. @rune_242 ping me directly when you'll make space for those LST contracts. Good luck and bright future to all of you {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅบ (2) [30-Mar-22 02:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone posting the FTL ship auction today on the forum, and announcements in global chats later in the night {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [30-Mar-22 02:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 stay tuned [30-Mar-22 02:21 PM] namthorn#0000 noice [30-Mar-22 03:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 actualy a slight delay here as I am afraid to post incorrect information. Waiting on explicit confirmation about what inventory we have [30-Mar-22 03:30 PM] yang_mills#0000 How does the ship construction work? The player has to create a blueprint, gather all the components on a planet with a shipyard, then put his production order into the queue? How much time does the assembly take? Does one have to pay for the assembly? Is it possible to trade ships, and how? [30-Mar-22 03:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 anyone can make a blueprint, they are free [30-Mar-22 03:31 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 you must bring the requires items from a valid blueprint to the shipyard to assemble it, yes. Times are given on the shipyard buffer on that planet [30-Mar-22 03:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i think there are taxes for assembly? not much though. maybe @dasefx1 knows [30-Mar-22 03:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ships are non transferrable and non-reversible once built. [30-Mar-22 03:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 whoever builds it at the shipyard owns it permanently [30-Mar-22 03:33 PM] yang_mills#0000 But I've seen ship auction anoucements. [30-Mar-22 03:33 PM] namthorn#0000 ye they sell the parts [30-Mar-22 03:33 PM] namthorn#0000 a complete set [30-Mar-22 03:33 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the method is to sell each item of a pre-determined blueprint to the buyer, who then builds it and flies away [30-Mar-22 03:34 PM] dasefx1#0000 No taxes, only waiting to build [30-Mar-22 03:34 PM] yang_mills#0000 Ok. I think the devs should introduce the option to sell ships. It should be through special contracts on the local market. [30-Mar-22 03:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we just use normal contracts ๐Ÿ™‚ the ship components are items just like everyrhing else in game [30-Mar-22 03:37 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, but then one can realise that he has too many ships and may want to get rid of one of them. Also the ships may be sold on planets without shipyard. So it would be a kind of business: one produces ships and delivers them to the customers at their doorstep. [30-Mar-22 03:40 PM] insensless72#0000 I imagine the ability to sell completed ships has to be in the future goals of the devs, its basically the end game goal [30-Mar-22 03:41 PM] insensless72#0000 Though not being able to sell ships kind of puts a limit on one player being a powerhouse and pumping out 100 of them [30-Mar-22 03:42 PM] yang_mills#0000 Also there should be the possibility for corporation owned shipyards. It would be a corporation project like the headquarters. It would take one planetary plot. Then there would be two types of fees: fees for corp members, and also fees for outsiders if they are granted access to the corp shipyard. Fees would be fixed by the corp. {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  (2) [30-Mar-22 03:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 currently what you just described conflicts with the way taxes(fees) are collected. A corporation controls the planet via the governorship, and 100% of planet fees are distributed to that corporations shares [30-Mar-22 03:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 last universe, they had to reset the entire game to allow for shipbuilding, because the old game was hard-coded to allow only 2 ships per player, with no mechanism to expand. So they re made the game as the version which we are playing now [30-Mar-22 03:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i am excited for major changes next universe, hopefully they have made enough money to do a round 3 [30-Mar-22 03:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 corporations and taxes in general could use some attention, but we have made the most of the current structure i think [30-Mar-22 03:47 PM] allocater#0000 I'd love terraforming, ie. for 1mil you can increase fertility by 0.01% or change atmosphere, temperature by 0.01% [30-Mar-22 03:49 PM] insensless72#0000 Terraforming would be awesome. There does need to be something to strive to spend your money on late game. Whats the point in having 2mil if youre only buying consumables [30-Mar-22 03:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 buy OOG brand space ships [30-Mar-22 03:49 PM] insensless72#0000 All this being said, the game released last year (I think) so its still early development [30-Mar-22 05:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 There could be limits like the max amount of ships one can own depends on the level of HQ, like for the bases. Also introduce a rule that the two starting ships cannot be sold. This is to prevent new players being lured into selling their ships. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [30-Mar-22 05:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 The two starting ships would be permanently attached to the company. [30-Mar-22 05:13 PM] yang_mills#0000 Since there would be limits on how many ships a company can own, one would be incentivised to get better quality ships and get rid of lower quality ships to free slots. To get rid of a ship, one could either "recycle" it in any shipyard and get a percentage of the components back, or sell the ship through special contract on the local market. This mechanic would create a secondary market for ships. [30-Mar-22 06:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is a great idea [30-Mar-22 06:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also I would feel inspired to become a used car salesman in game. [30-Mar-22 06:21 PM] insensless72#0000 ICE COLD AC {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [30-Mar-22 07:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/958885876509851748/unknown.png?ex=6814bad0&is=68136950&hm=d47c2e8e7ea7242d2250e8f5af0aacdb91518178e258cb22096d08b47a0040e6& [10-Apr-22 06:58 AM] yang_mills#0000 Here is my post on the forum on ship trading, corporate shipyards and related questions. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/ship-trading-and-more/4384 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/ship-trading-and-more/4384 Ship trading and more Hello. Here are some suggestions regarding the ship building. 1)Introduce the possibility of ship upgrades. This has been already suggested. It would be a kind of shipyard job. One would be able to replace some components by some other version and the material cost would be the full cost of the new component. One would also get back a pecentage... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (2) ๐Ÿš€ (2) [10-Apr-22 04:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I see a small rush of new players [10-Apr-22 04:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 activity is up this weekend [11-Apr-22 08:01 PM] insensless72#0000 This message is in regards to Airie deciding she did not play enough to remain in the corporation {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/963242428377235456/unknown.png?ex=6814c22b&is=681370ab&hm=344f96a09db19e190a34fba46f03a48e07266d98eb83367285c524c28bce59a6& [11-Apr-22 08:02 PM] insensless72#0000 She was relatively small so it should not impact any production lines. [12-Apr-22 07:04 AM] yang_mills#0000 Does anyone have PG and PE to sell? @namthorn @yjhasaday ? [12-Apr-22 07:08 AM] namthorn#0000 PG yes, 1350 on griffonstone, 500 on deimos. [12-Apr-22 10:42 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I have 3000 PE on Phobos right now @3.8/u. I don't make PG but I can spot you some if you're in a pinch - I have 1500 right now. I buy mine from @bitcoin_ape on Phobos, I think he usually has a good stock to sell [12-Apr-22 10:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ah, yes. I am mr. polymer on phobos [12-Apr-22 10:49 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 16 each if you want, but i cant ship [12-Apr-22 11:13 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hey all, quick help question - I thought when I upgraded my HQ it would allow me more production queue slots? Is that not the case? I could really use some more now that I have my BMPs trying to make like 7+ different things [12-Apr-22 11:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 no, it doesnt do that [12-Apr-22 11:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 it adds permits, so you can have more bases, or expand existing bases with more building area [12-Apr-22 11:16 AM] dasefx1#0000 it is ad slots, but with exact HQ upgrades, now I had 17 of them [12-Apr-22 11:16 AM] dasefx1#0000 I am not sure which one, but HQ upgrade add them [12-Apr-22 11:26 AM] namthorn#0000 https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ has some details, according to that you get more queue slots at HQ level 5 {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [12-Apr-22 11:27 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Thank you for this, good to know! [12-Apr-22 12:08 PM] yang_mills#0000 Posted buy ads for PE on Phobos. [12-Apr-22 12:09 PM] yang_mills#0000 Posted a buy ad for PG on Phobos. [12-Apr-22 06:26 PM] yang_mills#0000 Do you know who Plethora PTHA is? [12-Apr-22 06:27 PM] yang_mills#0000 This company took my ad for SF on Deimos and hasn't delivered it so far. [12-Apr-22 06:27 PM] yang_mills#0000 It has bases on Poseidon and Gibson. Where is it? [12-Apr-22 06:29 PM] yang_mills#0000 It's 9 and 16 jumps away. [15-Apr-22 08:30 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Does anyone in corp extract H? Now that yaro is out of the H game I need a new supplier - thought I would check with you all before I start buying large amounts of CX [15-Apr-22 08:33 AM] yang_mills#0000 Contact DiggingLake or Slomes. They might sell you a full shipment on the LM on KI-401d. [15-Apr-22 08:36 AM] yjhasaday#0000 That's not a bad idea, thanks! Or maybe I'll post on UFO Antares to see if someone can supply a little closer. But first I'll give it some time to see if anyone in corp responds [15-Apr-22 10:33 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @yjhasaday either this, or markymark in corp [15-Apr-22 10:33 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but slomes and digginglake are been the main suppliers for the region [16-Apr-22 02:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 At last, it is time for me to retire my original buildings on Phobos. I have expanded the base to 750 area, and now need room for another AML. [16-Apr-22 02:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/964972192838336562/unknown.png?ex=68151e63&is=6813cce3&hm=6dc4cefd4dcec388fc483a3da23f4ff35cdf458558c1c01e43faeb1757f42eff& [16-Apr-22 02:36 PM] allocater#0000 60% farm, put it out of its misery ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Apr-22 02:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have repaired them many times, and kept them basically for nostalgia [16-Apr-22 02:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 it reminds me of simpler times... But now we gotta build ships ๐Ÿš€ [16-Apr-22 02:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/964972946374422538/unknown.png?ex=68151f16&is=6813cd96&hm=a1b09ceeee1ad62e650d222e85d24a8a6d731682c85fc1ffbfa386ef0d6147ab& [16-Apr-22 02:40 PM] allocater#0000 is it ZIR or BER? [16-Apr-22 02:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 both [16-Apr-22 02:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 running out of BER though [16-Apr-22 02:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wait... i am out {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [16-Apr-22 02:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 so ZIR now ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Apr-22 02:46 PM] allocater#0000 I buy all BE on phobos [16-Apr-22 02:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 for the capacitor banks, right? [16-Apr-22 02:47 PM] allocater#0000 yup [18-Apr-22 10:14 AM] yang_mills#0000 @bitcoin_ape @allocater @namthorn @spatial_piano I would need 4 UTS to upgrade my HQ and 12 PSL for a new base. Could anyone sell me this? [18-Apr-22 10:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have a few UTS on Deimos [18-Apr-22 10:15 AM] yang_mills#0000 How many? Do you have 4? [18-Apr-22 10:16 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes [18-Apr-22 10:17 AM] yang_mills#0000 Price? [18-Apr-22 10:21 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ehh, 5k for 4 {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [18-Apr-22 10:22 AM] yang_mills#0000 Ad is up on Deimos LM. [18-Apr-22 10:23 AM] namthorn#0000 dont have a FS for UTS, have a bid in the CX for 8 myself [18-Apr-22 10:23 AM] yang_mills#0000 Do you sell PSL? [18-Apr-22 10:24 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I got insensless to make these 8 for me, but ended up getting some randomly on the CX [18-Apr-22 10:24 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 so this last 4 could go to namthorn at the same price [18-Apr-22 10:24 AM] namthorn#0000 i'll gladly take em yea [18-Apr-22 10:24 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 still on deimos [18-Apr-22 10:25 AM] yang_mills#0000 Thank you, @bitcoin_ape ! [18-Apr-22 10:26 AM] namthorn#0000 PSLs are from a PPF, I don't have one of those, try hephaestus [18-Apr-22 10:26 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 The UTS thing is relatively new. It caught me off guard also [18-Apr-22 10:27 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 historically, Mark has made all PSL. His PPF is busy but I expect he can spare 12 [18-Apr-22 10:28 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Markโ€™s PPF has made the PSL for all of my expansion bases now that i think about it. Many others in corp too [18-Apr-22 10:33 AM] allocater#0000 mark has 50 PSL on the CX [18-Apr-22 01:03 PM] spatial_piano#0000 12 PSL@17k on Hephaestus {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [18-Apr-22 01:07 PM] yang_mills#0000 Ad is up on Hephaestus LM. [20-Apr-22 10:30 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I noticed that apparently its possible for planets to go over their maximum base plots? With the new player rush it appears that Prom is 137 over its plot limit [20-Apr-22 10:30 AM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/966360191236997210/unknown.png?ex=6814e50f&is=6813938f&hm=a95f61c7d0b48783c1ba5232a23ddd135072c6b684a83e340931f9e8699cf752& [20-Apr-22 10:31 AM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, this is a changed introduced in the last update. [20-Apr-22 10:31 AM] yang_mills#0000 Only for the first base though. [20-Apr-22 10:32 AM] yang_mills#0000 One can establish the first base anywhere with the ghost slot mechanic. However, from the 2nd base on, free non-ghost plots are required. [20-Apr-22 10:33 AM] yang_mills#0000 This is to avoid rejecting new players from the start. [20-Apr-22 10:35 AM] yjhasaday#0000 makes sense, thanks for the info! [20-Apr-22 11:52 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 500 players ๐Ÿ‘€ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (2) [20-Apr-22 02:05 PM] yang_mills#0000 Steam is a big deal. [20-Apr-22 04:37 PM] namthorn#0000 rip prom's popi {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/966452500297302106/unknown.png?ex=68149247&is=681340c7&hm=240d0a4089251533c9f3a9ef53d32473b7df5024bced9eebff0ed30bbbef6c21& [20-Apr-22 04:37 PM] namthorn#0000 700 bases xD [20-Apr-22 04:47 PM] yang_mills#0000 +80 new bases on Phobos since the last week. And now that's our problem. [20-Apr-22 07:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thats our tax base* {Reactions} ๐Ÿค‘ [21-Apr-22 05:42 AM] yang_mills#0000 True. But we have a slight accounting problem. [21-Apr-22 10:31 AM] emperyan11#0000 Joined the server. [21-Apr-22 10:31 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome @emperyan11 [21-Apr-22 10:34 AM] emperyan11#0000 [21-Apr-22 10:36 AM] yang_mills#0000 [21-Apr-22 10:38 AM] emperyan11#0000 So, considering you cats for my first corp... is it a good idea? I'm a small AL /BFAB producer on Deimos with a bad idea base on a local iceball producing fuel. [21-Apr-22 10:39 AM] yang_mills#0000 Hello Emperyan! [21-Apr-22 10:39 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Well, we are the best corp in game ๐Ÿ˜Ž [21-Apr-22 10:40 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It is impossible to go wrong with AL on Deimos. You can probably float your bad-idea-base on metallurgy profits alone, within reason. [21-Apr-22 10:41 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 is it on ice station alpha? or a different ice ball? [21-Apr-22 10:42 AM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, I've already built back my bank account and filled my fuel bunkers. Starting to sell to the CX now too! [21-Apr-22 10:42 AM] emperyan11#0000 ZV-759e [21-Apr-22 10:43 AM] emperyan11#0000 In the Ant II system a STL run from Deimos [21-Apr-22 10:43 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Well, its one of the few locations where you can do vertical fuel production [21-Apr-22 10:44 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but the insulation prices... That alone might kill your profits [21-Apr-22 10:44 AM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, mostly just have to buy H since the production rate is so low [21-Apr-22 10:44 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We can talk more later, happy to meet you. I actually need to start my workday right now. [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have many knowledgable members, im sure they would be happy to discuss strategy with you. Cheers! [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, I'm going to revisit once repais season comes up [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] emperyan11#0000 Cheers! [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] yang_mills#0000 Oh, I see. You are the only inhabitant of ZV-759e. [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] emperyan11#0000 Sure am, lol [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 one last note: [21-Apr-22 10:45 AM] emperyan11#0000 Its nice here... and I've already got spare pop. [21-Apr-22 10:46 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 slow fuel production is mainly capped by hydrogen availability and chemical plnt time to make NaB [21-Apr-22 10:47 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you have access to galerite, i suppose you could import gases from QJ-392 [21-Apr-22 10:48 AM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, galerite (and plentiful FEO) is why I decided to try it [21-Apr-22 10:50 AM] emperyan11#0000 So, in other news, are there any minimum qualifications to joining OBCM? [21-Apr-22 11:04 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Not in game, but in general we are looking for engagement, collaboration, communication and long-term plans [21-Apr-22 11:05 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We tend to invest in our newer/smaller members to help them scale up quickly, but the nature of this game is that many people stop playing after a few weeks [21-Apr-22 11:06 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 So, we need to be careful that a person will stick with us, instead of take some investment and then go inactive or stop communicating. [21-Apr-22 11:08 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Oh. The only hard requirement in game is having bases in Antares. All of our members are local and this is a key element to our operations and strategy [21-Apr-22 11:16 AM] emperyan11#0000 All fair. Obvi, I'm on Deimos and I've been with the game for 230 days. Also fair warning, I'm kind of a pantser.... I know, I know i should spreadsheet everything but I enjoy the gut check business plan [21-Apr-22 11:17 AM] emperyan11#0000 Haven't gone broke and haven't colliq'd so I figure I'm doing ok [21-Apr-22 11:24 AM] emperyan11#0000 So, how does one join? [21-Apr-22 02:08 PM] yang_mills#0000 @emperyan11 , you wrote that you produce AL and Bfabs on Deimos. How many SMEs and PP2s do you actually have there? [21-Apr-22 02:10 PM] thummper#0000 Joined the server. [21-Apr-22 02:15 PM] allocater#0000 [21-Apr-22 02:23 PM] thummper#0000 ๐Ÿ† the incinerator is switched on [21-Apr-22 02:23 PM] thummper#0000 carbon machine is functional {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [21-Apr-22 02:30 PM] emperyan11#0000 @yang_mills 2 SME and 1 PP2 (I told you I was smol) [21-Apr-22 02:31 PM] emperyan11#0000 Gearing up for another expansion though. [21-Apr-22 02:39 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome Emperyan! Will you tell me your locations and business name in game so I can set up your tags? Basically what we like it do is give new members a 7 day trial period. We find this works best for both parties. As the player you can feel out OOG as a corp and the corp can feel you out as a player. After 7 days, if you want to stick around and be part of the fun we will send you a formal in game invite to corp, which is when you will receive dividend payouts from our governed planets. [21-Apr-22 02:40 PM] namthorn#0000 moar SME! can make a killing on AL, there's huge demand both in and out of corp [21-Apr-22 02:40 PM] insensless72#0000 [21-Apr-22 02:40 PM] namthorn#0000 [21-Apr-22 02:40 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome @thummper! Will you also send me your locations and business name so I can get you set up? [21-Apr-22 02:42 PM] emperyan11#0000 @insensless72 Venturi Metals is headquarted on Deimos with a fuel refining depot on ZV-759e [21-Apr-22 02:42 PM] emperyan11#0000 Let me know what I can do to help the corp succeed! [21-Apr-22 02:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Your best immediate action would be to set up some SMEs and vertical bfab production on Deimos. We have several constructors (including myself) and we cant keep up with fab demand [21-Apr-22 02:57 PM] yang_mills#0000 [21-Apr-22 02:57 PM] yang_mills#0000 [21-Apr-22 02:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 Do you purchase the LST on the LM on Nike? Perhaps you are one of our customers. [21-Apr-22 02:59 PM] yang_mills#0000 Hi Thummper! May I ask your in game company code? [21-Apr-22 03:00 PM] emperyan11#0000 I ONLY buy Nike LST, lol [21-Apr-22 03:01 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, there is a lot of synergy between Deimos and Nike. [21-Apr-22 03:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 I alone consume more than 55 AL per day. That's the lower bound. Sometimes it's higher than this. This is to give you an idea of our scales. [21-Apr-22 03:05 PM] namthorn#0000 that HWP is hungry [21-Apr-22 03:05 PM] yang_mills#0000 The 3 PP2s are hungry too. [21-Apr-22 03:05 PM] namthorn#0000 true, true [21-Apr-22 03:06 PM] yang_mills#0000 Also use AL for EXO (not much) and for SI. [21-Apr-22 03:06 PM] yang_mills#0000 Lfabs consume much more AL than Bfabs. [21-Apr-22 03:06 PM] namthorn#0000 that they do, though thankfully i havent needed to make a ton in a while, just bfab spamming. though that will change for hq level 6 iirc [21-Apr-22 03:08 PM] yang_mills#0000 But yeah, HWP hungry! [21-Apr-22 03:09 PM] namthorn#0000 in summary, moar AL required [21-Apr-22 03:10 PM] yang_mills#0000 And more C to feed all the smelters. @thummper [21-Apr-22 03:13 PM] namthorn#0000 oh yes, definitely. and for all the plastic [21-Apr-22 03:15 PM] yang_mills#0000 And the plastic. Forgot about it. [21-Apr-22 03:20 PM] insensless72#0000 We also sell LST in corp dirt cheap, usually around 35ea. Another route you could take would be C production. It is also almost always in high demand and in demand within corp [21-Apr-22 03:25 PM] thummper#0000 BET [21-Apr-22 03:26 PM] emperyan11#0000 I produce some C / RAT / DW but only enough to cover my vert. Basically, when I get sick of buying something I look to see if I can supply myself, lol. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Apr-22 03:26 PM] namthorn#0000 agh, making rat/dw on deimos? we have harmonians for that here! [21-Apr-22 03:26 PM] namthorn#0000 at very good rates [21-Apr-22 03:27 PM] namthorn#0000 C is worth though, buy crops and burn on deimos for sure [21-Apr-22 03:29 PM] emperyan11#0000 Ah, you know, as a small indy you get by how you can... with corp help/prices I mighr be able to shutter my gardens and food processors in favour of SMEs ans more PP2s [21-Apr-22 03:32 PM] insensless72#0000 You wont go wrong either way. Just a heads up, most constructors in corp have set bfab prices, which you could utilize to rearrange or add on to bases. BSE 500, BBH 800, BDE, 800, BTA 500. Though currently we have a que for fabs so it might be a few days at least [21-Apr-22 03:33 PM] namthorn#0000 id probably keep them around until you need the space if they're doing fine as-is tbh. especially with the volatile rat/dw markets atm. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Apr-22 03:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone It seems that I might have fallen ill in real life. Will know for sure tomorrow. I will try to stay connected, but if need arises, please extend my contracts. [21-Apr-22 04:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 hope you are well. dont sweat about the contracts, we will manage [21-Apr-22 04:10 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I hope you're okay! Here's to a speedy recovery [21-Apr-22 04:11 PM] namthorn#0000 ye man, hope it's nothing serious and you get well soon! [22-Apr-22 09:07 AM] yang_mills#0000 I don't feel bad, but I don't feel completely ok either. Will see. But for now I can stay connected. [22-Apr-22 09:09 AM] yang_mills#0000 @emperyan11 , I wanted to ask, what do you produce on ZV-759e? Do you refine SF from GAL, AMM and H that you extract locally? [22-Apr-22 09:15 AM] yang_mills#0000 @thummper, right now there are very good prices for C on the CX (commodity exchange). This might stay like that with all these new players on Deimos who need C for metallurgy. But with one incinerator it takes time to produce a significant amount C. Maybe 5 days for 20 C, something like that. [22-Apr-22 09:18 AM] thummper#0000 Yeah I was looking to scale up but I dont have the cash for construction parts currently, just waiting for first carbon to finish atm [22-Apr-22 09:35 AM] yang_mills#0000 I see you bought a PRO licence. [22-Apr-22 09:46 AM] yang_mills#0000 @thummper I can sell you some cheap basic prefabs on Phobos on the local market. But not much. Let's say for one more incinerator: 4 BSE, 3 BBH, 2 BDE and 1 BTA. Prices are 600 per BSE, 800 per BBH, 600 per BDE and 500 per BTA. Compare it to prices on the CX and see the difference. On top of that I could also sell you the 40 MCG needed for INC at 15 per unit. If you post buy ads on Phobos for these, I could fulfil them. You would need to rent a warehouse space on Phobos for that, since you don't have a base there. It costs 100 AIC per week. You can cancel it as soon as you load the mats on your ship. [22-Apr-22 10:00 AM] thummper#0000 If it's not too much trouble for you mate that would help me greatly! [22-Apr-22 10:03 AM] yang_mills#0000 Post the buy ads on Phobos with the indicated amounts of materials and for corresponding prices. [22-Apr-22 10:05 AM] yang_mills#0000 @thummper When you create an ad you have to indicate the total price, not the price per unit. [22-Apr-22 10:05 AM] thummper#0000 oh [22-Apr-22 10:05 AM] thummper#0000 whoops [22-Apr-22 10:05 AM] yang_mills#0000 So if you want 4 BSE, you should indicate 2400 and not 600. @thummper [22-Apr-22 10:05 AM] yang_mills#0000 You can delete the other ads. [22-Apr-22 10:06 AM] yang_mills#0000 Use the LMOS command. Then post new ads. [22-Apr-22 10:11 AM] yang_mills#0000 @thummper Nice. Your first deal on the local market? [22-Apr-22 10:11 AM] thummper#0000 yes thank you for the help {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [22-Apr-22 10:12 AM] yang_mills#0000 @thummper I can also sell you on Phobos cheaper OVE, at 50 AIC per unit. Up to 20 OVE. You don't have to buy 20, you can buy less. You don't need that much OVE with a small base. [22-Apr-22 10:16 AM] thummper#0000 ok thank you [22-Apr-22 10:16 AM] thummper#0000 do you think it is worth putting shipping ads up because I have 1 ship idle [22-Apr-22 10:19 AM] yang_mills#0000 Well, it's worth putting a shipping ad if it costs you less than the fuel you would use to fly from Harmonia to Phobos and back. Ask @allocater how much your shipping would cost, given the usual prices on the LM. Indicate the total weight and volume. [22-Apr-22 10:20 AM] thummper#0000 Does the cargo type matter when making a shipping ad? [22-Apr-22 10:20 AM] thummper#0000 thanks for the help btw [22-Apr-22 10:20 AM] yang_mills#0000 What do you mean? [22-Apr-22 10:21 AM] thummper#0000 like to make the ad you have to select the commodity type? [22-Apr-22 10:23 AM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, I believe it's a separate ad for each commodity type. The shipping of small quantities from Phobos to Harmonia is usually cheap. Ask @allocater for the common prices, he knows this. But of course you would need to wait someone flying Phobos -> Harmonia to pick your ad. It's a common route, but you might wait a couple of days. [22-Apr-22 10:24 AM] thummper#0000 ok thanks [22-Apr-22 10:25 AM] yang_mills#0000 I think it's less than 50 AIC per 100 t or per 100 m^3, whichever weight or volume is greater. [22-Apr-22 11:09 AM] emperyan11#0000 @yang_mills Yeah, I'm refining SF and mining FEO to feed my STL dreams on Deimos. I supplement the H from the CX since the levels are so low and I'm probably going to eventually demolish the collector as it's barely worth it. Probably going to replace it with another extractor. [22-Apr-22 11:32 AM] allocater#0000 in system I usually burn 100+ SF, which is 1000 AIC, so 2 AIC / ton. But small amounts I shuttle for free. [22-Apr-22 12:49 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, ZV-759e is one of the two FEO planets in Antares II. The other one is ZV-759b. ZV-759e offers slightly more FEO than ZV-759b, but ZV-759b should be much easier since it does not require INS on top of HSE. It's true that you can also get GAL and AMM from ZV-759e, but the quantities look tiny to me. Is your refining on ZV-759e profitable, taking into account the depreciation and the maintenance of workers? [22-Apr-22 01:03 PM] namthorn#0000 i'd assume so or they would have gone bust. might not be the most profitable setup but building up the ANT II sector could pay out in the long term, there's a H GG too and a HAL world, so could all be serviced via a STL ship built on deimos. [22-Apr-22 01:04 PM] yang_mills#0000 What does H GG mean? [22-Apr-22 01:04 PM] namthorn#0000 sorry, H gas giant [22-Apr-22 01:05 PM] yang_mills#0000 Do you mean that in this way one could stay self-sufficient for SF in the ANT II system? [22-Apr-22 01:06 PM] namthorn#0000 you could expand and entirely keep your company within that system [22-Apr-22 01:06 PM] yang_mills#0000 I see. [22-Apr-22 01:07 PM] namthorn#0000 and make some savings with internal SF production yea. only thing missing is a farming world [22-Apr-22 01:10 PM] yang_mills#0000 Well, yes, one misses a farming world in ANT II. On top of that, HSE and INS have to come from somewhere. [22-Apr-22 01:11 PM] namthorn#0000 true, could be worthwhile still though, having a SHY in the system makes a lot of things more feasible. [22-Apr-22 01:11 PM] yang_mills#0000 I think there is no argon for INS in ANT II. [22-Apr-22 01:11 PM] yang_mills#0000 What is a SHY? [22-Apr-22 01:11 PM] namthorn#0000 idk if that sthe abbreviation, shipyard [22-Apr-22 01:11 PM] yang_mills#0000 oh [22-Apr-22 01:13 PM] yang_mills#0000 One also misses TCO for HSE. [22-Apr-22 01:15 PM] namthorn#0000 ye, thats where others come in to enable it, like how i can produce TCS, and anyone with a pp3 can make the ins [22-Apr-22 01:18 PM] yang_mills#0000 I don't really believe in staying in ANT II alone. I like Mumzhar's approach (the governor of Harmonia). He basically settles every nice planet in the area and optimises his production chains, also taking into account the COGC, without trying to be completely self-sufficient. A plot on a nice planet is the most valuable resource in this game, and there are only finitely many available. [22-Apr-22 01:20 PM] namthorn#0000 yep, starter ones are all close to or have gone atm [22-Apr-22 01:22 PM] oreville#0000 Joined the server. [22-Apr-22 01:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 Phobos gone, Deimos almost gone. Still 128 plots available on Harmonia. @everyone Folks, if you don't have it yet, try to grab a plot on Deimos or Harmonia. This might be your last chance. [22-Apr-22 01:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 [22-Apr-22 01:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 Welcome, @oreville ! [22-Apr-22 01:24 PM] allocater#0000 [22-Apr-22 01:24 PM] allocater#0000 Awesome name! ๐Ÿคฉ 6 seasons and a movie! [22-Apr-22 01:25 PM] oreville#0000 https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/caJLahrkJYSHqvfPCKiYF5AF0VfGGOeqOEi3P7z4YJU/https/media.tenor.com/Qy5sUxL5phgAAAAD/forest-gump-wave.png [22-Apr-22 01:25 PM] oreville#0000 Hello, thanks for the welcome [22-Apr-22 01:26 PM] emperyan11#0000 @yang_mills So far worker upkeep is a non issue and I'm going to review the operation once repair season comes up. Thus far though I've been able to keep both ships flying, stock my fuel bunkers and still sell some SF on the CX. So... going all right? [22-Apr-22 01:26 PM] oreville#0000 I'm a new metallurgist with a very young company -- just added my second extractor yesterday... but always getting bigger! [22-Apr-22 01:27 PM] namthorn#0000 welcome [22-Apr-22 01:27 PM] emperyan11#0000 I was initially looking for in system FEO and it was the GAL that sold me... [22-Apr-22 01:28 PM] emperyan11#0000 Of course, there's a reason I call it my "Bad Idea Base" [22-Apr-22 01:31 PM] yang_mills#0000 @oreville Your company code is ROCK, isn't it? [22-Apr-22 01:39 PM] yang_mills#0000 Deimos is a cash machine. Or at least it was before prices on RAT went up. And RAT calmed down a bit since yesterday. [22-Apr-22 03:07 PM] oreville#0000 It is however I'm having some trouble with the bot [22-Apr-22 03:26 PM] yang_mills#0000 @oreville is from Deimos. The company code is ROCK. [22-Apr-22 03:26 PM] oreville#0000 Thank you! [22-Apr-22 06:36 PM] yang_mills#0000 By the way, @emperyan11 , do you know a cheap source of INS? I mean cheaper than on CX. Perhaps an agreement with someone. Are Slomes (SLME) and Visinvictus (IG) the only two producers in the area? [22-Apr-22 06:40 PM] namthorn#0000 really we'd just need some good priced AR & pp3 time. PE is produced by the bucketload in general and we have LABs in corp for the THF (which we already have a corp source for the AMM for) . The CX price isn't that bad though imo. [22-Apr-22 06:52 PM] yang_mills#0000 This is great. Where does AR come from? I consider the possibility of a second metallurgy planet in Ant II system. A2B is cheaper, but Mumzhar and Rain produce Lfabs and Rfabs there and use a construction bonus for the COGC. [22-Apr-22 06:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 INS hurts, but it's not that much compared to the cost of Rfabs. [22-Apr-22 07:12 PM] emperyan11#0000 @yang_mills Yeah... don't have a source for INS. Just took my time buying. And I hear you on the RFab price... it will be a while before I expand in that direction [22-Apr-22 07:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have 2 PP3 on Nike that are dedicated on INS, this is pretty recent though. The first of it was used to help @spatial_piano expand on the hydrogen/ammonia planet [22-Apr-22 07:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @insensless72 and myself have good inventory of RFABs, but not BFABs right now. [23-Apr-22 02:42 PM] allocater#0000 down ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [23-Apr-22 04:24 PM] mitlof#0000 Joined the server. [23-Apr-22 04:26 PM] mitlof#0000 Hi, i'm a new constructor on Nike [23-Apr-22 04:29 PM] domicius#0000 Hello! [23-Apr-22 04:31 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Welcome! [23-Apr-22 04:31 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Our corporation HQ is built on Nike, and we have governed there for a few months now [23-Apr-22 04:37 PM] neoreeves#0000 Joined the server. [23-Apr-22 04:38 PM] neoreeves#0000 [23-Apr-22 04:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome, Neo [23-Apr-22 04:39 PM] neoreeves#0000 Hey, my in game handle is Soylent Green Solutions, a new guy on Phobos [23-Apr-22 04:40 PM] neoreeves#0000 Is there a run down of corp member duties and benefits and such? [23-Apr-22 04:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We all collaborate on shipping and generally providing stable internal supply chains and favorable deals where possible. [23-Apr-22 04:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, we try to fund the planetary infrastructure on planets where OOG governs. [23-Apr-22 04:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 As for benefits, on Nike there is a global +10% production boost for all OOG bases. This is from the HQ. [23-Apr-22 04:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also, tax revenue from our governed planets (Nike + Phobos) is distributed weekly to OOG shareholders as a dividend. [23-Apr-22 04:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There are many other "soft" benefits which generally come from networking with other members. [23-Apr-22 04:45 PM] neoreeves#0000 Ah cool, those are great to hear, so there is no fixed contribution of any goods/currency etc? Just donate to infrastructure if possible? [23-Apr-22 04:47 PM] neoreeves#0000 My HQ is founded like 12 days ago, so I don't think I am in any capacity to contribute yet ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Apr-22 04:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is true, we have not needed to enforce any donations so far. However we are being selective with who we extend invites to, to avoid bringing on players who arent willing to play collaboratively. [23-Apr-22 04:47 PM] neoreeves#0000 Yes, that makes sense [23-Apr-22 04:49 PM] neoreeves#0000 I can trade RAT on Phobos below market if it helps, my output is about 40 per day I believe [23-Apr-22 05:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Thats fine. We understand that it is difficult to contribute as a smaller player with limited revenue growth. [23-Apr-22 05:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 People who work with us generally get really favorable terms, and grow faster. There are many success stories here ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’– [23-Apr-22 11:59 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! As a construction specialist, will fit right in here. Glad to have you in corp and on Nike! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [24-Apr-22 12:00 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! [24-Apr-22 01:52 AM] allocater#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [24-Apr-22 05:14 PM] yang_mills#0000 Hi, @thummper ! Did it work for your 2nd incinerator? [24-Apr-22 05:15 PM] thummper#0000 yes second incin is up and operational thanks to you, first carbon came out earlier today {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Apr-22 05:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 nice! [24-Apr-22 08:56 PM] erklein#0000 This is a question that has been bothering me for a while: What is MTC used for? [24-Apr-22 11:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I dont think it is used. [24-Apr-22 11:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Wow that 4m NCC went pretty quick. When do we sell the next ship? I need to get back to the slot machines. [24-Apr-22 11:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/968002162800095232/unknown.png?ex=6814ef84&is=68139e04&hm=62d3c9fd2dca496052b73a655c2d52ca594ca7003c6e581a5af40c34c0ec33a3& [25-Apr-22 02:45 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Should I do it? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/968236299431604264/unknown.png?ex=681520d2&is=6813cf52&hm=7e9c30bcf22fa9304d28040ff35935306f385bc0f72be7a668cb6ca4ebc94b2d& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [25-Apr-22 02:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lmao [25-Apr-22 03:22 PM] yang_mills#0000 1500+ bases on Promitor! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ (2) [25-Apr-22 04:01 PM] namthorn#0000 do it! [25-Apr-22 04:06 PM] spatial_piano#0000 It has been done! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/968256790301118515/unknown.png?ex=68148b28&is=681339a8&hm=b055b7e8f9d74278e5c69722019717dd2ee11cf08c2a23aecd9fb6b2627b4b04& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [27-Apr-22 09:08 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, just wanted to say I'm back! I was travelling and had surprisingly low access to internet. So I was forced to put the game on pause for a bit, now I'm frantically trying to get my bases back up and running ๐Ÿ˜… lol. If anyone has any RAT to sell on Deimos or Nike, I could really use some! Cheers {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) [28-Apr-22 01:17 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Counterpoint started a discussion on the forum on a custom contract system. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/custom-contracts/4441 I wrote my thoughts on this topic. You can join and give your suggestions. {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/custom-contracts/4441 Custom Contracts Hey! Weโ€™d like to pick your brains on one of the upcoming topics weโ€™ll tackle in the gameโ€™s development: custom contracts. What that basically means is that youโ€™ll be able to create your own contracts from a โ€œconstruction kitโ€ of conditions, then send your contract draft to another player and have them accept or reject it, or counter-suggest a n... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [28-Apr-22 09:02 PM] neoreeves#0000 Is it just me or game server has been down for like half a day now? [28-Apr-22 09:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 It has been down for at least 4 hours {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ซ (2) [28-Apr-22 09:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 maybe 5? [28-Apr-22 09:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is good time to strategize ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Apr-22 09:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 My current to-do item is to tear down my old KI-401b base after using the new OOG3000 ship to collect all of my metal and rocks and such. [28-Apr-22 09:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I will either go for vertical FE on the Antares II iron planet, or just shift all of the bfabs to my harmonia base [28-Apr-22 09:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 leaning towards harmonia [28-Apr-22 10:07 PM] domicius#0000 She's back up lads. [29-Apr-22 01:42 AM] allocater#0000 I finally understood how the sorting of the screens works. It's case sensitive, so you get to 2 lists A->B and a->b ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [29-Apr-22 02:31 AM] allocater#0000 aaand down again [29-Apr-22 03:40 AM] yang_mills#0000 The number of bases started to decrease on Phobos, Deimos and Harmonia. That's the end of the wave. There will be backflow. It's seems that Harmonia will not be full, so you can grab a plot there if don't have one yet. [30-Apr-22 07:17 AM] insensless72#0000 As of today we have 3 new official OOG Shareholders: @emperyan11 @neoreeves @mitlof. As of this point, you will begin receiving corporate dividends from our tax revenue we receive from governing planets. Welcome, and as always, if you have any questions regarding expansion, gameplay, or strategic plans feel free to ask. {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) ๐Ÿ‘‹ (7) [30-Apr-22 07:43 AM] domicius#0000 Hello guys! [30-Apr-22 09:40 AM] insensless72#0000 And we have a 4th @thummper. See my above message ^^^ [30-Apr-22 09:40 AM] thummper#0000 thanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (4) ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [30-Apr-22 09:57 AM] mitlof#0000 Thanks ! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [30-Apr-22 02:06 PM] allocater#0000 can anybody still scroll down the CXOS list to month old offers? My list just stops now. [02-May-22 08:15 AM] spatial_piano#0000 I still have at least 4 months old orders there. It sometimes stops to load, or makes this "CLick here to load more" button at the bottom, but otherwise it's working fine. [02-May-22 03:31 PM] insensless72#0000 Is anyone selling MCG in corp? [02-May-22 03:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @domicius @yjhasaday on phobos, possibly [02-May-22 03:35 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I am fresh out. Just filled an ad [02-May-22 03:35 PM] yang_mills#0000 I produce and sell MCG on Nike. Also have some stocks on Phobos. [02-May-22 03:37 PM] insensless72#0000 Awesome, id like 2000 if you can fill, if not i can wait until you can [02-May-22 03:39 PM] yang_mills#0000 I can fill 500 on Phobos right now. 2000 will take quite some time. Production rate 400 MCG per day. [02-May-22 03:40 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I can contribute 500 MCG but its on Deimos. Maybe you can take it on the OOG-3000? [02-May-22 03:40 PM] insensless72#0000 Sweet, ill take it from both of ya. let me know the price {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [02-May-22 03:44 PM] yang_mills#0000 15 aic/u. So 7 500 AIC for 500 MCG. [02-May-22 03:45 PM] domicius#0000 I make about 1k MCG a day, would take me 2 days to make 2k. Just finishing up an order for DLR right now, but if you post up an ad for whatever you want just let me know. [02-May-22 03:46 PM] insensless72#0000 On which planet? [02-May-22 03:46 PM] domicius#0000 Phobos {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-May-22 03:46 PM] insensless72#0000 ad is up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [02-May-22 03:55 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I'll do same price for the 500 MCG on Deimos [02-May-22 04:01 PM] insensless72#0000 ad is up {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [03-May-22 09:41 AM] rune_242#0000 How to I change my NCC to AIC with a 1:1 ratio? [03-May-22 09:48 AM] namthorn#0000 buy mm stuff 0.01 above at moria cx, ship to antares cx and sell to mm [03-May-22 11:11 AM] domicius#0000 Although you should generally find an arbitrage opportunity... [03-May-22 11:43 AM] allocater#0000 if it's only a bit you can put it up for sale 1.01 or buy at 0.99 [03-May-22 11:43 AM] allocater#0000 or whatever is the best atm, then you get 1:>1 [03-May-22 11:43 AM] allocater#0000 if its too much, better use the MM, or give it to me, I fly to moria almost every day [03-May-22 11:44 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @rune_242 easiest option is custom trades with allocater or myself. We deal in large quantities of both currencies {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-May-22 12:00 PM] rune_242#0000 can I trade 14k? [03-May-22 12:01 PM] allocater#0000 sure sell 1 DW for 14k AIC anywhere [03-May-22 12:01 PM] rune_242#0000 posted an ad on deimos LM [03-May-22 12:03 PM] rune_242#0000 thank you sir๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™‚๏ธ ๐Ÿค {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ (2) [03-May-22 12:03 PM] allocater#0000 first time the currency exchange emoji is actually accurate ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-May-22 12:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 Now the game rapidly loses players. All this Steam hype didn't last long. [03-May-22 12:27 PM] allocater#0000 as long as 10% stick, should be fine [03-May-22 12:33 PM] yang_mills#0000 The devs announced that after the new custom contracts system they will implement faction quests. Perhaps this will help with the new player retention by providing the beginners with something to do. [03-May-22 12:41 PM] namthorn#0000 hopefully it should hit both ends, something for beginners & also something for those that have finished building their empire to do [03-May-22 12:43 PM] yang_mills#0000 Devs also plan an expansion of the politics. This is aimed at the late game players. [04-May-22 05:48 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone Take note of how Yaro decided to leave corp. If you ever decide that this game is not for you or you find yourself no longer wanting to play, that is perfectly fine. Please leave corp the correct way. At the very minimum, leave the corporation in game. We prefer that you transfer your goods to members within corp before you quit but that is not required. Failing to leave corp in game means all shareholders lose out on potential dividend earnings as your account would still be active and accruing your share, as well as leaving us with a potential gap in production that we are not aware we need to fill. With that being said, your personal life needs to take priority over this game. We understand that and incorporate it into our strategies. My hope is that you all have as much fun playing this game as I do, and that being a member of OOG is a pleasurable experience, as we all share the same ultimate goal of being #spacerich! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (9) [04-May-22 06:00 PM] domicius#0000 Hear hear! [05-May-22 01:01 PM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [05-May-22 01:02 PM] rune_242#0000 [05-May-22 01:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome to OOG corporation [05-May-22 01:02 PM] rune_242#0000 Welcome! [05-May-22 01:02 PM] Deleted User#0000 Hey, my name is Seran im a friend [05-May-22 01:03 PM] Deleted User#0000 i'm a rookie [05-May-22 01:03 PM] Deleted User#0000 XD [05-May-22 01:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 when you get a chance, please i lnclude your company name in your discord nickname like we have [05-May-22 01:03 PM] Deleted User#0000 sure [05-May-22 01:03 PM] rune_242#0000 IonRemedy [05-May-22 01:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 feel free to ask any/all questions here. we have many experienced players and relatively new players alike [05-May-22 01:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye [05-May-22 01:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 A thanks [05-May-22 01:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i have to work for the next 6 hours or so, but i will be around a little bit. today is quite busy in game [05-May-22 01:05 PM] Deleted User#0000 Wel my friend will give me "in real life" more information [05-May-22 01:05 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye, one of the biggest players leaved the game? [05-May-22 01:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 indeed. [05-May-22 01:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 Now i need to join the corp? Xd how do i do that? [05-May-22 01:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 click on corp? [05-May-22 01:06 PM] rune_242#0000 I send an invite in game [05-May-22 01:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this requires an invite from an existing member [05-May-22 01:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 ah i see i'm invited [05-May-22 01:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @Deleted User we are happy to have you on recommendation from our trusted member @rune_242 . If for any reason you decide to stop playing, please do leave the corporation in game {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‰ [05-May-22 01:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we would be happy to invite you back in the future in any case. this is mainly for book keeping [05-May-22 01:08 PM] Deleted User#0000 sure i'l do what you ask [05-May-22 01:09 PM] Deleted User#0000 But i'll hope that i will understand this game and grind and crow [05-May-22 01:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we hope so too! in time you will see how being part of a big corp like this will help speed up your development in game [05-May-22 01:10 PM] Deleted User#0000 indeed [05-May-22 01:11 PM] Deleted User#0000 i'll see nothing in the "corp project"? Is that normal? [05-May-22 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we completed our HQ months ago on Nike [05-May-22 01:29 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the other projects are very expensive and offer no real in game benefit, so we focus our efforts elsewhere [05-May-22 01:29 PM] yang_mills#0000 [05-May-22 01:30 PM] Deleted User#0000 ok! Nice [05-May-22 01:30 PM] allocater#0000 [05-May-22 02:02 PM] Deleted User#0000 I don't quite understand the "PLI" phobes? I see that I can go to the Local market, and see that I can create an ad, but I don't see anything else. Can someone help me with something I don't quite get this. XD [05-May-22 02:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 Is PLI planetary information? [05-May-22 02:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes [05-May-22 02:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 well, planet id i think [05-May-22 02:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 PLI is planet information or planet ID [05-May-22 02:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 ye [05-May-22 02:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 it is used as `PLI ZV-307d` [05-May-22 02:04 PM] spatial_piano#0000 [05-May-22 02:07 PM] yang_mills#0000 Then one should see a screen with the total population, the bars for different extractable resources, a spinning planet, the name of the governor, and you can click on population infrastructure, local market, warehouse, chamber of global commerce and planetary administration centre. @Deleted User could post a capture of your screen, so others see what you see? [05-May-22 02:08 PM] Deleted User#0000 Soon [05-May-22 02:38 PM] insensless72#0000 [05-May-22 03:28 PM] insensless72#0000 Well.. 11 days late, but I just realized OOG is officially 1 year old! Happy belated lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (5) ๐ŸŽ‚ (9) [05-May-22 05:55 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have come so far. Thanks everyone for helping make this group what it is today. [05-May-22 06:05 PM] domicius#0000 Huzzah! [05-May-22 06:48 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [06-May-22 09:41 AM] aegis76#0000 Joined the server. [06-May-22 11:22 AM] yang_mills#0000 [06-May-22 11:23 AM] aegis76#0000 Hey! [06-May-22 11:23 AM] yang_mills#0000 Hello, @aegis76 ! Nice to see you here. [06-May-22 11:23 AM] aegis76#0000 Thanks for the invite. Thought I'd check it out to see how it works [06-May-22 11:27 AM] yang_mills#0000 Let the other know your company code, the location of your base and what you produce there. [06-May-22 11:29 AM] aegis76#0000 My code is Vii and so far I produce AL on deimos [06-May-22 11:30 AM] aegis76#0000 So what would be the benefit of joining? I can help produce AL but if I'm trading internally for a lower price how do I expand? [06-May-22 11:31 AM] yang_mills#0000 You also are a supporter of the game at the planet level, aren't you? [06-May-22 11:31 AM] aegis76#0000 Yes I've bought the pack about 2 weeks ago [06-May-22 11:32 AM] yang_mills#0000 We also offer the basic prefabs at lower prices. [06-May-22 11:34 AM] aegis76#0000 Do I have to commit to a certain amount or can I sell when I need money to expand and then when I have enough production trade internally [06-May-22 11:38 AM] yang_mills#0000 Ask @insensless72 . He will explain you. [06-May-22 12:06 PM] insensless72#0000 [06-May-22 12:08 PM] allocater#0000 [06-May-22 12:09 PM] namthorn#0000 [06-May-22 12:11 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Benefits to joining corp are access to goods below market value, immediate access to players who are interested in purchasing your product, access to help shipping goods between planets and help with expansion. For example, if you wanted to ramp up your AL production on Deimos, you could purchase bfabs from me at corp cost (600 BSE and 800 BBH for example.). We also have funds set aside to provide starting loans to players if that is something that interests you, as we find investing in players that will stick around to be more profitable in the long run for corp [06-May-22 12:13 PM] insensless72#0000 All we ask is that if you decide this game or corp even is not for you, please leave it in game. We like to do a trial run for new players where you spend around 7 days in discord with us before joining in game. We find this works best, so you can feel out the Corp and the Corp can feel you out as a player. If after that trial is up, you decide you like the Corp and the game, we will officially invite you in game and you will begin receiving dividend payouts from our governor tax revenue [06-May-22 12:15 PM] insensless72#0000 We have plenty of experienced players with us and new players as well. If you have any questions feel free to ask just about anyone [06-May-22 01:29 PM] aegis76#0000 That sounds great! [06-May-22 02:43 PM] yjhasaday#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [07-May-22 12:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 game server down โ˜๏ธ โ˜ ๏ธ [07-May-22 12:53 PM] Deleted User#0000 I see [07-May-22 01:43 PM] Deleted User#0000 The game is available again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [07-May-22 01:44 PM] Deleted User#0000 and it is down {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ต (3) [07-May-22 01:45 PM] Deleted User#0000 rip rip rip [07-May-22 01:49 PM] domicius#0000 Yeah.... โ˜ ๏ธ [07-May-22 03:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable (better every minute!!!) [07-May-22 03:46 PM] yang_mills#0000 Same [07-May-22 03:48 PM] Deleted User#0000 what is goin on [07-May-22 04:38 PM] domicius#0000 Up now [07-May-22 06:10 PM] aegis76#0000 If I were to sell AL to someone in Corp how much would it go for? [07-May-22 06:14 PM] yang_mills#0000 Ask @allocater. He needs a lot of AL. [07-May-22 08:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i have open buy offers for 185 AL @80k on Nike [08-May-22 01:41 AM] allocater#0000 I pay 370 on deimos, 400 on Nike [09-May-22 07:35 AM] Deleted User#0000 Hey, i need BSE the current price is 1550 can i have it on a better price? Does enyone sell those? [09-May-22 07:35 AM] Deleted User#0000 Its for building rigs [09-May-22 07:36 AM] Deleted User#0000 and other pioneer (buildings) [09-May-22 08:41 AM] namthorn#0000 yea people sell bfabs fairly cheap here. Nike's the construction hub so typically that's where you'll need to go to pick them up. [09-May-22 08:42 AM] Deleted User#0000 Ok, I make ads for it but what is the price for BFabs on Nike [09-May-22 08:48 AM] namthorn#0000 iirc the usual price is 600/u for BSE, 800/u for BDE/BBH and 500/u for BTA [09-May-22 03:04 PM] insensless72#0000 How many do you need? You can check my current supply in #๐Ÿšงnike-hq at the prices mentioned above ^^ [09-May-22 03:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 Hey, is BUYING me who buys or is that selling [09-May-22 03:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 If its says, BUY 600 for 1$ than i can buy that 600 for 1$ [09-May-22 03:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 or not [09-May-22 03:13 PM] domicius#0000 Correct [09-May-22 03:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 i need fuel is that right? [09-May-22 03:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/973316961436065792/mm.PNG?ex=6815278e&is=6813d60e&hm=9b606e77e2cfcdf024155aaf45aa90af9c947869f8b9b6e6db5486ba6bfdb414& [09-May-22 03:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 i need that [09-May-22 03:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 i goin to deimos i can use it to fly [09-May-22 03:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 Its says that my RATE is to low, so, i cant buy it but i need it [09-May-22 03:16 PM] Deleted User#0000 Singularity Technology is the creator [09-May-22 03:16 PM] Deleted User#0000 SAD [09-May-22 03:17 PM] domicius#0000 Rate? [09-May-22 03:17 PM] domicius#0000 Ah yes, he's set a minimum rating of B [09-May-22 03:17 PM] domicius#0000 He is not selling to you. You would have to give him 300 FTL [09-May-22 03:18 PM] domicius#0000 Sorry, I thought you meant BUYING if You post the ad [09-May-22 03:18 PM] domicius#0000 Think of it as the buyer sitting on the Local Market shouting "BUYING 300 FTL"! [09-May-22 03:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 So buying is another person who wants somting , selling is you that can buy that [09-May-22 03:20 PM] Deleted User#0000 *bad english* [09-May-22 03:33 PM] domicius#0000 It has to be one way or the other... [09-May-22 03:35 PM] Deleted User#0000 XD [09-May-22 03:44 PM] insensless72#0000 In this instance, if you took that ad you would owe them the fuel, and they would owe you 2 AIC [09-May-22 03:45 PM] Deleted User#0000 So i need to lurn -_- [09-May-22 03:46 PM] insensless72#0000 What you would be looking for would be "selling" ads, unless you posted a "buying" ad and someone else provided you the fuel [09-May-22 03:46 PM] insensless72#0000 This ๐Ÿ˜‚ [09-May-22 03:46 PM] Deleted User#0000 hh [09-May-22 08:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 15 minute mute [10-May-22 04:43 AM] rune_242#0000 is there a list of what you'l need for upgrading your hq? [10-May-22 04:52 AM] namthorn#0000 https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [10-May-22 07:47 AM] rune_242#0000 awesome [10-May-22 10:16 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone today I woke up to this message from alucard998, who i have traded with on many occasions. He also built the LIB and UNI infrastructure buildings on phobos if i recall correctly [10-May-22 10:16 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ```heya~ I come today as an ambassador from ANTS. After some discussion, we have agreed that OOG is a large contributor to the prosperity and development of the Antares region, and as such, we have some interest in developing closer ties with you folks. I think we'd be happy to invite anyone interested to our affiliate channels in our discord, or (since we're smaller and likely less active) if you run one, we'd have our interested members join your discord to communicate and develop and general awareness of how we can better work together``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Š (3) [10-May-22 10:18 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There is no expectation about joining different discords. im not 100% sure i want to invite ANTs in here either [10-May-22 10:18 AM] namthorn#0000 their affiliate channels aren't super active. I've been lurking there for months and there's been a grand total of 9 messages this year [10-May-22 10:20 AM] namthorn#0000 i'd have to wonder what the purpose would be of something like this though, what can we discuss in a new channel that we can't do on the UFO discord currently? [10-May-22 10:23 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This is a good question, I dont know either. I expect that they want us to help build things. [10-May-22 10:24 AM] rune_242#0000 I'm not in to it but I haven't been a member for very long [10-May-22 10:44 AM] spoooperz#0000 I'm just here to mine man {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [10-May-22 10:56 AM] domicius#0000 I'm neutral, but I do think that it makes more sense to collaborate on something specific, rather than in general. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-May-22 11:27 AM] allocater#0000 I am interested what they have in mind. I assume that affiliate channel is only the first step, otherwise I'd be a dud ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-May-22 12:05 PM] insensless72#0000 Idk how I feel about them joining our discord. I feel as though that could get very messy very quickly. I am open to an affiliate channel outside of OBCM if they want to manage it [10-May-22 12:06 PM] insensless72#0000 Collaboration for Antares is in all of our best interest, I just don't want OBCM to become their driving force for the changes they wish to see [10-May-22 12:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 exactly. There are some powerhouse players in ants for sure, and they built the majority of this region in the early game, but i think they are looking to tap into our large scale ops here [10-May-22 12:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 they did some similar outreach in the early game, and of course the timing was wrong at that point because we were still working on our first bases, counting pennies, etc. [10-May-22 05:13 PM] stuckintraffic9155#0000 Joined the server. [10-May-22 05:14 PM] insensless72#0000 [10-May-22 05:15 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Jables Fabs is a buddy I have irl. He set up on Deimos as a constructor and is getting the feel of the game [10-May-22 05:25 PM] thummper#0000 [10-May-22 05:36 PM] namthorn#0000 [10-May-22 05:52 PM] yang_mills#0000 [10-May-22 05:52 PM] yang_mills#0000 [10-May-22 06:26 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [10-May-22 07:17 PM] stuckintraffic9155#0000 https://tenor.com/view/robin-w-illiams-whats-up-wazzup-swag-swagger-gif-5389569 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/robin-w-illiams-whats-up-wazzup-swag-swagger-gif-5389569 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Qgvwji3AYfiHdCvM31SeNjAsbLMiJYjBxhMCTfjKYa0/https/media.tenor.com/u4cQa-h5F34AAAAD/robin-w-illiams-whats-up.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (5) [11-May-22 01:28 AM] allocater#0000 [11-May-22 01:34 AM] rune_242#0000 [11-May-22 02:06 AM] rune_242#0000 @stuckintraffic9155 what do you make? [13-May-22 11:22 AM] thummper#0000 @allocater Will you be flying to / back from Moria any time soon? [13-May-22 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 ship docks at moria in 14h [13-May-22 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 so you can go shopping [13-May-22 11:26 AM] thummper#0000 How much would 24 MHL cost me? [13-May-22 11:28 AM] allocater#0000 70k [13-May-22 11:29 AM] thummper#0000 is AIC fine [13-May-22 11:29 AM] allocater#0000 yes [13-May-22 11:30 AM] allocater#0000 if you want to WEL, the I would be 17k [13-May-22 11:37 AM] thummper#0000 Could you get me 8 instead then [13-May-22 11:39 AM] allocater#0000 8 MHL = 23k [13-May-22 11:39 AM] thummper#0000 yeah that would be great thank you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-May-22 12:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/unlae1/a_bears_dream_how_many_of_these_are_you_bagholding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf {Embed} https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/unlae1/a_bears_dream_how_many_of_these_are_you_bagholding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf r/wallstreetbets - A Bear's Dream ๐Ÿป How many of these are you bagho... 1,336 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GTLPJaaBQlgLlYcTLdoPWjPDG7g4F-Tc9wQQVKKHdAs/%3Fformat%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D84b1ba6618d1b534e577cf58ac56293359636a01/https/external-preview.redd.it/_8DfX4LSfDufAL_tSBWqhgjK4RwggmKojVffN0fkvU0.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“‰ [14-May-22 02:15 AM] allocater#0000 do you get notifications if your name is edited into an old post? [14-May-22 07:09 AM] namthorn#0000 no i dont think so {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜” [14-May-22 01:25 PM] allocater#0000 So what happened to this affiliate channel, how do I join there? [14-May-22 03:18 PM] yang_mills#0000 @aegis76 Welcome to our corporation! [14-May-22 03:19 PM] aegis76#0000 Thank you! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (3) [14-May-22 03:19 PM] insensless72#0000 Its still in the works {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-May-22 09:06 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Here is my response to alucard998: ```mememan โ€” 05/12/2022 Hello, thanks for the diplomatic outreach, it is appreciated ๐Ÿ™‚ We also see ourselves as a major economic player in the region, and take pride in our long standing local businesses/investments. I have copy pasted your message directly to our corp discord with no edits so that everyone could comment. Our general consensus is that we are open to working with ANTs on for scoping and delivering on specific projects, but we are wary of spreading communications over multiple discords or bringing non-shareholders into our own. Perhaps a single affiliate channel can be used for inviting OOG members and collaborating on a to-be-determined project``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [16-May-22 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000 Do someone have [16-May-22 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000 BSE BBH and BDE [16-May-22 01:39 AM] allocater#0000 yeah on Nike and Deimos [16-May-22 01:40 AM] allocater#0000 also DLR has now giant reservoir on ... ANT? [16-May-22 01:42 AM] Deleted User#0000 Ok I'll make ads [16-May-22 01:42 AM] Deleted User#0000 Is there a lot of basic recourses [16-May-22 04:21 PM] namthorn#0000 well that's something I haven't seen before ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/975870634003402832/unknown.png?ex=68148e99&is=68133d19&hm=38a5e5982823fafebb4c0ebf554d9d02bdbea1ffa34d7027c3a635616805f3d2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ถ [16-May-22 04:24 PM] rune_242#0000 my god [16-May-22 04:24 PM] rune_242#0000 people really want AL๐Ÿ˜… [16-May-22 04:30 PM] namthorn#0000 yet another reason to never look at the fin buffers I suppose [17-May-22 01:44 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Does anyone make COF in corp? The market situation is ridiculous. [17-May-22 01:44 PM] spatial_piano#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/976193616978530304/unknown.png?ex=681512a7&is=6813c127&hm=3cd623b7aa228ef746b617559c43c95f410761d9e884d3bb18fad60aab0c32ac& [17-May-22 01:45 PM] allocater#0000 @thummper is starting now with COF [17-May-22 01:47 PM] thummper#0000 Will ramp up tomorrow when ship brings supplies but everything is set up [17-May-22 01:50 PM] thummper#0000 Is 350 an okay price? [17-May-22 01:51 PM] allocater#0000 yup that was the stable price before the shortage [17-May-22 02:09 PM] thummper#0000 Think my cost is about 310 per unit DW cost is killing me a little [17-May-22 02:09 PM] allocater#0000 you can get DW at 50 [17-May-22 02:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I can also provide cheap H2O on harmonia, I have rigs but nothing to consume the h2o [17-May-22 02:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this puts more pressure on your FP but would stop you from getting killed on DW prices. [17-May-22 02:11 PM] thummper#0000 I go through 365 H20/day also [17-May-22 02:12 PM] thummper#0000 I will look at producing some DW as well and what the best recipe chain is for me [17-May-22 02:13 PM] thummper#0000 Is worker consumption linear? Like i have 1 PIO uses 0.04 DW / RAT per day [17-May-22 02:13 PM] thummper#0000 @ 1140 PIO [17-May-22 02:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have 1500 H2O now, and 115 per day. Also I can provide PG on harmonia to make DW more efficiently [17-May-22 02:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this should fix it in the short term at least, yea? [17-May-22 02:14 PM] thummper#0000 Yeah [17-May-22 02:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also there is still allocaters cheap DW [17-May-22 02:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes it is linear [17-May-22 02:15 PM] thummper#0000 what do you sell h20 for? [17-May-22 02:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 eh. I can go 10 each i think. Is this a good discount? I dont know what the prices normally are on harmonia Lm [17-May-22 02:16 PM] allocater#0000 20 [17-May-22 02:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wow what a scam [17-May-22 02:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 should be 15 [17-May-22 02:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 anyways, 10 each from me, I dont want to ship it and have no good use for it. [17-May-22 02:17 PM] thummper#0000 can I have it all? [17-May-22 02:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 sure, all 1500 [17-May-22 02:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 and 150 PG if you like, 16 each [17-May-22 02:19 PM] thummper#0000 thank you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ โ˜• [17-May-22 02:25 PM] thummper#0000 Yeah 70-30 COF DW covers me and should cut my costs a lot [17-May-22 02:26 PM] thummper#0000 oh and new expert + COF pushes me to 50 C / day also :) [17-May-22 07:14 PM] stuckintraffic9155#0000 Thanks everyone for welcoming me. currently, i'm producing B fabs. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—๏ธ (3) [17-May-22 08:30 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/976295716265811968/image.png?ex=6814c8fd&is=6813777d&hm=f46b64e9089978fc27697bae04b96909d3412acace256e1a491c27a17aefc0f8& [17-May-22 08:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 do you think elon plays prosperous universe? ๐Ÿ‘=yes. ๐Ÿ‘Ž=no. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Ž (4) ๐Ÿ‘ [17-May-22 08:34 PM] insensless72#0000 No but should [17-May-22 08:34 PM] insensless72#0000 @ him on the bird app ๐Ÿ˜‚ [20-May-22 08:11 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hey all, anyone have or make RCO anywhere? [20-May-22 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 I can make it on harmonia if orders come in [20-May-22 12:53 PM] yang_mills#0000 Same answer. I can produce RCO on Harmonia. [20-May-22 01:01 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I talked to allocater a bit already and placed an order with him, but I would be happy to buy an order from you as well. I make COT out of it so my plant would be dead if I run out - I'd rather have too much then not enough! No rush (I have some to last me at least another 10 days) but if you could make me 20-30 I would happily buy it off you! [20-May-22 01:04 PM] yang_mills#0000 Ok. I can produce 20 RCO for you. How much do you pay per unit? [20-May-22 01:06 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Thank you! Usually I buy off market for anywhere between like $475-$550. Right now the market is empty though, that's why I'm coming to corp. [20-May-22 01:09 PM] yang_mills#0000 I will ask then 450 AIC/u. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [22-May-22 01:01 PM] allocater#0000 when do you get 8 queue slots? [22-May-22 01:09 PM] namthorn#0000 lvl 10 hq if https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ is accurate {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe {Reactions} ๐Ÿคž [23-May-22 02:01 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Am I the bad guys? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/978372119442366464/unknown.png?ex=6815168a&is=6813c50a&hm=0df5c3429de116b6bd0aee1ecec1404f6a76dc8d9500a2e449b9953a397cee73& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [23-May-22 02:10 PM] domicius#0000 Depends what you're selling? [23-May-22 02:47 PM] spatial_piano#0000 PWO [23-May-22 03:28 PM] domicius#0000 I'm glad I just bought a bundle then! [23-May-22 04:05 PM] namthorn#0000 eesh, then yes you are the baddie! no more can we unilaterally recommend PWO to new players! [23-May-22 05:53 PM] churavis#0000 Joined the server. [23-May-22 05:53 PM] megasaberexe#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 05:56 PM] namthorn#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 05:56 PM] churavis#0000 [23-May-22 06:30 PM] yang_mills#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 06:41 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome @churavis! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 07:32 PM] yjhasaday#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 07:36 PM] insensless72#0000 Wheres your setup and whats your specialty @churavis? Ill get your roles set up in the discord [23-May-22 07:36 PM] churavis#0000 I'm a convenience store on Harmonia [23-May-22 07:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome to OOG [23-May-22 07:37 PM] insensless72#0000 Nice! [23-May-22 07:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We appreciate convenience on harmonia. [23-May-22 07:37 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 back in my day, it didnt even have a local market [23-May-22 07:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 very inconvnenientโ€ฆ [23-May-22 07:42 PM] insensless72#0000 @churavis Referring you to these messages for more info {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 07:47 PM] churavis#0000 By convenience store I mean that I'm the only manufacturing setup on Harmonia [23-May-22 07:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have @cazertanu doing something along those lines, but only 1-2 BMP [23-May-22 07:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 it is a nice spot to make safety uniforms and overalls [23-May-22 07:48 PM] churavis#0000 I looked at making safety uniforms but there didn't seem to be much of a market [23-May-22 07:48 PM] churavis#0000 Safety is overrated I guess [23-May-22 07:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 OOG is most of the local demand, since we govern 2 planets and need it for the infrastructure [23-May-22 07:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but we tend to look internally for niche items like this [23-May-22 07:51 PM] churavis#0000 I just got a WPL and am churning out PWO as fast as I can {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘• (2) [23-May-22 07:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 How many of each production building? [23-May-22 07:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I bet you could do quite well selling in our #๐Ÿ‡harmonia channel [23-May-22 07:53 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 sorry if that pinged everyone [23-May-22 07:53 PM] insensless72#0000 only @ pings [23-May-22 07:53 PM] churavis#0000 I've got lots of MCG and PG in stock [23-May-22 07:56 PM] churavis#0000 So far I've got 3 BMP, 1 COL, 1 INC, 2 FRM, 1 POL and 1 WPL [23-May-22 07:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 very vertical, cool [23-May-22 07:58 PM] churavis#0000 I try to follow the market and no one was selling RCO or COT [23-May-22 07:58 PM] churavis#0000 Probably because it's way more profitable to just turn it into PWO [23-May-22 07:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 that is a unique setup on harmonia. vertical RCO -> BMP products is a massive advantage over standard manufacturing [23-May-22 07:59 PM] churavis#0000 That was the idea when I chose the planet as a new player [23-May-22 08:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 with cheaper large scale PG/PE you could do alot with that business model [23-May-22 08:01 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah but expensive fabs were stifling my expansion plans so my next move is to set up a construction base on NIKE [23-May-22 08:03 PM] insensless72#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing Here is our corporate information sheet. Feel free to take a look over it and add your own section. Page 2 includes corporate prices that you can utilize. This helps members figure our what they can buy from you and visa versa {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets PLANETS >>>,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,Time Zone # OF BASES >>,11,8,6,8,3,1,1,3,1,1,1,1 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, or production at the end of a vertical production chain ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [23-May-22 08:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 we are all about cheap bfabs on nike ๐Ÿ™‚ [23-May-22 08:04 PM] churavis#0000 I was going to go straight to the PP2 since it can make everything the PP1 can but with cheaper ALO [23-May-22 08:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 indeed, this is what we do at large scale on deimos and nike, but AL smelting is the bottleneck [23-May-22 08:05 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 certainly better than FE, but still it is the limit [23-May-22 08:05 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah, I actually would have made a base on Deimos but it filled up just a few days ago [23-May-22 08:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oof [23-May-22 08:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @Deimos we depend on your AL. [23-May-22 08:07 PM] churavis#0000 I suppose it's possible that enough newbies will get bored and leave but I'm not holding my breath [23-May-22 08:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 anyways, you are welcome to hang out here and associate with OOG members, i think you will fit it quite well {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ‘ [23-May-22 08:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you like it after a week or so, we would be happy to invite you in game officially [23-May-22 08:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this is our loose procedure for bringing on new members [23-May-22 08:08 PM] churavis#0000 I read the message, it sounds like a plan to me {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [23-May-22 08:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Make sure to look over that corp sheet and just let any of us know if you have any questions. Glad to have you! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-May-22 01:55 PM] churavis#0000 What do you guys think the chances of a Deimos plot opening up are? [24-May-22 02:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 pretty decent within the next month i think. Any unexpected new player rush in the near future would be bad news as far as open plots go [25-May-22 09:13 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Guys, it appears molp is passing through our space! He took one of my ads on Nike - should we roll out a red carpet?! ๐Ÿ˜† [25-May-22 09:13 AM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979024346007875634/unknown.png?ex=6814d2f9&is=68138179&hm=4a26900a830cc01a6a052a8bebb90ba5f610fd2d2fc0b07355efcdb1880d45f2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [25-May-22 09:48 AM] namthorn#0000 if by "red carpet" you mean "mountain of limestone", we could. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [25-May-22 01:51 PM] yang_mills#0000 Such an honor! [25-May-22 03:23 PM] insensless72#0000 Is anyone else having this issue? The game will not load PLI ZV-194a for me {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979117620416626719/unknown.png?ex=681529d7&is=6813d857&hm=3b72247fcf6a0a36bf80d448122530e5cffb6dabf73ce02a9532582151d13db1& [25-May-22 03:25 PM] churavis#0000 It loads fine for me [25-May-22 03:26 PM] insensless72#0000 This is my Planet screen... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979118193819938856/unknown.png?ex=68152a60&is=6813d8e0&hm=8a368d9039b66f95e67546a69651d0cd3cf840649327f7a089c15fdd50fe0e12& [25-May-22 03:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 database โ˜ ๏ธ [25-May-22 03:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh, try restarting your browser completely @insensless72 [25-May-22 03:27 PM] churavis#0000 Someone on the PrUn help channel said some clusters went down, not sure what that means though [25-May-22 03:27 PM] insensless72#0000 lol "have you tried turning it off and turning it on again??" {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979118616467374180/unknown.png?ex=68152ac5&is=6813d945&hm=33b1ec9f9eb54cd9b384504aaf7ecd143f339b0edfb470a69309ab6d26b519f3& [25-May-22 05:19 PM] churavis#0000 Spacedock just posted a video with a sponsorship of PrUn, prepare for an influx of new players https://youtu.be/rSWACQl_m9s {Embed} Spacedock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSWACQl_m9s Space Elevators in Science Fiction Check out Prosperous Universe with this link and support Spacedock! https://prosperousuniverse.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=sponsored&utm_campaign=spacedock&utm_content=video5 Spacedock delves into the fascinating but flawed concept of Space Elevators. THE SOJOURN - AN ORIGINAL SCI-FI AUDIO DRAMA: https://www.thesojournaudiodrama.com/ B... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wXNZ6eaFg1KG36CnMyvbh_xlo38k9kqvZJwsjQiqTQo/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/rSWACQl_m9s/maxresdefault.jpg [25-May-22 05:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 sorry about your Deimos base situation @churavis [25-May-22 05:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If you stick with us and still need aluminum, I guarantee a solution (with our without deimos) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-May-22 05:26 PM] churavis#0000 There are 3 plots still open and thanks to you guys I've been able to arrange for all the core materials to be on the way, hopefully they'll get there in time {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ [25-May-22 05:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 good luck on your base race! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-May-22 08:55 AM] namthorn#0000 weekly reminder that the plastics market is wide open: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979382189647085578/unknown.png?ex=6814cebe&is=68137d3e&hm=8892b4ea9948ee7d0b362f72011258f6dc1b04265b81fbe2f537ca851c4478aa& [26-May-22 09:43 AM] churavis#0000 Would you be annoyed if one of us undercut you? [26-May-22 09:45 AM] namthorn#0000 nope [26-May-22 09:45 AM] namthorn#0000 CX market is fair game [26-May-22 09:46 AM] namthorn#0000 and I can't make plastic fast enough. I jacked up my price hugely because it was all selling out within a day at 35/u [26-May-22 09:46 AM] namthorn#0000 epo market is similar, stock usually all selsl within a week [26-May-22 09:46 AM] churavis#0000 That's good to know, I've got a load coming tomorrow that I'll likely price similarly [26-May-22 09:47 AM] churavis#0000 I wonder if I'm losing money turning it into PWO now [26-May-22 09:51 AM] namthorn#0000 if you're just interested in profit, dumping PG into the market is a decent idea atm. Someone's bound to do it. Big holes in high-volume goods markets don't tend to last. [26-May-22 09:52 AM] churavis#0000 Maybe, but PG products are up pretty high too, the CX has run out of PSL even [26-May-22 09:52 AM] namthorn#0000 0.o yea true that. even more of a case to get into plastics production [26-May-22 09:53 AM] churavis#0000 That's the plan after I snatch up the last plot on Deimos {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-May-22 09:54 AM] churavis#0000 Crap, it's gone now [26-May-22 10:26 AM] yang_mills#0000 @spatial_piano Do you sell AMM? [26-May-22 12:27 PM] churavis#0000 A plot just opened up and I got it: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979435513448628344/unknown.png?ex=68150067&is=6813aee7&hm=4fa8041fc2fb1b490a71b6e1013c38b475603fe4ea043fb35d6cd85c5145da19& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (6) [26-May-22 02:33 PM] allocater#0000 I have these bfabs on deimos for your base build-up: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/979467293757145198/unknown.png?ex=68151e00&is=6813cc80&hm=763e3aa0a45db6ae744415a42ce8d45459473e2fb2d2658fd7ccb7af5c0f55bd& [26-May-22 02:36 PM] churavis#0000 Thank you, I will likely take you up on that once I get MCG, consumables and inputs shipped over from Harmonia {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-May-22 05:11 AM] thummper#0000 @allocater could you buy 50k AIC at like 0.98 ICA? is that bad for you? [27-May-22 05:29 AM] allocater#0000 sell 1 DW for 50k ICA and I will accept. LM has no fee ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-May-22 05:32 AM] thummper#0000 On harmonia [27-May-22 05:34 AM] thummper#0000 perfect thank you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [27-May-22 10:03 AM] yjhasaday#0000 hi all, my next base I want to get into H extraction because my REFs can eat wild amounts of it. For a planet that is gaseous and low temp what other materials will I need to build on it? (I was surprised by the SEA requirement when I expanded to Nike and didn't factor it into budget) This will be my first time expanding to a planet where I need some serious extra mats [27-May-22 10:04 AM] namthorn#0000 gaseous = AEF instead of MCG, low temp = INS [27-May-22 10:05 AM] namthorn#0000 ratios are listed here if you have your own base building sheets: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/building-costs/ prunner and the prebuilt base planning sheets autocalc how much you need {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/building-costs/ Building costs :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [27-May-22 10:06 AM] allocater#0000 good timing, you can also mine some H for my new PE production ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-May-22 10:07 AM] rune_242#0000 ZV-759g/IY-816h/ZV-307g are the best H planets [27-May-22 10:07 AM] namthorn#0000 KI-401d is a good go-to [27-May-22 10:07 AM] namthorn#0000 or ant IIg for a closer alternative with lower concentration [27-May-22 10:07 AM] rune_242#0000 this is the best๐Ÿ˜… [27-May-22 10:08 AM] rune_242#0000 I'm so wrong๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [27-May-22 10:08 AM] namthorn#0000 nah you're right about the close ones, logistics is also a factor [27-May-22 10:08 AM] namthorn#0000 no use setting up a base if you can't transport the stuff [27-May-22 10:11 AM] yjhasaday#0000 ummm I'm actually thinking of joining Mark on QJ-382g because it has lots of H but also a good amount of AMM for my REFs as well, its 3 jumps from ANT [27-May-22 10:11 AM] namthorn#0000 2 for the price of 1, sounds like a plan. [28-May-22 12:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone big news this weekend for OOG! First up: The "OOG 2000" FTL ship has been completed by our shipbuilding crew, and is ready for assembly on Hephaestus. After much consideration, We have decided to give this ship to our very own @yang_mills , with shipbuilders paid out of the bank as if we had sold normally. Yang has the greatest uncompensated contribution to OOG to date, and is among our most active players. Congrats Yang! ๐Ÿš€ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (7) ๐Ÿš€ (4) [28-May-22 12:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Secondly, I would like to endorse @namthorn as the first governor of KI-446b, as he is an excellent choice for the job and has expressed interest. I hope we can all vote in agreement! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (5) [28-May-22 01:25 PM] yang_mills#0000 I would like to thank the corp members for the trust. OOG 2000 is being built and will be ready in 24h. I consider calling it OOG 2000 - Tayra. Because Tayra is a Caldari hauler in EVE Online. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-May-22 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 nice. I expect we will build more of these 2k/2k FTL ships for OOG members in time. This makes me realize that soon we will need to stop naming them by their cargo capacityโ€ฆ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ โ˜๏ธ [28-May-22 01:32 PM] churavis#0000 We could name sequentially, so Booger 1, Booger 2, etc [28-May-22 01:32 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lol. I think I prefer Tayra [28-May-22 01:33 PM] allocater#0000 construction name for the next one is OOG 2001 ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-May-22 01:34 PM] namthorn#0000 we need to make a fully decked out ship and call it the OOG-9001 ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-May-22 01:35 PM] namthorn#0000 hyper power reactors, the full works [28-May-22 01:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have looked into this. It requires einsteinium enrichment and some heavy AML, AST, APF work [28-May-22 01:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 super expensive. I would be inclined to sell such a thing to the highest bidder, like the original FTL build [28-May-22 01:37 PM] namthorn#0000 yea, is on the list, might just set up a temp base somewhere for a little LES next [28-May-22 01:37 PM] namthorn#0000 most planets that have it are complete rubbish for a permanent permit [28-May-22 01:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 With some planning and EES, and extra metal, money and time investment, we can build it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [28-May-22 01:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but really i would like to sell it. I think we can pull over 8 million [28-May-22 01:40 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @allocater in case you didnt see this. I am being serious [28-May-22 01:43 PM] namthorn#0000 I'll work on the EEP next then. Need a couple of hq upgrades and then just need to figure out if the TSH or INS + HSE comes out cheaper, leaning towards INS + HSE as I have the HSE already [28-May-22 01:45 PM] allocater#0000 doesn't seem like a problem from the end-chain, you just need to get the raw materials to heph ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-May-22 01:45 PM] allocater#0000 for AAF addons we obviously need to build AAF (again) [28-May-22 02:12 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I still have the Afabs from tearing it down, just need a couple to replace the ones lost during operation - which is 1 of each Afab [28-May-22 02:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 no good buyers for those STS, sadly [28-May-22 02:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but of course we put one of the STS on this hypothetical 9001 ship [28-May-22 02:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I think the SPP is most notably absent. [28-May-22 02:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @namthorn this building has some flashy upgrades for ships, definitely value added. the operator needs kevlar and technetium [28-May-22 02:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also of course the einsteinium situation [28-May-22 02:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 how much INS are you looking for? [28-May-22 02:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have it on Nike [28-May-22 02:49 PM] namthorn#0000 650 I think, CM, HB1 & 2 COLs [28-May-22 03:17 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Hello @everyone! Unfortunately RL stuff will be needing a lot more of my time in the next few months, so I'll be leaving the game within 2 weeks. Before that I'll need to hand over the SPF to somebody on Hephaestus, and most likely the PPFs as well. Also, if somebody wants to make a base on QJ-382g I can hand my stuff over there directly. If not I'll start shutting the base down next week and have everything shipped from there to ANT I planets and CX. Other bases I'll shut down the week after and when that is done all my inventories will be for grabs. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข (4) ๐Ÿ˜ญ (3) [28-May-22 03:20 PM] yang_mills#0000 The OOG-2000-Tayra can ship your stuff from QJ-382g to ANT I. I also have free space on Hephaestus. [28-May-22 03:22 PM] insensless72#0000 @allocater @bitcoin_ape I have a base permit free and can take over @spatial_piano ship building portion {Reactions} โค๏ธ ๐Ÿš€ [28-May-22 03:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Thank you for all you have done for OOG, really sad to see you go! If you decide you want to step back in next universe theres always a spot for you. Good luck irl and safe travels friend [28-May-22 03:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @spatial_piano Thanks for all of your contributions along the way. [28-May-22 03:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We hope to see you later this game, or even next universe like insensless said. Thanks for the advanced notice and graceful exit [28-May-22 03:32 PM] yang_mills#0000 Thank you for everything! I hope you will return later at some point. The game is about to become more interesting, and it will be worth to check it in a couple of month. Actually I wanted to build a base on QJ-382g. But right now I don't have a free permit. However, this should not take much time. [28-May-22 03:39 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Does anyone have 10 POW (Power Cell)? This is to upgrade my HQ. [28-May-22 03:46 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Thanks for all the well wishes. I've had a great time with the game and the corp, and I'll definitely try to come back to the game when I have more free time. Next time I'll probably want to try food production, since it seems less time intensive and it's basically the only thing I haven't done in the game yet. {Reactions} ๐Ÿž (2) ๐Ÿค— (2) [28-May-22 03:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 harmonia and ki-446b will be waiting for you, or perhaps other breadbaskets yet unknown ๐Ÿ˜ [28-May-22 03:54 PM] allocater#0000 yes, I supply all SP for 1000/u on phobos [28-May-22 03:56 PM] yang_mills#0000 ad is up [28-May-22 03:57 PM] allocater#0000 oops that was SP price, no matter, good deal for you ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-May-22 03:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 What's your price for POW? I can also pay the difference. [28-May-22 04:01 PM] allocater#0000 3k [28-May-22 04:02 PM] yang_mills#0000 Post an add, 1 DW for 20 K. [28-May-22 04:02 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Sorry to see you go! Thanks for all your help ๐Ÿค. I am in the process of starting a base on QJ-382g so I would love to buy some base materials if there's a LM there? I'll push it up my priority list to get this going! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [28-May-22 04:05 PM] spatial_piano#0000 There is an LM, but no WAR so I'll have to do the posting until you have the base started. [28-May-22 04:06 PM] yang_mills#0000 @yjhasaday @spatial_piano Let me know when you need to ship to/from QJ-382g. I will fly there with Tayra. [28-May-22 04:08 PM] allocater#0000 The name will now always remind me of the loss of 98 Starfleet ships in the Tayra sector ๐Ÿ˜… [28-May-22 04:09 PM] allocater#0000 (turns out it's written Tyra) [28-May-22 04:16 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Here's the current QJ inventory. There's also a lot of BSEs, AEFs and INS reclaimable from the production buildings, so you can probably start with fabs for CM, some HB1s and a STO. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/980218048843751455/unknown.png?ex=68148d72&is=68133bf2&hm=41d88325da5a7495ca5cb4a103544be6f02b8bf423a34f62d44f30e57feb8667& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ [28-May-22 04:43 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Awesome thanks! The AEF will help a lot, I just bought some NE to make some. [30-May-22 10:15 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, does anyone else in the corp make PSL? I need 12 for my QJ-382g base but I believe @spatial_piano is out of stock. I'm also looking to buy RAT/DW for this new base - I put quite a few ads up on Phobos if anyone has some to fill ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-May-22 11:08 AM] churavis#0000 Someone needs to make a manufacturing base with a PPF and that someone is probably going to need to be me [30-May-22 11:08 AM] domicius#0000 Anyone have LBH? [30-May-22 11:50 AM] rune_242#0000 I do [30-May-22 11:50 AM] rune_242#0000 24 I think [30-May-22 11:50 AM] rune_242#0000 On nike [30-May-22 11:55 AM] allocater#0000 I have 12 PSL on ANT [30-May-22 11:57 AM] allocater#0000 Current base backlog: 2 AL bases on deimos BMP base on heph PPF base on heph RIG base on Etherwind POL base on Griffenstone ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-May-22 11:57 AM] allocater#0000 pump your permits up! [30-May-22 12:02 PM] domicius#0000 How much? [30-May-22 12:03 PM] rune_242#0000 euhhmmm [30-May-22 12:03 PM] rune_242#0000 @allocater what is the usual corp price? [30-May-22 12:04 PM] allocater#0000 1400 [30-May-22 12:04 PM] rune_242#0000 1400 it is {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-May-22 12:04 PM] allocater#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=489658022 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets PLANETS >>>,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,KI-446b,Time Zone # OF BASES >>,11,13,12,10,5,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, or production at the end of a vertical prod... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [30-May-22 12:55 PM] domicius#0000 Ad up on Nike! [30-May-22 01:25 PM] churavis#0000 I am now an official Ooga Booger: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/980899726297817178/unknown.png?ex=68150e0e&is=6813bc8e&hm=667a4f1ef6614106a778f5beabd2fc813393a62d1a17017b259db115b76519d6& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (8) [30-May-22 01:37 PM] domicius#0000 Please remember to wear the robes at all Corp meetings {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ (3) [30-May-22 01:37 PM] domicius#0000 https://media.tenor.com/images/2f3690faf5a5b454f99a06e752a5fd31/tenor.gif {Embed} https://media.tenor.com/images/2f3690faf5a5b454f99a06e752a5fd31/tenor.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/p0Nct3xgkGSgvImSnDEfUP2BWdiMrHPoiLwsEhckQ2E/https/media.tenor.com/images/2f3690faf5a5b454f99a06e752a5fd31/tenor.gif [30-May-22 01:37 PM] churavis#0000 The grass ones? [31-May-22 07:59 AM] churavis#0000 Anyone else watching the twitch stream in two hours? [31-May-22 10:06 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I was going to put it on in the background but it looks like it was canceled. (according to the PrUn Discord Announcements channel) [31-May-22 10:07 AM] churavis#0000 Yeah, I just saw that. It's a shame because there are so few PRUN streams on twitch of any kind {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข [31-May-22 10:08 AM] churavis#0000 Apparently it's not a very exciting spectator sport {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [31-May-22 12:53 PM] demannu#0000 Joined the server. [31-May-22 12:53 PM] rune_242#0000 [31-May-22 12:54 PM] allocater#0000 [31-May-22 12:54 PM] rune_242#0000 are you a new corp member? [31-May-22 12:54 PM] demannu#0000 Hey everyone, just checking in during lunch. I was invited by @allocater I've been doing some contracts with them. Turns out I've been doing work with a few [OOG] so that's good news I'll check back in after work for a more indepth hullo, whatsa happenin tldr; Deimos occupant, AL producer, looking for my place in this world {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (5) [31-May-22 12:55 PM] rune_242#0000 yaaaaay a new member! [31-May-22 01:50 PM] yang_mills#0000 [31-May-22 03:44 PM] insensless72#0000 You will definitely fit right in then! Were always in the market for AL. Welcome! The following links are to messages further up the channel where I explained the joining process. When you get the time, message me your company code [31-May-22 03:45 PM] insensless72#0000 https://discordapp.com/channels/854795108720443393/854795108720443395/972183889881755698 https://discordapp.com/channels/854795108720443393/854795108720443395/972184381751984258 [31-May-22 04:03 PM] namthorn#0000 entire sector cannot get enough AL Give us all you have! (for an appropriate price of course) {Reactions} ๐Ÿช™ [31-May-22 04:24 PM] yang_mills#0000 There is a new corp of new players in Antares area: Stray Dogs Interstellar [SYDI]. 3 members: ATIA, PSTP and ZAF. [31-May-22 04:24 PM] churavis#0000 Hostile takeover? [31-May-22 04:25 PM] yang_mills#0000 No hostilities. Antares is large enough to support several corps. [31-May-22 04:25 PM] churavis#0000 But that's boring [31-May-22 04:25 PM] namthorn#0000 sadly not possible. else someone would do it lol [31-May-22 04:26 PM] insensless72#0000 We have merged corps in the past. Good ol Yaro was part of that merger [31-May-22 04:26 PM] insensless72#0000 If theyre new though no shot [31-May-22 04:42 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [31-May-22 06:08 PM] demannu#0000 Ah @yjhasaday You're the other friendly I've been doing business with, hello! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [31-May-22 06:09 PM] demannu#0000 I'm still testing the waters and learning the game, I've set aside 3 months of subscription to the game to give it a fair shake. I'm happy to hang around in Discord and continue serving contracts as I see them ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-May-22 06:11 PM] demannu#0000 Background for consideration: I'm a cloud developer, based in EST (Florida :rip:) My most active hours are before 8am EST and after 7:30pm EST. I tend to check in during lunch/meetings but can't conversate much during that time. I'm interested in founding a planet in the long distance future, but my immediate goals is vertically integrating the metallurgy industry with a sight on ship production and shipping itself. [31-May-22 06:13 PM] insensless72#0000 You found the right place my friend. Im EST as well and I teach so I am inactive throughout the day. All we require from you is friendly banter, cooperation and that you leave corp in game if you decide its not for you. Otherwise, play and expand at your own pace. Youll find with your specialty that we'll keep you engaged [31-May-22 06:13 PM] domicius#0000 We do lots of the ship building thing... [31-May-22 06:13 PM] insensless72#0000 โ˜๏ธ this also [31-May-22 07:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome @demannu [31-May-22 09:33 PM] demannu#0000 What's the vibe on me bringing my friend over into the corp as well? I got him into the game and don't want to abandon him to another corp :3 [31-May-22 09:34 PM] churavis#0000 How likely is he to stick with the game? Is he liking it? [31-May-22 09:35 PM] demannu#0000 He seems to be doing well with it, he's on par with me if not better [31-May-22 09:37 PM] insensless72#0000 is your friend also in Antares? [31-May-22 09:40 PM] demannu#0000 They are [31-May-22 09:40 PM] demannu#0000 Setup on harmonia to do Carbon production {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [31-May-22 09:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Sounds good to me, I think we can invite him [31-May-22 10:12 PM] exeler#0000 Joined the server. [31-May-22 10:12 PM] insensless72#0000 {Reactions} ditto [31-May-22 10:12 PM] demannu#0000 It's the friend I recommended! Welcome @exeler [31-May-22 10:13 PM] exeler#0000 Hello! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [31-May-22 10:13 PM] insensless72#0000 Hello @exeler welcome! Where is your setup and what is your specialty? [31-May-22 10:14 PM] insensless72#0000 Also send me your company code so I can get your roles set in discord [31-May-22 10:15 PM] exeler#0000 I'm pretty new, only have the one base so far. I've just got carbon farming going with the base setup recommended by the tutorial. I'm on Harmonica, ZV-896b [31-May-22 10:16 PM] demannu#0000 Company code: TER Terrascape [31-May-22 10:16 PM] exeler#0000 Yup, that's it. I knew I forgot something to include lol [31-May-22 10:19 PM] insensless72#0000 Awesome, welcome to OOG! TBH im very interested in both of your early game products along with several other members in corp. Feel free to hangout and utilize the discord. we have many players on Harmonia and Deimos both that need AL and C [31-May-22 10:21 PM] insensless72#0000 I told @demannu That we do a 7 day trial period, this allows you to feel out the corp and the corp to feel you out as a player. After that you will be officially invited to the corp in game. All we ask is that you keep it friendly, collaborate and leave corp in game if you decide it isnt for you. [31-May-22 10:22 PM] insensless72#0000 Other than that, play and expand at your own pace and have fun! We have many veteran players and inexperienced players both so if you have any questions feel free to reach out to just about anyone [31-May-22 10:25 PM] exeler#0000 Awesome, that sounds great! I've been playing pretty passively so far. Got everything set up to make 40 carbon every 3 days, and just checking in very occasionally. Was hoping to save up to build some new buildings so that there'd be slightly more to look at each time I log in. If carbon is in demand, I don't mind just adding more farms and incinerators to contribute more than just a small drop. [31-May-22 10:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome! [31-May-22 10:26 PM] insensless72#0000 We have 60 SMEs in total within corp buring C at all times [31-May-22 10:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 great to hear that. We always need more carbon, and more aluminum. It is like fuel for the fire ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-May-22 10:26 PM] insensless72#0000 plus PG production [01-Jun-22 02:04 AM] yang_mills#0000 {Reactions} partyglasses [01-Jun-22 02:42 AM] allocater#0000 {Reactions} thumbsupparrot [01-Jun-22 06:43 AM] domicius#0000 https://media.tenor.com/images/ca50460f0c04d65181426dd8d531d4b9/tenor.gif {Embed} https://media.tenor.com/images/ca50460f0c04d65181426dd8d531d4b9/tenor.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/f_4SXBav1kQybn4aB1KgQrDvt3lfIxADSlVOe__G9LY/https/media.tenor.com/images/ca50460f0c04d65181426dd8d531d4b9/tenor.gif [01-Jun-22 07:35 AM] thummper#0000 @allocater Would you swap 75k CIS for 75k AIC? [01-Jun-22 11:03 AM] allocater#0000 sure (I don't know which way, but both ways is fine ๐Ÿ˜„ ) sell 1 DW for x [01-Jun-22 12:00 PM] exeler#0000 Is there a "best" recipe for the incinerator to use? Looks like most of them seem to either make a trade off for speed vs efficiency. I've been using the fast recipe that burns a lot of resources, but I was wondering if that was a bad idea. I produce the crops myself, so the only input I need to buy right now is H20 and the materials to keep my pioneers running the farms and incinerator happy. I figure the pioneer supplies cost a great deal more than the water I use as input so optimizing for the most carbon/day even though I don't have any excess crops to sell is best for now. I haven't done the math though, so this is just speculation. [01-Jun-22 12:01 PM] exeler#0000 I figure if I build another incinerator I can drop down to a slower, more efficient recipe so that I just end up making more carbon over time with the same h20 input. So there's leeway on balancing my farm to incinerator ratio. [01-Jun-22 12:02 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 if you plan to be max base size on vertical carbon, the recipe that you end up going with will determine your ratio of RIG, FRM and INC [01-Jun-22 12:03 PM] allocater#0000 I did a napkin table a while back and the fast recipe was indeed the most profit per day. So if you can get the resources you can continue to run it I think [01-Jun-22 12:03 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 In my experience, the middle recipe is the best, but. i always fall back on the slow recipe if there is risk of a water or agriculture shortage [01-Jun-22 12:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the fast recipe has the highest profits if you have no limit to affordable agriculture supply [01-Jun-22 12:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this is a big โ€œifโ€ [01-Jun-22 12:06 PM] exeler#0000 That makes sense since the incinerator seems to be the slowest link in the chain. Right now I found a sweet spot where my two FRM can produce just enough crops to feed the fast recipe for carbon so that I can queue orders of 40 C that complete every 3 days. [01-Jun-22 12:07 PM] demannu#0000 Also, make use of that calc spreadsheet I sent you @exeler it breaks down the base building + recipe ROI [01-Jun-22 12:08 PM] exeler#0000 I'll have to take a look at it more. I've only glossed over it so far [01-Jun-22 12:08 PM] allocater#0000 right, at some point crop value can get so high that the highest profitability jumps to another recipe [01-Jun-22 12:10 PM] exeler#0000 That makes sense. If someone trying to by truckloads of crops at insane prices it probably makes sense to sell the crops directly instead of burning them to try and sell them in the form of cheap ash. [01-Jun-22 12:10 PM] allocater#0000 haha yeah [01-Jun-22 01:09 PM] thummper#0000 ad on harmonia thanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [01-Jun-22 02:21 PM] churavis#0000 I now have 10 smelters up and running on Deimos! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] emperyan11#0000 Any suggestions on where to place a Software Engineering facility? (I know, I know but the heart wants what the heart wants and ROI is 45 days with the MM on EDC) [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] churavis#0000 Phobos will give you the best COGC multiplier {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ ๐Ÿ [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] namthorn#0000 Phobos [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Phobos is the only viable option [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 bah, too slow [01-Jun-22 02:33 PM] namthorn#0000 xD [01-Jun-22 02:34 PM] namthorn#0000 it has the pops and the cogc to support it [01-Jun-22 02:34 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿข [01-Jun-22 02:34 PM] churavis#0000 Phobos has fewer and fewer ghost plots every day, I wouldn't be surprised if one opens up soon as it's currently at +3 [01-Jun-22 02:34 PM] namthorn#0000 hope so, I do want to settle there eventually myself [01-Jun-22 02:35 PM] namthorn#0000 if none open i'll just do electronics on nike instead i guess [01-Jun-22 02:35 PM] churavis#0000 Get your mats and permit ready now then [01-Jun-22 02:35 PM] namthorn#0000 nah no rush [01-Jun-22 02:36 PM] namthorn#0000 gotta settle the LES planet, max out chem base area and settle NIke finally first [01-Jun-22 02:53 PM] emperyan11#0000 Phobos seems to be the consensus. Now I'll just have to get my core module supplies (easy after the SE, lol) [01-Jun-22 02:54 PM] churavis#0000 You may have to wait for a plot to open up is the only caveat. It's close but there's no telling when exactly [01-Jun-22 03:01 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I have 2 SE on Phobos and they run at 117% efficiency and that's without GIN - 1 electronics expert. Been solid money making so far but getting the engineers can be tough, I had to wait multiple days before any showed up for both of my SE's (built at different times) [01-Jun-22 03:14 PM] emperyan11#0000 Huh. Works for me. [01-Jun-22 03:15 PM] emperyan11#0000 Just need to source my RDE (soooo spendy) and I'm in business! [01-Jun-22 03:22 PM] namthorn#0000 you can always just pay the governor for the engineer migration program too if you want engineers and weekly migration isn't cutting it. That's 50 instantly for a chunk of cash [01-Jun-22 03:42 PM] allocater#0000 yaro left RDE behind on phobos, you can use them [01-Jun-22 04:09 PM] emperyan11#0000 @allocater Game for that... how would I access them? [02-Jun-22 02:31 AM] allocater#0000 create ad on phobos. 1AIC [02-Jun-22 08:10 AM] emperyan11#0000 Ad up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [02-Jun-22 08:10 AM] emperyan11#0000 Many, many thanks. [02-Jun-22 11:43 AM] emperyan11#0000 Ugh, I'm dumb. 14 is the number not 12... any chance there's 2 more kicking around? [02-Jun-22 11:43 AM] emperyan11#0000 (How I succeed at all at this game given my obvious math "skill" is beyond me...) [02-Jun-22 11:44 AM] emperyan11#0000 I'll post an ad and find out... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Jun-22 12:04 PM] emperyan11#0000 Lol, thanks again [03-Jun-22 01:40 PM] thummper#0000 do 3 base permits give 1000 area? [03-Jun-22 01:41 PM] rune_242#0000 yup [03-Jun-22 01:43 PM] allocater#0000 most efficient way is to only build 500 bases, especially if we build a shipping fleet to connect them all {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [03-Jun-22 02:26 PM] rune_242#0000 OMG [03-Jun-22 02:26 PM] rune_242#0000 my account hit 300 days today {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (4) [03-Jun-22 02:27 PM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/982364856160252025/unknown.png?ex=68151c91&is=6813cb11&hm=8d117fda88309bd39933dd21e895992a40d072756420622714de583a9d46c6ac& [03-Jun-22 02:28 PM] thummper#0000 ye kinda regretting not vertically integrating water on harmonia [03-Jun-22 02:28 PM] thummper#0000 although might be better once I have extra cash to ship more at a time [03-Jun-22 03:13 PM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/982376544347500604/unknown.png?ex=68152773&is=6813d5f3&hm=1ad76e0b81296c87c40b8ba9ede42423cce517fd5c6783031c1bfbb1a69bf06d& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (5) [04-Jun-22 09:38 AM] demannu#0000 :fry:@allocater Why'd you take that deal? It's super low priced [04-Jun-22 09:39 AM] demannu#0000 Someone who had been regularly shipping with me offered me a dumb low price so I took him up on it [04-Jun-22 09:39 AM] allocater#0000 haha oops, ok put it up again, I won't take it, I promise! [04-Jun-22 09:39 AM] demannu#0000 I just felt bad cause it's below the quoted prices in here, don't want you to lose any money. [04-Jun-22 09:40 AM] allocater#0000 just pay me back in future AL discounts ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Jun-22 09:41 AM] demannu#0000 I got 10 AL ready rn, whatcha want it for? [04-Jun-22 09:42 AM] allocater#0000 make it 300 like the good old days ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ž [04-Jun-22 09:44 AM] demannu#0000 300 total right? [04-Jun-22 09:44 AM] allocater#0000 per AL [04-Jun-22 09:44 AM] demannu#0000 o [04-Jun-22 09:44 AM] demannu#0000 I was just gonna full send 10 for 300 total lmao {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [04-Jun-22 09:44 AM] allocater#0000 ad is up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ ๐Ÿค [05-Jun-22 12:04 PM] yang_mills#0000 @insensless72 @bitcoin_ape @namthorn Stored SF on the CX. Unlimited storage capacity. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/983053687658274916/Fuel.png?ex=6814fb17&is=6813a997&hm=83f4240119a9f6e278618744a013579cf7a23dc9e0a352b2186334e67b3cb495& {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  (4) ๐Ÿ“ˆ [05-Jun-22 07:24 PM] exeler#0000 Is that allowed? Putting a price over the infinite market maker smells a tad like an exploit. Unless that market maker adjusts it's price periodically? [05-Jun-22 07:59 PM] churavis#0000 Does anyone make NS? [05-Jun-22 08:04 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have been making it lately, and namthorn possibly [05-Jun-22 08:05 PM] churavis#0000 Where do you sell it? [05-Jun-22 08:13 PM] churavis#0000 Would I be able to buy some now and on a regular basis in the future and at what price? [06-Jun-22 05:30 AM] namthorn#0000 i have 48 currently with another 40 in production and some recurring orders queued. Been mainly pumping out FLX with my spare CHP time. Now that I have a stock of that I'll be making some NS. How much do you go through daily @churavis ? [06-Jun-22 05:48 AM] thummper#0000 I'll buy any excess NS also! [06-Jun-22 06:00 AM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, it is allowed. [06-Jun-22 06:35 AM] namthorn#0000 it's a convenient storage loophole. But you need external storage available to actually access the goods and it's not like you can exploit the market by listing higher than the MM. [06-Jun-22 06:37 AM] yang_mills#0000 Today is a great day. I reached my first 1 million AIC cash. ๐Ÿ’ถ I do not count here the upkeep fund that I manage. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ (7) [06-Jun-22 06:54 AM] namthorn#0000 get that invested! [06-Jun-22 06:58 AM] allocater#0000 TIL: CORPFIN [06-Jun-22 07:23 AM] insensless72#0000 I think CORPFIN has a ton of potential in future versions of the game. Investment funds like Metal Trust could be done there. In its current state though its pretty useless. Really all it does is tell you when the next dividend payout will be and allow you to calculate your own share [06-Jun-22 10:25 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea, adding more complicated finances to corporations, including cash accounts and corporation-level contracts would be good, and I think would make governors more effective. [06-Jun-22 10:25 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 nice work yang [06-Jun-22 10:26 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 what is your biggest money maker not including that phobos fund? [06-Jun-22 11:43 AM] yang_mills#0000 1) Bfabs. 2) Hull plates 3) LST 4) MCG 5) FLX 6) SIO 7) Occasional sells of metals. Actually both Bfabs and hull plates are very vertically integrated. These are the ends of long chains. Actually a large portion of this income comes from smelters, extractors and collectors, an other one from my farms and food processors. Also one should count in the contribution of the BMPs. [06-Jun-22 12:02 PM] yang_mills#0000 What I try to say is that a big portion of the added value is generated by the AL on Deimos. Just I don't usually trade the AL and it goes instead into the Bfabs and the hull plates. [06-Jun-22 12:05 PM] yang_mills#0000 The extraction of LST also generates a lot of added value, which goes into Bfabs, MCG, FLX or gets directly traded on the CX. Finally, the last step of manufacturing the Bfabs in PP2 and PP1 creates a lot of added value because the Bfabs are so high at the moment. [06-Jun-22 12:13 PM] namthorn#0000 bfabs do be like that. deimos + nike, most iconic duo in the universe {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [06-Jun-22 12:30 PM] rune_242#0000 how many PP2's do you have? [06-Jun-22 12:53 PM] yang_mills#0000 6 PP2 and 2 PP1 (for BDE). [06-Jun-22 12:56 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes. That is what I would recommend to newer players. Set up your bases on Deimos and Nike. Spam AL on Deimos, ship it to Nike and spam Bfabs there. [06-Jun-22 01:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 It seems that the Bfabs will start going down quickly though, because the wave of new players is behind us. [06-Jun-22 01:05 PM] yang_mills#0000 Bfabs have been historically high for more than one month. [06-Jun-22 01:08 PM] yang_mills#0000 AL is still historically high and rising! [06-Jun-22 01:24 PM] namthorn#0000 cause we keep buying the entire supply on deimos before it reaches market xD {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [06-Jun-22 04:12 PM] thummper#0000 @allocater could you trade me 45k ica again please? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [06-Jun-22 04:56 PM] rune_242#0000 I thinks I need another ship [06-Jun-22 04:56 PM] rune_242#0000 how much would another standard ship cost? [06-Jun-22 04:57 PM] rune_242#0000 @bitcoin_ape [06-Jun-22 06:06 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @rune_242 Roughly 2.5m [07-Jun-22 06:50 AM] insensless72#0000 Does anyone need ALE? I have 100+ on Deimos, Nike, and Harmonia. 400ea [07-Jun-22 06:52 AM] namthorn#0000 yep, ad up on Nike! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Jun-22 02:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 Just opened a new base on QJ-650c. 3 POL producing PG. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ท ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [07-Jun-22 03:00 PM] allocater#0000 so this is a better PG location than Griffenstone? ๐Ÿค” [07-Jun-22 03:01 PM] yang_mills#0000 Better logistics. Also offers CLI. [07-Jun-22 03:02 PM] rune_242#0000 and MGS [07-Jun-22 03:02 PM] allocater#0000 but COGC [07-Jun-22 03:02 PM] allocater#0000 how have they build ADM before COGC? ๐Ÿคฃ [07-Jun-22 03:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 H is one jump away on QJ-382g. Griffonstone is just in the opposite direction from my expansion. [07-Jun-22 03:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 lol [07-Jun-22 03:03 PM] rune_242#0000 if a GOGC will be build I'l go to there instead of griffenstone [07-Jun-22 03:05 PM] churavis#0000 It is technically closer than Griffonstone to the CX [07-Jun-22 03:09 PM] allocater#0000 NIRCo lost patience with PG ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/983825111369015427/unknown.png?ex=68152689&is=6813d509&hm=d1cb92d177454c1682891eb904879f4b6bdccfa97df3d6c6e43f20223f751f29& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [07-Jun-22 03:11 PM] churavis#0000 I'm sure he won't be the only one [07-Jun-22 03:25 PM] namthorn#0000 if you're going full PG it's probably better on qj-650c. just for the proximity to ANT. Griffonstone is more attractive if you want to use the local HAL. Lots of very useful chemicals take CL. [07-Jun-22 03:25 PM] namthorn#0000 and on the cogc thing - i think the primary use for that place was AUO mining in the past. More of that doesn't actually help it's so damn heavy [07-Jun-22 03:27 PM] yang_mills#0000 I really hope for a chemistry COGC. But will have to convince the other inhabitants. [07-Jun-22 03:28 PM] namthorn#0000 they'll probably be cool with it. Heck i think the ADM is only there because Piboy wanted to keep the governor colour on the UFO discord xD [07-Jun-22 03:28 PM] namthorn#0000 more chemistry cogcs is always a plus, especially one that only requires SEA to build there. [07-Jun-22 03:29 PM] namthorn#0000 That's the other advantage of griffonstone, easy builds. SEA is only a small extra cost however. [07-Jun-22 03:29 PM] yang_mills#0000 I have plenty of SEA. [07-Jun-22 03:29 PM] namthorn#0000 ye, not a problem now. but was probably a consideration in early universe. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [07-Jun-22 04:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 greed, pure greed [07-Jun-22 04:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Ah, I guess this counts. haha [07-Jun-22 04:50 PM] churavis#0000 Who doesn't want to swim in a sea of gold coins? [07-Jun-22 04:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/983850760561365002/unknown.png?ex=681495ac&is=6813442c&hm=fc03da68fc39e6ac823630b84700559d73c2f2d6bfa3f80d489a2453c625aed5& [08-Jun-22 08:31 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi @everyone, I have 1000 Hydrogen and 1000 Ammonia currently on its way to Phobos. I will need 200 of each for my REFs/BMPs but the rest is up for grabs. I can fly up to 300 m3 out to Nike with me if some of you would like to pick up there instead. If you would like some feel free to post ads (give me a couple days to fill since I'm not sure exactly when the Tayra will land). Hopefully I can bring down prices as I get more experts and figure things out! *~~800 H @ 35/u~~* 800 AMM @ 60/u [08-Jun-22 08:34 AM] churavis#0000 I will take 100 H {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Jun-22 08:48 AM] rune_242#0000 I would like 200 H on nike [08-Jun-22 09:03 AM] emperyan11#0000 200 H on Phobos please and thanks. [08-Jun-22 09:04 AM] emperyan11#0000 Ad posted. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Jun-22 10:46 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, 300 H still available. I should also say I have a ship heading to @Deimos with 200 m3 space available if anyone needs any on Deimos? [08-Jun-22 10:46 AM] allocater#0000 I can move the remaining H to heph [08-Jun-22 11:19 AM] neoreeves#0000 If 300 H is still available I'll take them [08-Jun-22 11:32 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, you can post an ad and I'll fill once it arrives (give it a couple days to fill). You're looking on Phobos right? I only have space for 200 on the ship to Deimos [08-Jun-22 02:31 PM] allocater#0000 all lined up ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984177799894028330/unknown.png?ex=68151d80&is=6813cc00&hm=b8d61ca38038c397740a4914671debf4838ede8d00dbedea1e893a49e808da9a& [08-Jun-22 02:33 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984178353722495046/unknown.png?ex=68151e04&is=6813cc84&hm=9f865bbb369a7081b40e89853bd9cd6e4a0ac6409e7ac9208797ba2bfa87600a& [08-Jun-22 03:16 PM] churavis#0000 Pirate report on CO IONS [08-Jun-22 03:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 can you show the breached contract? [08-Jun-22 03:17 PM] churavis#0000 I'm just forwarding from the UFO server, they got proof over there [08-Jun-22 03:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 oh nice. thanks. [08-Jun-22 03:18 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @everyone time to block another pirate, CO IONS {Reactions} โ˜ ๏ธ (4) [08-Jun-22 03:31 PM] insensless72#0000 FantasticBEN isnt so fantastic I guess [08-Jun-22 03:31 PM] churavis#0000 Such a waste of a great company code too, wish I'd thought of it [08-Jun-22 03:33 PM] churavis#0000 He's not in the Antares system but that didn't stop the last guy and I remember seeing some of you burned after I saw the initial report on UFO [08-Jun-22 04:04 PM] namthorn#0000 "apex source" totally legit company name [09-Jun-22 01:20 AM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984341204273618954/unknown.png?ex=68150cef&is=6813bb6f&hm=a468ca14669eec277aa5a862c26f1bcb946fb1b9c7f416f5eea5d82ed46463da& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984341204516896798/unknown.png?ex=68150cef&is=6813bb6f&hm=aefb7182813152e5b1eeed5fb4d3da5d3b18030ef2f4444a879b3bd8c122d582& [09-Jun-22 01:21 AM] allocater#0000 still buggy as hell [09-Jun-22 01:22 AM] churavis#0000 I've just gotten in the habit of clicking the STL knob a couple times to make sure I have the quicker version {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [09-Jun-22 09:33 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Have you posted an ad? H has arrived and I can fill your ad from my current H inventory on Nike then move the H to restock. So post whenever you're ready [09-Jun-22 10:01 AM] rune_242#0000 ad posted [09-Jun-22 02:06 PM] rune_242#0000 is there a close planet with a GOGC for resource extraction? [09-Jun-22 02:07 PM] insensless72#0000 depends on what resource, ANT II b [09-Jun-22 02:08 PM] allocater#0000 metallurgy now [09-Jun-22 02:09 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 not many extraction cogc total [09-Jun-22 02:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 mostly far-away worlds that are only settled for a specific resource. Like our QJ-382 gas planet [09-Jun-22 02:10 PM] allocater#0000 etherwind is 7 jumps [09-Jun-22 02:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thats a good one. 7 jumps is a hike [09-Jun-22 02:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 its the only thing that kept me away from etherwind [09-Jun-22 02:11 PM] rune_242#0000 I would like a planet like that and fill it with incinerators [09-Jun-22 02:12 PM] allocater#0000 shipping would be hard but could work with a 2k or 3k ship [09-Jun-22 02:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 carbon is too heavy to ship i think {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [09-Jun-22 03:36 PM] churavis#0000 Hmmm.... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984556612771545118/unknown.png?ex=68152ccc&is=6813db4c&hm=5491ed335604b6c160579770a19148c74633e15c896bb779968bddc7f94eb3f2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (5) [09-Jun-22 05:54 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Big brain to a degree [09-Jun-22 06:33 PM] namthorn#0000 for an INC spam world to work you would need to ideally be in the same system as where you'd be using the C, as well as close proximity to a source of crops. Could then maybe make the C shipping work using glass ship convoys. But that's a hell of an investment for something as trivial as C. [09-Jun-22 06:36 PM] namthorn#0000 1st question to answer would be "can you actually feed an entire base of INC with enough crops running the fastest recipe + experts + cogc?" [09-Jun-22 06:36 PM] namthorn#0000 that sounds like a hell of a lot of crops to burn to me [09-Jun-22 09:16 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Are any of you making C on @Demeter? I've been considering moving my C operation there so I could expand it (right now I rely on importing the crops and I already spend a lot of timing sourcing them - I don't think Deimos is fertile enough to grow on site). It looks like the soil is fertile enough to grow crops on KI-446b? But as DLR noted transporting it is the biggest drawback [09-Jun-22 09:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 there was some talk of vertical BMP productionโ€ฆ i dont know if anyone built on it though [10-Jun-22 02:04 AM] allocater#0000 I assumed C export will be the main purpose of Kioog but so far nobody has build INC [10-Jun-22 02:58 AM] namthorn#0000 i would buy C [10-Jun-22 03:49 AM] namthorn#0000 waiting on building the BMP until i actually have some C stock here as I have nothing to produce out of it otherwise. But yes i plan on doing some PE/OVE at minimum [10-Jun-22 08:35 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Joined the server. [10-Jun-22 08:39 AM] churavis#0000 Welcome @jackinabox86 [10-Jun-22 08:40 AM] rune_242#0000 With COF I go trough 44 C a day! [10-Jun-22 08:40 AM] rune_242#0000 [10-Jun-22 08:41 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Thanks! [10-Jun-22 09:12 AM] insensless72#0000 [10-Jun-22 09:18 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Where are you setup and whats your specialty? Ill get your roles setup [10-Jun-22 09:54 AM] yang_mills#0000 [10-Jun-22 09:58 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Right now I've got one base on Phobos where I'm doing Fuel, B and L prefabs, BCO and a bit of excess CU. I've been solo since starting 3 weeks ago, so have been going for whatever the best accessible profits are. Looking at PG production to do PSLs later for a second base, but I'm open to specializing better if I can find affordable supplies to do so. I have been enjoying trying to maximize my profits per minute per square and expanding asap {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [10-Jun-22 10:01 AM] yang_mills#0000 Where do you want to put your second base? [10-Jun-22 10:13 AM] insensless72#0000 PG production on Phobos would both help corp and bring in some $$$. Dont expand into PSLs as we can supply those for you. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing That link will take you to our corporate spreadsheet. You can see what we have established and get yourself set up on there. You will also find corp prices on the prices page. Just an FYI, we do a 7 day trial period where you can hangout and enjoy the benefits of being in corp before we officially invite you in game. During this period the only thing you will not have access to are dividend payouts from our tax revenue {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?usp=sharing Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets Antares Holdings Corp,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,KI-446b,Time Zone # OF BASES >>,11,13,12,10,5,1,1,3,1,1,1,1,4 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, or production at the end of a verti... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [10-Jun-22 10:13 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Still determining that. Was considering BS-788c for CLI to produce I and then convert that into MHL at a WEL, but I'm already experiencing light shipping capacity issues, so that's something I'm thinking through [10-Jun-22 10:14 AM] jackinabox86#0000 either way, I'm only at 183 area on my first base, so a second base is a ways off [10-Jun-22 10:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 you are importing copper right? sounds heavy [10-Jun-22 10:14 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I'm certainly down to do PG as it's a the top of my plan sheet right now! [10-Jun-22 10:14 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also, no requirement to max one base before getting another. all things being equal, more experts earlier is better [10-Jun-22 10:14 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I'm making the copper actually because the supply was expensive and small. Ore is not light either [10-Jun-22 10:16 AM] jackinabox86#0000 My issue with a new base was the 90k or so I projected it requiring in capitol, plus buildings. Sounds like i might be able to source that easier here [10-Jun-22 10:16 AM] insensless72#0000 #bank-of-oog [10-Jun-22 10:18 AM] namthorn#0000 if you are looking at CLI-related stuff, try qj-650c [10-Jun-22 10:18 AM] namthorn#0000 sealant is very easy to get [10-Jun-22 10:18 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lets give it a day or two, but 100-200k is very manageable and should make for a decent base start {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [10-Jun-22 10:18 AM] namthorn#0000 and id move away from copper over time. The shipping to smelt that in a meaningful capacity on phobos must be nuts {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [10-Jun-22 10:26 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I just have one SME that produces enough for a BCO line. That has been $6.5k profit a day in BCO at the CX, plus some extra CU to sell. If I'm able to buy prefabs from you all, that means I can stop shipping in LST and FE to help with my expansion needs [10-Jun-22 10:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I don't think BCO is a permanent solution, but I have been lucky to find it since it was relatively easy to get into and has provided steady, good income [10-Jun-22 10:27 AM] namthorn#0000 there are bfab stocks around . Also cheap LST on Nike & cheap AL (pp2 bfab recipes) on Deimos. [10-Jun-22 10:28 AM] churavis#0000 How profitable has BCO been? [10-Jun-22 10:28 AM] namthorn#0000 and yea market gaps appear. it's more future-proofing. if you're already having shipping issues now imagine the problems when you have more bases [10-Jun-22 10:30 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I had to source my own copper, but even with PE relatively high, I've consistently made at least $6k a day. Was making less when I bought copper, but the whole line only takes 50 pioneers and 50 settlers {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [10-Jun-22 12:06 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [10-Jun-22 01:53 PM] dersix#0000 Joined the server. [10-Jun-22 01:53 PM] allocater#0000 [10-Jun-22 01:53 PM] insensless72#0000 [10-Jun-22 01:54 PM] dersix#0000 [10-Jun-22 01:54 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Where is your setup and what is your specialty? [10-Jun-22 01:55 PM] allocater#0000 we should pin the welcome message, I bet @bitcoin_ape is posting the copypasta soon ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Jun-22 01:55 PM] dersix#0000 well that can be very easy summarized, rfabs and EDC right now ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jun-22 01:56 PM] allocater#0000 ooh nice, our ship production is lacking some software atm [10-Jun-22 01:56 PM] insensless72#0000 This is all too true [10-Jun-22 01:56 PM] dersix#0000 well I guess for not only printing money and actually doing something usefull I might have to chage setup a bit ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jun-22 01:57 PM] allocater#0000 maybe we can make it worth your while to retool to some WAI [10-Jun-22 01:57 PM] insensless72#0000 Send me your company code when you can Dersix, that way I can get your roles set up [10-Jun-22 01:57 PM] churavis#0000 Printing money isn't something useful? [10-Jun-22 01:58 PM] dersix#0000 SINE [10-Jun-22 01:58 PM] dersix#0000 right now mainly in ANT space [10-Jun-22 01:58 PM] allocater#0000 I am printing money with ADR/CBx, but printing ships is more fun ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Jun-22 01:58 PM] dersix#0000 tomorrow with one exception on UMBRA... sick of not having PG [10-Jun-22 01:59 PM] allocater#0000 we just scaled up PG bases on phobos and Griffonstone, so PG should be plenty soon [10-Jun-22 02:01 PM] dersix#0000 right now I'm apart the complete consumables and some smaller things independent, but I'm not against a bit more collaboration [10-Jun-22 02:01 PM] insensless72#0000 are you interested in joining OOG? [10-Jun-22 02:01 PM] dersix#0000 that's why I was interested when allocator contacted me ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jun-22 02:02 PM] dersix#0000 I want to know a bit more what OOG is (apart governor on most planets I'm on ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [10-Jun-22 02:03 PM] insensless72#0000 Basically a collaborative corp. We keep some items at fixed prices, help shipping and of course we build ships [10-Jun-22 02:04 PM] insensless72#0000 we offer a 7 day trial period to all players where you can hangout and enjoy the benefits of being in corp then we will send you an official inv in game [10-Jun-22 02:06 PM] dersix#0000 that sounds fair, so you can also see if you like me ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ ๐Ÿค— [10-Jun-22 02:22 PM] jackinabox86#0000 A quick question about the corp spreadsheet pricing. I assume that's something after the trial period or is there a premium charged during this pre-membership period? One just posts on the respective planet's discord channel and someone fills it if possible? [10-Jun-22 02:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Also, someone earlier mentioned I should keep going with my plans for PG on Phobos, but then someone said that PG production has been scaled up? Should I just ask about something like that on the planet's channel as well? Don't want to invest in something we already have [10-Jun-22 02:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Nope you have access to everything internal except the dividend payouts. [10-Jun-22 02:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 PG is one of those things, like aluminumโ€ฆ It is a carbon based product that is hard to get enough of [10-Jun-22 02:24 PM] churavis#0000 I'll be making a manufacturing base on Hephaestus soon that will need additional PG and the CX will always pay a premium for it too [10-Jun-22 02:25 PM] insensless72#0000 I buy PG on/for Heph as well [10-Jun-22 02:25 PM] dersix#0000 my Hep base is the reason I'm now placing a new full PG base on umbra ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jun-22 02:26 PM] allocater#0000 if you post ads for those discount goods, you can announce it in the planet chat, or wait and hope someone will see it automatically ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jun-22 02:27 PM] jackinabox86#0000 if someone is greyed out on the sheet, that means they're inactive or something? {Reactions} โœ… [10-Jun-22 02:42 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Looking at the price sheet, it doesn't look like we have an HMS supplier. Would that be more helpful from me short-term? [10-Jun-22 02:45 PM] allocater#0000 couldn't really say, there might not be that many technician demand, but if it's profitable on the CX and you find it interesting, you can go for it. [10-Jun-22 02:46 PM] churavis#0000 I'll be making a CLF as part of my Hephaestus base and prices on the CX aren't too high right now but if you think you can make a profit then go for it [10-Jun-22 02:49 PM] jackinabox86#0000 it's just interesting rethinking my production plans as they fit into the larger plans here. I had a pretty established plan, but now I'm rethinking virtually all of it [10-Jun-22 02:49 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 HMS is a niche one. Probably best to produce it along side other products. Total volume is pretty low compared to pioneer/settler consumables [10-Jun-22 02:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Corporation wide, I would be surprised if there was demand for more than 3-4 HMS per day [10-Jun-22 02:51 PM] jackinabox86#0000 makes sense. Even one line is producing 15+ a day [10-Jun-22 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 maybe I am underestimating slightly, depends on the software I think [10-Jun-22 02:52 PM] dersix#0000 my consumption is 3.35 per day ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ [10-Jun-22 02:52 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah and other CLF products aren't super high velocity either [10-Jun-22 02:52 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 im imagining a software developer sitting in a hazmat suit in front of a computer screen. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [10-Jun-22 02:53 PM] churavis#0000 There's always a toxic colleague or two in the office [10-Jun-22 03:11 PM] churavis#0000 I now hold the record in Antares space for most expensive COT sold: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/984912606793986048/unknown.png?ex=681526d8&is=6813d558&hm=78ab1b7ba2ff9f7f0f6f346e4637afa95e831b5e4c59c53abf39b1d9da3e5a64& {Reactions} ๐Ÿค‘ ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jun-22 03:11 PM] churavis#0000 Life lesson: If no one else is selling and you don't mind waiting, you can absolutely gouge people through the nose {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (4) [10-Jun-22 03:16 PM] namthorn#0000 yep, hence selling 1k PG at 50/u xD {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jun-22 03:43 PM] yang_mills#0000 [10-Jun-22 03:57 PM] namthorn#0000 [11-Jun-22 12:16 PM] erklein#0000 Does anyone have a source/supply for TA? [11-Jun-22 01:31 PM] namthorn#0000 not here, doubt anyone really has any outside of SC producers. market is likely tiny for both TAI and TA [11-Jun-22 02:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 TA would be cool, but we have never had it in OOG [11-Jun-22 02:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 unless small amounts were purchased here and there [12-Jun-22 03:53 AM] allocater#0000 first time ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/985466961066606612/unknown.png?ex=68148820&is=681336a0&hm=5ae5a7b5b072208056d60bcd1c7e9143769902d602a07646420655e6f3916542& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ (4) [12-Jun-22 08:56 AM] churavis#0000 There's a limit to active contracts? [12-Jun-22 09:06 AM] domicius#0000 No [12-Jun-22 09:07 AM] domicius#0000 I would have thought! [12-Jun-22 09:07 AM] domicius#0000 How many do you have open? [12-Jun-22 09:16 AM] allocater#0000 maybe 20? 30? Didn't count [12-Jun-22 09:19 AM] churavis#0000 Are you sure it isn't more, I feel like I myself might have that many open with just you alone. [12-Jun-22 09:21 AM] allocater#0000 ah, I only considered active in my sidebar. Yeah overall it's much more. [12-Jun-22 09:32 AM] domicius#0000 75 [12-Jun-22 09:32 AM] domicius#0000 Per Saganaki [12-Jun-22 11:15 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 allocater is having trouble allocating within his allocated contract limit. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [12-Jun-22 01:08 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Hi @everyone. Last things I have to do is to dump my remaining items on ANT, and then leave my money for the bank. In 1-2 hours I'll dump AMM, FF and SWF to highest bidders, so If you need any of these Items for cheap, you can put up a buy at a price you think works for you. The amounts are here: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/985606567384743996/unknown.png?ex=68150a25&is=6813b8a5&hm=c764f22a433d10d9dd14c9386cc6a157513fb60af092664f1422fc868865f147& [12-Jun-22 01:09 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Especially I need somebody to take the SWF, since there are no buys currently on the market. you could get all of the remaining ones at 1AIC [12-Jun-22 01:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @allocater SWF [12-Jun-22 01:11 PM] insensless72#0000 Posted for AMM [12-Jun-22 01:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 posted FF [12-Jun-22 01:12 PM] allocater#0000 posted SWF [12-Jun-22 01:16 PM] spatial_piano#0000 Well that was faster than I expected. [12-Jun-22 07:21 PM] churavis#0000 In response to my election announcement on Harmonia-politics: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/985700376428806244/unknown.png?ex=6814b8c3&is=68136743&hm=f077e3aad59decf3880aa728295a834c3c3256cb5e9b3b22abbc4403d2c3417b& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [12-Jun-22 07:33 PM] churavis#0000 I got an endorsement from the man himself [12-Jun-22 07:42 PM] insensless72#0000 Dang. Good for us but not nearly as fun as a hostile takeover {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [12-Jun-22 09:05 PM] exeler#0000 I'm looking to build some more stuff (RIG, INC, FRM) on Harmonia, and I'm looking to buy the materials listed below (`Material: amount (total_cost)`). I saw some prices listed for these around in other channels, do the totals look right? Where should I make the ads to buy these? I've currently got a ship on Deimos and at Antares Station. ```yaml BSE: 24 (14400) BBH: 11 (8800) BTA: 1 (600) BDE: 2 (1600) MCG: 320 (4800) ``` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [12-Jun-22 09:13 PM] churavis#0000 I've got the MCG on Harmonia {Reactions} partyglasses [13-Jun-22 01:25 AM] allocater#0000 b fabs are on deimos [13-Jun-22 11:06 AM] churavis#0000 Alright, who nuked the MCG market? I know it was one of you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ” [13-Jun-22 11:31 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Wow, that is down [13-Jun-22 01:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 wasnt me tho [13-Jun-22 01:13 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 LST = MCG. could be secondary effects [13-Jun-22 01:14 PM] insensless72#0000 @allocater Has some on Deimos, I have tons on Nike [13-Jun-22 01:27 PM] domicius#0000 I've been dumping MCG just to get space on phobos [13-Jun-22 03:25 PM] churavis#0000 Do we want to make a push to name any more planets? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/986003350506061824/unknown.png?ex=68152a2d&is=6813d8ad&hm=454bb0db8a6df3b9fa6b8b235de022352c6eab89837098494bcfc5e2f61d8c48& [13-Jun-22 03:34 PM] allocater#0000 any interesting planets in that list I should know? [13-Jun-22 03:35 PM] allocater#0000 also if KI-401d makes it, we can now also make it with KI-446b [13-Jun-22 03:35 PM] allocater#0000 we have double pop [13-Jun-22 03:35 PM] thummper#0000 @allocater Could you trade me 30k ICA please? ๐Ÿ‘€ [13-Jun-22 03:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ki-401d has been colonized for much longer time period [13-Jun-22 03:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but it would be sick to name ki-446b after the corp [13-Jun-22 03:38 PM] allocater#0000 sell holy water {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ [13-Jun-22 03:38 PM] thummper#0000 on harmonia ๐Ÿ† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [13-Jun-22 03:39 PM] thummper#0000 Also, does anybody need COF on Harmonia? I want to dump any excess on the cx [13-Jun-22 03:41 PM] allocater#0000 I take 20, you can dump the rest ๐Ÿ’ฒ๐Ÿ’ฒ๐Ÿ’ฒ [13-Jun-22 03:41 PM] allocater#0000 poor bastards are desperate on the CX ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Jun-22 03:41 PM] thummper#0000 yeah I can probably pay the 200k loan back asap but other will probably need to roll over if possible? [13-Jun-22 03:42 PM] allocater#0000 sure {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฟ [13-Jun-22 07:02 PM] exeler#0000 COF is one of the luxury goods for pioneers right? If this is still available I wouldn't mind buying a few on Harmonia. I've been running without them for a little while. [13-Jun-22 09:14 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone in corp make SCN? [13-Jun-22 10:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I am timing out on the game website. Anyone else? [13-Jun-22 10:00 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 my discord and other online things seems to be working [13-Jun-22 10:01 PM] insensless72#0000 I cant load into game either. Servers must be down [13-Jun-22 10:01 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ [14-Jun-22 01:32 AM] allocater#0000 @domicius is making SCN [14-Jun-22 03:49 AM] thummper#0000 35 available @ 350 / unit [14-Jun-22 07:37 AM] domicius#0000 I'll have a batch in 4-5 days. Let me know how many you need. 800pu [14-Jun-22 07:51 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Just a few, they last pretty long - maybe 5 for now. Where do you make them? [14-Jun-22 09:31 AM] churavis#0000 Can we add Hephaestus to the columns of the Prices tab on the corp sheet? [14-Jun-22 09:32 AM] churavis#0000 I would like everyone to know that I make PE there now [14-Jun-22 10:00 AM] namthorn#0000 its there under Antares 1 C, sheet was made before the planet was named [14-Jun-22 10:00 AM] namthorn#0000 ive changed the name [14-Jun-22 10:01 AM] churavis#0000 Oh, I see. That makes more sense, thanks [14-Jun-22 12:43 PM] allocater#0000 I was doing a PE order but Yang was faster to fulfill it ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Jun-22 10:52 AM] allocater#0000 when I added 250permits I said, "it's only temporary, I will remove them later" now: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/986659574666899527/unknown.png?ex=6814ea55&is=681398d5&hm=3667bf9d02674208b257c7a6951ed6ccface5335dc711251be45d984ca837376& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [15-Jun-22 10:54 AM] namthorn#0000 sometimes 250 extra area generates more $ than 500 extra area! [15-Jun-22 11:53 AM] domicius#0000 Indeed. A lot of the basic area just goes to habitation [15-Jun-22 11:53 AM] domicius#0000 If you want to save shipping stuff around, the extra 250 works. [15-Jun-22 12:55 PM] dersix#0000 and yes, I know, I'm wasting space! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/986690385239744542/unknown.png?ex=68150707&is=6813b587&hm=11d23ce4760ab03b82e31a02912793443816ba5cdc50e5864952fd4f27392ca2& [15-Jun-22 12:55 PM] churavis#0000 Don't waste it, use that last 3 to put up a monument to your greatness [15-Jun-22 07:45 PM] churavis#0000 Not sure what to do with this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/986793540971532328/unknown.png?ex=6814be59&is=68136cd9&hm=517596b0d717078e82f1ff7dcf45580be614254fac35526c3a3b657e4ed74197& [15-Jun-22 08:08 PM] churavis#0000 Who's in charge of vetting new reqruits? [15-Jun-22 08:13 PM] insensless72#0000 Ill reach out and vet them. Just let them know you referred them to me {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Jun-22 08:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Joined the server. [15-Jun-22 08:24 PM] insensless72#0000 [15-Jun-22 08:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hi everyone! I'm a new prospective member based on Harmonia {Reactions} partyglasses (3) [15-Jun-22 08:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah incidentally, @exeler your shipping contract will arrive in 13.5 hours {Reactions} thumbsupparrot (2) partyglasses (2) [15-Jun-22 08:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 I figured since i was doing LM contacts with everyone in the corp already, I might as well join ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Jun-22 08:32 PM] insensless72#0000 Makes sense! Take the time to explore our channels. Since youre on #๐Ÿ‡harmonia. Also we have a #shipping with members who run larger corporate ships. We have plenty of experienced and inexperienced players alike so if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to just about anyone [15-Jun-22 09:50 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome @archielvahr {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [16-Jun-22 12:55 AM] allocater#0000 [16-Jun-22 04:38 AM] yang_mills#0000 [16-Jun-22 07:21 AM] rune_242#0000 [16-Jun-22 07:21 AM] rune_242#0000 [16-Jun-22 09:56 AM] dersix#0000 [16-Jun-22 07:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 game server is responding pretty sloow ๐Ÿข [16-Jun-22 07:21 PM] churavis#0000 Too many contracts is the rumor I hear [17-Jun-22 03:24 AM] allocater#0000 My loading screen always is stuck on CONTS for >10sec [17-Jun-22 07:22 AM] insensless72#0000 https://discordapp.com/channels/854795108720443393/854795108720443395/985466960886235169 ๐Ÿง [17-Jun-22 09:24 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Does anyone have a base with 2 STO? Can 2 of them be justified? I thought it wouldn't be worth the space but its only 15 area and my Nike base has a lot of heavy stuff stocked. Between LST extraction, AL stores for PP2s, large amounts of fuel, heavy fuel inputs like GAL and even AMM/H, and 24 hour MCG production my base is getting close to the limit but I don't want to thin out any of these things ๐Ÿ˜ญ [17-Jun-22 09:25 AM] domicius#0000 Get 2 WARs first {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Jun-22 09:25 AM] domicius#0000 You can get 2 on Nike, an extra 1k storage [17-Jun-22 09:26 AM] domicius#0000 Otherwise just build it while you need it, then tear it down. [17-Jun-22 09:28 AM] allocater#0000 Most of my bases have 2 STO and heph and ehterwind have 3 {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ [17-Jun-22 09:45 AM] namthorn#0000 2 STOs is pretty reasonable if you're extracting a lot of stuff. [17-Jun-22 09:56 AM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/987370148317003857/unknown.png?ex=6814dd1b&is=68138b9b&hm=270738e6071325560309d0d074b282aaf73e348126cdfb6523e62e89902ef0fa& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ด (3) ๐Ÿ‘ด (2) [17-Jun-22 09:56 AM] allocater#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ด [17-Jun-22 11:01 AM] yjhasaday#0000 (pinned) Hey all, we've had quite a few newer players join recently (and maybe some older ones that might not know about it) so I thought I would give a quick plug to FIO because its a life saver. If you go to https://fio.fnar.net/ you will find a tool that is operated by Saganaki (one of the game's devs), you can connect your PrUn account to it and it will offer you real time base data. The tool I use the most is the burn rate of my bases - it calculates exactly how many days I have left of each consumable and highlights it as a warning when low, I'll post a screen grab below. The other tool I use often is the planet search - here you can search for planets with a certain resource/COGC/atmospheric conditions/infrastructure/fertility/etc and sort them by distance to ANT (or whichever other column you wish). This is how I found QJ-382g where I now have a base. The site offers plenty of other tools as well - such as inventory, maps, building upkeep + shopping list, trade/shipment finder, and price info. I don't use any of these but, to those that use FIO, let me know if you recommend giving one of them a real try! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Jun-22 11:01 AM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/987386503409844284/unknown.png?ex=6814ec57&is=68139ad7&hm=3cde8bfa4ff9f0b438d2077596c586c79361c9c39b265d57a1da8ca0da7774e0& {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [17-Jun-22 11:03 AM] yjhasaday#0000 When you expand one of your bases you can see each consumable and you can even turn off ones that you don't use. Here's a shot: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/987386965307584522/unknown.png?ex=6814ecc5&is=68139b45&hm=0ece11bc4ab23d98a8c15bbd70636b399dfc41ef34d6598fb67ca13889c8f248& [17-Jun-22 11:04 AM] allocater#0000 (pinned) https://prun.plexucra.de/map/ is my favorite map site https://aeryen23.github.io/yapt/#/planetsearch is also a great search tool [17-Jun-22 11:06 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Cool, didn't know about the map one. I've used the planet search one before too, its a little better but I'm lazy and the FIO planet search is convenient since I'm already there [17-Jun-22 11:52 AM] insensless72#0000 Pinned a message. [17-Jun-22 11:53 AM] insensless72#0000 Pinned a message. [17-Jun-22 11:54 AM] churavis#0000 No firefox extension? worthless [17-Jun-22 11:55 AM] domicius#0000 Come to Chrome. It's got cookies. [17-Jun-22 11:55 AM] churavis#0000 Spy cookies [17-Jun-22 06:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @yjhasaday I have 2 STO on Phobos and Nike. never looked back after making them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Jun-22 06:08 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome to our new shareholders,@dersix and @jackinabox86 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) [17-Jun-22 06:10 PM] dersix#0000 for the corp sheet, is that a do it yourself entering the details ? [17-Jun-22 06:10 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes [17-Jun-22 06:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i periodically sweep it for formatting but its not a huge deal [17-Jun-22 06:34 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Thanks! Appreciate the warm welcome. Glad I could find the 1000aic under the couch cushions! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Jun-22 02:45 AM] domicius#0000 @everyone 120 SCN incoming to Phobos, if anyone wants any. Also reminder 7k FF and 9k SF available there. [18-Jun-22 02:47 AM] allocater#0000 ad up for 40 SCN {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [18-Jun-22 02:52 AM] erklein#0000 Ads up for 20 SCN, 1000 SF, and 500 FF {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [18-Jun-22 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 SF and FF are free, please repost those ads (it's leftover surplus from Marky) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Jun-22 04:52 AM] dersix#0000 another ad up for 40 SCN [18-Jun-22 08:19 AM] megasaberexe#0000 [18-Jun-22 03:06 PM] allocater#0000 did the FLT ship ordering change for anyone else? [18-Jun-22 03:24 PM] namthorn#0000 do you have ids out of order? [18-Jun-22 03:35 PM] allocater#0000 yes [18-Jun-22 03:35 PM] allocater#0000 STL moved up [18-Jun-22 03:36 PM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/987818007717879879/unknown.png?ex=68152cb5&is=6813db35&hm=c7a5050b1ab97af29ea1b1f858d94e23c17b4e444e077f666b2a9e46b20d0c53& [18-Jun-22 03:54 PM] dersix#0000 for me STL is still bottom [18-Jun-22 09:03 PM] churavis#0000 Perfection: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/987900384544690206/unknown.png?ex=6814d0ad&is=68137f2d&hm=f8ac1eb35461786ef342c9bdbee0c7570ad9189e64de21e69d0c49418789ff08& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (5) ๐Ÿคฉ [20-Jun-22 05:37 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone On the forum there are votes for the next planet to receive a name. I suggest we all vote for KI-446b. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 Name THAT Planet Round 6 Thanks for all the suggestions! I think itโ€™s time that we put it to a vote. Please vote for which planet you would like to receive a name. Afterwards we will choose the actual name! Good luck to your favourite unnamed planet ๐Ÿ™‚ poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [20-Jun-22 05:38 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 voted [20-Jun-22 05:41 PM] churavis#0000 What name do we want it to have? [20-Jun-22 05:42 PM] yang_mills#0000 I suggest Atlantis. [20-Jun-22 05:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Ima say Oog [20-Jun-22 05:42 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 planet oog [20-Jun-22 05:42 PM] churavis#0000 That's like asking our colonies to be flooded [20-Jun-22 05:43 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 atlantis is not a bad name, but i am clearly biased [20-Jun-22 05:44 PM] yang_mills#0000 The name will be chosen in a poll. The other players won't vote for anything to the glory of Ooga-Booga. So we need a "neutral" name. [20-Jun-22 05:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 What if we threaten them [20-Jun-22 05:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 in game obviously [20-Jun-22 05:44 PM] yang_mills#0000 So much H2O. [20-Jun-22 05:45 PM] churavis#0000 Threaten them with what, raised taxes? [20-Jun-22 05:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 no bfabs [20-Jun-22 05:45 PM] insensless72#0000 puts down pitchfork {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [20-Jun-22 05:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Yea its not practical, and arguably not worth all of the bfabs in the galaxy [20-Jun-22 05:47 PM] churavis#0000 We are only one vote behind QQ-001a and I know not every Ooga Booger has voted yet {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (5) [20-Jun-22 05:47 PM] churavis#0000 We can easily take the lead [20-Jun-22 05:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Also holding everyone hostage on the CX for a planet name wouldnt do our governors any favor during the elections ๐Ÿคฃ [20-Jun-22 05:48 PM] insensless72#0000 Right right, fly a false flag in neutral waters [20-Jun-22 06:35 PM] churavis#0000 Congratulations: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/988587999233179688/unknown.png?ex=6814ae12&is=68135c92&hm=6adebb85152ff7013a650928a1c9f8bf2117f9a36e480c9e037687802dfd080d& [20-Jun-22 06:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks everyone, glad to be on board officially! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) [20-Jun-22 07:26 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Just voted. Looks like we're now ahead! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/988600855450243082/unknown.png?ex=6814ba0b&is=6813688b&hm=a9e6faec258607cfa98f7bdebe74cdd47fca73c0cc6189bc47eaa3ba6f8a129f& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [21-Jun-22 02:30 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone QQ-001a is again ahead. Please, everyone, vote for KI-446b. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 Name THAT Planet Round 6 Thanks for all the suggestions! I think itโ€™s time that we put it to a vote. Please vote for which planet you would like to receive a name. Afterwards we will choose the actual name! Good luck to your favourite unnamed planet ๐Ÿ™‚ poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (6) spongebobascending (4) [21-Jun-22 09:05 AM] jackinabox86#0000 winning handily {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Jun-22 09:05 AM] churavis#0000 14 to 11 votes currently [21-Jun-22 09:06 AM] churavis#0000 That's pretty amazing since there are only 15 bases on the planet [21-Jun-22 09:27 AM] domicius#0000 Lol [21-Jun-22 05:36 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Voted {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Jun-22 06:22 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I would like to also to submit a suggestion for KI-446b name: Kahuna. It is a reference to our corp name! "Kahuna" is a Hawai'ian word that means leader in a specific field, in the 2001 Dreamcast game "Ooga Booga" it was the title used for playable characters. Link to the game's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooga_Booga {Embed} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooga_Booga Ooga Booga Ooga Booga is an online multiplayer video game for the Dreamcast, focusing on the combat of "Kahunas" using thrown shrunken heads, riding animals, staffs, or using spells. The game received positive reviews from video game critics. "Ooga Booga" is also a popular Roblox game. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qMx-xyZFfropC80fHttnv8ZsDTQ5DPBbBEypEQXqswE/https/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Ooga_Booga_cover.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) ๐Ÿ‘ [22-Jun-22 02:57 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Looks like we're gaining a reputation as a good corp around these parts ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/989257901082288178/unknown.png?ex=681523b7&is=6813d237&hm=4c0cc90ccbf349a3900fba72a1182b3996af8d832692d681bbe617e5d49ca8a8& [22-Jun-22 02:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yea, we dont have HQ on harmonia though [22-Jun-22 02:58 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There is room for a harmonia site owners corp, like griffonstone [22-Jun-22 02:59 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 this would not be OOG though, we are stuck in our ways on Nike. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—๏ธ [22-Jun-22 03:00 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, I'm happy on Nike too - I just thought it was cool to see that in Antares space we're well respected! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [22-Jun-22 04:32 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone have any AEF and INS somewhere that I could buy? [22-Jun-22 05:01 PM] churavis#0000 Can anyone get 20 OFF to Harmonia or maybe just some EPO? I have a batch of EPO coming but it won't be done in time [22-Jun-22 05:01 PM] churavis#0000 Thee SST just needs 20 more in 1d 3h [22-Jun-22 07:04 PM] erklein#0000 I'll cover that in time [22-Jun-22 07:07 PM] churavis#0000 The next consumption is in a day, would you be able to help by then? [22-Jun-22 07:17 PM] erklein#0000 I have it in the queue to be finished in 9 hours, so I'll donate when I wake in the morning {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [23-Jun-22 05:00 PM] churavis#0000 Friendly reminder, always check the LM to see if someone else is already offering what you need before you post your own ad: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/989651265543897089/LM_hmm.png?ex=681497d0&is=68134650&hm=c8e2748350e7e6a4bcbadbdf08b5db5c34365f5f5be80f9d6ed86abb7bda8124& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [24-Jun-22 01:53 AM] allocater#0000 I usually have the sell turned off, because there is never anything good [24-Jun-22 10:49 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I'm just curious - how is Kapusta's faction Neo Charter if all his planets are in Antares space? I thought your faction was whatever region your HQ planet was? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/989920317810032761/unknown.png?ex=6814e9a3&is=68139823&hm=b2003fd7af786a95552ee16923d419d926f831dc7933dd021cc7664a2b5f5538& {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [24-Jun-22 11:29 AM] insensless72#0000 I think its assigned to your starting planet. It could be he started NEO then moved out [24-Jun-22 12:24 PM] namthorn#0000 I think it's a property allocated on company creation. not sure if you even need to settle there. That said, I doubt he flew all the way from MOR to ANT starting out so insenseless is probably right on the money. [24-Jun-22 12:25 PM] namthorn#0000 our metal mines are better anyway ๐Ÿ˜› [24-Jun-22 12:26 PM] churavis#0000 Our metal is higher quality, It's stronger, shinier and tastier than anyone else's [24-Jun-22 12:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 is that what the slight metallic taste is that my pioneers keep whining about? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [24-Jun-22 12:28 PM] churavis#0000 It's not toxic waste we're dumping in their water, it's flavoring [24-Jun-22 12:28 PM] dersix#0000 it depends on your starting planet, I've started as IC but no longer have any colony there ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Jun-22 12:28 PM] namthorn#0000 well yea, what else would we do with all the excess ALO? delicious deimos crunch! [24-Jun-22 12:31 PM] namthorn#0000 my reason for thinking company creation is that you get assinged a certain amount of $ in a particular faction's currency before you've even settled. It's a guess but I;d wager as soon as you make the company, it uses whatever affiliation the planet you chose is to determine the denomination of the lion's share of currency. So it would be possible to start in NCE, fly to MOR, buy out supplies, fly to say, deimos and settle but still get the NCE affiliation despite never settling there. [24-Jun-22 12:35 PM] dersix#0000 ok, for me starting planet was linked to company creation as it's pretty rare to have someone starting and first doing a round-trip ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Jun-22 12:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 kapusta is not your typical player [24-Jun-22 12:35 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 he was from the first game, and gave yaro a loan early [24-Jun-22 12:36 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 kapusta also collaborated with OOG on the very first ships we built [24-Jun-22 01:09 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Makes sense, thanks for the answers! [26-Jun-22 01:05 AM] exeler#0000 I'm a professional software developer, and definitely not a professional spreadsheet wizard like some of y'all seem to be. These super awesome google sheets you guys go way beyond my spreadsheet-fu. So I started writing some scripts that crunch numbers for me similar to how the gsheets are used, but to help me answer some slightly different questions than I could get out of the gsheets (editing the sheets is well beyond my current ability). I wrote (the start of, it is FAR from complete) a base io calculator that lets you put in facilities, recipes, and a reference timeframe (want to calculate 1 day, 2 weeks, a month?) and it spits out the expected required inputs and the outputs over that timeframe. I haven't added the info for workforce supplies like RAT or DW yet (mostly because that's already available in game if you've built the base already). ``` $ python main.py Running Base(INC(4)-FRM(8)-RIG(1)) with [HCP(4)-MAI(2)-GRN(2) -> C(4), H2O(3) -> GRN(12), H2O(6) -> HCP(12), H2O(6) -> HCP(12), H2O(4) -> MAI(12), _ -> H2O(6)] for days=1 hours=0 minutes=0: - -7.751 HCP - -1.885 MAI - -3.875 GRN + 44.912 C - -6.281 H2O ``` Example output for my current base on Harmonia. I haven't done any rigorous testing yet, but these values feel pretty close to what I'm observing. I eventually want to make this script compute the most efficient recipes to use and best ratio of buildings to maximize a specific output while minimizing required inputs. If anyone else is interested, I can open source the code somewhere and/or turn it into an easy to use site. [26-Jun-22 03:07 AM] allocater#0000 neat! FIO is also developing something like that in Beta: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/990528828348719135/unknown.png?ex=6815261b&is=6813d49b&hm=644fed12cb1d24a4e2f53055e5b1ef4946d6cf503f1e1993f46a932520e7d1cc& [26-Jun-22 05:18 AM] domicius#0000 Which means that you can also go to the FIO Discord and talk to the guys there. FIO is kinda a collaborative effort, but also the guys on the Discord are always talking algorithms [26-Jun-22 05:19 AM] domicius#0000 I think where an algorithm can help a lot is with making and scheduling complex outputs that l require a lot of steps in processing. Hit me up and I'll tell you how I need to calculate making software [26-Jun-22 11:37 AM] domicius#0000 I'm considering going in SOI production for the Corp. How much SOI do we need every 10 days? Also @yang_mills do you sell CLI? [26-Jun-22 11:38 AM] insensless72#0000 Nike needs 50 every 10 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Jun-22 11:38 AM] dersix#0000 I buy 150 per month on Griff [26-Jun-22 11:39 AM] dersix#0000 depending on the next POPI it might double with a second PAR {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Jun-22 11:41 AM] domicius#0000 OK thanks. I'll look to expanding my base on KI-840c and get this going. [26-Jun-22 12:03 PM] yang_mills#0000 Well, I already produce SOI. Perhaps there is room for two producers. [26-Jun-22 12:09 PM] domicius#0000 Not trying to cut into your action. Just I've got the CHPs and the BRM, and it seems that there's only a small need in the Corp. Otherwise I can just keep shipping BRM [26-Jun-22 12:10 PM] yang_mills#0000 We need 300 SOI (200 on Phobos, 50 on Nike and 50 on Griff) every 10 days, that is 30 SOI per day. Where are your CHPs located? [26-Jun-22 12:10 PM] domicius#0000 KI-840c [26-Jun-22 12:12 PM] yang_mills#0000 It's a question of shipping. Is it more efficient to move BRM to QJ-650c or CLI to KI-840c, given that BRM and CLI have almost the same weight, but one does need twice as much BRM? [26-Jun-22 12:13 PM] domicius#0000 Good point! More efficient to ship the CLI I guess? [26-Jun-22 12:14 PM] domicius#0000 I'm building out the CHPs anyway to double REA for the POPI on Phobos. Hence my investigation this way. [26-Jun-22 12:16 PM] yang_mills#0000 It depends where. Yes, BRM takes twice as much space. But one will have to ship CLI QJ-650c -> KI-840c, then SOI KI-840c->Phobos. The other option is BRM KI-840c->QJ-650c and SOI QJ-650c->Phobos, and QJ-650 is on the way from KI-840c to Phobos. In the first case the shipment takes less space but travels a longer distance. [26-Jun-22 12:19 PM] domicius#0000 Actually, we'd probably use Phobos as the hub (ship to-from) which can use the big ships. [26-Jun-22 12:20 PM] domicius#0000 This is what we do right now effectively [26-Jun-22 12:20 PM] domicius#0000 The question is whether me making SOI allows you to specialise in other areas [26-Jun-22 12:21 PM] yang_mills#0000 @domicius I can sell you CLI at 130 AIC/u. Right now I have 96 in stock on QJ-650c. [26-Jun-22 12:21 PM] yang_mills#0000 I produce PG on QJ-650c. [26-Jun-22 12:26 PM] exeler#0000 This sounds like a really cool idea, and one I think that the behind-the-scenes abstractions I put together might be able to tackle relatively easily. I've only got a couple hours effort in my tool so far, so I'm not ready to try and add support for more complex pipelines yet, but I'm hoping to flesh it out more as I find time to work on. Gotta work on removing all the hard coded parameters like recipe durations and instead calculate them based on the base times and efficiencies before I start trying to make more general purpose or complex things ๐Ÿ˜… [26-Jun-22 12:33 PM] domicius#0000 It's your call I'd say. I'll be a week getting a new permit and building out CHPs and EXTs. I'll do it for the REAs anyway. [26-Jun-22 12:37 PM] yang_mills#0000 Let me know when you are ready. I will have more CLI at that time. [26-Jun-22 12:37 PM] allocater#0000 Are you sure we need more REA? My demand will steadily decline as the production line decays, so you can shift that to other things. [26-Jun-22 12:49 PM] domicius#0000 @bitcoin_ape wants 1k every 10 days for Phobos. Otherwise I wouldnt be expanding I think. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Jun-22 01:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I dont think I can afford this amount every 10 days, but thats what would fully stock the university. [26-Jun-22 01:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @domicius @yang_mills Here is my CHP situation on Phobos with 5 experts. It has been running like this for a very long time now, and this is how I have been stocking SOI and PFE for our infrastructure [26-Jun-22 01:26 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/990684603922653255/unknown.png?ex=68150e6f&is=6813bcef&hm=9bf1fcbb97b3861595e5976e6d63e630b748ab8926d0acc83f7cc7392ecca6f3& [26-Jun-22 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 as you can see, my capacity is pretty limited. if we had dedicated SOI production on somebody elses base, and the SOI ultimately made it to Phobos, I could focus more on NS and PFE [26-Jun-22 01:36 PM] domicius#0000 Cool. And no worries about the REA - as long as I make something for it. [26-Jun-22 01:36 PM] Deleted User#0000 I have 100 Fim the current ^price=between 980 - 1200 AIC so i can make a deal [27-Jun-22 06:07 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone KI-446b has been nominated to receive a name! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 We have to choose a name now and post it on the forum. I suggest Atlantis. This keeps the Greek mythology theme. {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/22 Name THAT Planet Round 6 Thanks for all the suggestions! I think itโ€™s time that we put it to a vote. Please vote for which planet you would like to receive a name. Afterwards we will choose the actual name! Good luck to your favourite unnamed planet ๐Ÿ™‚ poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [27-Jun-22 06:10 PM] churavis#0000 We already decided on a name: https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/854795108720443395/988947077600002089 [27-Jun-22 06:11 PM] yang_mills#0000 I prefer Atlantis to Kahuna. Let everyone express his opinion. [27-Jun-22 06:11 PM] churavis#0000 It got four claps and a thumbs up so that's legal [27-Jun-22 06:11 PM] thummper#0000 Any PSL? ๐Ÿ‘€ [27-Jun-22 06:12 PM] churavis#0000 On Hephaestus yes, how much do you need [27-Jun-22 06:12 PM] thummper#0000 just 12 [27-Jun-22 06:13 PM] churavis#0000 I'll have 12 on Hephaestus in about 24h [27-Jun-22 06:13 PM] thummper#0000 how much per unit? [27-Jun-22 06:14 PM] erklein#0000 Arenโ€™t the other names Greek gods while Atlantis is a place? [27-Jun-22 06:16 PM] churavis#0000 PSL is 2k/u [27-Jun-22 06:17 PM] thummper#0000 long delivery ad on heph thanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [27-Jun-22 06:29 PM] churavis#0000 Demeter was the Greek god of farming [27-Jun-22 06:30 PM] churavis#0000 Poseidon would work as well [27-Jun-22 06:43 PM] rune_242#0000 I would go for Demeter [27-Jun-22 07:04 PM] erklein#0000 I like Demeter [27-Jun-22 07:05 PM] erklein#0000 Also if we ever have a food industries planet in the region, I say we name it Dionysus [27-Jun-22 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nereus is a good greek water themed option too. Or Triton. I also like Kahuna if we go off theme. I'd be happy with any of the suggestions really though [27-Jun-22 08:46 PM] churavis#0000 I prefer Kahuna but I'll vote with the corp [27-Jun-22 09:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We are going to make a poll for this. Insensless will post it because I am discord impaired [27-Jun-22 09:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I dont even know how I got this red name [27-Jun-22 09:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 "In a few" he says... AIC only goes so far. [27-Jun-22 09:42 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone Lets put the new planet name to an internal vote. Place a vote emoji below your preferred name: [27-Jun-22 09:42 PM] insensless72#0000 Kahuna {Reactions} โœ… (6) [27-Jun-22 09:42 PM] insensless72#0000 Atlantis {Reactions} partyglasses ๐Ÿ†˜ [27-Jun-22 09:42 PM] insensless72#0000 Demeter {Reactions} โœ… (9) [28-Jun-22 08:01 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone So Demeter wins? [28-Jun-22 08:02 AM] insensless72#0000 Lets give it 12 more hours and give the official nod tonight {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Jun-22 08:02 AM] insensless72#0000 still missing 16 potential votes [28-Jun-22 08:03 AM] yang_mills#0000 I will be sleeping then. Could you write on the forum then? Just propose the name, and the devs will add it to the list. [28-Jun-22 09:13 AM] insensless72#0000 Yup! itll be posted [28-Jun-22 04:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah, I didn't realize there was a "Kiruna" already, which sounds a lot like "Kahuna", so I'm changing my vote [28-Jun-22 04:25 PM] churavis#0000 Demeter may bless our harvests and Atlantis may bless our natural disasters but Kahuna will bless our surfing vacations so choose your priorities wisely [28-Jun-22 04:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Didn't Atlantis sink into the ocean? [28-Jun-22 04:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Kind of like naming our next spaceship the Titanic {Reactions} ๐ŸŒŠ [28-Jun-22 04:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Even better name for the next ship: Evergreen {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/991455187262771312/unknown.png?ex=68149058&is=68133ed8&hm=62d88980a080139edebcbd0b03ff1bcd9ac447002b9a84c552880764192458a8& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [28-Jun-22 05:56 PM] insensless72#0000 Looks like Demeter is going to come away with the win. Ill post on the forum and let the devs know our recommendation {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (2) [29-Jun-22 03:42 AM] domicius#0000 Man. CU has really been over produced. I was having a good run there, but now everybody is making it. KI-840c has become much more popular :) [29-Jun-22 06:33 AM] yang_mills#0000 A small financial report. June 6th : earned my first million AIC. June 29th: 2 million AIC. ๐Ÿ’ธ ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) [29-Jun-22 07:38 AM] jackinabox86#0000 very nice. spreadsheet or available AIC? [29-Jun-22 07:39 AM] yang_mills#0000 available cash [29-Jun-22 08:59 AM] insensless72#0000 @everyone Server maintenance in 30mins [29-Jun-22 09:01 AM] churavis#0000 It's a lot harder to miss that these days: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/991704863908057128/unknown.png?ex=6814d020&is=68137ea0&hm=4daaa6d01f1c248e7260634a53430329e48902c7e4034b1afa086844aa6331b7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [29-Jun-22 09:01 AM] rune_242#0000 UTC is my time zone [29-Jun-22 09:01 AM] insensless72#0000 Its definitely a nice addition {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [29-Jun-22 09:13 AM] jackinabox86#0000 That's balling. gg [29-Jun-22 09:57 AM] rune_242#0000 what are you planning on doing with your money? [29-Jun-22 09:59 AM] yang_mills#0000 More money? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [29-Jun-22 12:51 PM] insensless72#0000 This is one I personally dont understand. The player is 142 days old but somehow their company was founded 17hrs ago? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/991762826316222544/unknown.png?ex=6815061b&is=6813b49b&hm=758b16bf5649ac246ba3a35e12c4cf90dd1aedc4de28aa92434ef82dee7de4d2& [29-Jun-22 12:51 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 COLIQ [29-Jun-22 12:52 PM] churavis#0000 That's got to be one depressing COLIQ or a lot of them, not sure which is worse [29-Jun-22 12:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 two bases in 17 hours, though {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [29-Jun-22 12:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 if you transfer all your assets away, and COLIQ.. then get them all back.... I guess it's a free company name change? [29-Jun-22 12:55 PM] churavis#0000 I don't know how else you would do that [29-Jun-22 12:55 PM] churavis#0000 You may want to send a DM to a developer [29-Jun-22 12:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I would kill to change my company name. I figured it would be easy to do, so I just put something. Stuck now [29-Jun-22 12:57 PM] churavis#0000 At least yours doesn't role off the tongue like a square wheel [29-Jun-22 01:47 PM] allocater#0000 also free starting capital again? {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [29-Jun-22 01:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hopefully at 142 days, adding the free starting capital wouldn't be a huge benefit [29-Jun-22 01:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 but yep. [29-Jun-22 02:23 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 If you make unusual trades before/after a COLIQ, you get banned [29-Jun-22 03:47 PM] thummper#0000 huh that is the guy in hortus that i was buying mhl from [29-Jun-22 03:53 PM] thummper#0000 although his hortus base was on nova honshu i think [30-Jun-22 06:07 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/992204814480052254/unknown.png?ex=6814a77e&is=681355fe&hm=cfa47ac5ddefc758951e8fc018a4f494925124525e1dac3db4481f4a42fdc0cf& [30-Jun-22 06:08 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/992204930314141716/unknown.png?ex=6814a799&is=68135619&hm=9fc52b0f0cca01f70c41e85f7fe9c5d374be30c8622640f44cb373ad8da7348c& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/992204930632913007/unknown.png?ex=6814a799&is=68135619&hm=30858f1d4749c30210432fafd17c330257e867491fe16362b88e07fb34437e92& [30-Jun-22 06:08 PM] churavis#0000 ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [30-Jun-22 06:21 PM] exeler#0000 :/ There really isn't much of a cost to just throwing up a whole bunch of bogus orders and flooding the LM is there? [30-Jun-22 06:21 PM] churavis#0000 LM fees [30-Jun-22 06:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 Perhaps he expects people to fill these ads just in order to clean the ad board. [01-Jul-22 01:58 AM] allocater#0000 was just thinking, I get into ALO just to clean this up ๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ˆ [01-Jul-22 09:47 AM] dersix#0000 do we have anyone that can supply a bit of TI or TIO ? [01-Jul-22 09:51 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Polls to choose a name for KI-446b have started. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/34 Please, all vote for Demeter. {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/34 Name THAT Planet Round 6 Thanks for all the suggestions! Here is the final poll for naming KI-446b and may the odds be ever in your favour ๐Ÿ™‚ poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (4) [01-Jul-22 10:10 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Up 3-0 already. I love that we did an internal vote first. Really gaming the system [01-Jul-22 10:11 AM] churavis#0000 4-0 now [01-Jul-22 10:47 AM] insensless72#0000 Considering 446b is 95% OOG I think our votes should count for more than anyone elses ๐Ÿ˜‰ [01-Jul-22 10:57 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We do well enough with fair voting I think [01-Jul-22 10:57 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 We have never lost an election! [01-Jul-22 10:59 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 There are other corps with more players than us. It seems like they dont organize as much when it comes to voting, though. [01-Jul-22 10:59 AM] churavis#0000 The only thing stopping us from 100% is a lack of willing governors [01-Jul-22 11:00 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Honestly I dont know if we can afford another starter planet in the long term. [01-Jul-22 11:01 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Deimos will be a stretch but since we are all over and around that planet, it will be manageable [01-Jul-22 11:02 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 At this point, taking over another faction space is akin to playing chicken with the devs for a game reset*. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ” (2) [01-Jul-22 08:03 PM] churavis#0000 Do we care about prestige buildings? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/992596317547278407/unknown.png?ex=6814c29b&is=6813711b&hm=34d2d02d4c1748ba09124f2b756e2409b81ebe0dc1bfc4a0c7607bf194b22ab6& [01-Jul-22 08:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Maybe when they actually do something. For now they all have "no functionality." {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/992597791606055012/unknown.png?ex=6814c3fb&is=6813727b&hm=596e295b2ce7eed994f206e40888a59209c3e0aea5b4037238165d2fdc1ed73f& [01-Jul-22 08:09 PM] insensless72#0000 It is something we could aim for in the future [01-Jul-22 08:36 PM] churavis#0000 But they give us prestige [01-Jul-22 08:36 PM] churavis#0000 We could be swimming in prestige [02-Jul-22 04:44 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 lmao "This is worthless" [02-Jul-22 04:45 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Our RFABs were much better spent on the Art Cafe, which will retain more ENG + SCI workers on our high tech planet [02-Jul-22 04:46 PM] churavis#0000 You don't want to swim laps in a pool of prestige? [02-Jul-22 04:46 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I want more scientist, more WAI [02-Jul-22 04:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 more ships! [02-Jul-22 04:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 also, i recently jacked the tax up on scientist and engineers on phobos [02-Jul-22 04:47 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 time to hire!! [02-Jul-22 04:48 PM] churavis#0000 But you could be drowning in prestige [02-Jul-22 04:48 PM] churavis#0000 The doctor would come and say "cause of death: prestige" [02-Jul-22 04:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Am I not? [02-Jul-22 04:48 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 ๐Ÿ˜Ž [02-Jul-22 04:49 PM] churavis#0000 Your tombstone would say RIP for "Rest In Prestige" {Reactions} ๐Ÿชฆ ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Jul-22 06:18 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone My ships are unable to calculate the flight time. Do you experience the same Issue? [02-Jul-22 06:18 PM] churavis#0000 Lots of people on UFO are having the same problem [02-Jul-22 06:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds like it's a widespread issue, saw several other people with the problem [02-Jul-22 06:18 PM] yang_mills#0000 How about you? [02-Jul-22 06:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Fortunately mine are already in flight {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jul-22 06:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 hopefully they don't crash land in two hours [02-Jul-22 06:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-02_18-19-39.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-02_18-19-39.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8R_gHCUz0ZxUfEqoASMq4yjA-34HTvlNwC39B6nG8QY/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-02_18-19-39.png [02-Jul-22 06:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jul-22 08:32 PM] insensless72#0000 Well guys had a busy day then I hop on and the ships dont work.. [02-Jul-22 08:33 PM] jackinabox86#0000 yeah, it's a pretty wild error to have [02-Jul-22 08:34 PM] insensless72#0000 ~~Im pretty sure I cant fulfill ads either~~ [03-Jul-22 02:13 AM] allocater#0000 yes, seems to be a universe wide traffic stop ๐Ÿ˜… [03-Jul-22 02:14 AM] allocater#0000 devs want to simulate complete supply chain collapse ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Jul-22 07:07 AM] domicius#0000 Something has collapsed the space-time continuum! [03-Jul-22 07:46 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Pretty wild itโ€™s still going on. Going to mess with a lot of shipping contracts [03-Jul-22 07:47 AM] churavis#0000 It's 2:47pm in Germany, do they not check things on the weekend at all? [03-Jul-22 07:53 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t know, but there are a lot of good workers starving out there now [03-Jul-22 09:19 AM] allocater#0000 it's illegal to work in Germany on Sunday [03-Jul-22 09:20 AM] churavis#0000 It's illegal to work or it's illegal to require employees to work on Sunday? [03-Jul-22 09:21 AM] allocater#0000 I think both, but no employer will sue employees for doing it, I guess ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Jul-22 09:42 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Wouldnโ€™t the devs be the owners in this case? This is not a big company [03-Jul-22 10:23 AM] dersix#0000 employers should not tolerate any violation against work law, so if an employee is violating rules, the employer can/should admonish them [03-Jul-22 10:24 AM] dersix#0000 that's at least the official part [03-Jul-22 10:24 AM] dersix#0000 for the reality... it depends on the company ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Jul-22 10:25 AM] dersix#0000 but officially working on sunday requires either the correct business or you have to find a good way to justify that (and normally well in advance) [03-Jul-22 11:40 AM] churavis#0000 The spice is flowing again @everyone. Send your ships now! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ›ซ (8) [03-Jul-22 12:14 PM] domicius#0000 Hey, did they rewind the servers? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [03-Jul-22 12:40 PM] domicius#0000 Mm, it's all good [04-Jul-22 09:06 PM] insensless72#0000 Hey guys, just a heads up. I will be out of town starting tomorrow for the next 5 days. I am taking my laptop with me and will try my best to keep up with my portion of shipping and ship building components. I also still plan on running against Bobemor for gov on Deimos starting in a little under 3 days. Feel free to @ me or message me and I will try and get back to you as soon as I can. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ›ซ ๐Ÿ›ฌ [04-Jul-22 09:08 PM] churavis#0000 Do you have your stump speech ready? [04-Jul-22 09:09 PM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/993700044635123732/unknown.png?ex=6814d208&is=68138088&hm=5e77ffdb057dc4ee0100250bb5c04f15f2be47318ece5e14010d5d87a1f31feb& [04-Jul-22 09:09 PM] insensless72#0000 Jk but yes I do [04-Jul-22 09:12 PM] churavis#0000 You got graphs to go with it. The masses always love graphs. [04-Jul-22 09:33 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Well then I better build out my Deimos base to gather more influence and vote my part! [04-Jul-22 09:34 PM] churavis#0000 Sadly, Governor elections only give one vote per base because only land owners can vote [04-Jul-22 09:36 PM] insensless72#0000 PRO land owners at that [04-Jul-22 09:42 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Well I am a pro land owner [04-Jul-22 09:43 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I just am not using all of my land [04-Jul-22 09:43 PM] churavis#0000 Your vote is the same as you're still part of the landed aristocracy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [04-Jul-22 09:44 PM] insensless72#0000 CoGC programs is where influence comes into play [06-Jul-22 07:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @rune_242 lets discuss ship upgrade here instead of the strategy chat [06-Jul-22 07:41 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 the cost of the ship upgrade depends on what item you upgrade. I dont think there is any tax or cash needed. You just need to bring your ship to a shipyard along with the ship components that you want to use [07-Jul-22 05:32 AM] domicius#0000 It makes it easier to set up shop at least. And since people will be looking to upgrade all sorts of stuff, it should drive demand. Probably for bigger holds and engines [07-Jul-22 11:49 AM] rune_242#0000 how much will the parts cost? [07-Jul-22 12:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 This depends on which part ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Jul-22 12:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 what are you thinking of? what kind of upgrades do you want most? [07-Jul-22 12:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 engines are the most expensive [07-Jul-22 12:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 both FTL and slow fuel engines [07-Jul-22 01:59 PM] jackinabox86#0000 just give me bigger FTL tanks on my starter ships and I'll be happy for a while [07-Jul-22 02:43 PM] rune_242#0000 just from a standard ship to a 3000 ton ship [07-Jul-22 04:37 PM] namthorn#0000 @allocater calculated it out the other day WCB + LFE + 25 SSC + 16 BHP I think it was [07-Jul-22 04:37 PM] namthorn#0000 gives you the 3000t/1000m^3 hold [07-Jul-22 04:40 PM] churavis#0000 How much is that for external and how much with corp prices? [07-Jul-22 04:49 PM] namthorn#0000 no idea on either lol. That's just the parts required to upgrade a standard ship to the 3k ton hauler with no extras. [07-Jul-22 04:50 PM] namthorn#0000 dont think we sell parts in corp atm (apart from hull plates) as there's no reason to, but with the move to upgradable ships i have no doubt on that being possible. [07-Jul-22 04:50 PM] namthorn#0000 i for one want one or two of those kits [07-Jul-22 06:33 PM] emperyan11#0000 Wait, what? You can upgrade ships? [07-Jul-22 06:34 PM] churavis#0000 https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2022/07/04/base-building-boost-342/ {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2022/07/04/base-building-boost-342/ Base Building Boost - Development Log #342 | Prosperous Universe Michi shares an idea to help encourage new players to build bases, and Fabian talks ship upgrades. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FqiPXSpzsnspEAoq6Z0UtC4ACz6GcM6D16pq4gw3bu0/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/asteroid-day-2021.jpg [07-Jul-22 06:35 PM] emperyan11#0000 Noice! [08-Jul-22 12:57 AM] allocater#0000 LFE we would have to price at 87k + 3 CTF to compete with MM. On CTF and WCB SSC BHP, the metal specialists would be most qualified to come up with a price [08-Jul-22 08:06 AM] insensless72#0000 WCB input cost is 150k by itself id have to bump it higher to cover consumables [08-Jul-22 08:54 AM] dersix#0000 is anyone interested in setting up a bit of a bigger FIM production? I might have an interesting business plan (including me as a pretty big consumer ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [08-Jul-22 11:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can certainly do more FIM on Harmonia, RATs have been moving slowly lately on the LMs. How much FIM/week are you looking for? [08-Jul-22 11:57 AM] dersix#0000 up to 500 per week ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Jul-22 11:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 hah okay, i could probably supply _several_ percent of that [08-Jul-22 12:00 PM] dersix#0000 well I take as much as you want to sell [08-Jul-22 12:01 PM] dersix#0000 in case you're interested I would be also willing to financially support an expansion for more FIM ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Jul-22 12:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Both my planets are FRM based so I'm probably good for now on that. If @erklein can continue to supply the DDT, I can probably make ~100 FIM / week without impacting anything else I have going on [08-Jul-22 12:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I don't know what our attitude is about recruiting, but someone is looking for a corp in ANT space in the UFO discord lounge chat [08-Jul-22 12:48 PM] churavis#0000 I've been talking to DLR about them already [08-Jul-22 02:24 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone KI-446b will receive the name Demeter. Confirmed by the devs. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/34 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-6/4669/34 Name THAT Planet Round 6 Thanks for all the suggestions! Here is the final poll for naming KI-446b and may the odds be ever in your favour ๐Ÿ™‚ poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (11) ๐ŸŒพ (7) [08-Jul-22 02:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I am not actively recruiting, but I will entertain applicants if they fit our general profile [08-Jul-22 02:31 PM] allocater#0000 just in time for the celebrations {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/995049439402143845/unknown.png?ex=68151d81&is=6813cc01&hm=0d65c40686fef37d79fabd26402f12580d32ef5898a1d5eb42be37f3d3c76f0f& {Reactions} ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŒพ (3) [08-Jul-22 02:35 PM] churavis#0000 What is our general profile? [08-Jul-22 03:07 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 antares locals, collaborative spirit, designs on galactic conquestโ€ฆ [08-Jul-22 03:17 PM] exeler#0000 What about intergalactic conquest? [08-Jul-22 03:18 PM] churavis#0000 You would need to invent intergalactic travel first [08-Jul-22 03:21 PM] exeler#0000 Nah, we just divide the other galaxy into shares and sell/fight over them. Who actually cares about getting there if you can just claim you own it? [08-Jul-22 04:21 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 brb, selling NFTs guaranteeing ownership over distant galaxies [08-Jul-22 04:22 PM] churavis#0000 I'm sure the natives will totally honor those as long as they're part of the blockchain [08-Jul-22 04:22 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 buncha no coiners, what are they gonna do? {Reactions} ๐Ÿช™ (2) [09-Jul-22 09:44 AM] churavis#0000 Why don't we have a blurb in #recruitment? [09-Jul-22 10:36 AM] erklein#0000 @everyone with Technicians. So I've got my CLF up and producing HMS on Hephaestus. I have 30 available there and am currently transporting some to my base on Deimos, with 40 available there in about half a day. 750/u both places. On that note as well, I'm not seeing any GC on the market right now, so if anyone with a WEL wants to make those, I will buy them. Also looking to source CUO or CU but that's a lower priority for the moment {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [09-Jul-22 10:45 AM] allocater#0000 I will queue it, and 10 I have right now on heph [09-Jul-22 05:23 PM] rune_242#0000 260 GC in stock [09-Jul-22 05:23 PM] rune_242#0000 180/u [11-Jul-22 09:12 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Damn. They already got ship upgrades ready to go for the next release. Hopefully that'll be in real soon! [11-Jul-22 09:13 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Molp says they're aiming for August [11-Jul-22 10:32 AM] insensless72#0000 As in they're flipping the universe next month? [11-Jul-22 11:22 AM] jackinabox86#0000 No. Just implementing whatever features. I assume custom contracts and ship upgrades are the two major ones [11-Jul-22 11:22 AM] jackinabox86#0000 he used the word release and said August; I'm sure he would have been very explicit if they anticipated a universe reset [11-Jul-22 11:23 AM] jackinabox86#0000 would be sort of amusing if thye only gave 24 hours notice for something like that. Everyone has to scramble to plan, etc. [11-Jul-22 11:25 AM] insensless72#0000 I joined right after the last reset so im interested to see how they go about that myself. I do know that when they flip it, it starts out random(ish) so its hard to plan for [11-Jul-22 11:26 AM] jackinabox86#0000 sure, but presumably we'd want to pick a starting area as a group and have some sort of break down into who is going to go into what initial profession, etc. [11-Jul-22 11:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 then the short-lived fun of exploration would commence [11-Jul-22 11:32 AM] allocater#0000 They better have amazing new features in the next universe, like energy-economy and terraforming {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (4) [11-Jul-22 05:51 PM] namthorn#0000 just seen the image preview from jwst, hot damn that's some good stuff. {Reactions} โœจ (2) [11-Jul-22 05:54 PM] namthorn#0000 so beautiful. Blows the stuff from Hubble I worked with at uni out of the water. [12-Jul-22 10:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 Anywhere I can get about 20 HE? I'll be starting up MHL production and didn't realize small amounts wouldn't be on the CX [12-Jul-22 10:47 AM] allocater#0000 @exeler will bring HE to the CX soon [12-Jul-22 10:49 AM] allocater#0000 in 14h I have 20 HE on heph if you can't wait [12-Jul-22 10:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 CX will be fine, thanks @exeler ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Jul-22 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah my CX ad got filled by a random person [12-Jul-22 12:22 PM] allocater#0000 oh nice, mine too, also 443 HE on the CX now [12-Jul-22 07:09 PM] exeler#0000 I'm gonna try and get a shipment of HE started today. Server issues last night overlapped pretty perfectly with my available play time :sadcowboy: [12-Jul-22 08:39 PM] churavis#0000 Does anyone have H available to buy anywhere? [13-Jul-22 02:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 @archielvahr Welcome to QJ-650c! I have a base there. What do you plan to produce? [13-Jul-22 02:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Jul-22 02:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Iodine, MHL, perhaps export MG and AUO {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Jul-22 02:24 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @churavis try asking @yjhasaday on hydrogen supply [13-Jul-22 02:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 And maybe run for governor there too [13-Jul-22 02:25 PM] yang_mills#0000 I also produce some iodine. That's indeed a bottleneck on MHL. [13-Jul-22 02:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 @yang_mills If you can sneak me two Iodine, I can start my MHL now instead of waiting for the extractors: `LMA QJ-650c/260` {Reactions} ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Jul-22 10:24 PM] churavis#0000 We're really rolling now: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/996980582531739698/unknown.png?ex=6814e3c5&is=68139245&hm=bebff6b3bdf719c3ce8d2e7f3f2a7786162d1bdcaa5cdccef016f07ff7110211& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽก (2) [14-Jul-22 02:01 AM] thummper#0000 do we have TRU anywhere? [14-Jul-22 02:02 AM] allocater#0000 heph produces it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”จ [14-Jul-22 07:48 AM] churavis#0000 Server shutdown in 10 minutes, get your ships in the air [14-Jul-22 08:58 PM] exeler#0000 Anyone got LSE, LDE, or LTA anywhere? [14-Jul-22 09:07 PM] insensless72#0000 This is what I have on Nike {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/997323489218396230/unknown.png?ex=6814d1a1&is=68138021&hm=aaee515c5baa1b83f9b855aa9d9b09ddd989f79280ef049e5e3352a4895f2f58& [14-Jul-22 09:10 PM] exeler#0000 How much for the LSE and LTA? I need 4 of each [14-Jul-22 09:11 PM] insensless72#0000 LSE 3400 LTA 1400 [14-Jul-22 09:21 PM] exeler#0000 Ads up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Jul-22 09:37 AM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [15-Jul-22 09:48 AM] Deleted User#0000 Hi, Iโ€™m new to this corp, Iโ€™ll be someone who works with both GTU and OOG and for this reason I canโ€™t be in OOG aswell as GTU at the same time in-game. I came here to hopefully trade with people I can get to know since GTU has no presence here in AI1. Half my bases for will trade with GTU while I hope the other half can trade with you. [15-Jul-22 10:00 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! [15-Jul-22 10:11 AM] allocater#0000 [15-Jul-22 10:56 AM] insensless72#0000 [15-Jul-22 10:56 AM] yang_mills#0000 [15-Jul-22 10:58 AM] Deleted User#0000 :D [15-Jul-22 11:01 AM] dersix#0000 [15-Jul-22 03:21 PM] thummper#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [15-Jul-22 07:50 PM] exeler#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [16-Jul-22 06:55 AM] yang_mills#0000 @domicius I've just noticed that your company appears twice on the corp spreadsheet. [16-Jul-22 09:26 AM] churavis#0000 He's twice the business man compared to the rest of us {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ต (4) ๐ŸŽฉ (2) [16-Jul-22 10:07 AM] domicius#0000 I need to clean that up one of these days [16-Jul-22 01:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 Does anyone know how the stability rating is computed? I don't understand why with all my cash I have only a B rating. [16-Jul-22 01:24 PM] churavis#0000 I don't understand it either, it's the same for me [16-Jul-22 01:26 PM] allocater#0000 I am beginning to think it's calculated on your first month and then never changed again ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jul-22 01:26 PM] allocater#0000 #TeamB [16-Jul-22 01:26 PM] yang_mills#0000 It did change. Once I had an A rating. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [16-Jul-22 01:28 PM] yang_mills#0000 @bitcoin_ape has a C rating. Perhaps the richer you are, the lower the rating. [16-Jul-22 01:30 PM] yang_mills#0000 @insensless72 also has C. [16-Jul-22 01:30 PM] insensless72#0000 I think its because I am consistently in the red for my income, only making money when we sell ships [16-Jul-22 01:31 PM] churavis#0000 Maybe you get a C rating if you have lots of C {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [16-Jul-22 01:32 PM] exeler#0000 I wonder if it's based on how many positive vs negative periods you have. If you tend to only sell large quantities far apart rather than selling a steady stream, the game might see more red periods than green? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) ๐ŸŽฏ (2) [16-Jul-22 01:40 PM] Deleted User#0000 Iโ€™ve had B ever since my company was rated but I checked today and it was C ;( [16-Jul-22 04:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes. [16-Jul-22 04:14 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 With ship sales, my revenue is usually negative, except for limited occasions when it is over 4 million [16-Jul-22 04:15 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Governing planets is also a huge money sink [16-Jul-22 04:16 PM] namthorn#0000 mine is always green though and has dropped to B in the past despite that [16-Jul-22 04:16 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 but since my equity/liquid assets continually grows over time, it prevents me from going below C [16-Jul-22 04:16 PM] namthorn#0000 I think there's an element of balance volatility in there [16-Jul-22 04:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I have been C stability since the early game [16-Jul-22 04:17 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 never once did I make it to AAA rating [16-Jul-22 04:18 PM] namthorn#0000 Mine is now, but all i've been doing is holding $$$ rather than spending it all. {Reactions} ๐Ÿป ๐Ÿช™ [16-Jul-22 04:19 PM] namthorn#0000 soon as I have 4 mil i'll be spenidng it all and stability will plummet, dw ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jul-22 04:19 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 C stability is where the game is most fun imo [16-Jul-22 04:20 PM] namthorn#0000 yea, you're actually selling large things and managing a planet [16-Jul-22 04:20 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 you gotta spend really heavily to maintain C average ๐Ÿ˜ [16-Jul-22 04:20 PM] namthorn#0000 i'm just gouging prices of a few things xD [16-Jul-22 04:50 PM] churavis#0000 That's my main goal now too. I hold the record for the most expensive price of many items now. [16-Jul-22 04:57 PM] namthorn#0000 my favourites were actually getting sales for PG at 50/u and EPO at 150/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿคค [17-Jul-22 07:44 AM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [17-Jul-22 07:59 AM] allocater#0000 [17-Jul-22 08:03 AM] dersix#0000 [17-Jul-22 08:05 AM] churavis#0000 [17-Jul-22 08:40 AM] Deleted User#0000 hey guys.. just having breakfast and missed your waves.. thanks! what a great set up you have here {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅ“ ๐Ÿฅš ๐Ÿž (2) [17-Jul-22 09:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 Woo, welcome tux! I was thinking you'd make a great addition ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Jul-22 09:26 AM] yang_mills#0000 [17-Jul-22 09:39 AM] insensless72#0000 [17-Jul-22 09:40 AM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Whats your setup and where are you located? Also, whats your company code? Ill get yours roles and name setup [17-Jul-22 10:44 AM] Deleted User#0000 hey that is great.. I am living the FRM-life on Harmonia with my company KOWB Kowa-Bunga {Reactions} ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŒพ (4) ๐Ÿชด (3) [17-Jul-22 10:51 AM] Deleted User#0000 6xFRM 1xBMP 2xRIG [17-Jul-22 11:06 AM] insensless72#0000 Sweet! Just a heads up, we like to do a 7 day trial period where you get to feel us out as a corp and the corp gets to feel you out as a player. During that period feel free explore and access anything in our Discord to your hearts content. After that period you will receive an invite in game and receive corp dividend payments. All we ask is that if you decide the game isnt for you or if you're losing interest, leave the corporation in game. We have many players new and experienced both so if you have any questions feel free to reach out and ask. [17-Jul-22 12:08 PM] Deleted User#0000 sounds good! [17-Jul-22 01:25 PM] exeler#0000 [17-Jul-22 01:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 welcome aboard! [19-Jul-22 10:48 AM] rune_242#0000 ship upgrade will be released this weekend!! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [19-Jul-22 10:55 AM] churavis#0000 Generally our just to the test server? [19-Jul-22 11:36 AM] allocater#0000 We have no WCB and LFE stockpiles yet! ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Jul-22 01:23 PM] allocater#0000 I feel like there is a meme for comparing Nike LM with Deimos LM ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Jul-22 03:25 PM] allocater#0000 forget ship upgrades, this it the real feature! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/999049351164870656/unknown.png?ex=68152a36&is=6813d8b6&hm=e2d3a904eac4f1e9c72405e2265396e4af5c77a04f7e7ed8e94a5f33306e0b24& [19-Jul-22 03:28 PM] dersix#0000 THAT, is the definition of a QOL feature ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Jul-22 03:30 PM] allocater#0000 Database runs out of diskspace, 1 week later option to delete data appears. Coincidence?! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Jul-22 03:37 PM] churavis#0000 No, but I believe they openly admitted that was the reason in their blog [19-Jul-22 04:31 PM] jackinabox86#0000 not sure why every contract I've ever had is in my CONT log... [20-Jul-22 12:17 AM] exeler#0000 Currently at 324 HE on IY-206j with a ship waiting to haul it back. I was planning on waiting until a full 500 to make the flights count more, but if anyone needs it sooner I can start a flight sooner no problem. Is there anywhere specific that needs the HE, or should I just dump it on the CX like before? [20-Jul-22 01:46 AM] allocater#0000 from my side I can wait for full shipment [20-Jul-22 02:07 AM] domicius#0000 Which planets can I buy Corp FF/SF apart for Phobos? [20-Jul-22 06:49 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Deimos and Nike [20-Jul-22 07:25 AM] domicius#0000 Can I buy some FF on Deimos? 1k? [20-Jul-22 08:28 AM] domicius#0000 I m guessing it uses it to calculate the current cash total. [20-Jul-22 09:01 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I just filled another 1K FF order and I'm just short - current stock is 978. But you can have all of that if you want [20-Jul-22 09:52 AM] allocater#0000 buys my Truss, goes bankrupt ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/999327982114066462/unknown.png?ex=6814dc35&is=68138ab5&hm=50b9011e98c8223e61ca5cc60c63d8070ab58594a7ddcaff8e2fb3fcb926ab03& [20-Jul-22 10:01 AM] churavis#0000 Your truss is cursed {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ป (2) [20-Jul-22 10:14 AM] domicius#0000 Ad up {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [20-Jul-22 11:26 AM] emperyan11#0000 Whelp, I finally crested $1mil AIC in the bank a $2mil valuation and AAAA rating all in the same day having never hit COLIQ! What should I do to celebrate? {Reactions} ๐Ÿง [20-Jul-22 11:45 AM] insensless72#0000 Spending spree for consumables and inputs [20-Jul-22 11:45 AM] insensless72#0000 get like 2 months worth or whatever you can store [20-Jul-22 11:46 AM] churavis#0000 Or make your own {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [20-Jul-22 11:47 AM] churavis#0000 Is someone about to nuke the consumables market? [20-Jul-22 11:49 AM] allocater#0000 invest! 50% of your wealth is idle in the bank [20-Jul-22 12:01 PM] emperyan11#0000 I like both spending spree (I already make some of my consumables, freeing myself from Fuel prices helped waaay more than the cost of Bad-Idea-Base so far) and investing... [20-Jul-22 12:02 PM] emperyan11#0000 Any suggestions as to production capacity the Corp could use investment in? I mean, I could just max out my AL / BFab base on Deimos... [20-Jul-22 12:13 PM] allocater#0000 maxing bases is a good first step. Maybe Insenseless has calculated how much more ASM capacity is needed for ship building [20-Jul-22 12:13 PM] emperyan11#0000 Would be happy to help with Shipbuilding efforts and be broke again ๐Ÿ˜‰ [20-Jul-22 12:15 PM] insensless72#0000 ASMs are a good move if you have the SME capacity to back them up. We could probably use 2 more. The problem with Alloys is that they dont sell on the CX, so youd also have to go SKF and make LCB WCB etc [20-Jul-22 12:16 PM] insensless72#0000 The bottleneck currently is TIO/TI to run through them, which I will help alleviate in 34+ hrs when 401b is up and running [20-Jul-22 12:26 PM] emperyan11#0000 Good info, thanks [20-Jul-22 04:16 PM] namthorn#0000 got 316 more TIO on the way to deimos to keep TI flowing and tide us over until 401b is up {Reactions} โ›๏ธ [20-Jul-22 06:27 PM] insensless72#0000 Awesome, let me know if you need help smelting it [20-Jul-22 09:45 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I have 316 of @bitcoin_ape TIO sitting on Deimos right now lol, if he's cool with it I can provide it for free to be smelted? [20-Jul-22 09:45 PM] insensless72#0000 The TIO is basically only for ship building, id love to have it so I can start getting into alloys [20-Jul-22 11:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm not quite sure how to interpret this morning's transactions on MHL: [20-Jul-22 11:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-20_23-49-08.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-20_23-49-08.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PJaARQ_4nCMs3EK2nvc9p6uODOQnZ-1OwFFkJH-T_U0/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-20_23-49-08.png [20-Jul-22 11:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Is that a sale of ~100 MHL at 2900? But the candlestick "wick" goes up to 4k, so transactions occurred at that price too during those two trading windows? [20-Jul-22 11:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 Wikipedia says: "Wicks illustrate the highest and lowest traded prices of an asset during the time interval represented" so maybe someone was buying at 4k and re-selling at 2900 to fill the requests? [20-Jul-22 11:54 PM] churavis#0000 Somene sold 204,000 AIC worth of MHL at the highest bid price, so probably around 70 for 2900. Then someone else bough 146,600 AIC worth of MHL at the lowest ask price, so probably around 37 MHL [20-Jul-22 11:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 that's the red and the green line respectively, then? [20-Jul-22 11:55 PM] churavis#0000 Yes [20-Jul-22 11:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 okay, thanks for the explanation [20-Jul-22 11:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Pretty crazy to see two in a row like that, when it moves so slowly generally [20-Jul-22 11:57 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 yes i had forgot about this, but it is needed for ships [21-Jul-22 02:35 PM] allocater#0000 ship alignment ๐Ÿค“ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/999761488166265044/unknown.png?ex=68151e71&is=6813ccf1&hm=2dbb7dff1d3c1c1140f0b3a77e84e88f3d5b1645b27bb6b21d8d094ee413e48a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (4) ๐Ÿ—“๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) [21-Jul-22 03:22 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I was just thinking the same thing! Not quite as good as yours but the first time since having more than the standard 2 ships for me! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/999773320155246612/unknown.png?ex=68152976&is=6813d7f6&hm=5767bf712e99218b37910a95680c9b107508c04a2fe0de7a250e9953c0d5551a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [22-Jul-22 09:13 AM] Deleted User#0000 you guys play any other video games? i have been recently playing a lot of deep rock galactic [22-Jul-22 09:21 AM] Deleted User#0000 i like co op games and that is a nice distraction while waiting for the buildings to produce :) [22-Jul-22 10:10 AM] allocater#0000 I played that for a while and also Helldivers [23-Jul-22 07:52 AM] Deleted User#0000 I just picked up Pulsar: Lost Colony today on steam. Going to try some star trek type adventures. [23-Jul-22 08:19 AM] domicius#0000 I'm doing a lot of games.... Occasionally. Mainly because I play PU [23-Jul-22 08:40 AM] churavis#0000 What, you can't spend all your free time optimizing expansion plans, creating complex profit calculation spreadsheets and fiddling with the UI? [23-Jul-22 09:30 AM] domicius#0000 Real work cuts into my expansion planning severely :( But I spend most of my gaming on PU - it's my favourite thing. [23-Jul-22 09:32 AM] churavis#0000 Why would you work hard to make $ when it's so much easier to make AIC? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [23-Jul-22 09:33 AM] domicius#0000 My local supermarket does take AIC... ๐Ÿ˜ญ [23-Jul-22 09:34 AM] churavis#0000 Eating is overrated [23-Jul-22 09:40 AM] domicius#0000 Gotta have my FIM and GIN [23-Jul-22 01:28 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 @OOG Shareholder I am online for the next 1-2 hours [24-Jul-22 08:21 AM] churavis#0000 The LM has been finished on YK-649b: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1000754604117598278/unknown.png?ex=6814c6da&is=6813755a&hm=db91d75b6c0271be7bb5867806fc9e8cdaabb01acf1645b82c1c4c39769677f0& [24-Jul-22 08:22 AM] churavis#0000 I'll now be able to sell SIO for super cheap there and maybe glass products once we get enough settlers {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [24-Jul-22 02:01 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hmmm... can't seem to post a BUY ad at ANT. All the other LM's seem fine. Anybody got an idea why? [24-Jul-22 02:04 PM] allocater#0000 I just posted ALO buy [24-Jul-22 02:04 PM] allocater#0000 what good? [24-Jul-22 02:08 PM] dersix#0000 CX can only have shipping ads {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [24-Jul-22 02:09 PM] emperyan11#0000 I'm taking about the LM [24-Jul-22 02:09 PM] emperyan11#0000 CX buy / sell are through the market obvi [24-Jul-22 02:14 PM] emperyan11#0000 Think I answered my own question but I coulda swore I've seen buy/sell ads up on thre ANT LM [24-Jul-22 02:14 PM] emperyan11#0000 Oh well [24-Jul-22 02:20 PM] churavis#0000 Personally I think they should allow buy/sell ads on the cx lm, I can't think of why you wouldn't. [24-Jul-22 02:23 PM] namthorn#0000 I don't think it would be conducive to trade personally. It would effectively allow pro players to undercut the market without actually making their undercut visible to the wider playerbase [24-Jul-22 02:24 PM] namthorn#0000 on planets its fine because you usually only get certain things produced in certain planets, but to have a generic hub where you could do that, I think it would be kinnda unfair. [24-Jul-22 02:24 PM] churavis#0000 Why would pro players want to undercut the market when they could sell for more on the cx? [24-Jul-22 02:25 PM] churavis#0000 The cx would be free as well [24-Jul-22 02:25 PM] namthorn#0000 if you undercut the ask but not the bid i mean [24-Jul-22 02:25 PM] namthorn#0000 it would create this weird secondary market on the station [24-Jul-22 02:26 PM] churavis#0000 I don't see why they would want to pay fees to sell on the lm when when they could sell it faster on the cx for free [24-Jul-22 02:27 PM] churavis#0000 Outside of corp or other special circumstances, LM ads generally follow the CX [24-Jul-22 02:28 PM] namthorn#0000 it could lead to degenerate behaviour imo. i quite like it as this place where everyone can see everything that is for sale and must compete to sell there [24-Jul-22 02:29 PM] churavis#0000 LM is riskier too so if you don't have the shipping advantage then even pro players would likely prefer the cx outside of corp transfers [24-Jul-22 02:29 PM] namthorn#0000 and LM ads dont have to follow the CX, i've bought and sold both lower and higher than the CX at times. [24-Jul-22 02:30 PM] namthorn#0000 on quite a few occasions [24-Jul-22 02:32 PM] namthorn#0000 it also makes it more laborious to multi account, you cant just buy a bunch of stuff immediately, sell it to yourslef for 1 then never touch the account again. you have to spend a good 12hr round trip on it [24-Jul-22 02:32 PM] namthorn#0000 there's also the design decision to think about - they moved the CX from planets where you had this exact functionality for a reason [24-Jul-22 02:33 PM] namthorn#0000 im sure it was a good one [24-Jul-22 06:44 PM] exeler#0000 500 HE just posted to the CX {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ (2) [24-Jul-22 07:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm out on vacation for the next week, so I might be a bit slow to respond. But I have internet so I'll probably be on twice a day to manage contracts and such. {Reactions} ๐Ÿน (2) [25-Jul-22 10:57 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Any HMS and SCN available anywhere? [25-Jul-22 10:59 AM] domicius#0000 KI-840c has SCN, I bring it to Phobos every 10 days or so. I have a small stash on phobos so I can share 3-4 normally [25-Jul-22 11:04 AM] allocater#0000 HMS are 750 on heph [25-Jul-22 12:15 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Thanks, I think I can wait until the next time you bring some in - can you bring a few extra for me? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Jul-22 12:16 PM] yjhasaday#0000 ads are up for 2 x 25 - what is the stock like, can I request more? [25-Jul-22 12:20 PM] allocater#0000 not sure. @erklein provides them [25-Jul-22 01:01 PM] yang_mills#0000 I have 16 SCN on Phobos. Price negotiable. Let's say 900 AIC/u. [25-Jul-22 01:03 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Ad is up, I did 1000/u because there aren't any on the market so you're doing me a huge favour [25-Jul-22 01:03 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Thanks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿค [25-Jul-22 02:27 PM] domicius#0000 I sold muly stock at 1.2k, so that's a good price [25-Jul-22 05:18 PM] erklein#0000 I've got 30 more available right now, and I generally produce around 20/day [25-Jul-22 07:49 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Thanks, I put a third ad up for another 25! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jul-22 07:06 PM] rune_242#0000 when was the update again? [27-Jul-22 07:11 PM] churavis#0000 August 3 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Jul-22 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 Do we get any breakdown of corporate income? I'd like to see how much income my new planet is generating but it seems like I can set the local rules and have zero information about what actually is getting collected [28-Jul-22 10:36 AM] rune_242#0000 there 26 000 shares in the corp [28-Jul-22 10:36 AM] rune_242#0000 last time you would get 21.88 AIC per share [28-Jul-22 10:37 AM] rune_242#0000 that was 568 880 AIC in total [28-Jul-22 10:37 AM] allocater#0000 only thing worse than the finance overview is the corp finance overview because it does not exist ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ˜ (2) [28-Jul-22 10:37 AM] rune_242#0000 imagine now we get 23 AIC per share [28-Jul-22 10:38 AM] rune_242#0000 thats 1.12 AIC more per share with 26 000 shares thats 29 120 AIC more taxes in total [28-Jul-22 10:38 AM] churavis#0000 How many totally inactive corp members are there? [28-Jul-22 10:39 AM] rune_242#0000 so your planet would make almost 30k AIC per week [28-Jul-22 10:39 AM] insensless72#0000 I know of 3 [28-Jul-22 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Well, not so much about the amount I receive, but instead the amount my new planet collects. I'm not sure if my planet makes 1k or 100k a week [28-Jul-22 10:40 AM] churavis#0000 There really needs to be functionality for kicking members of a Corp, beyond just starting a whole new one [28-Jul-22 10:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like natural weekly variation in a planet like Harmonia exceeds the total income of QJ-650c [28-Jul-22 10:41 AM] insensless72#0000 This is why I stress so seriously that people leave if they drop off. 1/4 do so [28-Jul-22 10:41 AM] insensless72#0000 Once theyre in corp I have no means of kicking until the game does it for us [28-Jul-22 10:41 AM] insensless72#0000 that takes like 1-2 months [28-Jul-22 10:41 AM] insensless72#0000 longer if they log in once [28-Jul-22 10:42 AM] churavis#0000 Would it be better to have a voting mechanism or an admin mechanism for ejecting players? [28-Jul-22 10:43 AM] insensless72#0000 Voting would probably be best, but it depends on how you want to structure the corp as well [28-Jul-22 10:44 AM] insensless72#0000 2/3 vote would probably be sufficient to prevent coups [28-Jul-22 10:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 We could send polite reminders via discord to people who we suspect are inactive. Remind them they are welcome back if they become active again later [28-Jul-22 10:47 AM] rune_242#0000 one corp member is a friend from real live [28-Jul-22 10:47 AM] rune_242#0000 just send him a text to know if he's still active [28-Jul-22 10:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 I imagine a lot people who go inactive intend to leave the corp, and just forget about the game entirely one day [28-Jul-22 10:50 AM] insensless72#0000 I do send polite reminders to leave the corp in game. I feel like it goes back to waht you just said Archiel, they stop playing one day and then cant be bothered to log in and leave {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [28-Jul-22 10:59 AM] allocater#0000 Speaking of which, why don't we create a new corp and switch to that one? [28-Jul-22 10:59 AM] churavis#0000 Wouldn't we have to build a new hq? [28-Jul-22 11:00 AM] allocater#0000 right [28-Jul-22 11:00 AM] insensless72#0000 Also the game kicks inactive players periodically, all that really has to be done is wait [28-Jul-22 11:03 AM] churavis#0000 What if the corp automatically inherited the money of kicked off players? [28-Jul-22 11:03 AM] jackinabox86#0000 they don't really lose anything by being kicked, and a coup doesn't really benefit someone, so the bar to remove someone should be low [28-Jul-22 11:03 AM] jackinabox86#0000 see if we did Churavis's idea, we'd really be in business and a high bar would be needed! [28-Jul-22 11:04 AM] namthorn#0000 only thing they lose is the buy-in, but that can always just be deducted from the corp balance as part of it. [28-Jul-22 11:04 AM] namthorn#0000 so you get your shares bought back effectively [28-Jul-22 11:05 AM] jackinabox86#0000 isn't the buy in for us like 1k [28-Jul-22 11:05 AM] namthorn#0000 yea, it's nothing atm [28-Jul-22 11:05 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I don't disagree with you; was just curious [28-Jul-22 11:05 AM] namthorn#0000 but if they actually want to ever go via the shares system in future for corps i think something like that would work. [28-Jul-22 11:06 AM] jackinabox86#0000 it would be very cool if we could have a true ownership system, etc. corps as is are fun because of the community, but don't really add anything to the gameplay [28-Jul-22 11:07 AM] namthorn#0000 you kinda do, it's just more like a privately owned Ltd firm [28-Jul-22 11:07 AM] namthorn#0000 share price never really changes because it's whatever you say it is. [28-Jul-22 11:08 AM] namthorn#0000 agree on more gameplay things thoough [28-Jul-22 11:08 AM] namthorn#0000 i want the immortality center to be useful! [28-Jul-22 11:08 AM] rune_242#0000 yeah! [28-Jul-22 11:08 AM] rune_242#0000 more usefull corp buildings {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [28-Jul-22 11:09 AM] insensless72#0000 I have a feeling corps will be overhauled in the next universe. When that is I have no idea. The structure is already there though, were just kinda early to the games release [28-Jul-22 11:10 AM] churavis#0000 I hope you're right [28-Jul-22 11:14 AM] namthorn#0000 there was mention of changes to politics on the plan in the earlier stream today so maybe corps will be rolled into that? [28-Jul-22 11:16 AM] jackinabox86#0000 ooh, I should listen to that [28-Jul-22 11:16 AM] jackinabox86#0000 thanks for the reminder [28-Jul-22 11:16 AM] churavis#0000 Was that today? [28-Jul-22 11:22 AM] namthorn#0000 was just an interview with a streamer about the game, but there were a few tidbits [28-Jul-22 11:23 AM] churavis#0000 Link? [28-Jul-22 12:57 PM] namthorn#0000 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1545194774 ~3:24:00 timestamp {Embed} https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1545194774 DROPS | BZ Roam till Sponsored !pu Segment | !merch is up! | "Hydra... blackboa went live on Twitch. Catch up on their Albion Online VOD now. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4Us7FpnW15HtJ93qrEB4l1W_PnzIJqtFS_zpw0iM04c/https/vod-secure.twitch.tv/_404/404_processing_640x360.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Jul-22 09:28 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hello all, I am once again asking for RCO if anyone can sell to me?! I meant to have my own supply by now but shit happens and I still haven't expanded to Demeter ๐Ÿ˜…. I am willing to buy large amounts so let me know what you have! Last time I believe it was @allocater and @yang_mills who helped me out - think you guys could put some RCO in your rotation for a poor soul who doesn't know how to farm?! [29-Jul-22 09:35 AM] yang_mills#0000 I can provide you 10 RCO within 3 days. [29-Jul-22 09:45 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Sounds good, on Harmonia? [29-Jul-22 10:41 AM] allocater#0000 only 4 on harmonia atm, but I can slot more [29-Jul-22 12:58 PM] yang_mills#0000 Yes, on Harmonia. [30-Jul-22 04:44 PM] insensless72#0000 Is anyone by chance producing MED? [30-Jul-22 07:52 PM] erklein#0000 As it just so happens, I have 20 MED available on Nike. 600/u [30-Jul-22 07:54 PM] erklein#0000 I occasionally produce MED whenever I have the materials for it and when I remember [30-Jul-22 08:07 PM] insensless72#0000 ad up for MED [30-Jul-22 10:52 PM] churavis#0000 ALO is at MM, we are definitely going to see a shortage of AL: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1003147999372910592/unknown.png?ex=6814ea20&is=681398a0&hm=3b1ffaeae9b109e51c0933d51688afa39f1095a19dbb1a5ee3a3e193e44d3642& [30-Jul-22 11:16 PM] exeler#0000 Wait, why does a low ALO price mean a shortage of AL? That sounds like it's great for making AL as I can just buy a ton of ALO for real cheap [30-Jul-22 11:19 PM] churavis#0000 Because it means that lots of people are making TI instead of AL and either dumping their ALO or just not buying it as much as normally from the regular producers [30-Jul-22 11:19 PM] churavis#0000 SME capacity doesn't change very fast [30-Jul-22 11:20 PM] churavis#0000 What other reason could it be? [30-Jul-22 11:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Could be that newbies built too many EXT for their SME, either way its a good time to cash in on cheap ALO [30-Jul-22 11:24 PM] exeler#0000 Ahh, well I'm in the middle of building an entire base worth of SME on Deimos, so this sounds like good news to me ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Jul-22 11:24 PM] churavis#0000 I am doing that but the crash seems a bit too sudden for that [31-Jul-22 07:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 The addition of my governorship of QJ-650c has boosted dividends nicely by 10%. There's definitely no other explanation ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Jul-22 07:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-31_19-02-12.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-31_19-02-12.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5doaHl4U4MMAsN_cCmox2RLPW_jeb61HtoDXWNH1Z_U/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-07-31_19-02-12.png [31-Jul-22 07:13 PM] churavis#0000 No, it's not like we lost two players this past week [31-Jul-22 08:11 PM] Deleted User#0000 Received my first dividend payment.. That's a lot of cheddar! Hurrah for OBCM {Reactions} ๐Ÿง€ (3) [31-Jul-22 11:27 PM] Deleted User#0000 Yum [01-Aug-22 07:51 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Good news everyone! I finally caught up with the backlog of corp orders for H on QJ-382g and I just finished filling up the 2003 with H/AMM for my own needs so the next batch of H is up for grabs. Currently enough available to fill a standard 500 ship, if anyone wants to send out a 2000 then you will have to hold off for a couple days. If no one is interested then I will send the 2003 out again in 3 days, I'll offer the load around the corp first then bring to CX {Reactions} ๐ŸŽˆ (2) [01-Aug-22 02:59 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone There a devlog and is an interesting forum discussion on trading practices. You can give your opinion. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/the-trading-game-development-log-346/4913/1 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/the-trading-game-development-log-346/4913/1 The Trading Game - Development Log #346 This week Michi shares the teamโ€™s stance on certain trading techniques and Fabian talks about leaderboards. You can find the full issue of the development log here: link https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [01-Aug-22 05:28 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Oh nice, gonna check it out [02-Aug-22 01:39 PM] insensless72#0000 Im having PC issues again guys.. as of now it doesnt work. hopefully the RAM I have arriving today will fix the issue and I can be more present {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [02-Aug-22 01:40 PM] insensless72#0000 Trying to manage operations on my phone has turned out to be... less than effectve {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ต [02-Aug-22 01:44 PM] churavis#0000 Are there libraries or other places near you that will let you rent pc usage? [02-Aug-22 02:28 PM] domicius#0000 I do quite a bit on the phone. It's not as effective as other stuff. [02-Aug-22 02:28 PM] domicius#0000 But it's OK for managing the staultus quo [02-Aug-22 02:46 PM] jackinabox86#0000 The ship sliders are the worst and itโ€™s hard to access my notes in excel that tell me what to ship where! [02-Aug-22 02:59 PM] dersix#0000 I've some strictly ANT centered roundtrips, makes it much easier also to manage on the phone, but it's still very uggly... [02-Aug-22 04:29 PM] insensless72#0000 Were back in action ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ (3) ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿš’ (2) ๐Ÿฅณ (4) [02-Aug-22 11:29 PM] churavis#0000 It lives! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1004244671503011892/unknown.png?ex=6814f2fb&is=6813a17b&hm=2ef3fb34bca14095fae11daa29e21fe8da1513355503294469998704b2a5c438& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (6) [03-Aug-22 12:55 PM] rune_242#0000 who has a base on QJ-650c? [03-Aug-22 12:58 PM] churavis#0000 According to the Google sheet, Yang does [03-Aug-22 01:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I do too [03-Aug-22 01:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I should update my sheet. I have one on Nike now too. [03-Aug-22 01:23 PM] yang_mills#0000 I have a base there, and @archielvahr. Why? [03-Aug-22 01:24 PM] rune_242#0000 looking for CLI and MGS [03-Aug-22 01:24 PM] rune_242#0000 already made a deal with Archiel [04-Aug-22 12:45 PM] rune_242#0000 when was antares III named? [04-Aug-22 12:46 PM] churavis#0000 Just barely [04-Aug-22 12:48 PM] churavis#0000 There's a conversation about it in UFO - antares-general {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Aug-22 07:03 AM] Deleted User#0000 I am switching to a BASIC subscription today (in 4 hours) . I want to try it out, and see how it feels, for a month. If I keep playing PrUn as much as I am now, in a month, or maybe sooner if I get itchy, then I will renew my subscription. I am someone who cannot stand signing up for game subscriptions, but obviously I am playing PrUn daily, so I realize it is totally worth it. Just out of my own principles, I need to stick to my plan of trying the BASIC for a while. I recognize this will make it more inconvenient to do trades with Kowa-Bunga, so for that I apologize! ๐Ÿ˜› I have tried to set up my operations so that it is good to just sit and accumulate wealth (and pay off your 20-day contracts), without needing many more LM materials. We'll see how it goes. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [05-Aug-22 10:30 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I love the game and happy to subscribe, but they should really lower the price of PRO so that more people sign up. $8 a month is decently steep and I think it deters people from just paying $3 or something like that. They'd probably make more money at a lower amount. It would also mean we wouldn't have to do all the posting for people on BASIC! [05-Aug-22 10:46 AM] allocater#0000 yeah 8โ‚ฌ is like a real MMO subscription with graphics etc. This is just a text browser game [05-Aug-22 08:46 PM] Deleted User#0000 Also similar to a streaming service subscription like Netflix last time I checked [06-Aug-22 05:37 AM] Deleted User#0000 Tell you one thing: trying to manage 10 farm buildings with three different outputs, with only 5 queue slots, is a real challenge without reoccurring orders! ๐Ÿ˜› [06-Aug-22 07:10 AM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ‘† [06-Aug-22 10:12 AM] yjhasaday#0000 If you get your HQ to level 5 you get 2 more queue slots on everything - it helps quite a bit. Also I don't think Basic allows the use of "recurring" orders (someone correct me if I'm wrong) which I would definitely miss so keep that in mind. [06-Aug-22 10:56 AM] insensless72#0000 Thanks to @yjhasaday for pointing out that the welcome and rules channels were appearing blank. If anyone else is having issues viewing anything in here let me know! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [06-Aug-22 07:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 Anyone operate around Benten, specifically around Umbra here? [06-Aug-22 07:48 PM] dersix#0000 I've a PG/EPO/DDT/THF operation on umbra running {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [06-Aug-22 11:22 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ive been wanting a good C/H/MG source for my brand new POL base on Umbra, if you have any useful contacts/info send em over [07-Aug-22 11:42 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hi @OOG Shareholder , sadly I have to say goodbye. Real life is too demanding, and I realize I was in denial this past month about my ability to continue playing games (including prun). At the end of the day, my brain is too tired for more numbers and logic-y work. I am very proud of what we have all accomplished in this game, and I think you might see me again sometime. I might also make an appearance in discord on occasion. Honestly I feel sad typing this message, because I have put so much time in to this corporation and have become virtual friends with many of you. This is not time wasted, though. Much fun was had, ships produced, and money spent, and I would do it over again the same way. As for the business details, @churavis has the password to my account including my current inventory. @namthorn is holding most of the money with instructions to deliver it to @allocater Best of luck to you all. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (12) [07-Aug-22 11:43 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 I wont leave any decree on who is the leader, or what should be done with my inventory. I wanted to leave it in OOG control so you all could decide what to do with it. [07-Aug-22 11:45 AM] domicius#0000 @bitcoin_ape good bye, and good luck in your new position! [07-Aug-22 11:55 AM] emperyan11#0000 @bitcoin_ape Sorry to see you go. Hope all is well IRL [07-Aug-22 11:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 Good luck out there! You were one of my first contacts at OOG, and among the first people I talked to here [07-Aug-22 12:10 PM] allocater#0000 We will keep the lights on, so you can come back anytime. What you build here will last until the end of the universe! โค๏ธ โœจ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [07-Aug-22 12:13 PM] dersix#0000 @bitcoin_ape sad to hear that you are leaving but like always RL is first. I'm not that long part of OOG, but what I've seen until now is a strong, supportive and active community. [07-Aug-22 12:22 PM] exeler#0000 Good luck in your RL adventures and I hope you can find the headspace to revisit us sometime soon! I'm still kinda new here, but this group had made this game a lot more fun than I think it otherwise would have been. Thank you for all the work you put in to make that happen! [07-Aug-22 03:28 PM] yang_mills#0000 @bitcoin_ape Good luck! It was great to have you! You did so much for our corp. We will continue and try to do our best. Hope that you will be able to return to PrUn at some later point. [07-Aug-22 04:56 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ive just recently joined and started working with the people here, so I havenโ€™t had a lot of time here but also I can tell you were a significant member in this corp, so thank you for everything and good luck for whatever RL might yeet at you ๐Ÿ‘‹ [07-Aug-22 06:12 PM] insensless72#0000 See ya man โœŒ๏ธ Its been a ton of fun. I hope the real world brings you as much fulfillment as our run in PrUn brought me. [07-Aug-22 07:33 PM] Deleted User#0000 @bitcoin_ape sad news.. hope you can check back with us on discord from time to time.. [08-Aug-22 08:17 AM] churavis#0000 FYI: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1006189324506775603/unknown.png?ex=6814c5d5&is=68137455&hm=1d4941758ad3b3c90615cd330c75d1111257201ebcd9975582c2385767624b08& [08-Aug-22 10:31 AM] allocater#0000 amazing [08-Aug-22 05:53 PM] megasaberexe#0000 @bitcoin_ape Wish you the best bro [09-Aug-22 01:42 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 thanks everyone. Just reading all of this. I think I will be able to return sometime, like many others who have left before. Also I will stay around in this discord account and server, i wouldnt want to disappear completely {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅฐ (4) ๐Ÿค— (5) [09-Aug-22 01:43 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 good luck in the game! you guys are a power house with or without me, but you knew that already [10-Aug-22 02:22 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007006097888002080/unknown.png?ex=68151b83&is=6813ca03&hm=f29a0a45c04a2a1f46c30e1b901af272628d65a21a90d203b5d134d5c66a3611& [10-Aug-22 02:24 PM] churavis#0000 Not sure what to do with this [10-Aug-22 02:25 PM] allocater#0000 HOG and MHP are fully occupied with keeping Phobos supplied [10-Aug-22 02:26 PM] allocater#0000 unless @yang_mills wants to build a second EDM [10-Aug-22 02:26 PM] allocater#0000 DEC anyone can do with POL. DLR was doing it also on/for phobos [10-Aug-22 02:26 PM] churavis#0000 ZDLR can definitely make more DEC [10-Aug-22 02:29 PM] churavis#0000 I have tentative plans to make an electronics base on Phobos, this might be a good opportunity to secure a guaranteed customer [10-Aug-22 02:35 PM] dersix#0000 I would definitely buy a part of the output of another EDM {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Aug-22 02:35 PM] dersix#0000 my normal supply is going out of business -.- [10-Aug-22 02:51 PM] churavis#0000 More importantly, if everyone sees that OOG is providing all the upkeep anyways, it might help when we want to dethrone Bobemar [10-Aug-22 02:51 PM] rune_242#0000 That's a lot of money๐Ÿค” [10-Aug-22 02:54 PM] allocater#0000 OOG Super PAC {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿฅง ๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿฆ… ๐Ÿ’ฐ (3) [10-Aug-22 10:02 PM] demannu#0000 Anyone's ship flight just not calculating? [10-Aug-22 10:02 PM] demannu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007121807444279356/unknown.png?ex=6814de86&is=68138d06&hm=402195a21046fa399406937d1fc64b8df462bf827c99f123f5b624415b95f23e& [10-Aug-22 10:02 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Mine isnโ€™t. Lots of folks report the same [10-Aug-22 11:05 PM] churavis#0000 My flights are not calculating either, looks like the pilots are on strike again [10-Aug-22 11:22 PM] yuen8241#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐ŸŒŠ [10-Aug-22 11:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Yuen! [10-Aug-22 11:27 PM] churavis#0000 Tell us about yourself @yuen8241 [11-Aug-22 12:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 Hello, I'm Yuen. I'm in the construction industry at Nike. I was invited by yj14 to join OOG's discord group. I hope to join OOG to make more friends and better develop business.๐Ÿ˜ [11-Aug-22 02:37 AM] allocater#0000 [11-Aug-22 04:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have filled out the spreadsheet. I found that I can't offer products with price advantages for the time being. Your prices are too favorable.๐Ÿ˜‚ [11-Aug-22 04:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 I would like to ask, I have basically saved enough materials and assets for the development of the next planet. Where do you suggest I develop, or I continue to expand the production capacity of Nike? [11-Aug-22 04:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 If I continue to develop in Nike, can corporations provide enough aluminum, otherwise I will lack raw materials. [11-Aug-22 04:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 What do you think if I go to Hortus or Etherwind? [11-Aug-22 07:16 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [11-Aug-22 07:21 AM] Deleted User#0000 Ah good.. not the newest member any longer ๐Ÿง [11-Aug-22 07:21 AM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ welcome yuen [11-Aug-22 07:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‹ thank you [11-Aug-22 07:24 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome! Glad you could make it! Don't worry about offering low prices - especially if you are in construction. We are actually in discussions on updating our corp prices so that everyone can sell without losing money. I would suggest Deimos as your next spot to expand to - we can always use more smelters in corp and you would be able to supply yourself with your own AL. I think we should have a pretty consistent supply of C from Demeter soon too so the high CX price shouldn't be an issue. I think Hortus or Etherwind are a little far for a second base - I'm glad my bases are pretty close together, just makes logistics so much easier ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Aug-22 07:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 What I was worried about before was whether there was a stable carbon with the right price. The excessive price of carbon severely squeezed the profits of metallurgical industry. [11-Aug-22 07:30 AM] insensless72#0000 [11-Aug-22 07:34 AM] insensless72#0000 Youll find stable C here at decent prices. Send me your company code and ill get your roles and name set up! Also dont forget to check the #welcome chat. [11-Aug-22 07:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 But harmonia's soil fertility and water source are not dominant. I'm thinking that if I get food, drinking water and carbon through production and procurement in Hortus, their prices have a great advantage over those in AI area. And the Construction Prefabs in AI area can make a big profit when transported to IC area, so it becomes a high-profit route. And considering that food, drinking water and Construction Prefabs only take up less capacity, this is even more advantageous.@yjhasaday [11-Aug-22 07:39 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have completed the form, thanks for the explanation in #welcome! [11-Aug-22 07:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007267188018774046/unknown.png?ex=6814bd2b&is=68136bab&hm=391263ad7d2036ebf81bf937ec8d6bf3a7245ba7cf113c85908bbd8059246eff& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [11-Aug-22 07:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 This is my financial situation. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007267401345273937/unknown.png?ex=6814bd5e&is=68136bde&hm=2353b7f37b84da5f7d93f1a51cd27572b6c58666e9426636d6d1f1760f2eff75& [11-Aug-22 07:45 AM] yjhasaday#0000 If you want to run that route to Hortus then feel free to do so! I'm just suggesting that you try keeping it local and see if the supply chains that our corp has already built can sustain you. You will find much better prices within the corp on agricultural goods from Harmonia - I believe that RAT and DW go for around 50-55 AIC among corp members. [11-Aug-22 07:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 I will definitely set up an industrial chain in deimos, phobos and Hephaestus in the future. I just feel a little embarrassed to ask harmonia's friends to provide agricultural products at low prices. I have built a farm there before, and I feel that the profit is really meager.@yjhasaday [11-Aug-22 07:54 AM] insensless72#0000 Most of us are vertical and the low prices are meant to be taken advantage of! You're not asking theyre offering. Also I am willing to provide you with a 200k interest free liquid investment package if you would like. [11-Aug-22 07:55 AM] insensless72#0000 If interested simply post a sell ad on Nike for 1 DW @ 200k [11-Aug-22 08:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 Ok, I will make good use of this money. Considering that I have upgraded my base to 2, I can set up bases in horus and deimos at the same time. Of course, in the short term, it is more profitable to use funds for long-distance trade. Thank you for your help! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Aug-22 10:55 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Quite a few people feel hesitant to take advantage of the corp deals when they first join but you'll get used to it soon. Perhaps its because it seems too good to be true ๐Ÿ˜… but it is! The benefit is mutual - those that are offering the discounted prices also get great deals from others in the corp on inputs and other materials/products they import. Also they should still be making money when they sell to you so everyone wins! [11-Aug-22 10:59 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Also in case you might be confused: "ZDLR" or "Zombie DLR" is the name for our founder who has recently had real life commitments cause him to step away from the game. He's been nice enough to offer up his account to us because a lot of us relied on him in our supply chains. So that's what we're referring to when you see those names {Reactions} ๐Ÿคซ [11-Aug-22 11:13 AM] yang_mills#0000 [11-Aug-22 07:32 PM] yuen8241#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [11-Aug-22 07:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 Using PG to make LDE production line through PP2 will not make any money. It seems that my biggest advantage is that I can provide cheap LDE to Corporation through my three PP1.@yjhasaday [11-Aug-22 09:19 PM] churavis#0000 Are you taking into account the fact that the corp can provide cheaper AL and NL? [11-Aug-22 09:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 Production of LDE? I look at everyone's facilities. I am not dominant in PP2. {Reactions} โ” [11-Aug-22 09:30 PM] yuen8241#0000 @churavisI have calculated that if I purchase Al and NL at the internal price and then sell LDE at the internal price, my profit will indeed be higher than that of producing BDE through PP1. I made a table to calculate the profit, cost and quantity of each production line according to the price of CX before. It seems that I need to update a version according to the internal price. [11-Aug-22 09:32 PM] yuen8241#0000 I know what's going on. I made a typo. I mean to produce BDE through PP2 [11-Aug-22 09:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… [11-Aug-22 09:33 PM] churavis#0000 I make FE on Antares II b, 350/u on Deimos and 300/u on Antares II b [11-Aug-22 09:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 What is the main purpose of FE? I will buy some FE from cx at a low price at the beginning, and then produce it into BSE through PP1 and sell it. This is my first bucket of gold. However, according to the difficulty and price of mining FEO in AI area, it seems unprofitable to produce FE. [11-Aug-22 09:42 PM] churavis#0000 FE is more expensive than in other factions but you can produce it on Antares II b if you have access to HSE [11-Aug-22 09:46 PM] yuen8241#0000 I mean the significance of FE to us. I feel that the greatest significance of FE is to produce steel and then make PT. [11-Aug-22 09:46 PM] churavis#0000 I do that too [11-Aug-22 09:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have set up an account in Antares II b before, but I find it too difficult to expand production capacity because HSE is too expensive. Therefore, I think Antares II b is suitable for the metallurgical industry to fill the short board in the later period. [11-Aug-22 09:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 At the beginning, it was more profitable to sell FEO, but it was boring and a waste of capacity. [11-Aug-22 09:50 PM] churavis#0000 It is not a good first planet but it's great for supporting higher tier industries. The corp certainly seems grateful for my FE and STL. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [11-Aug-22 10:51 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ship building relies on a lot of metals and alloys [11-Aug-22 11:47 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Steel is also essential for making Rfabs at PP3. I make STL every once and a while on my smelters for use at my PP3. For your PP1 I've found the best use in Antares for it is only making BDE - which is why I have mine on constant BDE production. [12-Aug-22 01:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's a pity that some people sell more than 10,000 DW at the unit price of 40ICA in cx of Hortus. Unfortunately, I don't have enough ICA, so I can only buy a small amount.๐Ÿ˜ญ [12-Aug-22 01:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 It is even possible to buy DW at the price of 26ICA. [12-Aug-22 02:06 AM] allocater#0000 oh wow we should send a tanker to hortus and get the DW [12-Aug-22 02:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 @insensless72Maybe we can eat this batch of goods first. Except Horus, DW sells well, and 40ICA has a good price advantage. [12-Aug-22 03:27 AM] dersix#0000 I've 700k ICA sitting around, just let me know if you need currency for shopping/send a tanker ๐Ÿ™‚ [12-Aug-22 04:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you can, can you lend me 200K? I plan to buy 5000DW and ship it to AI and CI.@dersix [12-Aug-22 04:07 AM] dersix#0000 I'll send you a contract [12-Aug-22 04:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 Thank you๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [12-Aug-22 05:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 @dersix Received [12-Aug-22 07:00 AM] insensless72#0000 Does anyone know if we take a reputation hit for rejecting / terminating contracts post update? [12-Aug-22 07:01 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t believe so. No one has mentioned experiencing that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Aug-22 07:02 AM] churavis#0000 No, that's the whole point of contract termination {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [12-Aug-22 07:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 So far, I have never seen a player whose Reliability is lower than A. [12-Aug-22 07:08 AM] churavis#0000 It's good practice to stroll through the pirate reports channel in UFO and block people labeled as pirates so they don't take your LM ads [12-Aug-22 10:40 AM] yjhasaday#0000 They are out there! I've seen many lol. We also notify each other if we identify a pirate who is intentionally taking contracts and faulting on them [12-Aug-22 10:42 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I feel pirated by the price YJ pays for PG {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [12-Aug-22 12:21 PM] Deleted User#0000 Swift Mining Group is offering seven 20K shipping contracts from KI-401d They must be doing pretty well these days [12-Aug-22 12:21 PM] churavis#0000 Not well enough to buy a new ship, apparently {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (4) [12-Aug-22 01:24 PM] jackinabox86#0000 He just wants to bring more of his overpriced H to the CX [12-Aug-22 01:24 PM] churavis#0000 Don't we all [12-Aug-22 06:34 PM] dersix#0000 ki-401d is producing an awful lot of H ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Aug-22 06:34 PM] dersix#0000 I'm thinking of getting a 3k vol ship sooner or later {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฏ [12-Aug-22 10:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you do, post the design before getting it made. Less wiggle room / efficiency gains on emitter count when you get to the bigger ships, but there's still something there [13-Aug-22 02:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I planned to collect H in KI-401d before. After all, it is the planet with the highest yield nearby. But I have calculated the capacity that needs to be occupied. Basically, one of my ships must always serve this purpose, even if my H capacity is not mentioned as the highest. [13-Aug-22 02:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 So where did you turn H into fuel? I always think that the closer you are to the origin of H, the better. [13-Aug-22 02:13 AM] allocater#0000 you can make shipping contracts like Swift Mining Group [13-Aug-22 02:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 Will anyone come to pick up this kind of list? I think the boat with only novices will be idle. If the Corp owns a big ship, why should it serve its competitors? [13-Aug-22 04:46 AM] dersix#0000 already doing that, even steeling shippers from Swift Mining Group ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007948207290056714/unknown.png?ex=6814946b&is=681342eb&hm=71985b0e94c79458eea744ecffc002245e91f7996a22e771550c9bd37cad3f1e& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Aug-22 05:21 AM] allocater#0000 now undercut the monopoly on the CX [13-Aug-22 06:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1007970957329178744/unknown.png?ex=6814a99b&is=6813581b&hm=8c18c1dac95dfe2eabe7339b78593272d122f4bddef1ea532a68f198b80364e0& [13-Aug-22 06:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 I can buy a lot of pe and go back.๐Ÿ˜† [13-Aug-22 06:33 AM] jackinabox86#0000 We have refineries on Phobos and Nike. Shipping is a hassle, but we have two big corp ships more or less dedicated to it [13-Aug-22 06:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 I want to consult your opinion. I see that INS is sold very cheaply internally. I believe it is a welfare price, which is convenient for everyone to build on a special planet. On CX, is it appropriate for me to buy INS at the price of 225? I see that INS is very expensive in AI and CI areas. [13-Aug-22 06:40 AM] allocater#0000 production cost of INS is like 75, 100 at most, so the market is a scam right now [13-Aug-22 06:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that this is a kind of harvest by advanced players for new players who have not joined Corp. PP3 and the materials for producing INS are not available to new players. [13-Aug-22 06:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I thought about building a base on the planet with H before, and I saw that ANT's INS sold to 380 AIC. [13-Aug-22 07:36 AM] dersix#0000 INS price has been stupidly high in the last weeks and most likely will stay also a bit there, availability of AR was a limiting factor (now it is more readily available but rather expensive) [13-Aug-22 07:37 AM] dersix#0000 also the increase of shipping capacity is most likely feeding the INS consumption [13-Aug-22 07:38 AM] dersix#0000 in AI, it's almost exclusively supplied by slomes on CX [13-Aug-22 07:39 AM] dersix#0000 for the corp internal price, I'll keep it low for internal usage so that people can more easily colonize INS planets [13-Aug-22 07:39 AM] dersix#0000 so if you have any plans of getting your feet on an INS planet, feel free to buy on NIKE, I try to always have 3-4k available [13-Aug-22 07:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, the expensive INS price on cx can basically dispel my desire to build on a planet like QJ-382g. [13-Aug-22 07:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I plan to go to deimos for the third base and Hephaestus for the fourth base. Since we have enough fuel to use, but I don't have enough money to build a ship, I'll put INS planets' plan on hold. [13-Aug-22 09:01 AM] yjhasaday#0000 You're missing out. QJ-382g is where all the cool people are ๐Ÿ˜Ž (its just me - like literally I think I'm the only player on the whole planet lol) [13-Aug-22 09:01 AM] churavis#0000 So you're the coolest guy on the planet? [13-Aug-22 09:02 AM] yjhasaday#0000 And the biggest loser too ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ… [13-Aug-22 09:03 AM] churavis#0000 When you search "fat" in the emojis bank the only thing that comes up is santa {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (3) [13-Aug-22 09:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 @yjhasadayThe temperature of QJ-382g is minus 235, so you are really "cool"๐Ÿคฃ [13-Aug-22 09:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 Where you need to find some people to hug and keep warm. [13-Aug-22 09:29 AM] churavis#0000 Eww, gross, those things have germs and feelings [13-Aug-22 09:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 When people are going to freeze to death๐Ÿฅถ , even getting sick is acceptable. [13-Aug-22 09:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 But in fact, most people who freeze to death are naked because they have hallucinations. [13-Aug-22 09:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 So hugging to keep warm is just a metaphor, which means helping each other through the winter. [13-Aug-22 07:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1008168015357018132/unknown.png?ex=6814b861&is=681366e1&hm=24a87b4f198bdb1f80ee4004805f804611f426e359b4536f45699f0cd344b6f9& {Reactions} ๐Ÿงˆ [13-Aug-22 07:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 Cx in Ai area is much weirder than that in NEO area. [14-Aug-22 12:20 PM] churavis#0000 Does anyone know how my glass ship could take 90% damage in just a few weeks of just trips from Deimos to Antares II b and back? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1008424890182926447/unknown.png?ex=6814fedd&is=6813ad5d&hm=62d323438d91a2aab39a15e3e3170cefe7a86984c4a1afe2731ae4a5a4ba2ca5& [14-Aug-22 12:26 PM] dersix#0000 ANT II b is high pressure = more ship dmg, heat shielding would reduce that dmg [14-Aug-22 12:28 PM] churavis#0000 But I did tests and it usually only changed it by around 0.010% per trip [14-Aug-22 12:30 PM] churavis#0000 Do we make BPT? [14-Aug-22 12:32 PM] jackinabox86#0000 There is an error [14-Aug-22 12:32 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™ve seen other people post this and Molp fixed it on the official discord {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Aug-22 12:32 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™d ping him there [14-Aug-22 07:58 PM] Deleted User#0000 Flight Control is Offline [14-Aug-22 08:05 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‘ [14-Aug-22 08:42 PM] yuen8241#0000 If a pro account expires, can he still accept AD and contract normally? [14-Aug-22 09:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 Yeah {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Aug-22 09:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 Unless the PRO was gifted [14-Aug-22 09:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 In that case the account will revert to Trial/Free, no LM/custom contracts [14-Aug-22 09:34 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1008564262211436544/unknown.png?ex=6814d7ea&is=6813866a&hm=8ad12357c0a6ff6733cc07e861026b2e1d2f22e5f880c62b65be769569687159& [14-Aug-22 09:35 PM] yuen8241#0000 Can someone tell me why? The display has been calculating, and the fuel consumption cannot be selected. So I can't start. [14-Aug-22 09:37 PM] yuen8241#0000 It's not the first time I've encountered this kind of problem, and it usually gets better after a while. But it is really troublesome, especially when I am in a hurry to transport. [14-Aug-22 09:38 PM] exeler#0000 I think it's a glitch with the game that the devs need to sort out. Unfortunately they tend to be sleeping when people in the EST timezone are trying to play ๐Ÿ˜… [14-Aug-22 09:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 If so, I can only arrange my transportation task at night as much as possible.๐Ÿ˜ญ [14-Aug-22 09:52 PM] yuen8241#0000 At this time, the role of AD is reflected. If this problem lasts a little longer, my factory will not be able to start. [14-Aug-22 10:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have looked at the official statement, and this bug requires them to fix it manually, so people like me in the Eastern Hemisphere suffer too much.โ˜น๏ธ [15-Aug-22 12:47 AM] allocater#0000 I had gifted PRO and became basic [15-Aug-22 09:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 Do you have a calculator for base construction? Enter the building type and quantity, and automatically calculate the occupied area and the cost of materials. [15-Aug-22 09:23 AM] Deleted User#0000 I had gifted PRO and I went trial, I also confirmed with Saganaki before the PRO expired, this was a few months ago, when was your gifted PRO? [15-Aug-22 09:25 AM] Deleted User#0000 **A lot** of us use PRUNner and some pre-made spreadsheets, all of which can be found on the community resources page on the handbook. PRUNner is really easy for me since I donโ€™t know how to use sheets but I do think sheets has slightly better control. Community resources page link: [15-Aug-22 09:25 AM] Deleted User#0000 https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/community-resources/ Community Resources :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [15-Aug-22 09:26 AM] yuen8241#0000 ๐Ÿ˜€ thank you. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Aug-22 01:01 PM] allocater#0000 in february [15-Aug-22 01:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 Thats before mine, maybe they changed it [15-Aug-22 01:05 PM] allocater#0000 that's lame [16-Aug-22 04:33 PM] Deleted User#0000 Accidental invite, ignore [16-Aug-22 04:34 PM] churavis#0000 Be careful about the buttons you accidentally hit, we have no way of removing corp members who don't want to leave {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [16-Aug-22 04:35 PM] Deleted User#0000 Oh no its a friend of mine [16-Aug-22 04:36 PM] Deleted User#0000 Not a problem, will be more careful, mobile ui on a phone is tough to work with [17-Aug-22 04:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 At what level does hq usually encounter bottlenecks? Do not consider pro, only consider materials. [17-Aug-22 09:56 AM] dersix#0000 From 21 to 22 as the amount of afabs makes it stupidly expensive and getting them in the required quantity is quite hard [17-Aug-22 09:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that the obstacles I will encounter before the approval of ten bases will be relatively small. [17-Aug-22 10:41 AM] allocater#0000 I stopped when I reached the first A-fab upgrade [17-Aug-22 11:37 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone in corp make MEA or have a supplier? None on CX and I don't see anyone on our spreadsheet [17-Aug-22 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 nope, not aware of one [17-Aug-22 01:07 PM] dersix#0000 I'm buying CX as my consumption is manageable [17-Aug-22 01:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 What do you usually end up paying? [17-Aug-22 01:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've looked into MEA production but it's a lot of extra work and it seemed like it wasn't worth it compared to FIMs [17-Aug-22 01:18 PM] erklein#0000 I know Iโ€™ll be adding an IVP to my imminent base on YK. I can work on getting it up sooner rather than later [17-Aug-22 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 I do FIM @ 1200, I think MEA would have to be 2500/u internal price to make sense [17-Aug-22 09:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 Can I join Corp today? I think I've joined discord for a week.๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ [18-Aug-22 01:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 10% bonus to nike, which is great.๐Ÿคฃ [19-Aug-22 09:41 AM] allocater#0000 time is a flat circle ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1010196805067210812/unknown.png?ex=6814d996&is=68138816&hm=582f344b6967214e2032e950e036e2e41c56d40a8b57c03b59d54482756fe6ab& [19-Aug-22 10:49 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Can you let me know once you are making MEA? Looks like I'll be running without it until then lol ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Also if anyone has any at the CX I put up a pretty generous buy order in hopes that a rando might see it and bring some to CX! [19-Aug-22 11:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can provide PPA for MEA if anyone has an IVP. (and I can do all the other steps too) But IVPs + housing looks like it's gonna cost 400k and doesn't fit anywhere particualrly well for me. [21-Aug-22 08:00 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Today I bought 279 units of INS on Benten from molp himself! It' such an honour. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (5) [21-Aug-22 03:21 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey gang, not sure if this is the right spot for this but I could use your votes on the Haiku poll! There's a high cap FTL ship at stake and I'm currently 2nd in the running. I'd love to put a new FTL Heavy into service for the Corp... poll in the link below and thanks join advance! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 1st big haiku contest Ripples in spacetime Created by dancing stars As they intertwine https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gVHmR-oW4Bp37rebP6IEQJo66FrzYJvoNiAzbJSR7hs/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ad67fd4ca0362e1346846fd7add0f802f255ed2.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [21-Aug-22 03:22 PM] emperyan11#0000 (And if this isn't the right spot and /or inappropriate, please let me know and I will adjust.) [21-Aug-22 10:27 PM] emperyan11#0000 @everyone Thanks for the votes, I'm pulling ahead now! Keep 'em coming if you haven't voted! [22-Aug-22 09:44 AM] allocater#0000 perfect alignment {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1011284626079223888/unknown.png?ex=6814da33&is=681388b3&hm=ea0fe8cbce65280703815f0d7772d728e01be25c25f40f277f1591b64a7630b2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ (3) [22-Aug-22 10:24 AM] jackinabox86#0000 How long did it take? [22-Aug-22 10:31 AM] allocater#0000 14h, but I ended up burning more to get 4h [22-Aug-22 12:29 PM] Deleted User#0000 wow... waiting for planetary alignment... that's some next-level fuel-optimization right there... [22-Aug-22 12:43 PM] allocater#0000 I fly everyday, so even a broken clock is correct once an orbit ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ [22-Aug-22 03:40 PM] emperyan11#0000 Noice! [22-Aug-22 05:25 PM] insensless72#0000 *500 days later* pronounced in the Spongebob menu voice {Reactions} ๐Ÿงฝ (2) [22-Aug-22 05:25 PM] insensless72#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1011400825484087386/unknown.png?ex=68149dab&is=68134c2b&hm=a17b275f40b954596738db52b8c267a8674caa8c113db91d0deb3615e80ecfcd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) ๐ŸŽ‚ (2) [22-Aug-22 05:29 PM] Deleted User#0000 The โ€œStabilityโ€ rating might be a mystery forever to me, I think if we did have an answer, I would choose not to know itโ€ฆ. [22-Aug-22 05:35 PM] insensless72#0000 I am 99% of the time in the red for revenue. Only offset slightly but selling upgrades and ships. That (somehow) plays into the stablility rating. The only players I see with A ratings are the ones that are always in the green [22-Aug-22 05:37 PM] Deleted User#0000 I had a B rating for the longest time, went down to C and Iโ€™m now at A for the first time, Iโ€™ve been in the green 99% of the time [22-Aug-22 06:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mine seems to almost always be an "A". I figured it had something to do with the fact that my base components are always purchased, so my construction feeds into my fixed assets, but if you build with your own bfabs/etc then that money just "disappears" according to the FINBS..? that's pretty random speculation though [22-Aug-22 06:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 wow these numbers make me look really good. I wonder where they are coming from. [22-Aug-22 06:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/screenshot_082222_181025.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/screenshot_082222_181025.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/OLVLVYBmIxEdRZybundNVfu0qFZ-WAWqFg8KrALDlL0/http/kortham.net/temp/screenshot_082222_181025.png [22-Aug-22 06:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿค” [22-Aug-22 06:16 PM] Deleted User#0000 My profit carried over this period is 3.7m LMAO, I have no idea how, its also 1m higher than the last period ๐Ÿ˜† [23-Aug-22 03:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 Do you have a planet dedicated to inc? Where is it? [23-Aug-22 05:44 PM] insensless72#0000 I believe most of our INC are on Deimos or Harmonia. We do not have a planet 100% dedicated to INC [23-Aug-22 05:47 PM] rune_242#0000 QJ-650c right? [23-Aug-22 05:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I think QJ-650c is a resource extraction planet, or that is planned asap [23-Aug-22 05:49 PM] rune_242#0000 for now there just aren't quite enough crops so that we need a dedicated INC planet [23-Aug-22 05:50 PM] churavis#0000 But the point of a dedicated INC planet is to free up area on fertile planets for growing crops {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [23-Aug-22 05:50 PM] rune_242#0000 after all the FP is transferred to a dedicated FP planet (YK-649b) there will be more room for FRM's and HYF's so that will increase RAT/DW/C [23-Aug-22 05:51 PM] rune_242#0000 at the moment YK is still busy developing, but don't worry churavis and I are doing our best {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—๏ธ (2) [23-Aug-22 05:53 PM] rune_242#0000 by the end of the week my base should be ready and in 2 weeks I will have no more FP's on demeter and harmonia [23-Aug-22 05:54 PM] rune_242#0000 in the meantime I keep the infrastructure upgraded enough to handle the population increase and I'm also planning on becoming governor if the PAC is build [23-Aug-22 07:54 PM] exeler#0000 I'm curious, why was `YK-649b` chosen as FP? Is it just because of being 1 hop away from Harmonia? [23-Aug-22 08:06 PM] churavis#0000 Yes [23-Aug-22 08:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 Personally, I think that the one close to harmonia is more suitable as inc, because C is much heavier than consumables. [23-Aug-22 08:12 PM] churavis#0000 We'll be importing burnables from Demeter anyways [23-Aug-22 08:12 PM] churavis#0000 QJ-650 already has a resource extraction COGC and all the infrastructure [23-Aug-22 08:14 PM] yuen8241#0000 It's a pity that there isn't an easily colonized planet near demeter, otherwise we can directly make consumables there. [23-Aug-22 08:14 PM] churavis#0000 You could try out Australia [23-Aug-22 08:14 PM] yuen8241#0000 Just like promiter and avalon [23-Aug-22 08:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1011806203183120486/unknown.png?ex=6814c5b5&is=68137435&hm=2f671cf0b43205b7916c292aa11f6c6acbd6596dc89d87dcf8123fd9d0a21aa6& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [23-Aug-22 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 Apart from the gas planet, there is nothing more expensive than this, right?๐Ÿ˜… [23-Aug-22 08:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that the nominator thinks Australia are living in hot water. [24-Aug-22 01:39 AM] allocater#0000 high pressure would be worse [24-Aug-22 05:08 AM] rune_242#0000 and high gravity [24-Aug-22 03:37 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Any FIM available anywhere now?? [24-Aug-22 03:38 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Also where is the best place to buy RAT these days? Harmonia still? It appears Demeter is having some issues keeping up with feeding its own bases? [24-Aug-22 03:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's a lot of RAT production on Harmonia from other people I think, but I mostly make my RAT/FIM/MEA on Nike now. I think Demeter is fine on food production- there's a non OOG member who wants to buy cheap RATs there. [24-Aug-22 03:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 (where do you use your FIM/MEA, btw?) [24-Aug-22 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 200 RAT and 16 FIM on Harmonia, and 500 RAT, 8 FIM, 8 MEA @4000 on Nike. [24-Aug-22 04:04 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I use them on Phobos for electronics buildings - RAT I need most on Nike because its my biggest base [24-Aug-22 04:04 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Posted for all of these on the LMs, thanks! [24-Aug-22 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 awesome thanks. the FPs are going full speed ahead, so there should be more soon. [24-Aug-22 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 100% of my RAT, FIM, and MEA goes to the corp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [24-Aug-22 06:28 PM] insensless72#0000 @yjhasaday is now our @deleted-role, @dersix is now our @deleted-role , and @jackinabox86is now our @deleted-role. Thank you guys for taking on these roles ๐Ÿฅณ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [24-Aug-22 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahhh, I'm sorry I meant to say post it in the #welcome channel ๐Ÿคฆ [24-Aug-22 06:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 or rules maybe... whatever best acts as a reference sheet for new people [24-Aug-22 06:41 PM] churavis#0000 If you guys ever start feeling overwhelmed, let us know and we can create new roles to delegate responsibilities so no one gets burned out [24-Aug-22 07:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 Iโ€™m not sure what the status on the โ€œpricing of prefabsโ€ is, can someone bring me up to speed? [24-Aug-22 07:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 Was it ever being discussed? I forgot [24-Aug-22 07:44 PM] jackinabox86#0000 New prices were put in the corp sheet. You can either ask someone directly if they have stock or ask in the planet channel. What Iโ€™ve done when Iโ€™m in a hurry is just post on the LM at the highest price on the sheet [24-Aug-22 08:03 PM] Deleted User#0000 Got em, thanks [24-Aug-22 08:08 PM] Deleted User#0000 Iโ€™ll update my part of the sheet later when I can to the new prices to keep everything consistent [25-Aug-22 11:33 AM] churavis#0000 Has anyone done a deep dive into the best RAT recipe? [25-Aug-22 11:49 AM] allocater#0000 GRN BEA NUT [25-Aug-22 11:52 AM] yang_mills#0000 +1 [25-Aug-22 01:12 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Why? Just curious what factor makes it best? [25-Aug-22 01:31 PM] insensless72#0000 1 NUT recipe = 12 6 BEA recipe = 12 3 GRN recipe = 12 They all take the same time to complete (1 day 9hrs for me) and it's relatively low on water, 10 H2O combined. Then 12 of each makes 120 RAT [25-Aug-22 01:32 PM] domicius#0000 I use NUT/BEA/HCP, as I use HCP/GRN/MAI for fast C [25-Aug-22 02:21 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Interesting. When I produced them, I went with GRN/VEG/BEA since I thought I got them done a bit faster, but it did take more water. As long as you don't need NS or something, it's not a huge difference. The perfect sync on all that is nice [25-Aug-22 02:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have done a deep dive on RAT production. Assuming you're getting water at 15/u, and pioneer supplies at cost, the labor + material costs of the potential foodstuffs are: [25-Aug-22 02:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_14-53-12.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_14-53-12.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9g-HZqnvmt4x8ks6VLsaMKsk3ldiC5QBNAoayKwnwJg/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_14-53-12.png [25-Aug-22 02:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 So MAI edges out GRN on cost ever so slightly, although folks like GRN for C, so maybe it has more utility in being "swappable" as needed. [25-Aug-22 02:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 I only use VEG for FOD. [25-Aug-22 02:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Did you evaluate the profit over time or over area? Those matter a lot more to me than input costs [25-Aug-22 02:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 They all come from FRMs here so the area is the same for all of those. [25-Aug-22 02:58 PM] allocater#0000 how did you calculate labor costs? I put 10 dummy labor costs per minute with water 15/u and ~~MAI never was the cheapest~~ MAI is only cheapest with very little costs {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1012450896363409418/unknown.png?ex=681523e0&is=6813d260&hm=c84c8accb12af3beb292b87625656333198cf32b2739a438c3dbf2658a4a48d8& [25-Aug-22 02:58 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Not totally true. If given inputs produce faster, you could need less farms for the same amount of output rats [25-Aug-22 02:59 PM] jackinabox86#0000 but in this case it's almost certainly so small on area as to not matter; the profit over time is my #1 consideration though [25-Aug-22 03:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 FRM costing 401.73 / 24 hours, DW: 103.04 RAT: 147.58 OVE:23.32 POW: 21.06 COF:106.74. Admittedly those are very low costs, based on an iterative calculation of each of those production costs. I'm thinking of putting in overrides at corp costs, but haven't gotten around to it [25-Aug-22 03:03 PM] allocater#0000 trying to zoom in on that cost {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1012452265170309223/unknown.png?ex=68152526&is=6813d3a6&hm=b1a951c5eb32280e7888866702e32fa379f7585e305624b1ea0594b7e829a9bf& [25-Aug-22 03:04 PM] allocater#0000 probably 0.27 AIC per minute [25-Aug-22 03:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess I'd have to think about that, because this price per unit does account for a lower labor cost. I think you can just take the production cost and divide each FRM recipe by the farm's area to get what you're looking for. That being said, I do think there's actually a case to be made from MUS from HYF in RAT production. [25-Aug-22 03:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 What's the X axis here? [25-Aug-22 03:05 PM] allocater#0000 labor cost per minute {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Aug-22 03:06 PM] allocater#0000 so there is indeed a window where MAI is cheapest [25-Aug-22 03:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I haven't modeled building depreciation yet, which is a known issue for sure. But that can be considered an added labor cost. [25-Aug-22 03:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Pretty sure building depreciation is a decent chunk of MEA price, but it's probably small for RATs. [25-Aug-22 03:09 PM] allocater#0000 shows MAI window from 0.12 to 0.28 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1012453623634083870/unknown.png?ex=6815266a&is=6813d4ea&hm=7107884521ad1954560ed9c9984652527a443949cb080c7eb533fb449ffcf6ad& [25-Aug-22 03:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm, yeah, that's a nice chart, very helpful way to visualize this. [25-Aug-22 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm at 150% eff on both my FRM worlds so that pushes labor costs down too. [25-Aug-22 03:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 @jackinabox86 You inspired a few new columns: [25-Aug-22 03:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_15-35-26.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_15-35-26.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8TKXXsfZyWoWJabOd1YkZlgqq1El9GBpt7gdJ8kLHcA/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_15-35-26.png [25-Aug-22 03:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I only care about profit, so I take the profit of a chain and divide it by the area (incorporating the necessary habitation area) and I can get a profit per area "square." It hasn't really mattered since I haven't been constrained by area yet, but that's how I figure that. [25-Aug-22 03:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm 80% sure those numbers are right (for my assumptions) [25-Aug-22 03:37 PM] jackinabox86#0000 It looks cool to me; can't play around with an image [25-Aug-22 03:38 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I'd bet that your grn, bea, veg recipe would be the most profitable [25-Aug-22 03:38 PM] jackinabox86#0000 because you're getting the most units per day. Even with a higher input cost, the excess production is likely enough to make it the most profitable [25-Aug-22 03:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 This is a complicated mess, but you can duplicate it and mess with it. It also takes a super long time to calculate cause it has a lot of dependencies among fields and a lot of vlookups: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQio-Ou2znYif25GijFgRz9XSCVPSM8YGqcsMZu6EoQ/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQio-Ou2znYif25GijFgRz9XSCVPSM8YGqcsMZu6EoQ/edit?usp=sharing Archiel Price Calc Extractor Core Price Name,MAT,Extractor,Planet Count,Average Conc,Extr / day,BUI,Labor Cost/day,BUI Cost/d,cost/d,cost/u,Input/d,Output/d,profit / d,vol/d,Input aluminiumOre,ALO,MINERAL,137,0.19,13.57,EXT,482.07,520.44,38.4,0, ammonia,AMM,GASEOUS,89,0.05,3.15,COL,401.73,588.92,187.2 ammonia,AMM... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/A4QOR0sCzp4V_QZMzKHr9YIAjwGxGumlKzAz1efZskE/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/G75ZW4YWrll-_Qkz5x4N6nlNsGGYg0ZEjTrxxaNrCpQg137vrX3MbLiF4AtAIRv0puO67BWRDqWXOQ%3Dw1200-h630-p [25-Aug-22 03:38 PM] jackinabox86#0000 and it's the most useful bc you actually get RATs in people's mouths! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ€ (2) ๐Ÿ‘„ (2) ๐ŸŒฏ [25-Aug-22 03:41 PM] jackinabox86#0000 we should have a convention where we all talk about our personal spreadsheets and go through how they work. I'm not the best at all this, but I'd definitely learn a lot and enjoy the hell out of it [25-Aug-22 03:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 hm I think I have a mistake on the cost/u/day. [25-Aug-22 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, the one thing my sheet doesn't handle is multiple output recipes, so HAL -> NA + CL messes up a lot of prices [25-Aug-22 03:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you know the cost of the HAL, how do you split up the value into the NA and the CL? one might be super useful and the other a garbage by-product [25-Aug-22 05:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 This overall is an example of the problem I think about most, how to model all chains, short or long, against one another for profitability. Lots of good tools for specific recipes, but not as much for frm output with fp output for example [25-Aug-22 05:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, here's another calculation that's interesting- maybe closer to what you were looking for. For each of the RAT products- assume you are making them into RATs that sell for 50/u, and attribute the value of the ration to each input. (thinking about the chain as a whole). Then the income / day of each farm (ignoring FP costs, since they are the same for each ration recipe), you get this: [25-Aug-22 05:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_17-14-21.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_17-14-21.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/u7Mw1-8PuOp_rKip8JuoqqSx9GoV_04cv7D0HpNHyKQ/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-08-25_17-14-21.png [25-Aug-22 05:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 So if you are area constrained, HYF making mushrooms make more RAT inputs per unit area. But also HYFs cost like 300k AIC compared to farms under 1/10th of that. [25-Aug-22 08:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 What if we had a list of all sheets made for personal [ as long as its fine with being public ] use and corp use available on a Google Doc with a simple single sentence description? It would become a massive library at some point but I think it would help {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Aug-22 08:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 We could also have graphs and other forms of information available like this [25-Aug-22 08:25 PM] yuen8241#0000 I had this idea when I first started playing this game. [25-Aug-22 08:26 PM] Deleted User#0000 If more people would be down to contribute anything they can then lets get it started [26-Aug-22 07:40 AM] rune_242#0000 I think the best RAT recipe is MUS/MAI/NUT [26-Aug-22 08:37 AM] churavis#0000 Care to elaborate why? [26-Aug-22 11:19 AM] _bojidar#0000 Joined the server. [26-Aug-22 11:32 AM] dersix#0000 [26-Aug-22 11:34 AM] _bojidar#0000 hey ๐Ÿ™‚ how you doing? [26-Aug-22 11:36 AM] _bojidar#0000 I decided to show up and see how is it after i talked with @insensless72 ๐Ÿ™‚ if i actually can fit [26-Aug-22 11:49 AM] yang_mills#0000 [26-Aug-22 11:49 AM] allocater#0000 [26-Aug-22 11:49 AM] yang_mills#0000 Hello, @_bojidar ! Where are you based and what do you produce? [26-Aug-22 12:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ‘‹ Hello and welcome ๐Ÿ‘‹ [26-Aug-22 12:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 [26-Aug-22 12:48 PM] insensless72#0000 [26-Aug-22 01:04 PM] _bojidar#0000 Hey again. I.m on Katoa. Only fuel for now..I.m new yet :) [26-Aug-22 01:35 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [26-Aug-22 01:57 PM] churavis#0000 Katoa is quite far away from everyone else in the corp [26-Aug-22 02:58 PM] dersix#0000 I've actually a base on umbra ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Aug-22 02:59 PM] dersix#0000 And I'll support him with getting more involved in OOG business [26-Aug-22 03:00 PM] dersix#0000 And as I've started on Boucher, almost 1 day trips to CX were normal for me in the beginning ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Aug-22 03:03 PM] _bojidar#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ :) [26-Aug-22 03:14 PM] yang_mills#0000 Do you plan to build a base in Antares area? [26-Aug-22 03:26 PM] _bojidar#0000 Yes, there are nice planets..nice resources, but when I can afford it later on :) [26-Aug-22 03:29 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome to OOG! Take a bit to explore our Discord and get comfortable. Make sure to read #welcome and #rules-faq. After your 7 day trial, investment packages will be offered to you in youre interested in expanding into Antares. We have plenty of active players so if you ever have any questions, reach out and someone will be of assistance. [26-Aug-22 03:30 PM] _bojidar#0000 Thank you :) [26-Aug-22 03:36 PM] insensless72#0000 Im updating the corporate sheet to accurately reflect active members, it will look different next time you look at it, just a heads up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [26-Aug-22 04:06 PM] thummper#0000 [26-Aug-22 06:37 PM] Deleted User#0000 @_bojidar if you want another person to trade with around Benten, Iโ€™m here, I have bases on Etherwind and Umbra, producing PG and DW, consuming PIO/SET consumables, H, C and MG [fuel too Ofcourse]. So if you make/want any of what I just listed, send me a message and a contract [26-Aug-22 06:38 PM] Deleted User#0000 I am planning on expanding more around the area, so Iโ€™m open to suggestions [26-Aug-22 06:52 PM] yang_mills#0000 Fuel? He have in our corp some big hydrogen H producers. Like @yjhasaday. [26-Aug-22 07:09 PM] emperyan11#0000 @here Hey all,I could use your votes on the Haiku poll! There's a high cap FTL ship at stake and I'm currently 1st in the running! I want to put that FTL Heavy into service for the Corp... vote in the poll in the link below and thanks in advance and a huge thanks to everyone who voted already. https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 1st big haiku contest Ripples in spacetime Created by dancing stars As they intertwine https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gVHmR-oW4Bp37rebP6IEQJo66FrzYJvoNiAzbJSR7hs/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ad67fd4ca0362e1346846fd7add0f802f255ed2.png [27-Aug-22 08:30 AM] yang_mills#0000 @_bojidar Unfortunately SF fuel prices will start dropping quickly in Antares area. And they are already low in Benten area. Perhaps you would like to transition into something else, other than fuel refining. [27-Aug-22 08:31 AM] yang_mills#0000 @_bojidar Have you listened to the podcast by SeaPear? He talks about fuel supply and demand. https://shows.acast.com/pear-talks-prun-a-prosperous-universe-podcast/episodes/pear-talks-prun-ep-1-talking-about-the-fuel-market-inflation {Embed} https://shows.acast.com/pear-talks-prun-a-prosperous-universe-podcast/episodes/pear-talks-prun-ep-1-talking-about-the-fuel-market-inflation Pear Talks Prun Ep. 1: Talking about the Fuel Market, Inflation & S... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aeCh45hhn0xMJP2QT7znAecjs2gmKmmKDQ9Ufqf0eaE/https/res.cloudinary.com/pippa/image/fetch/c_pad%2Cw_600%2Ch_315/https%3A/assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1661467389091-1f948bb09c77c8b6e550ab0a5ef61ee0.jpeg {Reactions} ๐ŸŽง [27-Aug-22 08:48 AM] _bojidar#0000 Yes, I see that .. well yes I will startsomething else ..asap when I have needed materials :) [27-Aug-22 09:48 AM] yang_mills#0000 Are you interested in producing carbon in Antares area? Prices are exceptionally good now. [27-Aug-22 09:49 AM] _bojidar#0000 Sounds nice [27-Aug-22 09:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 We need people who produce C and metallurgy. [27-Aug-22 09:52 AM] Deleted User#0000 This is the kind of question that deserves some thought. You will be working on this for a long while and probably extend to the next step in the chain, as you expand, which for carbon is going to be metals. [27-Aug-22 09:52 AM] _bojidar#0000 I like C ... which planet would be somewhat fertile with h2o? [27-Aug-22 09:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 harmonia and demeter [27-Aug-22 09:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 Etherwind is more suitable for manufacturing dw and hydroponic crops. [27-Aug-22 09:53 AM] allocater#0000 or we set you up on QJ-149c - the future INC planet [27-Aug-22 09:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 Considering the transportation capacity, harmonia is more suitable. [27-Aug-22 09:54 AM] _bojidar#0000 Well ok but ..I need to raise my HQ first then and will see what I need [27-Aug-22 09:55 AM] Deleted User#0000 ... or you could break everything down and move your HQ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [27-Aug-22 09:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can even move to etherwind to sell drinking water to make money. [27-Aug-22 09:56 AM] _bojidar#0000 Lol..btw if some1 destroy his HQ and don't have other planets..what happens? [27-Aug-22 09:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 When you only have one planet, you can't destroy your hq [27-Aug-22 09:58 AM] _bojidar#0000 I see. Ty for the Intel:) [27-Aug-22 09:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 This is the interesting and exciting part of the game. Enjoy! [27-Aug-22 09:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can produce dw from ethermind and ship it to ai, or you can ship some goods with price advantage back from benten, which will be useful to Corp And it's a quick way to make money. Next, you can produce C and consumables that we all lack. [27-Aug-22 10:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 The price of fuel has dropped a lot recently. Considering that you don't have a base on Planet H, you are very uncompetitive. [27-Aug-22 10:00 AM] _bojidar#0000 I already started some C production around here..but would be better to start a new planet there as lots of it is needed as you said anyway [27-Aug-22 10:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you don't have many assets, you can even restart the company to start over quickly. [27-Aug-22 11:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 I would have definitely put my HQ somewhere other than Antares owned space if I knew what I was doing sooner. [27-Aug-22 11:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 ohh wait you don't need to rebuild it from scratch, the wiki says [27-Aug-22 11:20 AM] jackinabox86#0000 You can move it once a month for free [27-Aug-22 11:22 AM] jackinabox86#0000 If you want to play with us, Iโ€™d make sure all of your early bases stay in the ANT core (Nike, Deimos, Harmonia, Phobos, Heph) then you can specialize as you have more bases. We can sell you cheaper prefabs and probably offer a loan in a few days. We all do better when you have an established operation @_bojidar [27-Aug-22 11:22 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Shipping constraints hit fast and you donโ€™t want to be too spread out and have to reconfigure once it hits. HQ upgrades are easy for us to help with ad well [27-Aug-22 11:24 AM] _bojidar#0000 So it is just destroy HQ and rebuild it on other planet same lvl? Nothing else lose [27-Aug-22 11:27 AM] insensless72#0000 You have several options. You can leave your initial base, plan out your 2nd base in the Antares system (how many fabs, consumables, constructions mats etc) and these will be provided to you from internal suppliers, along with a 200-300k starting investment package from the Bank to get you started. You could rip down as much as possible and bring to to Antares with you to use as a foundation for base 2. Or you could coliq and restart from scratch in Antares [27-Aug-22 11:34 AM] _bojidar#0000 Well..as I said I.m ok to start a new planet and then eventually move HQ there if i dont lose all i have so far. And after...make more planets there and so on.. . but to destroy all just like that .. I don't like that..at least atm :) [27-Aug-22 11:35 AM] allocater#0000 do you have a free permit to start a second base? [27-Aug-22 11:36 AM] _bojidar#0000 Yes {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Aug-22 11:36 AM] churavis#0000 Doesn't everyone start with an extra permit? [27-Aug-22 11:37 AM] _bojidar#0000 Well I have built 2 more planets..I guess that's why asking [27-Aug-22 12:13 PM] dersix#0000 my starting planet was boucher, but I've liquidated that when shipping was too much of a burden ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Aug-22 12:56 PM] _bojidar#0000 yea well obviouslly i wont need to shipping anything from Katoa area..so no issues there..since i will make a planet for C that is needed....and later on others planets there [27-Aug-22 01:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 I really liked SeaPear's podcast. I see he is looking for podcast guests, I wonder if anyone here wants to talk about the economics of ship construction [27-Aug-22 01:29 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome @_bojidar! As stated earlier @jackinabox86 and myself take care of fuel supply for the corp, you're welcome to help us out. If you need any fuel inputs we have supply chains in place for those resources and we can offer you a good price on them ๐Ÿ™‚ Just let us know what you need. I keep H and AMM stocks on Nike, so if you're in the area I'm happy to sell you some [27-Aug-22 05:01 PM] yang_mills#0000 Perhaps @allocater or @insensless72 know well the subjecy. [28-Aug-22 05:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 Crossed over 1,000,000 AIC last night. It took 65 days. It's not the fastest, by far, I am sure, but it was fun figuring out how to quickly reach that milestone. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ (4) [28-Aug-22 06:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 1 million cash? I've never reached this number. [28-Aug-22 06:04 AM] Deleted User#0000 The shrewd way to play would be investing all cash in the market, trying to catch deals. Just cannot be bothered to manage all those entries. Plus, been fun watching it accumulate. [28-Aug-22 06:05 AM] allocater#0000 now you can make one big investment ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-22 08:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 What I own is either debt or inventory, basically no more than 100,000 in cash. [28-Aug-22 08:16 AM] dersix#0000 It took me much longer to have that much cash on hand, I have in the beginning always invested everything I had for expansion ๐Ÿ˜‚ [28-Aug-22 08:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 Investing my assets in low-income industries leads me to have to rely on market transactions to subsidize my finances. [28-Aug-22 08:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 According to pruner's calculation, my bases now only produce 70k profit a day. [28-Aug-22 08:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 If there is a well-developed consumable planet, a single base can be 50k a day, not to mention industries such as drones. [28-Aug-22 08:33 AM] allocater#0000 70k per day is pretty good, my farm base is 10k per day for months [28-Aug-22 09:36 AM] Deleted User#0000 Nice, I crossed 1m just recently too, now 1.3m and thinking of how to spend it ๐Ÿค” [28-Aug-22 09:38 AM] insensless72#0000 Took me 200days to break 1mil ๐Ÿ˜‚ [28-Aug-22 09:39 AM] churavis#0000 I've never gotten close to 1mil because there's always another base to build or expand [28-Aug-22 09:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'd rather swap my money for goods and hoard them. [28-Aug-22 09:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 My cash usually exists in the market as a bill, and I will cancel it if I am short of money. [28-Aug-22 10:17 AM] balbar#0000 Joined the server. [28-Aug-22 10:19 AM] Deleted User#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:19 AM] balbar#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:20 AM] Deleted User#0000 Welcome to OOG! ๐Ÿ‘‹ [28-Aug-22 10:21 AM] balbar#0000 thanks for having me [28-Aug-22 10:23 AM] dersix#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:23 AM] insensless72#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:25 AM] allocater#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:58 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [28-Aug-22 10:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 @balbar wanna tell us a bit about your company? Bases, what you do, and all that? [28-Aug-22 11:00 AM] balbar#0000 sure, I got two bases. one on phobos doing DW/RAT and a bit of C and one on QJ-382c doing SF [28-Aug-22 11:01 AM] balbar#0000 the Carbon in the company name is basically just because thats the template i started with [28-Aug-22 11:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 We should talk the #bank-of-oog into funding you a FRM base or two then. Harmonia and Demeter! ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-22 11:03 AM] balbar#0000 still trying to decide what to do next. I got the HQ leveled to 8, so no problem on that front ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-22 11:05 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome to OOG! If you have any questions/concerns let us know. Feel free to explore the Discord and take a minute to read the #welcome and #rules-faq, we do have a week long trial period in the Discord before officially inviting in game but you can use all OOG resources and internal trading during this time. We offer stable corp rates on refueling on the main Antares planets (8/u for both SF and FF on Nike/Phobos/Deimos) - just post a buy ad on the LM then message us in the Fuel Ops channel! Happy trading! [28-Aug-22 11:33 AM] _bojidar#0000 from build ship channel...the point is that since there are no limits for ships..and people can make there own unlimited fleet it kinda make pointless getting new people in..since all can do everything by them selfs and ship it all by them self..and it is even worse globally for this game ... if there are new players..who will even buy there production or need them to ship for the rich...since most people are self producing and shipping everything..so new players will be even less attracted to play here...and basically if any game dont attract and keep new players..it is just matter of time to go down.. well will be interested to see other thoughts ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-22 11:35 AM] dersix#0000 new players have a lot of opportunities, yes shipping is getting less and less a constrain but still permits are limiting [28-Aug-22 11:36 AM] dersix#0000 I for example only do one type of consumable and that's FIM (as the market is not offering enough for my need), everything else I buy from corp or CX [28-Aug-22 11:36 AM] dersix#0000 and I know a lot of older players do it the same (as consumables are a really great way of getting involved) [28-Aug-22 11:39 AM] _bojidar#0000 may be i got it wrong but i think i have read somewhere there isnt any limits for HQ upgrades if PRO ..beside its getting more and more expensive.. [28-Aug-22 11:41 AM] Deleted User#0000 Yeah I could afford a ship and I desperately need one but Iโ€™m forced to basic [28-Aug-22 11:43 AM] yang_mills#0000 [28-Aug-22 11:44 AM] allocater#0000 at the moment there is an economic boom and AL and C and all consumables are very expensive, so lots of profit to be made by new players [28-Aug-22 11:44 AM] yang_mills#0000 Welcome Balbar! I noticed your contributions to Phobos COGC. [28-Aug-22 11:46 AM] balbar#0000 No problem, i usually try to add some stuff if i have it available when the notification comes up [28-Aug-22 01:09 PM] dersix#0000 the upgrade 21->22 is getting crazy expensive (and the afabs are not even available in numbers on CX normally) [28-Aug-22 01:10 PM] dersix#0000 but a lot of people stop before, getting up to 14 is relatively cheap [28-Aug-22 01:10 PM] _bojidar#0000 well 15 bases seems quiet enough ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-22 01:12 PM] balbar#0000 pretty sure i'll stick to way fewer than 15. sounds like work at that point๐Ÿ˜ƒ [28-Aug-22 01:13 PM] dersix#0000 if you spend some STO for your bases and using shipping contracts, it's actually not that bad [28-Aug-22 01:14 PM] balbar#0000 true, "worst" part is keeping everything supplied with 2 ships [28-Aug-22 01:16 PM] _bojidar#0000 ships should be more expensive for each after like bases imo [28-Aug-22 01:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 No one is โ€œforcedโ€ to use two ships. Devs have to eat, so I donโ€™t think itโ€™s unfair that they have a point at which players need to contribute. [28-Aug-22 01:24 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Also, additional ships just generate more economic activity that needs to be fulfilled. Sure shipping contracts will be reduced, but the new bases will need lots of consumables. No one can vertically integrate everything. [28-Aug-22 01:27 PM] balbar#0000 i guess you technically could..it would just be horrifically inefficent ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-22 01:29 PM] _bojidar#0000 after lvl5 when get 2 more spots for queue..what else is there after and at what lvls if any? [28-Aug-22 01:30 PM] dersix#0000 in the hq-upgrade channel there's a sticky pointing to the upgrade table [28-Aug-22 01:44 PM] _bojidar#0000 ty [28-Aug-22 01:45 PM] Deleted User#0000 You can use this link: https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [28-Aug-22 01:55 PM] _bojidar#0000 ok so i need to know eventually if i should go for C producing planet or else? [28-Aug-22 01:58 PM] _bojidar#0000 or this is something to talk after a week ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-22 02:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 [28-Aug-22 02:21 PM] allocater#0000 Nascent is the C production planet, you can join me there. We will ship crops from harmonia and demeter there. [28-Aug-22 02:26 PM] Deleted User#0000 Just heard of Nascent, how far is it from ANT? [28-Aug-22 02:26 PM] allocater#0000 2 jumps, but long jumps ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Aug-22 03:13 PM] _bojidar#0000 hmm i think to produce C on harmonia ...Nascent is good for ALO why waste it ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-22 09:16 PM] Deleted User#0000 Deimos will be better for ALO and metallurgy [29-Aug-22 01:22 AM] allocater#0000 ALO and INC will both profit from the Resource Extraction bonus on Nascent [29-Aug-22 09:18 AM] v_barbosa#0000 Joined the server. [29-Aug-22 09:31 AM] Deleted User#0000 [29-Aug-22 09:35 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [29-Aug-22 09:37 AM] balbar#0000 [29-Aug-22 09:40 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Glad to see you made it @v_barbosa - Welcome to OOG! Feel free to explore the Discord and let us know if you have any questions/concerns. Take a minute to read the #welcome and #rules-faq. As we discussed there is a week long period in the Discord before we officially invite you in game, but you are welcome to use all of OOG's internal resources and trade during that time ๐Ÿ™‚ Can you let us know what planets you have bases on and what industries you are in so @insensless72 can set up your roles and we can get an idea of what we can trade with you? [29-Aug-22 09:49 AM] Deleted User#0000 [29-Aug-22 10:06 AM] allocater#0000 [29-Aug-22 11:21 AM] exeler#0000 [29-Aug-22 11:52 AM] emperyan11#0000 @here Hi everyone! I believe it is the last 5 days of voting so I appreciate any support you can give me. A big thanks to everyone who has helped keep me on top! Looking forward to (hopefully) being able help with corp shipping. If you haven't already, check out the link to the forums and give me a vote. Cheers and thanks in advance! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 1st big haiku contest Ripples in spacetime Created by dancing stars As they intertwine https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gVHmR-oW4Bp37rebP6IEQJo66FrzYJvoNiAzbJSR7hs/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ad67fd4ca0362e1346846fd7add0f802f255ed2.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Aug-22 12:18 PM] dersix#0000 [29-Aug-22 01:36 PM] insensless72#0000 [29-Aug-22 06:07 PM] yang_mills#0000 [30-Aug-22 05:55 PM] v_barbosa#0000 Hey guys, nice to meet you all! I only have one base at the moment in Deimos, with 1 Extractor + 2 Smelters producing AL and 1 Cleanroom producing SWF. My current plan is to build more Smelters to produce +80 AL/day :) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) [30-Aug-22 06:59 PM] churavis#0000 Who nuked the DW market? [30-Aug-22 08:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Water is also way up. [30-Aug-22 08:34 PM] churavis#0000 Enough to cause people to panic buy DW? [30-Aug-22 08:35 PM] churavis#0000 Input scarcity spikes usually happen more gradually as people slowly exhaust their stocks [30-Aug-22 08:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 FP is very easy to substitute DW and Water. It looks like the water price started rising before the FW price went up. But neither had unusual volumes that accompany someone playing market games.. also not really an indication of panic buying in either volume listing [30-Aug-22 08:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wonder if a regular producer left. [30-Aug-22 09:20 PM] allocater#0000 I hope it wasn't me by making a detour with the water tanker to get H. I can still feed a bit DW at 60 until the next delivery, but I can't fill the DW market volume on my own [30-Aug-22 09:21 PM] churavis#0000 Your DW order stopped it from going even higher [30-Aug-22 09:21 PM] churavis#0000 Also, why would you undercut yourself? [30-Aug-22 09:29 PM] allocater#0000 to still provide reasonable prices for buyers of low volumes, but high volume buyers have to pay 99 now. This should cause some demand constraints until the drought is resolved [31-Aug-22 02:15 AM] yang_mills#0000 I did. Bought 3K DW on CX. Because the upkeep on Phobos won't fill itself. There is a lot of DW needed. [31-Aug-22 05:46 AM] dersix#0000 I think I've bought like 4k for refilling some bases ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-Aug-22 07:43 AM] exeler#0000 I think I also contributed lol. I bought 1k recently [31-Aug-22 08:13 AM] churavis#0000 I knew it, whenever a market gets nuked it's always one of us {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… (2) [31-Aug-22 10:50 AM] Deleted User#0000 There's 600 DW on Harmonia LM at 60/u [31-Aug-22 03:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Anyone have any CU laying around? Either a small amount on ANT or 40-50ish elsewhere? Not a huge rush, especially if it's not on ANT [31-Aug-22 03:47 PM] domicius#0000 18 on Phobos [31-Aug-22 03:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 ooh sure, I'll take it. How much? [31-Aug-22 03:48 PM] domicius#0000 800pu {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [31-Aug-22 03:48 PM] domicius#0000 I'll have more - smelt it regularly [31-Aug-22 03:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll send an ad [31-Aug-22 03:55 PM] erklein#0000 General question I'm curious about for everybody: what's the general goal/amount of profit that you would consider a full 500 area base would/should make per day? [31-Aug-22 03:57 PM] churavis#0000 I don't think the profit matters as much as how well it fits into your overall supply chains [31-Aug-22 03:59 PM] dersix#0000 completely agree, a stable supply chain is very important [31-Aug-22 03:59 PM] dersix#0000 (including consumables ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [31-Aug-22 05:20 PM] complover116#0000 Joined the server. [31-Aug-22 05:20 PM] insensless72#0000 [31-Aug-22 05:20 PM] complover116#0000 Hi [31-Aug-22 05:21 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome! Tell us a little about yourself so I can get your roles set up. Where are you located, do you have a specialty? [31-Aug-22 05:22 PM] complover116#0000 I chose Metallurgy, on Desmos [31-Aug-22 05:22 PM] complover116#0000 I'm extremely new to the game [31-Aug-22 05:23 PM] complover116#0000 So I'm currently producing aluminum and doing shipping contracts [31-Aug-22 05:23 PM] rune_242#0000 [31-Aug-22 05:24 PM] insensless72#0000 Awesome, youll find a high demand for that here. Will you send me your company code so I can change your name? [31-Aug-22 05:24 PM] rune_242#0000 should we set him up with a starter package on harmonia? [31-Aug-22 05:24 PM] insensless72#0000 I always offer after the 7 day trial {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [31-Aug-22 05:25 PM] complover116#0000 Thank you for immediately jumping in to help, but I am currently trialing the game, so I would like to wait until I'm certain I'm in for the long haul before committing ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-Aug-22 05:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 [31-Aug-22 05:25 PM] insensless72#0000 Thats perfectly fine! I just meant so I can change your name in Discord [31-Aug-22 05:25 PM] complover116#0000 Company code should be ALG [31-Aug-22 05:25 PM] dersix#0000 [31-Aug-22 05:27 PM] insensless72#0000 Feel free to hang around in discord as long as youd like. We typically do a 7 day trial but if you feel that might be too quick for you we can extend that. During that time you have access to everyting OOG in Discord. Shipping, selling, buying interally etc. You just wont receive dividend payouts. Take some time to get acclimated and read over our #welcome and #rules-faq [31-Aug-22 05:28 PM] Deleted User#0000 DiNS was telling me about his interest in supply chains in the Satisfactory video game. We have played a bunch of Deep Rock Galactic games together, on steam. So I told him about PrUn and he went and bought a subscription. {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [31-Aug-22 05:29 PM] complover116#0000 Actually, we have never played a mission of DRG together [31-Aug-22 05:29 PM] churavis#0000 Satisfactory is fun but it doesn't compare to the original Factorio [31-Aug-22 05:29 PM] complover116#0000 False memory [31-Aug-22 05:29 PM] complover116#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-Aug-22 05:29 PM] complover116#0000 Thank you! [31-Aug-22 06:19 PM] yang_mills#0000 [31-Aug-22 06:30 PM] Deleted User#0000 Funny, I seem to remember it. Anyway, we're both in the steam game group, International Brotherhood of Miners .. ha ha .. [31-Aug-22 06:31 PM] Deleted User#0000 We were talking about ideas for your expansion, from a smelting operation. If you want to bounce some ideas around in chat, then I am sure these fellows will have a couple of thoughts on it. [31-Aug-22 07:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I totally disagree! I loved Satisfactory. Was so much more fun to be immersed in that way with decent graphics. Factorio was great too, but Satisfactory was the best such game so far to me [31-Aug-22 07:31 PM] rune_242#0000 i think it's a good idea to change the prices in the welcome channel [31-Aug-22 07:33 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Also @complover116 feel free to charge market price for now for your AL. We want you to grow faster [31-Aug-22 07:34 PM] churavis#0000 Factorio is the original factory game with nothing else like it before, without it Satisfactory would never have existed. It's had far more time to be refined. [31-Aug-22 07:34 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Fair [31-Aug-22 07:38 PM] complover116#0000 Once I actually make enough to sell ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-Aug-22 07:46 PM] insensless72#0000 Changed, thank you for pointing that out {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [31-Aug-22 11:16 PM] balbar#0000 I put up 2 sell ads for 200 RAT/DW @10k at QJ-382g [31-Aug-22 11:42 PM] seraphx2#0000 Joined the server. [01-Sep-22 12:07 AM] exeler#0000 [01-Sep-22 12:09 AM] seraphx2#0000 o/ [01-Sep-22 12:32 AM] balbar#0000 [01-Sep-22 01:22 AM] allocater#0000 [01-Sep-22 01:23 AM] seraphx2#0000 do we have to join OBCM to stick around here? [01-Sep-22 01:23 AM] churavis#0000 You get to join OBCM [01-Sep-22 01:25 AM] allocater#0000 if you want to forgo on the dividend of a in-game join, you could, but why would you? ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Sep-22 01:25 AM] seraphx2#0000 because then i have to work harder? lol [01-Sep-22 01:26 AM] allocater#0000 haha, there are no obligations [01-Sep-22 01:27 AM] allocater#0000 check it out for a week, if you find something interesting you can make trades [01-Sep-22 07:24 AM] Deleted User#0000 [01-Sep-22 07:26 AM] Deleted User#0000 @seraphx2 hiya! what sort of things do you make? or do you need any materials? where are you located? [01-Sep-22 07:27 AM] Deleted User#0000 am always so curious about new members ๐Ÿคฃ [01-Sep-22 10:03 AM] Deleted User#0000 Can I use the spreadsheet template we have for corp producers for the other corp I trade with? Obviously with all the names and productions and everything removed, just the outline. Would save some time because I donโ€™t know how to really make/use sheets. [01-Sep-22 10:09 AM] churavis#0000 Other corp? Are you cheating on us? [01-Sep-22 10:12 AM] Deleted User#0000 Nah some friends [01-Sep-22 10:12 AM] Deleted User#0000 Wanna organize trade and stuff [01-Sep-22 10:14 AM] Deleted User#0000 I have a couple of bases near Moria, just help them out with RCO and PE since I canโ€™t bring it to Antares [01-Sep-22 10:17 AM] Deleted User#0000 Do you not want me to trade with them? [01-Sep-22 11:16 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [01-Sep-22 11:21 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [01-Sep-22 11:22 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome to the new members! [01-Sep-22 11:53 AM] Deleted User#0000 @churavis sooโ€ฆ? [01-Sep-22 11:55 AM] yjhasaday#0000 lol I think he was joking! [01-Sep-22 11:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 Real answer: you can always make your own personal copy of a spreadsheet and rename that copy and mess with it however you'd like [01-Sep-22 11:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 That production page is really just a list of names, products, and colored cells, there's not really any logic in there to copy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Sep-22 11:59 AM] churavis#0000 You're not allowed to be alone with, flirt, touch, compliment, talk, wink, or even look at any other corps below the neck line ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ [01-Sep-22 11:59 AM] churavis#0000 You come straight home after work! [01-Sep-22 11:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 Sorry lol :p [01-Sep-22 11:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 I really couldnโ€™t tell if you were being serious or not [01-Sep-22 12:00 PM] churavis#0000 Can't you hear the sarcasm in the tone of my voice? [01-Sep-22 12:01 PM] Deleted User#0000 I didnโ€™t use text to speech [01-Sep-22 12:03 PM] churavis#0000 You're supposed to just read my mind [01-Sep-22 12:03 PM] Deleted User#0000 damn ok Iโ€™ll do that next time [01-Sep-22 12:05 PM] Deleted User#0000 Why do we even have a discord then [01-Sep-22 12:07 PM] rune_242#0000 for me [01-Sep-22 12:07 PM] rune_242#0000 bet you can't read my mind [01-Sep-22 12:07 PM] churavis#0000 You're thinking that no one is going to be able to guess what you're thinking [01-Sep-22 12:08 PM] rune_242#0000 close [01-Sep-22 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can read Rune's mind... lemme just say: ๐Ÿคฎ ๐Ÿคฎ ๐Ÿคฎ [01-Sep-22 12:19 PM] rune_242#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ถ [01-Sep-22 12:27 PM] _bojidar#0000 any1 producing AEF? [01-Sep-22 12:43 PM] yjhasaday#0000 That's a tough one. I think we kind of only make it as needed. How much are you looking for? I have 12 NE to make some but I kind of need my PP2s on prefabs pretty bad right now ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Sep-22 12:43 PM] yang_mills#0000 [01-Sep-22 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 I have plenty of PP2 time [01-Sep-22 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 Also [01-Sep-22 12:45 PM] _bojidar#0000 i need some 14 or 28 or 42 and so on ..as much as possible..but anything will do [01-Sep-22 12:45 PM] rune_242#0000 Maybe a good idea to look for corp NE [01-Sep-22 12:46 PM] _bojidar#0000 i need to secure some income before expand in anything else [01-Sep-22 12:47 PM] _bojidar#0000 i will need some AEF up to 150-200 or something [01-Sep-22 12:47 PM] rune_242#0000 Some๐Ÿคฏ [01-Sep-22 12:48 PM] _bojidar#0000 well not at once ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Sep-22 12:48 PM] _bojidar#0000 as i said anything will do ๐Ÿ™‚ its hard to find indeed [01-Sep-22 12:48 PM] _bojidar#0000 the point is it to worth it to change any other production for it [01-Sep-22 12:52 PM] churavis#0000 AEF is expensive as NE is hard to source and takes a lot of PP2 time, meaning it would be a while before you get a return on your investment if then as repairs will be AEF as well [01-Sep-22 12:54 PM] _bojidar#0000 at what point or % should be repared buildings? [01-Sep-22 12:55 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Not sure what others do but I like to keep mine above 85% [01-Sep-22 01:07 PM] churavis#0000 The most effective times are as close to 30, 60, or 90 days as possible. After 90 days there is a much steeper drop off in efficiency. [01-Sep-22 04:28 PM] erklein#0000 Specifically at the at or above the low 77% which is generally around the 90 day point. Itโ€™s at that point that buildings with an even number of fabs change to needing another [01-Sep-22 04:29 PM] insensless72#0000 [01-Sep-22 07:21 PM] seraphx2#0000 hello at everyone who has waved. ๐Ÿ˜‚ [01-Sep-22 07:23 PM] churavis#0000 ๐ŸŒŠ [01-Sep-22 07:46 PM] jackinabox86#0000 @_bojidar what do you want to acquire with the AEF? Maybe someone else does it and can sell it to you and save the startup/repair costs [01-Sep-22 07:59 PM] Deleted User#0000 [02-Sep-22 07:21 AM] emperyan11#0000 @here Hey everyone, the last minute snipers are out and I've slipped a little in the polls... I could really use you vote if you haven't already and the Corp could really use that FTL Heavy. Please pop over to the forums and give me a click. Thanks in advance! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 1st big haiku contest Ripples in spacetime Created by dancing stars As they intertwine https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gVHmR-oW4Bp37rebP6IEQJo66FrzYJvoNiAzbJSR7hs/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ad67fd4ca0362e1346846fd7add0f802f255ed2.png [02-Sep-22 07:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now that dw is increasing in price and cof is decreasing in price, are they using too much dw to make cof? [02-Sep-22 08:06 AM] domicius#0000 Might just be less DW on the market [02-Sep-22 08:52 AM] churavis#0000 Might be someone nuked the DW market and it just hasn't been able to recover [02-Sep-22 09:15 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hey all, I have 1500 H landing at the CX in 24 hours to try to help bring down market prices. Of course I'm offering to you guys first though! Let me know if you want any - usual corp price of 40/u [02-Sep-22 09:22 AM] churavis#0000 ZDLR will take 400 and I will take 200, contracts sent [02-Sep-22 02:15 PM] allocater#0000 somebody just dumped 50k FF into Benton MM and I only intercepted 6k ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [02-Sep-22 02:18 PM] churavis#0000 At what price? [02-Sep-22 02:19 PM] allocater#0000 9.01 [02-Sep-22 02:20 PM] churavis#0000 Why would someone dump at that price, were they quitting the game? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [02-Sep-22 03:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 @emperyan11 Seapear, the youtube guy, is getting votes for his ship from his corp. I joined their Discord to read some stuff he put in notes for a video and saw them all chatting. Usually we're the only corp that pools votes like that! [02-Sep-22 04:16 PM] churavis#0000 How dare they cheat exactly how we cheat {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [02-Sep-22 04:47 PM] emperyan11#0000 Fair, but, and I'll admit I'm biased, his haiku ain't that great... [02-Sep-22 04:48 PM] emperyan11#0000 That's why I need everyone here to vote! [02-Sep-22 04:48 PM] churavis#0000 What makes you think that matters? [02-Sep-22 04:50 PM] emperyan11#0000 If I thought that was the only factor, I wouldn't have been hectoring everyone here, lol [02-Sep-22 04:53 PM] emperyan11#0000 Now get out there and vote for me! [02-Sep-22 04:54 PM] emperyan11#0000 ๐Ÿ˜† [02-Sep-22 05:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't really have any idea what Seapear's haiku is referencing. Is it a matthew mcconaughey reference? [02-Sep-22 05:03 PM] emperyan11#0000 I dunno... and it's partly Morse code [02-Sep-22 05:05 PM] churavis#0000 Maybe this meme? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1015381862073499688/unknown.png?ex=681498cc&is=6813474c&hm=8a35b371342e79e816b0f388c10787c715bd64d9a6e34dcad9beb75f707f523c& [02-Sep-22 05:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Or "Bubble" is an eve reference and he forgot which game he was in? [02-Sep-22 05:13 PM] yang_mills#0000 Send the interdiction nullifiers! [02-Sep-22 05:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_fI59isVE {Embed} Ministry of Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_fI59isVE RMT Records Presents: Stuck in the Bubble with You Even the richest goons can have a bad day. CREDITS: Ungaar: Lyrics, Vocals Dirty Gibson Hand: Audio/Video Production Nyllzen: Imperium Intro Markonius Porkbutte: MiniTru Intro This is a work of parody. EVE Online belongs to CCP hf. "Stuck In The Middle" belongs to Stealers' Wheel and their label. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HHgeec87sKc6iL9g-oRBa8YFTVjSyCc-XaJdYyJ8sN4/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/qy_fI59isVE/maxresdefault.jpg [02-Sep-22 08:44 PM] churavis#0000 Should ZDLR nuke the MCG market, set a virtual MM ceiling somewhere or wait until supply has run out? [02-Sep-22 09:46 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™d buy a 2 or 3 k just so I donโ€™t have to keep bothering people [02-Sep-22 09:49 PM] churavis#0000 ZDLR has 2,650 in his ANT warehouse because I totally predicted the MCG market drying up and not at all because his Heph base ran out of C, you may buy it all if you wish [03-Sep-22 07:18 AM] insensless72#0000 Want to split that 50/50 if you havent bought it already? [03-Sep-22 07:31 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I havenโ€™t bought any yet, so thatโ€™s great. Iโ€™ll send a contract for 1325 [03-Sep-22 07:56 AM] insensless72#0000 ~~What is the MCG price per?~~ [03-Sep-22 07:57 AM] churavis#0000 MCG is 15/u [03-Sep-22 09:30 AM] domicius#0000 You guys know that I chuck out masses of MCG on Phobos, right? [03-Sep-22 09:39 AM] insensless72#0000 I did not, but good to know [03-Sep-22 01:40 PM] emperyan11#0000 @here OK gang, last entreaty I promise! Voting closes soon and I only need 1 vote to tie and two to win. Doesn't have to be a Corp vote if you've got friends on the forum. Obviously, I want to win for personal reasons (I've won or placed in two other haiku contests already) but I really do want to put the FTL Heavy in service to OOG. So what say you? Spare a vote for a space poet? https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/1st-big-haiku-contest/4962/23 1st big haiku contest Ripples in spacetime Created by dancing stars As they intertwine https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gVHmR-oW4Bp37rebP6IEQJo66FrzYJvoNiAzbJSR7hs/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9ad67fd4ca0362e1346846fd7add0f802f255ed2.png [03-Sep-22 02:13 PM] allocater#0000 quick recruit more members to get more votes ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Sep-22 02:14 PM] emperyan11#0000 Right? [03-Sep-22 02:14 PM] emperyan11#0000 Also, I doubt I have ALL the Corp's votes ๐Ÿ™ƒ [03-Sep-22 03:59 PM] allocater#0000 TIED! [03-Sep-22 04:02 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Joined the server. [03-Sep-22 04:10 PM] allocater#0000 [03-Sep-22 04:12 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Hey everyone! Hope your weekend's nice! Started about a month ago and been growing quickly thanks to allocater ^^ Im on Harmonia if I can help with anything! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (5) [03-Sep-22 04:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! Glad to have you! [03-Sep-22 04:56 PM] yang_mills#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot (2) [03-Sep-22 04:57 PM] dersix#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot (2) [03-Sep-22 05:00 PM] insensless72#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot (2) [03-Sep-22 05:20 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot (2) [03-Sep-22 05:22 PM] insensless72#0000 OOG recruitment https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-chosen-one-gif-24255242 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-chosen-one-gif-24255242 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/W6UAXl4zCvdOl5Zo0fOuUgIF6193nWr1ENEJSVhYmyc/https/media.tenor.com/MxND3KFWBzoAAAAD/toy-story-chosen-one.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Sep-22 06:25 PM] emperyan11#0000 I just pulled ahead! [03-Sep-22 07:06 PM] v_barbosa#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot [03-Sep-22 08:05 PM] churavis#0000 That is a very apt metaphor in more ways than we might want it to be [03-Sep-22 09:59 PM] churavis#0000 Someone finished off the MCG market, sell your MCG now for near MM prices. I officially make a temporary exception if anyone wants to sell MCG bought from me or DLR: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1015818419024711760/unknown.png?ex=6814dde0&is=68138c60&hm=777ff6bef0d158260920737941f875673129a8043cb686d8f1dd5d6f20397b0f& [03-Sep-22 11:44 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [04-Sep-22 05:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 ~~I want to buy 500t mcg and save it for later use. I have a gap in expansion now.~~ [04-Sep-22 05:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1015932286388150322/unknown.png?ex=68149f2c&is=68134dac&hm=bf59778cff7edf9a484343e1045ecef539e6fed459604e0b949eefd6198a4663& [04-Sep-22 05:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 ~~I'm glad I'm almost full of the building materials I need.~~ [04-Sep-22 05:34 AM] domicius#0000 Post up on Phobos [04-Sep-22 05:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 How much do you have and what is the unit price? [04-Sep-22 05:35 AM] domicius#0000 Although I'll be a few days making another 2k [04-Sep-22 05:35 AM] domicius#0000 Well, I make about 1k a day, goes for 15pu [04-Sep-22 05:35 AM] domicius#0000 You need 2k for 500t {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Sep-22 05:35 AM] domicius#0000 (about) [04-Sep-22 05:36 AM] domicius#0000 I have 700 right now. [04-Sep-22 05:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 My boat is in hep, you can sell it to me for 700 now. . Then you can sell me 2k. [04-Sep-22 05:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 ads up [04-Sep-22 09:55 AM] churavis#0000 I don't actually care about the prize but isn't this Haiku amazing: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1015998639740571689/unknown.png?ex=6814dcf8&is=68138b78&hm=2829b1a8d475997444b5b290d19091da449d9de033d6f85634943f90a2b86d00& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (7) [04-Sep-22 09:58 AM] allocater#0000 'n could be removed, no? [04-Sep-22 10:01 AM] churavis#0000 It's needed to connect the first two lines [04-Sep-22 10:02 AM] churavis#0000 It's also needed to maintain the rhythm of the poem as well [04-Sep-22 10:03 AM] allocater#0000 I don't know enough about poems to dispute it ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Sep-22 10:04 AM] churavis#0000 Just try to work the word "iambic pentameter" into the conversation and everyone will just assume that you do [04-Sep-22 10:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's a pity that I can't even participate in this kind of competition. Cross-language rhyme is a very difficult thing.๐Ÿ˜… [04-Sep-22 10:07 AM] churavis#0000 Most haiku's don't rhyme, I'm just showing off [04-Sep-22 10:07 AM] churavis#0000 Counting syllables is easy in any language so I assume that's why they chose haikus instead of other poetic forms [04-Sep-22 11:29 AM] emperyan11#0000 In other haiku news, I won the FTL Heavy!! Thank you so much to everyone who voted! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (3) ๐Ÿฅณ (4) ๐Ÿค‘ [04-Sep-22 11:30 AM] emperyan11#0000 Now we just need to decide what kinda route we want to put it on! [04-Sep-22 11:32 AM] domicius#0000 Fly it around - theres always stuff to ship [04-Sep-22 11:33 AM] allocater#0000 check crops piles on demeter, maybe it's enough to justify a route [04-Sep-22 12:57 PM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, I've never been to Demeter [04-Sep-22 01:00 PM] emperyan11#0000 Thinking I'm christen her the 'Moby Deck' [04-Sep-22 01:00 PM] emperyan11#0000 To go along with the 'Orsen Whales' [04-Sep-22 02:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 400-600t of stuff to ship from Demeter to Nike (or near Nike) if you are looking for routes. [04-Sep-22 04:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Reactions} fast_parrot [04-Sep-22 06:25 PM] emperyan11#0000 Give me about a week (going on vacation here ) but I'll take it all for you. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Sep-22 05:42 PM] churavis#0000 What new planet do we want to push for naming? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1016478423511740497/unknown.png?ex=6814a18d&is=6813500d&hm=2f76831ab1b7c3945426fb367582d04bd6cfaa7ce7a4f75e30f5a0ddda508e17& [05-Sep-22 05:57 PM] Deleted User#0000 Something simple? An unnamed planet a few of us already have a base on or are planning to have a base on? [05-Sep-22 05:59 PM] Deleted User#0000 YK? [05-Sep-22 06:01 PM] Deleted User#0000 IIRC, there was a conversation a few weeks ago on naming YK. [05-Sep-22 06:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 YK is probably better, but I am the governor of the poorly named "QJ-650c" [05-Sep-22 06:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's pretty low population though [06-Sep-22 02:07 AM] allocater#0000 QJ-650c -> Midas (because of the Gold) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [06-Sep-22 06:48 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I would assume we want it to remain confusing like our other planet names, so we should probably name it Demidas {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [06-Sep-22 06:48 AM] balbar#0000 Defeet ๐Ÿ˜Ž [07-Sep-22 01:44 AM] seraphx2#0000 oh noes. i got a ship stuck in Moria with no FF and starter NCC :Aqua_cry: [07-Sep-22 01:44 AM] seraphx2#0000 any tips on how to get fueled? lol [07-Sep-22 02:03 AM] allocater#0000 you can convert currency on the currency market, usually 10% loss, or send 2 currency swap contracts to me (1:1) [07-Sep-22 03:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's not easy to make a profit to ship goods from hortus to ant these days. [07-Sep-22 03:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 I guess it may be that the player's transportation ability has improved after the version update. [07-Sep-22 04:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that as time goes by, it will be more and more difficult for new players to get the first pot of gold by cx. [07-Sep-22 09:56 PM] erklein#0000 So I've looked into how you calculate population needs, but how do you calculate the happiness based off the fulfilled needs? Is it using the same numbers but applied as a ratio for each population group? [07-Sep-22 10:18 PM] churavis#0000 https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ Population Infrastructure - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [07-Sep-22 10:19 PM] churavis#0000 I plan on creating a complicated spreadsheet to calculate the optimal upkeep [08-Sep-22 01:39 AM] allocater#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qU3WE2vUlIlADhmnQzh7vsxhfqQG-1pf4miNzjRMC0k/edit#gid=931985839 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qU3WE2vUlIlADhmnQzh7vsxhfqQG-1pf4miNzjRMC0k/edit Population Calculator (v2.2) Model Settings Planet Name,Reports to Model,Model Type,Fixed at Last Point Gibson,15,Pioneer Model,Best Fit Settler Model,Best Fit Put Input Reports First?,Prev Reports Used,Technician Model,Best Fit 20,Engineer Model,Best Fit Scientist Model,Best Fit Base Model,Best Fit Input Reports,Model Rep... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/876gOb-wzQnyqxo8mnsh7rpKASTIZnuQ9OsVFIOXXcE/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/tJu0T-dE_ayvNRQHz3nDQZhVokqoo9Lr4AExe33CnzNyBl7wqHiiJjt-byaTXFbnnJDas361z1Lg-g%3Dw1200-h630-p [08-Sep-22 01:40 AM] allocater#0000 I modified sheet 2, so that I can enter upkeep percentages until I get the desired happiness value: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1017323631166111834/unknown.png?ex=681511b6&is=6813c036&hm=fc205a9cdd5659bfa1b2b570d06d81f3569bf39be062eeb21005c3a43d99e8b6& [08-Sep-22 02:32 AM] seraphx2#0000 OBCM Invite accepted. Thanks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [08-Sep-22 10:52 AM] zipatsu#0000 Joined the server. [08-Sep-22 10:52 AM] allocater#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 10:55 AM] zipatsu#0000 Thanks for the Discord invite! โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 10:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Zipatsu! {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 10:58 AM] Deleted User#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 10:59 AM] Deleted User#0000 Hey there.. where do you have your base set up? [08-Sep-22 10:59 AM] balbar#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 11:01 AM] zipatsu#0000 My base is on ZV-896b - Harmonia at the moment [08-Sep-22 11:17 AM] allocater#0000 You might be interested into 2 of our current expansion programs, Nascent to convert crops to Carbon and Yk-649b to turn crops into RAT/etc. [08-Sep-22 11:22 AM] _bojidar#0000 i.m up for C as we discussed earlier, but is there enough crops for it, or it is needed to produce crops as well? [08-Sep-22 11:22 AM] allocater#0000 yeah crops are needed as well, with bases on harmonia and demeter [08-Sep-22 11:23 AM] _bojidar#0000 btw is there any BHP available for repairs? i have a lot to repair now [08-Sep-22 11:25 AM] allocater#0000 only 20 left [08-Sep-22 11:25 AM] allocater#0000 maybe more on deimos [08-Sep-22 11:34 AM] _bojidar#0000 where? ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Sep-22 11:36 AM] allocater#0000 heph [08-Sep-22 11:36 AM] allocater#0000 1700/u [08-Sep-22 11:43 AM] zipatsu#0000 With the high spike of water cost on the ANT CX I was looking at maybe making an H2O RIG base on FK-794b - Boucher as my second base once I've saved up enough to do so. Would that be of any use to you over there or would that be too far away? (It'll be a few weeks to a month maybe before I've saved up enough to start it up so the idea's not set in stone ^^ ) [08-Sep-22 11:45 AM] _bojidar#0000 ad on [08-Sep-22 11:51 AM] allocater#0000 that's quite far, we have etherwind closer, also Ice Station Alpha is being settled soon [08-Sep-22 11:57 AM] balbar#0000 I put my base on there already {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [08-Sep-22 01:08 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 01:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 Etherwind it is then ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Sep-22 02:48 PM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [08-Sep-22 02:48 PM] allocater#0000 [08-Sep-22 03:02 PM] zipatsu#0000 [08-Sep-22 03:53 PM] dersix#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 03:54 PM] Deleted User#0000 [08-Sep-22 03:54 PM] dersix#0000 the complicated part about POPI is that the results of changes in supply is not fully applied [08-Sep-22 03:55 PM] dersix#0000 the happiness depends also on the value of the 4 reports before (in a weighted manner) [08-Sep-22 03:55 PM] dersix#0000 only programs have an instant and full effect all the time [08-Sep-22 03:59 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Where can you find the cost of programs? [08-Sep-22 04:00 PM] dersix#0000 on the rules page [08-Sep-22 04:00 PM] dersix#0000 LR LS-300c [08-Sep-22 04:00 PM] dersix#0000 for example for griff [08-Sep-22 04:01 PM] dersix#0000 the cost of the program is different from planet to planet [08-Sep-22 04:01 PM] dersix#0000 I think it's depending on the amount of pop [08-Sep-22 04:02 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I don't see a cost on that page, just a list of the current, upcoming, and past programs [08-Sep-22 04:02 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I'm trying to make sure the joker on Heph gets me some engineers, so was trying to figure out the best way to help him [08-Sep-22 04:02 PM] jackinabox86#0000 he's going to run an engineer program once, but I was trying to figure out if I should pay for another one or figure out some other upkeep to donate [08-Sep-22 04:03 PM] dersix#0000 you only see the cost as gov [08-Sep-22 04:03 PM] jackinabox86#0000 is it in currency or goods? [08-Sep-22 04:03 PM] dersix#0000 currency [08-Sep-22 04:04 PM] dersix#0000 I can't check right now as I've a program queued [08-Sep-22 04:04 PM] jackinabox86#0000 no worries; helpful answer [08-Sep-22 04:04 PM] dersix#0000 but it might be that the immigration ones are fixed cost [08-Sep-22 04:06 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I looked at DeimosBob's accounting spreadsheet and he shows currency. His last program was 100k. That's not that big a deal [08-Sep-22 04:06 PM] jackinabox86#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BBQondhXhq2YzHCEDzlWVcZX3AAZ5HyE9J4lJcDAxx0/edit#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BBQondhXhq2YzHCEDzlWVcZX3AAZ5HyE9J4lJcDAxx0/edit Deimos Accounting General Accounting Total Deimos, Treasury Prior: , ยฃ 1,297,702 ,MAT,Reason,Unit,Rate,Total 02/01, ยฃ 1,920 , ยฃ 13,440 , ยฃ 1,311,142 ,03/01,TRU,SST2,12, ยฃ 175.00 , ยฃ (2,100.00), ยฃ (2,100.00) 09/01, ยฃ 13,890 , ยฃ 97,230 , ยฃ 1,408,372 ,03/01,BTA,SST2,7, ยฃ 600.00 , ยฃ (4,200.00), ยฃ (6,300.00),FIOC Rat... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Yq0THiAFkAC3XE3wJwx920T-ajlBzevib0mE4_2vCZU/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/lNNszJwMGwThNiKkrXn-rTdShU_oG8UDH4bBvTrtbWH2oFH63CiqrT0BMXhhvPV03X7zaAWoTpyrTg%3Dw1200-h630-p [08-Sep-22 04:26 PM] dersix#0000 on griff festivity II was 26k and III around 57k [08-Sep-22 04:27 PM] dersix#0000 compared to some POPI resources, programs a super strong and affordable [08-Sep-22 04:44 PM] insensless72#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [08-Sep-22 04:47 PM] yjhasaday#0000 {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [09-Sep-22 11:28 AM] yang_mills#0000 [09-Sep-22 04:12 PM] insensless72#0000 [09-Sep-22 04:13 PM] insensless72#0000 Welcome @Deleted User! Mind sharing with us where you are and what your specialty is so I can get your roles set up? [10-Sep-22 05:45 AM] rune_242#0000 [11-Sep-22 10:20 AM] _bojidar#0000 any1 even produceTSH? [11-Sep-22 10:29 AM] insensless72#0000 Montanox has been removed since 2 days have gone by with no communication as a recruit [11-Sep-22 10:29 AM] insensless72#0000 I potentially could, how many are you looking for? [11-Sep-22 10:33 AM] _bojidar#0000 i try to calculate what would be needed if i start a base on a planet where i need 1xTSH for every building..how much would it costs? as if its kinda ok probably some 15-20 probably for a while [11-Sep-22 10:35 AM] insensless72#0000 I would redo your math, its usually 1per unit of area. For example on Nike you need 10 SEA to build 1 HB1 since it takes up 10 units [11-Sep-22 10:35 AM] _bojidar#0000 no..on this planet is 1 per building [11-Sep-22 10:35 AM] insensless72#0000 interesting [11-Sep-22 10:36 AM] _bojidar#0000 high temperature planet [11-Sep-22 10:36 AM] insensless72#0000 I have 20 THP on Heph, when I get them to Nike I can begin TSH, ill have enough to make 10 TSH [11-Sep-22 10:37 AM] _bojidar#0000 ok,,nice for a start..but how much would it cost..it seems like hightech items [11-Sep-22 10:37 AM] insensless72#0000 Its never been requested, 1 sec let me do some maths [11-Sep-22 10:37 AM] _bojidar#0000 ok ty [11-Sep-22 10:39 AM] insensless72#0000 it would be around 5k each [11-Sep-22 10:39 AM] _bojidar#0000 its cool then. [11-Sep-22 10:41 AM] _bojidar#0000 i.ll start collecting them till i have enough. may you start with these 10 now and later(not urgent if have more important) make 20 more? [11-Sep-22 10:41 AM] insensless72#0000 You got it ๐Ÿ‘ \ [11-Sep-22 11:05 AM] _bojidar#0000 btw how long you think it will take for these 30? [11-Sep-22 11:05 AM] _bojidar#0000 or first 10 at least [11-Sep-22 11:06 AM] insensless72#0000 tbh a while. I have a lot of shifting to do of goods. lets say 5 days to a week [11-Sep-22 11:06 AM] _bojidar#0000 ok ty [11-Sep-22 11:13 AM] _bojidar#0000 you have some LST in stock? [11-Sep-22 11:13 AM] churavis#0000 ZDLR has 959 in stock on Nike and more on the way, 35/u [11-Sep-22 11:15 AM] _bojidar#0000 ok.i need 700 then [11-Sep-22 11:16 AM] _bojidar#0000 I need some FF as well..some 400 if possible [11-Sep-22 11:16 AM] churavis#0000 Send a contract for the LST [11-Sep-22 11:17 AM] churavis#0000 Put up the ad for the FF and post it on the Nike Fuel-ops channel [11-Sep-22 11:18 AM] _bojidar#0000 let me see how much i can hold in WH but..may be 700 is bit much [11-Sep-22 11:18 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I'm online now, so if you post for the FF you need now, I can fill. Corp rate is 8/u for both SF and FF [11-Sep-22 11:18 AM] churavis#0000 I'll send you some sell contracts and then I can leave them provisioned for whenever you want to pick them up [11-Sep-22 11:18 AM] _bojidar#0000 ok will now [11-Sep-22 11:20 AM] _bojidar#0000 ad on {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [11-Sep-22 11:20 AM] _bojidar#0000 ty {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Sep-22 11:23 AM] yjhasaday#0000 By the way, if you ever want to join us in fuel ops let me know! I know you make it out in Benton area and thats pretty far so no pressure - but the invite is always there! [11-Sep-22 11:24 AM] _bojidar#0000 yea ..i just trying to sort H and HE3 before i can expand a bit more..as i dont produce too much yet [11-Sep-22 11:25 AM] _bojidar#0000 ty. i cant hold more then 360 on wh atm..so yea..will pick up rest in about 2 days [11-Sep-22 11:26 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I wouldnโ€™t invest more in fuel ATM. We have so much it is ridiculous [11-Sep-22 11:26 AM] _bojidar#0000 yea..not too much into it..already looking to expand on else [11-Sep-22 11:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 And donโ€™t forget you have to spend one TSH per repair as well. So thatโ€™s one more per building every 90 ish days [11-Sep-22 11:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 If you need GAL, I have loads [11-Sep-22 11:28 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I recently built a HE3 base on Avalon so hopefully I'll start bringing surplus HE3 back to Nike soon. Then I can sell to either of you from there [11-Sep-22 11:28 AM] _bojidar#0000 they are not really in production..or its ok..but no1 produce it [11-Sep-22 11:29 AM] _bojidar#0000 yea..i have both H and HE3 planets as well [11-Sep-22 11:30 AM] _bojidar#0000 i thought when i started the fuel is something nice to start with..but turns out its not much worth it after all ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Sep-22 11:30 AM] _bojidar#0000 i make much higher profit from selling H and HE3 then fuel it self ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Sep-22 11:31 AM] _bojidar#0000 i thought about be usefull for the corp with making C but then agai it seems i need to suply H2O and crops as well..so it goes like 3 planets needed ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Sep-22 11:34 AM] _bojidar#0000 beside Etherwind around here ..is there any other good planet for H2O? [11-Sep-22 11:35 AM] jackinabox86#0000 You can do c solo on Harmonia and then just expand to more planets later [11-Sep-22 11:36 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™d do something cheap like that before something expensive that needs TSH [11-Sep-22 11:36 AM] jackinabox86#0000 But whatever you want to do is cool. We can probably make the TSH when needed [11-Sep-22 11:36 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yeah, fuel prices have come down quite a bit so its not nearly as profitable as it was - especially if you're in Benton where the inputs are much more accessible. Here in Antares the price soared to over 16/u for quite a while, I was making around 200 per hour profit on any fuel I could bring to market! But I think the efforts of @jackinabox86 and I were able to stabilize it so now its meh lol [11-Sep-22 02:06 PM] seraphx2#0000 is there a way to know my recruitable limit per week? [11-Sep-22 02:09 PM] allocater#0000 when constructing it's the number in the brackets: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1018599178294800505/unknown.png?ex=68151868&is=6813c6e8&hm=ba2ee6eb15e9a9ba34d9ad12df19ff2f12ff64741d7990edad20c6976992cbb1& [11-Sep-22 02:13 PM] seraphx2#0000 oh [11-Sep-22 02:13 PM] seraphx2#0000 oh. the number is huge...lol i'll be fine [11-Sep-22 05:18 PM] jackinabox86#0000 You can also see on your base screen how many of that number you have used [11-Sep-22 05:18 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Other planets wonโ€™t have the same reserve pool [11-Sep-22 05:18 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I used up my reserve pool on Heph this week with more BMP for PE [11-Sep-22 05:19 PM] jackinabox86#0000 And itโ€™s nice to know what you have left when the supply is limited [13-Sep-22 09:56 AM] domicius#0000 I have 200 C on Harmonia. If nobody wants it I'll take to CX [14-Sep-22 04:32 AM] _bojidar#0000 If there is no free spots left on a planet to build a base..is there are way to do it at some point or not? [14-Sep-22 04:34 AM] allocater#0000 only new players can start on the planet. Anyone else has to wait for a free spot [14-Sep-22 09:46 AM] jackinabox86#0000 As people leave the game, the number of ghost plots decreases. If it ever gets below zero, there will be an open plot you can snag. It's relatively rare and they get snapped up very quickly, so you want to have a base kit prepositioned and make sure you check frequently. [14-Sep-22 12:15 PM] dersix#0000 briefly after the steam rush I've done daily statistics on the evolution of the ghost plots on Phobos in order to not miss my spot ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Sep-22 09:44 AM] yjhasaday#0000 If you can't get on Phobos there are plenty of plots available on Nike! Corp HQ efficiency bonus is nice plus there are so many corp Prefab Plants making bfabs that its the easiest expansion you will ever have lol. [15-Sep-22 10:11 AM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1019988860769419264/Screenshot_20220915-0910412.png?ex=6814e0a6&is=68138f26&hm=6921b0fc882b7c6da992fed7d9becec8ef69a3b88da8a61926501f542897d575& [15-Sep-22 11:11 AM] emperyan11#0000 Who's selling LST these days? [15-Sep-22 11:14 AM] churavis#0000 Put up an ad on Nike for 35/u and someone will fill it [15-Sep-22 11:14 AM] emperyan11#0000 Perfect! [15-Sep-22 11:17 AM] emperyan11#0000 I posted a big ad... don't worry, I'm sending the FTL Heavy to pick it up [15-Sep-22 11:51 AM] domicius#0000 My dudes, just a note that work is even crazier than usual, so send a DM if you need anything. I'm putting FOD, REA and IDC into Phobos, and otherwise selling stuff. If anyone wants any shipping just let me know. [15-Sep-22 04:09 PM] insensless72#0000 @zipatsu Welcome officially in game. As a new member we like to offer a 200k investment sum. This is not a loan and does not need to be paid back. All you need to do is sell me 1 DW on the planet of your choice for 200k [15-Sep-22 04:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Thanks for the welcome! That'd be greatly appreciated as it would let me get my second base off the ground pretty much right away, wow {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [16-Sep-22 12:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 Do CX sales to market makers show up in the CXPC charts? [16-Sep-22 12:02 PM] allocater#0000 yes [16-Sep-22 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 ahh okay. Not too many sales of CBLs. Although I see that someone sold $16 million worth of EDC a few weeks ago {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [16-Sep-22 02:29 PM] Deleted User#0000 I enjoyed the sheer terror of paying back my 200K loan within 20 days. Was a lot more fun than watching the AIC counter tick up another million every couple weeks. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [16-Sep-22 03:55 PM] churavis#0000 Back in my day we walked to the CX, uphill both ways, barefoot, in the snow, every day, all year round, and we were grateful for it [16-Sep-22 04:59 PM] domicius#0000 Hell, we said "can we go again please?" [17-Sep-22 03:44 AM] _bojidar#0000 what is defference between H2O and H2O mineral? [17-Sep-22 03:45 AM] allocater#0000 H2O liquid is extracted with RIG H2O mineral is extracted with EXT there is also H2O gas that is extracted with COL [17-Sep-22 03:48 AM] _bojidar#0000 i see. ty [17-Sep-22 06:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Extraction via RIGs is quite a bit more efficient than the alternatives [18-Sep-22 04:59 AM] zipatsu#0000 Won second place in the 17th Haiku contest with this one, always knew watching Harry Potter would pay off one day ๐Ÿช„ ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1020997366012190840/unknown.png?ex=68149765&is=681345e5&hm=462afaf7fa47a4b79cc9f817dd669da45154bb47cccc3d24d09e603be9c956e5& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (4) ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [18-Sep-22 05:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 My God, two champions are ours!๐Ÿ‘ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [19-Sep-22 06:53 PM] emperyan11#0000 Nice job! [20-Sep-22 07:40 AM] zipatsu#0000 My ship will arrive on Etherwind around this time tomorrow, I should have all the materials on me to start my second base there right away but since this will be my first base expansion I was wondering if there's anything special I need to do for it beyond having the mats and hitting Start Base? [20-Sep-22 07:43 AM] balbar#0000 don't forget raw materials and consumables? [20-Sep-22 07:45 AM] balbar#0000 which you should keep on your ship until you set up the base. No need for them to eat until you are ready to produce..not sure how much of an influence that really has though [20-Sep-22 07:45 AM] zipatsu#0000 I should have enough for 15~20 days or so if I prepared correctly {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1021764044165754970/unknown.png?ex=6814be6b&is=68136ceb&hm=826824e284e6413b2156958147574edec5c2f80a5cffc3e2c6c04a23f7173134& [20-Sep-22 07:46 AM] balbar#0000 I'd say you're good then ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Sep-22 07:49 AM] zipatsu#0000 Awesome, can't wait to get it all set up and going ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Sep-22 07:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 @zipatsuWhich planet are you planning to colonize? [20-Sep-22 07:51 AM] zipatsu#0000 Etherwind for pure H2O [20-Sep-22 07:56 AM] zipatsu#0000 If all goes well I'm hoping to get around 1000 of it per day at the start [20-Sep-22 08:18 AM] yjhasaday#0000 As long as Etherwind is a MCG planet? My first expansion was to Nike where SEA is required to build and I didn't bring any lol ๐Ÿ˜… but as long as the planet is rocky and temp/pressure/gravity are good then you don't need any additional materials to build [20-Sep-22 08:20 AM] balbar#0000 I think that was the main pro point for Etherwind instead of ice station alpha. No HSE and INS required [20-Sep-22 08:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 Etherwind, you don't have to think about population and infrastructure. [20-Sep-22 08:21 AM] balbar#0000 well, if you only go for H2O, no issues with that on ISA either, CoGC is pretty cheap to as there are onbly a few people [20-Sep-22 08:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 Ins is very cheap now [20-Sep-22 08:23 AM] zipatsu#0000 I put all my faith in the spreadsheet being right on it so I think / hope it should be good, that'd be a pretty shocking realization to run into for sure ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Sep-22 08:23 AM] balbar#0000 yeah, that and the closer proximity is why I went with ISA [21-Sep-22 04:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 the price of C has dropped below 400. I think our development in demeter and nascent seems to be very successful.๐Ÿ˜‹ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [21-Sep-22 10:03 AM] allocater#0000 but now the price for crops is >150 ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Sep-22 10:04 AM] allocater#0000 worth it to beat Benten at C! [22-Sep-22 02:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1022414392140247050/unknown.png?ex=681521da&is=6813d05a&hm=c75b0ffee622029baa5b6f927850461761317a52a371625a443abe70a0d1e409& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [22-Sep-22 02:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 Hortus specialty, bumper harvest๐Ÿ˜† [22-Sep-22 02:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 However, it seems appropriate for me to sell it in benten. I sold too much in Antares before. [22-Sep-22 03:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 If any of you want it, I can sell it to you at Nike at my purchase price of @65. [24-Sep-22 05:33 PM] churavis#0000 @everyone This guys is trying to corner the market on MCG, can we get some more in here to nuke the market just to spite him? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1023361606425514017/unknown.png?ex=68149f84&is=68134e04&hm=c78dce7d41fc793e53b85206a6f43cf81ecea15040530d600872fc58bd65b448& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Sep-22 07:57 PM] Deleted User#0000 I am on board with that plan. Gotta keep those basic goods available and affordable. I have 4 BMP on Nike making MCG. I could use some more LST pretty quickly, and then some SIO which is rather scarce on the CX at the moment. [24-Sep-22 08:02 PM] churavis#0000 I have on Nike both [25-Sep-22 08:41 AM] Deleted User#0000 1426 MCG arriving at CX in 4+ hours {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [25-Sep-22 09:54 AM] megasaberexe#0000 I'm rooting for you guys! [25-Sep-22 03:20 PM] _bojidar#0000 i.ve heard about a reset of game? what is it about? [25-Sep-22 03:20 PM] _bojidar#0000 @here any1 of old players can tell more [25-Sep-22 05:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 It happened a couple years ago and itโ€™ll happen again in a couple years. Not anytime soon. Just when do the formal release of the game [26-Sep-22 09:33 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone make or sell VG? [26-Sep-22 09:40 AM] rune_242#0000 I could if I had TA [26-Sep-22 03:07 PM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Dear OOG members. I will soon stop playing the game. My PRO subscription runs out in 3 days, and my gov term on Phobos ends in 10 days. I will stop after that. I fill like I start losing interest for the game and need a pause. I won't COLIQ, I won't dismantle my bases and I won't liquidate my stocks, so a can return at a later point. I will just leave my production lines in disrepair and my workers go on strike. It's not a big deal. I will also leave OOG in game. There is no point in me receiving the dividends. I really enjoyed being part of OOG and I believe that our corp has achieved a lot. I hope it will continue to prosper. I might return to PrUn at some later point, in particular if the devs decide to bring us a serious expansion. Have fun, and perhaps see you later. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (2) ๐Ÿ–– (3) [26-Sep-22 03:08 PM] rune_242#0000 Noooo Bary Who will run the HWP now๐Ÿ˜ญ [26-Sep-22 03:09 PM] rune_242#0000 I hope you return๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ [26-Sep-22 03:10 PM] yang_mills#0000 I have 102 LHP on Deimos and 18 LHP on Heph. @Shipwright Please request my LHP. @insensless72 @allocater {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [26-Sep-22 03:11 PM] _bojidar#0000 sorry to hear that.Still i understand there is always a point to be bored. Hope to return ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Sep-22 03:11 PM] _bojidar#0000 ad up then [26-Sep-22 03:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Be sure to stick around on discord! we'll miss you! [26-Sep-22 03:17 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Appreciate the help and good luck! [26-Sep-22 03:23 PM] yjhasaday#0000 All the best! Was great trading with you and expanding OOG together, hope to see you again some time [26-Sep-22 06:17 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wish you the best bro, thanks for helping us grow the corps. [27-Sep-22 02:46 AM] rune_242#0000 I thought you meant SC๐Ÿ˜… [27-Sep-22 02:47 AM] rune_242#0000 I think you only missing material is F [27-Sep-22 02:48 AM] rune_242#0000 all the rest we make in corp [27-Sep-22 07:23 AM] Deleted User#0000 @yang_mills Really nice being able to trade with you. Best of luck with your next endeavors. [27-Sep-22 09:36 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone I have ~~3k~~ 2000 H to sell on QJ-382g, at 30 AIC/u. You will have to bring your own ship. [27-Sep-22 09:39 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I'll send a contract for 500. All i can fit in a warehouse {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Sep-22 10:11 AM] balbar#0000 I'll also take 500. ship should arrive tomorrow. Do you need anything? DW or RAT? my ship is at ANT right now [27-Sep-22 10:51 AM] yang_mills#0000 The game does not let me to fulfil your contract. Consider renting warehouse space on QJ-382g. [27-Sep-22 10:53 AM] churavis#0000 Sell contracts are necessary if the recipient does not have base or warehouse storage on planet [27-Sep-22 12:02 PM] balbar#0000 I rented some space. [27-Sep-22 12:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 I was thinking of running a long job to free up some storage. The output of this job is 900t. What happens if it can't fit, does it become a contract like a CX order? http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-09-27_12-25-13.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-09-27_12-25-13.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Rn8_59azf-fR5EcRd_6T8uNBkvMGkqg46asWY5uu4Gs/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-09-27_12-25-13.png [27-Sep-22 12:27 PM] churavis#0000 If a production order can't fit in your storage then it will stop production until space frees up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [27-Sep-22 12:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 So it'll hover at 100% complete [27-Sep-22 12:27 PM] churavis#0000 Yup {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Sep-22 01:37 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I have lots of base storage space on QJ - let me know how much is left and I'll buy the rest. I sell it for the same price on planet so if anyone else wants it they can just buy from me ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [27-Sep-22 04:10 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone OOG members, it is with a heavy heart that I announce my retirement from Prosperous Universe. Note that this was not an easy decision for me to make. Alas, real life reigns supreme. Over these last 2 years, you guys have made this game, and building this corp, one of the most fun experiences I have had gaming in a very long time and for that I thank you. I will hand over the rights to the Discord to @allocater and leave OOG in all of your very capable hands to grow and manage as you see fit. There are several tasks that need to be completed before I leave, but I will list those in a different channel. I thank you all for the fun times and wish you safe travels wherever life may lead you. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข (8) ๐Ÿ˜ญ (6) ๐Ÿ˜ฅ (6) ๐Ÿ–– (8) [27-Sep-22 04:18 PM] _bojidar#0000 all are leaving the game same time..lol..sad [27-Sep-22 04:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Aww we'll miss you too! [28-Sep-22 08:40 AM] Deleted User#0000 Sad to hear it. I enjoyed chatting with you, bud [28-Sep-22 09:29 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Been great playing with you! All the best! Thanks for all the help learning governor duties [28-Sep-22 03:35 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, just wanted to give you a heads up - I'm catching a flight tomorrow morning and will be away for a week. I don't think I'll have much access to PrUn so there's a good chance I won't be responsive lol. If you have any fuel needs @jackinabox86 can help out, he has lots on Phobos and at the CX but is also in the process of stocking some on Deimos. Happy trading! [28-Sep-22 03:37 PM] churavis#0000 I'm going to send you some contracts really quick {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [28-Sep-22 03:39 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I've got all the SF in the world, but given the HE3 shortage, I have not been producing FF for a while, so the stocks on that are very low [28-Sep-22 03:50 PM] churavis#0000 Who is advocating for chemistry on Nike? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1024785104549199883/Screenshot_20220928-1444392.png?ex=68148740&is=681335c0&hm=ab1b065ad1f2468abf2bce5f31ec2ff03925cef72318cb8a7e7f0f53a8bdaab0& [28-Sep-22 03:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Not me, I usually vote for Food processing on Nike ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Sep-22 07:55 PM] yuen8241#0000 @yjhasadayI sent a contract for FF in nike, and I hope I can catch it.๐Ÿ˜† [28-Sep-22 07:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1024847349463404586/unknown.png?ex=6814c138&is=68136fb8&hm=f973edd6ddd1a8e22afce4471a7c17c3af663b10df374badaa211bb90518247a& [28-Sep-22 10:01 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I got it but I only have 3K FF - what do you need 5000 FF for? That's a lot! [28-Sep-22 10:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 I want to save it. I've been running business directly in cx. [28-Sep-22 10:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 And I'll save FF in demeter or something in case someone gets trapped. [28-Sep-22 10:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have a boat that runs back and forth from benten, ANT and HRT every day. Now there is another LBC to transport water. [28-Sep-22 10:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 I usually buy FF in HRT and SF in benten. [30-Sep-22 11:58 AM] insensless72#0000 @OOG Shareholder Starting today I will begin dividing the money I have remaining amongst you. It should be around 500k per player. If something happens and I miss you make sure to let me know. On Monday of next week I will begin my yard sales on Deimos, Nike, Harmonia and Heph [30-Sep-22 12:00 PM] seraphx2#0000 oof. talk about new member investment. ๐Ÿ˜† [30-Sep-22 12:01 PM] churavis#0000 Priority should be given to those taking over your parts of the ship building supply chain for relevant mats [30-Sep-22 12:03 PM] insensless72#0000 I think Ill be just shy of 5mil after granting everyone 500k, this can be used to supplement replacements or go to the bank. Whatever is deemed most relevant [30-Sep-22 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks Insensless! It will go to a good cause [30-Sep-22 12:16 PM] churavis#0000 Blessed be the Holy Drinking Water, may you use it wisely [30-Sep-22 12:33 PM] namthorn#0000 put mine in the bank, I've got plenty of dosh ๐Ÿ‘ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Sep-22 12:34 PM] balbar#0000 Thanks Insensless ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Sep-22 12:36 PM] dersix#0000 Hey folks, it might be a bit of a bad timing but I also have to resign from the game. From next month on my time will reduce drastically and that will no longer allow me to maintain a good running account. I'm going to give away my stuff either tomorrow or on sunday. I'll continue feeding Griff until my term is over, so there will be no negative publicity coming from that. If no one wants to take over Griff, I'm going to inform the locals so that they can find someone to follow. In case you already need some of the stuff that I'm producing, just drop me a message, I'll give it away for 1 AIC. If someone needs an economical push for building up some industries to support OOG just let me know, otherwise I'll put the cash in the bank. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (13) [30-Sep-22 01:59 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Wishing you the best Insensless, thanks for everything bro. [30-Sep-22 02:00 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I see, thanks for all the help Pokter. Wish you the best in future endeavors [30-Sep-22 07:16 PM] domicius#0000 Sorry to see you go - best of luck with everything. [30-Sep-22 08:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Do we have a high res version of the "OBCM" logo that appears in the discord icon? [01-Oct-22 10:01 AM] Deleted User#0000 What does our R-fab production capacity look like? [03-Oct-22 02:00 PM] jackinabox86#0000 @everyone please update your columns in the corporation spreadsheet (bases and price) if you are an active member. Thanks much {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ (6) [03-Oct-22 03:40 PM] insensless72#0000 Starting today I will begin planetary yard sales for my bases. I will fill contracts in the order I receive them. Note some items may not be for sale as they have a specific purpose [03-Oct-22 03:58 PM] Deleted User#0000 Is there a list of available items? [03-Oct-22 03:59 PM] insensless72#0000 You should see threads located beneath the names of the planets [03-Oct-22 05:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 On mobile -sorry [03-Oct-22 06:55 PM] megasaberexe#0000 I don't have much to update but i will take a look at it [03-Oct-22 10:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i feel like i should have read this before playing prosperous universe. Hope you all are doing well {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1026692952925421569/Hayek_45.pdf?ex=6814e093&is=68138f13&hm=aad13b48e6932dc1fea5408a8b0894ddd3857c9c8e138f845584fcea9b4a28f1& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [03-Oct-22 10:15 PM] churavis#0000 You hadn't? I thought everyone had read Hayek [03-Oct-22 10:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 I haven't read it.๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [04-Oct-22 12:06 AM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Economic theory was not part of my formal education. I had to stumble upon it randomly, out in the wild. [04-Oct-22 08:12 AM] jackinabox86#0000 yeah, Hayek is great [04-Oct-22 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Dehzhas of "Garson Kilman Industries" [GK42] is a new player with only 20days. But he sold me on a really nice pre-purchase of DW. 500 units a week for 5 weeks. He's been delivering well, and he's been active in several of the community discord channels. I just had a chat with him and I think his goals align really well with ours, and he's expressed interest in joining OOG. He's got my enthusiastic recommendation. [04-Oct-22 03:15 PM] allocater#0000 invite him: https://discord.gg/na22eUZW {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [04-Oct-22 03:18 PM] dehzhas#0000 Joined the server. [04-Oct-22 03:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Dehzhas! Take a look at #rules-faq and #general and let us know if you have any questions [04-Oct-22 03:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've already shared a bit about our corp goals and culture, shipping and members pricing. I didn't mention the traditional 200k investment package (the non-loan that does not need to be repaid).. but I did mention we also do loans. [04-Oct-22 03:23 PM] dehzhas#0000 The rules look great and I think I will fit in well here ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Oct-22 03:27 PM] dehzhas#0000 When should I add my planets to the spreadsheet? Now or after the 1 week trial? [04-Oct-22 03:30 PM] rune_242#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [04-Oct-22 03:30 PM] dehzhas#0000 Also I suppose I should ask about the timing of the 200k investment package. I have planning to do ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Oct-22 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Excellent questions. I think you can add your planets right away if you want. The in-game invite comes at the end of the trial, just remind us when that's up and I can send you an investment package at that time. And you can take advantage of the corp pricing now as well. (if any of that's wrong, please let me know, I _think_ that's how we've been doing it.) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [04-Oct-22 03:50 PM] jackinabox86#0000 All sounds right to me! [04-Oct-22 04:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 @dehzhas Oh you were the one setting up those long-term RAT / DW contracts in the UFO discord. I thought that was really good gameplay to promote those, and useful to the player community. Glad you are joining our corporation. Hope it works out. [04-Oct-22 04:24 PM] dehzhas#0000 Yep, that was me ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Oct-22 08:32 PM] balbar#0000 [05-Oct-22 01:05 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 [06-Oct-22 07:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 Record for longest production time: http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-06_07-44-21.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-06_07-44-21.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4yKP5IweiRcvlM-fxGW-88HdaAgcvGId4TFnCs8z12o/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-06_07-44-21.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (3) [06-Oct-22 07:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 1 engineer and 1 technician until pop rolls over on Deimos [06-Oct-22 08:42 AM] jackinabox86#0000 lol [06-Oct-22 08:42 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I thought my SPF was bad when I got 15 engineers and it took 22 days to build my first FTL reactor [06-Oct-22 08:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1027577624400236554/unknown.png?ex=6814ccbd&is=68137b3d&hm=a76d42fa93f9e960f79656e2fe765db98b2fd147e5ee4d4a2f43f0ca9b4141d6& [06-Oct-22 08:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can just imagine the two guys standing alone in a giant factory. The engineer with his arms crossed and the technician holding a clipboard with a todo list 500 items long. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [06-Oct-22 12:23 PM] dersix#0000 Hey! No bashing of engineers here ;p [06-Oct-22 03:12 PM] churavis#0000 I now hold the record for most expensive PWO ever sold on AI1 CX as the price is spiking. Also, I still have extra on Heph and Ant so if anyone needs some then send me a contract and don't buy it at my nose gouging price. [06-Oct-22 03:13 PM] churavis#0000 Nose gouging fellow Ooga Boogers just isn't fun like it is with randos [06-Oct-22 03:14 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1027675293634269294/Screenshot_20221006-1414042.png?ex=681527b3&is=6813d633&hm=f20f6ce9e800867bb52b7a38178faba400bd5e3917d7197962a5c7c68ac900fd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ (2) [06-Oct-22 03:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 For a second there I thought it was me. I bought PWO just a few hours ago at 240 AIC / u. crazy jump! [06-Oct-22 05:48 PM] dehzhas#0000 This hurts ๐Ÿ˜ญ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1027713999929884712/Screen_Shot_2022-10-06_at_3.46.47_PM.png?ex=6814a2ff&is=6813517f&hm=4a8863cd19cb80fb4c51b661065769519c9ccb02826a696a4d829fcf167f6b77& [06-Oct-22 06:13 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t know man. I paid you a lot of money for RATs in the future and now I learn you canโ€™t even grow crops?? ๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [06-Oct-22 06:59 PM] dehzhas#0000 lol... I have crops flying into this base, but none grow there [07-Oct-22 04:56 AM] rune_242#0000 now that I think about it too bad we can't dissemble the ships from players who leave the game [07-Oct-22 04:56 AM] rune_242#0000 seems fair otherwise we could farm ships by making new accounts [07-Oct-22 09:03 AM] churavis#0000 You could make it so that only non-starter ships can be dismantled and subtract repair costs or more from mats recovered, similar to core modules or buildings [07-Oct-22 04:46 PM] insensless72#0000 @everyone Transfers to the bank are the last step before I leave. 7+ mil donations made to the bank if you are in need of funds. Once again I thank everyone for the fantastic gaming experience. I hope you find as much enjoyment with OOG as I did. I wish you the best of luck in your Space Rich endeavors! {Reactions} โค๏ธ (15) [07-Oct-22 05:05 PM] seraphx2#0000 so as long as i have the money to buy mats, i can upgrade my HQ as much as I want? just making sure I'm not missing some caveat. [07-Oct-22 05:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 up to level 5 without pro [07-Oct-22 05:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 after that, you just need the mats [07-Oct-22 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 They do get more expensive as you go: [07-Oct-22 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/hq/ HQ - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [07-Oct-22 06:14 PM] seraphx2#0000 pro is so cheap, im keeping it for now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [07-Oct-22 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 But there are a couple of super easy ones mixed in, so sometimes you can do more than one upgrade at a time [07-Oct-22 06:14 PM] seraphx2#0000 thanks for the chart. was gonna try to find something like that [07-Oct-22 09:19 PM] exeler#0000 Anyone want to buy some TI? 1000/u on ANT. I'm going to list it for higher on the CX. I've been trying to snipe the lowball offers from @allocater, but some other rando got smart and put in a slightly better, but still terrible offer. I've got 129 available [07-Oct-22 09:24 PM] yuen8241#0000 I suggest turning them into alloys. My Ti reserves will last me a long time.But the alloy is far from enough. How did they keep their balance before?๐Ÿ˜… [07-Oct-22 09:25 PM] exeler#0000 I would, but I don't have any ASM to do that with [07-Oct-22 09:28 PM] yuen8241#0000 If I can recruit enough engineers, I can consume 33 Ti a day. [07-Oct-22 09:29 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think this is the time for us to increase production capacity and digest inventory. [07-Oct-22 09:32 PM] churavis#0000 I don't think we're going to get enough engineers any time soon, Bobemar doesn't seem to want to contribute much more than DW and OFF [07-Oct-22 09:35 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1028133462101741648/unknown.png?ex=6814d827&is=681386a7&hm=ec0a6bb66386bba6631d087796b91b339b49102b036fca856452282f15281b85& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1028133462424686602/unknown.png?ex=6814d827&is=681386a7&hm=74c0060dbf93b6eaec1a2aed831e68f62d33f986ca95f2cceedc3b7536d06293& [07-Oct-22 09:35 PM] dehzhas#0000 I'm working on selling Bobemar the entire DW supply for Deimos. He has been sick so hasn't closed the deal on the rest of it, but I suspect he will close it. Once he has the entire DW supply delivered at 50/u weekly, he may be more open to contributing to other things. [07-Oct-22 09:35 PM] yuen8241#0000 Does this upgrade contribute to the population growth of engineers? [07-Oct-22 09:38 PM] churavis#0000 Engineers like to be super comfy above everything else: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1028134334294663290/unknown.png?ex=6814d8f7&is=68138777&hm=f0420e30b6c8db102ed2fbf0ea1b11adaecea2c2608ee50de3ab12ba615947d6& [07-Oct-22 09:41 PM] yuen8241#0000 Wild parks seem to be the cheapest way to get comfortable. [07-Oct-22 09:42 PM] yuen8241#0000 The maintenance cost of 4D Arcades is too high [07-Oct-22 09:42 PM] balbar#0000 they also don't care much about life support, safety or education. No food, no OSHA, only elementary school? "No Problem. Got my PS4 everythings good" ๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [08-Oct-22 12:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 I've got a shipping ad up to take 416 FOD from Harmonia to Deimos. I'll donate it when it arrives [08-Oct-22 01:16 AM] allocater#0000 if it's profitable for you to sell the TI you can do it. I don't actually need that much. [08-Oct-22 01:44 AM] exeler#0000 Yeah, 1000/u is a nice profit for me, especially since I was only paying 50/u for the TIO {Reactions} ๐Ÿค‘ [08-Oct-22 02:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 The main cost of Ti is Tio. If you purchase at 50/u, your profit will basically double. [08-Oct-22 08:01 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone I also left the corp. I will take a break from the game. I will keep my assets so I can return later. I enjoyed being part of Ooga Booga. And I am proud of the achievements of our corp. Have fun and continue our legacy. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (7) โค๏ธ (6) [08-Oct-22 08:06 AM] balbar#0000 feels like so many are leaving right now. No problem, and I hope to see you return! [08-Oct-22 08:33 AM] domicius#0000 Take it easy mate. We'll be here meanwhile. [08-Oct-22 08:34 AM] domicius#0000 We also have a lot of people joining ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Oct-22 08:37 AM] balbar#0000 Yeah, a bit of a turnover right now ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Oct-22 08:38 AM] domicius#0000 Is always been that way... The old timers move on, the young uns gotta step up. Corpo life innit? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [08-Oct-22 08:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 This is just the announced retirements finally taking effect. I actually wanted to post something about how great everyone has done stepping up. We've maintained our ship building capacity and it's been a catalyst for growth for everyone. So... fantastic job, all! {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [08-Oct-22 09:07 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, I'm back from my trip! I noticed that a few contracts were sent to me when I first left and they have now been cancelled. Feel free to re-send them now! There is quite a bit in the Discord to catch up with so just message me if I'm needed for anything because I'm not going to read everything from each channel ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [08-Oct-22 09:10 AM] churavis#0000 We upgraded Nike's infrastructure [08-Oct-22 09:11 AM] rune_242#0000 glad your back! [08-Oct-22 09:31 AM] churavis#0000 Do basic licensee's get recurring production queues? [08-Oct-22 09:31 AM] rune_242#0000 nope [08-Oct-22 09:31 AM] churavis#0000 That's what I was afraid of [08-Oct-22 09:33 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yeah, apparently! I see that there are plenty of open tech/eng jobs so I ran an education 3 program. Hopefully that helps {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Oct-22 09:56 AM] megasaberexe#0000 Welcome back YJ14 [08-Oct-22 02:59 PM] Deleted User#0000 Am going on a vacation for a week, so I will not be haunting these discord channels until I get back. Have fun! "Opportunity plus instinct equals profit." {Reactions} ๐Ÿ๏ธ (4) [08-Oct-22 03:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 rule number 9 ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Oct-22 09:56 AM] yjhasaday#0000 The perfect ratio of volume to weight feels good for my efficiency OCD ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1029044823136677908/unknown.png?ex=6814dd2c&is=68138bac&hm=025e4857e8545508230a01dca0afd80cc066a31a1078cc6a8ca89918df4e0c1c& {Reactions} Awesomeface ๐Ÿ˜ (2) [10-Oct-22 09:58 AM] dehzhas#0000 That's a beautiful sight [11-Oct-22 02:02 AM] rune_242#0000 anybody else having connection issues? [11-Oct-22 02:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 me too [11-Oct-22 02:03 AM] balbar#0000 jepp. "failed to connect" right now... [11-Oct-22 02:04 AM] balbar#0000 unscheduled maintenance maybe? [11-Oct-22 02:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1029288378149130301/unknown.png?ex=68151740&is=6813c5c0&hm=9dfe0dde408c53673c75c79253ea4bf0d5b85a9f7993ca1a0df78a60cb85d3fc& [11-Oct-22 02:04 AM] balbar#0000 scheduled maintenance then ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Oct-22 02:20 AM] balbar#0000 back up again [11-Oct-22 06:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 Finally, the fifth expert finally came to my Nike and etherwind base.๐Ÿ˜† {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1029356245993390100/unknown.png?ex=6814adb5&is=68135c35&hm=5c50673f8760af90f404c7ffd59543e506195a0dfb7742ff70467e2b26a72fd9& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [11-Oct-22 06:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that space is needed to build all the same kind of buildings to get the fifth expert. [13-Oct-22 03:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 Just now, for the first time, my cash arrived at 1 million. Then I spent it quickly.๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [13-Oct-22 06:46 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, itโ€™s annoying to hit a new peak and then just invest it again. [13-Oct-22 06:46 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I want to float! [13-Oct-22 07:03 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1030088322644721734/unknown.png?ex=6814b482&is=68136302&hm=e5db803f993607be7c3bb1e5288a06d1824789a7115491fc62d3dcd65e342864& [13-Oct-22 07:03 AM] rune_242#0000 how do y'all spend on fees? [13-Oct-22 07:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1030088804360523846/unknown.png?ex=6814b4f5&is=68136375&hm=fcf7db22fafc246b84bd588e4abe872bcf5cdbed0f33b606086044053084ab1c& [13-Oct-22 07:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 This part of the cost is negligible. [13-Oct-22 08:12 AM] yuen8241#0000 Do you have a convenient tool to count the total demand for consumables of all base populations? [13-Oct-22 09:26 AM] allocater#0000 mh, yes, business ๐Ÿคฃ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1030124382103797760/unknown.png?ex=6814d617&is=68138497&hm=7e5921b26c2816113445cde72135a93b6530ddca0f4f94b031b4f7fc58bfa920& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… (2) [13-Oct-22 09:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Could probably do it with FIO data pretty easily. Annoying that Prunner doesn't do it [13-Oct-22 09:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, Prunner can do it just by adding a little to his existing one. [13-Oct-22 09:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 How do you make revenue negative? [13-Oct-22 09:40 AM] allocater#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [13-Oct-22 09:41 AM] allocater#0000 maybe because I pay real money for ship components and then sell them for 1 AIC {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [13-Oct-22 09:42 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://fio.fnar.net/burn has an "overall" category at the bottom. It can be set to "workforce only" if you just want to see population consumables {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Oct-22 03:12 PM] churavis#0000 Did Pokter really have 20 PP3? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1030211434073833472/Screenshot_20221013-1411072.png?ex=6815272a&is=6813d5aa&hm=35fcbd984cf69a1f0d5dd827fd14c805e1f043e297ac1e4004c5d3fc66ee3304& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคท [13-Oct-22 03:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 He had 7 WPLs on Heph, presumably to make KV. and enough LAB/POL/CHP for the EPO, TCL, etc... so yeah maybe he was really making that many rfabs all the time [13-Oct-22 03:23 PM] allocater#0000 also INS [13-Oct-22 03:23 PM] rune_242#0000 he had quite the money... [13-Oct-22 03:24 PM] churavis#0000 Well I guess if he had 20 then I can probably build more than 2. I don't know how much I'll have to change to supply them though. [13-Oct-22 04:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 he had a guaranteed buyer for his Rfabs [13-Oct-22 04:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 you might want to ask him who that was if you make a ton; I think there's a ton of pent up in-corp demand [13-Oct-22 04:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 but ultimately, we will only use so many [13-Oct-22 04:41 PM] churavis#0000 There's plenty of demand on the CX alone so I don't think he'd need much more than the corp and CX [13-Oct-22 11:05 PM] yuen8241#0000 I guess Pokter's PP3 capacity serves his SE. [13-Oct-22 11:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 When his rfabs raw materials are insufficient, he can turn to INS production. [14-Oct-22 08:27 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I was originally excited to get some SE going, but having a handful now I donโ€™t feel like the payoff is all that high. We dump a shit ton of rfabs into them with a long payback period. But that might just be because over time you get complacent about bigger numbers. Iโ€™m sure in a couple months Iโ€™ll be over my newer investments as well [14-Oct-22 08:28 AM] churavis#0000 I feel like most people get into SE because it has few or no inputs so the logistics are super easy [14-Oct-22 08:30 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, agreed. It just didnโ€™t pan out to be the panacea I hoped it would be. Great to have Phobos and the ANT faction bonus though to get as much out of an SE as possible [14-Oct-22 09:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 My SE is a stable source of foreign exchange for me. [14-Oct-22 09:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I don't have to worry about not having enough ICA or CIS. [14-Oct-22 09:03 AM] seraphx2#0000 can you provision contracts from warehouse? [14-Oct-22 09:05 AM] seraphx2#0000 im a little confused. i provisioned 500 units in my base, but then i couldn't move it to my warehouse. does it have to stay where it was provisioned? or is the base storage the only place to provision from? [14-Oct-22 09:06 AM] churavis#0000 You can't move stuff once it's provisioned [14-Oct-22 09:07 AM] seraphx2#0000 ok. so if all 500 units were in the warehouse it would have provisioned it all there? [14-Oct-22 09:07 AM] churavis#0000 You would have needed to move it to the warehouse first and then provision it [14-Oct-22 09:07 AM] seraphx2#0000 cool cool [14-Oct-22 09:07 AM] seraphx2#0000 ty [14-Oct-22 04:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 200 brave pioneers have been recruited to live on ZV-896f. Carrying the OOG flag, they are the first to ever set foot (?) on the gas giant. {Reactions} ๐Ÿšฉ ๐Ÿฅณ [14-Oct-22 04:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_Z1SJZjRyCz.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_Z1SJZjRyCz.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WiHH-fAOje6yFkw0c1KkWXKE16GDFcK6Ipp7scnz3BU/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_Z1SJZjRyCz.png [14-Oct-22 04:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 that's 1 F in 1d4h with 100% efficiency [14-Oct-22 05:57 PM] churavis#0000 I mean, I would hope that you built a platform on which to step foot before you sent them to the planet [14-Oct-22 06:01 PM] jackinabox86#0000 All great. Did the thing with Melon not work out? [14-Oct-22 06:14 PM] dehzhas#0000 Venture forth brave souls and carry the OOG flag proudly. Don't forget to pack your thermal underwear... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Oct-22 06:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 He's still planning a base, it'll be a few weeks before it's ready though. [14-Oct-22 07:01 PM] churavis#0000 And even once he has the base he's obviously going to prioritize his own needs [14-Oct-22 07:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Well he is dead to me then [14-Oct-22 07:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Long live Archiel {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‘ [15-Oct-22 01:44 AM] churavis#0000 DLR would like to get rid of 5 TCO on Moria Station [16-Oct-22 01:51 AM] legosfreak#0000 Joined the server. [16-Oct-22 01:52 AM] allocater#0000 [16-Oct-22 01:52 AM] legosfreak#0000 Hello [16-Oct-22 01:58 AM] allocater#0000 hi, have look around. We have a channel for harmonia and every other planet, we are on, as well as general channels for logistics, fuel and shipbuilding ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Oct-22 01:58 AM] legosfreak#0000 Thanks. Reading through everything right now [16-Oct-22 01:58 AM] legosfreak#0000 Lot to take in lol. So much more than what I was expecting [16-Oct-22 02:49 AM] balbar#0000 [16-Oct-22 03:29 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 [16-Oct-22 07:40 AM] jackinabox86#0000 If you want to tell us what you produce and where, we may be able to be more helpful to you as you get started [16-Oct-22 09:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 FIM has gone up so crazy that I decided to prepare my own FIM production to hedge the risk.๐Ÿ˜… [16-Oct-22 11:37 AM] legosfreak#0000 Currently just expanded so I produce DW, RAT, and will be producing C and OVE [16-Oct-22 11:39 AM] churavis#0000 It's better to specialize so you can stack experts [16-Oct-22 12:25 PM] dersix#0000 I still have 20 pp3 but idle right now ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Oct-22 12:26 PM] dersix#0000 but I also had a customer that was taking all the rfabs (that now has liquidated) [16-Oct-22 12:27 PM] dersix#0000 I was running a ratio of ~24-30 rfabs and rest INS at the end [16-Oct-22 12:27 PM] churavis#0000 But how did you get all the inputs for that many? [16-Oct-22 12:28 PM] dersix#0000 1k base on griff, 1k base on umbra, 500 base on zv-759d (for HAL) [16-Oct-22 12:29 PM] dersix#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1031257511317209108/unknown.png?ex=681500e6&is=6813af66&hm=2fd0f13829a0a1c721a6bcd51e59bc2d18cbb4970de7675dc277b16be898e0cc& [16-Oct-22 12:29 PM] churavis#0000 Wow, that's 20 permits [16-Oct-22 12:30 PM] churavis#0000 Were you the customer buying all the rfabs for your HQ upgrades? [16-Oct-22 12:31 PM] dersix#0000 no he was building SE on 4 different planes [16-Oct-22 12:31 PM] dersix#0000 he had at least a 1k EDC base on phobos [16-Oct-22 12:57 PM] dersix#0000 and last but not least I think I've sold less than 100 rfabs on the CX, the volume going through there is pretty low [16-Oct-22 03:09 PM] rune_242#0000 I am overproducing RAT on norwic BIG time [16-Oct-22 03:10 PM] rune_242#0000 I can sell up to ~~6k~~ 3.8k who want them? [16-Oct-22 03:11 PM] domicius#0000 I'll take some [16-Oct-22 03:11 PM] domicius#0000 How much fits in a ship? [16-Oct-22 03:12 PM] rune_242#0000 2380 [16-Oct-22 03:12 PM] domicius#0000 I'll do that then [16-Oct-22 03:18 PM] domicius#0000 Contract sent [16-Oct-22 03:24 PM] zipatsu#0000 [17-Oct-22 01:04 AM] optitronic#0000 Joined the server. [17-Oct-22 01:09 AM] optitronic#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/EREoOKpvjGYm4Wp-Jsp7FxS-GUm-jbQAfhlpQ6mZDlA/https/media.tenor.com/6us3et_6HDoAAAAD/hello-there-hi-there.png [17-Oct-22 01:14 AM] balbar#0000 [17-Oct-22 02:11 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 [17-Oct-22 02:27 AM] allocater#0000 [17-Oct-22 03:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 [17-Oct-22 06:04 AM] Deleted User#0000 [17-Oct-22 06:05 AM] Deleted User#0000 [17-Oct-22 06:05 AM] Deleted User#0000 Hiya new people. Welcome! [17-Oct-22 07:18 AM] zipatsu#0000 [17-Oct-22 08:49 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Greetings. What are you up to in game? Bases/products produced? [17-Oct-22 09:51 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [17-Oct-22 10:53 AM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1031595787865571459/image0.gif?ex=6814ea71&is=681398f1&hm=7bef9590018203cac8cd0e7f651c771b1a5a4f720c9fd4c752e73de302126fed& [17-Oct-22 12:17 PM] exeler#0000 [19-Oct-22 10:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @optitronic and @legosfreak ! I'd encourage you to enter your bases and prices on the two sheets on this google doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=0 That helps us know what you're focusing on so we can help out- either buying your stuff or helping you with your supply of consumables and ingredients. {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets Antares Holdings Corp,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,IY-206j,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,Demeter,Nascent,QJ-650c,Norwick,QJ-382c,Ice Station Alpha # OF BASES >>,13,17,15,15,11,1,4,9,2,2,2,4,12,3 Production buildings only, please. Large stac... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [19-Oct-22 08:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 ALE of HRT and SF of Ben are both very cheap. [19-Oct-22 09:13 PM] churavis#0000 Well that just a recipe for drunk driving disasters [20-Oct-22 03:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 If all goes well, I can buy 10,000 SF at the price of 7.32CIS. [20-Oct-22 08:39 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Is that worth a shipping run when you can buy it from us for 8 AIC? [20-Oct-22 09:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 I use it too much, so that I may buy up the stock of yj14. Besides, the cargo hold was empty when I came back from benten. [20-Oct-22 09:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yang and pokter are both H producers. I don't know if yj14 can support the original demand now. [20-Oct-22 09:42 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, H is somewhat questionable at the moment [21-Oct-22 10:29 AM] yjhasaday#0000 https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-smile-evil-plan-oh-yes-gif-4617744 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-smile-evil-plan-oh-yes-gif-4617744 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3Tv-Gn60fcg0TVnWCT8VpCUxfPpvkf3bnbJJFCgqxbE/https/media.tenor.com/J0MM8poXVx8AAAAD/the-simpsons-mr-burns.png [21-Oct-22 10:30 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi @everyone, we have a threat to take our HQ planet, Nike! I am asking those on Nike to vote, which I've already done in the Nike channel, but here I am asking anyone who ISN'T on Nike if they want a base there? I am willing to personally finance bases for votes - this may not be legal in the real world but in PrUn... anything goes. *taps fingers together like Mr. Burns* Please let me know if you currently aren't on Nike but would like to be and I can give you a payment to join/the bfabs and basic base building materials. Don't let OOG homeworld fall! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [21-Oct-22 10:42 AM] balbar#0000 I never say no to a new base ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Oct-22 10:43 AM] jackinabox86#0000 everyone should have a base on Nike given the 10% corp production bonus. If nothing else, help extract LST [21-Oct-22 10:47 AM] balbar#0000 I'll put up the ads gonna help with LST at least [21-Oct-22 10:48 AM] balbar#0000 uh..is anyone doing SEA? can't see any prices on the sheet... [21-Oct-22 10:48 AM] churavis#0000 The corp uses a lot of LST and the CX can soak up quite a bit too. [21-Oct-22 10:49 AM] churavis#0000 I've got 760 SEA [21-Oct-22 10:50 AM] balbar#0000 i'd like 195 if possible ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Oct-22 10:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 @exeler You can consider building a base in nike. [21-Oct-22 10:56 AM] balbar#0000 @churavis what do you want for the SEA? [21-Oct-22 11:06 AM] churavis#0000 80/u is fine [21-Oct-22 11:07 AM] balbar#0000 ad is up [21-Oct-22 11:07 AM] seraphx2#0000 how long do we have to setup a base [21-Oct-22 11:08 AM] balbar#0000 6d 3h [21-Oct-22 11:08 AM] balbar#0000 so until about thursday [21-Oct-22 11:09 AM] dehzhas#0000 I would love a base on Nike [21-Oct-22 11:09 AM] dehzhas#0000 It's in my plans and one of the few planets I can support logistically at the moment. [21-Oct-22 11:15 AM] Deleted User#0000 I have 122 SEA (on Nike) to offer new Nike bases and there are 1000s of SEA on the ANT CX which is not always the case and the CX price is at the 7-day average of 120/u [21-Oct-22 11:32 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 I have a free permit I can use for that but I'll have to abandon the base afterwards and use the permit somewhere else in the near future. [21-Oct-22 11:34 AM] churavis#0000 You can get the entire core module mats back no matter how long its there [21-Oct-22 11:34 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Then maybe if someone could trade the mats I can make a base, then when I'm gone I'll send them back to that person? [21-Oct-22 11:34 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Also huh, more motivated to vote for elections in a game than IRL ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Oct-22 11:35 AM] churavis#0000 Your vote makes a bigger difference here and for someone you know personally [21-Oct-22 12:00 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 To whom should I reach out for the mats? Can also pay for them if needed. Dont have any ships near CX's to buy them though at least for half a week. [21-Oct-22 12:16 PM] allocater#0000 PSL has to come from outside, L-fabs probably from @yjhasadayTRU and mcg from anyone, if you create the ads we will see what remains unfulfilled [21-Oct-22 12:33 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, just create ads on the Nike LM and I will fill what I can, I have Bfabs, some Lfabs, bringing in more PSL, lots of MCG, and a little SEA. But I do not have TRU so we may need someone else to cover that. Maybe bring it in from Deimos? [21-Oct-22 12:43 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Posted them now ^ [21-Oct-22 12:47 PM] yjhasaday#0000 For more clarity I will cover the Core Module as well as a HB1, EXT, and one building of your choice for free. I'm thinking the best way to do this is for you all to post buy ads on the LM for the usual corp price on these things, and send me a contract selling 1 RAT/DW for the total bill. I do not have all the materials to cover everyone so we will need some other corp members to fill some orders - this method will allow them to get paid for their contributions as well {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Oct-22 12:48 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Can you delete them and repost for the full values and send me the bill? I will fill the money right away so you can pay them right away [21-Oct-22 12:48 PM] yjhasaday#0000 There are some things you posted that I can't fill ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [21-Oct-22 12:49 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Sorry for the inconvenience and the math you guys will have to do, but hey, You get a free base ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Oct-22 12:49 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Already done, just checking the spreedsheet now for the corp prices and will repost ^^ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Oct-22 12:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=489658022 I assume that is is somewhat up to date for everyone? {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets Antares Holdings Corp,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,IY-206j,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,Demeter,Nascent,QJ-650c,Norwick,QJ-382c,Ice Station Alpha # OF BASES >>,13,17,15,15,11,1,4,9,2,2,2,4,12,3 Production buildings only, please. Large stac... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [21-Oct-22 12:55 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I have hundreds of TRU on Nike [21-Oct-22 12:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 let me know what is needed, or I can give a chunk to YJ and he can give it out with the rest of the kits [21-Oct-22 12:58 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Excellent, thank you! What is your price per unit of TRU? I'm calculating a flat number for base payouts [21-Oct-22 12:59 PM] jackinabox86#0000 150 [21-Oct-22 01:04 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 This is what I used for prices, if it helps anyone - based on the spreadsheet above: TRU - 8 for 1200 - 150ea MCG - 100 for 1500 - 15ea SEA - 25 for 2975 - 119ea (didn't find any in the spreadsheet so took the market price) LSE - 4 for 15600 - 3900ea PSL - 12 for 19200 - 1600ea LDE - 4 for 14000 - 3500ea LTA - 4 for 5200 - 1300ea Total: 59 675 [21-Oct-22 01:05 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Side question - if I vote, then demolish the base to get the materials back for the core module, does the vote still remain? Could trade mats to someone else afterwards. [21-Oct-22 01:08 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I think you did it all right, but the MCG is 15ea, to prevent confusion {Reactions} Prayge [21-Oct-22 01:08 PM] yjhasaday#0000 So I have expanded on your post above, my offer also includes a HB1, EXT, and I've decided to include a PP2. So the total comes to 106K, but I will bump it up to 115K for some money to cover consumables to get started. So anyone who is interested in a Nike base send me a contract requesting 115K AIC and then post your buys for the following: [21-Oct-22 01:09 PM] churavis#0000 I've got SEA for 80/u [21-Oct-22 01:10 PM] yjhasaday#0000 okay, will fix, but the number can remain at 115K [21-Oct-22 01:11 PM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1033080027702632468/unknown.png?ex=68150ac0&is=6813b940&hm=41175800f644d4dc7b14e26eb964fa5f0a494d6009b06db1c2748d8a0144c708& [22-Oct-22 07:07 AM] Deleted User#0000 ~~I need to obtain 100 CIS to rent a warehouse on Benton Station~~ thanks corp! [22-Oct-22 08:07 PM] Deleted User#0000 There are six shipping contracts ANT->Nike for 10,000 AIC each posted on ANT CX LM [22-Oct-22 11:40 PM] optitronic#0000 Ooga Booga Corporate Production [23-Oct-22 04:34 AM] allocater#0000 what is the command to see repair status? [23-Oct-22 09:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think I'm answering the wrong question, but: https://fio.fnar.net/buildingdata is how I do it ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Oct-22 09:32 AM] allocater#0000 I think there is something in-game as well, but this will do [23-Oct-22 10:19 AM] balbar#0000 XIT BURN_Phobos [23-Oct-22 10:19 AM] balbar#0000 i think that is what you are looking for? replace Phobos with wahtever Planet you are looking for [23-Oct-22 10:39 AM] allocater#0000 I mean one with decay status and repair costs [23-Oct-22 11:01 AM] balbar#0000 ah sorry, that one is XIT REPAIRS_Phobos {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [23-Oct-22 08:55 PM] yuen8241#0000 I want to exchange some CIS. Does anyone have it? [23-Oct-22 09:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 200,000 CIS and would prefer AIC. [23-Oct-22 09:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Did you want to get rid of CIS, or get some? [23-Oct-22 09:04 PM] churavis#0000 allocater is always looking for foreign currencies [23-Oct-22 09:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, but he's not online. I need CIS. [23-Oct-22 09:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'll send you a contract and exchange my AIC for your CIS. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ’ฑ [23-Oct-22 09:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'm purchasing raw materials for my Umbra base, and since I will ship PG and EPO back, it will cause me a deficit of CIS. [24-Oct-22 01:41 AM] allocater#0000 still have 2mil CIS if you need more [24-Oct-22 01:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'll exchange it when the next wave of my money comes back. [24-Oct-22 09:39 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Any more people looking for a free Nike base?! We're just a couple votes short. Looking at the newer players! Come join us on the corp homeworld ๐Ÿ˜Ž 3 days left on the election! [24-Oct-22 09:53 AM] _bojidar#0000 I.m in to get a base [24-Oct-22 09:58 AM] optitronic#0000 How do we get in on that? [24-Oct-22 09:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 Rent a warehouse in nike, post an advertisement for purchasing materials for the construction base, and then call someone else to finish it, and it's done. [24-Oct-22 10:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034119444118638703/unknown.png?ex=6814de48&is=68138cc8&hm=2f682d713a5d75f2412aa4c7dd4c44e88dc361cc376f8c2b22096627542c2eb5& [24-Oct-22 10:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 It is the minimum requirement for the construction of this base, in order to avoid that our materials are not enough to support everyone. Please build the base first these days, and then build the production building after the election. [24-Oct-22 10:04 AM] optitronic#0000 OK cool. I'd definitely need a loan or something to afford the materials. Kinda low on cash atm. ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Oct-22 10:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you need a loan, contact allocater {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [24-Oct-22 10:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 Please modify your name format to facilitate searching your player name/company name. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Oct-22 10:28 AM] Deleted User#0000 just like playing board games... if there is a mechanism for taking out loans, then you should seriously consider doing it ๐Ÿ™‚ it feels nice being able to boot-strap yourself in this game, but most buildings will pay for themselves very quickly.. the money shouldn't be a limiting factor for your expansion efforts, early in the game I was reluctant to take a loans from allocator, but it really shortened the time to reach a consistent profitability [24-Oct-22 11:03 AM] jackinabox86#0000 It also helps you get to a scale where you can enjoy the game {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [24-Oct-22 11:03 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I knew I would love this game, but it took getting to 4 bases before I could feel like I was pushing enough buttons to have fun during a particular session [24-Oct-22 11:05 AM] churavis#0000 I dunno, the most fun I had in this game was when I was so strapped for cash that I had to build a complex spreadsheet to calculate the most profitable products {Reactions} โœ… (2) [24-Oct-22 02:05 PM] rune_242#0000 can somebody sell me 1k H on KI-401d? [24-Oct-22 02:51 PM] yjhasaday#0000 This time is a bit different, I'm shamelessly buying votes so we don't lose our home planet! This isn't a loan, its a bribe ๐Ÿ˜† So you don't need to pay it back. Also FYI to @_bojidar and anyone else interested. How it works: Just send me a contract or post on the LM 1 DW/RAT for sale for 115,000 AIC and I will fill it. You can then use the money to create your Nike base - The money was calculated to cover the following materials - which should be enough for you to build a Core Module, HB1, EXT, and a PP2. @allocater if you have already handed out any money then let me know and I'll pay it back to you! You can post for the materials at the prices in the chart on the Nike LM, members from the corp will fill what we can! As soon as your base is up and running be sure to toss me a vote in the Nike election ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034192551298740254/unknown.png?ex=6815225e&is=6813d0de&hm=0f253c7edac5c95846f70f87ce73aca1cc8ca1bcb6261d5e950211d9cca1d276& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [24-Oct-22 02:53 PM] churavis#0000 Someone else changed their vote to Rannepeare so we're back to needed a tie breaker [24-Oct-22 03:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 @seraphx2 Here's how you get the cash, and also the materials you will need [24-Oct-22 03:29 PM] seraphx2#0000 yeah. lol. guess I should have read all the new content first haha [24-Oct-22 03:30 PM] seraphx2#0000 but as yuen said, don't we just need the CM? do we need to actually have production going? [24-Oct-22 03:30 PM] seraphx2#0000 115k seems a higher burden than necessary if it's just the CM that's needed [24-Oct-22 03:31 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Lol, no the production buildings are a gift - we are in need of more LST extraction and Bfab production so I'm happy to lend some extra funds to those new to Nike as long as they are helping fill a corp need ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Oct-22 03:31 PM] seraphx2#0000 ahhh gotcha [24-Oct-22 03:32 PM] seraphx2#0000 well, if it's LST that you need as well, might as well take you up on it....lol [24-Oct-22 03:32 PM] yjhasaday#0000 That being said, you don't need to build them! Do as you please (but they are probably the best starter buildings for a Nike base) [24-Oct-22 03:35 PM] churavis#0000 It's pretty easy to sell LST on the LM for CX prices [24-Oct-22 04:31 PM] seraphx2#0000 @yjhasaday ad up on Harmonia for 1DW [24-Oct-22 04:32 PM] churavis#0000 Is it holy water? [24-Oct-22 04:32 PM] seraphx2#0000 the holiest, one might say [24-Oct-22 05:16 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Filled! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Oct-22 08:05 PM] yuen8241#0000 @yjhasadayI sponsored two people to come to nike, one has already voted, and the other will arrive tomorrow.๐Ÿฅณ [24-Oct-22 08:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 The good news is that nike has a bunch of players, and fabs and LST will increase. The bad news is that AL is going to raise prices.๐Ÿคฃ [25-Oct-22 09:30 AM] Deleted User#0000 I have 100 ALE available at ANT CX @ 950 AIC [25-Oct-22 09:47 AM] domicius#0000 They're gone already [25-Oct-22 09:57 AM] Deleted User#0000 they're available for private contracts I was going to sell them on the market, but I wanted to check if anyone could use a boost to their productivity [25-Oct-22 10:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 I usually buy a bunch of ALE from HRT. ALE is mainly used by technicians (ASM and LAB) [25-Oct-22 10:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now ALE has a good price in ANT, so I suggest you sell it directly. [25-Oct-22 10:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034482414837301289/unknown.png?ex=6814ded3&is=68138d53&hm=f231b89aeb348803b27388dd9909561363ee92540327ca35a653c081206bcd6b& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034482415244165191/unknown.png?ex=6814ded3&is=68138d53&hm=c4dff23ea39d209da8b052f53c31ded64e1d7d319c75b3522c3d035c8baac557& [25-Oct-22 10:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 ALE is mainly used by LAB. After all, PP3 and ASM will not build many. [25-Oct-22 10:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 So can these technicians do experiments after drinking?๐Ÿ˜… [25-Oct-22 10:17 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone need Hydrogen? I have lots on QJ-382g right now, I will sell it for 30/u but you have to send your own ship out. You're welcome to flip it on the CX - my focus is just to move it off planet lol [25-Oct-22 10:20 AM] jackinabox86#0000 thank God [25-Oct-22 10:21 AM] jackinabox86#0000 been waiting for an H oversupply [25-Oct-22 10:22 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Send a 2K ship - I can fill it! [25-Oct-22 10:22 AM] yjhasaday#0000 AMM available too [25-Oct-22 11:09 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Any left? [25-Oct-22 12:04 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Sounds like a genuinely malicious pirate taking contracts that you will likely want to block. https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/967041882217660456/1034343282165153802 @everyone [25-Oct-22 12:05 PM] _bojidar#0000 No access to this..what is it about? [25-Oct-22 12:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Block `KingJams` [25-Oct-22 12:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034513323787567204/unknown.png?ex=6814fb9c&is=6813aa1c&hm=3cca031a24b82efc9788518a56eb6c3943977a4dde5449fb14b59a90158528eb& [25-Oct-22 12:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Fortunately my shipment of 4 LFEs was not picked up by him ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Oct-22 12:08 PM] jackinabox86#0000 one person says they're out a mil [25-Oct-22 12:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 .. One of the same people who was running against Swatacular in the Nike election.. Is it a coincidence???? Probably [25-Oct-22 12:50 PM] seraphx2#0000 like. it's a small game. at some point you'll barely be able to do anything cuz everyone will have you blacklisted [25-Oct-22 01:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 @churavis I'm beginning to see why you like selling at super high prices on the CX. I set a nice record with these: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ƒ ๐Ÿด [25-Oct-22 01:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-25_13-48-06.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-25_13-48-06.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vL55uZS4CFfDNvGWDL3-0Fv6X-zAFePMILIbSNmEp_M/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-10-25_13-48-06.png [25-Oct-22 02:13 PM] churavis#0000 Nose gouging is fun [25-Oct-22 02:14 PM] churavis#0000 Also, it's better to have a super high priced mat for sale than nothing at all so that at least the most desperate people can buy it. [25-Oct-22 02:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 That was the only BL in the universe, and the first ever sold in ANT space. [25-Oct-22 02:22 PM] jackinabox86#0000 putting that F base to good use I see [25-Oct-22 02:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's very slow going ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Oct-22 02:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Half of it has gone to VG . But it looks like other people have begun producing [25-Oct-22 02:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 VG is 14k now? Wild [25-Oct-22 02:24 PM] churavis#0000 If that's the case then you charged too little for it [25-Oct-22 02:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe! it did take a few days to sell [25-Oct-22 02:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which reminds me, I gotta check in with @rune_242 about VIT production ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [25-Oct-22 02:25 PM] churavis#0000 If it doesn't take at least a week to sell then you're not charging enough, unless it's something I need of course {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [25-Oct-22 03:35 PM] rune_242#0000 wil start in about 3 days {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [25-Oct-22 07:03 PM] megasaberexe#0000 Thanks for the heads up [25-Oct-22 07:10 PM] Deleted User#0000 @jackinabox86 Yes all 100 [25-Oct-22 07:11 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Cool. Sending contract [25-Oct-22 07:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 Na Zdrowie! [26-Oct-22 04:39 AM] rune_242#0000 does anybody know for how long FLX has been sold out? [26-Oct-22 04:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have a lot of spare time. I can give it to you if you need it urgently. [26-Oct-22 04:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 on Deimos [26-Oct-22 04:40 AM] rune_242#0000 oh no, I have 5k in stock so I'm good๐Ÿ˜… [26-Oct-22 04:41 AM] rune_242#0000 just would like to know how much money I can make on the CX๐Ÿค‘ [26-Oct-22 04:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 Then ship it to CX to sell money, and save those metallurgical factory owners. [26-Oct-22 04:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 According to the record, someone bought them all today. [26-Oct-22 04:43 AM] rune_242#0000 can you see how many he bought? [26-Oct-22 04:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 About three hundred. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Oct-22 04:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034764720814702663/unknown.png?ex=6814943e&is=681342be&hm=11e5c7257949386d7abb741c86b980919c48d1d938ce2fc9a6d4aabe643b0f88& [26-Oct-22 04:46 AM] rune_242#0000 so that's how that works๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Oct-22 04:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 The production of FLX is too fast, and the FLX produced in one day is enough for a long time, so the supply is not stable enough. [26-Oct-22 07:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 Does anyone have CIS? I want to exchange some. [26-Oct-22 07:38 AM] Deleted User#0000 Renewed my subscription... Back on PRO account again... Voted in the Nike election although YJ14 was already ahead by 10 {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [26-Oct-22 07:42 AM] exeler#0000 Can confirm it was about 300. This was me lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [26-Oct-22 07:46 AM] zipatsu#0000 It's not much but I can exchange 50k CIS โœŒ๏ธ [26-Oct-22 07:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 thank you {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [26-Oct-22 09:12 AM] allocater#0000 not gonna beat the FLX record of 1,680 but I am gonna try for 300 ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-22 10:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1034847437963153408/unknown.png?ex=6814e147&is=68138fc7&hm=d940bc336014989c74eee73ad709b352bdb3b1266465fe5fbb8ff399b69c7316& [26-Oct-22 10:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 New base, great.๐Ÿฅณ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [26-Oct-22 10:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 I hope I can build two more bases next month, and my fabs will run out again.๐Ÿคฃ [26-Oct-22 10:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 Without Fio, I really don't have the confidence to manage more than ten bases. [26-Oct-22 10:59 AM] sginga#0000 Joined the server. [26-Oct-22 11:06 AM] balbar#0000 [26-Oct-22 11:09 AM] allocater#0000 [26-Oct-22 11:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome sgninga! Check out the #welcome channel and the #rules-faq and let us know if you have any questions! [26-Oct-22 11:26 AM] rune_242#0000 [26-Oct-22 11:48 AM] optitronic#0000 [26-Oct-22 11:49 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 [26-Oct-22 12:46 PM] zipatsu#0000 [26-Oct-22 02:14 PM] yjhasaday#0000 [26-Oct-22 02:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I bought it, so congrats! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [26-Oct-22 07:01 PM] .zogii#0000 Joined the server. [26-Oct-22 07:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 I invited my i.r.l. friend Zogii to the corporation.. they are starting out on harmonia and just got a PRO account [26-Oct-22 07:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Zogii ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-22 07:20 PM] dehzhas#0000 [26-Oct-22 07:22 PM] dehzhas#0000 @.zogii if you are just starting out and looking for opportunities, I am in need of regular supplier of FRM (farm) outputs and would be happy to help invest in your base to accelerate growth in exchange for a consistent supply. Only if you are inclined to go that way, no pressure. [26-Oct-22 07:22 PM] .zogii#0000 Thanks, excited to join. Just starting up with some farms on Harmonia {Reactions} ๐Ÿคค [26-Oct-22 07:26 PM] .zogii#0000 I'll keep the offer in mind as I get going, thank you! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Oct-22 07:36 PM] yuen8241#0000 [26-Oct-22 08:37 PM] balbar#0000 [26-Oct-22 10:32 PM] optitronic#0000 [27-Oct-22 12:39 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 [27-Oct-22 07:35 AM] zipatsu#0000 [27-Oct-22 10:15 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [27-Oct-22 10:20 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome Zogii! I'm sure @Deleted User has probably already told you about the corp but check out the #welcome and #rules-faq channels for further reading. OOG offers a fuel program for your ships - be sure to take advantage whenever you are on ANT, Nike, or Deimos! Let us know if you have any further questions, Happy trading! [27-Oct-22 08:25 PM] .zogii#0000 Thanks for the welcome everyone, this info. is really helpful, appreciate it [27-Oct-22 10:21 PM] gladeowl#0000 Joined the server. [27-Oct-22 10:21 PM] demannu#0000 :this: one is mine [27-Oct-22 10:23 PM] demannu#0000 I humbly extend my invitation to join our fine price fixing establishment, who do I press my wax seal on for approval [27-Oct-22 10:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Presumably him? I donโ€™t want anything pressed on me {Reactions} com [27-Oct-22 10:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Greetings! [27-Oct-22 10:24 PM] gladeowl#0000 'ello [27-Oct-22 10:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! [27-Oct-22 10:32 PM] gladeowl#0000 oh.. I'm supposed to introduce myself. Hello, started on Harmonia as a Farmer, 56 days ago. Just expanded to Deimos a week ago for an ALO base to supply @exeler with the stuff. [27-Oct-22 11:00 PM] balbar#0000 [28-Oct-22 12:45 AM] allocater#0000 [28-Oct-22 02:12 AM] exeler#0000 [28-Oct-22 04:16 AM] zipatsu#0000 [28-Oct-22 05:53 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Nice. If youโ€™ve got some area left on the base, Iโ€™d be happy to help you expand and buy a good amount of ALO consistently [28-Oct-22 06:21 AM] gladeowl#0000 Oh, neat. I'll have to check with Exeler though, as the current base only provides around half of what he wants. So need to reserve some area for that expansion. How much ALO were you thinking of? [28-Oct-22 07:48 AM] Deleted User#0000 [28-Oct-22 08:43 AM] jackinabox86#0000 150 a day? [28-Oct-22 08:48 AM] gladeowl#0000 oh. That's pretty doable. With the current number of experts (2), I have enough space to for upto 209 a day. [28-Oct-22 10:47 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Cool. If you need anything to help with the expansion, let me know [28-Oct-22 10:48 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [28-Oct-22 10:50 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome GladeOwl! Be sure to check out our #welcome and #rules-faq pages to bring yourself up to speed on OOG processes. If you have any questions/concerns let us know! [28-Oct-22 10:05 PM] gladeowl#0000 Will do, Thanks! [28-Oct-22 11:13 PM] gladeowl#0000 If you want. I can send you a bunch of contracts totalling to around 160k (5 contracts for 500 ALO for 64/u), if you pay in advance I'll use that to fund the expansion and then just fill them up one by one. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1035768303551000576/unknown.png?ex=6814ef27&is=68139da7&hm=7c4d00632e2cd4cabad7a5b601a6494a858a101e3be0a22c3306e9581bbe3775& [29-Oct-22 02:15 AM] allocater#0000 you can get all b fabs for 1000 each on nike/deimos [29-Oct-22 10:24 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, we have a corp spreadsheet where we fill out our bases and what products we sell. If you navigate to the 2nd tab you will see the prices we ask for our products, any time you need bfabs come to Nike or Deimos and you can get them far cheaper than CX prices! The link for the sheet is in the #welcome channel [29-Oct-22 11:01 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Works for me. My wife is in light labor atm, so Iโ€™m not starting contracts, but Iโ€™ll fulfill something when I have a chance if you send me a contract for the money {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (10) ๐Ÿ‘ถ (7) ๐Ÿผ (3) ๐Ÿคฑ (3) โค๏ธ (2) [29-Oct-22 11:12 AM] gladeowl#0000 Oh. OH! Congrats, lol. [29-Oct-22 11:43 AM] dehzhas#0000 Congrats! [29-Oct-22 11:58 AM] rune_242#0000 Amazing man! Good for you๐Ÿฅณ [29-Oct-22 01:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Good luck! ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Oct-22 11:19 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Thanks for all the good wishes. Second daughter born a couple hours ago, very healthy and doing great. Wife made it look easy {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (13) [30-Oct-22 12:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 How I wish I had a daughter, but you have two.๐Ÿ˜ญ [30-Oct-22 02:07 AM] domicius#0000 Congratulations [30-Oct-22 04:29 AM] zipatsu#0000 Congratulations! ๐ŸŽ‰ [30-Oct-22 02:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 Two OOG Haiku winners this time! โœŒ๏ธ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1036355035883393095/unknown.png?ex=68151757&is=6813c5d7&hm=da49bbdf0e2134ee0b4ba1453cdd4ec98e42db3de9cf33fd947186910679d934& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [30-Oct-22 02:05 PM] zipatsu#0000 Looks like there's also a new big contest for a FTL ship with Large Cargo Bay ๐Ÿคž {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1036355264229687347/unknown.png?ex=6815178d&is=6813c60d&hm=218b9309acc53676d9245201473c305da707b2e604114a1a95e006a9e8f79bee& [31-Oct-22 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 Benten's CX price fluctuates seriously. [31-Oct-22 08:27 PM] exeler#0000 Woah, you can buy a whole CX in Benten? They must have some wild construction capacity for that. [31-Oct-22 08:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 Benten's price is sometimes very different In a day or two., and I can't understand the transaction price, so it is suitable for people with energy to make money with it. If I have more liquidity, I will put a lot of purchase orders there. [31-Oct-22 08:34 PM] yuen8241#0000 The price difference between Benten and ANT sometimes causes the profit to reach 30% or even more. [31-Oct-22 08:37 PM] yuen8241#0000 Now, the price of HRT is relatively stable, and it is suitable for bulk trading. [31-Oct-22 08:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 Generally speaking, it is suitable to buy DW, RAT, COF ๏ผŒALE, FIM, GIN and OVE in HRT. suitable for buying KOM in HRT [01-Nov-22 09:37 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Joined the server. [01-Nov-22 09:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh welcome! I've certainly seen your name around quite a bit [01-Nov-22 09:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 The premier drinking water provider ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Nov-22 09:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 [01-Nov-22 09:40 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Hello, yes Allocater sent me and invite and I thought I would check out the place. [01-Nov-22 09:40 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Not in the DW business these days but I do make lots of BSE and just started on Rfabs [01-Nov-22 09:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah excellent, they are both in high demand around these parts [01-Nov-22 09:44 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 My current planning is start on afabs for an electronics base and then some ship part construction, maybe some engines, I made a handful on ENG in the last universe {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Nov-22 09:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Well check out the #welcome and #rules-faq channel, and let us know if you have any questions. I imagine Allocater chatted with you a bit already [01-Nov-22 09:47 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Cool, thanks [01-Nov-22 10:07 PM] balbar#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [02-Nov-22 01:42 AM] allocater#0000 [02-Nov-22 01:43 AM] allocater#0000 perfect we just wanted to get more into rfab and afab production again [02-Nov-22 06:14 AM] zipatsu#0000 [02-Nov-22 07:25 AM] gladeowl#0000 Stupid Question. What happens if you bought stuff on the CX, it got filled but you didn't have an inventory there. Ships or Warehouses. A friend of mine is in this pickle right now and we can't really find where the stuff could be. [02-Nov-22 07:26 AM] _bojidar#0000 It stays as contract till you get it [02-Nov-22 07:26 AM] gladeowl#0000 We just found it lol. Thanks! [02-Nov-22 07:26 AM] _bojidar#0000 No problem [02-Nov-22 07:53 AM] Deleted User#0000 [02-Nov-22 07:53 AM] Deleted User#0000 @mrtcsmith Very cool to see you in our chat Respected your dedication to provide DW to Harmonia I have an order for some b-fabs if you can handle it [02-Nov-22 10:05 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [02-Nov-22 10:08 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome! And perfect timing with the Rfabs, I just tore down my Rfab production so hopefully you can help out with corp demand! We have a corp spreadsheet with everyone's prices/bases if you need anything. If you have any questions, let us know! Cheers [02-Nov-22 10:44 AM] churavis#0000 I've got Afabs in stock if you need. [02-Nov-22 12:07 PM] exeler#0000 [02-Nov-22 12:08 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Sure, let me know what you need I have 14 PP2 on Nike doing BSE and BBH. BDE aren't profitable in a PP2. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ [02-Nov-22 12:10 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Definitely will be able to help out. I will fill in the spreadsheet sometime today. [02-Nov-22 12:12 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Thanks, I have had buys on the CX while I do other things so I will be in touch. [02-Nov-22 12:13 PM] churavis#0000 Do you make your own EPO or PG? Thats been the bottleneck for Rfabs recently. [02-Nov-22 12:15 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah, I have a base on Griffonstone for EPO, PG and TCL [03-Nov-22 10:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 Tux and I have a shipping contract that was sent to the wrong place. If we terminate the contract, will the goods appear in my inventory? (Then I can just sell them back for 1 AIC?) [03-Nov-22 10:50 AM] churavis#0000 Yes, terminated contracts unspool the provisioned goods in whatever inventory they happen to be in {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Nov-22 11:27 AM] allocater#0000 I locked my ship for 2 days for flying from the system edge to deimos ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Nov-22 11:28 AM] churavis#0000 Wouldn't it be faster to send it to a different system and back? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Nov-22 11:43 AM] allocater#0000 yeah, I only read 2h, sounded good to me, later noticed it was 2 days 2h ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Nov-22 12:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Harmonia to my fluorine gas giant has that issue. I was never able to make a in-out jump that was faster, although I fiddled with it for a while. [03-Nov-22 12:18 PM] allocater#0000 harmonia also has no short jumps out [03-Nov-22 12:53 PM] churavis#0000 It should be an option to use FTL for intersystem travel [03-Nov-22 01:07 PM] allocater#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBbfdxDk6U&t=62s {Embed} Kadajiroth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBbfdxDk6U&start=62 Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - Defiant's In-System Warp To stop a changeling (disguised as Julian Bashir) from detonating a bomb that would cause a supernova within the Bajoran star, Jadzia Dax and Major Kira aboard the Defiant perform a warp within the star system, enabling them use the tractor beam on the renegade runabout. From episode 15 of season five, "By Inferno's Light." [ I DO NOT OWN THIS... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XobS3FjwzAbafO6GNqwZ_vV4V3cqfFJlX-a9lxsnCUw/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/HPBbfdxDk6U/maxresdefault.jpg [04-Nov-22 08:25 AM] dehzhas#0000 Don't forget to vote for the next planet to name: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216 Name THAT Planet Round 7 Itโ€™s been a hot minute since our last planet was named, but nowโ€™s your opportunity to get your favorite planet a brand spanking new moniker. Here are the planets from last time that we talked about. I have not checked to see if all of them are still unnamed, but I will before posting the poll. If you know that some are definitely named then you ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [04-Nov-22 08:26 AM] dehzhas#0000 I might suggest you do QJ-650c since @allocater wants that one [04-Nov-22 09:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah me too! QJ-650c! [04-Nov-22 10:20 AM] churavis#0000 Had anyone posted in that planets in game chat too? [04-Nov-22 10:22 AM] jackinabox86#0000 We won the last round because we voted together. We all need to vote for QJ-650c now and then we can do an internal vote on the name options later (I will support Midas and Allocater!) [04-Nov-22 11:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 Just posted in the planet chat [04-Nov-22 01:57 PM] sginga#0000 Bored and working on a 2d map using parsecs as the scale. I would have thought it would be more interconnected than larger circular connections ๐Ÿ˜ฎ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1038165070846365726/unknown.png?ex=68151591&is=6813c411&hm=5d441a8183bbd12b4088bfe700e0592e7667d1cd0dd04bc6fcae105d02d82f01& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿคฉ (4) [04-Nov-22 01:59 PM] dehzhas#0000 Yeah, me too. I noticed I had to go the long way around on some of my routes when they were really close otherwise. This makes it clear why. Interesting. [04-Nov-22 02:04 PM] churavis#0000 http://prosperous.freecluster.eu/?i=1 [04-Nov-22 02:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, following in the tradition of eve online, the in-game map is pretty useless [04-Nov-22 02:27 PM] churavis#0000 Realism and utility are often at odds [04-Nov-22 02:28 PM] allocater#0000 shots fired at star citizen ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Nov-22 02:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 The desire to make a pretty 3D map and utility are often at odds [04-Nov-22 02:41 PM] sginga#0000 I like the radial design of this one ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [04-Nov-22 04:27 PM] dehzhas#0000 We are currently tied for first on the name that planet contest: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216/16 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216/16 Name THAT Planet Round 7 How about the DW System planets getting names from the Doctor Who series; start with DW-419a as โ€˜โ€˜New Gallifreyโ€™โ€™. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [04-Nov-22 04:47 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Winning now [04-Nov-22 05:02 PM] churavis#0000 We are winning over a planet with 4 times the population and 4 times as many bases {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž (2) [04-Nov-22 07:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 @everyone time to vote! We have been undefeated so far! [04-Nov-22 07:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 If we have to get the retirees back we will! [04-Nov-22 09:32 PM] Deleted User#0000 @sginga Using your graphic as my desktop background. It's a great reference [05-Nov-22 05:02 AM] domicius#0000 Which planet are we voting for? [05-Nov-22 05:04 AM] allocater#0000 the one in the planet list <- that doesn't have a real name ๐Ÿ˜‰ [05-Nov-22 05:04 AM] allocater#0000 gotta catch'em all! [05-Nov-22 09:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1038467336593739846/image.png?ex=6814dd92&is=68138c12&hm=73c4090e9253080e272af9464b2c6e76869dbc240593c3625c4db79fa8fa9e53& [05-Nov-22 09:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 My 20,000 DW finally arrived. It seems that this scalper hasn't sold many DWs yet. [05-Nov-22 10:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I will follow him closely and see if he has the capital to eat all my DW. [05-Nov-22 10:01 AM] churavis#0000 Can I buy 2k of that? [05-Nov-22 10:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 No problem, trade at ANT [05-Nov-22 10:09 AM] domicius#0000 I voted {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ [05-Nov-22 10:36 AM] allocater#0000 just in time, my 10k wall is gone [05-Nov-22 01:07 PM] dehzhas#0000 I have another 2k that will arrive later today to add some more buffer [07-Nov-22 10:59 AM] dehzhas#0000 We are losing now: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216/15 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-7/5216/15 Name THAT Planet Round 7 qq-001a is my vote. jsdiofjsdfsdh https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [07-Nov-22 12:50 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah there was talk about it in global chat yesterday. [07-Nov-22 12:53 PM] churavis#0000 In game? [07-Nov-22 01:13 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah [07-Nov-22 01:20 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1039257983311425576/image.png?ex=68151aeb&is=6813c96b&hm=abade54ea6e38bc451f70cf51d9bc1278040a5a8201c289a16368a44f60f39f2& [07-Nov-22 01:26 PM] churavis#0000 I was worried that someone might wonder why QJ-650c is getting way more votes than it has bases but no one seems to have bothered to check. [07-Nov-22 01:27 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 There is no rule that says you need a base is there? [07-Nov-22 01:29 PM] churavis#0000 No, there's no rule, it's just kind of suspicious and makes it seem like some large corporation is trying to rig the vote by getting all its members to go for just one planet... [07-Nov-22 01:30 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Large corps rigging things to their advantage isn't new [07-Nov-22 01:32 PM] churavis#0000 That's basically the point of a large corp, right? [07-Nov-22 01:33 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Exactly and it's a social game after all, working together is part of the game [07-Nov-22 01:37 PM] churavis#0000 I still don't know how the optics of it would come out, though [07-Nov-22 01:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Speaking large corps, I think the 7 day trial is up for MrTCSmith, GladeOwl, Zogii (and sginga, who slipped in early ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) [07-Nov-22 01:45 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Probably not too bad, try taking over the CUO supply of the galaxy and it could be a little worse ๐Ÿคฃ [07-Nov-22 01:47 PM] churavis#0000 How would you take over supply of a specific resource? [07-Nov-22 01:47 PM] exeler#0000 Buy all the offers on the CX? [07-Nov-22 01:49 PM] churavis#0000 You didn't see how we hamstrung that DW scalper? [07-Nov-22 01:50 PM] exeler#0000 I mean, we could do it better. Imagine if we all coordinated to be the scalper. [07-Nov-22 01:51 PM] exeler#0000 Also picking DW for that kind of move is basically suicide. [07-Nov-22 01:52 PM] churavis#0000 You couldn't get away with it for long, after a day or two smelters and traders would bring in more until you run out of warehouse space. [07-Nov-22 01:53 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Taxes. There weren't many CUO planets in the last universe. So we picked a planet each and created a base, if there wasn't and ADM we built one, the rest corp plants bases on the CUO planets at the same time and votes for one of their own. The winner then raises taxes on everything so it becomes unprofitable to mine CUO for anyone outside the corp. [07-Nov-22 01:56 PM] exeler#0000 That's amazing. I'd love for this game to have more ways to do things like this. Imagine if access to planet infrastructure (and therefore workers) depended on something like faction standing and how much influence a faction had on the planet. Take over a planet and restrict foreign faction's ability to do business there. [07-Nov-22 01:57 PM] churavis#0000 Only if you want to make it really difficult for anyone in this corp to win any future elections on any planet [07-Nov-22 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 That does sound pretty fun ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Nov-22 01:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 We could run shadow candidates [07-Nov-22 01:58 PM] churavis#0000 I feel like some corp tried that before? [07-Nov-22 02:00 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Only a few players reacted really badly, it was mostly viewed as a funny inconvenience. The high taxes only lasted a week or two and commerce has a short memory so there were no real lasting impacts. [08-Nov-22 03:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 We can frantically sell AUO to cx at mm price, but it needs a lot of capacity. [08-Nov-22 02:05 PM] exeler#0000 I think selling aggressively into the CX would be good for basically everyone though. If someone did that for a good I needed, I'd probably just stop making it myself and buy it all since it's at the cheapest it can possibly be. [08-Nov-22 08:15 PM] legosfreak#0000 I'm still a semi new player to this game so I have a question. On the population overview for the base there is the required workforce, then there is the current workforce. What is the Parenthesis next to the current work force? I have 980 current workforce with 380 in parenthesis. [08-Nov-22 08:16 PM] churavis#0000 Just to be clear, non-semi new players are allowed to ask questions too [08-Nov-22 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think non-new players can also ask questions. [08-Nov-22 08:18 PM] churavis#0000 The number in parenthesis are the workers that you are currently pulling from the workforce reserve pool, or the workers available before the next POPR. You can only pull so many of them, depending on the size of the population and the local rules [08-Nov-22 08:18 PM] legosfreak#0000 Ahh ok that makes sense. Just expanded and that would be why [08-Nov-22 08:18 PM] churavis#0000 Is there an echo in here? [08-Nov-22 08:20 PM] legosfreak#0000 lol only said that because I know most of the things about this game, but some of the more intricate stuff still goes over my head. [08-Nov-22 08:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 I only saw that figure when I built/expanded the base. [09-Nov-22 01:45 PM] gladeowl#0000 What are the rules/requirements for inviting somebody? [09-Nov-22 01:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 talk to @yjhasaday, he runs recruitment. Requirements are pretty light, particularly if you know the person. Generally speaking they get invited to the discord for a week trial and then as long as they aren't unbelievably corrupt or obtuse, they get invited in game and get the meager dividend. [09-Nov-22 01:52 PM] churavis#0000 Probably lighter than they should be [09-Nov-22 05:32 PM] Deleted User#0000 I have had a lot of work with school recently, and I didn't really have much to give to you guys because of the lack of time and dedication I've had for PrUn in the past few months. I didn't really have any massive responsibilities for the corp specifically aside from 2 UPF, which I think can be easily replaced. Thanks everyone for giving me something to do during the summer. Not sure if I'm to leave this server or not, but that's all. I didn't really have much to give back either, resources down, consumables out, again because of school and other things going on. Good luck with all of your companies! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค— (4) ๐Ÿ–– (3) [09-Nov-22 05:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Good luck with school [09-Nov-22 06:34 PM] Deleted User#0000 Really cool chatting with you. Good luck with the studies. [10-Nov-22 11:07 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Good luck, all the best! [10-Nov-22 11:09 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yeah, as @jackinabox86 laid out we're pretty chill about new recruits. Really the main thing we care about is that they are active, and if they quit the game, they leave OOG first - we can't kick them out until their company liquidates. Why don't you give me your friend's company info and I can reach out and start a chat with them? [11-Nov-22 07:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Wow, what a pleasant surprise to see this evening [11-Nov-22 07:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-11_19-50-22.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-11_19-50-22.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SnaxMJ_3wNQNkYOOMf2sy_ns3EEnLLe8y4vlmt542fw/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-11_19-50-22.png [11-Nov-22 07:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 both of those orders were for MEAs [11-Nov-22 07:51 PM] churavis#0000 That's a big chunk of change [11-Nov-22 07:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wonder what they even do with that many scientists [11-Nov-22 07:54 PM] churavis#0000 I'll bet its for a software base on Phobos that they don't want to have to think about much [11-Nov-22 09:26 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 They looking to keep it going all year? That's low maintenance [11-Nov-22 09:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Honestly the same person buys pretty large amounts regularly from me. This was just the most I'd ever listed at once. [12-Nov-22 03:24 AM] domicius#0000 Yes, it's SW. I need large amounts of MEA too - more soon too if I expand my SW to meet @allocater demand! [12-Nov-22 07:47 AM] domicius#0000 Pro-tip: if you want a set of contracts grouped together in the contract drafts window for convenience, and the aren't right now, just copy all the relevant contracts and delete the originals. This way they'll all be together. [12-Nov-22 07:47 AM] domicius#0000 Pro-tip2: put the user's name in the contract title to make it easier to fill in later. [12-Nov-22 07:49 AM] domicius#0000 Pro-tip3: when sending contracts for large quantities, split it into several smaller contracts and just press send a few extra times. This will make the whole thing easier to handle. [12-Nov-22 07:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 I really hope Allocater will do this, so that I don't have to submit a large number of goods at once. [12-Nov-22 07:53 AM] allocater#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… you mean you don't like my contracts for 5 cargo bays at once? ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Nov-22 07:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, because I usually don't stock so many goods and raw materials. If you inform me in advance, I wouldn't be in such a hurry.๐Ÿคฃ [12-Nov-22 07:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 Your MSL should be produced on schedule, but my ZR is not enough for MFL, and Balbar is still producing it. [12-Nov-22 07:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 However, in the future, this situation can be alleviated with the increase of my funds, and I can reserve more raw materials in advance. [12-Nov-22 08:43 AM] allocater#0000 Is's ok, it's the demand for every 2 weeks. SKF still has the most idle time. [12-Nov-22 10:04 AM] churavis#0000 How much for a WCB and MFL then? [12-Nov-22 12:10 PM] allocater#0000 300k and 150k [12-Nov-22 12:33 PM] allocater#0000 if you want it on deimos you have to intercept from yuen, my stores are on heph {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Nov-22 12:34 PM] churavis#0000 SSC and BHP too? [12-Nov-22 12:35 PM] allocater#0000 yes, or intercept from rune and exeler [12-Nov-22 12:35 PM] allocater#0000 maybe we should do parallel shipbuilding on deimos ๐Ÿค” [12-Nov-22 12:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 You have to do too much. No doubling up! [12-Nov-22 03:59 PM] churavis#0000 I would say either keep it on Heph or move the finished goods stockpile to ANT if you need more area on heph [13-Nov-22 05:07 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/4th-big-haiku-contest/5229/20 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/4th-big-haiku-contest/5229/20 4th big haiku contest poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mAvaVx_8QGvc5Nf7Mjl8Xc5smRzNhvmB-p86AtxAO_M/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a07f4343d987b7694c9f9a5818119c03abf4b5bf.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [13-Nov-22 05:07 AM] zipatsu#0000 Looks like 3 of us made it into the voting round ๐Ÿคž [13-Nov-22 08:12 AM] churavis#0000 Who's Haiku do we want to rally around? [13-Nov-22 10:24 AM] allocater#0000 probably zipatsu because it's in the lead ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-22 04:10 AM] zipatsu#0000 To be honest I thought yours would be an easy win for sure, it rhymes so well [14-Nov-22 11:15 AM] dehzhas#0000 Hehe... to late to plug for mine eh? [14-Nov-22 11:15 AM] dehzhas#0000 Papa wants a new boat, lol [14-Nov-22 01:12 PM] sir_deplorable#0000 Joined the server. [14-Nov-22 01:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 [14-Nov-22 01:16 PM] gladeowl#0000 [14-Nov-22 01:19 PM] allocater#0000 [14-Nov-22 01:30 PM] zipatsu#0000 [14-Nov-22 03:54 PM] Deleted User#0000 [14-Nov-22 05:23 PM] exeler#0000 [14-Nov-22 05:56 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [14-Nov-22 05:56 PM] megasaberexe#0000 [14-Nov-22 07:49 PM] balbar#0000 [14-Nov-22 07:51 PM] yuen8241#0000 [14-Nov-22 09:52 PM] erklein#0000 Anyone make MGS or MG? Looking to replenish my supply [15-Nov-22 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's cheap to buy MG from benten, so there's no need to make it yourself. [15-Nov-22 03:44 AM] rune_242#0000 or you could buy from @archielvahr [15-Nov-22 06:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, check the CX for quantities available of MG and MGS, and send a contract at the corp price. (MGS @ 100, MG @ 60) [15-Nov-22 07:10 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 Hi all; I run Lambda Industries off of Harmonia which is so far spec'd into Carbon, PE, and very light BDE production...also forgot to introduce myself yesterday lol [15-Nov-22 07:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 Welcome! Please check the rules and fill out the form. We are glad to have new members join us. If you have financing needs or wish to get sponsorship, please pay attention to OOG Bank Channel and Base Sponsorship Channel. [15-Nov-22 07:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 Since you can already produce BDE and PE, I guess you have bases in nike and Heph. [15-Nov-22 07:27 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 Actually my only base is Harmonia at the moment. Still kind of new to PU [15-Nov-22 07:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 Then I suggest you expand to other planets. BMP and PP1 can be built in Heph and Nike, respectively. That's how I expanded before. PE and bde sell well. [15-Nov-22 07:31 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 Im currently working with Exeler to expand a Hydrogen base at the moment as my first new base. [15-Nov-22 07:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 Generally, I don't recommend new players to build base H, except in cx's galaxy. Transportation is a big problem, and the upfront investment is also big. To tell the truth, most of the BMP formulas of Heph are very profitable now, but it takes a lot of energy to pay attention to the market, which is very suitable for you. [15-Nov-22 07:42 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 The base is completely funded by Exeler through advanced contract payments and the daily upkeep of the base is low enough to have it running without issues for a while. [15-Nov-22 07:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you don't have VBC, the produced H will not be shipped out unless you build an H base in the planetary system of cx. [15-Nov-22 07:48 AM] gladeowl#0000 VBC? [15-Nov-22 07:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 1000t/3000mยณ cargo ship [15-Nov-22 07:48 AM] gladeowl#0000 ohhh [15-Nov-22 07:51 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 The shipments are 800 H for every 8 days. But I can do 500 H per trip instead. [15-Nov-22 07:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042074509609541642/image.png?ex=6814ce03&is=68137c83&hm=62f5f058554e7ad57d23bdd06c64f03a9d0aacffc13631cbe7dea5750049265a& [15-Nov-22 07:53 AM] gladeowl#0000 1.8 mil 0.0 [15-Nov-22 07:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 I calculate according to the limit, to be honest, it don't earn as much as BMP, and it consumes too much ship capacity. [15-Nov-22 07:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042075277636943942/image.png?ex=6814cebb&is=68137d3b&hm=4dc3c96ff20ceb2e1ee10ca9d8d2308adf349049d5e71c996c50fb5710b2dd8c& [15-Nov-22 07:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you choose to build in cx, and reduce the capacity consumption, your income will be reduced. [15-Nov-22 07:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 The good news is that cx's H base can be maintained only by one STL boat. For those who don't like to rely on cx for trading, around 500 H is enough for several people. [15-Nov-22 08:01 AM] gladeowl#0000 Oh. You can upgrade an existing ship, right? How much is it for the VBC upgrade? [15-Nov-22 08:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 VBC is not suitable for upgrading, because the cost of upgrading is close to buying a new one. VBC is about more than 3.5 million AIC. [15-Nov-22 08:04 AM] gladeowl#0000 Oh boy. [15-Nov-22 08:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 Rune plans to build an H base. He booked a VBC, but to be honest, this is not suitable for newcomers. After calculating the ship, the investment is high and the output is low. This is to improve the industrial chain and serve Corp. [15-Nov-22 08:05 AM] gladeowl#0000 hmhm. [15-Nov-22 08:34 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 Thanks for the info! Will definitely have to draw up new ideas with this information in mind {Reactions} blob_no ๐Ÿคก [15-Nov-22 08:41 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Let the man play the game. An H base is great. Plenty of demand and with our cheap fabs and other auppprt, heโ€™ll have lots of bases in no time. Also, some of us are willing to fly out to pick up H from others bases. Where there is a will, there is a way [15-Nov-22 08:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 It doesn't matter. I'm just making suggestions, and he will make the decision in the end. I think it would be helpful for him to know more information. Anyway, it's a good thing to get the sponsorship of an H base, which is much better than my starting point. [15-Nov-22 09:05 AM] churavis#0000 That's 3 or 4 industries and the opposite of specialization [15-Nov-22 09:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 ANT's pe price is outrageous, and the PE I tentatively sold was actually sold. [15-Nov-22 09:14 AM] allocater#0000 yes, I don't understand PE and PG price, C and H are now cheap, so lots of people should produce PE/PG [15-Nov-22 10:53 AM] domicius#0000 I'm making PE right now on phobos. Soon moving it to Nike, but I can fill some orders [15-Nov-22 11:00 AM] yjhasaday#0000 [15-Nov-22 11:04 AM] yjhasaday#0000 @sir_deplorable Welcome! Any questions so far? In case you missed it OOG runs a re-fueling program for all members so be sure to take advantage! Just post a LM buy ad for the fuel you need @ 8/u (SF and FF) on either ANT, Nike, or Deimos and one of our fuel makers will pick it up. You can post in the fuel ops channel when you make the ad so that we're aware of it ๐Ÿ™‚ happy trading! {Reactions} thonk [15-Nov-22 07:29 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042250086475907183/image.png?ex=6814c8c8&is=68137748&hm=9743a9bb9378576e0444975c6f9557d71434a980c738b78125cbd5e50fac4946& [15-Nov-22 07:30 PM] yuen8241#0000 more and more taxes. [15-Nov-22 07:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 I estimate that nearly half of them are collected by phobos. [15-Nov-22 08:08 PM] legosfreak#0000 Could I get some help on the Excel sheet. Need to move down the inactive players to add my own pricing on harmonia. Sorry, bad with editing excel sheets without screwing them up ๐Ÿ˜… [15-Nov-22 08:10 PM] balbar#0000 I added some more lines to the price sheet [15-Nov-22 08:16 PM] legosfreak#0000 Thanks [16-Nov-22 01:58 AM] sir_deplorable#0000 Thanks! No questions at the moment though I'm pretty sure I will have some more in the near future. [16-Nov-22 03:05 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Could I get an invite in-game for that sweet HQ bonus? [16-Nov-22 03:06 PM] churavis#0000 Are you worthy to call yourself an Ooga Booger? [16-Nov-22 03:06 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I am worthy [16-Nov-22 03:09 PM] churavis#0000 Are you willing to proudly tell all your friends and families that you are an Ooga Booger [16-Nov-22 03:10 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I will build a Planetary Broadcast Hub and tell the worlds [16-Nov-22 03:18 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Sent! I think I went to invite you last week but you were part of another corp? If not, sorry for delay [16-Nov-22 03:22 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah I was still part of GDP, thanks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [17-Nov-22 12:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now we have more and more members and planets. Can the price table be changed to focus on the product, with the price and delivery place marked at the back? [17-Nov-22 12:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 If there are few planets where our members are located, the present form is very appropriate. [17-Nov-22 01:01 AM] balbar#0000 Yeah, sorting by product would be more convenient [17-Nov-22 01:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think vertical columns can be arranged according to product types. A big category is placed in a nearby position, and common consumables, luxury consumables and Fabs are written in the front. [17-Nov-22 01:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042698471548932116/image.png?ex=681518e0&is=6813c760&hm=96dfa2ec0bfb4d7cab19a8d9117254c38022db50b85309f9b8c99ee0aee67adb& [17-Nov-22 01:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Like this [17-Nov-22 01:13 AM] yuen8241#0000 Or we can set up a special page for each category, so that people who want to buy things can find suppliers quickly. [17-Nov-22 01:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 Like consumables, building materials, raw materials for production. [17-Nov-22 01:15 AM] allocater#0000 start the sheet-tab you want to see in the world! ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Nov-22 01:18 AM] allocater#0000 not sure if this works, but you can change it ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Nov-22 01:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042702717874864208/image.png?ex=68151cd4&is=6813cb54&hm=5d2884f9f52888535a11e5ec69a449d4ba35eb44c26c36426a5ef8b2f4a6a18f& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Nov-22 01:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think it's quite clear. [17-Nov-22 01:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1042707169046438009/image.png?ex=681520f9&is=6813cf79&hm=0b4403efeffc3a0d9e88d33c6f87da55821d2d8c39b41a6be160d4c04564e680& [17-Nov-22 01:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 Then we can see who is the supplier by screening items, even if the number of people is large, and we can also compare the supply location and price. [17-Nov-22 02:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 I set up three pages, namely Consumables Priceใ€Base material Priceใ€ raw material Price [17-Nov-22 02:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 Consumables Price is used to retrieve suppliers of required consumables, Base material Price is used to retrieve suppliers when bases are Building, and raw material Price is used to retrieve suppliers of basic raw materials and intermediate products in complex industrial chains. [17-Nov-22 02:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think it's easier for users to find suppliers and compare prices and locations. In the long run, we can also help integrate the industrial chains of our members, especially in some complex industries. [17-Nov-22 06:46 AM] gladeowl#0000 I like it. *though the columns could be a bit wider, it gets hard to read after 2 planets* [17-Nov-22 06:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 My main consideration is that I can quickly turn to the required product list and then search it. Of course, we can also choose to wrap the text automatically. [17-Nov-22 07:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 I didn't include the products related to shipbuilding and infrastructure maintenance in this table, because there are too many products with strong professionalism, and only the commonly used ones are kept. [17-Nov-22 07:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 Of course, I may have forgot something . Welcome to improve and supplement it. [17-Nov-22 07:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 I also didn't add fuel-related information, because there is a special channel, and the price and location are clear. [17-Nov-22 09:20 AM] exeler#0000 Now if only sheets could have a handy search bar that filtered products, planets, and/or people {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [17-Nov-22 01:01 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I don't know, ctrl-f has always served me just fine {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [17-Nov-22 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 I added a search tool: [17-Nov-22 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-17_14-09-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-17_14-09-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SKSZY0bv-aCXGbqpok7eI_68dcx8asLY9-dDxpn3NBA/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-11-17_14-09-11.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (3) [17-Nov-22 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Just put in your material in that box at the top and it lists the prices, planet, and user [17-Nov-22 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 .... hopefully it executes properly for everyone, let me know if it doesn't [17-Nov-22 10:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1043014841759170601/image.png?ex=6814ee04&is=68139c84&hm=458e596dbd1b41b1bcbba1c0958702e74246b7a3b5a53355a92922557f29aa18& [17-Nov-22 10:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 He's been stoped by us for a long time.๐Ÿคฃ [17-Nov-22 10:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 I really hope he bought all my DW at once. [18-Nov-22 12:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1043056845645951037/image.png?ex=68151523&is=6813c3a3&hm=8527ca113322ef3038176384077453a3e35a95b99ceef40fb19bf414acfe37ee& [18-Nov-22 12:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think this form can still be used like this to express the demand of long-term production and see who can meet it. This is helpful to determine the demand before making investment for Corp. [18-Nov-22 01:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 In addition, I added a table of consumables for scientists [18-Nov-22 01:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 @balbar You want FLX on deimos? [18-Nov-22 01:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have 869 FLX there. I don't produce AL or FE now. I can sell you 60AIC each. [18-Nov-22 01:19 AM] balbar#0000 I'd take a 100. i have about a 10day supply right now, but more is of course appreciated. I mainly put it on the list because i don't produce it myself and import all i need.I put out a ad on the LM [18-Nov-22 01:33 AM] yuen8241#0000 The output of flx is too high. I accidentally produced more than 1,000 before, but I never used them up. [18-Nov-22 01:30 PM] dehzhas#0000 He really has a lot of capital tied up in this. Meanwhile, my DW keeps moving quickly in the high 70's per unit [18-Nov-22 01:30 PM] churavis#0000 He's probably got a ton of capital as he's been a member for a long time [18-Nov-22 01:50 PM] allocater#0000 we are now committed to provide DW for lower than 79.89 forever ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Nov-22 01:56 PM] dehzhas#0000 It's a sacrifice I am willing to make ๐Ÿ™‚ [18-Nov-22 01:58 PM] churavis#0000 Maybe the real prize was the enemies we made along the way {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (7) [18-Nov-22 08:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Anyone ever chat with User Dyncommon, Company: Calorie Cache Company? We've been picking eachother's LM ads and CX ads for a week or so, I might ask if they're interested in joining OOG [19-Nov-22 02:21 AM] allocater#0000 no, but go for it [19-Nov-22 06:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 Benten's DW has gone up so high that I don't want to ship it back to ANT for sale. [19-Nov-22 06:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 The FF price of HRT has risen to 17 [20-Nov-22 09:48 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Haha partially my fault! Like a week ago I bought your entire stock at CX (plus much more). Sometimes I just go and buy a ton of DW/RAT at once ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Not the first I've done this either lol I think last time @allocater accused me of being the problem with DW prices ๐Ÿ˜… [20-Nov-22 02:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 No reply from him yet via in-game coms. And he's not on the UFO discord [20-Nov-22 06:28 PM] rune_242#0000 nice dividend payout {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) ๐Ÿ’ฐ (5) [21-Nov-22 10:11 AM] yjhasaday#0000 That's kinda concerning. We've always been pretty relaxed about the criteria for recruitment into OOG but the most important requirement has always been activity/communication and engagement in the game. When I recruit I generally try to have some back-and-forth with them to make sure they're responsive, then I ask them about their expansion plans - the response doesn't really matter (because OOG can always use more of... everything lol) but the more enthusiastic they are the better the sign that they will continue playing. I feel like this wouldn't be as important if they would just let us kick inactive people from the corp already..... ๐Ÿ˜ฌ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [21-Nov-22 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I dislike the in-game coms, I think it's very hard to notice when you get a private message in game. I definitely prefer discord, but if he's not interested in discord, he's probably just not a good match. Haven't heard a peep, so hard to know! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข [21-Nov-22 01:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 ```Use the code TRKY10 to get 10% off any PRO license subscription option. This code is only valid for PRO license purchases.``` for anyone looking at renewing {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Nov-22 10:40 PM] dehzhas#0000 @archielvahr where was your spreadsheet with base counts? [21-Nov-22 10:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=101180624 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Deimos,Harmonia,Nike,Griffonstone,Antares II G,QJ-382g,Hephaestus,IY-206i,IY-206j,KI-439b,KI-840C,Etherwind,Demeter,Nascent,QJ-650c,Norwick,QJ-382c,Ice Station Alpha # OF BASES >>,13,18,16,16,11,1,4,10,2,2,2,4,13,3 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, or... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xeg-DU3exPRl5HrR3Mj6Hsz7mXxWFXqd0K3qkr4R300/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/PTysxsDsgeo6q2034YXeR9r-rcLewwTVsM_G5yKO8FlndgLGoPSdELfDh43DkFxoAJU-cTi9anUn2Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [21-Nov-22 10:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 scroll down past the player list [21-Nov-22 10:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sheet "Player Activity and Base List" [21-Nov-22 10:45 PM] dehzhas#0000 ahh.... I have to scroll ... lol [21-Nov-22 10:45 PM] dehzhas#0000 PEBKAC {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [23-Nov-22 11:01 AM] yjhasaday#0000 That awkward moment when your fuel stock decides it no longer wants to be fuel and changes to binary {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1045021192794407063/image.png?ex=6814fa53&is=6813a8d3&hm=36845b3ed09ba250705b2b1cf384eef339a6183166916153534d9ddbfb38b5e7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (4) [23-Nov-22 11:02 AM] churavis#0000 That's 31 when translated from binary [24-Nov-22 04:12 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 How is everyone planning their logistics? Just spreadsheets? [24-Nov-22 04:40 PM] dehzhas#0000 Spreadsheets, constantly evolving spreadsheets. [24-Nov-22 04:54 PM] exeler#0000 Planning logistics? I just send ships to resolve whatever thing FIO says I'm running out of. [24-Nov-22 05:01 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I would like to be more proactive and efficient rather than the current reactive approach with having giant stockpiles and a sprinkle of hopes and prayers which doesn't scale well [24-Nov-22 05:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I used to do better with planet to planet trips, now most of my stuff goes back and forth to ANT (except full shiploads of crops, which go to specific FP planets). I made a map to help me plan routes- sometimes I can get a sequence of planets in a trip. Griff -> Nike -> ANT, for example. [24-Nov-22 05:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1045474765617500240/map2.png?ex=6814a680&is=68135500&hm=6a0e42b351dd6cce82c9e31b04ad4bdfcf4c1169810e69e7bdec53f6bac39116& [24-Nov-22 05:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I recommend the maps just for funsies anyway. [24-Nov-22 05:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 But yeah, my approach is basically try to stock 10 days of consumables everywhere. Send ships from ANT to wherever is lowest. If I get sticker shock on KOM or ALE, buy 4 days supply and worry about it later. [24-Nov-22 05:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I kind of set up my planets to maximize logistics. The planet that needs FE/FEO also needs some lightweight gasses. Return trips from my HCC planet would be empty, so I also bring back AUO other heavy ores. [24-Nov-22 05:06 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I aim for 25 days of consumables which I'm finding is more than the 500/500 ship for some planets now [24-Nov-22 05:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't think there's a whole lot of "route optimization" you can generally do in this game though. Many trips are going to be "here's a ship full of nothing but N, or H, or H2O, and it's only got one destination that makes sense" [24-Nov-22 05:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's easy to lean on shipping contracts for mid-size or even fairly large loads. It sucks to try to ship 10m3 of 9 different consumables from ANT to griff, just cause it's so much clicking [24-Nov-22 05:09 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah either multi item shipping contracts or containers would be ideal [24-Nov-22 05:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah definitely. [24-Nov-22 05:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Even just fewer clicks to make a contract would be an improvement. [24-Nov-22 06:49 PM] gladeowl#0000 Was this handmade or was it code. Either way it's really clean. I love it. [24-Nov-22 06:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 Screenshot from here, plus some photoshop: http://prosperous.freecluster.eu/?i=1 [24-Nov-22 06:50 PM] gladeowl#0000 Oh. Neat. [24-Nov-22 06:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Since I have everyone's base placements, it would be cool to automate creating the maps, but I haven't done that [24-Nov-22 06:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 That map is all SVG, but I think it may have been somewhat hand made [24-Nov-22 07:16 PM] gladeowl#0000 I've been working on a auto-populated 3D version of the map with Exeler and Demannu. I underestimated the amount of data for systems and planets FIO can provide lol. [24-Nov-22 07:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cool, what's it written in? [24-Nov-22 07:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Saganaki has a web map in progress [24-Nov-22 07:26 PM] gladeowl#0000 Unity3D with C# [24-Nov-22 07:27 PM] gladeowl#0000 It's meant to be interactable. Clicking on systems, planets, etc. So Unity was picked for easy development. [24-Nov-22 09:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cool, I do Unity work for my day job. ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (2) [26-Nov-22 01:22 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Been working with PCโ€™s for 20 years now and never had this issue I am totally stuck and asking pretty much anyone if they have any idea about the root cause https://reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/z5f6q5/two_pcs_on_different_fuse_boxes_with_surge/ {Embed} https://reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/z5f6q5/two_pcs_on_different_fuse_boxes_with_surge/ r/techsupport - Two PC's on different fuse boxes & with surge prote... 0 votes and 0 comments so far on Reddit [26-Nov-22 01:23 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 TL;DR - Two entirely different pc builds on different sockets and everything turn off about once every two weeks and cant turn them on for 2-3 days then it just worksโ€ฆ [26-Nov-22 01:23 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 If you guys got any ideas to troubleshoot, iโ€™m 1000% all ears. [26-Nov-22 06:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Are you confident with a multimeter? Or do you have a UPS with a voltage display? Wondering if they are undervolted. You'd probably see issues with other stuff in your house, however. [26-Nov-22 06:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 kind of a stretch to have bad mains power if you're somewhere with stable electricity though [26-Nov-22 06:48 PM] zipatsu#0000 That BitSec player suddenly got a ton of votes after 2 weeks of me being in the lead ๐Ÿ˜ญ , not sure if it'll make a difference anymore at this point but if anyone hasn't voted yet I'd be super happy to get yours โœŒ๏ธ https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/4th-big-haiku-contest/5229/20 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/4th-big-haiku-contest/5229/20 4th big haiku contest poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mAvaVx_8QGvc5Nf7Mjl8Xc5smRzNhvmB-p86AtxAO_M/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a07f4343d987b7694c9f9a5818119c03abf4b5bf.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ (4) [26-Nov-22 06:49 PM] zipatsu#0000 Went from 24 voters to 35 pretty much overnight ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Nov-22 06:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Alternate ideas: The surge protectors just suck. The plugboard style ones might not have obvious indicators if they tripped. Some thermal fuses can auto reset after a certain amount of time. [26-Nov-22 06:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 If the power supply on the computer tripped, some of them are reset by unplugging them from the wall, and sliding the voltage slider to 240 then back to 120. (assuming you're in the US) [26-Nov-22 06:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 But yeah, pretty weird for them both to have issues like that. Sounds like a PSU issue if they sorta power on, but you can't get into the bios even. [27-Nov-22 03:31 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Thanks Arch! Yeah I ordered two UPS, unfortunately I donโ€™t have a multi meter available. Was reading about brownouts, which might definitely be a possibility. Iโ€™ll also have an electrician come over next week to check the actual wiring. [27-Nov-22 06:32 AM] domicius#0000 I've added a column to the prod spreadsheet for ANT. [27-Nov-22 06:34 AM] domicius#0000 I've started shipping everything to ANT (since it has infinite storage) so I can provide from there going forwards. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [27-Nov-22 08:06 AM] churavis#0000 I suspect we'll end up needing two columns for ANT [28-Nov-22 01:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 In addition to the other SI balancing changes, they are adding a recipe C + O + SIO => SI (and a variant with FLX too). [28-Nov-22 02:10 PM] domicius#0000 Finally. Better than using AL {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [30-Nov-22 02:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 Search Box can't be used now @archielvahr [30-Nov-22 02:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 I still recommend registering products as vertical columns, so that if a product is offered on multiple planets, you don't have to fill in the vertical columns repeatedly, and you don't have to add the vertical columns constantly because of the increase of planets. [30-Nov-22 10:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Fixed it [30-Nov-22 10:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'm a little inclined to have a vertical list of materials, then people add their name (and locations) if they want to provide it. I think there are more mats in the game than providers of each in our corp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [30-Nov-22 10:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 but I don't have a strong opinion on that [30-Nov-22 10:13 AM] Deleted User#0000 Have been playing a little space-delivery and PvE and PvP game called Hades' Star Might be someone else here might find it interesting. It's on PC and mobile [30-Nov-22 02:07 PM] allocater#0000 you had me at "shared galaxy" ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Dec-22 10:44 PM] churavis#0000 The CX is out of LDE, I keep raising the price but people keep buying it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ต (2) [05-Dec-22 12:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Because NL production is not enough [05-Dec-22 02:10 AM] allocater#0000 once all the PG bases are up, somebody can make a NL base [05-Dec-22 02:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'm going to build one, and my materials are almost ready. [05-Dec-22 02:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 My STL boat can maintain Katoa and Umbra at the same time [05-Dec-22 04:42 AM] rune_242#0000 RAT is at 150/u๐Ÿ˜ฎ [05-Dec-22 04:46 AM] balbar#0000 I dropped 800 in at 80..already gone ๐Ÿคฏ [05-Dec-22 04:46 AM] rune_242#0000 I had a stock on norwic of 10k but I can't sell because I need it myself๐Ÿ˜… [05-Dec-22 05:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049289981996318760/image.png?ex=6814aff2&is=68135e72&hm=ccf7d81c0666cd9ad8145382c76690e2b02d8023a6561c8fad32ba95929e8964& [05-Dec-22 05:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'll ship it back in a few days. [05-Dec-22 05:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now I put 4k RAT in cx. [05-Dec-22 05:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 I basically bring back thousands of rats every three days.๐Ÿ˜… It seems that it has entered the cycle of RAT rising and DW falling. [05-Dec-22 09:02 AM] churavis#0000 We're going to need more SET for that and I have a feeling SET are going to be in short supply for a while... [05-Dec-22 09:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 Does he have more chips?๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049534931140886548/image.png?ex=6814eb53&is=681399d3&hm=5f223b13d7885865ccabea59cec6e0bdd445b0ed07e4f1f94c0c6223719be7f1& [05-Dec-22 10:15 PM] dehzhas#0000 I have no idea ... he keeps occasionally buying up a new lower position on the market. It's reached the point now where I'm starting to feel the pain of margin loss at this point ๐Ÿ˜ญ - not much pain, my margins on the CX ares till good, but all the same [05-Dec-22 10:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 message him and offer to bulk buy it at like 66/u ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Dec-22 10:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 woaah RATs are at 110/u??? [05-Dec-22 10:17 PM] dehzhas#0000 I'm pretty sure DW is headed for a crash at this point no matter what I do. The volume has ramped up massively. [06-Dec-22 12:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 This is a cyclical decline. I'm going to store more DW this time to prevent the next price increase. Now DW's profit has dropped to only about two-thirds of that before. [06-Dec-22 02:24 AM] balbar#0000 still saying it's producing SI...I wonder if it will change once the queued job is done {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049602196695691324/image.png?ex=681529f8&is=6813d878&hm=ba6c728cb80667262775fffb2a136a6039780e8b5f38ff317eedf1abfd1ca359& [06-Dec-22 02:46 AM] allocater#0000 we could have queued month worth of the old recipe! ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Dec-22 02:46 AM] allocater#0000 https://youtu.be/HTHj_pvEYYE {Embed} melodysheep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHj_pvEYYE THE SIGHTS OF SPACE: A Voyage to Spectacular Alien Worlds Support my work: http://patreon.com/melodysheep. Soundtrack: https://melodysheep.bandcamp.com/album/the-sights-of-space-original-soundtrack If you could visit anywhere in the galaxy, where would you go? Meet the Navis III: An imaginary ship that will take you anywhere in the Milky Way. Its maiden voyage will send you on a tour of the wildest ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UjOO5KFaKHLXgZRJyfMC5I7wD0fLBjXzQtMOSKsfiLg/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/HTHj_pvEYYE/maxresdefault.jpg [06-Dec-22 03:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 Did you get the faction contract? Interesting. [06-Dec-22 03:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049623379751227422/image.png?ex=681494f2&is=68134372&hm=5518fc90ed654b5526da7aeb31146c53559bb370558864a3186ce59fabe365ad& [06-Dec-22 03:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 This task is not suitable for me.๐Ÿ˜… [06-Dec-22 03:50 AM] balbar#0000 i at least haven't got one yet [06-Dec-22 05:41 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 So what are faction reputation points? [06-Dec-22 05:43 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faction-contracts/ nvm saw it here {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/faction-contracts/ Faction Contracts :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [06-Dec-22 06:29 AM] domicius#0000 So does anyone actually want HAL? Or shall I pour it all into EPO/PG? [06-Dec-22 07:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 I don't have enough CHP, so you can directly convert it into CL to make EPO/PG [06-Dec-22 09:07 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I will buy any amount of HAL from you [06-Dec-22 09:08 AM] jackinabox86#0000 now and in the future. Whatever you produce, I will buy [06-Dec-22 09:24 AM] Deleted User#0000 Dwarf Fortress is available for purchase on Steam, now. It has a graphical interface, that was added to the original, no-cost version {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (3) [06-Dec-22 09:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 Man I played sooooooo much Dwarf Fortress back in the day [06-Dec-22 09:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like Rimworld mostly scratches that itch for me, though [06-Dec-22 09:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 I might try the steam version, however [06-Dec-22 10:42 AM] rune_242#0000 please tell me there is someone on ki-401d with BTA..... [06-Dec-22 10:42 AM] rune_242#0000 I can't build any COL๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [06-Dec-22 10:44 AM] churavis#0000 We need a really fast ship that can do emergency runs to far away planets [06-Dec-22 10:57 AM] allocater#0000 best I can do is 3 BTA on 401b from insenseless' dismantled base ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Dec-22 10:58 AM] rune_242#0000 it's okay I'll send a ship tomorrow [06-Dec-22 10:58 AM] churavis#0000 3 dusty, used BTA [06-Dec-22 10:58 AM] rune_242#0000 iew [06-Dec-22 10:58 AM] rune_242#0000 clean them first at least before you sell them to me [06-Dec-22 10:59 AM] churavis#0000 One of them has a dirty orange stain that just won't come out [06-Dec-22 06:06 PM] emperyan11#0000 Just finished my first science mission. +2 points Slytherin [06-Dec-22 06:07 PM] emperyan11#0000 I'll have to look into upgrading one of my base haulers into an X-boat. For emergency runs [06-Dec-22 06:14 PM] churavis#0000 It would cost the same as a new boat as the fastest ships have nothing in common with starters or even the basic workhorses [06-Dec-22 06:15 PM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah but then I'd have five ships lol... I don't think I can manage a fleet ๐Ÿคฃ [06-Dec-22 06:18 PM] churavis#0000 Also, the X ship won't be operating all the time, otherwise it won't be available for emergencies. Most of the time it will be docked at ANT. [06-Dec-22 06:22 PM] emperyan11#0000 True. [06-Dec-22 06:22 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hmm ๐Ÿค” [06-Dec-22 06:22 PM] emperyan11#0000 How much cargo cap you think? [06-Dec-22 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 minimize your small emitter count. 800-899m3 ship volume is probably better than 700-799. So you can target that with the very small bay (250/250), or if you go Tiny, you'll be in the 500-599m3 range, which can look promising: [06-Dec-22 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-06_18-30-44.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-06_18-30-44.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hI0ct7VwtUdE438LHtDhTcxSn5psf0R7nxd67B9IXyc/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-06_18-30-44.png [06-Dec-22 06:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 you'd probably want to do a bunch of test flights though [06-Dec-22 06:38 PM] churavis#0000 What? No, I said a fast ship, like this: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049847351054970880/Screenshot_20221206-1737022.png?ex=6814bcc9&is=68136b49&hm=084b41ef1af2515b49befbbc040436ef0c7bcbae532d4df14f056bc0f3550da0& [06-Dec-22 06:39 PM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, we're going for the Lambo of Emergency vehicles. [06-Dec-22 06:40 PM] emperyan11#0000 I'll prolly shield it all to hell too [06-Dec-22 06:40 PM] churavis#0000 Who wants to be saved by a box car? The cooler it looks, the lower it sounds, the faster it goes [06-Dec-22 06:40 PM] emperyan11#0000 Right? [06-Dec-22 06:41 PM] churavis#0000 I added all the shielding that doesn't add weight and slow it down [06-Dec-22 06:42 PM] emperyan11#0000 It's just money right? And until they nerf the MM for software I gots more than I need. Suddenly understands why rich d-bags buy ridiculous cars... ๐Ÿค” [06-Dec-22 06:45 PM] balbar#0000 I like the name ๐Ÿ˜ [06-Dec-22 06:46 PM] emperyan11#0000 Just noticed it, yeah cool name! [06-Dec-22 06:51 PM] churavis#0000 It was the fastest thing that fit with the Humpty-Dumpty theme of my other ships [06-Dec-22 06:55 PM] emperyan11#0000 Makes sense to me.... not sure I have a theme anymore. [06-Dec-22 06:56 PM] emperyan11#0000 Genny Bills, Orson Whales, Moby Deck and Antares Reflector (that ones my ANT II puddle jumper) [06-Dec-22 07:04 PM] yuen8241#0000 Your idea is really cool. My ship names are all ship types and tasks. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ด [06-Dec-22 08:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 Actually, I don't produce HAL. I don't even produce CL now.๐Ÿคฃ [06-Dec-22 08:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 My only chemical products available for sale are PG and MED, NST and BL [06-Dec-22 08:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I tagged you incorrectly. Meant to be the message above from Domicius [07-Dec-22 01:11 AM] allocater#0000 but these ships are only fast if you burn 100% fuel, right? [07-Dec-22 01:14 AM] churavis#0000 Yes but you can burn a lot of fuel [07-Dec-22 01:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049949233328951316/image.png?ex=68151bac&is=6813ca2c&hm=f597f380b188e6555bf26a6ff1f5382eb16afd68373ec5067b855134c1201fa6& [07-Dec-22 01:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 What a burning money machine [07-Dec-22 01:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049949531028074496/image.png?ex=68151bf3&is=6813ca73&hm=03cdcb9e1c8e92dc004256df53f57ce9bd33a6878992f78f829f525197158cc2& [07-Dec-22 01:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1049949621801189386/image.png?ex=68151c08&is=6813ca88&hm=604d1c123a3b37c9fe8866d65fa878650901f2aa56ce7502002e9770cc5c0ab7& [07-Dec-22 01:25 AM] churavis#0000 With the corp price of fuel, 1055 SF and 1316 FF only comes to 18,968$ That's peanuts for an inter CX trip [07-Dec-22 01:26 AM] yuen8241#0000 I can consider buying one for urgent valuables transportation. [07-Dec-22 01:26 AM] yuen8241#0000 The profit of bulk goods is not enough to cover the cost. [07-Dec-22 01:27 AM] churavis#0000 If it's for saving a high tier production line from being stalled an extra day then it could be worth a couple thousand or even tens of thousands in fuel costs [07-Dec-22 01:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 I prefer this ship to transport expensive CX commodities, because the supply and demand there fluctuate frequently, and the supply and demand of the base is relatively easy to calculate and stable. [07-Dec-22 04:33 AM] domicius#0000 Blech. My FIO got stuck and didn't refresh, and I had to reset. I'll be spending a few days stocking bases, back after that. [07-Dec-22 05:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 Did you not log in to FIO after the update? [07-Dec-22 06:08 AM] domicius#0000 It's been a week or so. [07-Dec-22 07:03 AM] gladeowl#0000 I'm terrible at deciphering the price charts, did somebody scalp the INS market? [07-Dec-22 07:38 AM] allocater#0000 the monopoly guy moved his monopoly up [07-Dec-22 07:39 AM] allocater#0000 or the monopoly wall fell {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [07-Dec-22 08:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 I haven't used up my EPO, so I haven't produced INS for a long time. I guess other PP3 manufacturers haven't produced INS for a long time for various reasons. [07-Dec-22 08:18 AM] gladeowl#0000 I've been constantly producing INS, but all of it is being sold in-corp. [07-Dec-22 08:19 AM] allocater#0000 look at me, I am the monopoly on the CX now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [07-Dec-22 08:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 I bought all your goods, and now it's me. [07-Dec-22 08:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 Wow, where did you get another thousand INS? [07-Dec-22 08:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 But I bought your 4,000 INS in ANT, and I'm going to ship them all to HRT.๐Ÿคฃ [07-Dec-22 08:23 AM] allocater#0000 I bought 5000 once for a base that was never built [07-Dec-22 08:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 I bought a lot of INS at the price of 115 AIC before and sold it to benten as an exchange tool. [07-Dec-22 08:24 AM] allocater#0000 so you depleted the monopoly wall ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-22 08:24 AM] allocater#0000 I also have HSE for 3 bases ๐Ÿ˜… [07-Dec-22 08:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 Maybe I need to wait and see to avoid the surge of INS. At least the INS left in my hand can be used as a wall to maintain the price of 200 AIC. [07-Dec-22 08:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 My materials can also make 200 HSE , and I sold 100 in Corp before. [07-Dec-22 08:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that Corp has achieved HSE freedom.๐Ÿคฃ [07-Dec-22 08:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 Maybe my 6 PP3 are not enough. such as Rfabs, INS and HSE, all of which are needed. [07-Dec-22 08:37 AM] allocater#0000 I think you can stop HSE and focus on INS and r-fabs [07-Dec-22 09:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 Actually, I have stopped. [07-Dec-22 01:45 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 I removed my Nike base, to get the permit back and re-use it on my new base. Should I not get it back? The base permits are showing as 6/6 in the HQ tab, but I'm only using 5? Or am I missing something obvious? :\ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1050136009880383619/image.png?ex=681520df&is=6813cf5f&hm=17f0d275df3e54a09e546d44790ffec9b07136fc36c56570ae45a198f9f841e3& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1050136010224308335/image.png?ex=681520df&is=6813cf5f&hm=5bc4f506c9d7cfad9b09b120198f2f3db200ca8c5fba4bfe4be1d52cfe7659c8& [07-Dec-22 01:46 PM] churavis#0000 It's a visual error, it will be there when you use it. Maybe add and remove a permit from on of your bases [07-Dec-22 01:46 PM] allocater#0000 Nobody leaves nike! {Reactions} PeepoPrayge (2) [07-Dec-22 01:47 PM] rune_242#0000 Try refreshing the game [07-Dec-22 01:48 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 A yeah, now I can add it, had to refresh, thanks! [07-Dec-22 01:48 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 I thought they fixed that for this update [07-Dec-22 01:49 PM] rune_242#0000 Turning on and off again always works! [07-Dec-22 06:05 PM] exeler#0000 At my work we have a whole service dedicated to turning off other services and turning them back on again. Bad devs like to put state into their stateless services, so we make that automatically a really bad idea. [07-Dec-22 06:39 PM] yuen8241#0000 Why did you give Harmonia 3 permit? Are you frantically producing C? [07-Dec-22 07:25 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I find multiple permit bases are actually a good idea the longer I play this game. When I first started I thought the same as everyone else (that area to permit ratio wasn't worth it) but once you start managing logistics for a higher number of bases every additional one seems to exponentially compound logistical problems. I think we get like 20ish permits before A-fabs are required for HQ upgrades and that's plenty to use for expansion to other planets but also focus some bases with 1000 space. So I like the idea of a 3 permit base, especially on Harmonia [07-Dec-22 07:27 PM] churavis#0000 I'm glad I didn't do more than 1 permit bases at first because later on it allowed me to expand into higher tier production lines without having to demolish anything, I just had to add another permit [07-Dec-22 08:18 PM] exeler#0000 This is essentially my plan [07-Dec-22 08:18 PM] exeler#0000 Except Harmonia. If that gets another permit I'm just making more HYF. [07-Dec-22 08:47 PM] yuen8241#0000 Three ORCs are the main building of my Harmonia. Actually, I bought my RAT from HRT and my C from ANT. [08-Dec-22 06:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 The prices of RAT in all CX have gone crazy. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ€ (2) [08-Dec-22 06:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1050387689289023508/image.png?ex=6814b9c4&is=68136844&hm=5f530d41efc878695bc70637e2dced1d218cb085b8f8dca8314530659a26e472& [08-Dec-22 06:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 And supply and demand are very unbalanced. [09-Dec-22 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1050696284681547776/image.png?ex=681487ab&is=6813362b&hm=be97e25d6ba7bd0058b8518938ad5639d4b89637a228fc0443be4e51d1268d99& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (3) [09-Dec-22 02:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 Give me 120k AIC for nothing. My STL hasn't been built yet [09-Dec-22 02:57 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1050697808719659049/image.png?ex=68148916&is=68133796&hm=5b5b0ea09e4ba3bfbe9656490b3531e0b149745952232b9c4b27bac2be458e25& [09-Dec-22 02:58 AM] rune_242#0000 seems like a better contract than the one I got๐Ÿ˜… [09-Dec-22 02:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 These contracts are too random, and the vast majority of them have low returns and are not worth doing by old players. [09-Dec-22 03:00 AM] allocater#0000 but the siren call of reputation points and the unknown benefits of the future [09-Dec-22 03:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 If I have a spare boat, I can consider doing it. [09-Dec-22 09:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 I just got this one: http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-09_09-43-52.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-09_09-43-52.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jmn2MlbGyKNoNLSMnNtHm_OhCvDc2F4uyWaAXXfeiPc/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-09_09-43-52.png [09-Dec-22 09:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 50 "do nothing points" sounds like a lot ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Dec-22 09:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 cool [09-Dec-22 09:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 I sure hope 18,000 AIC and 83 overalls covers the expense of being governor ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Dec-22 09:45 AM] churavis#0000 You lucky bastard, maybe you can tell us what it's like to have so many points {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ (2) [09-Dec-22 09:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 But you can be governor of a planet with few people. . [09-Dec-22 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 gonna have to build some ADMs for that purpose [09-Dec-22 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 I accepted a delivery contract previously but never completed it, so at least you caqn stack them up [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 What's the use of this point? [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 Whoever dies with the most points wins ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 It would be nice if the faction could reduce my taxes or advertising fees and warehouse rental fees. [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 just kidding. They said they don't do anything yet. Maybe in the future they will do something [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] churavis#0000 Wins what? [09-Dec-22 09:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 life [09-Dec-22 09:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 Qj-650c election Election end:5 days 15h [09-Dec-22 09:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 Or exchange points for something. Maybe even more advanced, help me run for governor. [09-Dec-22 01:53 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I thought they said you get better rewards even now with the points? Then maybe it's worth doing a couple small ones for veterans and getting free shit later? [09-Dec-22 01:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I heard that, then I read that maybe that was a "future plan" to improve the rewards. It wasn't very clear [09-Dec-22 01:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I'll have 50 points next week so, we'll see [09-Dec-22 01:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 that's a lot of delivery contracts worth of points [09-Dec-22 03:46 PM] yjhasaday#0000 I downloaded Hades Star and am giving it a try after looking into it on your recommendation. Thanks! Can I add you in game? My IGN is "Cpt YJ" - this looks somewhat similar to PrUn shipping but with other elements that are very different so far. @allocater did you end up installing it too? [09-Dec-22 04:05 PM] Deleted User#0000 @yjhasaday14 Glad that you took a look at it. I have been enjoying it... I am not sure if I can add people in-game, but I will try getting you an invite the the corporation that I joined. [09-Dec-22 04:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 https://discord.gg/vCnRArh {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Dec-22 04:31 PM] allocater#0000 not yet, gonna finish Against the Storm first [09-Dec-22 04:33 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Yeah, I've heard good things about that one, I'll be trying it out at some point too [09-Dec-22 06:46 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™ve been trying this Hadesโ€™ star, but all I end up doing is running the shipments, which is pretty tedious busy work [09-Dec-22 06:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Takes a lot to unlock more powerful ships, and because of the fuel cost to fly them, they arenโ€™t really worth it. It takes time to play the game and for me, none of it is combat that isnโ€™t trivial or impossible [09-Dec-22 06:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™m interested in the new version. Maybe that wonโ€™t feel like chores [10-Dec-22 07:01 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Sorry to kill the mood here! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [10-Dec-22 08:17 PM] domicius#0000 I'm doing Slay the Spire, having finished axiom verge this week. Also the new Dragon Age cartoon on Netflix. [12-Dec-22 06:16 AM] Deleted User#0000 @jackinabox86 The shipping mechanic in hades' star gets a ~~whole lot ~~ tiny bit more interesting once you unlock the "shipment computer" {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Dec-22 12:36 PM] churavis#0000 The livestream is on now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkPwN5ACffM {Embed} Prosperous Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkPwN5ACffM PRESTIGE Live Stream Celebrate the holidays with us and join us for a discussion on the recently released PRESTIGE update to Prosperous Universe. Ask questions and hang out with the devs! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Ax4_tCUlqQzixdnZUwxunCm3gM9KIttbLUvin5rR1yE/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/WkPwN5ACffM/sddefault_live.jpg [12-Dec-22 02:12 PM] allocater#0000 missed opportunity to complain about market makers [12-Dec-22 02:12 PM] churavis#0000 Oh I did, they just chose to ignore it [13-Dec-22 02:31 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi all, I've had to turn away quite a few AMM requests because I was backlogged with demand over the last few months. So I wanted to let you all know that I've expanded my AMM operation and done a bunch of repairs so I now have some surplus to sell if any of you need it. I know its used in smaller amounts in fermenting and chemistry so I thought I would lay an FYI here in general for everyone. The following is currently available: 1000 AMM on Nike @ 75/u *~~1000~~* 600 AMM on QJ-382g @ 60/u [13-Dec-22 04:50 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Hi guys, I made a poll to help us shape the OOG gas station locations. Please take a minute to submit a response (its only 2 checkbox questions), no promises to anything but this will help us identify the common shipping routes among our group and hopefully improving your re-fueling experience! So please fill it out honestly. You can check multiple boxes for each question. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScDzgxKu0kueE_bNgef8uYLgh-r385jZIwjd-u8O84Kc0hLew/viewform?usp=sf_link {Embed} https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScDzgxKu0kueE_bNgef8uYLgh-r385jZIwjd-u8O84Kc0hLew/viewform?usp=sf_link OOG Re-fueling Depot Locations Please take a minute to check the locations that you would prefer for re-fueling below. No guarantees that anything will change but specific/obvious trends may alter the way OOG provides fuel. Thank you! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VOcPbl2jC0WSWTUlMmvOzrE8XpLsw2Eh3_hjP4jWOlc/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/_G-wIaW5qQqN5SQ2UNY08Iz8G9uXmYg2n9D2wd7hzqCLhejkn7HuVPilGHGhEsyHr3o8zoW5Ryc%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [13-Dec-22 04:50 PM] yjhasaday#0000 @everyone see above [13-Dec-22 05:43 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Iโ€™ll take 400 AMM on QJ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [13-Dec-22 07:15 PM] .zogii#0000 Just so you know, I also have AMM avail. on QJ. Right now I have 500 avail. @ 60/u [14-Dec-22 01:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 The AMM of HRT is very expensive. You can ship it to sell it, and then buy the RAT and ship it back. [14-Dec-22 08:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1052769204140507167/image.png?ex=6814d1f9&is=68138079&hm=d0deb16f00a4bfb3cf9f395c487a27baebfcc1cdc4ee8791f8f1745152e226f0& [14-Dec-22 08:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 This speed is so touching.๐Ÿ˜ญ [14-Dec-22 08:58 PM] churavis#0000 But you're saving, what, 40 FF [14-Dec-22 09:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 If I ask the ship to arrive in benten today, it will take more than 300 SF. [14-Dec-22 09:10 PM] churavis#0000 How much is your shipping capacity worth and how much do you need to move? [14-Dec-22 09:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 about 500t [15-Dec-22 06:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_06-54-42.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_06-54-42.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VYGsFJGUFY8BNPD6tqb9dF5m-x8Cfcu2vV4dqVJYLyM/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_06-54-42.png [15-Dec-22 06:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 Got my rep! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [15-Dec-22 08:45 AM] churavis#0000 Let us know what the rewards for your future contracts look like [15-Dec-22 10:14 AM] jackinabox86#0000 cool for you that you got a good contract. mine have all been total trash for 1 or 2 points, so I've refused to do them [15-Dec-22 10:14 AM] jackinabox86#0000 been pretty disappointed by the feature [15-Dec-22 10:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 Here is what contracts look like at 152 Reputation: http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_10-16-02.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_10-16-02.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aaJevMr3_EwDtT1gT6vCGBsD4nFihwJSAZukhfFV1Xo/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2022-12-15_10-16-02.png [15-Dec-22 10:17 AM] jackinabox86#0000 ha, that's terrible [15-Dec-22 10:17 AM] jackinabox86#0000 never going to take a contract [15-Dec-22 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 I am not convinced they really changed. [15-Dec-22 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 fortunately I have a ship going to Norwick and it's coming from somewhere that already had glass laying around [15-Dec-22 01:31 PM] domicius#0000 Where do you find your reputation? [15-Dec-22 01:35 PM] domicius#0000 I find it [15-Dec-22 01:35 PM] Deleted User#0000 I watched the dev video stream, and they said that you could stop the contracts from being delivered. Has anyone seen that setting? [15-Dec-22 01:37 PM] churavis#0000 It's in the notifications settings [15-Dec-22 02:11 PM] balbar#0000 FA.AI, at the bottom: [15-Dec-22 02:11 PM] balbar#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1053041536721506364/grafik.png?ex=681526da&is=6813d55a&hm=7f797c812578d8abddedec52aa7d5b8cae4dbf758ee2ac391c64b792ef75122d& [15-Dec-22 02:48 PM] Deleted User#0000 Yay, thanks! [15-Dec-22 03:21 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I accepted a contract to become a Gov, doesn't work if you already are one [15-Dec-22 03:22 PM] churavis#0000 So it doesn't accept reelection as a satisfaction of the governor contract? [15-Dec-22 03:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 It worked for me [15-Dec-22 03:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 The QJ-650c election ended while I had the contract, to be clear. [15-Dec-22 03:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 I had 5 days left til the election ended when I accepted it, and it triggered as soon as it ended. [15-Dec-22 03:31 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Ok so it must only trigger on state changes to the election process? I'm not going to be reelected as it's just temporary for Allocater [15-Dec-22 03:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I think it only triggers on the successful election change. But no shortage of small planets out there you could grab. Ice Station Alpha could use a governor [16-Dec-22 01:12 AM] allocater#0000 you can run again if you want, but I guess the contract decays before the next election? [16-Dec-22 01:35 AM] allocater#0000 that price stability {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1053213799752138762/image.png?ex=68151e89&is=6813cd09&hm=ffdca0329b8e554811fb1907f36443642391cbee5b10b7080540dc84bb893f68& [16-Dec-22 01:37 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 I'm not worried, I was just curious to see if it would fulfill [16-Dec-22 07:32 AM] domicius#0000 Reupped for another 6 months... {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [16-Dec-22 10:10 AM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1053343275790119032/image.png?ex=6814ee5f&is=68139cdf&hm=091dd4c3e7db9c7435397a11aa68c12f1034b23a3e10e41ee1261fbb3e24a461& [16-Dec-22 10:11 AM] allocater#0000 ๐Ÿ“ˆ ๐ŸŒ‘ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ ๐ŸŒ‘ [16-Dec-22 10:14 AM] churavis#0000 RiseOfFilth says that he and some of his buddies are going to plop down bases in about two weeks [16-Dec-22 11:09 PM] dehzhas#0000 I'm curious what did you say about MM? The chat replay is off so I can't see it ๐Ÿ˜† [16-Dec-22 11:12 PM] churavis#0000 I just asked whether they were going to nerf some overabused MMs that were causing inflation. [16-Dec-22 11:41 PM] dehzhas#0000 Seems to me that MMs aren't really on the radar as having a problem of any kind from the brief moment they mentioned it. [17-Dec-22 12:05 AM] churavis#0000 Apparently not [17-Dec-22 12:20 AM] domicius#0000 Like which MMs? [17-Dec-22 12:23 AM] churavis#0000 Software mostly as it has no inputs, so IDC and EDC {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (3) [17-Dec-22 06:34 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, I hate MMs because they drive us away from participating in the economy [17-Dec-22 06:35 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I have a good profitable MM chain and with that I have plenty of money and donโ€™t have to interact with anyone other than a couple of inputs and consumables [17-Dec-22 06:36 AM] jackinabox86#0000 As players age up, it empties the CX or even in corp trade [17-Dec-22 06:36 AM] jackinabox86#0000 All the other things I do, fuel, prefabs, etc. is basically just to meet others needs, not for profit [17-Dec-22 06:45 AM] gladeowl#0000 That's interesting. I'm assuming MMs were created to control the prices to an extent, so something never got too cheap or too expensive. Would this become a problem without MMs? [17-Dec-22 06:46 AM] gladeowl#0000 SF or FF shooting to 40-50/u because of scalpers or just lack of supply. [17-Dec-22 06:59 AM] allocater#0000 my issue is only with the buying MMs [17-Dec-22 07:31 AM] churavis#0000 The higher tier MMs seem to be for stimulating demand in higher rier production buildings that otherwise would see little use and not be worth it. I'm order to get rid of them developers would need to do something to increase natural demand. For example, drone shops are useless because large infrastructure buildings aren't worth it compared to just adding more small ones and RDS/RDL aren't worth it for LHP ships, which are most ships because higher tier ship plates aren't worth it financially unless you just want to go really fast and guzzle horrendous amounts of fuel. So to get rid of higher tier MMs they would need to rebalance a lot of systems [17-Dec-22 07:37 AM] rune_242#0000 do DW, OFF and SUN give the same value for a SST? [17-Dec-22 07:38 AM] churavis#0000 The full consumption of each category does give the same {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Dec-22 08:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 I produced a bunch of EDCs. In fact, this one is really profitable and worry-free. Considering that many products and industries that I am involved in take up a lot of energy and capacity, and I need foreign exchange for a long time, this is very helpful to me. [17-Dec-22 08:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 However, the development team should indeed reduce the income of EDC or increase its use. MM can provide liquidity, but the inflation caused by excess liquidity is also very serious. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [17-Dec-22 08:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Perhaps a factional contract to purchase a large number of consumables or other products is an alternative solution to provide liquidity. This new liquidity will be more evenly distributed among more players and industries, rather than being monopolized by MM producers. [17-Dec-22 08:42 AM] domicius#0000 Yeah, I use the software MMs to make quite a bit of money, but mainly that means I spend huge amounts on high tier consumables. Enough that I've had to branch out into actually making some of them myself because otherwise it was a bit of a wash financially. It's easy mode in a way. Software is a bit wierd anyway, but the main issue is the relative lack of inputs. [17-Dec-22 08:43 AM] domicius#0000 Also, repairing the SW buildings requires pretty much all Rfabs. It's very expensive. [17-Dec-22 08:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have basically been self-sufficient in EDC consumables and Rfabs. [17-Dec-22 08:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 But I found many MMs producers who don't produce anything other than MMs. [17-Dec-22 09:28 AM] domicius#0000 It serves a purpose if you don't want to do too much shipping. I guess its a matter of playstyle too. So people just want to play multiplayer solitaire, and software fills that void. [17-Dec-22 09:29 AM] domicius#0000 Whereas agriculture is so wide, its really hard to make everything (for example) [17-Dec-22 01:53 PM] erklein#0000 I think it would be more interesting to see more of the higher tier population buildings. Is it that the upkeep materials are too expensive to maintain them that they aren't used much, or just the upfront cost of higher building materials? [17-Dec-22 01:53 PM] churavis#0000 Both [17-Dec-22 01:59 PM] erklein#0000 Do you think it would change if instead of leveling up infrastructure requires more of the same materials, they instead require higher tier fabs to level up? [17-Dec-22 02:02 PM] churavis#0000 The solution is to make the more complex large buildings give more satisfaction while requiring a more complex supply chain so that long term players, the kind who become governors of the biggest planets, can have a reason to build complex supply chains for higher tier products [17-Dec-22 02:02 PM] churavis#0000 Also, there should be a bonus for fulfilling all the upkeep consumables so that you can't just get away with supplying the easiest thing [17-Dec-22 02:03 PM] erklein#0000 Ooh, I like the bonus for fulfilling all idea [17-Dec-22 02:04 PM] churavis#0000 Right, because it means you have to figure out how to make or source some complex items, adding to the difficulty for only those who are looking for it [17-Dec-22 02:26 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I think EDCs are also particularly egregious because they eat up all of the rfabs. Most of the other chains donโ€™t just devour the rfabs needed for hq upgrades and everything else [17-Dec-22 02:26 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I stopped at 7 and did a different chain [18-Dec-22 01:51 AM] allocater#0000 yeah, these numbers are not balanced, if drones would give more they would be used for popi {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1053942470578278450/image.png?ex=6815222a&is=6813d0aa&hm=4f60115ee11c8c9c166e46a477254c4e60e0bedd27e27744e24b98730d26a569& [18-Dec-22 05:18 PM] churavis#0000 Someone bought my CQT for 180,000, that is a record galaxy wide by a large margin {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1054175897210585168/image.png?ex=6814aa0f&is=6813588f&hm=ad74708edac069095f49ffc0da255d60e68cd01ed03eb34e5b12e476128bfbd5& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿ’ฐ [18-Dec-22 05:19 PM] churavis#0000 There are no other CQT's available on any other CX so let's see if we can go even higher [19-Dec-22 09:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (8) [19-Dec-22 10:27 AM] allocater#0000 what happend to the wave buttons? [19-Dec-22 10:27 AM] churavis#0000 Waves are annoying {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅบ (4) [19-Dec-22 10:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [19-Dec-22 10:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Live long and prosper to you too [19-Dec-22 10:28 AM] dehzhas#0000 @xenoxerarch hello! [19-Dec-22 10:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh hey Dehz [19-Dec-22 10:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Guess I found out where all the cool kids hang out ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [19-Dec-22 10:29 AM] dehzhas#0000 At least in Antares space ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Dec-22 10:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Roughly on par with the folks in Benten space, though slightly more talkative. [19-Dec-22 10:33 AM] churavis#0000 Only slightly? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-Dec-22 10:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Okay, vastly more talkative. Benten was a bit too much on the quiet side. Hence why I'm now in Antares. [19-Dec-22 11:09 AM] jackinabox86#0000 glad to see a new face. we need a few more active players [19-Dec-22 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Happy to be here, I appreciate the invite. [19-Dec-22 11:09 AM] gladeowl#0000 Hello, Welcome to this organized chaos! [19-Dec-22 11:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The very best sort of chaos! [19-Dec-22 11:11 AM] emperyan11#0000 Hey gang, if you need bulk steel reach out to me and we can arrange a decent price. Instead of you know, driving the price on the CX into the basement... [19-Dec-22 11:11 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Still fairly new, pardon any newbie mixups or silly questions that may (read: guaranteed to) come up. [19-Dec-22 11:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Good to know! Always need steel for my Deimos BMP op. (Very tiny amount for now, but that'll grow with time.) [19-Dec-22 11:12 AM] gladeowl#0000 Hehe. Don't forget to check the welcome channel and the sheet within it for all the production and prices of every member. [19-Dec-22 11:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 What's your going rate? [19-Dec-22 11:13 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'll check it out immediately, cheers. [19-Dec-22 11:14 AM] emperyan11#0000 I'll do 800/unit for Corp members on a contract. Looking at you @allocater and @yuen8241 [19-Dec-22 11:16 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's a damn good price. [19-Dec-22 11:17 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...Is it wrong that I feel a burning desire to alphabetize the corp production sheet so corps are listed in alphabetical order (Don't worry I won't, but still) [19-Dec-22 11:19 AM] gladeowl#0000 I did say it was chaotic lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (2) [19-Dec-22 11:19 AM] allocater#0000 I am totally up for buying steel on ANT, if you don't want to sell into the CX you can send contracts. But I only use 10 per day and am too lazy to ship from deimos. [19-Dec-22 11:21 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Uhh, quick question. So about adding myself to the corp production sheet... Does the line color mean anything? Notice some folks are green, some blue, some gray/silver/white. [19-Dec-22 11:21 AM] gladeowl#0000 Personal preference. [19-Dec-22 11:21 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ah okay [19-Dec-22 11:22 AM] gladeowl#0000 The Planets sheet just alternates between Blue and Green for readability. [19-Dec-22 11:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And that random blank white space? [19-Dec-22 11:23 AM] gladeowl#0000 Active vs Inactive Members. [19-Dec-22 11:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ahhh [19-Dec-22 11:25 AM] yang_mills#0000 @everyone Greetings, fellow Ooga Boogasย ! I would like to draw your attention on two freemium browser strategy MMOs with deep economic systems that I tried recently. ~~The first one is ~~ removed, see discussion below ๐Ÿ‘‡. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ (3) [19-Dec-22 11:26 AM] yang_mills#0000 The other one is Illyriad. http://www.illyriad.co.uk/ This one is more like an online civ game in a heroic fantasy setup, with humans, elves, dwarves and orcs. The players build their cities on the global map, build buildings in their cities, gather ressources (8 basic types), produce from these resources other goods (essentially weapons and armours, several dozens of different types), perform research (to unlock buildings, units, increase productivity or military power), trade with other players and fight with other players (like city raids that allow to capture enemies' resources). There are player driven trade hubs, and player driven trade, with free market prices. One can actually trade on bid/ask spreads in trade hubs. There are caravans to transport goods between cities. These caravans can be raided by the way. {Embed} http://www.illyriad.co.uk/ Illyriad - Grand Strategy MMO Free-to-Play HTML5 Massively-Multiplayer real-time strategy game, set in a vast fantasy world of mountain ranges, lakes, forests, oceans, islands, rivers, deserts, jungles, marshes and the northern wastes with countries and factions - each with their own agendas. [19-Dec-22 11:26 AM] yang_mills#0000 By the way, many don't know me. I am a former OOG member. I was also the governor on Phobos at some point. Stopped 3 months ago. [19-Dec-22 11:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 oooh [19-Dec-22 11:30 AM] exeler#0000 @demannu and I played this a while back. The dev was not so great on security, so if you play this make sure to use a password you definitely don't use anywhere else. [19-Dec-22 11:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sounds interesting. Will likely give it a look-see. [19-Dec-22 11:32 AM] yang_mills#0000 Really? Good to know. [19-Dec-22 11:32 AM] yang_mills#0000 @exeler Did you get your password stolen? [19-Dec-22 11:33 AM] exeler#0000 The main draw for me with Barons was that you can script all of your units. So instead of logging in regularly to move things about like we do here, you can set up loops for your transports (and even military units). This massively expands each player's ability to scale. So the maps are usually full of units buzzing around and it looks like there's a ton of activity (and there is), but the playerbase is small. [19-Dec-22 11:34 AM] exeler#0000 something like that ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Dec-22 11:37 AM] exeler#0000 Also in Barons, since a lot of routines are scripted, and the old players have their shipments timed to keep the prices of things in major cities stable while squeezing out the max profit, you can engage in some fun economic warfare by tanking the price of a particularly important good in a city. This is usually why the really big players settle planets in the far reaches of the galaxy by themselves where they can control everything. [19-Dec-22 11:38 AM] yang_mills#0000 Oh, this is bad. [19-Dec-22 11:42 AM] demannu#0000 @yang_mills It's actually how I met @exeler lmao It's a very fun game, but the dev is definitely owned by the 2 whales that keep the game funded. You'll see dev intervention when the whales aren't happy (such as exelers suggested economic warfare) And also the old timers have more or less automated the game via scripts and extensions I can give you the codebase for my extensions and automation for the game if you're interested [19-Dec-22 11:43 AM] demannu#0000 It also includes a discord bot and scraper for news and economic stats so you can keep tabs and attempt to keep the dev honest [19-Dec-22 11:44 AM] churavis#0000 Not sure I want to play a game where the devs don't keep themselves honest [19-Dec-22 11:44 AM] yang_mills#0000 Yeah, the game is to be avoided in this case. [19-Dec-22 11:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same tbh. I'm all for low-pop MUDs and such but... Eh. [19-Dec-22 11:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Might be fun to become a pirate and harass some random whale's transports for a little, but I'd inevitably end up frustrated by the gamestate. [19-Dec-22 11:49 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I actually found PU due to someone randomly mentioning it in Torn City (crime rpg mmo), followed up with a youtube video explaining some mechanics. I saw nerdy spreadsheet space heaven and signed up immediately. [19-Dec-22 11:50 AM] demannu#0000 I actually found PU cause of a steam advert and then converted to the web pretty quickly [19-Dec-22 11:50 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its very similar to a game I played in the early 2000's, except the map was a grid coordinate schtick and you had to manually plot your way to bases, asteroids, planets, exchanges, etc. That and the UI/UX was late 90s based trash. [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] demannu#0000 Bro are you talking about merchant empires {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 YES [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 HOLY FUCK [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] demannu#0000 I run an instance of it still [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT FINALLY {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] demannu#0000 I have all the assets and a running server [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Bruh [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] demannu#0000 I could def open it to the corp [19-Dec-22 11:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I missed that game so much. I used to play it like 10 hours a day. [19-Dec-22 11:52 AM] demannu#0000 Yeah me too lmao. Part of my motivation of learning all I know was to revive games I played as a kid [19-Dec-22 11:52 AM] demannu#0000 The other one is Hackwars [19-Dec-22 11:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hah nice [19-Dec-22 11:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Don't think I ever tried that one [19-Dec-22 11:52 AM] demannu#0000 Tldr hacking sim with a JavaScript runtime interpreter. It allowed you to script actions and hacks and websites in game [19-Dec-22 11:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 PU really is, in many ways, a modern successor to ME. I was amazed by how similar a lot of the mechanics and such are. That being I've never found a game prior that scratched the ME itch. [19-Dec-22 11:53 AM] demannu#0000 When I get off work tonight I'll spin up an Ooga instance of ME [19-Dec-22 11:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ahhh okay, I played a similar game at one point [19-Dec-22 11:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ME-Ooga, you ooga, we all ooga for space fantasy? [19-Dec-22 11:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I vaguely remember obsessively building my base in secret between major trade lanes, slowly building up all the infra needed to create my own ships. That was... Fuck, I must've been in junior high still. [19-Dec-22 11:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I turn 31 in 2 months, and I'm pretty sure I was somewhere between 7th and 9th grade at the time. 12-14 years old, or some such. [19-Dec-22 11:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Give or take a few. [19-Dec-22 11:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Good times. [19-Dec-22 11:56 AM] demannu#0000 I was lurking on the IRC for astro empires when I was like 8? And found merchant empires cause it was being hosted on the same server [19-Dec-22 11:56 AM] demannu#0000 I'll be 30 next year [19-Dec-22 11:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I remember astro empires too, met some amazing people there. [19-Dec-22 11:57 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Edit: pretty confident* I got into astro from ME, so same but opposite [19-Dec-22 11:57 AM] demannu#0000 Lmao [19-Dec-22 11:57 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its legit crazy feeling to bump into someone else who also played a weird niche game like that [19-Dec-22 11:57 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though not entirely surprising, this being an equally weird niche game of the same genre [19-Dec-22 11:59 AM] demannu#0000 Haven't found anyone in like 10 years that remembered it [19-Dec-22 12:00 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same, you're the first person who knows what the hell I'm even talking about. I tried googling it and apparently there's some new garbage game that uses the name merchant empires, and its not even a space game. [19-Dec-22 12:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Guess I got invited to exactly the right corp ๐Ÿ˜› [19-Dec-22 12:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Shit, what are the odds... I'm honestly still amazed. [19-Dec-22 12:16 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Not really sure what I should price my raw goods at, so I'm currently putting my production output and input requisition/requirement numbers in the raw mat price tab, with a $? for price (which I'll fill in as soon as I find out what other corpies sell at, so I can anchor price at internal baseline) [19-Dec-22 12:16 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Currently doing between 12-144 BEA/NUT/MAI on Harmonia between 12 FRMs, so roughly 48/day average, if you're going 1:1:1 for RAT production. [19-Dec-22 12:17 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 On a contract for the next 3 weeks though, but after that I'll be free to sell it all. [19-Dec-22 12:19 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait... is the @50 etc how much you're buying for, or selling for? [19-Dec-22 12:20 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Cause some of these numbers look kinda wonky [19-Dec-22 12:21 PM] allocater#0000 it is a bit of a parallel economy to the exchange, but those are all discounted materials for sale [19-Dec-22 12:21 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Like, 50 for OVEs in Antares is crazy cheap, roughly 50-75% below market price [19-Dec-22 12:21 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ahhh okay [19-Dec-22 12:23 PM] allocater#0000 also CX prices have been going up lately, but we seldom adjust the sheet for it [19-Dec-22 12:23 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That explains it. Was confused by ALO, for example, being listed at 40, 45, and 60 by different people, while on the exchange its currently 42B/48S [19-Dec-22 12:23 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Also, hi allocater. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [19-Dec-22 12:24 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 So these are strictly internal corp discount prices then, right? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Dec-22 12:24 PM] allocater#0000 ALO recently crashed, don't buy it for 60, it's a scam ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 12:25 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 If so then I'll pick the lowest listed price on the sheet and anchor to that. Pretty pointless pricing above it anyway [19-Dec-22 12:25 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah I did a double-take at 60 lolol [19-Dec-22 12:25 PM] allocater#0000 nah, you don't really have to offer discounted goods early on [19-Dec-22 12:26 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Eh I mean. If it saves me transpo costs and helps the corpmates, its all good. [19-Dec-22 12:26 PM] allocater#0000 you need more capital to build up bases {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [19-Dec-22 12:26 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...true [19-Dec-22 12:27 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm very slowly buying back my profits in the form of raw mats to fabricate construction mats to build my second BMP on Deimos right now. A few hours til I can start construction, then its a few more days til the 2nd PP1. [19-Dec-22 12:27 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Trying to keep my liquid at roughly 50% of my starting funds, which I think were like 40k AIC [19-Dec-22 12:30 PM] allocater#0000 if you still have room on harmonia, I keep a stash of b-fabs for farm constructions you can get with delayed payment of 30d, because we always need more farms and we are all on our limits already [19-Dec-22 12:30 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 @allocater I see you've a buy order up for 1.3k ALO at 42 ea. If you're cool buying on Deimos, I can just sell you my daily production of 28 direct. Dunno if that's where you're using it though. If not, then I'll keep selling it on the exchange. Pretty sure you're the only one I've been selling to anyway LOL [19-Dec-22 12:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sadly I've maxed out Harmonia. Might end up extending the permit later, but right now I'm running 12 FRM/4 RIG on contract for the next 3 weeks. [19-Dec-22 12:31 PM] allocater#0000 perfect, then on to building up deimos ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 12:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I should've negotiated a buyback stipulation so I could at least make a little profit in the process ๐Ÿ˜› 3 weeks production with zero income is harsh. 100% of my income is coming from my tiny Deimos op ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 12:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 At least its only 3 weeks then I'll be making pure moneys [19-Dec-22 12:32 PM] dehzhas#0000 @xenoxerarch your Heph base + HQ upgrade will be ready in a few hours [19-Dec-22 12:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sweeeeet [19-Dec-22 12:33 PM] allocater#0000 I am mostly just saving ALO from being destroyed, I don't use any on deimos and only do limited smelting on hephaestus. But we need a lot of smelters on deimos as well. [19-Dec-22 12:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'll task a ship over, got one arriving at ZV-896 orbit in 4 hrs [19-Dec-22 12:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Do you think it might be better for me to build a smelter on deimos rather than keep expanding my BMP/PP1s? [19-Dec-22 12:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 At least this early on? Since extractors only seem to cost BSE and space gravel. Whatever the hell its called. MGT? MTP? [19-Dec-22 12:34 PM] allocater#0000 with ALO at all time low and AL at all-time high, smelters are definitly in high demand [19-Dec-22 12:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hrm... Let's see what a smelter costs [19-Dec-22 12:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 How's O prices and availability though, viable? [19-Dec-22 12:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 If so then I'll just put up a smelter and work off of that [19-Dec-22 12:35 PM] allocater#0000 O is also tanking, the only hard part is the C now, and AL smelting is a gold mine [19-Dec-22 12:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Nice. [19-Dec-22 12:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Alright, smelter it is. [19-Dec-22 12:36 PM] churavis#0000 O is in a bit higher demand. I'd definitely buy some if you were selling. Etherwind is the closest source besides Deimos [19-Dec-22 12:36 PM] rune_242#0000 I have a overproduction of 105 C/day right now [19-Dec-22 12:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'll definitely buy C off of you. I need it on Deimos constantly [19-Dec-22 12:37 PM] churavis#0000 I have 25 inc on Nascent so I also always have C [19-Dec-22 12:38 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 So hold on, do we have AL smelters on Deimos who need ALO/O? If so, maybe it'd be best for all if I make an O facility and sell them O/ALO, rather than smelt myself. [19-Dec-22 12:39 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I know its probably more profitable to smelt myself, but if we have deficits, its more efficient in terms of space. [19-Dec-22 12:40 PM] exeler#0000 I never have trouble sourcing ALO, and I use hundreds a day. O is also pretty easy to grab off the CX. [19-Dec-22 12:40 PM] churavis#0000 I make ALO and C on Nascent (and sell it there for cheap) and O from Etherwind [19-Dec-22 12:41 PM] churavis#0000 We have a dedicated ALO extractor already [19-Dec-22 12:41 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hm. Looks like there's 15k ALO supply on the Alt CX, and only 1k demand (entirely @allocater lol), while O is at 15.7k Sup/9.5k demand. [19-Dec-22 12:42 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Meanwhile AL is at 3.9k sup/3.2k demand. Yeah AL direct is a wider margin by the looks of it. [19-Dec-22 12:42 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Definitely an overabundance of O/ALO right now. [19-Dec-22 12:42 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Screw it. Smelter it is. [19-Dec-22 12:45 PM] gladeowl#0000 Hey. I'm being called out! ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [19-Dec-22 12:47 PM] gladeowl#0000 The ALO was at 80+ when I set that price lol. Been too lazy to change it since then. [19-Dec-22 12:47 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 holy shit {Reactions} โœ๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฉ (2) [19-Dec-22 12:47 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 It really did tank then o.O [19-Dec-22 12:48 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is that due to the recent production update? [19-Dec-22 12:48 PM] gladeowl#0000 Think it crashed a while ago. [19-Dec-22 12:48 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Please don't crash my C prices again master Allocater, I'm just starting to have hopes of getting a new ship thanks for these crazy prices ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 12:48 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait no, I think the update referenced SIO, not ALO. I might have gotten those mixed up. [19-Dec-22 12:49 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait are you the maniac I have to keep buying expensive carbon from ๐Ÿ˜  [19-Dec-22 12:49 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol [19-Dec-22 12:49 PM] churavis#0000 It's probably due to us developing Nascent and taking our demand off the market [19-Dec-22 12:49 PM] churavis#0000 Same thing happened with C [19-Dec-22 12:49 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is Nascent in Antares sector? Don't recall seeing the name [19-Dec-22 12:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Yep it is [19-Dec-22 12:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 QJ-149 - Nascent (QJ-149c) [19-Dec-22 12:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 I think [19-Dec-22 12:50 PM] churavis#0000 Yes, though not super close and was only recently named [19-Dec-22 12:51 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ah, nice. Colonization looks interesting, I definitely want to get in on that action eventually. Zero clue how much it costs to establish and maintain all that infra though. [19-Dec-22 12:51 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ah, QJ is in a neighboring sector [19-Dec-22 12:51 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Antares is ZV [19-Dec-22 12:52 PM] churavis#0000 Building it is expensive but maintaining it not so much [19-Dec-22 12:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Might be using the wrong term though. I assume sector is what we called the collection of same-prefix systems [19-Dec-22 12:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 hundred grand expensive or tens of millions expensive? [19-Dec-22 12:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Cause I'd absolutely love to get involved when possible. Its one of my main goals in terms of shit I'd like to do. [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Technically "Antares" is everything that is in red: http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_zlC0Uz1Il5.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_zlC0Uz1Il5.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/r0tcgXMkzjKtRAlqdOJqPithiq-I4hPj7Cd8L384G1I/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_zlC0Uz1Il5.png [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] churavis#0000 I assumed when you said Antares that you meant all the planets that mostly use the Antares CX [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 o.O [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] jackinabox86#0000 That map Arch posted is the best [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Screw the game map. [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Didn't realize y'all considered things outside the Antares region to be Antares as well [19-Dec-22 12:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://prosperous.freecluster.eu/?i=1 [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Also, donโ€™t discount at this point [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Get five bases or something and then get cheap [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 We need big, rich developed players {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ (5) [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol understood [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 There are several of us who have been here a long time and donโ€™t need the corp price all the time [19-Dec-22 12:54 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Rather have partners than cheap suppliers [19-Dec-22 12:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 To that end, @xenoxerarch , I have 36 POW and 50 SP on Nike, they are free for players upgrading their HQs. (They are used in HQ levels 6-10). Just send me a contract for 1 AIC and the number you need for your upgrades ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 12:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ Cheers bud! I'm alright for the moment, I'm still in the newbie tiers of HQ for now. Give it a few weeks ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Dec-22 12:59 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 This is why networking is everything in these games. I could've been stuck pumping out a few STL a day and barely scraping by on Benten, but after moving to Antares I've met tons of people, made trade deals, gotten a sponsorship, and am having tons of fun in the process. ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-22 01:00 PM] rune_242#0000 where do you have bases exactly? [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Deimos & Harmonia, with a 3rd coming to Heph within the next 48 hours. [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] rune_242#0000 also, I keep prefabs on all my bases for repairs [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Deimos is my starter mess, Harmonia is a farm/rig base. [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's... pretty smart actually [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] rune_242#0000 can I see a picture of your production line? [19-Dec-22 01:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah one sec [19-Dec-22 01:02 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1054473923590361159/Harmonia_Dec_19_2022.png?ex=681516de&is=6813c55e&hm=57a4dc0741c0b7dbc88d9f7c4d25260de6227c5e999621a1f298a56e85a0f131& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1054473923925921812/Deimos_Dec_19_2022.png?ex=681516de&is=6813c55e&hm=3f008f923d89d4888a66990246d129f571a768cb8051b285a7c6569db50b2012& [19-Dec-22 01:03 PM] rune_242#0000 what a mess๐Ÿ˜… [19-Dec-22 01:03 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Harmonia's at 96 H20/d, with average of 48 BEA/MAI/NUT daily, working off a contract, while I'm just doing random shit based on how much and what supplies I can afford on Deimos. [19-Dec-22 01:04 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is it? I wouldn't know lol, I just did whatever felt right at the time [19-Dec-22 01:04 PM] rune_242#0000 seems like you have quite some space left on deimos [19-Dec-22 01:04 PM] rune_242#0000 I can sell you all the mats and C to fill all your space with SME's [19-Dec-22 01:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Tons yeah, its very slow-going. As soon as that pp1 order is done I can build a 2nd BMP, PP1, or 1st Smelter. [19-Dec-22 01:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [19-Dec-22 01:05 PM] rune_242#0000 you can pay it back in 30 days [19-Dec-22 01:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 How much would that come out to total, or per smelter, out of curiosity? [19-Dec-22 01:06 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...I really should find out how to acquire PRUNner. [19-Dec-22 01:06 PM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1054474780092399676/image.png?ex=681517aa&is=6813c62a&hm=3b3362892e8904d41659938ef3086d12dab2bc96efe1785e8b2fcddd2bd6a718& [19-Dec-22 01:06 PM] rune_242#0000 I can sell most of this [19-Dec-22 01:06 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Holy crap that's a lot of stock [19-Dec-22 01:06 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 960 carbon?! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Dec-22 01:07 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's like 500 grandAIC worth of carbon, at least ;_; [19-Dec-22 01:07 PM] rune_242#0000 I make 203/day [19-Dec-22 01:07 PM] rune_242#0000 on nascent [19-Dec-22 01:07 PM] gladeowl#0000 https://github.com/Jacudibu/PRUNner/releases/tag/v0.5.5 {Embed} https://github.com/Jacudibu/PRUNner/releases/tag/v0.5.5 Release PRUNner v0.5.5 ยท Jacudibu/PRUNner Changes: Added worst- and best-case price options. Planets can now be searched by name. Thanks to @Yawnder for implementing both of them! Installation Just select the zip file for your operating ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/knPBk6Dlwts9zZxR0tovKeOarKyqpUIUuy5SBg1DMoA/https/opengraph.githubassets.com/19f961054c570a99a02e14dd656f48d58202963351c05f9a41c360be15308e26/Jacudibu/PRUNner/releases/tag/v0.5.5 [19-Dec-22 01:07 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 wow o.O [19-Dec-22 01:08 PM] rune_242#0000 this is the most helpfull tool ever [19-Dec-22 01:08 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Eyyy they have a linux version, sweet [19-Dec-22 01:09 PM] rune_242#0000 15.6k per smelter I think [19-Dec-22 01:09 PM] rune_242#0000 for the fabs [19-Dec-22 01:09 PM] rune_242#0000 and 1020 AIC for the MCG [19-Dec-22 01:09 PM] rune_242#0000 so 16.6k for one smelter [19-Dec-22 01:10 PM] dehzhas#0000 I daily drive linux, I look for linux versions of things too ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Dec-22 01:10 PM] rune_242#0000 awesome!! [19-Dec-22 01:10 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's not bad at all. Right now I can only afford 1 smelter though. Well, I have the mats homemade for 1, and have 20k AIC liquid I keep in reserve to buy inputs and invest as I produce my own BSE/BBH/etc. [19-Dec-22 01:11 PM] rune_242#0000 but you can pay it back in 30 days if you want [19-Dec-22 01:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Do you think it'd be better to go straight smelters rather than ALO extractors and O collectors with SMEs to offset inputs? [19-Dec-22 01:13 PM] churavis#0000 Specializing does offer massive efficiency bonuses so you'll likely end up doing it eventually anyways [19-Dec-22 01:13 PM] gladeowl#0000 I'll happily sell you the ALO at 60/u ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [19-Dec-22 01:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hm. Is that due to the experts feature? I just started getting experts and I've gotten 3 on Harmonia with my 12 FRMs compared to only one on Deimos, which only affects one of my 3 different industry types [19-Dec-22 01:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 XD [19-Dec-22 01:14 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm sure you'd love to sell ALO for 60/u ๐Ÿ˜› [19-Dec-22 01:15 PM] churavis#0000 It's due to the fact that efficiency categories compound together so 25% COGC and 28% 5 expert stack becomes 160% efficiency [19-Dec-22 01:15 PM] rune_242#0000 this is massive [19-Dec-22 01:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh wow okay yeah that's serious bonus territory right there [19-Dec-22 01:15 PM] rune_242#0000 compared to the 100% effiency of COL and EXT on deimos [19-Dec-22 01:16 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Efficiency only affects production time, right, not input or output? [19-Dec-22 01:16 PM] rune_242#0000 I also have 4k FLX on griffonstone if you need any [19-Dec-22 01:16 PM] rune_242#0000 exactly [19-Dec-22 01:17 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Still, that's a huge bonus. [19-Dec-22 01:17 PM] churavis#0000 Correct, but that does mean you save on consumables and area, which is the biggest bottleneck mid game [19-Dec-22 01:17 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its good that it doesn't affect input/output, it means at least that aspect is static, and you ony end up pumping out more and buying more inputs as you become more efficient [19-Dec-22 01:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah consumable cost is a function of time, not amount of product produced, so speeding your production time can be pretty helpful in that way. [19-Dec-22 01:21 PM] rune_242#0000 @xenoxerarch would you like these fabs? [19-Dec-22 01:21 PM] rune_242#0000 for your smelting expansions [19-Dec-22 01:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Pardon, was nerding out over Aurora 4X with PaxMag [19-Dec-22 01:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aye, I'm interested. Let's just run through the numbers to make sure its a worthwhile investment for you and I both, that way I don't stress over trying to pay it off, and you know for sure you'll get x money in y timeframe for z product ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Dec-22 01:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 (As an aside, I secretly hope someone names one of Nike's neighbors 'Adidas' just to cause mass-eyerolls in the future) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [19-Dec-22 01:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm the type of lunatic who'd eat the cost of settling a planet just to hear half a galaxy's worth of groans [19-Dec-22 01:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though, if I'm not mistaken, only a certain supporter tier can name planets right [19-Dec-22 01:37 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah, it's something like 100$ if I remember correctly [19-Dec-22 01:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Dayum [19-Dec-22 01:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Worth it though [19-Dec-22 01:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Well, I dunno if they ever plan to do a galaxy wipe. Hopefully not any time soon. It'd suck to lose everyone's progress. [19-Dec-22 01:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though I'd expect one on full game release. [19-Dec-22 01:44 PM] domicius#0000 You get some loot too [19-Dec-22 01:45 PM] domicius#0000 You get to keep the names on a wipe [19-Dec-22 01:45 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh sweet! [19-Dec-22 01:46 PM] domicius#0000 At least, I assume that's why there were prenamed planets last wipe [19-Dec-22 01:46 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Are wipes a periodic timed thing, or just 'alright major update breaks the universe, wipe time y'all' [19-Dec-22 01:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 They are planning another one, but it's not expected for a while. [19-Dec-22 01:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Good to know. [19-Dec-22 01:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Basically not until they have enough breaking changes piled up that they can't apply to the existing universe [19-Dec-22 01:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's about as good a protocol as one could ask for. Not frivolous scheduled wipes like some games. I'm okay with that. [19-Dec-22 02:28 PM] jackinabox86#0000 @xenoxerarch letโ€™s get you moving. I can do your 200k starting grant for new members now versus following your trial [19-Dec-22 02:29 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Just send me a contract at ANT for a DW at 200k or something [19-Dec-22 02:29 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Didn't realize that was a thing. Alright, awesome. I can properly expand with that kind of liquidity. [19-Dec-22 02:34 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Particularly since you can buy fabs and everything at corp prices [19-Dec-22 02:34 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Post in the appropriate planet channel and weโ€™ll fill orders as possible [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Stupid question but how do I send you a contract directly on ANT (Antares Station, right?) [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I only know how to put up the general local market ad things [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] gladeowl#0000 CONTD on the buffer [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Fonts [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Lol, contd [19-Dec-22 02:35 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I have 8 BDE, 14 BSE and 53 MCG on Deimos you can have for an SME base [19-Dec-22 02:41 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 "ID V7DZEY7 Created 29 seconds ago Name Corp Grant Preamble As per Discord agreement; the most exotic, gourmet bottle of water in the universe. Bon apetit~ Partner Antler Status open" [19-Dec-22 02:42 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol sent [19-Dec-22 02:43 PM] yjhasaday#0000 @xenoxerarch Welcome to OOG! I'm just catching up now but it looks like you have already been directed to the #welcome and #rules-faq, check those out and let us know if you have any questions. Don't hesitate to take advantage of the corp rates on our spreadsheet - I agree with allocater above, you shouldn't worry about trying to match our prices at this stage, just enjoy the stable, low prices ๐Ÿ˜Ž ! We're still making profit on these prices and they help you grow faster so its a win-win for everyone. I tried to read most of what I missed today but its quite a bit so I did some skimming lol; have you mentioned what industry you're in or what your plans are for expansion?! Let us know, its always fun to hear what plans new OOG-ers come up with and see how we can help out! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [19-Dec-22 02:45 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 @yjhasaday Cheers bud! Aye, my initial Iedit: Deimos) base is a constructor/prefab setup, and my second (Edit: Harmonia) base is farms. One of the corpbros is sponsoring me a Heph base setup in a few hours, so I'm in good hands ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Dec-22 02:46 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Based on the suggestions and protips of the folks here, I'm most likely going to be branching off my Deimos base into AL smelting as well [19-Dec-22 02:55 PM] yjhasaday#0000 It all sounds good! Good luck with it all and keep us posted if you need anything [19-Dec-22 02:56 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Will do! Y'all have a nice, active bunch here. I've learned a ton about the game just in the short time I've been here. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) ๐ŸŽ‰ [19-Dec-22 04:56 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Dumb question, how do I open the galactic map via buffer? forgot the code lol. [19-Dec-22 04:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Super worthless map [19-Dec-22 04:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Get others from the community resources page [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Need to replot my course to harmonia from harmonia's star, as apparently running pure STL will take me forever and a day to get there, so I need to find the next nearest star to maneuver off of [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I like the ftl map to understand the actual relationship of planets [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 But there are others that mirror the game [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t know the command [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 damn [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 But open a new buffer [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 And type in map [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I bet itโ€™ll show up [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 The right command [19-Dec-22 04:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That worked. Its MU.( My dumbass just didn't see the 'universe map' text because I had my buffer so small that text went offscreen.) [20-Dec-22 01:41 AM] allocater#0000 this is my favorite map https://prun.plexucra.de/map/ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Dec-22 03:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Anyone else's game just randomly crash? I'm stuck on the Apex loading screen now. [20-Dec-22 03:06 AM] allocater#0000 looks good for me [20-Dec-22 03:36 AM] rune_242#0000 the max immirgration was 30 percent right? [20-Dec-22 03:38 AM] allocater#0000 yup [20-Dec-22 03:38 AM] allocater#0000 for PIO SET TEC [20-Dec-22 03:38 AM] rune_242#0000 right right [20-Dec-22 04:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 @archielvahr Hey bud, do you still sell COF @ 350? My 5 new Deimos SME's could use some caffeine infusions ๐Ÿ™‚ Let me know when you'll next swing by and I'll set an ad up for COF/DW/RAT. [20-Dec-22 07:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, I sure do! On Harmonia I have 500 COF @ 350, 400 RAT @ 50, 500 DW @50 Norwick 200 COF, 2500 RAT, 1000 DW ANT: 500 COF, 200 RAT, 800 DW [20-Dec-22 04:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sweet! One question though, if ANT means Antares Statio, is it even possible to local market trade there directly without using the CX? I can only put up shipping ads there for some reason. [20-Dec-22 04:32 PM] allocater#0000 on ant we use custom contracts or CX if there is no activity [20-Dec-22 04:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ahh ok! [20-Dec-22 04:41 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Custom contracts up @ANT for 20 COF, 100 RAT, & 100 DW. {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (2) [20-Dec-22 04:53 PM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1054894219141058620/image.png?ex=6814a40c&is=6813528c&hm=09968de5acb590a8d11ab59be6dd82dec52a7e7e99c283d732f297ef06c606ce& [20-Dec-22 04:53 PM] rune_242#0000 500 days!! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (10) [20-Dec-22 04:54 PM] dehzhas#0000 Congrats!!! [20-Dec-22 05:10 PM] zipatsu#0000 Here's to the next 500! ๐Ÿฅ‚ โœŒ๏ธ [20-Dec-22 08:56 PM] exeler#0000 Speaking of. Last time I checked someone had a rather large LHP order just above yours so I just listed my LHP at a high price instead. Shoot me a contract for whenever you need some. The amount listed on the CX is my available inventory on ANT {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Dec-22 10:30 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Congrats!! You have built quite the company! Its been a pleasure doing business with you ever since our first contract ๐Ÿ˜ [21-Dec-22 10:25 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 There were no RBH on the CX so I put up the 15 I had for 25k each and they were taken in one transaction, that about double the Corp rate. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ (2) [21-Dec-22 11:47 PM] erklein#0000 Does anyone have a UPF/APF I can commission? I want to build an EMC on Harmonia [21-Dec-22 11:48 PM] churavis#0000 I can build you a DOU and TCU but I don't understand why you think it would be worth it [21-Dec-22 11:49 PM] erklein#0000 It's boring only having SST and INF [21-Dec-22 11:49 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah, they really need to balance the upkeep [22-Dec-22 01:36 AM] allocater#0000 I can do all APF stuff [22-Dec-22 01:53 AM] churavis#0000 I've already bought the APF inputs from you {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [22-Dec-22 04:36 AM] habix3956#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [22-Dec-22 10:56 AM] insensless72#0000 Joined the server. [22-Dec-22 10:56 AM] churavis#0000 Is that the real Insensless? [22-Dec-22 10:57 AM] insensless72#0000 Alive and well my friend [22-Dec-22 10:57 AM] churavis#0000 Yeah, we're so glad to have you here [22-Dec-22 10:58 AM] insensless72#0000 Im happy to see you guys are still going strong! [22-Dec-22 11:02 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I asked Insensless for some help with some admin Discord stuff - thanks again for helping out! [22-Dec-22 11:03 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Also a warm welcome to @habix3956! ๐Ÿ‘‹ Please check out the #welcome and #rules-faq channels and let us know what planets you are on so we can set your roles. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! [22-Dec-22 11:07 AM] jackinabox86#0000 big welcome to Habix [22-Dec-22 11:08 AM] jackinabox86#0000 did you invite him, YJ? I wonder if we should put something on the welcome page that says if someone wants to invite someone (which is presumably fine), maybe they can flag that they did the inviting and the connection to the new player? [22-Dec-22 11:08 AM] jackinabox86#0000 We've never really gotten a random or anything, but it's nice to have a bit of info to start with [22-Dec-22 11:08 AM] jackinabox86#0000 like, they sell RAT or they sell dope irl {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [22-Dec-22 11:10 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I did not invite but I've done deals with them in the past. @habix3956 do you sell dope irl?? ๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [22-Dec-22 11:18 AM] allocater#0000 I invited habix. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [22-Dec-22 11:38 AM] jackinabox86#0000 but I thought you were still a trial, allocater? Who said you could be growing our ranks! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [22-Dec-22 12:20 PM] jackinabox86#0000 anyone around to help me with this secret santa thing? {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ… (2) [22-Dec-22 12:21 PM] churavis#0000 What do you need? [22-Dec-22 12:22 PM] jackinabox86#0000 just someone to give money and a message to to pass on to Dover [22-Dec-22 12:23 PM] churavis#0000 I thought piboy was offering to make gifts anonymous? [22-Dec-22 12:24 PM] jackinabox86#0000 his message said I or my third party could do it. I don't think he does it for everyone because then he'd have to do like 100 transactions to cover everyone [22-Dec-22 12:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 if anyone is willing to help, please let me know [22-Dec-22 12:31 PM] jackinabox86#0000 you have to accept one contract, send one contract, and send one com or discord message [22-Dec-22 01:35 PM] allocater#0000 whoops, drove it into the ground without noticing {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1055569228436078682/image.png?ex=68151e73&is=6813ccf3&hm=7f89e2599a89aaf60a44e13d78af1e014d172aaed749afb0c940254e913ba9d7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [22-Dec-22 01:42 PM] churavis#0000 You didn't notice it taking longer and longer? No wonder we have a fuel shortage {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [22-Dec-22 01:44 PM] dehzhas#0000 Your fuel is probably leaking out the cracks in that hull {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [22-Dec-22 01:45 PM] allocater#0000 I mean, planets move in, planets move out, nobody can explain that ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Dec-22 01:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm saving my ship repairs for one of those faction contracts [22-Dec-22 01:47 PM] dehzhas#0000 You might be waiting a bit... the drop rate on that is pretty low. [22-Dec-22 01:54 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah, and it's not like you can't repair a ship early if you really want the reputation points {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [22-Dec-22 02:22 PM] habix3956#0000 @yjhasaday hey, tnx! I buy weed irl. Good enough? ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Dec-22 02:23 PM] churavis#0000 I pull weeds irl, does that count? [22-Dec-22 02:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I used to have a job where I counted weeds. seriously. Counted and identified weeds in these 6 inch by 12 inch rectangles. [22-Dec-22 02:51 PM] churavis#0000 Did you ever smoke any of the weeds after counting them? [22-Dec-22 02:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 no they were tiny and uninteresting [22-Dec-22 02:59 PM] churavis#0000 Why would anyone bother counting weeds that aren't smokeable? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [22-Dec-22 03:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 to write software that estimates weed emergence rates ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Dec-22 03:35 PM] yjhasaday#0000 hahaha consumer instead of supplier eh? I guess our search for a space grass supplier continues ๐Ÿ˜† [22-Dec-22 04:49 PM] domicius#0000 Molp does me a solid! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1055618002399281193/Screenshot_20221222_224805_Chrome.jpg?ex=6814a320&is=681351a0&hm=97c34392b107a16eea9757026df23bc9d4540a04b1f058ae58b6108ad4cf10cc& {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (3) ๐Ÿค˜ (2) [23-Dec-22 01:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hey guys, is there ever any point to removing/not assigning/unassigning experts? Not sure if getting rid of my construction experts after dismantling my PP1/BMP will speed up/affect metallurgy expert rates [23-Dec-22 01:56 AM] churavis#0000 You can't have more than 6 experts in one base at a time, that is all [23-Dec-22 01:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ohhh [24-Dec-22 04:35 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm a real boy now! (aka OOG Shareholder <3) {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) ๐Ÿ’ช [24-Dec-22 04:36 AM] gladeowl#0000 You should probably request the role lol [24-Dec-22 04:37 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...Good point [26-Dec-22 01:07 AM] martin1194#0000 Joined the server. [26-Dec-22 01:12 AM] martin1194#0000 hello!! Yuen corp brings me here. nice to meet u all. : P {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [26-Dec-22 01:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 There ya go! Welcome to OOG and the general channel ๐Ÿ˜‰ [26-Dec-22 01:18 AM] martin1194#0000 I am a 3 weeks new player. The company is called "TREE Company". I keep have a contract with yuen corp and my major base is in VH-331a. {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [26-Dec-22 01:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 @yjhasaday Hey bud, still waiting on you to provision that H. I've been landed for 2 days ๐Ÿ˜‰ (Just realized it myself lol, thought I just needed to pick up) [26-Dec-22 01:30 AM] churavis#0000 Why are you messaging him here instead of in a PM? [26-Dec-22 01:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Good point [26-Dec-22 02:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1056855879384838154/image.png?ex=681486bd&is=6813353d&hm=59f274453f657d4820087ad379e1da81ef8a23a506d3cb3016ab284da6f1639c& [26-Dec-22 02:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 3.5M AIC seems to be a big number for me. I paid back the loan, and the stability level instantly became C. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [26-Dec-22 03:21 AM] martin1194#0000 I am trying to learn to type my info in excel but it seems too hard to learn. Can anyone tell me on which page I should insert data on? [26-Dec-22 03:25 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 If you don't know the basics at least, I suggest a youtube tutorial on basic excel. That'll teach you enough to figure it out. [26-Dec-22 03:28 AM] martin1194#0000 I know how to use excel. But I not sure which page I need to put my info inside. Only "Price" and "Player Activity and Base List"? [26-Dec-22 03:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Price is got corp priced goods. If you're new, and still pretty broke, don't bother. Just use that page as a reference for when you'd like to buy from fellow corps. On planet tab just scroll down to where I just put TreeBear in the lefthand column in green and fill in the industries you own on whichever planet you have bases on {Reactions} goodluck [26-Dec-22 03:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 As for the base list tab... I haven't even put my stuff on their yet lol, so I'll take a look and get back to you on that. [26-Dec-22 03:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 @martin1194 Just do me a favor and don't touch the lines on the bottom [26-Dec-22 03:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Just found out those are coded to auto-update and now am having to go back and manually check any that have been touched (mainly by my dumbass self) [26-Dec-22 03:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 its a quick fix at least [26-Dec-22 03:41 AM] martin1194#0000 Maybe not me , my last edit is on "Planets" tag to change my name correctly and change the line color. [26-Dec-22 05:34 AM] martin1194#0000 I think I haven't any detail need to type in "Planet" tab. becuz my base in VH-331a. [26-Dec-22 05:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can call it Promitor directly, which is more famous. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [26-Dec-22 07:06 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I wouldnโ€™t worry about much beyond the prices tab on the spreadsheet [26-Dec-22 07:06 AM] jackinabox86#0000 And as a new player, you can take a couple weeks to figure out what you want to focus on [26-Dec-22 09:41 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, I got your PM, sorry again for missing it! Filled now [26-Dec-22 09:56 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome to OOG @martin1194! Don't worry too much about the spreadsheet right now, at this point it is more a resource for you to see which of us can supply you. Once you expand a bit you can start helping out and list some of your items. As mentioned above the only tabs you need to focus on are the first two - "Planets" and "Prices". The others are ongoing experiments or data caches that we're playing with. Please take a moment to read through the #welcome and #rules-faq channels - let us know if you have any questions! Also can you let me know which planets you are on for your roles? [26-Dec-22 10:13 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Anyone else having problems with FIO? It still loads for me but it has been weeks (I think) since the burn rates for my consumables were accurate. If there is another site that people use for managing consumable burn rates/stocks let me know! [26-Dec-22 10:41 AM] jackinabox86#0000 You may need to logout and relog on the extension for prun [26-Dec-22 10:41 AM] jackinabox86#0000 They did an update that logged people out so their data isnโ€™t flowing over to fio. Easy fix [26-Dec-22 11:54 AM] martin1194#0000 Good. XenoXerarch helped me put the name on "Planets" tab, but there is no planet I can add. HAHA. I will try my best to provide produce in "Prices" tab. [26-Dec-22 12:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Are you planning on expanding in ANT space? [26-Dec-22 12:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 We do the vast majority of our stuff in this region [26-Dec-22 12:10 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Itโ€™s a good area [26-Dec-22 12:29 PM] martin1194#0000 Maybe it to extend near HRT first and provide consumption items to corp. [26-Dec-22 07:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'm going to sponsor him an AL base in deimos. This one only needs to input some C from the outside, and it can even be bought from LM. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Dec-22 08:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 The more the merrier! [27-Dec-22 02:34 PM] allocater#0000 15min old account buys N on random planet? ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1057396112446730320/image.png?ex=68152c5e&is=6813dade&hm=5316f749a753c4ac7f5d12b67f1c0077f8af116c003c3f1c5eb55993e6bc2eaf& [27-Dec-22 02:38 PM] churavis#0000 Faction contract? [27-Dec-22 05:14 PM] exeler#0000 Could be a COLIQed company? [27-Dec-22 06:11 PM] jackinabox86#0000 This is definitely someone starting a new company with shenanigans [27-Dec-22 06:12 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Must be at a friend or family members, since theyโ€™d need to have the person go pro [27-Dec-22 07:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 User is 9 days old, company a few hours. Has no bases! [27-Dec-22 07:07 PM] churavis#0000 Maybe he just doesn't know what he's doing [27-Dec-22 07:08 PM] exeler#0000 Or they know exactly what they're doing. [27-Dec-22 07:10 PM] dehzhas#0000 Technically, you can play this game and make money without ever building a base.... just not easily [27-Dec-22 07:13 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Could be a really smart start post COLIQ [27-Dec-22 07:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 50% profit off that selling into the bid at ANT [27-Dec-22 07:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 so maybe I'm dumb [27-Dec-22 07:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I did a lot of LM scouting when I was new bc I couldn't do anything else with 3 buildings [27-Dec-22 07:28 PM] yuen8241#0000 In the cycle of fabs price increase, it is faster than production to sell all the initial materials and then make money through CX. [27-Dec-22 07:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 A lot of new players dream of running a shipping empire, technically possible. Financially not too great, but that's not obvious when you start at first. [27-Dec-22 07:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 Although buying bulk loads and selling them on the CX seems more viable than doing shipping contracts. That 500 N could be worth a cool 33,500 AIC on the CX, And 13,500 profit is better than you'd get with a shipping contract generally [27-Dec-22 07:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 In the early stage of the game, because players have less capital, it is more profitable to make profits through cross-CX trading than to directly start low-end industrial production. [27-Dec-22 07:42 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have tested it before. I sold the original materials for cross-cx transactions, and the time to earn the first 200,000 AIC was greatly advanced. I can wait until I have enough funds to buy back the building materials before starting over. [27-Dec-22 07:44 PM] yuen8241#0000 The payback period of planet like deimos is usually about 15 days. But if you are lucky in the market, you will soon double it. [27-Dec-22 09:58 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I made a lot of extra cash shipping LST from Nike to the CX when I started back, it paid better than shipping contracts and was more reliable. [28-Dec-22 12:21 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hey folks. Question. How do I trade currency? Someone paid me in... ICA? Whatever the hell that is. [28-Dec-22 12:21 PM] churavis#0000 Allocater would love to trade you for AIC and he won't charge a fee {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ [29-Dec-22 06:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Enter the bottleneck period๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1057994379345788968/image.png?ex=6814b68c&is=6813650c&hm=9f1b0878f46f70c8411e9fe95142c75426b8c7008984ac4d86e1b009c47ac4bb& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [29-Dec-22 08:37 AM] domicius#0000 Ah, yes. [29-Dec-22 09:11 AM] allocater#0000 time to sponsor permits that are cheaper than yours ๐Ÿ˜› [29-Dec-22 09:12 AM] churavis#0000 Or build a PP4 supply chain [29-Dec-22 10:01 AM] domicius#0000 That's what I'm doing slowly slowly [29-Dec-22 11:46 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Or stop devoting any space to readily available tier 1 products like AL and C {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ‘€ [29-Dec-22 11:51 AM] churavis#0000 I wouldn't want to be vulnerable to the wild swings of the AL and C markets personally [29-Dec-22 11:54 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t know. At our size, you can make enough money that those swings arenโ€™t worth giving up more lucrative chains [29-Dec-22 11:55 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Yuen seems to be fine buying everything on CXs [29-Dec-22 11:55 AM] churavis#0000 It's not just the swings but the shortages as well [29-Dec-22 10:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 I don't mind buying products like AL and C from CX. [30-Dec-22 12:02 AM] habix3956#0000 Anyone had problems with unloading shipping contracts? When I click fulfill on last step the button turns orange/animated, but it never finishes [30-Dec-22 12:03 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1058264054428348426/image.png?ex=681508f4&is=6813b774&hm=5e41fd2cd717a18359330c699d45afb61e5201e75b905b90287107a8bde3fdfc& [30-Dec-22 12:04 AM] habix3956#0000 Could it be that the user doesn't have base/warehouse on nike? [30-Dec-22 12:29 AM] gladeowl#0000 It could be that. Or that their storage is full. [30-Dec-22 12:30 AM] gladeowl#0000 Just message them about it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Dec-22 12:30 AM] habix3956#0000 I offloaded in my warehouse and DM him [31-Dec-22 08:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Does a ship need to be empty in order to repair it? [31-Dec-22 08:39 AM] balbar#0000 no, but you have to be at a base. CX doesn't count [31-Dec-22 11:57 AM] rune_242#0000 there is no INS in the CX anymore๐Ÿ˜… [31-Dec-22 12:22 PM] churavis#0000 I have 2k INS on Nike [31-Dec-22 12:25 PM] rune_242#0000 I'm flying it all to the CX right now to make massive profits! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡ธ (2) ๐Ÿ‡น (2) ๐Ÿ…พ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ‡ณ (2) ๐Ÿ‡ฝ (2) ๐Ÿ’ฐ (2) [31-Dec-22 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 ahh no, I took them to heph because it had a shipyard, but I don't have a base there ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [31-Dec-22 04:53 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Warehouse is fine [01-Jan-23 11:35 PM] churavis#0000 20 queue slots is amazing [02-Jan-23 01:06 AM] exeler#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [02-Jan-23 01:06 AM] exeler#0000 I need that specifically for BMP ๐Ÿ˜… [02-Jan-23 05:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 I am infected with COVID-19, so the contract will be processed slowly these days.๐Ÿ˜ญ {Reactions} hugplz (5) [02-Jan-23 10:45 AM] jackinabox86#0000 anyone heard from Dez? Did he die? My bases are getting very hungry! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅœ (2) [02-Jan-23 11:15 AM] allocater#0000 Don't become addicted to the consumable deliveries. It will take hold of you and you will resend their absence ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jan-23 11:59 AM] churavis#0000 https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-water-gif-20405958 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-water-gif-20405958 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZC-kV_0lL8z4_k6D-zmDBRCUOk0qMiHb8gEIJZLp_bk/https/media.tenor.com/7VH4ou1UkssAAAAD/mad-max-water.png [02-Jan-23 02:47 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Dehz is currently under the weather and has been unavailable all week. [02-Jan-23 02:48 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Wouldnโ€™t want to be the one unwinding from all that! [02-Jan-23 03:38 PM] Deleted User#0000 Had to make alternative plans, too. Not seen my deliveries from last Monday. Ah, well! Figured some interruption would come up, eventually. [02-Jan-23 03:39 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Getting worried, haven't heard a peep in days. I can deal with the logistics crash, more concerned about dude being so sick he disappears for a week. [02-Jan-23 03:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, hope heโ€™s ok. His services have been great [02-Jan-23 03:52 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Also, we can buy anything you produce if you have a glut in his absence [02-Jan-23 03:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its pretty much just tons of DW, assuming I can source 2k H2O a day to keep it running. Think I ran dry 4 separate times this week. [02-Jan-23 03:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Having to fly from ANT to another system then back to Heph to avoid the insane STL lag has been annoying to say the least. [02-Jan-23 03:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 ? [02-Jan-23 03:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Ant to Heph has been very fast for me recently [02-Jan-23 03:56 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Whatโ€™s the condition on your ship? [02-Jan-23 03:56 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its just a starter ship [02-Jan-23 03:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Unless I go nuts on fuel, its quite a long trip [02-Jan-23 03:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 It still decays [02-Jan-23 03:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 You should be paying like 150 for 12 hour trips [02-Jan-23 03:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ah true, haven't even looked into that [02-Jan-23 03:58 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Something is off if youโ€™re flying to other systems. Unless you think 12 hours is a long trip? [02-Jan-23 03:58 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 both ships are around 96%ish [02-Jan-23 03:58 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Yeah, no slowdown until itโ€™s below 80% condition [02-Jan-23 03:58 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 It told me over two days last time I checked the trip, so I just mentally said fuck that and started going Ant->Deimos->Heph [02-Jan-23 03:58 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 though I do tend to fly at minimum fuel, or about as close to it as I can get [02-Jan-23 04:00 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I always go at least one click above minimum fuel. For like 80 AIC you go wayyy faster [02-Jan-23 04:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is it just me or is there a weird bug where if you click the fuel bar repeatedly on the same tick it'll use the same amount of fuel but give vastly different times? I've been shaving off an hour or two on my travel times by doing this and it feels... broken, or like I'm not understanding something going on in the background [02-Jan-23 04:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Dunno if the game is simulating orbits/facing or something [02-Jan-23 04:05 PM] erklein#0000 I've noticed that as well. Sometimes it also changes the amount of fuel used by 1 or 2 [02-Jan-23 04:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aye, that too. [02-Jan-23 06:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Itโ€™s consistent for everyone [02-Jan-23 06:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Always worth a few clicks [02-Jan-23 09:26 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'm glad that I have stocked consumables for at least 15 days and raw materials for 7 days, so that my production will not be affected when I get sick. [02-Jan-23 09:45 PM] churavis#0000 Only 15? [02-Jan-23 10:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah this is definitely a thing. Sometimes it can swing wildly. makes it very hard to try to reverse engineer any flight math [02-Jan-23 10:11 PM] exeler#0000 Most of the time my ANT->Heph an vice versa flights are VERY fast. I've never even considered flying to Deimos and back as a quicker option [03-Jan-23 05:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 The minimum is 15 days.๐Ÿ˜† {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1059799981323714631/image.png?ex=6814b0a5&is=68135f25&hm=de9f5b0d316f71a860888e68f71ab66870b42d97681d0de57270e12f3c8d0f98& [03-Jan-23 06:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I want to be this guy when I grow up ๐Ÿ˜› [03-Jan-23 06:59 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm seriously tempted to relocate my entire FP base to a water planet. Trying to keep them supplied is stressing me out. [03-Jan-23 07:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That or knock down a few buildings and replace them with storage, but I'd honestly rather not have to deal with shipping in asteroid-sized volumes of water lol [03-Jan-23 07:02 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 With that said, what planets (beside Harmonia, where I have FRMs) in the local ANT space would y'all suggest as viable for mass-FP DW production? I need to figure out what to build on Heph as well, once I begin relocating FPs. [03-Jan-23 07:30 AM] balbar#0000 Ice station Alpha, i guess. Big issue is INS right now (and to a lesser extend HSE) [03-Jan-23 08:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Why don't you build RIG in etherwind, FP in kw-602c and BMP in heph? [03-Jan-23 09:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hm, that's not a bad plan... [03-Jan-23 10:18 AM] allocater#0000 my FPs are on etherwind and KW-602c [03-Jan-23 10:18 AM] allocater#0000 local water and 8h jump from etherwind [03-Jan-23 10:32 AM] habix3956#0000 now officially ooga newb ๐Ÿ˜„ thanks for having me {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) [03-Jan-23 10:50 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-20107028 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-20107028 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/OistM10vAJCcrHjEh-LswjkqOZd33Z7lLKqCH_630tc/https/media.tenor.com/AvRN6GlmzXsAAAAD/the-god-father-marlon-brando.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿง ๐Ÿ’ช (2) [03-Jan-23 11:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Just rewatched it for the billionth time, nice [03-Jan-23 11:01 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 With these corp prices, it really is a deal you can't refuse [03-Jan-23 11:02 AM] zipatsu#0000 They're great deals for sure, one day I might ask you for a favour though ๐Ÿ˜‰ [03-Jan-23 11:02 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And when that day comes, I will be obliged to accept. [03-Jan-23 11:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 mfw accidentally cosplays the mafia XD [03-Jan-23 11:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 18th SME* now active on Deimos. If anyone needs AL, boop me. [03-Jan-23 11:08 AM] zipatsu#0000 Step 1 of the plan to control the universe is taking over the H2O supply chain [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] churavis#0000 I'm not sure I want AL made in a food processing plant {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 They who controls the drinking water, controls the galaxy [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 FPs are on Heph ๐Ÿ˜› [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 OH [03-Jan-23 11:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Damn it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Jan-23 11:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 OSHA/FDA would like to have a conversation with you [03-Jan-23 11:10 AM] zipatsu#0000 " *It's the lunch trays! They're being recycled I swear* " {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Jan-23 11:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 99 metric tons of recycled lunch trays, 99 tons of lunch trays... Melt one down, sell it at a ridiculous markup on the local market and bathe in space credits, 98 metric tons of recycled lunch trays... [03-Jan-23 11:13 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Those things were dangerous. I narrowly missed the opportunity to experience the lethal lunchtime bludgeons of the prior generation. [03-Jan-23 11:16 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wonder how light/heavy they were. Hm. [03-Jan-23 01:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 @dehzhas HE LIVES! [03-Jan-23 01:38 PM] dehzhas#0000 Hey guys... yeah I'm back. Small PSA: I got utterly wrecked with some sort of stomach illness. I'm alive but will now be playing catch up on all the deliveries/payments I owe everyone. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [03-Jan-23 01:46 PM] churavis#0000 No worries, we're just glad you're alive [03-Jan-23 04:08 PM] domicius#0000 Take it easy. Will be here for a while yet! [04-Jan-23 01:44 AM] habix3956#0000 This might be a stupid question.. is it worth buying luxury consumables for pioneers? (does the speed-up somehow cover the expense) [04-Jan-23 01:45 AM] habix3956#0000 My excel sheet isn't that complex yet xD [04-Jan-23 01:58 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yes, it's nearly always worth buying luxuries. Try the Prunner app for base planning if spreadsheets aren't your thing. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [04-Jan-23 12:04 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Got baited by a guy that wanted to get into a long term contract and ended up building 70 RIGS on Etherwind. So if someone wants a stable delivery of water let me know. Making about 3k per day. Can deliver it for 23/u or you pick it up for 20/u from Etherwind. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (2) ๐Ÿ‡ญ (2) 2๏ธโƒฃ (2) ๐Ÿ‡ด (2) ๐Ÿ‡ณ (2) ๐Ÿ…พ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ‘€ (3) [04-Jan-23 12:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you're delivering, I'll take a shipload on Norwick. Just send me a bill [04-Jan-23 12:11 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Would you be OK with waiting 2-3 days? And I can deliver 10k for you. Ended up going in debt to buy a ship because of him too ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [04-Jan-23 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ouch, heh. [04-Jan-23 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I can wait [04-Jan-23 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can pre-pay too, hehe [04-Jan-23 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can chew through 10k H2O in 3 days making DW. Got plenty of time to wait since they are doing MEAs right now. [04-Jan-23 12:17 PM] jackinabox86#0000 we got lots of people who need water; I'm sure you'll find lots of takers {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [04-Jan-23 12:21 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Ill send you the contract once I have the water if that's OK. No need to pre-pay ^^ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Jan-23 02:54 PM] camodragon09#0000 Joined the server. [04-Jan-23 03:02 PM] _bojidar#0000 @camodragon09 Hey. Welcome. Look around and ask if any questions [04-Jan-23 03:05 PM] camodragon09#0000 HEY! thank you... was just reading thru the rules and welcome page ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [04-Jan-23 04:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Welcome Camo! [04-Jan-23 06:09 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome! ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Jan-23 05:17 AM] camodragon09#0000 Thank you ๐Ÿ˜ ... I was invited to look around, and am curious if you have any use for someone based on Katoa? I see you are based in Antares area, with many planets; but I am not sure you want to develop that far away, or with a different 'faction'. ๐Ÿค” [05-Jan-23 06:50 AM] _bojidar#0000 You can always settle planets in Ant area :) and even rebate in area [05-Jan-23 08:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 Got lucky with this contract: http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-05_07-55-39.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-05_07-55-39.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HplzpI9qtKaHMF1BkSFeMU8HIJvqrtLXnrd7vpc3L5o/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-05_07-55-39.png [05-Jan-23 08:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 MTPs on one of the few planets that makes them [05-Jan-23 08:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 even with 159 faction rep, that's still a loss ๐Ÿ˜› [05-Jan-23 08:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 That's 10 MEA, probably 30k of value [05-Jan-23 08:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1060562066513076284/image.png?ex=6814d364&is=681381e4&hm=8870e2ec19dcfae931097c747849ab364cd434cba0c9d498bb228983ffea7426& [05-Jan-23 08:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 Many contracts are worthless. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [05-Jan-23 08:36 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome @camodragon09! We operate primarily in the Antares area, some of us have bases in the Benton/Hortus areas but we don't list them on our corp spreadsheet (already so many planet columns ๐Ÿ˜… - hopefully you were able to view the sheet from the #welcome page?). It can be helpful to have some folks settled in areas outside of Antares to bring in some supplies that aren't easily available in our region, if you're interested in something like that? I know us fuel makers are always looking for HE3 lol You're welcome to hang around here for a week or so and take advantage of our group pricing and fuel stations, then if you don't see a future in Antares you can head back to Benton. Let us know if you have any questions! [05-Jan-23 11:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Anyone else's planet info screen refusing to load? [05-Jan-23 11:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Getting a weird 'Component Failed to Render' error, red bars, but only on planet info tab. [05-Jan-23 11:56 AM] churavis#0000 It's not happening to me right now but does happen on occasion, just refresh [05-Jan-23 11:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hrm. Refresh didn't fix it. Ah well, its no big deal. [05-Jan-23 12:05 PM] gladeowl#0000 Closing and opening a new buffer usually does it for me. [05-Jan-23 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 The map and the spinning planet both seem to render kinda poorly sometimes [05-Jan-23 03:11 PM] camodragon09#0000 Thank you [06-Jan-23 06:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 Small molecule drugs are really helpful for the treatment of COVID-19. I'm basically cured.๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช [06-Jan-23 06:58 AM] habix3956#0000 When I had it, I only noticed that I do, because I couldn't smell the coffee when opening the can [06-Jan-23 06:58 AM] habix3956#0000 Regained my smell in a week or so [06-Jan-23 08:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 Obviously, you're lucky. I had a fever and a sore throat, so I immediately took small molecule drugs. [08-Jan-23 02:08 AM] habix3956#0000 I tried out prunner, but it has errors in db [08-Jan-23 02:09 AM] habix3956#0000 It shows me ext can do 30alo per batch on desmos, but in reality it's 28.. also can't find Nike on base planner - as if it doesn't exist [08-Jan-23 02:09 AM] habix3956#0000 anyone had some similar problems? [08-Jan-23 02:09 AM] habix3956#0000 tried deleting cache, extracted newest version to another folder - same thing [08-Jan-23 02:21 AM] churavis#0000 It gets the batch numbers wrong sometimes but the daily output is still accurate [08-Jan-23 02:22 AM] churavis#0000 For Nike, you need to enable SEA planets, otherwise it won't allow up in the results {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Jan-23 03:07 AM] habix3956#0000 Can't seem to find the sea option [08-Jan-23 03:07 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061571874632511489/image.png?ex=68148b59&is=681339d9&hm=8ab86187392afd44d2456258a1f3a82c4e336c85e6e40297aebfbe0f08ead81f& [08-Jan-23 03:07 AM] habix3956#0000 ohhh [08-Jan-23 03:07 AM] habix3956#0000 now I see it lol. had to post the picture [08-Jan-23 03:08 AM] habix3956#0000 Thought the "optional planet modifiers" are there to filter down on top of surface type (AND condition instead of OR) [08-Jan-23 06:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061622950748487740/image.png?ex=6814baeb&is=6813696b&hm=2b9d6a4a20a7f8841b01e7006b7160a973bedb2ffa7aad80540b5771ce38afd1& [08-Jan-23 06:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 Can I really burn so much fuel?๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅน (2) [08-Jan-23 07:52 AM] habix3956#0000 about 1000x more than me ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Jan-23 11:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe you also buy very expensive fuel, like I do: http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-18.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-18.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/iIs7UI-jSWEmUcVlKupxU4wZ_JRMDiVZOhPCZJA2gsY/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-18.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [08-Jan-23 11:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 haha yeah, my books are cooked ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Jan-23 11:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-49.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-49.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_dgs4MCE4A-vjPDdKhJNXPB6ZwuoJuBVJYzDwKFhcNk/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-08_11-22-49.png [08-Jan-23 05:16 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Archiel taking faster than light to a whole new level I see [08-Jan-23 05:55 PM] erklein#0000 @OOG Shareholder I just saw that the lowest priced LC on CX is 12000. If anyone with scientists needs LC, I have limited supply/can make on Heph for 5000/u. Updated on Production Doc as well [08-Jan-23 07:11 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Anyone here successfully run PRUNner on a Linux distro? Finally got around to downloading the Linux PRUNner zip, aaand it has no readme, no executable, and file types I've literally never heard of. My computer doesn't even recognize the existence of the actual 'PRUNner' file type lmao [08-Jan-23 07:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Might just try to run from zip and see if it magically figures itself out [08-Jan-23 07:12 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 You just run it from the shell like ./prunner or whatever, it worked for me a few months ago when I was using it on Linux [08-Jan-23 07:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 oooh there's an idea [08-Jan-23 07:12 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 You have to extract the whole zip [08-Jan-23 07:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Thankfully you can just set random shit to executable and drag it into the terminal. Somehow worked lol [08-Jan-23 07:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh Linux, you and your strange mystical ways of me having no idea wtf I'm actually doing 90% of the time. [08-Jan-23 07:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 What distro? [08-Jan-23 07:16 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Just basic Mint, practically the newbie linux distro [08-Jan-23 07:17 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Zorin is nice for newbies [08-Jan-23 07:51 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061824507179978762/image.png?ex=6814cde2&is=68137c62&hm=38e4bc1ae5036ce13a92b496de7870256bdc1730affabd8510cbb792ce302f75& [08-Jan-23 07:52 PM] yuen8241#0000 The number of my bases in BEN is going to surpass ANT's. [08-Jan-23 07:52 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's a lot of tabs [08-Jan-23 07:59 PM] churavis#0000 A more efficient nickname system would allow you to fit more tabs on your screen [08-Jan-23 07:59 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wouldn't be surprised if Benton and Antares eventually get shortened to just A & B [08-Jan-23 08:00 PM] churavis#0000 The names of planets in Benton and Antares are all unique so there's no reason you would need specify which region each base is in [08-Jan-23 08:03 PM] yuen8241#0000 This will make it easier for me to manage the ships responsible for the transportation of consumables. [08-Jan-23 08:03 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have one ship that is responsible for ANT's consumables, and the other one is responsible for BEN. [08-Jan-23 08:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 I used to mix the planets in different regions, which made it more troublesome for me to arrange consumables in the cargo hold. [08-Jan-23 08:06 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 What does your planet screen look like? I currently have a single screen [08-Jan-23 08:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 PMMG [08-Jan-23 08:08 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061828737135542322/image.png?ex=6814d1d2&is=68138052&hm=614024b7b651facf18d612bdf27312707c2e9e5e5ba52d4f82e2ec73345c608a& [08-Jan-23 08:08 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Holy shit [08-Jan-23 08:09 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 To be fair that looks super efficient [08-Jan-23 08:10 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 It's getting a bit too much really [08-Jan-23 08:14 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061830286322708510/image.png?ex=6814d344&is=681381c4&hm=fba82cee66a083d12b7808287354e6604b5b25d103d606cc1ba275020bc9905b& [08-Jan-23 08:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait we can get IPO-like burn rate screen and such in-game? How? [08-Jan-23 08:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 PMMG [08-Jan-23 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 Otherwise, how do you think I can easily manage a dozen bases and maintain the production of dozens of products?๐Ÿคฃ [08-Jan-23 08:17 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 By being a lunatic? I dunno, I try not to think that far ahead, it looks and sounds stressful lolol [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 Because I hoard a lot of consumables and raw materials, and I have a lot of boats, so I need few replenishment operations every day.. [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] dehzhas#0000 I use PRUNner on linux. You need to unzip it then run (from inside the unzipped dir): ``` chmod +x PRUNner ./PRUNner ``` [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I completely understand why you guys sponsor bases. Holy fuck does that look like it gets overwhelming [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I got it working ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] dehzhas#0000 You only need the chmod the first time. [08-Jan-23 08:19 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ahhh [08-Jan-23 08:20 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 that's a better route than what I'm doing, cheers! [09-Jan-23 01:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061914044405125200/image.png?ex=68152145&is=6813cfc5&hm=087a16e82577dc49bea15abaa57ebf34f6da33421280a80b328b43626abac2a3& [09-Jan-23 01:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 Is this for consumables or does it include raw materials? [09-Jan-23 01:48 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Just consumables I believe [09-Jan-23 01:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 But my minimum consumables are enough for 20 days.๐Ÿ˜… [09-Jan-23 01:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1061914491052363796/image.png?ex=681521b0&is=6813d030&hm=5bbcc267299151ceda752d339a4c1ad58991e98684e19077a795e2283696f1da& [09-Jan-23 01:50 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 I get the notification when it takes the last of something that will still last 10 days like it takes only 0.1/day [09-Jan-23 01:51 AM] habix3956#0000 is that screen from prunner or is there some extension for browser? [09-Jan-23 01:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 PMMG {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Jan-23 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 I am pretty sure the consumable request is buggy. It might trigger whenever you have less than 3 or 5 of something, like VG (even when 5 VG lasts you 4 weeks) [09-Jan-23 10:10 AM] habix3956#0000 how does the game handle 4.2 consumption per day, since the inventory is displayed with whole numbers? [09-Jan-23 10:12 AM] gladeowl#0000 From what I've seen. It consumes the 1 unit, visually. But still factors the remaining 0.8 into future calculations. [09-Jan-23 10:40 AM] habix3956#0000 oh ok, so it has some sort of internal buffer [09-Jan-23 11:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, partial units are tracked internally [09-Jan-23 08:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 Does anyone want these HRT rats? I'll ship them back in a few days. If no one wants them, I may ship them to BEN or MOR. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1062193129987514448/image.png?ex=6814d3b0&is=68138230&hm=413e318f83609a9731d89c912104241467bf251b4aca69bf2801c5b243a8b194& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [09-Jan-23 09:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'm a player in BEN area now.๐Ÿคช {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1062207163994472549/image.png?ex=6814e0c2&is=68138f42&hm=9583b714c91bce61f3603d842362b36debdc1444bd90b97e8b2307d4dad40898& [09-Jan-23 09:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 o7 The people of Antares shall mourn your loss [09-Jan-23 09:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 To be fair, Benten space has some badass planet names [09-Jan-23 09:14 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 If they ever add space drugs, I vote we start production on Nemesis ๐Ÿ˜› [10-Jan-23 02:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 This classification function is great.๐Ÿ‘ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1062279634504392776/image.png?ex=68152441&is=6813d2c1&hm=b9df15980243282f4d799a954dedece51a2ab6b954bf1f4de55a87462f4ad534& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿฅณ [10-Jan-23 02:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 When was it added? I just found out today. [10-Jan-23 02:30 AM] allocater#0000 couple of days ago [10-Jan-23 02:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 oooooh fancy! And useful! [10-Jan-23 07:28 AM] dehzhas#0000 omg... that is so useful [10-Jan-23 09:45 AM] domicius#0000 Oh wow. Gonna check it out! [10-Jan-23 12:02 PM] domicius#0000 OK, it's not in the main app. Is this an extension? [10-Jan-23 12:07 PM] allocater#0000 yes PMMG Extended [10-Jan-23 12:15 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Hopefully they bring in lots of the features from PMMG during their refresh of the UI [10-Jan-23 12:18 PM] allocater#0000 I fear it will just be visual changes or even make hardcore usability worse to attract more new players with simplicity {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 12:32 PM] jackinabox86#0000 someone should write up a paragraph on the must have extensions (FIO, PMMG, etc.) for the welcome page [10-Jan-23 12:33 PM] jackinabox86#0000 because playing this game without PMMG and FIO is just crazy; wouldn't want new members to miss out {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-23 12:51 PM] habix3956#0000 I set it up yesterday.. dunno why most of the stuff is not in vanilla game already [10-Jan-23 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 The Magic OOG Search Box has been upgraded to handle searching for common one letter materials like "O" and "C" better. It prioritizes exact matches higher, so "O @ 40" will show up before "COF @ 350" when you search for "O" {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (4) [10-Jan-23 01:43 PM] habix3956#0000 any of the players devs inrl? [10-Jan-23 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yes, I program for a living and make spreadsheets for fun ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Jan-23 02:25 PM] jackinabox86#0000 that's why you should write the paragraph. I don't know what I use; I just like it! [10-Jan-23 02:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 Fun bit of random lore: "The Exodus Council". http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-10_14-29-22.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-10_14-29-22.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/v3qYVoShEEyFqh6PeINb8deZbOlKmZBb_A-bDt5ejrk/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-10_14-29-22.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [10-Jan-23 02:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 Good corp name, heh {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 02:36 PM] dehzhas#0000 Thank you, thank you, thank you.... this is amazing. You rock! ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿš€ ๐Ÿ˜‚ [10-Jan-23 02:36 PM] dehzhas#0000 lol, me too [10-Jan-23 03:49 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 โค๏ธ [10-Jan-23 04:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 What are the odds? I got an NPC faction mission to scan Griff as I depart to build my base there. Two birds, one stone. [10-Jan-23 04:24 PM] exeler#0000 Same, I also program for a living. In my free time I often program to avoid using spreadsheets though. Only sheet I actually use for playing this is the corp sheep where I list my prices for things ๐Ÿ˜… [10-Jan-23 04:28 PM] churavis#0000 I program spreadsheets for a living and the funnest part of this game for me is building the complex spreadsheets to support it. [10-Jan-23 06:39 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hey seems Sanggo is looking for an H2O supplier, maybe hit him up and see if y'all can work out a deal ๐Ÿ™‚ (I think he produces crops & DW around local ANT space) [10-Jan-23 07:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 He's a cool dude, I have bought several shiploads of LIO from him. [10-Jan-23 07:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh he's not in a corp, if you hit him up maybe you can recruit him [10-Jan-23 07:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Asked him about it a while back and he's just the solo type, but who knows. He'd be a good addition to the team. [10-Jan-23 07:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Often the most fiercely independent players wind up being great when they give teamwork a chance [10-Jan-23 07:40 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 > 12/28 08:53 AM [OOG] XenoXerarch > Cheers and thanks for the water, bud. Surprised you're not in a corp, around your 1 year anniversary. > 12/28 09:06 AM Sanggo > Hi, no problem, I produce +/- 2k DW a day ๐Ÿ™‚ if you need it. > 12/28 09:07 AM Sanggo > And as for the corporation... I don't see any benefits to me. If I need to establish a business relationship, I don't need a corp, I'll connect directly with the person ๐Ÿ™‚ > 12/28 02:01 PM [OOG] XenoXerarch > ๐Ÿ™‚ Understandable. Have a good day! [10-Jan-23 07:48 PM] yuen8241#0000 However, joining Corp can establish business relations very efficiently, and you can also gain advantages in ships, loans, sponsorship, currency exchange, etc. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 07:50 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Agreed. I wasn't an official OOG member at the time though, so it wasn't my place to push any further. The convo only came up because he or someone else questions how the hell I already had 3 bases after like a week, and I expressed that it was thanks to associating with well-developed corp players with good networks and sponsorships. [10-Jan-23 07:51 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Or, at least, if I was already a member, I was brand new [10-Jan-23 07:54 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 If not for what I learned here, I'd probably still be a frustrated, confused newbie with a barely-functional PP1/BMP build on Deimos, selling BDEs and ALO for barely any profit ๐Ÿ˜› [10-Jan-23 07:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think the lowest investment but the highest income in ANT area is to build BMP on heph. [10-Jan-23 07:58 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Threshold in what sense? [10-Jan-23 08:00 PM] yuen8241#0000 investment [10-Jan-23 08:00 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ahh [10-Jan-23 08:01 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can constantly change your products through market conditions, and it's also very close from heph to ANT. [10-Jan-23 08:02 PM] yuen8241#0000 The profit of some products of BMP is higher than that of advanced buildings. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [10-Jan-23 08:03 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Going to boot up PRUNner and check that out, that's an interesting idea. [10-Jan-23 08:03 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Especially since I already have a Heph base, and could just as easily convert some of my FPs into BMPs, as both only seem to need basic prefabs [10-Jan-23 08:04 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you have more bases, the advantage of switching production frequently in order to obtain this part of profits will not be obvious. But in the early days of the game, this part of the profit is still considerable. [10-Jan-23 08:06 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 For sure. When I just had the starter construction setup on deimos, I survived by jumping between OVE, EXO, PT, and a few other things. EXO/PT especially seemed to sell really well at the CX, and I supplied my own PP1 mats for.... BDEs I think it was [10-Jan-23 08:07 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its why I started with a con setup in the first place. Seemed very versatile. Sourcing all the dozen different inputs was a different issue altogether though, at least when I didn't know anyone and had to rely on volatile CX pricing. [10-Jan-23 08:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 PWO and OFF are the most profitable now. Considering the sales volume, choose PWO. [10-Jan-23 08:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Holy shit o.O PRUNner suggests net profit over 100k for 20 BMPs producing PWOs [10-Jan-23 08:13 PM] jackinabox86#0000 there is no where near that kind of demand {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (4) [10-Jan-23 08:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Granted, 1.6k PWO's is insane, no way you can sell all that [10-Jan-23 08:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 there's roughly 500 bought and sold a day at ANT [10-Jan-23 08:14 PM] churavis#0000 There's no way you can produce the RCO and COT for all that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 08:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 and it's currently oversupplied [10-Jan-23 08:14 PM] jackinabox86#0000 BMP is a pain to source for the volumes you can sell [10-Jan-23 08:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 Therefore, you need to have a very good ability to manage inventory and sales network. [10-Jan-23 08:15 PM] jackinabox86#0000 yeah, but at the end of the day, for all that work, you have BMP products [10-Jan-23 08:15 PM] jackinabox86#0000 not exactly drones for a damn similar amount of work [10-Jan-23 08:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 In order to save trouble, I usually produce PE/MCG, and I produce OFF/EXO/PWO/PT according to my own needs. [10-Jan-23 08:16 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I run PE myself; the occasional OFF [10-Jan-23 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 But in the early stage of the game, when your capital is far less than your energy, it is good to make money through this. [10-Jan-23 08:18 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Vaguely recall someone mentioning they like to have a BMP on each of their bases just to produce consumables when needed, and that sounds more and more clever the more bases I get lol [10-Jan-23 08:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 MCG and PE usually have opposite price trends. When PE goes up, MCG goes down, which is very interesting. [10-Jan-23 08:18 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Huh, any idea why? That's odd. [10-Jan-23 08:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think it's stupid. I'd rather produce consumables from manufacturing /FP base and transport them to all bases for storage. [10-Jan-23 08:19 PM] jackinabox86#0000 omg I hate that so much. Goes against everything I believe! It's a lot harder to source the inputs for a ton of consumables than it is to just source the consumables to say nothing of the loss of efficiency {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [10-Jan-23 08:20 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 WOw some strong feelings here ๐Ÿ˜› [10-Jan-23 08:20 PM] jackinabox86#0000 lol [10-Jan-23 08:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 Consumables should consider production efficiency and difficulty of raw material management. Place a BMP in each base. Neither of these two things can be done. [10-Jan-23 08:22 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aye, it really is the most profitable to maximize efficiency by focusing on the singular industry, but I do wonder how many people take a more generalized approach where they build an fp and bmp on each base and make their own consumables as needed. It'd be horribly inefficient in PU, but I can see players from other similar games doing this. It was very common in Merchant Empires, where I originally come from, though the hyper-efficient min-maxers obviously made more money in bulk and margin trading. [10-Jan-23 08:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I'm sure there are those that do it [10-Jan-23 08:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I doubt many non-min-maxxers remain in this game for long [10-Jan-23 08:23 PM] jackinabox86#0000 it's not exactly rewarding in other ways! [10-Jan-23 08:24 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Technically, as long as they're small and limited to a base, and will source all their inputs from the CX and sell to CX as well, it works. Worked for me when I started, though the profit margins were garbage compared to what I make now. [10-Jan-23 08:25 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think at least doing so in this game will lead to making less money and spending more energy. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 08:25 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah. Its a logistical nightmare. [10-Jan-23 08:25 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 At one point I had over 25 different material types in my Deimos storage and it was just such a pain in the ass to keep everything supplied constantly. [10-Jan-23 08:26 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 This game heavily favors hyperefficiency [10-Jan-23 08:26 PM] yuen8241#0000 In fact, if you pursue profit, you should consider whether the degree of energy spent is appropriate. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 08:28 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its a bit ironic, really. I almost didn't join PU because of all the negative reviews complaining there's nothing to do and you just log in for 5 minutes then ignore the game for 1-3 days, but I figured it might be something to do with their playstyle. As I know now, as soon as you're out of the super early game, there's plenty of room to dick around, minmax, trade, travel, prospect, and the like. [10-Jan-23 08:29 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I probably spend easily an hour or two on PU daily right now, though less now that @dehzhas has my Heph needs taken care of. The energy/time gained from no longer having to worry about Heph is why I'm going for this Griff base. Once I get Griff efficient and self-sufficient in terms of supply, via the right contracts, I can then move onto base #5, and so on. [10-Jan-23 08:30 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Seeing some of you nutjobs with 12-15 bases makes me wonder if you're either a masochist, or just figured out one hell of an efficient logistical system [10-Jan-23 08:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 each planet does one or two things [10-Jan-23 08:30 PM] yuen8241#0000 Usually, the longer you play, the more energy you need to pay. This is contrary to most games. [10-Jan-23 08:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 also, having several ships makes it easier [10-Jan-23 08:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 removing cargo constraints helps [10-Jan-23 08:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's because most games feature a totally different type of growth curve. Here you can just keep piling on more bases if you can afford it, though there's nothing stopping someone from just chilling with 1, 2, or 3 bases throughout their entire PU career. [10-Jan-23 08:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm actually curious as to who has the most bases in the game, and how many exactly [10-Jan-23 08:32 PM] jackinabox86#0000 https://aeryen23.github.io/yapt/#/basecount?selected=14 [10-Jan-23 08:33 PM] jackinabox86#0000 out of date, but gets you a sense of it [10-Jan-23 08:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 20 bases jesus [10-Jan-23 08:34 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1062560002776236052/image.png?ex=6814d7de&is=6813865e&hm=dd2f6fb427a090d52b2efcdc36aa4d2f6f1b583f8e97b19bd04972fe854375a5& [10-Jan-23 08:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait, what's the number (number) mean [10-Jan-23 08:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 why graph but no key -_- [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I played Hades Star a short bit, and at t he beginning you have something to do constantly for the first 20 minutes, then you get 2 or 5 minute timers, and after a while you start getting 12 hr timers, etc. basically the opposite of this game ๐Ÿ˜„ I'm not sure what they should do in PRUN to turn that around, but they should try to match that model, I think [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 cumulative number of players with that number of bases or more [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ahh [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 so if you ahve 14 bases, you are in the top 28 of players [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I think the chart stopped updating a few weeks ago and the person doesn't maintain it, which is sad [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] jackinabox86#0000 they have to let you automate routes {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (2) [10-Jan-23 08:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's unfortunate. [10-Jan-23 08:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 that and recurring orders would improve things a lot for experienced players [10-Jan-23 08:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Automating / recurring pickup/dropoff would fucking rock [10-Jan-23 08:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 at least there's already auto drop-off, sort of [10-Jan-23 08:36 PM] jackinabox86#0000 it's a logistics game after all; routes is a basic feaure {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [10-Jan-23 08:37 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though it is possible to automate a player out of their agency [10-Jan-23 08:38 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 At which point people no longer see the need to even log in, which naturally turns into people soft quitting [10-Jan-23 08:38 PM] yuen8241#0000 I guess I'll hit the bottleneck if I add three more bases. A total of 17 bases {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [10-Jan-23 08:39 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is there a buffer type or whatever that shows every building that corresponds to a specific industry bonus? ie manufacturing [10-Jan-23 08:40 PM] jackinabox86#0000 people are hard quitting now given the hassle! [10-Jan-23 08:40 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Heh. [10-Jan-23 08:40 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I get your point, but with the dynamic economy, you can't totally zone out [10-Jan-23 08:41 PM] jackinabox86#0000 the MMs are static though, so who knows. I just know there are a lot of QoL features that could make it easier [10-Jan-23 08:43 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I get why there's an inevitable problem. Nothing's forcing them to build beyond their ability to effectively manage, but if the main 'grab' is 'more base, more build', though, it naturally incentives people to keep on increasing their footprint until it becomes entirely unmanageable within the existing UI/UX framework. Adding more QoL/Automation might remedy that a bit, but it'll just end up pushing the 'end game' threshold a bit higher, rather than truly fix anything. [10-Jan-23 08:43 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though one might argue its not really a fixable thing; more just people being people. [10-Jan-23 08:47 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...This is why I mostly play idle/incremental games these days, and no longer bother with MMO's. ๐Ÿ˜› All games inevitably get reduced down to 'number go up, dopamine go boop', and no matter how many buttons and graphics and sounds and colors and fancy bells and whistles you add, it all ultimately boils down to the same end result. We're forever chasing a certain high, and most people don't even understand why or how it works. (I myself spent an ungodly amount of time/energy on certain MMOs in my younger days, and experienced the mid-to-endgame burnout profoundly) [10-Jan-23 08:52 PM] yuen8241#0000 Build the first-degree buildings, produce the most complex products, monopolize the most products, build the most ships, build the most bases and earn the most money.๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ ๐Ÿš€ ๐Ÿง [10-Jan-23 09:01 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 It'd be nice if the game handled quantifying that stuff for us. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฟ [10-Jan-23 09:02 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 There's just something about intrinsically meaningless in-game leaderboards & achievements that keep me hooked on a game. Knowing you've done x number of flights, produced x number of a certain good, or a certain % of all of that good ever produced, or produced this month, or whatever. [11-Jan-23 06:29 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Weird. I've got all the mats on my ship to build base on Griff but the base build button is grayed out. [11-Jan-23 06:29 PM] churavis#0000 Do you have a spare permit? [11-Jan-23 06:29 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 FUCK [11-Jan-23 06:30 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I knew I was forgetting something [11-Jan-23 06:30 PM] churavis#0000 What do you need for your next HQ upgrade, I likely have it on Nike [11-Jan-23 06:30 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Let me check real quick [11-Jan-23 06:30 PM] yuen8241#0000 But he doesn't seem to have a NIke base [11-Jan-23 06:31 PM] yuen8241#0000 Please put the materials delivered to Griff in the warehouse first. [11-Jan-23 06:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its the HQ permits, I completely forgot that was a thing [11-Jan-23 06:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Looks like permit 4 needs 16 BBH, 12 BDE, 12 BSE, 6 BTA. Though the MCG/OFF/TRU bars are full yellow so I think I supplied those already at some point [11-Jan-23 06:33 PM] churavis#0000 Where's your HQ? [11-Jan-23 06:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Deimos [11-Jan-23 06:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Going to have to fly to Nike, pick up prefabs, then fly to deimos *sigh* [11-Jan-23 06:34 PM] churavis#0000 You can leave your griff base mats in a warehouse [11-Jan-23 06:34 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 warehouse is already full of HAL & consumables unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜ [11-Jan-23 06:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I could do a bit of juggling but it wouldn't make much of a difference in the end [11-Jan-23 06:35 PM] churavis#0000 Have you rented 2 units already? [11-Jan-23 06:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 yep [11-Jan-23 06:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its mostly the 500 HAL I bought lol [11-Jan-23 06:36 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Shit takes up so much space [11-Jan-23 06:36 PM] churavis#0000 Just send me some and I'll send it back when your base is up [11-Jan-23 06:39 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 I managed to juggle it around and get all of my prefabs and such on-world. Put down half the consumables for the first cycle and left the rest on-ship along with some HAL. [11-Jan-23 06:41 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 My 2nd ship arrived at ANT, so I can retask it asap. If anyone happens to have the BBH/BDE/BSE/BTA on Deimos, that'd e beatiful. if not let me know where to fly and I'll be there ASAP [11-Jan-23 06:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can ask allocator about it [11-Jan-23 06:43 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Really facepalming hard here. Can't believe I forgot about the damn HQ permit -_- [11-Jan-23 06:43 PM] churavis#0000 ANT has everything and is much closer to Deimos [11-Jan-23 06:44 PM] yuen8241#0000 He has several PP2 on deimos [11-Jan-23 06:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Since he's offline, I'll take whatever's available on ANT. [11-Jan-23 06:44 PM] churavis#0000 He only makes non LST fabs on Deimos [11-Jan-23 06:44 PM] yuen8241#0000 Yes๏ผŒyou can get them on ANT [11-Jan-23 06:45 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I have the BSE on Deimos [11-Jan-23 06:46 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Cheers bud, appreciated [11-Jan-23 06:53 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Want 200 AL btw? Just a few minutes til I finish the last batch [11-Jan-23 06:54 PM] yuen8241#0000 yes [11-Jan-23 06:55 PM] yuen8241#0000 I found that if I started producing Si, I would consume 200AL a day. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [11-Jan-23 06:55 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Alright, sending a cont for the full 230 batch, it'll be ready for fulfillment in... 19 minutes. Could you send me the prefab conts on ANT too? I'll take the non-BSE ones [11-Jan-23 06:55 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is it profitable though? [11-Jan-23 06:57 PM] churavis#0000 I am smelting SI on WU-070a, I can increase capacity there if there is demand for SI in the corp [11-Jan-23 06:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 Cool! [11-Jan-23 06:57 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Plz send me a cont when you get a chance ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Jan-23 06:58 PM] yuen8241#0000 If I build a GF/SME base in WU-070a, it will occupy my base quota. [11-Jan-23 06:58 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wonder how fast I can send my ship from ANT to Deimos... Think I'll go for my first-ever speedy run for the hell of it. I'd rather not wait til tomorrow afternoon to build this damn base lol. [11-Jan-23 06:58 PM] churavis#0000 It's usually pretty quick, a few hours even for starter ships [11-Jan-23 06:59 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Nice. If I push it to the limit, hopefully I can upgrade HQ, build the base, and get my first cycle of CL started* before* I have to sleep tonight. edit: Brain, cmon, English pls [11-Jan-23 07:00 PM] churavis#0000 Let me know when you have enough to sell [11-Jan-23 07:00 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 What do you consider enough to sell? Not really sure what the batches will be like quite yet. Same with the... whatever the other byproduct is called. NA? [11-Jan-23 07:01 PM] churavis#0000 However much you have when you need money [11-Jan-23 07:02 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol alright [11-Jan-23 07:02 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 How much do you consume on a daily basis though [11-Jan-23 07:03 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Or do you ship it offworld [11-Jan-23 07:04 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Anyone else notice basic prefab prices on the CX have skyrocketed lately? [11-Jan-23 07:07 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Not really, or my orders would have sold, they're priced pretty low [11-Jan-23 07:09 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's most just because some dude slightly undercut your BSE ask lol [11-Jan-23 07:09 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 The BDE's are way higher at a handful for 1750 and the bulk around 2k/u [11-Jan-23 07:10 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hm yeah it looks like its mainly just BDE's that skewed higher today [11-Jan-23 07:18 PM] churavis#0000 I ship it to ANT, then A2D, you're welcome to sell it to me on Griff or either of those {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [11-Jan-23 09:31 PM] jackinabox86#0000 If Yuen is sponsoring the base, may want to sell some to him too [11-Jan-23 09:54 PM] yuen8241#0000 I need 30 CL every day. [12-Jan-23 01:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sponsor gets first dibs on all production [12-Jan-23 07:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063080291457048737/image.png?ex=6814c22c&is=681370ac&hm=7736cb47431ad3ad0d16b9abc335255556839c5417f4e49d41e450589450e1c0& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [12-Jan-23 09:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 Master Spy Yuen! ๐Ÿ˜„ nice work! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [12-Jan-23 09:58 AM] allocater#0000 ANT cx has been liberated, for now [12-Jan-23 11:48 AM] allocater#0000 Moria also liberated {Reactions} ๐Ÿพ [12-Jan-23 06:27 PM] yuen8241#0000 I plan to transport 26k of water to BEN. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063253018025402398/image.png?ex=6814ba49&is=681368c9&hm=bbe89a90d28a5bd113c918dcb56c0b9f0a3ea7816d289270ca2f0b8ac03a7721& [12-Jan-23 08:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Pretty locked in now: [12-Jan-23 08:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_20-08-13.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_20-08-13.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mN1WdGOo3ONU8r8q_nfNMD3B4OxC18izguBSyLhmql4/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_20-08-13.png [12-Jan-23 08:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think we can sell half of H2O at a high price to keep stock. To prevent him from buying all the low-priced water again [12-Jan-23 08:11 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 My shipments for you from Ice Station Alpha are about 5-6 hours away {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [12-Jan-23 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wasn't sure if I should fill is buy order at 45. It's a pretty high price for water, so I don't mind him paying it. [12-Jan-23 10:29 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Dude's name is literally menacing lol [12-Jan-23 10:30 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 well, menacing/terrible/cruel [12-Jan-23 10:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though pretty sure nie is polish, not russian like grozny, unless polish language has a same-similar term/meaning due to proximity [12-Jan-23 10:31 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 His name confuses me [12-Jan-23 10:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 "Harmless" in Polish, I think? [12-Jan-23 10:32 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Might be. Nie being no/not, so no/not + cruel/menacing/harm/etc should theoretically come out that way? [12-Jan-23 10:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though if polish/russian is anything like english, portuguese, and spanish, prolly best I don't make assumptions with how utterly ridiculous and illogical terminology can be lol [12-Jan-23 10:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'd like to think I'm clever, but I just put it into google [12-Jan-23 10:33 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ah lol [12-Jan-23 10:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-33-50.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-33-50.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0MYSHZF4qmxDDsfdSPpdliz_rjUjcOtHjkOcuHQTgTE/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-33-50.png [12-Jan-23 10:35 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ I enjoy deconstructing the root etymology of words, so that's pretty interesting how it filters down into meaning 'harmless' [12-Jan-23 10:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 It says "groลบny" is dangerous, so it checks out ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Jan-23 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 And here's a corp name suggestion for him next time around [12-Jan-23 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-43-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-43-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/y08it_spaxPi7G19AE9uoa_ubAYjYq3R5OYSC_ZUQ9Y/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-12_22-43-11.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [12-Jan-23 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜Ž hehehe [12-Jan-23 10:43 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 XD [12-Jan-23 10:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Makes me wonder how absolutely fucked Grozny region had to have been back in the day for the government to literally name it 'dangerous/harmful/terrible city' >_> [12-Jan-23 10:44 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Imagine officially naming a whole city/region "yeah this place sucks bro" [12-Jan-23 10:45 PM] gladeowl#0000 Atleast it's honest, I guess? [12-Jan-23 10:45 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Reminds me of a joke I heard a few years ago. [12-Jan-23 10:45 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Comrade, what state do you live in? [12-Jan-23 10:45 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Despair, my friend. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [12-Jan-23 10:47 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 If I'm not mistaken, Grozny is in Chechnya, so that pans out. [12-Jan-23 10:48 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Now, whether it officially sucked ass prior to, or after, they got there, I dunno. Just imagine moving to a place with that name though. Oof. [12-Jan-23 10:48 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Kinda feels like soviet era humor tbh [13-Jan-23 12:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 So he's Russian? But Russia is neither short of water nor energy or wood. Why does it like to buy water or C so much?๐Ÿคฃ [13-Jan-23 02:19 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 More likely he's Polish, judging by the previous discussion. Grozny seems to exist in various regional languages. I only knew about Russian at the time, but its definitely in Polish as well. [13-Jan-23 02:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 But Grozny is the capital of Chechnya. [13-Jan-23 02:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yep! I just joked about that too ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 02:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Such a fucked up name [13-Jan-23 02:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We think he might be polish specifically because of the 'nie' part of the name. Though, just having a name in a certain language doesn't guarantee anything. Plenty of people have usernames in all sorts of languages. [13-Jan-23 02:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that Nie means no in Polish. [13-Jan-23 02:33 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yep. Niegrozny specifically meaning 'harmless' in Polish. Grozny, by itself, meaning 'harmful, horrible, terrible, frightening, cruel' [13-Jan-23 02:33 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 So the capitol of Chechnya has probably the most fucked up name I've ever seen in a city. [13-Jan-23 02:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Now I'm curious as to why the hell they named it that... [13-Jan-23 02:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 My translator told me that Grozny means grape in Polish. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 02:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 OH its a direct reference to Ivan the Terrible of Russia [13-Jan-23 02:35 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Grozny with or without the little symbol are 2 different words [13-Jan-23 02:35 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Because Polish lol [13-Jan-23 02:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 I guess he's probably a Slavic after all [13-Jan-23 02:35 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 But yeah, apparently capitol of Chechnya is named after an old russian leader who was a bit of an asshole [13-Jan-23 02:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 In June, 1818, 5,000 Russian imperial soldiers spent four months building a fortress on the lower Sunzha River. Because it was considered as the hottest place in the North Caucasus at that time and the most conflicted place, the fortress was named "Terrible Fortress" (ะบั€ะตะฟะฝะพั).They intend to shock the region with the title of Ivan the Terrible. [13-Jan-23 02:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yep. Looks like the name dates back to the late 1800s after the Caucasus war [13-Jan-23 02:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The city name, specifically, as before that, there was no city with such a name, instead just the fort [13-Jan-23 02:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Interesting history right there [13-Jan-23 02:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 The Harrenhal in the game of thrones [13-Jan-23 02:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 A damn shame what became of Grozny in the 90s. [13-Jan-23 02:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 Ethnic group, religion and oil can always bring conflicts. [13-Jan-23 02:50 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Some asshole will always find some excuse to bring misery upon others, if not for pride, then for greed. [13-Jan-23 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think this kind of thing is rooted in human nature. [13-Jan-23 02:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'd argue its less a matter of human nature, and more a matter of nature period. Its the path of least resistance, in a roundabout sort of way, to take what you desire. All living beings do it, and we're nothing special in that regard. We simply have fancier methods of doing so. Whether on land or the sea, creatures echo the same cycles of behavior by which they rabidly consume everything along the path of least resistance, even if it ultimately drives them to over-population and mass-starvation. Life... just wants to eat and fuck. For better or worse. [13-Jan-23 02:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 Smarter, more United and more cruel species/groups eliminate other species/groups. [13-Jan-23 02:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 So this is the result now. [13-Jan-23 02:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We have this weird habit of calling it human nature, but we behave no differently than a wild dog, a carnivorous fish, a bird, or an insect. [13-Jan-23 02:59 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We form communities and destroy anything that doesn't fall within the scope of our relative identity. Communities shift and mutate with time; new sub-groups and sub-species emerge; but the general trend never changes. [13-Jan-23 03:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Whether you go back 100 years, or 100 million, its the same exact process. [13-Jan-23 03:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 But human beings are smarter and more thoughtful, so compared with animals, there will be some different light in wisdom. [13-Jan-23 03:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 At least, superficially. [13-Jan-23 03:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Not quite as vicious as ants, though. ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 03:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can't live without cruelty. If you are not kind, then you are just alive. There needs to be a balance between these two ends. [13-Jan-23 03:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 There are magnitudes more of them than us, and they kill each other in numbers we can barely fathom. [13-Jan-23 03:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Life without cruelty is theoretically possible, its just intrinsically more difficult to uphold. Its counter to the path of least resistance to play nice, because that means one must share. We do, as all organisms do, to a certain extent. Still... When push comes to shove... We easily, and swiftly, become monsters. [13-Jan-23 03:07 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 When there is bounty, kindness comes easily. I would argue, however, that its not true kindness. True kindness exists in despair, when every instinct screams for you to take, to reap, to destroy, and yet one does not. Its easy to smile and be gentle when you're warm, well-fed, and content. Much harder when you're struggling. The worse the struggle, the bigger the challenge. [13-Jan-23 03:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I've been fortunate enough to live in bounty, and unfortunate enough to live in poverty. I can honestly say that hunger can make a monster of any man. [13-Jan-23 03:09 AM] yuen8241#0000 True kindness is so scarce that it is not a major part of human nature. [13-Jan-23 03:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 From the perspective of mankind as a whole, a richer life can make mankind more kind. [13-Jan-23 03:12 AM] yuen8241#0000 People's thoughts are so elusive and changeable that only the change of the material world is more effective. [13-Jan-23 03:13 AM] yuen8241#0000 If mankind as a whole falls into catastrophic hunger, let alone eating pets, I am afraid that eating people will not be an ethical issue. [13-Jan-23 03:14 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 To be fair, much of what we tend to describe as human nature isn't that at all. If you take a more psychoanalytic approach, there's really very little about us that distinguishes a man from common animals. Most of what we ascribe to human nature is little more than ego and hubris; an attempt to elevate us beyond what is reasonable. By that logic, the route to extending human kindness is simply to achieve a more stable and equitable socioeconomic system in which there is less inherent chaos; less struggle for survival; and thus more room for human beings to interact in non-violent ways. Its been proven time and again that the vast majority of chaos and violence in the world arises as a result of drastic inequality and the desire to rid oneself of hunger, fear, and all forms of suffering. Hopefully one day many years from now, we'll mature enough as a species for such a thing to be possible. [13-Jan-23 03:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its been that way in the past. Even the puritanical European colonists in the Americas, so haughty in their self-elevation before the eyes of God, resorted to cannibalism on multiple occasions. [13-Jan-23 03:16 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 If a group of people with such profoundly strict moral convictions would resort to murder and cannibalism to survive a particularly brutal winter in the Americas, very little stops less 'devoted' human beings from doing the same if the shit hits the fan. Not like it hasn't happen countless times in the past. [13-Jan-23 03:18 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm not exaggerating when I admit I absolutely was capable of murder at the time I was starving nearly to death a number of years ago, living on the streets for a period of time after a particularly disastrous series of events. [13-Jan-23 03:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 I always think that morality is the product of production level and social structure, and it is constantly changing. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [13-Jan-23 03:19 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Extreme hunger and dehydration just... Blinds you. Fills you with rage. Everything hurts, your muscles, your bones. Your head swims and pounds as if you were simultaneously drunk and hung over. You just want it to be over, yet it doesn't stop. [13-Jan-23 03:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 It would be disastrous if primitive tribes, slave societies and feudal societies were forced to adopt the current moral standards. [13-Jan-23 03:20 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 There are plenty of studies and historical precedents that agree with that statement. [13-Jan-23 03:21 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'd go one step further, however, and suggest that such antiquated social, moral, religious, political, cultural models are directly tied to the contemporary level of development. [13-Jan-23 03:22 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 If a catastrophic coronal mass ejection or volcanic eruption or cosmic radiation pulse or some other event took out a few decades or centuries of human technological progress, we'd almost immediately fall back into those old cycles of violence. [13-Jan-23 03:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 In many ways, we're more vulnerable now than we've ever been. [13-Jan-23 03:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 As long as the system works, we keep progressing. The moment it grinds to a halt*, or catastrophically fails, we're screwed. [13-Jan-23 03:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, if mankind enters real communism and has inexhaustible materials, I estimate that 90% of disputes will be eliminated. [13-Jan-23 03:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think controlled nuclear fusion and the technology of using carbon dioxide to produce food can help mankind to do this. [13-Jan-23 03:25 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Keep in mind that both capitalism and communism aren't designed to be end-states, but transition periods. Neither is meant to last forever, and both are fairly recent inventions that arose within the last two centuries. [13-Jan-23 03:25 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Problem is, no one has the vaguest fucking clue what the ultimate endstate (or, at least, the next logical state) is supposed to look or function like. [13-Jan-23 03:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Both are irredeemably broken in their own unique ways, if not simply because its impossible to instate zero-sum systems in a world of finite space and finite resources. [13-Jan-23 03:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 The most fundamental thing is technology and production capacity. Ideology is constantly changing with their development, and maybe there will be a better one in the future. [13-Jan-23 03:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 My hope is that we get off our asses and start properly investing in space exploration and expansion ASAP and fix both of those problems. [13-Jan-23 03:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 Humans spend much more resources on killing each other than exploring outer space. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [13-Jan-23 03:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 Whether human history will come to an end is a matter of luck. Perhaps the explosion of science and technology has solved these disputes? Maybe some madman pressed the nuclear button to restart it? [13-Jan-23 03:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm talking about capitalism and communism not from the ideological perspective, which is a thing of course, but from the purely mechanical side. Capitalism being the oppressively optimistic method that hopes we can justify all the wastefulness and inequality in exchange for somehow staying ahead of the rapidly-approaching curve (based entirely on outdated models that extrapolate off the prior centuries of human expansion back when unexplored lands and new types of natural resources were constantly being discovered and harvested; when things like the industrial revolution, colonization, and such were still possible, and people becoming rich actually had a direct and tangible effect on innovation, expansion, and an increase in living conditions); and communism being the oppressively pessimistic method that hopes we can slow the inevitable collapse by hyperoptimizing society in order to better manage our limited resources. Neither fixes the problem, and both are complete garbage in a vacuum. Unfortunately, we for the most part can't seem to agree on, or even manage to attempt, a healthy equilibrium between progressive innovation and equitable conservation. A few countries have sort of managed, such as the socialist democracies of northern Europe, albeit their existence is entirely reliant upon the whole of Europe, and beyond that, the rest of the global market. For example, their strides in green energy and gradual de-prioritization of oil at the cost of exporting massive amounts of oil. ie, in the end, they're still entirely oil-dependent because they fund their green projects with oil money - they're just not burning the oil themselves, thus shifting the responsibility on the end-user. Objectively, there's no real difference. You don't get to say your hands are clean when you extract the oil, process the oil, ship the oil, and then sustain your nation with oil money just because you're not burning it all yourself. [13-Jan-23 03:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Just to give a random example. [13-Jan-23 03:42 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here's to hoping fusion energy manages to provoke enough innovation that we pass this current stage of development. [13-Jan-23 03:43 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Honestly, we've progressed so much, and so fast, over the last 2 centuries that its impossible to extrapolate what human society will look like even in 10 years, much less 50 or 100. [13-Jan-23 03:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 Capitalist society is a pyramid, and northern Europe just intercepts the upper part of the world. [13-Jan-23 03:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 So if there is no other part of the world, can Northern Europe still maintain this paradise on earth? [13-Jan-23 03:47 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Society, period, is a pyramid scheme. In a perfect world, it would not be so, but I sincerely doubt we'll ever not be lorded over by whichever particular strain of hyper-ambitious, egotistical assholes happen to claim the god-given, or socially-mandated, right to rule and decide our collective fates. [13-Jan-23 03:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 Maybe not one person, but a group of people. [13-Jan-23 03:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 The pyramid tip can also accommodate many people. [13-Jan-23 03:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 And interestingly, the fight between them will lead to bad luck for the people at the bottom of the tower. [13-Jan-23 03:51 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The ironic part about northern europe is that they used to be akin to tribal social republics for hundreds of years before the dawn of the viking age, at which point they effectively saw the rest of the world outpace them and decided to become proto-capitalists via trade and raiding. In many cases, certain native american tribes as well. It didn't arise everywhere, and it didn't always last, but we've done it many times just over recorded human history. Not to mention the instances we have no living records of. The problem is that equitable systems never last when they come into contact with a non-equitable system, nor can they co-exist side by side for long. [13-Jan-23 03:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 So I prefer a flatter society. Maybe people upload the internet or make a Human unified DNA information base to create people? [13-Jan-23 03:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The last true norse ruler of my fatherland is a good example. He pretty much sold out his people and his faith in exchange for catholic gold, and never looked back. Frisia changed forever in a generation thanks to the greed of a single king. [13-Jan-23 03:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Why? Because it was the path of least resistance, and at our hearts we are an incredibly lazy fucking species lol. [13-Jan-23 03:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Perhaps. Though those are also highly contentious social, political, religious, economic, and ethical issues that different people will deal with individually. [13-Jan-23 03:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I can totally see a major global conflict, or at least various invasions, arise due to cloning or pseudo-singularity, much like modern wars have arisen over the capitalism-communism conflict; the Catholic/Islamic religious schisms; oil in general; etc. [13-Jan-23 03:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 People who agree will do it, and people who disagree will try to stop them. Always the same shit. [13-Jan-23 03:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For good and bad intentions alike. [13-Jan-23 03:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 I sometimes think that the concentration of wealth caused by wealth inheritance should be solved. Maybe we can do this. When people are alive, they use capitalism to exert their intelligence and create wealth. When a person dies, his wealth returns to the country to benefit more people. Wealth is produced and consumed within one generation, and it is relatively fair among the same generation. [13-Jan-23 03:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm of a particularly extreme brand of ideology, personally, and a transhumanist. I'm one of those people who welcomes AI, desires General Artificial Intelligence, believes they should have rights and be free of human control, and embraces the coming singularity. I'm also very on the fence with cloning, because it can very easily be used to perpetuate modern slavery and genocide. [13-Jan-23 04:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 For me, artificial intelligence/human brain uploading or cloning is acceptable. After all, if you don't try, you don't know what will happen to these technologies. [13-Jan-23 04:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I agree with this. The current model is still entirely based around the idea of bloodlines and blood inheritance, where wealth is passed from father to son. Any attempt at rectifying the long-standing issues and loopholes via estate taxes/etc get shot down because, by and large, wealthy people tend to be obsessed with the idea of their bloodlines. That fact alone is... inherently worrisome. I, personally, don't understand the concepts of legacy and bloodline. To me its just some distant obsession people used to have during the medieval era, but there are still people today who hold dear these concepts. [13-Jan-23 04:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 From the perspective of space civilization, human beings are still too fragile, and it may be good to become robots. Can go to more places and consume less resources. [13-Jan-23 04:02 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 My issue isn't with the technology, but with how governments will likely use them. If AI and clones are given free will to choose their fates, then so be it. We're simply adding more minds to the collective human consciousness. If, however, as is most likely, governments will attempt to enslave them and use them for disposable labor, then I have a raging problem with it. [13-Jan-23 04:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Whether that will eventually even *be* possible is still purely theoretical. [13-Jan-23 04:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 AI, however, isn't. Its a fact. Its coming, and there's no way to stop it short of banning all AI development on Earth - and violently stopping those who will continue development in secret. [13-Jan-23 04:04 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We'll have G.A.I. long before we even figure out how it'd be possible, if at all, to digitize human consciousness. I'd argue it'll be GAI who figure it out for us. [13-Jan-23 04:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 If the human regime as a whole produces, nurtures and educates human beings, the wealth inheritance between generations will not happen. But this will lead to the disappearance of traditional concepts such as family and the potential risk of slavery. [13-Jan-23 04:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now the bond between parents and children is not as close as before. If the artificial uterus is realized, the government's childcare service is better, and the high inheritance tax is added, it is close to what I said. [13-Jan-23 04:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 It may be due to my particularly fucked up childhood and family background; and partially being autistic and just plain not understanding why people still cling to traditions and religions and the concept of bloodlines at all if not merely as an object of illusory comfort; but I don't really see the issue with losing the modular family and focus on bloodlines. That's just me though. Its easy for me because I never experienced those things as allistic people do, and-or as people with a healthy background and normal childhood would. As such, I do not represent or speak for human society's desires or needs. Quite the opposite, really. I'm well aware I'm an outlier with extreme views that fly in the face of the social norm. [13-Jan-23 04:13 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wealth inheritance isn't a social issue as much as it is a legal one based on practically ancient social norms. Countries with functional estate taxes have already effectively eliminated this issue, though the vast majority of the world still heavily leans toward widespread protections of the estate. [13-Jan-23 04:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have always had a good relationship with my parents and son. However, from the perspective of technological progress and social development, I always think that the concentration of wealth and rights caused by traditional family inheritance has led to many problems. It would be great if there are technologies and solutions to solve this problem. The present social form of mankind is not ultimate, nor should it be. [13-Jan-23 04:14 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 You can still have your standard family structure without contemporary estate mechanisms. You just won't be allowed to inherit millions or billions of dollars and effectively keep the vast majority of a nations, a people's, a world's wealth in the hands of an extremely elite minority. [13-Jan-23 04:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its simply too much power concentrated in too few hands for it to ever be safe, ethical, or sensible. [13-Jan-23 04:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 If capitalism is a very efficient system for creating wealth and exerting intelligence, the concentration of wealth and power is its cancer. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [13-Jan-23 04:16 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's its ultimate irony. [13-Jan-23 04:17 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its so efficient that it winds up destroying itself. Giga-billionaires are unironically destroying the delicate systems that keep capitalism running and its both hilarious and depressing how we're running around like headless chickens trying to alternatively condemn, or praise it, without really doing much of fuckall to apply any fixes. [13-Jan-23 04:18 AM] yuen8241#0000 However, if the existing ways of human reproduction and rearing are not changed, even if the inheritance problem is solved, the difference between parents' level and resources will lead to great inequality in the process of growing up. [13-Jan-23 04:18 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The idea that we need billionaires in order to do things like SpaceX and Tesla is, in and of itself, a copout. It implies that one very rich man is somehow magically more capable to instate human progress than any number of collective human beings with access to the same funds. [13-Jan-23 04:19 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That part will depend heavily on socialized systems, to be sure. If you don't use some of that money to feed, house, clothe, and educate the next generation, you inevitably doom society to gradual degradation and eventual collapse. [13-Jan-23 04:21 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 All nations already do it to some extent, however minor. If we want to de-prioritize the need for estates, then we need to take good enough care of people that they don't feel the need to be forced to slave away their entire lifetime just to guarantee their descendants can go to school, or, hell, survive at all. [13-Jan-23 04:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 I mean, why not let the country do it? Of course, if it is terrible to give people so much power, can it be given to AI, or can people and AI do it together? [13-Jan-23 04:22 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I definitely feel like my generation and the next will be at the forefront of that fight, seeing as how we grew up watching the destruction of social services, the collapse of american social security, the devaluation of retirement funds, and so forth. [13-Jan-23 04:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 The state produces, nurtures and educates new people, and then provides employment opportunities or start-up funds for starting businesses. When they die, the inheritance will be used for a new cycle. [13-Jan-23 04:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 In fact, if technology overcomes politics, the planned economy can be used for the birth of the population. Avoid population explosion or population aging. [13-Jan-23 04:26 AM] yuen8241#0000 The biggest problem of this system is that if it is controlled by people, new slave owners may appear. [13-Jan-23 04:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For the same exact, and very simple, reason. There is no such thing as the country. Nations are an illusion. Governments aren't some independent, monolithic entity in vacuum. They're not some ultra-intelligent artificial intelligence without the need or desire to feed, to fuck, to reproduce, to consume. They're just normal human beings, with human needs, human fears, and human ambitions. Not only that, but the existing systems of governments actively incentive the worst types of human beings to hold power at all levels of government. People who put short term gains, short term victories, bullshit measures, passing blame, shifting responsibility, and general cop-outs in order to gain votes, to please the party, to skate by without truly fulfilling their mandates. East or West, capitalism or communism, its always the absolute shittiest people who end up in power, almost exclusively because its the most aggressively ambitious assholes who want power in the first place, as opposed to people who would be great in such positions but lack the drive, or ambition, or patience, or aggression, or corruption, or connections, or ego, or wealth, or what have you, to acquire and maintain all the complex relationships and masks needed to claim and retain positions of power. [13-Jan-23 04:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 But what if AI or electronic voting is used? [13-Jan-23 04:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I do like the idea of AI involvement, though I can almost guarantee people will violently rebel against the idea at first. [13-Jan-23 04:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 Stable and rational AI, an electronic terminal voter , what will happen if the two are combined? [13-Jan-23 04:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Ultimately, a more stable system than we're currently capable of. [13-Jan-23 04:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though just having a voting system doesn't magically make the voting system equitable, or fair, or functional. [13-Jan-23 04:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think this social structure will appear in the space age, because space is too big and empty. [13-Jan-23 04:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We'd first need to address the issues with democracy and republicanism at the heart of every modern 'democracy', which aren't really democracies at all. [13-Jan-23 04:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For example, I am Brazilian-American. [13-Jan-23 04:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Both are 'democracies', but really republics with some democratic mechanisms. [13-Jan-23 04:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We like the word democracy but we haven't actually been democracies in 100+ years, if ever. [13-Jan-23 04:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 In a sense, I don't think a new system can be born in this environment of the earth. Unless you go out of space, just like the English Puritans went to America. [13-Jan-23 04:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 Hehe, you are a Roman republic. [13-Jan-23 04:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aye. I feel like its only when we start colonizing space (whether in orbital stations or actual planetary/lunar surfaces) that we'll face a big sociopolitical crisis leading to revolutionary new forms of government and governance. [13-Jan-23 04:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Technically all modern democracies are just shitty copies of roman republics ๐Ÿ˜› which itself was a shitty copy of a greek republic. which itself stole a bunch of ideas from various eastern empires. [13-Jan-23 04:33 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its just generation after generation of "I like this, let's try it, but with a different spin on it.' and so on it goes. [13-Jan-23 04:33 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's the same in my country, but the cycle is longer. [13-Jan-23 04:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Have you watches The Expanse series? They have an interesting take on the concept that I particularly enjoy. [13-Jan-23 04:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm currently living in Brazil, my motherland, and its... A raging mess, tbh. [13-Jan-23 04:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 I know that the same thing happened to you as in America. [13-Jan-23 04:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Just had an attempted soft coup, the ex-president is a fascist-leaning dipshit, the ex-president and now current president is a communist-leaning dipshit, both made only slight changes that ultimately fixed nothing, and families and society itself is tearing at the seams as people argue and fight over which side is right/wrong/better/worse. Meanwhile I'm here, sighing, because both are career politicians who have done and will do fuckall, who just tout their particular ideological spin in order to gain the support of a certain part of the population without actually giving a shit about them at all. [13-Jan-23 04:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that most countries are repetitions of the classical era, and the core is still in the same strain, whether in the West or the East. [13-Jan-23 04:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I like to say that we go through a three-generation cycle and repeat over and over against nonstop because after 2 generations no one is alive to retell how fucking stupid the last century's fuck ups were; governments and the media aren't interested in telling the stories anymore; everything gets whitewashed and romanticized for various political, economic, religious, and cultural reasons, and we ultimately lose the truth in translation before making the same stupid mistakes as our great grandparents' generation. [13-Jan-23 04:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can also choose a strong unelected government and rule for a long time until corruption or disaster destroys the economy and leads to a violent revolution.๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 04:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Either way we slice it, its all fucked yo. [13-Jan-23 04:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 The only lesson that mankind has learned from history is that mankind never learns. [13-Jan-23 04:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Bit of an extreme view, but I also wholeheartedly feel that a major part of the problem is how old the people in government tend to be. [13-Jan-23 04:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Like, the US supreme court are elected for life and most of them are so damn old they nap through hearings. The last few presidents are so old they barely speak coherently and are EXTREMELY outdated in terms of modern social needs and tech, and are effectively relics of the past that should have no right or place ruling the collective destiny of entire nations, much less a bunch of senile old miserable assholes ruling all of mankind. [13-Jan-23 04:42 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The idea of older people in government was made for people in their 30s and 40s, not senile fucks in their 60s-80s. [13-Jan-23 04:42 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 there's a reason why the age limit for US president is 35+. [13-Jan-23 04:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 Our leaders are also very old, and they have all been promoted from the grassroots bureaucratic level. [13-Jan-23 04:43 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Old enough to know what life and the world is like, but not so bloody old that they no longer understand what the common man's life and the world is like. [13-Jan-23 04:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 The only good news is that our bureaucrats are professional, corrupt but professional. [13-Jan-23 04:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same in america and brazil. Career politicians with decades of connections mean they're guaranteed to have the most support to rule, but it doesn't mean they're the best for the job. [13-Jan-23 04:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Winning the popularity contest doesn't make you the most qualified. [13-Jan-23 04:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 But the American electoral system will make it difficult for young people to raise enough campaign funds and accumulate enough contacts. [13-Jan-23 04:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Of course. It was designed to be that way. [13-Jan-23 04:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 You must remember the system was designed to prevent british loyalists with british backing from being able to take power in america. [13-Jan-23 04:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its literally designed to be a popularity contest. [13-Jan-23 04:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 same for brazil, against the portuguese monarchists. [13-Jan-23 04:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its, by design, a kind of weird spin on democratic republicanism. [13-Jan-23 04:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Specifically as a result of being colonial powers, rather than old powers. [13-Jan-23 04:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 We don't have an election system, so I don't know how the leaders are elected, but the promotion of bureaucrats at all levels depends on performance besides nepotism. [13-Jan-23 04:47 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same here. Democracy in name, but there's a heavy dose of nepotism and 'performance', where performance is dictated by those already in power, and thus not exactly perfect. [13-Jan-23 04:48 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Both Brazil and US have elections, but the democratic vote isn't what actually determines elections. There are various other mechanisms that do so instead, which the popular vote only somewhat influences. [13-Jan-23 04:48 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hence why I, and countless experts, state that we aren't actually true democracies. [13-Jan-23 04:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 The performance requirements of our bureaucrats are GDP and environmental protection, and such things. [13-Jan-23 04:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 The biggest problem is the lack of restriction of bureaucratic power, which leads to corruption and inefficient investment. [13-Jan-23 04:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you can build a bunch of useless things to increase GDP, although the government finances have caused losses, you may be promoted personally.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 04:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The problem with performance-basis is that it doesn't have any true intrinsic value and is easily corruptible. This is a huge issue in capitalism as well. Though for my favorite example I'd use the Soviets. Increasing the GDP by starving millions of people and instating prison slave labor where you kill off the poor and minorities, simultaneously lowering the overall population and make the economy per capita look better because you can always mass-deport citizens to wherever your factories are, still gets you a higher GDP on paper... but at what cost to human life? [13-Jan-23 04:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 HAH. We have that here too, in both Brazil and the US. [13-Jan-23 04:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I call it short term gain; long term loss. [13-Jan-23 04:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its an endemic problem in all countries, tbh. [13-Jan-23 04:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 In addition, it is forbidden to use coal in rural areas with air pollution, and it is required to switch to natural gas. However, natural gas is expensive and unstable, and some poor people are in great trouble in winter. [13-Jan-23 04:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 I live in an urban area. It's very warm here, with floor heating, but it's too bad in poor rural areas. [13-Jan-23 04:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's the fucking irony isn't it. The older generation that aggressively burned coal enough to absolutely fuck the atmosphere and created the big smog storms over so many major cities screwed it up for the next generation who now has to either suffer with even more coal, or suffer without coal in a transition period where the poor will inevitably get fucked over. [13-Jan-23 04:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Could you explain the natural gas being unstable part? I'm not entirely sure what the context is. [13-Jan-23 04:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 The supply of natural gas in our country is insufficient and we need to import it, but the import is affected by many factors, so the countryside is the most vulnerable in this matter, and cities and factories can obviously give priority to using natural gas. [13-Jan-23 04:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I know that places with sub-par infrastructure/distribution networks have issues with natgas cutoffs/supply, but that's about it. Places like the US & Brazil that are used to using natgas don't have that issue because the infrastructure and distribution was standardized decades ago, but I know there are places like in east Asia that are still in transition from coal & wood burning. We've got places like that in rural brazil & US too, but they're far less common. (mainly due to the fact that the vast majority of the population of both nations live around the major cities, and like 90% of both countries are depopulated) [13-Jan-23 04:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Wait are you from China then? What you're saying reminds me of some stuff I've read about China's oil importation and natgas distribution issues over the last few years. [13-Jan-23 04:59 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though europe is ironically going through a somewhat similar issue now [13-Jan-23 04:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 In the long run, with the production of new natural gas wells, the supply is sufficient, but it will take some time to transition. However, some bureaucrats simply don't care whether you can get stable natural gas or have enough ability to pay now, and in order to achieve environmental protection performance, they force the ban on the use of coal [13-Jan-23 05:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Business as usual. If you can pay, you get access. If you're poor, go fuck yourself. *sigh* [13-Jan-23 05:01 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same shit as everywhere else unfortunately. When arguing between the bottom line, be it profit or productivity on paper for businessmen or bureaucrats, versus admitting to any loss or statemate, the one getting fucked, blamed, and taking the consequences is always be the poor. [13-Jan-23 05:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, although my income has not been affected by COVID-19, my life has not been affected by natural gas lines. [13-Jan-23 05:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 God forbid a board of directors accept a lesser profit margin, or governments just accept that things won't always be able to progress or be in the green every single quarter, and everyone's too afraid to be the one to admit things aren't perfect because it invites their competitors to attack them. [13-Jan-23 05:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 Perhaps the rural areas in the most remote areas will benefit from national policies, but if you live in an area where the life is passable but there are environmental problems, it will be different. [13-Jan-23 05:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 The good news is that you can use air conditioning even if you don't have floor heating and natural gas, but it is too expensive to use electricity for winter. [13-Jan-23 05:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sounds like Brazil. [13-Jan-23 05:06 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Only upper middle class and the rich have access to air conditioning and heating. [13-Jan-23 05:06 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The vast majority of people have, at best, a store-bought space heater for the cold, and a fan for the heat. [13-Jan-23 05:06 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We have air conditioning in our home and the electricity bill is fucking insane. [13-Jan-23 05:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 Because these two countries are both BRICS countries, their GDP is close. Countries with similar economic levels face similar problems, as we discussed before. [13-Jan-23 05:07 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Indeed. [13-Jan-23 05:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Then we are better than Brazil. A few years ago, the government launched home appliances to the countryside. Basically, as long as it is not extremely poor rural areas, there are TVs and air conditioners. [13-Jan-23 05:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We can only afford our lifestyle, however basic it is compared to living in America, because we make American money from our business back stateside. There's no way in hell we could maintain even our current lifestyle on brazilian national salary. Salary here is fucking garbage. [13-Jan-23 05:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Besides, as long as you live in a city in the north, you have heating. [13-Jan-23 05:09 AM] yuen8241#0000 In the past, rural areas could also burn their own heating, but if coal was banned and natural gas supply was insufficient, heating would be useless [13-Jan-23 05:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, the big cities have that stuff, but I live in a smaller city in Minas Gerais. Second biggest in the state, with a few hundred thousand residents, but only the rich sector has that stuff. I live in the poor sector, albeit in a middle class home we built here due to all of the land having once belonged to my grandfather and great grandfather, who sold it to the government and they made the old ranch and farmlands into the local neighborhoods. [13-Jan-23 05:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here a lot of people still use wood burning stoves, coal isn't really a thing here, not for many decades now. [13-Jan-23 05:11 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The center of the city is all commercial, universities, etc, and have a very rich section mostly populated of people who made their money in europe and america then came back and invested in property in brazil. the rest of the city is very poor. [13-Jan-23 05:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Where I live is one of the poorest, and oldest, neighborhoods. [13-Jan-23 05:13 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I live down the street from one of the most violent and drug-filled slums, though we are safe here. Everyone knows who my family is, and we have been strong members of the community for generations and are well respected. If you're just anyone here though, it can be very dangerous to live here. [13-Jan-23 05:13 AM] yuen8241#0000 Our life changes rapidly, and it is different from generation to generation. My grandfather's generation had to farm when he was a child, my father's generation could go to college, and my son's generation had mobile Internet since childhood. [13-Jan-23 05:14 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aye. I am one of only 2 sons of a single mother. My maternal grandparents were poor farmers with 20 children who were considered rich in land but starved regularly and suffered through the dictatorship. [13-Jan-23 05:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 In the last 30 years, this city has gone from a medium-sized village of extreme poverty to a fairly rich place, at least compared to the rest of the state, and by rural brazilian standards. [13-Jan-23 05:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 I can't imagine this life. My hometown city has a population of 10 million, but I go out at 0 pm and there is a night market where I can buy freshly cooked food. [13-Jan-23 05:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Today it has hundreds of thousands of people, a few cute little pseudo-skyscrapers, a bustling commercial district, multiple universities, etc, entirely thanks to foreign investment. [13-Jan-23 05:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 20! I always thought it was enough for my parents to have four brothers and sisters. [13-Jan-23 05:16 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Your city is like my home city in america. Huge population, big city, and while it has some dangerous parts at night, you can mostly be free to do as you please. Plenty of 24 hour markets, food places, etc. [13-Jan-23 05:17 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, something about old country catholics and having way too many kids. I joke that it was because they had no tv and only radio, and needed the extra farmhands ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 05:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have to say that most people in our country will never see guns or drugs in their lifetime. [13-Jan-23 05:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 As a man, I can go anywhere I want when I go out at night without worrying about anything. The most common crimes here are theft, stealing mobile phones and the like. [13-Jan-23 05:20 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 My Dutch paternal grandparents were the opposite. They had maybe 2-3 siblings, and had I think 4 kids? I'm not sure, as my father was very old when I was born, and most of my paternal family died during my childhood. I was 8 when he passed, and I only have one surviving cousin in his 40s, his two sons, and one aunt which I last saw 20 years ago, and an uncle who is in his late 80s or early 90s which I met twice in my life. [13-Jan-23 05:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 There used to be people who stole cash, but now almost no one uses cash, so they can only steal mobile phones.๐Ÿคฃ [13-Jan-23 05:21 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol same here in brazil [13-Jan-23 05:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 I am surrounded by my relatives near my hometown house, and the distance is not far. [13-Jan-23 05:22 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 though criminals are brutal here. In america they will avoid hurting you because police barely investigate theft, and are much more likely to investigate* assault and murder. In Brazil they will shoot you in the face because no one will speak to police and bear witness, and if the main witness is dead, you're very likely to go free, so they are far more likely to viciously beat or murder their robbery victims. [13-Jan-23 05:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 There's also this SUPER weird archaic legal loophole where if you flee from police for 24 hours and are only caught later, you get a lower sentence. [13-Jan-23 05:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 If you say, kill someone, and give yourself up to police willingly, you get MORE jail time and a harsher sentence, rather than rewarding you for doing the right thing. [13-Jan-23 05:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its honestly fucking stupid. [13-Jan-23 05:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Theft here is stealing things from your pocket or bag while you are not paying attention. If they are found, it is easy to be beaten by the owner. [13-Jan-23 05:24 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I think my mother once explained it as being some leftover legal thing from when the portuguese were fleeing portugual and some were accused of murder in portugal and they wanted to give leniency to the newly acquired brazilian citizens rather than throw the book at them. [13-Jan-23 05:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 In principle, people who kill people here will be sentenced to death. [13-Jan-23 05:25 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh yeah, here too (edit: regarding victims fighting back against thieves). In America they will just call the police. In Brazil they will beat the ever loving shit out of you for trying to rob them. ๐Ÿ˜› Another reason why thieves usually go prepared to kill. [13-Jan-23 05:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here to, its very harsh in general, the problem is, its only harsh if they manage to catch you. [13-Jan-23 05:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And its harder to prove you robbed and murdered someone versus you being seen robbing someone. They often wear motorcycle helmets and masks to hide their identity, use stolen vehicles to commit the crimes, then destroy the vehicles and clothing afterward. [13-Jan-23 05:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 and they don't go alone. [13-Jan-23 05:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Recently we had a gang of 50 armed gangsters with stolen assault rifles from murdered military officers to lay siege to a small town bank in order to use stolen mining explosives and blow up the vault containing all the funds. [13-Jan-23 05:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 When they do shit, they go HARD. [13-Jan-23 05:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Other than that its mostly just petty criminals, just poor desperate bastards being idiots. [13-Jan-23 05:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 In the 1980s, we had this situation here. Later, the government took a very severe blow to this kind of criminal behavior, but it also undermined the legal process. [13-Jan-23 05:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same. Brazil was briefly a military dictatorship, and still has a lot of weird legal features of that time. [13-Jan-23 05:29 AM] yuen8241#0000 We have surveillance everywhere, let alone killing people, even stealing things. The police can come to arrest you if they want to arrest you. [13-Jan-23 05:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For example, the rifle-wielding military patrols all over our city, and every city in the country, alongside the actual civil police (which don't do SHIT. They let the military police do all the work and just sit around taking bribes and generally being worthless wastes of public money.) [13-Jan-23 05:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here there isn't much surveillance. The poorer regions just don't have the infrastructure for proper surveillance. [13-Jan-23 05:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The big cities, hell yeah. Tons of it. [13-Jan-23 05:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though criminals are very clever in brazil. they hack surveillance systems, confuse them, or outright destroy them. [13-Jan-23 05:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 in america they just try to avoid being identified, in brazil they go all out in concerted efforts to attack surveillance centers, destroy cameras, etc. [13-Jan-23 05:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 We are all policemen on duty here, and usually they don't have guns when they are on duty. I doubt that many of them will ever shoot a criminal in their lifetime. [13-Jan-23 05:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Sounds very similar to europe in that regard. [13-Jan-23 05:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Definitely a lot more guns in Brazil and US, though according to my relatives in the military and police, most will go their entire career never firing a single bullet. [13-Jan-23 05:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 If someone dares to do this in China, they really don't want to live. [13-Jan-23 05:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The thing is, the people who do these things do have a deathwish. [13-Jan-23 05:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Many of them actively believe they must do this in order to survive and think the government is hunting them. [13-Jan-23 05:33 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 the reality is that the government is so corrupt, inept, and inefficient that they couldn't if they wanted to. ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 05:33 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 they're just very good at pretending and doing military show of force, but they don't really achieve results. [13-Jan-23 05:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Occasionally they'll send in the military to shake down the poorer communities but what usually ends up happening is some innocent person gets killed in a machine gun battle between some dumb bastard drug dealers and the military, and then everyone is pissed off and protesting wondering why the fuck they had to send the military in and start a street war. [13-Jan-23 05:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 All those who did this in China were sentenced to death in the 1980s. Most people here can support themselves as long as they are willing to work, so they won't take part in crime. People involved in crime are usually lazy or greedy. [13-Jan-23 05:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Like, if I wanted to, I could probably buy an illegal gun literally within 24 hours here. They're all old, garbage, imported or stolen guns either from old military depots that should've been destroyed, or brought in from old revolutionary/rebel stashes from the various south american civil wars that took place over the last century. Mostly rusty old garbage just as likely to explode in your hand or misfire. [13-Jan-23 05:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 Wow, if I get a gun, I will be sentenced, and then my career will be ruined.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 05:37 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here too. [13-Jan-23 05:37 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 VERY illegal. [13-Jan-23 05:37 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The police here won't just arrest you. They will blatantly execute you. [13-Jan-23 05:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 So fierce? [13-Jan-23 05:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ...As long as its in the poorer areas where there's no surveillance, yes. [13-Jan-23 05:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 My cousin was the former commander of the 6th military police batallion(edit: main unit that controls all) of the city and he fought against the corruption and violence, and was nearly killed for it. [13-Jan-23 05:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 before him, the MPs were BRUTAL. [13-Jan-23 05:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 In the rich areas, they won't even look at you. In the poorer areas, they will line innocent people at a restaurant all up against the wall, smack them, point rifles at them, and abuse them for fun if they feel like it and no one can do shit. [13-Jan-23 05:39 AM] yuen8241#0000 As long as you are not the kind of subversive opposition to the government here, you will never confront the police in your life. Of course, you may encounter corrupt bureaucrats who want to demolish your house, leading to confrontation with the police. [13-Jan-23 05:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, that's the main problem here. the police is often used as a weapon by local officials when they want something to happen. [13-Jan-23 05:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 You want to force out the poor true owners of land in an area where a foreign investor wants to build? sent the police to make their lives hell. [13-Jan-23 05:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 all under the guise of anti-drug activities or some bullshit [13-Jan-23 05:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 on paper, the government is perfect, and everything is wonderful, but the reality is very different. [13-Jan-23 05:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 My cousin was the commander here so I know first hand. And my brother a detective after serving in the military in america, so I know how fucked up it is there too. [13-Jan-23 05:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 One big illusion, at its heart. [13-Jan-23 05:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Not that anyone is allowed to admit it. [13-Jan-23 05:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 Many of my classmates and friends work in the police and courts. My uncles are warden and judge. [13-Jan-23 05:43 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Likewise. i have judges, lawyers, police, and military in my family. So I get to see the good and bad sides most people don't know about. Sometime people talk shit about the govt/police/army and I'm like "Nah bro, that's not how it works." and other times they brownnose them and I'm also like "nah bro, stop kissing ass, there's xyz problems" [13-Jan-23 05:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 In the 1960s, prisoners were used to dig mines in prisons, which is no longer allowed. So prison is now a closed and boring department. [13-Jan-23 05:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Brazil and US is still very much huge on prisons, mainly because of the private prison system being a big business. I grew up with a kid who's dad was a prison guard who would tell us stories of how things are inside, and some of the stories were pretty fucked up. [13-Jan-23 05:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 Usually, if there are enough interests, government agencies will become cruel. [13-Jan-23 05:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 We don't have a private prison here [13-Jan-23 05:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah that's one thing you guys do much better than here. Some things just should not be privatized. [13-Jan-23 05:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The problem is that government is just as capable of being cruel assholes when there's something to be gains, so public or private, things can be messed up. [13-Jan-23 05:47 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I still, regardless, think privately-owned prisons is a fucking terrible idea. [13-Jan-23 05:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 The main problem in our prisons here is not the torture of prisoners, but the commutation or parole of rich and powerful criminals. [13-Jan-23 05:49 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 We have both problems in brazil, but not as much in america. Sure, some US prisons are utter shitholes with borderline inhuman conditions, but brazil is sooooo much worse. [13-Jan-23 05:49 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And if you're rich or well-connected you can literally get away with murder in brazil. [13-Jan-23 05:49 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 In US there are fringe cases where there's obviously some bullshit going on favoring influential people, but in brazil its right out in the open. [13-Jan-23 05:50 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 As an American I hate the US prison system, but looking at it as a Brazilian... holy fuck brazil's is worse. [13-Jan-23 05:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 This has happened here, and I believe it will happen again now and in the future. But if their existence is exposed, it will lead to the risk that they will be arrested and punished together with the umbrella. [13-Jan-23 05:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 Nowadays, social media is so developed that if some bureaucrats who are not strong enough are exposed and attract enough attention, they will be punished. Whether it's corruption or chaos in private life [13-Jan-23 05:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That too. The "I scratch your back, you scratch mine' quid pro quo behavior. Whether white collar criminals accused of fraud/etc, or hard-hitting criminals, if someone in govt thinks they can be useful to them for whatever reason... suddenly their cases are much smoother. Its almost impossible to prove wrongdoing, but with how much it happens, its fairly obvious that someone somewhere is influencing sentences and such. [13-Jan-23 05:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 The tradition of our country is not to fight against the emperor, but only against corrupt officials.๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [13-Jan-23 05:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Here we blame everything on the emperor and pretend the corrupt bureaucrats don't exist XD [13-Jan-23 05:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Everything is the president's fault magically [13-Jan-23 05:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 and magically the president can fix everything even though no one cares enough to vote out the shitty low and mid level bureaucrats or complain officially [13-Jan-23 05:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 fucking idiots [13-Jan-23 05:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 Except for corrupt senior officials, at least no one on the surface can enjoy this treatment. Legally speaking, plea bargaining is not allowed. [13-Jan-23 05:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 and then the president doesn't fix the problem and they get mad at the president [13-Jan-23 05:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 What we have here is just the opposite. As long as you don't oppose communist party as a whole and the top leaders, opposing corrupt officials is allowed. [13-Jan-23 05:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Like I tell my mother, you can't put all of your faith on the ruler of the nation fixing all the nation's problems if you're all too cowardly to report crime, complain about corrupt officials, and actually make it so the president can ever even be made aware a problem exists in the first place. Secondly, its not the president's job to fix these things. There's an entirely government designed to balance itself, so pay attention to who is in the congress, who is the mayor, who is doing what, and not just hope the leader can fix everything because when its 1 leader against tens of thousands of bureaucrats, guess what? 99% of the bureaucrats will cover each others asses, even while they compete and try to ruin each other, smiling all the way because they all want the same thing. [13-Jan-23 05:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 If an official who is not senior enough is caught committing adultery, taking drugs and whoring, as long as it is exposed, he will be finished. [13-Jan-23 05:57 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The problem is that corruption always comes from the top-down, and not the bottom-up. [13-Jan-23 05:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Every system, every nation, its either willing or negligent, but either way some loophole or problem allows the middle and lower levels to do their bullshit [13-Jan-23 05:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 whether by the system's flawed design, by some upper official just having other more pressing shit to worry about, or the various rivalries leading to favoritism or negligence in watching the lower ranks [13-Jan-23 05:59 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 not to mention the lower ranks will always pretend to be lockstep in line with their superiors while doing their bullshit in secret [13-Jan-23 06:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 This problem is too difficult to solve, and it has taken more than one billion people hundreds of years to solve it. As I said before, choose a strong unelected government and expect it to do a good job in the economy and increase everyone's income, or wait for corruption and disasters to lead to economic collapse and violent revolution. [13-Jan-23 06:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And honestly its hard to blame them. What is a lower level official to think if he sees a senior official can do as they please and barely get punished? they then want that ability. They'll either try to rise to that level to gain that power, or they will try to exercise some modicum of that power in secret at their level [13-Jan-23 06:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, its an unsolvable problem. People will be people, and just generally be greedy selfish pricks. [13-Jan-23 06:00 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Especially and specifically where power in concerned. [13-Jan-23 06:01 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The citizen who wouldn't be corrupt and steal and fuck around will rarely ever be in a position to even be considered for a position of power, much less volunteer or attempt to gain one. (and actually succeed) [13-Jan-23 06:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 The current regime was won in a civil war that lasted for hundreds of years. Even if you do it all over again, who knows that the new winner is not the same? [13-Jan-23 06:02 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Honestly who the hell knows. [13-Jan-23 06:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, the political game is bad money driving out good money. Good people will not be in power. [13-Jan-23 06:03 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Oh god you just reminded me of the Taiping Rebellion [13-Jan-23 06:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'm surprised you know this. [13-Jan-23 06:04 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Was it taiping... I think it was taiping. I could be remembering wrong. The random weird religious uprising you guys had after that crazy guy got converted and decided to proclaim himself as the living embodiment of god or whatever it was [13-Jan-23 06:04 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Why are the religious uprisings always the weirdest [13-Jan-23 06:04 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 lol I love history and the weirder the better. And history is full of strangeness. [13-Jan-23 06:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The thing I found interesting is that, for all the weird pseudo-religious mumbojumpo, the dude did a hell of a job formulating an anti-imperialist populist rebellion [13-Jan-23 06:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 which was pretty badass in and of itself [13-Jan-23 06:05 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 especially for that period in history [13-Jan-23 06:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 The Taiping Rebellion is estimated to have killed tens of millions of people. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [13-Jan-23 06:06 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Definitely also one of the absolutely most fucked up conflict in human history, not just Chinese. [13-Jan-23 06:07 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 What is it about the driving force of faith that leads people to commit, and accomplish, such incredible, and at times terrifying, feats? [13-Jan-23 06:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 If indirect losses are considered, it is estimated that 100 million people died. [13-Jan-23 06:07 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Holy shit [13-Jan-23 06:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Poverty, greedy [13-Jan-23 06:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That would make it almost as bad as the TOTAL sum losses of both military and civilian life throughout every single interconnected conflict in world war 2 [13-Jan-23 06:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 In one single country, no less. [13-Jan-23 06:08 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Holy fuck man. [13-Jan-23 06:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 The opium and textiles dumped by Britain into China led to the bankruptcy of many farmers, so the rebellion against the rulers of ethnic minorities took place. [13-Jan-23 06:09 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I think the higher projections of loss of life for WW2 was, what, like 100-150m total in the main ww2 combatant nations, with a stupidly huge number of those being civilians [13-Jan-23 06:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 The Taiping Rebellion is only one of the most famous and influential. [13-Jan-23 06:10 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For sure. Y'all have had a very rich history of crazy civil conflicts over your very long history. [13-Jan-23 06:12 AM] yuen8241#0000 So as long as it is passable, no one wants to subvert the government. Because too many people have died for a stable era. [13-Jan-23 06:12 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I could be wrong but I wonder what the world would be life if China had retained its merchant fleets and armada during the reign of... I forget his name, but that one Nero-like emperor y'all had that went all xenophobic and isolationist. With a strong international sphere and navy, when the british arrived a few years later, its very possible y'all would've kicked their asses. [13-Jan-23 06:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 ZhuDi [13-Jan-23 06:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Maybe I'm wrong and Britain was just too powerful at the time, but China was a powerhouse and, if not for its isolationist period, things might've played out quite dramatically and quite differently. I kinda doubt britain was that strong though. Obviously I wasn't there for my opinion to be worst shit, but from all the historical accounts of china's military prowess and its navy, had y'all not been embroiled in civil conflict and shrunken the navy, I could definitely see a chinese victory against the brits. The british navy's strength is very well documented and y'all were evenly matched, which chinese navy having the strong point due to port proximity, while british would have to sail clear across the southern hemisphere in order to resupply and reinforce. [13-Jan-23 06:15 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I'm not good at remembering names, so I've no idea, I just vaguely recall writing a paper about it years ago and arguing on the side of china winning lol [13-Jan-23 06:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 I don't think anything will change. China people don't have the idea that looting is better than farming. ZhuDi's fleet does not plunder, but only wants the other side to pay tribute. In this case, it is a loss to trade with Africa or Southeast Asia and India. [13-Jan-23 06:17 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I feel like its the same in US and Brazil. outside of a vocal minority while 99% of the country thinks are insane, the vast majority of people want progress but don't know what or how to accomplish this effectively without causing chaos, so mostly things move at a snail's pace because of fear of instability. [13-Jan-23 06:19 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The irony is that pre-imperial britain felt the same way. Its after they got looted repeatedly by the norse for a few hundred years that they decided 'fuck it, my turn' and rampaged across the world being a bunch of petulant assholes. [13-Jan-23 06:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 As for the war with Britain, China's military technology was far behind Britain at that time, and it was at the end of the dynasty, which was very corrupt and the army lacked combat effectiveness. [13-Jan-23 06:20 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Was that condition prevalent prior to the rule of the isolationist emperor? Or was it just one more step in a long series of events that slowly degrated china's military ability? [13-Jan-23 06:22 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's the part I was never quite sure of. Whether the demilitarization took place over a generation, or if it was a multi-generation cascade that ultimately culminated in britain having not only the technological advantage, but a fullscale military advantage. Because just having superior tech wouldn't have immediately meant victory, seeing as how they couldn't just march into china, or bring any sort of siege weaponry domestically, and would have to rely on port blockades and direct military action via troops brought in by sea. To my understanding, the naval aspect was their biggest strength at the time, and had china been a little stronger, they likely would've been too afraid to try the bullshit they pulled against y'all. [13-Jan-23 06:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Granted... India... [13-Jan-23 06:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 I always thought they were a bunch of people. The Saxons conquered England after Rome retreated๏ผŒthe Norman became the king of England๏ผŒthe royal family of the Netherlands became the king of England. These are all ethnic groups derived from northern Europe. [13-Jan-23 06:23 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yes and no. Its a lot more complex and nuanced that that. [13-Jan-23 06:25 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The british isles has multiple distinct cultures that the british, after hundreds of years, managed to unite via marriages and conquest. irish kingdoms, scottish kingdoms, welsh kingdoms, cornwallian kingdom, etc. There were once dozens and dozens of petty kings in britain, but a series of extremely ambitious and very religious rulers fought aginst the norse migrants in ireland and england, pushed them out here, merged with them there, struck lucrative deals with neighbors, received alternately support, rivalry, and at times outright war against norway and france, and so forth, until eventually only one royal family held all the power. [13-Jan-23 06:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 Because of the long-term lack of maritime challenges in China, all challenges come from nomadic people in the northern grasslands, so there is a lack of naval tradition. When the Qing Dynasty conquered the Mongols, China basically had no land threat nearby and did not start the development of natural science, so military technology began to decline. [13-Jan-23 06:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 To the point that the british royal family actually ruled every single european power that fought in world war 1 lol [13-Jan-23 06:26 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 russian tsar, german ruler, british ruler, french ruler, etc, all the royals were cousins [13-Jan-23 06:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For example, Dublin Ireland was originally founded by norsemen from norway [13-Jan-23 06:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 a good chunk of central england was also colonized by norsemen [13-Jan-23 06:27 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 holland too [13-Jan-23 06:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 You mean the descendants of Queen Victoria? Haha, countries ruled by cousins will also beat their heads off, and finally the British royal family will have to change the name of the family that shows German descent. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [13-Jan-23 06:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 this racial and cultural tension with the norse was used as a driving factor to unite the rival petty kings into a centralized england [13-Jan-23 06:28 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, they're a whole clusterfuck lol [13-Jan-23 06:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 If not for this particular crazy guy in england back before england existed, england would likely never have become an imperial power [13-Jan-23 06:29 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 same way rome probably never would've become the roman empire if not for a particular series of highly unlikely events that took place in history [13-Jan-23 06:30 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Its crazy just how much of world-changing history happened as it did because of some ridiculously unlikely bullshit turn of events that could have easily gone the other way [13-Jan-23 06:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 Her elders defeated Napoleon for her. [13-Jan-23 06:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 Britain's continental balance policy was inherited by the United States, so it is really annoying. [13-Jan-23 06:31 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I like to imagine what Egypt would've been like had they not been cucked by Greece [13-Jan-23 06:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 Alexander even helped bring some elements of Greek culture to China. [13-Jan-23 06:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah, unfortunately we took on the british imperialist mantle mostly as a middle-finger to our british forefathers, the same way a petulant child might try to out-do their parent in an attempt to show that they're not a child anymore [13-Jan-23 06:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 Greek sculpture [13-Jan-23 06:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Same with Chinese innovations coming west. [13-Jan-23 06:32 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hell, the entire history of european wars went fucking WILD after we jacked gunpower from you guys [13-Jan-23 06:33 AM] yuen8241#0000 We use gunpowder to set off fireworks, and you use gunpowder to blow up the city walls.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 06:34 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though I'd argue the ottomans are the ones who really went nuts with gunpower. Crazy-ass giant bronze cast bombard cannons they would build en masse, drag everywhere, and just casually abandon XD [13-Jan-23 06:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 We use the compass to find the cemetery, and you use the compass to find the new continent.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 06:35 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 China make fireworks for pretty show, ottoman turks decide to make fuck-you lightshow with the entire god damn defensive wall of a city, then europeans go ๐Ÿ‘€ Hey uhh can we maybe make a smaller version of that? En masse? And eventually you get MURICA with our assault rifles lol [13-Jan-23 06:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 In fact, a country needs challenges to grow. China has dominated East Asia for too long and lacked challenges, leading to its lack of enterprise and eventual decline. [13-Jan-23 06:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 For real. And so much of that has to do with geography. You guys got so strong and so big that you didn't have anyone to fight except yourselves. Europe only got so advanced because they constantly had all these separate neighboring cultures fighting and competing [13-Jan-23 06:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I can't even count how many fucking times france and england have fought each other [13-Jan-23 06:36 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hell, you can argue US only won the revolution because france figured it'd be fun to fuck over england by helping us ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 06:37 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Though, uhh... Maybe don't bankrupt your kingdom helping a colonial nation overthrow their king, then wonder why the french people kind of want to tell their king to fuck off too. If the french king had seen the writing on the wall, he might've kept his head like the british royals did. [13-Jan-23 06:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 So in the early days of human society, geography decided many things, such as mode of production and social structure, which eventually led to different cultural traditions. [13-Jan-23 06:38 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 France: *helps america overthrow the king* French people looking at french king: ๐Ÿ‘€ [13-Jan-23 06:39 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Definitely. Many arguments are made that, if not for britain being stuck on a tiny shitty little miserable island, they wouldn't have tried to become an empire. same with the impetus behind rome innovating as they did on the italian peninsula. opposite, america would've stayed away from most of the world and stayed isolationist if not for being attacked in ww2. [13-Jan-23 06:39 AM] yuen8241#0000 There is a similar situation in East Asia. The Ming Dynasty helped Korea resist the Japanese invasion, which eventually led to its financial bankruptcy and an uprising. [13-Jan-23 06:40 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 the whole china-korea-japan-mongolia thing is a whole other ordeal. You guys have flipped back and forth for magnitudes longer than my home country has even existed lol [13-Jan-23 06:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 China's habit is to be self-sufficient and let neighboring countries pay tribute. [13-Jan-23 06:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Similar approach to what I understand Ghenghis Khan took, kinda [13-Jan-23 06:41 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 but you guys had land [13-Jan-23 06:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 If the British hadn't forced China people to buy opium and attacked China for it, it is estimated that China people would still be there by themselves. [13-Jan-23 06:42 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 britain had people but not enough land at that point in their history. if britain had more land, they probably would've just stayed put and asked for tribute too. As they did earlier in their history before their population grew large enough to need more land. for centuries they did the whole stay-put and have people pay tribute or trade. and then... they went nuts. [13-Jan-23 06:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 Genghis Khan is a Mongolian. He likes to conquer. Although many emperors of China also liked to conquer small countries nearby that didn't pay tribute, they usually didn't fight that far. [13-Jan-23 06:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 And if the norse hadn't raided and looted and colonized the british isles, the original sheepish brits probably would've been contentedly chilling on their rainy little island to this day. In many ways, it was the conflict with the norse that awakened their warrior spirit and warlike tendencies. they were pretty isolationist and cowardly before that. [13-Jan-23 06:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 Britain sells opium to China because if there is no opium, the trade between China and Britain is completely China surplus. [13-Jan-23 06:44 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 To be fair, you guys had, and still have, an insane amount of land for an old power. [13-Jan-23 06:45 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 At some point in the distant past, though, y'all were much smaller. I'd like to read more about very old chinese historical accounts from those days, if they exist. [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 But we also lost a lot of land and tribute countries. [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 That kinda leads me to wonder... is there a sort of optimal equilibrium of conflict and rivalry with ones regional neighbors that provides just the right about of trade, growth, innovation, etc? [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 But at least better than Ottoman Turkey.๐Ÿคฃ [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 >_> [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Cough [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Yeah ottoman turks kinda got fucked [13-Jan-23 06:46 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 though modern day turkey is pretty chonky [13-Jan-23 06:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 This is a reason similar to religion, philosophy and culture. [13-Jan-23 06:47 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 aye [13-Jan-23 06:48 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 enough variation to create organic conflict and relations, but not either too much or too little to lead to stagnation [13-Jan-23 06:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 The emperor thinks that the whole world should be ruled by him. However, it is very difficult to govern in many places. Although some regions and countries used to be the territory of China, they all gave up when the dynasty changed, and their cultures were different. Like North Korea and Vietnam. [13-Jan-23 06:50 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 The way of all empires, in the end [13-Jan-23 06:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 North Korea was China's territory during some periods of the Han and Tang Dynasties. Northern Vietnam was part of China during the Tang and Ming Dynasties. These two were finally abandoned because it was difficult to rule, and instead asked for tribute and no longer conquered by force. These two countries accepted the conferment of Emperor China and paid tribute regularly. [13-Jan-23 06:52 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Rule by force isn't always the optimal route, in the end. It gets expensive, both in terms of resources and lives. [13-Jan-23 06:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 So China assimilated all the places that were easy to rule, leaving only tributary countries. I wonder what would happen if I gave the ancient emperors of China a map of the world [13-Jan-23 06:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Not to mention sometimes its just not even really necessary. If they'll pay tribute, why even bother with conquest, if not just to depopulate the nation and have fewer fighting-age men to potentially rebel [13-Jan-23 06:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 They seem to think that China is the center of the world. [13-Jan-23 06:53 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 (which I'd argue has always been a MAJOR motivator for wars throughout history... if the fighting-age men are fighting the 'Other', they can't be at home planning to overthrow the king/emperor) [13-Jan-23 06:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 China's tribute is that the tributary countries give less and return more.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 06:54 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 To be fair, every nation thought itself the center of the world ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 06:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Literally every map model of every culture is central around their territory, because that's how maps work [13-Jan-23 06:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 China is concerned about the attitude of these tributary countries, not the wealth paid. [13-Jan-23 06:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 much like how we thought ourselves center of the solar system until we realized we weren't, and central of the galaxy until we realized we weren't, and central of the universe until we realized we weren't [13-Jan-23 06:55 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 we humans. So egocentric lol [13-Jan-23 06:56 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 I am here, therefore I am central to all around me ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 06:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 NIke is the center of PRUN.๐Ÿคฉ {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ [13-Jan-23 06:57 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 It'd be fucking awesome if we could go have and speak to ancient eastern and western philosophers with modern resources like internet database. [13-Jan-23 06:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Can you imagine what they'd think and say and ponder with access to modern info like maps and such? [13-Jan-23 06:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have something to do at home. I'll talk to you later๐Ÿ˜† [13-Jan-23 06:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 even only if you could bring a print-out of the world, and the solar system, and tell them about the planets and the galaxy [13-Jan-23 06:58 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 hah cheers bud! [13-Jan-23 06:59 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 ANT CX is my sun [13-Jan-23 07:04 AM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hey, who was it that sent me an Apex Pro code back when I first joined? I'm trying to find it lol. My pro trial ends tomorrow and I'm curious to see if, once the trial is over, if I can redeem another code. I vaguely recall whoever it was randomly gave me a code to try, and I couldn't redeem it because I already had pro active from the code Lazy gave me in exchange for my original Harmonia sponsorship. Figure its worth a shot to see if it expiring will allow me to re-up since doubling-up didn't work. [13-Jan-23 07:49 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I believe they donโ€™t allow that [13-Jan-23 07:49 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Like the system will reject it [13-Jan-23 07:53 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063455732491636837/IMG_1930.png?ex=6814ce54&is=68137cd4&hm=417552e172b69c6ff3a1cc1432fb101a3ef8ef73ef70e3881197906684f3ca3a& [13-Jan-23 07:53 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Didnt expect such in depth discussion was fun to read! [13-Jan-23 07:55 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 That would be in our chat if you didnt redeem it yet ๐Ÿ˜› [13-Jan-23 08:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063468648120979528/bbbce82b487742e891f950f272faba3b.gif?ex=6814da5c&is=681388dc&hm=713a69d73fd627530b502a1c24e853d796af8d5f1f37a64acca323922f4d8b1c& [13-Jan-23 08:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 @xenoxerarch This is the territorial change of China. [13-Jan-23 08:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 It may be partly controversial because of realistic political reasons, but it is roughly like this. [13-Jan-23 09:44 AM] domicius#0000 Advisory: sometimes something is expensive, and we think about becoming self sufficient in it. This level of output, however, might demand a level of output that is actually a lot of effort to build/maintain. Whereas a lower level of output might not make you self-sufficient, but it will reduce your *average* cost of the item, sometimes significantly. So plan accordingly. {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) [13-Jan-23 10:02 AM] hernanduer#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (5) [13-Jan-23 10:03 AM] Deleted User#0000 Hey I invited Hernanduer to check out our corporation.. he is a new player on Harmonia [13-Jan-23 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 Hello [13-Jan-23 10:08 AM] Deleted User#0000 Check out the #welcome and #rules-faq to get you up to speed, and feel free to ask questions in our channels.. have fun ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-Jan-23 10:13 AM] Deleted User#0000 @hernanduer do you have some ideas what industry that you want to get involved, yet? [13-Jan-23 10:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm enjoying the food right now, so I'll probably fill out consumables up through HYDRO [13-Jan-23 10:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm making most of my money running contracts right now though, definitely the best way to start {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– [13-Jan-23 11:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Hernanduer! [13-Jan-23 01:30 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome! โœŒ๏ธ [13-Jan-23 02:11 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Aww ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Ah well [13-Jan-23 02:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 That's such a mind-boggling amount of territory to manage. [13-Jan-23 02:12 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Especially back in the day before modern technology. What a pain in the ass it must've been. [13-Jan-23 02:13 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Likewise, it was fun to discuss. History is always a fun topic (at least for me) ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-Jan-23 02:15 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Heya welcome Hernan ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-Jan-23 02:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 hey, thanks [13-Jan-23 03:00 PM] yuen8241#0000 Welcome ๏ผ [13-Jan-23 09:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess Swift Mining Group pulled all their water down. http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-04-46.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-04-46.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SKhKzK5zKdbtSmq4wClhSj4x9mlJdzis9ZLlP6V5A8A/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-04-46.png [13-Jan-23 09:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 compared to yesterday [13-Jan-23 09:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mine isn't moving very fast though. [13-Jan-23 09:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is this guy seriously buying water for 45? I don't get it. [13-Jan-23 09:05 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Is he trying to buy up the entire market then drive up the price? Or is he just nuts [13-Jan-23 09:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 heh so it seems [13-Jan-23 09:07 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063655577970028554/image.png?ex=6814dfb3&is=68138e33&hm=ad43c57be4b2c5c1ecfbccfd690c055b48c1c95ec9c0bae8ebb117e91685eda8& [13-Jan-23 09:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 I can sell water at the price of 111 CIS.๐Ÿ˜… [13-Jan-23 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nice! ๐Ÿ”ฅ [13-Jan-23 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-07-55.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-07-55.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8oZBr7gGC8VQqEZs3R7Y1ahfUUXFd2A17KiU5Np4EuQ/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-07-55.png [13-Jan-23 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 he bought 1 of mine too [13-Jan-23 09:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 He just wants to trigger the price signal. [13-Jan-23 09:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 ahh, right. [13-Jan-23 09:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 Today, I will put a total of 23k water on BEN, and I will first stop him from selling it at a high price to make a profit. [13-Jan-23 09:10 PM] yuen8241#0000 If he likes buying H2O so much, I can sell him all my stocks in etherwind and kw-602c.๐Ÿ˜† [13-Jan-23 09:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 Just let my FP produce RAT for a while. [13-Jan-23 09:13 PM] yuen8241#0000 The price increase from 20 to 45 makes me earn at least 50k CIS more a day, thanks to him๐Ÿฅณ [13-Jan-23 09:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just made this on Norwick, so I'm ready if DW prices rise [13-Jan-23 09:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-12-54.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-12-54.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/OTCUKX1xeuQ8vwgy8Zb9-U5uQt07mesa62jD8J9B4VY/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-13_21-12-54.png [13-Jan-23 09:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063657556200931478/image.png?ex=6814e18b&is=6813900b&hm=27fea7b1c401369e46257ac54fed100ecd0d3add85a43fbca9a8b85a40ae1185& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063657556419031141/image.png?ex=6814e18b&is=6813900b&hm=f0eaf2aa44505ac7975e00ec4e24ac62baad3ec89c89a57ebf62b505ed40c0cd& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063657556796526602/image.png?ex=6814e18b&is=6813900b&hm=8a67104e6831ef4ecd171b06bd38dc0fed6cc0ebfd831b74bff2a7336dcf1b49& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063657557043986533/image.png?ex=6814e18b&is=6813900b&hm=efd12d001bf40f551eeb32537f14288ee290d26dc9b401f4fd53729929293487& [13-Jan-23 09:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe we should buy up all the DW and post ours at an inflated price ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Jan-23 09:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 This is about 75k DW. I'm also waiting for the price increase.๐Ÿคฉ [13-Jan-23 09:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1063658502096158820/image.png?ex=6814e26c&is=681390ec&hm=9bb27f71f2834043eccb4e5ea65e2e2b4feaa66e498070281625a29998bcc12c& [13-Jan-23 09:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 Now it's near the bottom [13-Jan-23 09:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 However, at least 230k DW is needed to raise the market, which requires too much money. [13-Jan-23 09:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm yeah, I suppose you need to do all the exchanges at the same time. [13-Jan-23 09:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think it's time to start purchasing DW at low prices. [13-Jan-23 09:29 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 We need a market tips channel like #prunbets [13-Jan-23 09:30 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Also a bloomberg like streaming channel just about the Prun market [13-Jan-23 09:40 PM] dehzhas#0000 Both? [13-Jan-23 10:37 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome to OOG! Make yourself at home in the Discord and feel free to take advantage of our corp pricing and re-fueling stations while you're checking OOG out. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Cheers [14-Jan-23 01:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am 100% stealing this shipment [14-Jan-23 01:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-14_13-33-57.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-14_13-33-57.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hpXtAnJ8M8gihb66CDoHALkun9GYrBnKDHth0DiGuKY/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-01-14_13-33-57.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (3) [14-Jan-23 01:38 PM] exeler#0000 Does it actually give you the shipment if you breach it? [14-Jan-23 02:11 PM] dehzhas#0000 At least until the devs patch it, yes [14-Jan-23 02:11 PM] dehzhas#0000 You are making me want to turn faction contracts back on [14-Jan-23 02:17 PM] churavis#0000 It's going to be BTA, no one has reported anything higher tier being transported [14-Jan-23 02:21 PM] dehzhas#0000 Still, would you rather get 4K or 200k? [14-Jan-23 02:22 PM] dehzhas#0000 What is your faction rep? [14-Jan-23 05:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 162 [14-Jan-23 05:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, the list of items in the contracts is pretty small and all T1 stuff. But 200k of BTA is far better than all the other rewards combined. [14-Jan-23 05:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 what's the spreadsheet you're using to estimate the contents? [14-Jan-23 05:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Here's a shared one, just make a copy of it [14-Jan-23 05:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fNh0klU91F6izWeSC8IaDrCDkKtZ70EB_t7kjfeE3uc/edit#gid=1251712872 [14-Jan-23 05:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 cool thanks [14-Jan-23 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 enjoy ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Jan-23 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Pirating faction contracts finally gives the returns that they should have had all along [14-Jan-23 05:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 I went back over the ones I had done already, and I had similar one. 110 BTA or ATA ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [14-Jan-23 05:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 makes sense that you can steal it though - that's why EVE had collateral in most of their contracts [15-Jan-23 01:36 AM] habix3956#0000 How do you breach it? Just never deliver.. or? [15-Jan-23 01:37 AM] gladeowl#0000 Yup. If you go over the deadline. The recipient gets an option to breach. Dk how it works with AI though. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Jan-23 05:17 AM] dehzhas#0000 If you feel like it, I would love a vote for my haiku: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/6th-big-haiku-contest/5436/11 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/6th-big-haiku-contest/5436/11 6th big haiku contest I hear rich folk say That their ships have bots that play and sometimes fix holes https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mAvaVx_8QGvc5Nf7Mjl8Xc5smRzNhvmB-p86AtxAO_M/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a07f4343d987b7694c9f9a5818119c03abf4b5bf.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [16-Jan-23 01:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 hey guys, how do I go about officially joining? [16-Jan-23 01:41 PM] churavis#0000 Did you read the Welcome channel? [16-Jan-23 01:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah, no I suppose not ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Jan-23 02:53 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Someone bought my first LIS for 500k on the CX, that was nice of them. [16-Jan-23 02:54 PM] churavis#0000 Are you making LIS now? [16-Jan-23 03:00 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I had to keep my APF busy so yeah [16-Jan-23 10:49 PM] erklein#0000 If anyone has spare WEL capacity, let me know. I'm looking for someone to make a large quantity of GC. I can help with providing inputs if needed [16-Jan-23 10:59 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 How many do you need? [17-Jan-23 02:03 AM] erklein#0000 Somewhere between 300-1000 should be good [17-Jan-23 11:09 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 My 2 WEL make TRU as filler I can swap to GC, the first 100 will be done in just over a day. [17-Jan-23 11:29 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, I think you'll find the process in the #welcome channel - we require one week trial period on the Discord and trading with you to make sure its a good fit before we invite you in game. Give it a couple more days and someone will send you and invite and we'll upgrade your roles here on the Discord! [17-Jan-23 11:59 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Joined the server. [17-Jan-23 12:06 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Welcome @neth_havoc, as we discussed give the #welcome and #rules-faq channels a read and make yourself at home! If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Cheers [17-Jan-23 12:07 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Thank you, I will do and hi to all! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) [17-Jan-23 12:35 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome! โœŒ๏ธ [17-Jan-23 02:10 PM] churavis#0000 Should we add an Outer Rim channel for all the planets that aren't big enough for their own channel yet? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Jan-23 02:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yes [17-Jan-23 02:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Neth! [17-Jan-23 02:33 PM] dehzhas#0000 I find it oddly satisfying to think of planets like Proxion as "Outer Rim" because we are so Antares centric that planets close to other exchanges are considered outer rim. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [17-Jan-23 02:40 PM] churavis#0000 By 'big enough' I mean in regards to how many Boogers have bases on the planet because who cares about anyone else? [17-Jan-23 02:56 PM] dehzhas#0000 Antares forever!! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ (2) ๐Ÿ”ซ (3) ๐Ÿฅง (7) ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฒ (2) ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐ŸŸฅ ๐ŸŸฆ (2) ๐ŸŸฉ [18-Jan-23 02:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have moved my low-end consumable production base to BEN, so that I can focus on shipbuilding and high-end consumables at ANT. [18-Jan-23 02:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 By the way, I also built a WIN base in HRT. It's like buying a winery in champagne in reality. [18-Jan-23 02:38 AM] habix3956#0000 random question: is there actually some use to not land on surface with ship? can you move cargo from one ship to another if both in orbit? [18-Jan-23 02:48 AM] domicius#0000 No point being in orbit, and you cant transfer there. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Jan-23 05:30 AM] domicius#0000 https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-raiders-win-gif-18545235 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-raiders-win-gif-18545235 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/MW6dG7LINaCxYsPu07pEpDr3-VySSWhxiyp1P6thHVM/https/media.tenor.com/-EpCMheWILAAAAAD/happy-dance.png [18-Jan-23 05:30 AM] domicius#0000 Broke 10Mil {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) ๐Ÿ’ฐ [18-Jan-23 07:22 AM] churavis#0000 You can transfer fuel from the cargo bay to the fuel tank in orbit [18-Jan-23 08:47 AM] habix3956#0000 Was planning to steal 2 shipments from faction contracts.. I guess I can open the first one when the deadline ends, but the second one doesn't even have a deadline O_o [18-Jan-23 08:47 AM] habix3956#0000 Did they change something, or can you steal only 1 shipment at once?! [18-Jan-23 08:49 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1065281780594253964/image.png?ex=6814db78&is=681389f8&hm=7bf19427d730ca95973fddd369bc0b65fd393b32d7d071511ddf14d69fe711c3& [18-Jan-23 10:26 AM] allocater#0000 I think it's 2 different types of contracts [18-Jan-23 10:41 AM] habix3956#0000 oh.. one with and one without the deadline {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Jan-23 10:50 AM] archielvahr#0000 The one on the right which you can steal is probably 18 BDE or 18 TRU [18-Jan-23 08:05 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1065451896074141776/image.png?ex=6814d127&is=68137fa7&hm=7a30f39de797b390a96bc3069c798329fff950e0e32a9f664592aa7be5952f51& [18-Jan-23 08:05 PM] yuen8241#0000 Why doesn't this guy keep buying? I brought it here for nothing.๐Ÿ˜… [18-Jan-23 08:13 PM] churavis#0000 You're mad he's not still nuking the H2O market? [18-Jan-23 08:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 I just hope to empty his pockets a little more before he stops. [18-Jan-23 08:17 PM] yuen8241#0000 I thought it would be a fierce war. We kept supplying water to defeat him, but I didn't expect it to end in an anticlimactic way.๐Ÿคฃ [18-Jan-23 08:17 PM] churavis#0000 What a disappointing troll [18-Jan-23 08:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 I probably sold him 40k of water in ben, and I brought 20k to ANT. [18-Jan-23 08:18 PM] churavis#0000 Watch the price of H2O plummet now [18-Jan-23 08:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 It's okay. I can save the water, wait for the next madman and directly crush him at the beginning of his attack. [18-Jan-23 08:47 PM] optitronic#0000 Hey corp mates. I accidentally let a few contracts expire recently. So sorry about that. Classes at college just started back up for me and I have a new job that I'm getting used to. I don't think I'm really gonna have the time to play the game right now so I'll leave the corp so that there's more dividends to go around. Hopefully I can rejoin soon lol. If I owe you money for an expired contract send me a PM and I'll make sure to pay you. Take care. ๐Ÿ–– {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (7) ๐Ÿ–– (5) [18-Jan-23 08:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 I regret your departure and hope your life will be better and better. [18-Jan-23 09:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 We'll miss you arguis! Come back when the universe reboots for sure! [19-Jan-23 12:03 AM] domicius#0000 Best of luck! [19-Jan-23 07:55 AM] .zogii#0000 Just noticed he is doing this to Ammonia now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [19-Jan-23 09:44 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I don't think we can battle that one, I just sold 2K AMM to Rune. But I have another 1000+ on QJ if anyone needs some [19-Jan-23 09:45 AM] dehzhas#0000 I will need AMM, I normally rely on CX for that. Price? [19-Jan-23 09:48 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, no problem. Price is 60/u on QJ-382g, let me know how much you want and I'll send you a 20-day contract (leaves you plenty of time to pick it up) [19-Jan-23 09:58 AM] .zogii#0000 I also have 2600 AMM on QJ-382g if anyone needs it and wants to pick up there. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [19-Jan-23 11:04 AM] dehzhas#0000 I'll take 1,000 [19-Jan-23 01:02 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 There seems to be a PG shortage now. It got cleared out yesterday up to 40/u and so I posted the 33k I had then Firefreak came and cleared that out in one order. [19-Jan-23 01:04 PM] churavis#0000 Let's see if we can break some records [19-Jan-23 01:05 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I won't have more on ANT for a few days but I do like the nice 1.3mil AIC though ๐Ÿ’ฐ [19-Jan-23 01:06 PM] churavis#0000 Now there are at least some offers for the most desperate [19-Jan-23 01:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm thinking base #2 should be a chemistry [19-Jan-23 01:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 griffonstone I guess? [19-Jan-23 01:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 Antares ii g is kinda expensive to build on [19-Jan-23 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 use that to support expansion from RATs into CAF and eventually FIMs [19-Jan-23 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 and maybe throw OVE in there too [19-Jan-23 01:34 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I think it's A2d that is chem, G is a gas giant. If you want to efficiently mass produce something, COF is always in demand. It's very easy to out produce demand for higher end consumables so don't go crazy. [19-Jan-23 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah right, don't have game open atm, was working on memory ๐Ÿ™‚ Yeah, FIMs would be a small part, I'd like to cover other consumables derived from HER as well, like KOM [19-Jan-23 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 but first NS then DDT is what I was thinking with regards to chem base [19-Jan-23 01:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 but also PE/PG [19-Jan-23 01:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 for the OVE route [19-Jan-23 01:41 PM] erklein#0000 I can supply you with a large amount of N for the NS [19-Jan-23 01:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind once I get there. Still need some more setup on Harmonia first [19-Jan-23 01:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Norwick is probably best for FIM, KOM, and COF. It's worth shipping the farming products from Harmonia to Norwick for that step (especially since RAT -> FIM is a two stage FP process) [19-Jan-23 01:46 PM] churavis#0000 You should start with a Norwick base making RAT/DW first and just leave room for other stuff in the future {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ (2) [19-Jan-23 01:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah, Norwick might be base 2 instead for the FPs, still trying to work on order [19-Jan-23 01:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I make my DDT on Griffonstone, but ANT 2d is a good option too [19-Jan-23 01:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 But you can buy DDT in the short term for your HER needs [19-Jan-23 01:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's what I was thinking of doing for PEs to make OVEs - there seems to be a huge upside on just that last step with the BMP, something like 3AIC/min [19-Jan-23 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's at market RCO/COT prices (either recipe) [19-Jan-23 01:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I don't do too much on the COT side of things. I'm not sure which OVE recipe is best. I assumed it's the 1 COT + 10 PG => 30 OVE. And that PG would be pretty cheap and plentiful [19-Jan-23 01:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Manufacturing for the BMPs and WPLs is probably best done on Heph [19-Jan-23 01:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, that's more like base 4 territory [19-Jan-23 01:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 you caaaaaaaan mix that stuff in with other bases, but you'll probably want to move away from that so you can stack up your experts for more efficiency, and to match the COGC [19-Jan-23 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which probably makes sense for OVE, you won't need a whole base making them. They add up quick even on the CX. [19-Jan-23 02:01 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, that's the greater concern, so I'd look to diversify into chem/manu after I feel accomplished in the lower consumables [19-Jan-23 02:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 It looks like your 7 day trial in OOG is just about finished, so I might think about sponsoring an FP base on Norwick for you, if you're interested. I'll have to figure out some details [19-Jan-23 02:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 sure! I think allocater sent me some starting fund for Harmonia expansion too? I've made like 200k profit just shipping goods around over the last two weeks [19-Jan-23 02:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 but that's barely a dent in starting up a base from scratch [19-Jan-23 02:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cool. Roughly what I'm thinking is... I'll send you the money for a base like this: [19-Jan-23 02:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-01-19_14-04-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-01-19_14-04-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/B6-gqOKAxLJctPscu8BrSjI4HebVdR-L0tV7BxTPch8/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-01-19_14-04-11.png [19-Jan-23 02:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 wow okay [19-Jan-23 02:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 will need to spin up a lot more FRM/RIG to cover that [19-Jan-23 02:06 PM] churavis#0000 There are people you can buy H2O from on Ant, save your land for more farm [19-Jan-23 02:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Probably sell you the MUS/NUT/MAI, maybe HER. At least to keep you started. Then I'll buy the RAT/FIM for 1 AIC until the costs are mostly covered. Then you're free to enjoy the base ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Jan-23 02:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 good point, then it's a matter of shipping [19-Jan-23 02:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Estimate there is that it pays for itself in 6 days so you won't be tied in for too long [19-Jan-23 02:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah, that works for me [19-Jan-23 02:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll work it out with real numbers tonight or tomorrow {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช [19-Jan-23 08:23 PM] martin1194#0000 I think I was quiet in this server. But I had keep update news to yuen. I also update some news to here. My first ANT base is up and it is in Deimos. But it is empty cuz I forgot to bring some RAT and DW into base to have a basic setup. [19-Jan-23 08:26 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can publish a small number of ads. [19-Jan-23 08:27 PM] yuen8241#0000 As long as the quantity of RAT and DW is small, I can easily provide it to you. [19-Jan-23 08:37 PM] martin1194#0000 good. then, i can produce stuff at Deimos. [19-Jan-23 10:23 PM] xenoxerarch#0000 Hey guys, just wanted to give y'all a fair update. I'm probably quitting PU for the time being, as I've gotten slapped by a bunch of shit in RL and can't justify spending money or time on gaming right now. Its just been one of those everything-happens-in-threes fuck-you weeks. Our dog got sick and died, roof caved in after a bad storm, and had to borrow money to pay for my mother's emergency surgery. Just turned my laptop on for the first time in around 2 days and felt you guys deserve a memo on why I've been MIA and will likely continue to be. I'm exhausted and am going to bed now. Cheers folks. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (10) ๐Ÿซ‚ (4) ๐Ÿ–– [19-Jan-23 10:37 PM] yuen8241#0000 I sympathize with you very much. I hope your RL will get better. [19-Jan-23 10:38 PM] dehzhas#0000 My thoughts go out to you, hope things get better. Don't feel any pressure from our side. [20-Jan-23 11:44 AM] hernanduer#0000 woo, I'm official now {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (10) [20-Jan-23 11:57 AM] Deleted User#0000 Congrats and welcome! Have fun and make profit! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [20-Jan-23 12:53 PM] gladeowl#0000 Crossed 1Mil! ๐ŸŽ‰ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066068090087034880/image.png?ex=681514c7&is=6813c347&hm=a754a85035c9ecaffc2e8ec0482806569fcbadb13220bb17ab2bed25caee5ec7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฐ (2) ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [20-Jan-23 12:55 PM] churavis#0000 That means you're not expanding fast enough, you've got to utilize your capital faster and not just let it sit there doing nothing. {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) [20-Jan-23 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 it's probably best just to send that idle capital to me ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Jan-23 12:52 AM] dehzhas#0000 It never ceases to amaze me how fast I can spend money ๐Ÿคฃ [21-Jan-23 01:25 AM] martin1194#0000 I fixed price tab in excel [21-Jan-23 01:25 AM] martin1194#0000 it's work now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Jan-23 03:57 AM] martin1194#0000 I will trying to provide RAT at ANT after 31 JAN 2023. need some time to tranport it and build up a base. [21-Jan-23 08:12 AM] allocater#0000 good times ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066359557217063014/image.png?ex=6814d2ba&is=6813813a&hm=e07deebced2689f677dbbb320e0ffb65e61dee4e12e03e44e6ce6789b194e6f2& [21-Jan-23 08:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 800 for a TCL?๐Ÿคฉ [21-Jan-23 12:01 PM] allocater#0000 custom categories, wuhuu! ๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066417318575472710/image.png?ex=68150885&is=6813b705&hm=00e6ff1b0e23baf7e1eed000e5c98aca749b82195ccd9befca26ada94ef4a06a& [21-Jan-23 12:11 PM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066419864245391410/image.png?ex=68150ae4&is=6813b964&hm=6031aa01ba1ed4e62b765c593ea932442c05501c6a66451e5d753c733fdde552& [21-Jan-23 06:58 PM] dehzhas#0000 I'm loving the custom sorting [21-Jan-23 08:53 PM] exeler#0000 Oh, is this a new update? [21-Jan-23 09:41 PM] jackinabox86#0000 PMMG [22-Jan-23 04:06 AM] habix3956#0000 hopefully he delivers ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066660094659543040/image.png?ex=68149920&is=681347a0&hm=548f7c135bf4c87631baacf4f21c58687930936f4de6090a832c4fd96e1f2e88& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคž (2) [22-Jan-23 01:53 PM] martin1194#0000 Does anybody know how can I know the distance between each location if I am not flight is available? [22-Jan-23 01:54 PM] habix3956#0000 I think you can simulate the flight in blueprints [22-Jan-23 01:55 PM] allocater#0000 for distance you can check https://prun.plexucra.de/map/ but it's not the flight time [22-Jan-23 01:56 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 You can check if you have a blueprint available for your ship {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1066808714897674271/image.png?ex=68152389&is=6813d209&hm=352592384932aaf951beac5af1c9e7808339591d165f468b4dceab6a242d6097& [22-Jan-23 02:03 PM] martin1194#0000 Thanks. I think blueprint simulate is work well for me but I don't know this function before. The website seems can't find distance if in the same solar system. [22-Jan-23 02:37 PM] churavis#0000 Just use BLU and test whichever design your ship is with the values you want. There is a little bit of variance since planets move and that affects the timing by a little bit for intersystem travel but a lot for intrasystem puddle jumps between planets [22-Jan-23 03:34 PM] martin1194#0000 I still beginning and also have one type of ship. Design ship maybe not my first aim. I just calculate the fuel consumption to make sure I will not lose money when transportation. [22-Jan-23 03:35 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The ship blueprint in my screenshot is the starter ship, you can create a blueprint even if you have no intention on building it. [22-Jan-23 11:38 PM] dehzhas#0000 My ship is headed to QJ-382g for AMM. Looking for 500, who has some? [22-Jan-23 11:44 PM] churavis#0000 That would probably belong on the outer-rim channel, which is for all things related to planets without their own channel [22-Jan-23 11:46 PM] dehzhas#0000 Good point [23-Jan-23 12:42 PM] martin1194#0000 I don't know that GRN, VEG, or BEA are useful here. which agricultural product do u guys want me to provide in the future? Seems providing agricultural products is a good idea for me. [23-Jan-23 01:00 PM] allocater#0000 you can check the best crops here: https://universallogistics.app/building/FRM GRN HCP are good atm [23-Jan-23 01:01 PM] churavis#0000 Don't grow crops on Deimos [23-Jan-23 01:22 PM] martin1194#0000 Thanks for hint. But crops are from promitor(my first base) [23-Jan-23 01:23 PM] martin1194#0000 Deimos is my thrid base, also it is the first base in ANT. :goodluck: [23-Jan-23 01:26 PM] martin1194#0000 But what kind of agricultural items in corp need more? Then, I will not only import from the corp. I can provide something good with my first base advantage. [23-Jan-23 01:28 PM] allocater#0000 there is some debate between GRN and MAI but both are always needed [23-Jan-23 01:34 PM] martin1194#0000 cool. I focus on GRN and MAI [23-Jan-23 10:57 PM] martin1194#0000 excel bug fixed in price tag - some player name haven't show before. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [24-Jan-23 11:36 PM] dehzhas#0000 If I had the ability to name a planet (not saying I do, but if I did) would there be any interesting ones to name left in ANT space? [25-Jan-23 07:55 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Good morning everyone, I have some sad news to inform you all of - my PRO license is up in 6 days and I have made the decision not to renew this time. I am moving away from work-from-home and my interest in the game isn't what it used to be ๐Ÿ˜ญ so I'll be taking a step away from PrUn soon. That being said, if they ever reset the universe I'll be looking to find you guys and dive back in! I'll use the next 6 days to start winding down my operations but I will continue to grab fuel ads for the next month or so (on Nike) because that shouldn't be a problem with a BASIC license. Although the fuel producers of the group may want to reconvene on how to fill my absence after that - and if the gas station approach is even sustainable? We seem to struggle to keep up with corp demand as it is (I haven't sold a single SF/FF on the market in months lol). Thank you to all of you for making my time playing this game so great! I really think we've managed to put together a very solid group of players and we've worked together to accomplish some awesome things throughout Antares space. I wish you all the best and good health going forward! Cheers! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (12) ๐Ÿซ‚ (5) hugplz (4) [25-Jan-23 07:58 AM] yuen8241#0000 It is a great loss for us to lose you, which is really a pity. [25-Jan-23 10:03 AM] Deleted User#0000 Really sorry to hear of it, buddy. You're the one that I had the most interactions in the corporation, and were the one that I most identified with the corp identity. As I said before, your fuel was the life-blood of the organization! Anyway, good luck with your future endeavors. Hope that you will stay in touch and let me know what you are next playing. You (or anyone else here really) can friend-me on steam if you have an account there. [25-Jan-23 11:05 AM] jackinabox86#0000 yeah, this is a bummer. He recruited me as I'm sure he did most of you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [25-Jan-23 11:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 Sorry to see you go- but I know OOG is gonna rock the next universe, I'm looking forward to it ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-Jan-23 02:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's looking like we are getting a greater and greater need for He3 [25-Jan-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 maybe we should get a colonization on IY-206 i? [25-Jan-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 Cortez would be a good alternative too for TS processing, but farther away and just as expensive to build on, if not more [25-Jan-23 02:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 or you can go Avalon, also far away and less efficient than Cortez, but way cheaper to build [25-Jan-23 02:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd rather do IY-206 myself [25-Jan-23 07:39 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Can you let me know what you need and Iโ€™ll sponsor the base? Presumably we can buy anything you output at a fair price [25-Jan-23 07:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd love to, I want to pay back a bit of the start @archielvahr gave me first before getting obliged to another. Maybe in a week or so. [25-Jan-23 08:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 Don't let me stop you from taking a second loan ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jan-23 08:34 PM] gladeowl#0000 @sir_deplorable is prepping for a HE3 base as well. Between you and him, the shortage should be sorted. [25-Jan-23 08:46 PM] yuen8241#0000 The most important thing is that you should have a VCB to transport HE3. [25-Jan-23 09:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 Oh well if you say so ๐Ÿ˜… [25-Jan-23 10:34 PM] gladeowl#0000 He's gonna get his money anyway. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [25-Jan-23 10:34 PM] gladeowl#0000 https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-4462663 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/the-god-father-marlon-brando-vito-corleone-talk-to-me-gif-4462663 make you an offer https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/dggiXzYf7yXIxcjhJcmeq722_4ebJW-0EE_Zv-lrMtA/https/media.tenor.com/Ezwsc3bTZAgAAAAD/the-god-father-marlon-brando.png [26-Jan-23 02:56 AM] thummper#0000 if somebody requests cancellation of a shipping contract after it has been provisioned do they keep the cargo? [26-Jan-23 03:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 yes {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข [26-Jan-23 03:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 Generally speaking, don't entrust valuables to people you don't know. [26-Jan-23 03:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 Pirate happens from time to time in this game. [26-Jan-23 07:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 Nine out of seventeen, so now I belong to ANT again. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068156033714901042/image.png?ex=6814c453&is=681372d3&hm=e9575db87e3a45f8f76d9dcee2bada2758b63bd024f2bf1f80ced20641f9dc06& [26-Jan-23 07:46 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Yay, thx for the corp invite. ๐Ÿ˜€ And thank you for all your help and support so far!! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (7) [26-Jan-23 08:48 AM] churavis#0000 The provisioned foods unspool wherever they are of they haven't been picked up then you'll keep them. If they have been picked up then message the player and see if they'll do a refund contract to get back the goods and money. Make it clear you'll report them otherwise. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฟ [26-Jan-23 08:54 AM] thummper#0000 ye it was a new player that got confused, they gave the goods back so it's all fine now (: {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [26-Jan-23 11:39 AM] _bojidar#0000 any1 can make some 10-20xTSH? [28-Jan-23 01:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068797771903152198/image.png?ex=68151fbe&is=6813ce3e&hm=4881dfbd13a187e1e656b0a54d5cfd8edd3c254e559917b0415727e058a88741& [28-Jan-23 01:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that this guy has a lot of AIC, but his CIS and ICA are not enough. [28-Jan-23 01:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 It is estimated that he earned a lot of AIC from phobos' SE. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [28-Jan-23 02:32 AM] allocater#0000 should we increase phobos electronics engineer taxes to max to tax EDC bases? There will be collateral damage, but other industries can raise their prices to keep profits the same. [28-Jan-23 02:33 AM] churavis#0000 I've been considering that very thing and the election did just barely end [28-Jan-23 02:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068811453685047326/image.png?ex=68152c7c&is=6813dafc&hm=ac3fc9380bd2e9d4f1b458e7daa58a7f7ff24897c70782086cb78f9c7783d262& [28-Jan-23 02:35 AM] churavis#0000 You can only go to zero outside of official faction space, antares has minimum fee rates [28-Jan-23 02:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 I mean, the tax rate of engineers in malahat is not high, so they can go to malahat. [28-Jan-23 02:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 But at least it relieves phobos' pressure. [28-Jan-23 02:37 AM] churavis#0000 I get the feeling that EDC farmers have gone to every planet with ENG or SCI [28-Jan-23 02:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068812085938618408/image.png?ex=68152d12&is=6813db92&hm=f857cd5cb8065eeb11c8c09b74871dd1a745fb1a80aa9400cc70c35eca2e6af4& [28-Jan-23 02:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's possible. Let me calculate. [28-Jan-23 02:38 AM] balbar#0000 holy carp, thats a lot of open engi jobs๐Ÿ˜ฑ [28-Jan-23 02:38 AM] allocater#0000 we should at least have the highest eng electronics tax rate of all edc planets to incentive them to other planets and leverage the better position of phobos. [28-Jan-23 02:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 There is something wrong with the design of this game. [28-Jan-23 02:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068812972597714954/image.png?ex=68148526&is=681333a6&hm=ed53c65f644ef5ee462dd18a84d046574db73d48bd3c2fd5dc0848ddc424351e& [28-Jan-23 02:41 AM] allocater#0000 yeah, even 1000 tax will only cut ~10% of EDC profits [28-Jan-23 02:42 AM] yuen8241#0000 If I transform into EDC economy, 20 EDC farms will bring me at least 3.6M income every day. [28-Jan-23 02:42 AM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068813309412921354/image.png?ex=68148576&is=681333f6&hm=66f16304f79f14820865a2a55139ea7b05b3be941650c1a6336cf93fc3327072& [28-Jan-23 02:43 AM] allocater#0000 would be: Consumption: 5k, Capex: 500, Taxes 1k [28-Jan-23 02:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 But it will cost me 200M . [28-Jan-23 02:43 AM] churavis#0000 Non electronics planets with not enough ENG/SCI should max out their electronics taxes {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [28-Jan-23 02:43 AM] balbar#0000 i guess there is no wrong way to play, but this looks...boring [28-Jan-23 02:44 AM] churavis#0000 That's how we got that water troll [28-Jan-23 02:44 AM] allocater#0000 I doubt there are SE on any random planets, but if we find them, we should tax them away ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-23 02:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 In this way, Corp with enough SE can destroy the cx economy of the other side. [28-Jan-23 02:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I've been doing this for a long time at nike. [28-Jan-23 02:45 AM] allocater#0000 I am also thinking of sponsoring EDC bases and use the profits to sabotage EDC profitability ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-23 02:45 AM] churavis#0000 It's MM, how would you do that? [28-Jan-23 02:45 AM] allocater#0000 Moria EDC profit is already down to 14k [28-Jan-23 02:46 AM] allocater#0000 pump all money into R-fabs and FIM [28-Jan-23 02:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, if we have enough SE, we can destroy the troll's economy by buying all SE related products on cx. [28-Jan-23 02:46 AM] allocater#0000 and we are paying taxes to ourselves so at least we have a 10% advantage ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [28-Jan-23 02:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 Considering that we are a huge Corp, we can produce enough Rfabs and FIM ourselves. We can buy up the inventory on cx and make the troll unprofitable. [28-Jan-23 02:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 We can develop one or two SE planets that we control ourselves, let everyone in Corp use the engineer population on them, and then collect the highest tax. [28-Jan-23 02:49 AM] churavis#0000 EDC doesn't have any inputs and Rfabs and FIM are too general and high velocity for us to affect [28-Jan-23 02:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 Buy all the basic raw materials, such as CL, DDT and EPO. Trolls rarely produce these themselves. [28-Jan-23 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 Just like this troll who keeps buying water, he has no construction base and consumable base, and relies entirely on cx to obtain Rfabs and FIM. If there are not enough raw materials in the market, some compound players or Corp will give priority to digesting these internally, which will lead to a shortage of supply in the market. [28-Jan-23 02:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 The recent price increase of FIM\DDT\CL is estimated to be due to the recent explosive population growth of engineers in malahat. [28-Jan-23 08:01 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I donโ€™t think FIM would actually be that hard to take over [28-Jan-23 08:01 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Itโ€™s a very time consuming chain [28-Jan-23 08:01 AM] jackinabox86#0000 And youโ€™d control HER as well [28-Jan-23 10:10 AM] yjhasaday#0000 So I just realized in the in-game corp channel that I (and @allocater) was only 2 days short of a full year with OOG when I posted my good-bye message ๐Ÿ˜… - what are the odds! Thank you all once again for making it a great year ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} โค๏ธ (6) [28-Jan-23 10:10 AM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1068926000949362768/image.png?ex=6814ee6a&is=68139cea&hm=db8368f970e2296281931c50b40111c3242890f5fb36f13ea973bf925af6a4b2& [28-Jan-23 10:12 AM] balbar#0000 the odds aren't that bad, considering you are quitting because your PRO license runs out ๐Ÿ˜‰ those tend to last some integer amount of month. ๐Ÿค“ [28-Jan-23 10:13 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Ahhhh, hadn't thought of that - but you are 100% right lol! [28-Jan-23 10:19 AM] yjhasaday#0000 That welcome message above from @megasaberexe is for @rune_242 joining - there's also a welcome from @domicius a bit further up too! So congrats on longer than a year with OOG to those three as well ๐ŸŽ‰ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (9) ๐ŸŽ‚ (6) [29-Jan-23 08:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, FIM could be controlled somewhat via controlling DDT and HER, and not dumping FIM on the market [29-Jan-23 08:38 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have bought DDT and CL in large quantities from the market for a long time. These EDC farmers generally do not produce DDT, HER and FIM. [29-Jan-23 08:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 Therefore, as long as we go to the electronics planet to build a large number of SE and compete with them for the engineer population, and do not sell FIM, DDT, HER and CL to the outside , these SE farmers will not be able to maintain. [29-Jan-23 08:41 PM] yuen8241#0000 I may be the person who has the most SE among us, but I can make a surplus of these things besides CL. [30-Jan-23 11:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 I don't really have any big PRUN projects planned, so messing aroudn with the FIM market is kind of appealing to me. I've only operated in ANT space so far.... but I can see that galaxy-wide, the supply of DDT/HER/FIM isn't that high. [30-Jan-23 11:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1069668958371852408/image.png?ex=6814ff59&is=6813add9&hm=7de55fe5e6990ef21ac7d7123440b73f230a4ff37d8ef93b06e5ac9a860d864e& [30-Jan-23 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 Yes, I have placed requests everywhere, feel free to help me out {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Jan-23 11:26 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Hey all, I left the corp in game because we received a dividend and I felt like it was pointless for me to still be collecting a share. I'll still fill SF orders on Nike for another week or so - my license expires tomorrow {Reactions} โค๏ธ (15) [01-Feb-23 02:23 AM] evov#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (7) [01-Feb-23 02:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 @evovWelcome to OOG's server๏ผYou can check the contents of welcome Channel and spreadsheets. [01-Feb-23 02:28 AM] evov#0000 Hi hi [01-Feb-23 02:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 If it is convenient, you can briefly introduce your main product types and ways of playing, so that everyone can get to know you quickly.๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Feb-23 02:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can see the industry type and product type of the main members of the Corp on the spreadsheet. [01-Feb-23 02:37 AM] evov#0000 I'm not sure if I have a "main" product type at the moment to be honest. But happy to answer any specific questions people might have. [01-Feb-23 02:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 Do you mainly sell consumables or metallurgical and chemical products? [01-Feb-23 02:39 AM] yuen8241#0000 We have a number of consumables suppliers and a shipbuilding industry chain, and we also produce a lot of fabs. [01-Feb-23 02:39 AM] evov#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1070262076867625020/currentBases.jpg?ex=681484bb&is=6813333b&hm=f79aa2a3095598fd2bbd2aa698607ac8a4cad0dc4904eea252177261ae36c183& [01-Feb-23 02:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that your main focus is on HRT, and you mainly get AL and chemical products from ANT. [01-Feb-23 02:40 AM] rune_242#0000 oh wow [01-Feb-23 02:40 AM] evov#0000 I produce most consumables. (all but 3 up to the Engineer level ) Volume doesn't really warrant spending time on sci consumables from my perspective at this time. [01-Feb-23 02:41 AM] yuen8241#0000 Tree and I both have bases in HRT, and I produce ALE, GIN and VG in avalon. [01-Feb-23 02:42 AM] evov#0000 Yea, I'm mostly centered around HRT space. I've only just started moving into ANT space, and am in the process of developing a few new bases. Directionally, in ANT space, I want to make R/A fabs, and ship engines. Though it will take some time to build up this capacity. [01-Feb-23 02:42 AM] rune_242#0000 do you have LABS's or PP3's/PP4's? [01-Feb-23 02:43 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'm similar to you. I can also produce most consumables, and I've started shipbuilding and producing Afabs. [01-Feb-23 02:44 AM] evov#0000 I have 2 pp3's on OF-375c .. but the population development there is not suitable for pp4's. Tech's there are like.. 18/80. Still proffitable to make Rfabs, but doesn't make sense to develop that base any further. [01-Feb-23 02:45 AM] evov#0000 Basically... population restrictions around the HRT area is the main reason I'm looking to set up bases on some of the better developed ANT planets. [01-Feb-23 02:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 HRT is suitable for consumables and some low-end industries, but if you want to do something more advanced, you need to go to ANT or MOR. [01-Feb-23 02:46 AM] evov#0000 I have 4 labs on helion prime. I'm still undecided on where/how to get more labs developed... though I know I'll need some. [01-Feb-23 02:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 There are enough places on ANT's planet, so welcome to ANT. [01-Feb-23 02:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can go to elon, where I just invested in an ART, and this planet is now managed by us. [01-Feb-23 02:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 I just hired all the unemployed technicians in elon, and there is still a gap. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1070264652770070558/image.png?ex=68148721&is=681335a1&hm=eeb50ba9ab036f48fcc9a81ae3b32f805185e1a9fe7a07e12c742f8ec978e306& [01-Feb-23 02:49 AM] evov#0000 Yea... that's one of the options I've thought about. But, undecided. I'm kinda maxed out on permits at the moment... next one will cost me around 4mil... so I'm trying to make do with what I've got. So any new bases means I need to start cutting back on Prom/Avalon/Novahonshu ... and while it probably makes sense to do so... I don't really want to do it until it becomes essential. [01-Feb-23 02:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 Nova is a manufacturing planet, right๏ผŸ [01-Feb-23 02:50 AM] evov#0000 Yes [01-Feb-23 02:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can go to heph, which is also a manufacturing planet. [01-Feb-23 02:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 So you can save a permit. [01-Feb-23 02:50 AM] evov#0000 I've already got the heph base founded.. just haven't built there yet. [01-Feb-23 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1070265022560870410/image.png?ex=68148779&is=681335f9&hm=30fec0412d801bf28d1e06583247207a26df2ea6826ecea1ea5eae986ff82d43& [01-Feb-23 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 According to my experience, two manufacturing planets are enough. [01-Feb-23 02:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 My two manufacturing bases are heph and katoa. [01-Feb-23 02:52 AM] evov#0000 Of the 3... the 2nd/3rd permits on prom are my least proffitable. So that makes the most sense to cut. But again... not a bridge I need to cross right now since I've got 3 empty planets with a CM on it and nothing else. So that's where my resoruces/focus will be ( Heph/Phobos/Nike) [01-Feb-23 02:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can replace it slowly, just like what I'm doing. [01-Feb-23 02:53 AM] evov#0000 While Deimos isn't technically empty, I've just got extractors/collectors on there as placeholders. [01-Feb-23 02:53 AM] evov#0000 So there's lots of things to do before I need to think about cutting another permit out of existing bases. [01-Feb-23 02:53 AM] yuen8241#0000 When the production capacity of the new base is established, you can dismantle some building saving permits of the old base. [01-Feb-23 02:54 AM] evov#0000 Maybe. Again... I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. [01-Feb-23 02:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 I now have 21 permit and 17 bases, and I will only spend extra licenses on the industrial core planet. [01-Feb-23 02:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 For me, it's phobos and Heph, the twins in CX system. [01-Feb-23 02:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 The combination of promitor and avalon is also good, but the output value of agriculture is still slightly lower, which is more suitable for the early stage. [01-Feb-23 02:59 AM] evov#0000 Yea, I suspect that the move will be to drop a permit on prom and get a chem base on elon. But I'll have a closer look when I get to that point. [01-Feb-23 03:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 ANT also has a food industry planet, although the population quality is not as good as avalon. [01-Feb-23 03:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you have enough LCB, transportation is not a problem. [01-Feb-23 03:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 Ant's agriculture and water are very poor, and HRT is too strong in this respect. [01-Feb-23 03:02 AM] evov#0000 I have to lean heavily on shipping contracts as it is. So logistics is a tight spot for me. I have 2x 3k1k ships (upgraded from the starting ships) and 1 STL only 500/500 ship in HRT (since I have 4 bases in that system) [01-Feb-23 03:03 AM] yuen8241#0000 My base is located in Ant \ Ben \ HRT, and I occasionally go to MOR, so I have 6 LCBs, 2 WCBs and 3 STL. [01-Feb-23 03:03 AM] evov#0000 Well if anyone wants to sell me a ship, I'm down for it haha. [01-Feb-23 03:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'm probably the person with the largest number of ships and the widest base distribution in Corp, and most of the others are concentrated in Ant. [01-Feb-23 03:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you join corp, you can make a reservation with Allocator. [01-Feb-23 03:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you have enough ships, you don't need to invest three permits in a base to reduce the transportation pressure. [01-Feb-23 03:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 This is especially important considering that your base is cross-regional. [01-Feb-23 03:09 AM] evov#0000 I'm hopeful, that I can lean on shipping contracts to do a decent amount of the heavy lifting, and have 1 ship in each region to pick up the slack... until I can get another ship. [01-Feb-23 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 I haven't used the transportation contract for a long time, especially considering the piracy problem. [01-Feb-23 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 Enough ships and enough consumables \ raw material reserves will make your operation very easy. [01-Feb-23 03:14 AM] evov#0000 If there were ships on the CX... I'd have more ๐Ÿ™‚ But I'll make do with what I've got until I can find one. [01-Feb-23 04:40 PM] jackinabox86#0000 we produce a 2k/2k ship roughly every 3 days. The wait is not long to get one [01-Feb-23 06:08 PM] churavis#0000 Is anyone producing RCO? [01-Feb-23 11:38 PM] exeler#0000 I do a small amount on Harmonia. I'm gonna be adding more HYF soon so I can probably increase production if there's demand for it. [01-Feb-23 11:38 PM] churavis#0000 I demand it [01-Feb-23 11:41 PM] exeler#0000 How much? Is this on a scale I could manage reasonably on the side, or would this require significant dedicated resources? I have plans for most of the output of my Harmonia base at 500/500 so I don't want to give any false hope ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Feb-23 11:41 PM] churavis#0000 Probably more than you could produce [01-Feb-23 11:43 PM] churavis#0000 There are just so many consumables that need it. OVE, PWO, EXO, MED, SUN etc [01-Feb-23 11:43 PM] churavis#0000 The more I get the more consumables I can provide to the corp [01-Feb-23 11:45 PM] evov#0000 Sounds awesome. Can you msg me a spec list of the ship and a price? [02-Feb-23 01:06 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 About a week ago I made a screen of people who had recently joined the beginner planets in ANT space, 1/3 pro and 10/14 non-pro players quit. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1070601051612381216/image.png?ex=681517ad&is=6813c62d&hm=6fbe8993e0d0759662b77d368e8533ad43c70b7ab28c46cddfda993d291267ea& [02-Feb-23 04:31 AM] domicius#0000 I guess there's a high churn. It's to be expected. The early days are difficult and relatively boring [02-Feb-23 04:32 AM] domicius#0000 And the learning curve very steep [02-Feb-23 07:12 AM] yuen8241#0000 It doesn't make money to produce RCO. So I buy it all from cx [02-Feb-23 09:09 AM] allocater#0000 dito, my 600 request gets trickled RCO for 2 months now ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Feb-23 02:57 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Look at the ship status channel [02-Feb-23 03:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 @yuen8241 what's your source of LES? [02-Feb-23 06:30 PM] yuen8241#0000 I bought it from cx, which is my stock and not for sale. [02-Feb-23 06:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can provide LES on WU-882H with advanced notice, just let me know how much, and I'll let you know when [02-Feb-23 06:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I appear to have an incredible amount of F there right now ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [02-Feb-23 10:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh okay, yeah just playing around with future builds and wanted to see how it was sourced [02-Feb-23 11:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was looking at WR-681b instead to source TAI and LES at the same time [02-Feb-23 11:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 What are you aiming to produce? [02-Feb-23 11:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 High end consumables is the target I think [02-Feb-23 11:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 Just playing around with numbers for future stuff, nothing soon [03-Feb-23 05:16 AM] evov#0000 Just wanted to thank everyone for the introduction to your corp. I don't think it's a good fit for me at this time. I'll be expanding bases in this area, so if there's anything that people want to buy/sell with me, feel free to send a msg. Have a great weekend all. [03-Feb-23 05:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 Thank you for coming! I hope you have a good time in ANT. [03-Feb-23 07:54 AM] domicius#0000 Check the spreadsheet for an idea of what we buy sell. You'll soon figure out what we all make anyway, and always ask for help if you need it! [03-Feb-23 07:45 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 What is worthwhile buying in Moria so that I can export it back and convert NCC to AIC? [03-Feb-23 08:52 PM] yuen8241#0000 Very few, so I don't even go there to sell things. [04-Feb-23 01:56 AM] allocater#0000 I have CBL at moria, but it's better to sell it at Hortus, ICA is the most valuable [04-Feb-23 03:18 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 I got 550k of cheap BDE from Moria to sell at Hortus which is at the MM, then I will buy 10k RATs I suppose and send a ship to get them [04-Feb-23 07:51 AM] churavis#0000 ANT BDE is also at the MM [04-Feb-23 05:20 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Wasn't as bad last night and I figured it would be easier to ship from Moria to Hortus rather than Moria to Antares [05-Feb-23 08:13 PM] martin1194#0000 looking for DDT [05-Feb-23 08:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 80 DDT @ 1500/u [05-Feb-23 08:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Send a contract for however much you want [05-Feb-23 08:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh, it's on ANT [05-Feb-23 09:33 PM] martin1194#0000 50 DDT [05-Feb-23 09:35 PM] martin1194#0000 thanks, i sent a contract [05-Feb-23 10:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Filled! thanks! [06-Feb-23 03:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 Continuous loss๐Ÿคฃ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1072090928166211624/image.png?ex=6814947b&is=681342fb&hm=fd3b3e4ff737bebdc2a4279163248543ca003c2520005c9d711dc89732fd5bac& [06-Feb-23 03:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 Stability has fallen to C. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1072092840890478592/image.png?ex=68149643&is=681344c3&hm=fd9f1a7ed4fa8db62770b46966d50935c5b46459f6ea049c773282b7f912ee24& [06-Feb-23 07:38 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1072149319848824852/image.png?ex=6814cadd&is=6813795d&hm=e2a93a24567cf0690dda9b899eb3c2140d1e1c05bdafaa917e6fc43eac4b025c& [06-Feb-23 07:38 AM] rune_242#0000 this must be wrong...right? [06-Feb-23 07:40 AM] gladeowl#0000 Have you been buying or selling Holy Fuel? [06-Feb-23 07:40 AM] rune_242#0000 ahhhhh [06-Feb-23 07:41 AM] rune_242#0000 so that's why Vatican city is so rich๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [07-Feb-23 08:06 AM] syqel#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (8) [07-Feb-23 08:43 AM] thummper#0000 Are there any tools that tell me what my production costs are without me having to do any maths? [07-Feb-23 08:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I cann't believe you don't know PRUNER [07-Feb-23 08:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 @syqel Welcome! You can check the welcome channel and get familiar with various forms. [07-Feb-23 08:59 AM] thummper#0000 I still have to do math though right? Like (workforce cost + repair cost) / units of output [07-Feb-23 09:00 AM] thummper#0000 It doesn't directly tell me what my cost per unit is somewhere? [07-Feb-23 11:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 It tells you the profit per unit at a price you specify. You can work that number down until your base has 0 net profit [07-Feb-23 11:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 Set up a base and set a price for an output. Here's an F extracting base: [07-Feb-23 11:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-15.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-15.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_X1Va7-aJyeXTChDFpEONNL6Mo_Th4nk1uXHctOWA_g/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-15.png [07-Feb-23 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 So there's the workforce cost, with their upkeep items [07-Feb-23 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Repair costs are over here: [07-Feb-23 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-49.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-49.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zjEADCchmiKgbUWfYYjsG-Tz1lE-Dk0iGpI1QeBYqOs/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/PRUNner_2023-02-07_11-45-49.png [07-Feb-23 11:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 I made a sheet once that calculated the "zero profit costs" of everything in the game. It was an interesting exercise but ultimately the numbers didn't make much sense. Or have a practical use [07-Feb-23 07:48 PM] yuen8241#0000 This thing doesn't need raw materials, so it's produced really fast. I haven't picked it up for a long time.๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1072695421211783188/image.png?ex=6814cd36&is=68137bb6&hm=d2c4c278424db14d26218c725d190897b884610fe902ddb81cc9727f91100cbf& [07-Feb-23 07:58 PM] yuen8241#0000 If I didn't have other industries, it would be really boring to make money from this.๐Ÿ˜… [07-Feb-23 07:59 PM] churavis#0000 The upcoming Phobos 4d Arcade takes EDC as upkeep if you want to save some for that [07-Feb-23 08:01 PM] yuen8241#0000 The cost of using HOG is lower. [07-Feb-23 08:01 PM] yuen8241#0000 My EDC farm is going to move to malahat, leaving phobos to other electronics industries. [07-Feb-23 08:03 PM] yuen8241#0000 Maybe I'll keep some SE in phobos to produce something like NN. [07-Feb-23 08:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 Malahat is like a piggy bank. I regularly transport some consumables there and bring EDC back as a foreign exchange reserve. [08-Feb-23 12:10 PM] allocater#0000 https://universallogistics.app/building/LAB has the breakeven points for all recipes {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฟ [08-Feb-23 08:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 @syqel Can you introduce yourself or ask some questions to Corp? We want to enhance mutual understanding. [08-Feb-23 08:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 Besides, did you check the spreadsheet? If you are interested in joining Corp, you can fill in your base information. [08-Feb-23 09:45 PM] syqel#0000 Hello๐Ÿ‘‹ So I started on Harmonia with farms and incinerators and made a bunch selling C - Added a base on Deimos when C price dropped to produce AL - started producing TI when I saw Yuen's decent request price I had the idea to become as independent as possible so I built some FP which I recently moved to Norwick - I also have some CHP I looked at the spreadsheet and will fill in my base info - I thought it was for corp members only I have lots of strategy questions, should I ask those in strategy channel? [08-Feb-23 09:47 PM] jackinabox86#0000 fire away! [08-Feb-23 09:59 PM] syqel#0000 I just noticed that Terrascape who has an offer for LHP on ANT is from OOG corp and since I don't want to step on toes and I was thinking of shifting to producing more STL and TI anyways I thought I'd demolish my HWP and HB3 and build more SME - what do you think? [08-Feb-23 10:02 PM] erklein#0000 I would say don't be afraid to step on toes. As far as SME, it's always great to have more production capacity especially in AL. It really depends on how much you want to link your supply chains to the corp as a whole, or how you want to play the game. [08-Feb-23 10:04 PM] syqel#0000 Isn't that the whole point of joining a corp? To take advantage of the benefits of linking your supply chains and to do what everyone is best at? [08-Feb-23 10:06 PM] erklein#0000 Mostly. But I think an important distinction is that we don't really run the corp as mandating that people produce and supply certain items to the corp. It should be that everyone is producing what they are because that's how they want to play [08-Feb-23 10:08 PM] syqel#0000 I'm all about not mandating but having someone who can direct and make good suggestions shows it's a good corp - besides, I'm finding BHP and LHP to not be as lucrative as I thougt so... Any suggestions? [08-Feb-23 10:09 PM] erklein#0000 Overall, if you want to build more SME then build more SME (it's always in demand). If you want to have a HWP, have a HWP [08-Feb-23 10:09 PM] erklein#0000 If you're looking for ways to contribue, then yes SME will be more beneficial (probably, I don't have a HWP to compare ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [08-Feb-23 10:10 PM] erklein#0000 I'm sure others can also offer a variety of advice [08-Feb-23 10:23 PM] syqel#0000 BHP and LHP produce quick - I'm having to shutter the HWP more & more - I'm going to build more SME but I'd like to find out if there's enough demand to keep the HWP around [08-Feb-23 10:24 PM] churavis#0000 Ask Allocater, he's the shipwright and can tell you if the corp needs more LHP/BHP production [08-Feb-23 10:55 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 He posted in the ship building channel that the bottleneck is LHP currently [08-Feb-23 11:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you can supply me with Ti steadily, it will also be a great help to the shipbuilding industry. [08-Feb-23 11:58 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have five ASM and one SKF to produce LCB and things like that. [09-Feb-23 12:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 If I can't get a stable supplier, I will put a permit into ANT2-B to make myself produce enough Ti. [09-Feb-23 12:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 I need about 40-50 Ti every day. [09-Feb-23 12:06 AM] exeler#0000 I think this has a decent bit to do with the CX soaking up 80% of my output and multiple orders for AHP [09-Feb-23 12:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 I also have more than 100 LHP bought from exeler.๐Ÿ˜† [09-Feb-23 12:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Now LCB is also the bottleneck of shipbuilding!๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Feb-23 12:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 My ASM has been producing AST at full capacity, about 75 a day. [09-Feb-23 12:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1073123865464676422/image.png?ex=68150abb&is=6813b93b&hm=5e3a37cdc5699c4cd6ef9efb52f7dc27497ac3ee3ca53d5366503ac4417546a9& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1073123865686982707/image.png?ex=68150abb&is=6813b93b&hm=30840eaa684e8a02dbb081246b260d0b5e5c41b94d491b2ab0c081a2b018a79a& [09-Feb-23 01:43 AM] allocater#0000 yes, shipbuilding needs 220 LHP per week, but the market is also eating some up, so not sure if Exeler can supply both. Looks more profitable than SME to me: https://universallogistics.app/building/HWP if you can expect to sell half LHP at market 2.5-3k? and the other half at the bottom price of 1.9k [09-Feb-23 01:44 AM] allocater#0000 BHP is even more profitable [09-Feb-23 01:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 You are seducing my Ti supplier.๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [09-Feb-23 08:41 AM] syqel#0000 If I can get a WCB for the ore I need I can start ramping up TI production - should I just buy the one on ANT? Sounds like I should keep the HWP [09-Feb-23 11:11 AM] rune_242#0000 are there more chemistry planets outside griff and elon? [09-Feb-23 11:11 AM] rune_242#0000 in antares space๐Ÿ˜… [09-Feb-23 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ant 2D [09-Feb-23 12:23 PM] allocater#0000 Ant 1b ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Feb-23 12:59 PM] churavis#0000 ??? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1073317301132201984/Screenshot_20230209-1156432.png?ex=68151621&is=6813c4a1&hm=215c85406c8c376a0ea0207a144c03a4d4c3b41f8c644d5178a12eca8a574be7& [09-Feb-23 01:00 PM] gladeowl#0000 https://tenor.com/view/sell-trading-golden-girls-stock-market-broker-gif-20143995 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/sell-trading-golden-girls-stock-market-broker-gif-20143995 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6djuKVlTDSz_dWpMVcokFPHSlgFwiGEh4boPFhVnRH8/https/media.tenor.com/1NNaS3qRvEcAAAAD/sell-trading.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐Ÿ˜‚ [09-Feb-23 01:57 PM] rune_242#0000 does anybody want to help make a chemistry planet with technicians? [09-Feb-23 01:58 PM] rune_242#0000 I'll make the fabs [09-Feb-23 01:58 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Ant 2D and ANT 1B have techs [09-Feb-23 01:59 PM] rune_242#0000 appareantly I'm blind๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Feb-23 03:15 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The game performs so much better on Chrome [09-Feb-23 03:15 PM] churavis#0000 Blasphemy! [09-Feb-23 03:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I prefer Firefox but it's faster, doesn't reconnect as often, and doesn't keep taking as much memory as possible on Chrome [09-Feb-23 03:17 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 On firefox, I have to kill the tab process because it just keep using memory until it runs out [09-Feb-23 03:20 PM] exeler#0000 That's probably a note worth throwing at the devs. Memory leaks are no bueno [09-Feb-23 03:43 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I found the Firefox memory reports tool, I will do some testing. [09-Feb-23 03:43 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 No one else seems to have issues when asked, I think it's possibly due to my single screen to rule them all approach [09-Feb-23 03:47 PM] churavis#0000 Do you have a mega wide screen or something? [09-Feb-23 03:48 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah it's a 37 inch ultrawide [09-Feb-23 03:48 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Firefox and Chrome must handle it differently [09-Feb-23 06:45 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you join Corp, I can give you a set of WCB upgrade package for free. [09-Feb-23 07:56 PM] syqel#0000 Awesome! Where do I sign? [09-Feb-23 10:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 Check out the #welcome channel, it describes the procedure [10-Feb-23 04:53 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/gekko-cantrefuse-refuse-offer-makehimanoffer-gif-4994865 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/gekko-cantrefuse-refuse-offer-makehimanoffer-gif-4994865 I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kF7Ga4KITZJrzgKqczXOoKlAxZpM1dbGnHrbBKUhSSM/https/media.tenor.com/0HOyUWUAZggAAAAD/gekko-cantrefuse.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… (3) [10-Feb-23 05:10 AM] habix3956#0000 https://tenor.com/view/baby-throw-window-money-cash-gif-16491349 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/baby-throw-window-money-cash-gif-16491349 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/11ScyKFmfEYUKiobhsE5Q-dC3-y2376JMcc9IvEUMR0/https/media.tenor.com/c1rbgR_YFkkAAAAD/baby-throw.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (3) [10-Feb-23 08:43 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1073615183198556200/image.png?ex=6814da0e&is=6813888e&hm=6a9d0b3c885d665b4c9f2a9e8ee4c8031edd952b25afe40c3ea8dba119f4f2f8& [10-Feb-23 08:43 AM] rune_242#0000 an absolute bargain๐Ÿ˜… [10-Feb-23 08:44 AM] habix3956#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [10-Feb-23 08:44 AM] churavis#0000 Looks like someone missed a zero on their order [10-Feb-23 08:44 AM] rune_242#0000 good for me๐Ÿ’ฐ [10-Feb-23 03:11 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Hi everyone, hope you are all doing well. Happy to see continued activity in here [10-Feb-23 03:12 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 Just stopping by to say hello! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [10-Feb-23 03:14 PM] churavis#0000 DLR! We miss you man, we hope things are going well for you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [10-Feb-23 03:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Agreed! Lots of growth since you left {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [10-Feb-23 10:31 PM] syqel#0000 So it looks like I'm not going to sell my 30 BHP on ANT unless I keep lowering the price and I'm sure annoying the heck out of those guys that keep lowering their price in front of me - Should I just bring it back to Deimos and sell it to the corp? [10-Feb-23 10:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can keep reducing the price.๐Ÿ˜† [10-Feb-23 10:44 PM] syqel#0000 I like your thinking! [10-Feb-23 10:46 PM] yuen8241#0000 Because you have fewer types of products, you have enough energy to keep reducing prices with them. [10-Feb-23 10:47 PM] syqel#0000 So how does one determine/calculate how much to sell on the market vs keeping in store for corp members to buy, especially in the face of rising market prices? Do corp members come first so always keep enough for that demand? [10-Feb-23 10:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 Usually, you need to ensure that you are profitable as a whole, and then consider the members of Corp [10-Feb-23 10:51 PM] yuen8241#0000 If Corp needs something like LHP, it will place an order with you. If you don't have an order, you can sell it to cx [10-Feb-23 10:58 PM] syqel#0000 How does one determine a price for things they can provide not listed on the spreadsheet? [10-Feb-23 11:04 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Basically whatever you are comfortable with, don't offer cut price and risk losing money and not being able to expand, most of us can afford the CX prices so your discount prices are a nice to have [10-Feb-23 11:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 We prefer to keep products with strategic value inside the Corp, especially those that can improve the development ability of the members of the Corp. [10-Feb-23 11:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 For me, it's fabs or something. [10-Feb-23 11:38 PM] habix3956#0000 https://universallogistics.app/building [10-Feb-23 11:38 PM] habix3956#0000 plug in the costs of input mats and you can check the profit and break even price [10-Feb-23 11:58 PM] syqel#0000 Does this only work on Firefox? I get an error on Chrome [10-Feb-23 11:59 PM] habix3956#0000 I get no error in chrome {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1073845723596066876/image.png?ex=68150803&is=6813b683&hm=21b749b3d82afa81a168677f9d15392379af443dc14d763b804c3ecbb939abbe& [11-Feb-23 12:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh my god I forgot to repair my ships again [11-Feb-23 12:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-02-11_00-24-20.png {Embed} http://kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-02-11_00-24-20.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Qw9onodKRITlcNVp9JdGjSzo-oc4X_uCLKhyyqFRj-g/http/kortham.homeip.net/files/chrome_2023-02-11_00-24-20.png [11-Feb-23 12:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 I bought your BHPs ๐Ÿ˜› [11-Feb-23 01:28 AM] churavis#0000 Do be careful in that they start charging a fee if you try to change the price of a product more than 5 times within a rolling 24 hour period, so as to not cause penny wars that disadvantage those that can't be glued to their screen 24/7. [11-Feb-23 08:03 AM] gl4ucon#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (10) [11-Feb-23 08:09 AM] yuen8241#0000 @gl4ucon Welcome to OOG! Please check the introduction of Welcome Channel. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Feb-23 12:42 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome! โœŒ๏ธ [11-Feb-23 01:24 PM] gl4ucon#0000 hi [11-Feb-23 01:39 PM] gl4ucon#0000 what are currently needed materials? (i saw that no one was selling AU) [11-Feb-23 05:44 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 AL and C are usually good. AU is pretty niche, you could easily make too much. Do you have goals on what you would like to do in game? [11-Feb-23 06:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! Yeah, if you have any particular industry area you're interested we can definitely make suggestions. It looks like you've got a good mix of planets now with Griffonstone, Harmonia, QJ-650c, and Deimos [11-Feb-23 09:05 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I'd buy some AU [12-Feb-23 05:01 AM] domicius#0000 Lads, work is on fire (of the dumpster variety) so you won't see me on much this week. Drop me a note if you need anything (eg send me a contract) as I'll be checking Discord, and perhaps logging in once a day. {Reactions} ๐Ÿซ‚ (6) [12-Feb-23 05:01 AM] domicius#0000 @everyone [12-Feb-23 05:01 AM] rune_242#0000 what do you do for work? [12-Feb-23 07:38 AM] domicius#0000 I'm the CEO of a small IT company. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [12-Feb-23 10:01 AM] syqel#0000 Is there a standard communication for notifying people you sent them a contract for products they've listed on the spreadsheet? [12-Feb-23 10:02 AM] churavis#0000 Just send them the contract [12-Feb-23 08:02 PM] yuen8241#0000 You'd better ask some unusual things privately in advance, or I'll have to refuse them if they are out of stock or the address is wrong.๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Feb-23 10:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 I adjusted the planets in the OOG table [12-Feb-23 10:22 PM] yuen8241#0000 Removed some planets with no members on them. Aceland, ANT1-B, ANT2-B and ANT2-D were added. [12-Feb-23 10:23 PM] yuen8241#0000 Move the resource-gathering planet with only a few members to the end, and move the manufacturing, chemical and construction industries to the front. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (7) [13-Feb-23 04:49 AM] rune_242#0000 the server will be shutdown in 10 min for maintenance will there be an update? [13-Feb-23 06:44 AM] seraphx2#0000 that happens like weekly {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Feb-23 01:07 PM] martin1194#0000 deimos LM looking for 1000ALO 68ea. [13-Feb-23 03:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 with the changes yuen made, I got bored and made the base counter in row 2 work better in the spreadsheet {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐ŸŽ‰ [13-Feb-23 06:20 PM] syqel#0000 Why should I join OOG? What would you say is the best 2 or 3 things about OOG over any other corporation? [13-Feb-23 06:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 Cool, it turns out that there are 13 of us in demeter. [13-Feb-23 06:37 PM] exeler#0000 https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZLG1vVMAPnnFQDNKIc00Ube4Lq2IiktkYf1TzbnJS3g/https/media.tenor.com/sqOZZnRhjMsAAAAD/money-mr.png [13-Feb-23 06:38 PM] yuen8241#0000 Was there this thing before? I didn't notice. I just put the planet that needs industrial coordination more in front. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1074852158308102255/image.png?ex=6814bcd4&is=68136b54&hm=5254996dfb55e8b48a6d89a7e3d298189ef8cbd42ac926ae6d814697bf08b1b6& [13-Feb-23 06:39 PM] yuen8241#0000 There shouldn't be any Corp that has the same influence as OOG in ANT. [13-Feb-23 06:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can't find a Corp in ANT that can produce more complicated products such as ships than OOG. [13-Feb-23 06:42 PM] yuen8241#0000 Besides, I think it's hard for you to find a more generous Corp than OOG. [13-Feb-23 07:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah I think so, it was just counting specific cells and they'd gone bad over time. This one's much more dynamic [13-Feb-23 07:53 PM] yuen8241#0000 I hope you didn't count the retired members. [13-Feb-23 07:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 That's what it was doing [13-Feb-23 07:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 Now it counts to row 186, which includes only current members {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [13-Feb-23 07:55 PM] jackinabox86#0000 we should just delete the retired members [13-Feb-23 07:55 PM] jackinabox86#0000 or put them on a separate sheet entirely [13-Feb-23 07:55 PM] jackinabox86#0000 otherwise row 186 will go out of date [13-Feb-23 07:55 PM] jackinabox86#0000 or whatever else [13-Feb-23 07:57 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah, it could count the whole column if they're removed [13-Feb-23 08:00 PM] yuen8241#0000 I don't think it's a big deal to remove their information, because many of them have demolished their bases. [13-Feb-23 08:01 PM] yuen8241#0000 We can keep their information on the activity page. [13-Feb-23 08:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 I put the information of retirees in a separate form, so that it will never be affected again. [13-Feb-23 08:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 @hernanduer [13-Feb-23 08:23 PM] yuen8241#0000 Removed the information of several retirees. [13-Feb-23 08:24 PM] yuen8241#0000 In order to avoid the color indistinguishability, the color is modified according to the discord avatar for the people below those whose information has been removed. [13-Feb-23 08:25 PM] exeler#0000 Also, it's google sheets. I'm pretty sure it keeps versions of the file so if we really needed to dig up the info it is still there. Also if we want, it's super easy to just save a copy as a snapshot. [13-Feb-23 08:26 PM] yuen8241#0000 Do we have some full members who have not filled in the information? It seems that there are not enough. [14-Feb-23 01:07 AM] allocater#0000 in concrete numbers, 200k welcome money, 500k no-interest loan, base sponsorships and 5 discounted ships for 3.5mil each, no down payment, weekly dividend ๐Ÿค“ [14-Feb-23 01:31 AM] rune_242#0000 and after those 5 ships? [14-Feb-23 01:31 AM] rune_242#0000 because I bought 5 so far [14-Feb-23 01:45 AM] allocater#0000 then it's market price [14-Feb-23 01:45 AM] allocater#0000 4.5m atm {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [14-Feb-23 02:02 AM] rune_242#0000 can I still buy them on credit? [14-Feb-23 02:04 AM] allocater#0000 yes {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [14-Feb-23 05:57 AM] martin1194#0000 Do we need to remove YJ in the excel? [14-Feb-23 06:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I moved his information to retirees. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ [14-Feb-23 07:07 AM] rune_242#0000 do the people who make the ships get more money then? [14-Feb-23 07:07 AM] rune_242#0000 or a we losing money when selling ships at corp price? [14-Feb-23 07:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Probably the same situation as when we're selling discounting fabs internally, or discount RAT/DW, etc. It should still be a profit, just not as much as the CX profit. [14-Feb-23 07:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 Regarding the planet count on the sheet, the most accurate count is on the "Player Activity and Base List" sheet. That data comes from FIO. If you scroll down there's two lists of planets and the OOG base count (one alphabetical and one sorted by base count) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [14-Feb-23 08:52 AM] yjhasaday#0000 Yep, thank you for moving my info. I am posting to the planets where I have things today to empty my inventories. Bases have all been torn down [14-Feb-23 08:59 AM] yjhasaday#0000 To my fellow QJ-382g-ers, here is what is up for grabs there. @jackinabox86 and @.zogii [14-Feb-23 08:59 AM] yjhasaday#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1075068879467970580/image.png?ex=6814ddea&is=68138c6a&hm=856de4b1d73543e27cbdc4b83f255f0a8bb1cc721d136615371b12210e14fced& [14-Feb-23 09:19 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I took half of a few things. If he doesn't say anything in the next 24 hours, I'll send for the rest {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Feb-23 09:19 AM] jackinabox86#0000 I took 50 AEF, all the AMM by accident, 106 BSE, 920 H, and 2383 INS [14-Feb-23 09:51 AM] rune_242#0000 is there anything really important that @yjhasaday made for us? [14-Feb-23 09:53 AM] yjhasaday#0000 I think fuel was the main one and some pretty big steps have been taken to fill that hole. I have also sold a lot of H or AMM to corp members but there are a few suppliers of those now. And the last thing I did was GF stuff, which I think should be covered with the new GF planet? We haven't made a GEN ship in a long time lol [14-Feb-23 09:54 AM] rune_242#0000 thanks for letting me know! [14-Feb-23 10:25 AM] churavis#0000 Me and Yuen have GF products covered, I have several GEN in stock already [14-Feb-23 02:18 PM] habix3956#0000 wow, I got more influence on Nike than @allocater ๐Ÿฅน {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [14-Feb-23 04:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 what planet do you guys think is most in need of a name? Sadly, it doesn't seem named ones can be renamed (*cough* Elon) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [14-Feb-23 04:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 KI-840c has a large pop [14-Feb-23 04:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 Ant2b is even bigger [14-Feb-23 06:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 also I'm open to name ideas ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Feb-23 06:43 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The new glass planet WU-070a could be called Dune but there were some other ideas https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/870777970367811604/1063605870778388490 {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [14-Feb-23 07:34 PM] churavis#0000 WU-070a will be called Theia, the Greek Goddes of glass [14-Feb-23 07:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 Much better than elon and norwick. [15-Feb-23 02:49 AM] .zogii#0000 I am on a basic account right now. Feel free to send the stuff on QJ over to Jack in the box. [15-Feb-23 01:01 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Is a buy contract fulfilled directly into a ship if there is no other storage available? [15-Feb-23 01:05 PM] _bojidar#0000 No [15-Feb-23 01:13 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Ah so there is effectively no way of picking up a buy contract if the warehouse isn't big enough to fit it? [15-Feb-23 01:13 PM] churavis#0000 Sell contracts can go straight to a ship's cargo [15-Feb-23 01:14 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The other person no longer has pro and I didn't consider that before paying [15-Feb-23 01:15 PM] churavis#0000 You'll have to break it up into chunks small enough to fit in the warehouse then [15-Feb-23 09:04 PM] syqel#0000 I've noticed sometimes people offer prices higher than the stated price in the spreadsheet. Is this because they are feeling generous, feel bad because the exchange bid values are much higher, they are in a hurry to get it soon, all of the above, something else? What's the thinking here? [15-Feb-23 09:04 PM] churavis#0000 What? [15-Feb-23 09:05 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Where do you see the higher prices? On the LM? [15-Feb-23 09:06 PM] syqel#0000 In the planet channels when someone needs something they'll specify a higher price in their offer [15-Feb-23 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 All of the reasons you've mentioned [15-Feb-23 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Plus: sometimes because I am too lazy to look up a price, I will pick one I am sure is high enough. ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [15-Feb-23 09:10 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Sometimes there are different prices on the sheet too, so I just offer the highest one. [15-Feb-23 09:14 PM] yuen8241#0000 Cool๏ผ It seems that I did raise the Corp price of lfabs.๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Feb-23 09:15 PM] jackinabox86#0000 and then took all the free ones [15-Feb-23 09:15 PM] jackinabox86#0000 classic ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Feb-23 09:19 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you want these Lfabs, you can ask me for them. Or ask yj14 directly at that time. [15-Feb-23 09:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 I haven't sold any fabs on cx for a long time. My fabs is either for personal use or sold to others with a loan. [15-Feb-23 09:23 PM] yuen8241#0000 I took the lead in raising the price of Lfabs because you mentioned that you were slaughtered on Lfabs. [15-Feb-23 09:29 PM] yuen8241#0000 I only have five PP2, and I am sponsoring some bases continuously. I waited all day and no one wanted them, so I took them, because without them, I need to give the money to others to buy them from you. [15-Feb-23 11:13 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I believe it was a joke [16-Feb-23 12:28 AM] yuen8241#0000 I hope so. [16-Feb-23 12:37 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 It was definitely a joke [16-Feb-23 12:39 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 It's a form of sarcasm [16-Feb-23 12:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 I may have overreacted. But from my point of view, I do feel offended that my character is questioned. [16-Feb-23 12:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 I prefer to let the legacy be put to use rather than accumulate dust in the warehouse.๐Ÿ˜… [16-Feb-23 12:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 I hope this is a misunderstanding caused by language differences. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Feb-23 01:31 AM] habix3956#0000 I need @yuen8241 to do my personal finances as well [16-Feb-23 01:31 AM] habix3956#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Feb-23 01:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 What? You want me to be your accountant?๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Feb-23 01:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 I'll make a mess of your tax return. [16-Feb-23 01:36 AM] habix3956#0000 Seems like you could handle ๐Ÿ˜„ And I know I'm bad with money [16-Feb-23 01:36 AM] habix3956#0000 only luck is, my job is paying me too much ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Feb-23 01:36 AM] habix3956#0000 I just bought RC plane that hardly fits into my garage lol [16-Feb-23 01:39 AM] yuen8241#0000 It sounds like your remote-controlled plane can even take people.๐Ÿ˜† [16-Feb-23 01:40 AM] habix3956#0000 well.. garage is not that big.. and I have my tiny workshop there [16-Feb-23 01:40 AM] habix3956#0000 (no cars) [16-Feb-23 01:40 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1075683117140025425/330837103_1403256987114494_2556829598162619348_n.png?ex=68151fb8&is=6813ce38&hm=4857fb1dfcfba82ee6032c99e34a4eaf775070b853e711e2421fc5c5cc506dda& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [16-Feb-23 01:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 My garage is just big enough for my electric car, and I need to charge it inside. Nothing can fit in the remaining space. [16-Feb-23 01:45 AM] yuen8241#0000 I really envy you a place where you can put such a big RC Plane, and there is a place to fly it. [16-Feb-23 01:45 AM] habix3956#0000 I would fit the car, but then I couldn't store my machines anywhere.. I do have tons of place in front of house, so me & girlfriend park in front [16-Feb-23 01:46 AM] habix3956#0000 I got RC airport 10min driving away [16-Feb-23 01:46 AM] habix3956#0000 it's perfect hobby to clear mind ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Feb-23 01:51 AM] yuen8241#0000 The place where I live is so populous and crowded that I can have a garage that can charge electric cars, which is better than most people.๐Ÿคฃ [16-Feb-23 01:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 I can only fly drones here. I use it to take aerial photos of some ancient buildings that are close to 1000 years old. [16-Feb-23 01:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 In fact, I live next to a Buddhist temple, and I can hear monks ringing bells every morning. It used to be a royal temple, but now everyone can visit it. [16-Feb-23 01:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 Within a radius of less than three kilometers, you can find Catholic churches, Buddhist temples and mosques. I can see them at the same time on the ancient city wall. [16-Feb-23 01:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 Red Buddhist temples, white Catholic churches, green mosques and gray city walls. [16-Feb-23 01:58 AM] habix3956#0000 Which drone do you fly? [16-Feb-23 01:58 AM] habix3956#0000 I got a DJI FPV [16-Feb-23 01:59 AM] habix3956#0000 but still "learning" (manual flying that is) [16-Feb-23 02:00 AM] yuen8241#0000 I use a DJI drone given to me by my father-in-law. It is very small, and it can fly automatically or manually, but I can't fly well. It is usually used as a long selfie stick that goes straight up and down. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Feb-23 07:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 Anyone else have any other ideas for planets that need names? Only got 3 planets and 1 name so far [16-Feb-23 07:02 PM] yuen8241#0000 ANT1-B and ANT2-B would be nice if they had names. [16-Feb-23 07:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 Any ideas on names? [16-Feb-23 07:03 PM] churavis#0000 R2B2 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [16-Feb-23 07:43 PM] jackinabox86#0000 It was a joke. If there's a smiley face, it's a joke. You use a lot of fabs, but you're very generous and people hadn't claimed them, so no issues from me [16-Feb-23 07:43 PM] jackinabox86#0000 the language/cultural divides are an interesting component of this game/community. As a native english speaker, I have to remember that not everyone sees all the nuance I think I'm providing [16-Feb-23 08:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 The word classic is now more like a declaration of war in our online context. It is endowed with a very strong irony. I think this is the reason why I have a strong reaction. [16-Feb-23 08:36 PM] yuen8241#0000 In the formal context, it is a good word. In the network context, it is usually used to Mock and attack others.. [16-Feb-23 09:03 PM] jackinabox86#0000 interesting. I'll avoid it in the future [17-Feb-23 01:56 AM] allocater#0000 After the loss of Midas ๐Ÿ˜… there are no strong naming needs I think, so you can hold off until one develops. You could probably even auction off the naming rights to the entire universe. [17-Feb-23 01:59 AM] allocater#0000 I was looking for a good chemical name for Ant1b, but didn't find one [17-Feb-23 01:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 How many times can naming rights be used? [17-Feb-23 01:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 After purchasing a sponsor once, can I only use it once or once in every universe? [17-Feb-23 02:16 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 They can be reused after universe resets [17-Feb-23 02:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 What did the previous planet naming vote do? [17-Feb-23 02:18 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 You could names planets and systems in the last universe too, it worked the same [17-Feb-23 02:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 I mean, did the previous voting naming campaign allow us to name the planet for free? [17-Feb-23 02:24 AM] allocater#0000 who started the campaigns? the devs or random players with naming rights? [17-Feb-23 02:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 I don't know. [17-Feb-23 02:32 AM] allocater#0000 if devs started it it was free, if players started it, they payed sponsor and gave it away for free [17-Feb-23 02:43 AM] martin1194#0000 Looking for DDT [17-Feb-23 02:44 AM] allocater#0000 I have 163 on ant for 3000/u [17-Feb-23 02:44 AM] allocater#0000 I keep buying it to sabotage FIM production ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Feb-23 03:09 AM] martin1194#0000 u also buy it from CX ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [17-Feb-23 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 Even if you buy DDT from cx, you will make a lot of money. [17-Feb-23 03:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Don't waste your time producing things other than HER and FIM. Let me lend you a loan to buy more DDT. [17-Feb-23 08:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think with the name right I can just name it without any voting. A button appears next to any unnamed planet that says "name this planet" [17-Feb-23 11:40 AM] churavis#0000 Does anyone sell N anywhere now? [17-Feb-23 11:43 AM] erklein#0000 I've usually got plenty on ZV-639d [17-Feb-23 11:44 AM] churavis#0000 Do you have a thousand right now? [17-Feb-23 11:44 AM] churavis#0000 If I come pick it up? [17-Feb-23 11:44 AM] erklein#0000 Yep. [17-Feb-23 11:45 AM] churavis#0000 Cool send me a sell contract and I'll be there within a day {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Feb-23 11:45 AM] churavis#0000 And let me know if you need anything from ANT [17-Feb-23 11:46 AM] erklein#0000 If you have LST, I will happily accept [17-Feb-23 11:49 AM] churavis#0000 I've got 500 I can sell you, plus space for up to 500 more from your own stores {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Feb-23 11:55 AM] churavis#0000 How much did you want to buy/ship? [17-Feb-23 06:30 PM] jackinabox86#0000 You can. Some people ask the community. Itโ€™s your money, so name away [18-Feb-23 10:47 AM] syqel#0000 So what's the verdict? Am I in? [18-Feb-23 11:12 AM] allocater#0000 sure, if we convinced you [18-Feb-23 11:14 AM] allocater#0000 I have to say I find the 1 week trial awkward and wouldn't mind getting rid of it. [18-Feb-23 11:15 AM] syqel#0000 I'm convinced! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค— ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [18-Feb-23 11:21 AM] syqel#0000 The only thing awkward is not knowing whether I should say something after the 7 days - 'Did they forget? Or are they testing me to see if I really want it?' ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [18-Feb-23 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 yeah, nobody was keeping track of that ๐Ÿ˜… [18-Feb-23 02:12 PM] syqel#0000 I presume yuen gets the finders fee and needs to take care of the invite? [18-Feb-23 02:16 PM] allocater#0000 you don't see the invite? [18-Feb-23 02:17 PM] syqel#0000 It should be in the CO buffer, right? [18-Feb-23 02:18 PM] syqel#0000 Nope. Found it. Thanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Feb-23 09:01 PM] yuen8241#0000 I hope there is a finders feey fee here.๐Ÿ˜† [19-Feb-23 12:53 PM] allocater#0000 wow someone started on heph {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1076939638423433246/image.png?ex=681514b2&is=6813c332&hm=a7ed697b0882f51f4b62a7522a7d30c0e977c3603b57783e2a4603ce5379ebc1& [19-Feb-23 01:37 PM] churavis#0000 I wish I had started on Heph [19-Feb-23 06:53 PM] martin1194#0000 RAT is very expentive right now. LOL [19-Feb-23 08:03 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Buy some at Hortus and ship them back if you can. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1077047932190203925/image.png?ex=6814d0cd&is=68137f4d&hm=939bc20427b7b9984518cb687444113cb1e769b231d36e9eb7087e3b97b642cf& {Reactions} ๐Ÿค‘ [20-Feb-23 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 A harmonia base full of HYF and norwick can produce at least 1k RAT +1k DW every day. [20-Feb-23 03:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 It can even provide enough crops for nascent to burn at the same time. [20-Feb-23 03:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 In the past, consumables and C were so cheap that using HYF to produce crops lost money. Now is the right time to do so. [20-Feb-23 03:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1077158687447191653/image.png?ex=68148f33&is=68133db3&hm=ca395f80aefad20613343e66b230b069d2936af2619341276ec6a1da96f2d0d9& [20-Feb-23 03:26 AM] yuen8241#0000 We can dynamically adjust the production capacity of water, DW, RAT and C according to the price fluctuation. [20-Feb-23 03:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 The disadvantage is that HYF need a large investment, and these four bases need an LCB to maintain. [20-Feb-23 03:28 AM] habix3956#0000 is there no better h2o producing planet near? [20-Feb-23 03:28 AM] habix3956#0000 As far as I know HYF can be built anywhere [20-Feb-23 03:32 AM] habix3956#0000 https://universallogistics.app/building/HYF seems that both frm & hyf have ultra low profits atm [20-Feb-23 03:33 AM] yuen8241#0000 But you need to enjoy agricultural COGC, and HYF products are much heavier than its raw materials, so you need to be closer to FP base than H2O base. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Feb-23 03:33 AM] habix3956#0000 oh yes.. I always forget about the bonuses [20-Feb-23 03:34 AM] yuen8241#0000 HYF's profit is very low, but this industrial chain allows you to have a stable supply of DW, RAT and C. [20-Feb-23 03:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 ANT has no high-quality agricultural planet, so Harmonia's HYF is the only way to get enough C and RAT at the same time. [20-Feb-23 03:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 Demeter is too far away, and the two FRM planets together cannot maintain the INC base and FP base at the same time. [20-Feb-23 03:37 AM] yuen8241#0000 I think in ANT's case, demeter is more suitable for producing HER or HOP, rather than burning C or making RAT crops. [20-Feb-23 08:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 That's a huge amount of throughout though [20-Feb-23 08:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 More than a single 2k ship [20-Feb-23 09:11 AM] rune_242#0000 I only use HYF for making CAF and MUS {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [21-Feb-23 05:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 Considering that your products can be sold directly at the place of origin, the main transportation is raw materials. [21-Feb-23 11:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 @allocater you're right, the open jobs are calculated based on the last period, not the new period {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Feb-23 11:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 but the rest of the numbers (besides unemployment) are based on the new period [21-Feb-23 11:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 confusing [22-Feb-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿฆ— {Reactions} amongusspace [23-Feb-23 01:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Twentieth base๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1078212494281158716/image.png?ex=681518e2&is=6813c762&hm=62e1893b889d329d8f0a6d89f1bdda6b01dc321b638c00ecf465a5924e8ee0d0& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (3) [23-Feb-23 02:04 AM] habix3956#0000 My company is working for chamber of global commerce here in Slovenija (we have 20+ apps developed for them).. they just gave us another legacy app to support and I find out on first day this public app is running on http (app is up for decade) lol [23-Feb-23 02:05 AM] habix3956#0000 @churavis you got that right... having IT company doesn't make you good in IT lol [23-Feb-23 07:53 AM] gl4ucon#0000 what happens after the 1 week trial period? [23-Feb-23 08:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 I noticed that you didn't seem to register your base and product information. [23-Feb-23 08:27 AM] gl4ucon#0000 sry [23-Feb-23 08:28 AM] gl4ucon#0000 in the OB corporate production? [23-Feb-23 08:38 AM] gl4ucon#0000 should be done [23-Feb-23 10:39 AM] allocater#0000 we forget about it and have to be reminded ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [23-Feb-23 10:40 AM] gl4ucon#0000 no worries [23-Feb-23 10:43 AM] gl4ucon#0000 after reading the corp prod, am i correct in assuming we need a higher wai prod? [23-Feb-23 10:46 AM] allocater#0000 what indicates that? I think domicius covers 100% of demand [23-Feb-23 10:46 AM] allocater#0000 I hear EPO is in high demand though [23-Feb-23 10:51 AM] domicius#0000 So much WAI [23-Feb-23 10:51 AM] domicius#0000 .... [23-Feb-23 11:07 AM] hernanduer#0000 Archiel makes some too [23-Feb-23 11:07 AM] gl4ucon#0000 i mean we only have 3 SL {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [23-Feb-23 11:08 AM] allocater#0000 maybe it's not up to date [23-Feb-23 11:08 AM] gl4ucon#0000 ok so some of the labs are not on the sheet [23-Feb-23 11:09 AM] gladeowl#0000 We keep forgetting to update the sheet inline with our expansions. *which reminds me.* {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) [23-Feb-23 11:28 AM] domicius#0000 I haven't updated my data in a long while. [23-Feb-23 12:49 PM] exeler#0000 Same, I keep the prices one up to date, but I neglect the actual base buildings page. [23-Feb-23 07:15 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have five Sl [23-Feb-23 07:41 PM] yuen8241#0000 After my A1A base is built, I can produce a large number of SL products. My problem now is that I don't have enough SD. [24-Feb-23 04:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm running an Eco server, if anyone is interested in playing while their PRUN ships are flying around, I would be happy to have more fun people. Just message me for details. The game is on steam here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/382310/Eco/ {Embed} https://store.steampowered.com/app/382310/Eco/ Eco Enter the world of Eco, a fully simulated ecosystem bustling with thousands of growing plants and animals living their lives. Build, harvest, and take resources from an environment where your every action affects the world around you. An imminent meteor strike threatens global destruction. Can you save the world without destroying it in the pro... Price $29.99 Recommendations 8572 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jMxJwft4kxC4E3AbdwltwqRz6-h7YD5TEGc88DGjWn0/%3Ft%3D1675344590/https/cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/382310/header.jpg [24-Feb-23 04:36 PM] domicius#0000 More power to you! Looks interesting. [24-Feb-23 06:49 PM] exeler#0000 This has been on my steam wishlist forever. Is it fun? [24-Feb-23 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's pretty fun. It's minecraft with a tech tree sort of similar to various modded minecrafts. Looks a lot nicer. Depending on the people you are playing with, it can sort of be a big cooperative game, or a cut-throat economic simulation as people set up stores and calculate prices. Obviously a lot more casual and less spreadsheet-y than PRUN. It is moderately grindy. But the tech trees are pretty fun and seeing the world evolve is nice. I like building and decorating houses, so that's pretty fun for me. [24-Feb-23 07:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 The ecological simulation is present and kind of interesting, but it's also somewhat irrelevant and can often be ignored. [24-Feb-23 07:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 The trailer is a little old, you can find some youtube summaries that describe it a little better than the steam trailer. [24-Feb-23 07:29 PM] jackinabox86#0000 if only I had more time [25-Feb-23 02:01 AM] martin1194#0000 ANT: ~~426FIM is available 1400AIC@1~~ 186FIM is available 1400AIC@1 [25-Feb-23 07:10 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Anyone happen to have a spreadsheet which shows their consumable requirements over all bases for a specified period? [25-Feb-23 07:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nope, but I'm guessing your best option is to pull it in from FIO's burnrate api [25-Feb-23 08:21 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah I was thinking something like that. [25-Feb-23 08:22 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The burn rate indication on the consumbles buffer is nice but it doesn't provide a number to get back to green either. [26-Feb-23 12:18 AM] habix3956#0000 https://fio.fnar.net/burn [26-Feb-23 12:20 AM] habix3956#0000 It does show overall needs, it just doesn't tell you how much you need to get into the green, but you can calc that easy [26-Feb-23 12:26 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah fio burn is what I use which shows needs to green, I'm referring to the PMMG beautifier browser addon which shows your burn rate right in the workforce buffer which doesn't show what you need to get to green [26-Feb-23 12:26 AM] habix3956#0000 I got the browser addon, but I use the website [26-Feb-23 12:27 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1079288556972937296/image.png?ex=68150e8c&is=6813bd0c&hm=d26d85e530ddda43f433f371adb1d76ac2680a92ce20bb3456e7779b2e143a19& [26-Feb-23 12:30 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Ah there is a difference, the newer burn one doesn't show what you need to go green but the other one that only shows consumables does [26-Feb-23 12:30 AM] habix3956#0000 ahhhh I see it ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Feb-23 12:30 AM] habix3956#0000 I just pick up arbitrary days I want supply for, then do quick math manually when buying [26-Feb-23 12:31 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 My need is to show an aggregate burn rate over all bases and total needs for 30 days so I can plan bulk purchases {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Feb-23 12:32 AM] habix3956#0000 shipping 20days worth of consumables to grff right now (easy to calc from burn rate) [26-Feb-23 12:32 AM] habix3956#0000 you could probably copy/paste the new burn page to excel and add some formulas to calc it for you [26-Feb-23 12:38 AM] neth_havoc#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15gbWAFxbkOwQOc7hI8W4TAdhj__sLaoxRP24EY33y54/edit#gid=992135889 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15gbWAFxbkOwQOc7hI8W4TAdhj__sLaoxRP24EY33y54/edit FIO Integration - Master Storage and Consumables 1.8 Release Input VERSION 1.8,HELP / INFO - HOVER HERE,Credits First visit all of your colonies by clicking on each one with the BS menu. Open up the CXOS screen to read your market orders. Fill in the user name in B6 and your API key in D6. ,All data now pulled using FIO CSV endpoints. Data should upda... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JAyQgl9hzjCPv_xajx5DhQe71G_daFqyA89RL9YjeRA/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/wFwyx92icezlFNq2NOJbvpIE7ob3jhPeQ-43Rc0OUypZ8uuwT3aNmqsdhQBF-vSMZ6y3HyjEkDHKBw%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [26-Feb-23 12:42 AM] neth_havoc#0000 That at least imports via FIO and calculates the days of supply, which you could then add up to your needs. [26-Feb-23 12:45 AM] habix3956#0000 very nice! [26-Feb-23 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 At the bottom of the new Burn on the FIO webpage, there is an "All bases" section, which is nice for total consumable nubmers [26-Feb-23 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 not sure how it deals with some bases producing RAT and others only consuming it. I assume it sums them all [26-Feb-23 03:25 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I didn't see that before, I'm still using the old Burn Rate ui because the new one doesn't have the "Units To Yellow" column. [26-Feb-23 04:11 PM] gl4ucon#0000 de we need a SAR prod chain? [26-Feb-23 04:13 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 That's a niche product, I make my own [26-Feb-23 04:14 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Are you looking for something to contribute? [26-Feb-23 04:15 PM] gl4ucon#0000 yes [26-Feb-23 04:15 PM] gl4ucon#0000 i am looking to find a new prod chain i could start up [26-Feb-23 04:16 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I assume from the question you want something reasonably complex? [26-Feb-23 04:17 PM] gl4ucon#0000 yes [26-Feb-23 04:21 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I would suggest that you aim for something that is going to be consistently in demand like ship parts, fabs or consumables and produce most things along the chain. You need to be careful that you don't over produce which can be easy to do with high end consumables. [26-Feb-23 04:22 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 As you work along the chain, there may be an extraction base or similar that you can just mass produce something that other corp members will buy in bulk [26-Feb-23 04:23 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I did this for HAL for example, it produces significantly more than I need so it supplies some other corp players too. [26-Feb-23 04:24 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I also don't make any workforce consumables, they distract from the things I want to produce [26-Feb-23 06:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe ask @allocater if something is consistently short for shipbuilding [26-Feb-23 09:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can produce fabs, the demand for which is endless. [26-Feb-23 09:59 PM] yuen8241#0000 Electronic products are easy to be overproduced. [26-Feb-23 10:24 PM] martin1194#0000 There are too few DDT in the market.. [26-Feb-23 10:24 PM] martin1194#0000 LOL [26-Feb-23 10:55 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The fab chains only get complex for rfabs though. I wouldn't say don't produce electronics, just don't aim to produce electronics solely to go to market. [27-Feb-23 10:21 AM] allocater#0000 Yuen is looking to retire from BR1 and CQM production. LIS, ADR, COM and NV1 are free on heph. The missing parts you would have to organize. [27-Feb-23 10:57 AM] churavis#0000 I can pick up the slack until you find someone else, my Nike UPF has 176% efficiency and almost does the work of two on Heph {Reactions} โค๏ธ [27-Feb-23 01:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll have 12 SNMs on Phobos coming soon, at a rate slightly faster than 1 per day. I can also look into making SAR if that's needed, just let me know [27-Feb-23 02:36 PM] gl4ucon#0000 that is fine i will start with the building process (i will first set up the cqm) [27-Feb-23 03:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Awesome, let me know if you need any BMF or WAI for the LIS in the CQM. I make both on Phobos. [27-Feb-23 03:31 PM] gl4ucon#0000 i am currently calculating how much i need ( building mat) [27-Feb-23 03:49 PM] gl4ucon#0000 @jackinabox86 do you have 128 lbh? [27-Feb-23 04:19 PM] jackinabox86#0000 yes [27-Feb-23 06:46 PM] yuen8241#0000 Non-vertically integrated production of BR1 and CQM takes a lot of energy. Considering that I will have 22 bases, it is difficult for me to take care of so many things. [27-Feb-23 07:04 PM] gl4ucon#0000 how many br1/cqm pairs are you producing every week? [27-Feb-23 07:08 PM] yuen8241#0000 If raw materials are sufficient, 0.6 BR1 and 0.6 CQM a day. [27-Feb-23 07:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 These CQM and BR1 consumed too much DEC and PSL/PSM, so that after my own production capacity was exhausted, I couldn't buy enough through Corp Not to mention the FET and Ti that my SKF and ASM need. [27-Feb-23 07:17 PM] gl4ucon#0000 well i cannot just fill such a void in a week, but i am currently preparing to produce 1 cqm and 1 br1 every 4 days {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [27-Feb-23 07:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 Now my PPF and POL can produce what I need in the electronics and Construction industries. [27-Feb-23 07:18 PM] yuen8241#0000 At the same time, I don't have to face a lot of contracts and transportation tasks every day. [27-Feb-23 07:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 More than a dozen unfinished contracts upset me very much.๐Ÿ˜… [27-Feb-23 07:30 PM] martin1194#0000 These stuff is avaible at ANT: 384 MAI 160AIC@1 186 FIM 1400AIC@1 [27-Feb-23 08:38 PM] jackinabox86#0000 if possible, I believe the pace we're shooting for is 1 every 3 days. Allocater can confirmthough. I'm not perfect with the engines myself {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Feb-23 01:27 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (4) [28-Feb-23 01:29 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Hey @parisinspringtime - welcome. Take some time to look around if you want and if you like it, feel free to reach to any of the guys to invite you after 7 days. We'll most likely forget about it :P. Feel free to check the #welcome and #rules-faq channels as well. And if you like what you see, think it might be the right place for you, you should fill in the sheet in #welcome channel with your production so we all know what you make and how much you'd want to charge for it within the corp. I've been trading with Paris quite a lot in the past few weeks and helping each other out. Alongside Habix he's been using my C production and ALO on Deimos. [28-Feb-23 01:31 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Hi! Thanks for the invite here. {Reactions} hugplz [28-Feb-23 01:32 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Welcome [28-Feb-23 01:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 Welcome! I bought AL in deimo for 500 AIC for a long time, and you can sell it to me at any time. [28-Feb-23 01:48 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Thank you. I see a lot of names I've traded with before. [28-Feb-23 01:48 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Good to know where all the cool kids are hanging. [28-Feb-23 10:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! Yeah I've seen your name around ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Feb-23 10:31 AM] jackinabox86#0000 welcome [28-Feb-23 10:34 AM] domicius#0000 Hey. I'm cool! Yay! [28-Feb-23 10:41 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ถ [28-Feb-23 10:42 AM] gladeowl#0000 Welcome! [28-Feb-23 10:42 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 If I was doing something nefarious, don't tell anyone. [28-Feb-23 10:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 You can buy my silence ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Feb-23 11:28 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 eh, no one will believe you. my mom still thinks I'm an angel. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ผ (2) [03-Mar-23 06:04 AM] martin1194#0000 Seems I can't buy DDT from CX. I will put FIM production to RAT. [04-Mar-23 03:39 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 At the avg CX price it's just over 7mil to stock all my bases for 30 days {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1081511325437542400/image.png?ex=681492e9&is=68134169&hm=99e616b6daff02cd6e02f1794dfd7252883c7f5165de678c86da37df91ae604d& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฏ (2) [04-Mar-23 04:58 AM] domicius#0000 That's epic [04-Mar-23 06:21 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have kept some consumables in the base for 50 days, not to mention those produced by me.๐Ÿ˜† [04-Mar-23 06:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 I estimate that 60m of raw materials and consumables have been stockpiled. [04-Mar-23 06:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 One of my goals is to store every consumable in ANT, which is enough for the whole cx of ANT for one week. [04-Mar-23 09:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 Well, I've got enough VG on ANT to supply your bases for 5174 days [04-Mar-23 09:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 2018 VG ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Mar-23 09:43 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Good to know. [04-Mar-23 11:02 AM] jackinabox86#0000 With Dez gone, weโ€™ll need it! [05-Mar-23 12:45 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/8th-big-limerick-contest/5560/9 - if anyone is willing and have some spare time to give me a vote would be grand ๐Ÿ˜„ {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/8th-big-limerick-contest/5560/9 8th big limerick contest The Bases are widely dispersed, and traveltimes seemingly cursed. Now asking: โ€œWhat is the solution?โ€ Quick Charge for reactors with fusion! Vast distances must be traversed. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [06-Mar-23 10:09 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Joined the server. [06-Mar-23 10:14 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Hi [06-Mar-23 10:29 PM] yuen8241#0000 Welcome to OOG! You can check the welcome channel. You can learn some information through spreadsheets.๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Mar-23 10:33 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Cool [06-Mar-23 10:37 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Interesting no one has expanded to ZV-759d. I have that one in my long-term expansion plans [06-Mar-23 10:38 PM] churavis#0000 What makes you think no one is on ZV-759d? [06-Mar-23 10:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 The spreadsheet doesn't have anything listed for ZV-759d [06-Mar-23 10:39 PM] churavis#0000 That doesn't mean no one is there, just that no one is selling anything from there [06-Mar-23 10:40 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Oh, ok [06-Mar-23 10:40 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I was planning to develop it as a chemistry base, eventually [06-Mar-23 10:41 PM] churavis#0000 It's a good planet, if you can source enough INS and HSE [06-Mar-23 10:42 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Yeah, that's why it is long-term [06-Mar-23 10:42 PM] churavis#0000 Griffonstone is farther away but MCG only and has high tier workers [06-Mar-23 10:44 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I like the idea of having a focus in a single system to cut down transportation [06-Mar-23 10:45 PM] churavis#0000 Ships are a one-time expense, maintenance costs are forever [06-Mar-23 10:45 PM] draconisdomini#0000 True [06-Mar-23 10:46 PM] draconisdomini#0000 But since you only need 1 HSE, you shouldn't need to provide that for repairs if you don't let things degrade too far, right? [06-Mar-23 10:46 PM] churavis#0000 No, repair costs round up, meaning you need 1 HSE no matter when you repair, from day 1 to day 180 [06-Mar-23 10:47 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Damn, I thought it rounded down [06-Mar-23 10:49 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Maybe I'll change that plan [06-Mar-23 10:52 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Well, that's not for a while anyway. Expanding Harmonia and rationalising Deimos first [06-Mar-23 11:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Checked PRUNner again and it shows repair costs at only around 10% of profit for my ZV-759d plan, so I'll probably keep that. Still, will be a little while before I have the 1.7mil to fund it though [07-Mar-23 01:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 A1B can also be used. It's a chemical planet developed by allocator. [07-Mar-23 01:38 AM] martin1194#0000 3000 RAT avaliable in VH-331a 50AIC ea If no one get this, I will send to ANT 60AIC ea.(corp price) but need few days. [07-Mar-23 01:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can sell it to me at avalon. [07-Mar-23 01:44 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can set a higher price. [07-Mar-23 02:07 AM] martin1194#0000 already in VH-331a. I must not tranport it to VH-331a. LOL [07-Mar-23 03:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 What's the name of VH-331a? [07-Mar-23 07:11 AM] rune_242#0000 promitor [07-Mar-23 07:12 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1082651952271327303/image.png?ex=6814c4b4&is=68137334&hm=727de95fcc567f25f71429689f9bf1480c62d19796a1eb837f6f3dae041c357b& [07-Mar-23 07:12 AM] rune_242#0000 what is that (+327) next to the amount of plots? [07-Mar-23 07:27 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 I believe its ghost plots? 328 players would need to remove their base before there is an open slot for someone to settle on that planet. [07-Mar-23 07:48 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3GrxybYYyfIcNaGgpsz7m-eoIG9vt2sH7d1v6jE3VWI/https/media.tenor.com/Xw9NRtyNMb4AAAAD/simpson.png [07-Mar-23 07:49 AM] yuen8241#0000 Most of promitor's players started there. [07-Mar-23 09:57 AM] erklein#0000 New players can always start on starter planets even if there arenโ€™t any plots available on the planet count, which causes the overflow [08-Mar-23 09:35 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Does anyone produce PG for less than 36AIC/unit? [09-Mar-23 07:28 PM] yuen8241#0000 I have the impression that there are many people who can do it. [09-Mar-23 08:14 PM] exeler#0000 I'm pretty sure everyone who makes PG makes it for cheaper than that. [09-Mar-23 08:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 The 21st base๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1083574128369475624/image.png?ex=6814d3cc&is=6813824c&hm=4f8a1bdc457679d17449d061faeee2fab497dedfd965b2b67affef60a91c03fc& [09-Mar-23 08:30 PM] churavis#0000 Depends on whether you make your own carbon or not [09-Mar-23 08:35 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I was going to stop making C simply to not have as many bases, the difference between making and buying enough for my own needs over 30 days is about 1.3mil. There is an argument there somewhere about opportunity cost but that's a huge difference. [09-Mar-23 08:37 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1083579402572546128/image.png?ex=6814d8b5&is=68138735&hm=1efbf4de44d1fba038dd719e4475d5b1c3d8d1520c8256e9028342fdbdeab8b1& [09-Mar-23 08:38 PM] yuen8241#0000 I guess your C consumption is less than 100 a day. [09-Mar-23 08:38 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 No, it's 184 [09-Mar-23 08:39 PM] yuen8241#0000 So your unit price for C is 235? [09-Mar-23 08:40 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I have 2x SME, 2x EPO, 1x PG and some other smaller C uses [09-Mar-23 08:40 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I consider by C buy price to be 300/u [09-Mar-23 08:40 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1083580223850815498/image.png?ex=6814d979&is=681387f9&hm=0ca63a9bd2608ea34ba2cfbe43da2762ff04a3c8e91041958ad937fc79b28e09& [09-Mar-23 08:41 PM] yuen8241#0000 I don't think this price is possible [09-Mar-23 08:41 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I buy C from myself at 300, the CX average according to the FIO API is 536.54 [09-Mar-23 08:41 PM] yuen8241#0000 Sometimes, the price of C in HRT will be close to 500. [09-Mar-23 08:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 You calculate your C price at 300, which is really too low. [09-Mar-23 08:43 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Why? I'm an internal market of 1. [09-Mar-23 08:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 According to the current crop price, maybe 300 can only maintain not making a loss. [09-Mar-23 08:44 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I don't buy crops though [09-Mar-23 08:45 PM] yuen8241#0000 In my opinion, you should consider the profit of every link in the whole production chain. [09-Mar-23 08:48 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Every part of the chain is profitable in itself and either I'm spreading the profit out by raising how much I pay myself for each part or I just have a super profitable end product, the outcome seems the same. I'm not going to micro manage how much each part is costing me just because the CX changes a little bit every day. [09-Mar-23 08:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 The difference is that you can use raw materials or intermediate goods produced by others to improve your overall profit, which is the significance of accounting the profit of each base separately. [09-Mar-23 08:50 PM] yuen8241#0000 Isn't it what you are trying to do now? Give up the production of C to do something more profitable. [09-Mar-23 08:52 PM] yuen8241#0000 Overall accounting is suitable for those products whose intermediate products lack trading volume. [09-Mar-23 09:02 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I buy barely any raw or intermediate goods. Most of my purchases are consumables, I don't make any. [09-Mar-23 09:02 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 No, I was considering giving up C production so I didn't have as many bases. [09-Mar-23 09:03 PM] yuen8241#0000 I am completely opposite to you. I rely heavily on purchasing raw materials such as C, AL, Ti, CL and EPO, but I can produce a lot of consumables. [09-Mar-23 09:04 PM] yuen8241#0000 I guess I will be the first one among us to produce all kinds of consumables. [09-Mar-23 09:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 I checked. In fact, I have already achieved it. I don't produce COF and KOM just because their profits are too low. [09-Mar-23 09:06 PM] yuen8241#0000 If their prices soar, I may switch production. [09-Mar-23 10:00 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I was more wondering if anyone would be willing to sell me some PG [09-Mar-23 10:01 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Also, the ANT exchange is out of COF [09-Mar-23 10:01 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I have an order for 3000 PG up at ANT for 36/unit [09-Mar-23 10:03 PM] churavis#0000 I can spare a little bit of COF and PG if anyone is desperate [09-Mar-23 10:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I really need the PG [09-Mar-23 10:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I have a production line that is idle at the moment for lack of PG [09-Mar-23 10:04 PM] churavis#0000 Where? [09-Mar-23 10:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Harmonia [09-Mar-23 10:05 PM] churavis#0000 I don't have any on Harmonia but you can send me a contract for up to 3k on ANT for 25/u [09-Mar-23 10:09 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Contract sent [09-Mar-23 10:09 PM] churavis#0000 You need any coffee? [09-Mar-23 10:10 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I'm ok for COF at the moment, I got 100 before the CX ran out [09-Mar-23 10:11 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Thanks very much for the PG {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Mar-23 10:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 The price fluctuation of consumables is really one after another. [09-Mar-23 10:12 PM] yuen8241#0000 FIMใ€RATใ€COF [09-Mar-23 10:13 PM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that there are not enough FP in the universe. [09-Mar-23 10:18 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Good thing I'm expanding my consumable production on Harmonia then. I don't produce FIM or COF at the moment though [09-Mar-23 10:20 PM] yuen8241#0000 You can consider building an industrial chain of harmonia's HYF and norwick's FP to produce a lot of DW, RAT and COF. [09-Mar-23 10:23 PM] draconisdomini#0000 At the moment I'm producing RAT, DW, OVE, EXO and PWO [09-Mar-23 10:23 PM] draconisdomini#0000 The OVE/EXO/PWO line is what needs the PG [09-Mar-23 10:27 PM] draconisdomini#0000 It felt like a waste to use HYF rather than FRM on Harmonia and not take advantage of it being a fertile planet [09-Mar-23 10:27 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I'll probably shift my FP over to Norwick eventually though [09-Mar-23 11:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 Harmonia is not a fertile planet. [09-Mar-23 11:43 PM] yuen8241#0000 Its fertility bonus is negative. [09-Mar-23 11:44 PM] churavis#0000 It's more fertile than most planets [09-Mar-23 11:44 PM] yuen8241#0000 I'd rather go to proxion and nemenis to build FRM [09-Mar-23 11:45 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Neither of which are close to Antares [09-Mar-23 11:46 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The drive to super optimisation is not good for new players and suggesting planets in different regions is not feasible for a lot of players in general [09-Mar-23 11:48 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I only have three bases. Deimos, Harmonia and Nike [09-Mar-23 11:48 PM] yuen8241#0000 New players can use harmonia to supply FP of Norwick and INC of nascent through the combination of FRM+HYF. [09-Mar-23 11:49 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you only have three bases, it is better for you to use FRM of harmonia and FP of norwick, but generally speaking, an agricultural planet can't maintain an FP planet unless it has HYF. [09-Mar-23 11:49 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 but saying that Harmonia isn't fertile is misleading, it's the best fertile planet that the region has [09-Mar-23 11:50 PM] draconisdomini#0000 My FPs are on Harmonia with the FRMs and my INCs are on Deimos with the SMEs. I might separate things out more later, but at the moment that's the way my bases work [09-Mar-23 11:50 PM] yuen8241#0000 Demeter is more fertile than Harmonia. [09-Mar-23 11:50 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Demeter is also much, much further [09-Mar-23 11:51 PM] draconisdomini#0000 And managing that with my two starter ships would be difficult [09-Mar-23 11:51 PM] yuen8241#0000 FRM's proprietary products HER and GRN should be produced by demeter. [09-Mar-23 11:51 PM] yuen8241#0000 Unless you produce FIM, FP-related products are heavy and need an LCB. [09-Mar-23 11:52 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Demeter seems like it would be better suited to ORC and higher tier products [09-Mar-23 11:52 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 "should" is best replaced by "is best produced when you are an established player trying to optimise" {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [09-Mar-23 11:53 PM] yuen8241#0000 Generally speaking, it is enough for you to have an ORC. There is only one food planet in ANT area. If you produce ORC products, you only need one agricultural planet to maintain norwick. [09-Mar-23 11:55 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I only have pioneers and settlers on any of my bases, so I don't need the higher tier consumables yet anyway [09-Mar-23 11:56 PM] yuen8241#0000 In order to maintain a norwick full of buildings, you can choose three ORC Harmonia, or FRM+HYF Harmonia, or FRM Harmonia, with an area of 1,000, or FRM harmonia+demeter, or Etherwind/ICE Station+Harmonia,. [09-Mar-23 11:57 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I'm expanding Harmonia up to 1000 [09-Mar-23 11:57 PM] yuen8241#0000 This is one of the cheapest combinations and the lowest transportation volume in the previous period. [09-Mar-23 11:58 PM] draconisdomini#0000 That's why I'm doing it [10-Mar-23 12:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 What's the matter with ANT's COF? The COF I bought from CIS can be sold at 800.๐Ÿ˜… [10-Mar-23 12:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Do some COF producers stop playing? [10-Mar-23 10:23 AM] exeler#0000 I just keep buying it regardless of the price, so maybe I'm the problem? [10-Mar-23 11:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 I assume the FPs are busy making RATs that sell at 162/u [10-Mar-23 11:40 AM] exeler#0000 I also am buying those off the CX in large quantites regardless of price :THONK: [11-Mar-23 05:00 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Is there a source of AR in the corp? [11-Mar-23 05:03 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 No one on the spreadsheet, the CX is out of both AR and INS. The price of INS was going to the moon before it ran out as well. [11-Mar-23 05:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have 325 AR in ANT [11-Mar-23 05:07 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Did you get it from the CX? [11-Mar-23 05:07 AM] yuen8241#0000 I bought some AR from rune before, and I also bought some from CX. [11-Mar-23 05:11 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 It doesn't make much sense for me to buy it from someone who already uses it to make INS, I assume someone has a base on KI-401d which is likely the primary source in the region. [11-Mar-23 05:11 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Another KI-401d base might be required. The price of H is also creeping up again which also comes from KI-401d. [11-Mar-23 05:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Are you interested in this base? [11-Mar-23 12:25 PM] erklein#0000 Heads up for anyone on ANT II D, COG is about to change over and there aren't any votes so if you don't want to lose the COG bonus you've got 18 hours [11-Mar-23 12:38 PM] churavis#0000 Thanks for the heads up, voted [11-Mar-23 02:15 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Possibly in the future but not right now [11-Mar-23 04:42 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Im selling 500k AIC to get some CIS - would anyone be interested? [11-Mar-23 04:42 PM] churavis#0000 That's what the bank is for [11-Mar-23 04:43 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Oh I thought that was for loans ๐Ÿ˜› [11-Mar-23 04:44 PM] churavis#0000 Our bank is special in that it can do more than one thing [11-Mar-23 04:44 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Do we have a dedicated banker? Is it allo? [11-Mar-23 04:46 PM] churavis#0000 Of course it's allo. He puts up buy orders for high value MM products and then transports them to other CX for money transfer [11-Mar-23 04:46 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Poor allo ๐Ÿ˜„ hope he never quits. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [11-Mar-23 04:47 PM] churavis#0000 Long term that's the cheapest way to convert money [11-Mar-23 04:47 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Thanks! I'll send him a DM [12-Mar-23 12:00 AM] exeler#0000 Based on the idea from https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1044350203504889907/1084246926783946903 I made a simple bot [12-Mar-23 12:00 AM] exeler#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1084355205711278160/image.png?ex=6815083b&is=6813b6bb&hm=6c8fc44cfdebb06bc701199a7ff7c5563c98a9050c5526c1b0de2b68287d456e& [12-Mar-23 12:00 AM] exeler#0000 Absolutely 0 care was given for the UX so far, but it works ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [12-Mar-23 01:29 AM] exeler#0000 https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot Here's a link to the project if anyone who knows how to program wants to follow along. I'll probably be polishing this up tomorrow with some ci/cd and some actual attention to the UX ๐Ÿ˜… {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot Jordan Cottle / Prosperous Bot ยท GitLab GitLab.com https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [12-Mar-23 09:44 AM] hernanduer#0000 Looks cool [12-Mar-23 05:15 PM] jackinabox86#0000 love it; nice work [13-Mar-23 11:18 PM] exeler#0000 I made it prettier ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1085054430870773831/image.png?ex=6814f06f&is=68139eef&hm=0c2bd0019eb749682e15dc066e995a089276f93bd05cc190baafdb85f8c441c1& [14-Mar-23 09:23 AM] jackinabox86#0000 looking real good [14-Mar-23 09:54 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey? Anybody know how the 'receipt of materials' is calculated on FIN? [14-Mar-23 09:54 PM] emperyan11#0000 It perplexes me... [14-Mar-23 10:00 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1085396961785561159/image.png?ex=6814ddf1&is=68138c71&hm=aecc5c7ff3f25f5ce0ddeb0102dee8bd9dbf5999873c1ab008138638d269b685& [14-Mar-23 10:04 PM] churavis#0000 It's based on what you pay for stuff [14-Mar-23 10:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 Of these two figures, one should be the value of the goods you sell and the other the money you pay for the goods. [14-Mar-23 10:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 I prefer that receipt of materials is the value of the goods you sell. [14-Mar-23 11:00 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for the info [15-Mar-23 02:38 AM] Prosperous Bot#5834 Joined the server. {Reactions} yay (7) [15-Mar-23 02:54 AM] exeler#0000 :this: bot adds a new `/auction` command you all can use to sell bulk items that can be distributed evenly among people who want it. People who want some click a `Bid!` button, and once you're ready to send out contracts you click `Finish` and the bot will calculate how much each person should get and tell you the total price to plug in for the contracts. Fair warning though, the bot is really dumb right now and it'll forget about any auctions that were in progress if it restarts. (It's what you get for like 3 hours of work ๐Ÿ˜…) My next TODO item is to make that not happen any more. Since the bot is running on a dedicated server it shouldn't need to restart except for when I go to push the update. Ideally this reset happens exactly once (and I'll try and time it for when there's no auction going) unless something bad happens to the server I'm using. [16-Mar-23 09:39 AM] domicius#0000 Wooo, finally planned out my bases for Demeter and Griffonstone. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) [16-Mar-23 09:39 AM] domicius#0000 Been months I've wanted to do that. [16-Mar-23 09:39 AM] domicius#0000 Now just to ship to them ๐Ÿ™‚ [17-Mar-23 12:24 AM] martin1194#0000 384 MAI is available at ANT. 130/u send me contract if anyone need it [18-Mar-23 06:31 AM] domicius#0000 I love the new auction tool. Makes it really easy to sell stuff. My I just suggest that the creator adds the location as a parameter? It makes sense if we're posting stuff on the auction channel rather than in planet chat. [18-Mar-23 01:41 PM] exeler#0000 I actually added that to my to-do list almost as soon as people started using it ๐Ÿ˜… It should be a trivial change to make, I just need to tackle the persistence issue before I make any other changes to the bot first. Right now if I update the bot it'll forget about any currently running auctions ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} โค๏ธ [18-Mar-23 01:44 PM] exeler#0000 I've got a plan for how to fix it, just gotta find the time to do it. I'll probably get around to it tomorrow. [18-Mar-23 02:17 PM] syqel#0000 How is one supposed to deal with shipping contracts accepted but the shipper won't pay the shipping fees and won't communicate with you? [18-Mar-23 02:27 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Who is the shipper? Is it an old account? [18-Mar-23 03:45 PM] syqel#0000 Dover | GFG - 752 days [18-Mar-23 05:54 PM] domicius#0000 You can try the UFO channel on Discord, see if he's there. Otherwise he might just be very irregular. [18-Mar-23 05:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 his activity is C, he might not be on much [18-Mar-23 06:30 PM] syqel#0000 I tried UFO - His status was 'Do Not Disturb' but I messaged him anyways, saw his status change to cell phone for a minute then Disconnected - Probably woke him up Anyways the contracts are breached now because he didn't extend them - I don't think he cares - I'm sending him a direct contract for the goods for the price of the shipping plus warehouse fees - We'll see if he accepts it and if he does I'm going to fulfill whether he pays or not - If he doesn't then I'll have a bunch of AL to sell What I'm wondering now is if there is any recourse to report/blacklist him or something like that? [18-Mar-23 07:55 PM] domicius#0000 Nah. It's part of the game, after all [18-Mar-23 07:55 PM] domicius#0000 In theory his trustworthiness takes a ding, but it would need to be a lot of these. You can however block him if you like. [18-Mar-23 10:02 PM] syqel#0000 Well as long as everyone in OOG knows not to trust him now [19-Mar-23 01:23 PM] domicius#0000 That's why I rarely ship for strangers. [19-Mar-23 03:04 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 If he pirated, you can report him here: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/967041882217660456 [19-Mar-23 09:58 PM] yuen8241#0000 Actually, I never send it to anyone other than Corp [20-Mar-23 09:10 AM] syqel#0000 Dover finally got back to me - Turns out he was just taking a break over the weekend - AL is finally delivered {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Œ [20-Mar-23 02:11 PM] martin1194#0000 250 FIM at ANT. 1200@1 feel free to send contract. [20-Mar-23 08:06 PM] legosfreak#0000 I've finished up life stuff and have the time to start playing again. If I could get reinvited to the corp that would be awesome! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (2) [21-Mar-23 07:16 AM] jackinabox86#0000 Done [21-Mar-23 07:33 AM] domicius#0000 Does anyone make TCL for sale? [21-Mar-23 08:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 Some guy is trying to play water market again [21-Mar-23 08:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 Guess we'll see how well he holds up, only covering two markets so far [21-Mar-23 10:33 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 YAY more money! [21-Mar-23 10:34 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 That poor guy is about to get hit ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1087761085270081687/image.png?ex=6814e5f4&is=68139474&hm=ddf06873bb3d531a7f67688bc55b7ad32a92d94e491733d3dd4b2e29af6a1293& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [21-Mar-23 10:34 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Too bad I got 48 HYF's that need all my water :< [21-Mar-23 10:36 AM] churavis#0000 Who cares about your HYF when you have the chance to utterly demolish a water speculator? [21-Mar-23 10:36 AM] allocater#0000 Already dumped 30k on it ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Mar-23 10:36 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 Thanks for letting us know fam ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [21-Mar-23 10:37 AM] paxmagellanic#0000 I guess we should all make some 50k supply of water on ANT to just dump on these guys when they pop up. [21-Mar-23 10:37 AM] allocater#0000 whackamole ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} PepeLaugh (2) [21-Mar-23 10:43 AM] churavis#0000 He's only doing it in Moria and Antares so in a day or two traders are going to finish him off for sure [21-Mar-23 10:00 PM] syqel#0000 Why do I have so many rigs on Harmonia? What's the best place to get regular shipments of H2O? [21-Mar-23 10:00 PM] churavis#0000 Etherwind or SE-648b [21-Mar-23 10:04 PM] syqel#0000 Does/Could anyone make regular trips to Harmonia? Or even ANT? [21-Mar-23 10:13 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Ice Station Alpha has higher water than SE-648b and is two jumps closer to ANT, but it is also high pressure as well as being low temperature. [21-Mar-23 10:55 PM] syqel#0000 So are you offering regular installments of H2O? Or are you just saying I'd be better off trying to get fulfillments there? Could I get a 5000 unit ad filled? [21-Mar-23 11:45 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I'm not offering myself, but I'd say you have a good chance of getting a 5000 unit ad filled there [22-Mar-23 01:25 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I get H2O delivered regularly for 22/u at Harmonia if you're interested. [22-Mar-23 06:33 PM] syqel#0000 I'm interested! What kind of quantities are we talking about? I could use 100 a day just to start out. How often would it ship? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [22-Mar-23 09:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 it took me the last 3 hours to design the supply chain for 5 bases to create FFC and BR1, electronics are bananas [22-Mar-23 09:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 5 bases that don't exist except in Pruner [22-Mar-23 09:53 PM] churavis#0000 Do we need more FFC capacity? I though Allocater had that covered. [22-Mar-23 09:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was just looking at who has what, worst case I can sell it in other regions [22-Mar-23 09:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 and by the time this thing is actually built, idk what will stand where, it's almost pointless asking now [22-Mar-23 09:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 total investment is something like 20m, and my gen revenue is like 2m/week atm [22-Mar-23 09:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 just wanted to make a plan for something [23-Mar-23 10:17 AM] jackinabox86#0000 gen revenue? [23-Mar-23 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 that's a lot of glass engines! if it's GEN revenue [23-Mar-23 10:26 AM] jackinabox86#0000 yeah, I'd be very worried about producing a high volume of something there isn't a strong market for [23-Mar-23 12:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 general revenue I mean, like before costs are removed [23-Mar-23 12:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-Mar-23 06:05 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I've been looking at what I produce, and find I can shift into making DEC quite easily. Is this something that peeps here would find useful? Is it something worthwhile, or should I look elsewhere? [25-Mar-23 06:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can produce EPO or PG, which are easy to sell. [25-Mar-23 06:10 AM] yuen8241#0000 DEC has a small market and is generally used in shipbuilding or infrastructure upgrading. [25-Mar-23 06:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 Whether you produce PG, EPO or DEC, I will buy it. [25-Mar-23 06:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 @parisinspringtime [25-Mar-23 06:26 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 @yuen8241 You've bought EPO from me before and I'm now producing PG. I was just looking at whether PG + EPO -> DEC was worthwhile. The CX is dismal for DEC, which is why I asked. I have the capacity so I'm happy to produce to order if that is wanted. Else I'll stick to PG for the moment. [25-Mar-23 06:27 AM] yuen8241#0000 How many Pol do you have? [25-Mar-23 06:31 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 In total? 35 POL, with another 20 planned. I don't have any call for either EPO or PG at the moment, but that will change in the near future. [25-Mar-23 06:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 Are you interested in building a WPL base to produce some NL, since you can produce PG yourself? [25-Mar-23 06:43 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Unfortunately not. I already have a base on Heph producing for someone else that predates my joining OOG, and I have ZV-307e & SE-866e already earmarked. There aren't any Manufacturing planets left in ANT space. [26-Mar-23 09:09 PM] yuen8241#0000 What kind of consumables do you guys lack most? [26-Mar-23 09:30 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 RAT [26-Mar-23 09:32 PM] yuen8241#0000 I consume 1k RATs and 1k DWs a day. RATs are totally bought from HRT. If I produce them myself, I need HYF, otherwise the agricultural base will not be enough. [26-Mar-23 09:33 PM] yuen8241#0000 A RIG base and a HYF base can support the daily production of 1k RAT+1k DW, while maintaining an INC base. [26-Mar-23 09:34 PM] yuen8241#0000 Considering that permit is in short supply, but ships can be bought without limit, this scheme will become more and more attractive as the price of RAT rises. [27-Mar-23 06:18 AM] domicius#0000 Hmm. Fast or slow INC? [27-Mar-23 07:55 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1089895534384394270/image.png?ex=6814c0d0&is=68136f50&hm=2f058c33968bd4c9779a466b817fdb2339ac6a31028ab0b8d873c4c05c3958b5& [27-Mar-23 11:42 AM] exeler#0000 If you're going all in, throw in a Demeter base for GRN and MAI. I run 50/50 on Nascent with the HCP+GRN and HCP+MAI recipe. I'm building a stockpile of all 3 there now and if I needed to I can turn on the fast fast recipe and make ridiculous amounts of C in a short period. [27-Mar-23 11:20 PM] draconisdomini#0000 COF. I need to actually work out if the amount I spend on COF is worth it [28-Mar-23 08:08 AM] yuen8241#0000 Most cases are worth it. [28-Mar-23 10:05 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 On my Elon (PG) base, COF needs to be over 5k before the profit of having COF is negated by the cost. [28-Mar-23 11:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 why would a chemistry base care about COF? [28-Mar-23 11:32 AM] domicius#0000 Productivity [28-Mar-23 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh, yeah, duh, I was reading that as "COF needs to be X for me to (for some reason) make COF" [28-Mar-23 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 my bad [28-Mar-23 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 actually that's how I read the whole conversation, hah. I'm now realizing we're talking about _supplying_ COF. Yeah, it's pretty much always worth it. [28-Mar-23 04:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 anyone know the equation for building decay? Trying to factor in the cost in my spreadsheet [28-Mar-23 04:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 not the loss of production, but the cost in repairs [28-Mar-23 04:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm guessing it's a % of the mats needed to create the building initially [28-Mar-23 04:47 PM] churavis#0000 It's the cost of a new building divided by 180 and rounded up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Mar-23 04:48 PM] churavis#0000 Per day, that is [29-Mar-23 02:12 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Is the BRA command broken for you guys? I get action succeeded but nothing gets removed from my inventory nor repaired. [29-Mar-23 02:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 haven't actually used it yet [29-Mar-23 02:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 you're not seeing any repairs work? [29-Mar-23 02:13 PM] allocater#0000 happens sometimes [29-Mar-23 02:14 PM] domicius#0000 Didn't even know you could do that with BRA. Awesome! [29-Mar-23 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've used it a few times, and it's been working fine for me [29-Mar-23 02:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 I saw something about the materials not being accurate, but it looks like that was giving them an error, not success [29-Mar-23 02:25 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 Cheers, ill post in the help channel on discord. [31-Mar-23 04:44 PM] gl4ucon#0000 is it just me or are CX prices bugged out? [01-Apr-23 09:13 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1091727053075787797/image.png?ex=6814d30c&is=6813818c&hm=b81761ab2ab55eb0cf88a7b95d49be484b9324b779e251424ad508d02384262a& [01-Apr-23 09:14 AM] yuen8241#0000 Deimos is close to full capacity, so those who don't have a base there can consider building one in advance. [01-Apr-23 09:15 AM] churavis#0000 When I started Deimos was more than full, I had to wait a while for enough of the Steam surge new players to drop off before I could build a base there [01-Apr-23 09:16 AM] yuen8241#0000 Really? I have the impression that deimos always has 50+ vacancies. [01-Apr-23 09:17 AM] churavis#0000 No, only for that past half year or so [01-Apr-23 09:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 You mean when the game was just launched by steam, right? [01-Apr-23 09:17 AM] churavis#0000 Yes [01-Apr-23 09:17 AM] yuen8241#0000 There were a lot of new players at that time, but this was not the norm. [01-Apr-23 10:03 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1091920876338946118/image.png?ex=6814decf&is=68138d4f&hm=d9a6d6331221e52a45a1a3192e0837935cc6b3b2858162462cd7b20a1b313f18& [01-Apr-23 10:04 PM] yuen8241#0000 Shipbuilding really cost me a lot of money to buy raw materials. In fact, most factories were built before. [01-Apr-23 10:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 So, uh, I've been hanging around for a while now, but I'm still not actually a member of the corp [01-Apr-23 11:11 PM] yuen8241#0000 If you want to join Corp, you should fill out the form.๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Apr-23 11:13 PM] draconisdomini#0000 There's a form? [01-Apr-23 11:14 PM] yuen8241#0000 Haven't you been watching welcome Channel? [01-Apr-23 11:15 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I don't see a form, or do you mean the base spreadsheet? [01-Apr-23 11:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1091939142541262929/image.png?ex=6814efd2&is=68139e52&hm=d4ff4ddf2fcd16ee5fcddfcca70f933c06cc1643a11600c31189facb0c3e213a& [01-Apr-23 11:16 PM] yuen8241#0000 I think the minimum requirement for our members is to fill in these two pieces of information. [01-Apr-23 11:17 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Ah ok, I'll do that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Apr-23 11:45 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Filled out the info for my bases [02-Apr-23 12:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 You have been invited. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [02-Apr-23 12:06 AM] draconisdomini#0000 Thanks! [02-Apr-23 09:24 AM] churavis#0000 Should I accept it? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1092092179989672037/image.png?ex=6814d599&is=68138419&hm=acb6828be8dadf5f163d8ae6c27a448b0646cca2442eeeaec95b6cf606512450& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [02-Apr-23 09:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 Should just be free money [02-Apr-23 10:00 AM] churavis#0000 Have you ever accepted a 0 item contract? [02-Apr-23 10:04 AM] yuen8241#0000 I haven't met it before, and I just want to accept an election task. It is said that it can give me 50 points. [02-Apr-23 10:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 No... But provisioning 0 should be easy ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Apr-23 10:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 Yes Yuen, it does [02-Apr-23 10:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 There's also a ship building one [02-Apr-23 10:05 AM] yuen8241#0000 I have completed three shipbuilding missions. [02-Apr-23 10:08 AM] churavis#0000 I accepted it and it just let me provision it no problem {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช (2) [02-Apr-23 06:47 PM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1092233975000465499/image.png?ex=6814b0e8&is=68135f68&hm=0f2fbb17aac06f1a173a2ef9c1ac7b2f03e55fa021646cda3fa149b772ba5e4c& [02-Apr-23 06:48 PM] rune_242#0000 DLR is still a member and he's collecting dividends [03-Apr-23 09:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1092448822321483866/image.png?ex=6814d03f&is=68137ebf&hm=c43a678f87fefd35ecdc22d28df47bf2381e960a5a6e11624197f19438523715& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Apr-23 09:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 @allocater The water troll found our A1A.๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Apr-23 09:30 AM] yuen8241#0000 @churavis @mrtcsmith @gl4ucon You guys can move CLR, ELP, ECA and SD to A1A and leave phobos to SE, DRS and SL. [03-Apr-23 09:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you guys invest two or three permit in phobos, [03-Apr-23 09:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 A1A is really a good place to produce electronic non-software products. It is too close to CX, and it is very convenient to transport things like CU. [03-Apr-23 05:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I reported a 0 item contract and they are fixing it. They wanted 0 CBL from me. You can complete the contracts, they work just fine ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Apr-23 05:47 AM] erklein#0000 Iโ€™m going to be rather unavailable for the next few weeks. If I have a contract open with people, Iโ€™ll be doing my best to fulfill it but might take some extra time to fulfill. Also, keep an eye on Harmonia; Iโ€™ll be doing my best to keep it stocked but it might get away from me [04-Apr-23 06:54 AM] yuen8241#0000 Someone needs to keep an eye on harmonia. I have no base there now. [04-Apr-23 07:32 AM] domicius#0000 I wouldn't have the first clue what to do. If someone could walk me thru it I can buy stuff at the CX to throw in. [04-Apr-23 07:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1092789790707028068/image.png?ex=6814bc4d&is=68136acd&hm=2283bcb0a669d1c21c271b56b495e7c89b845073efc0a9db9734208dfc40383b& [04-Apr-23 07:36 AM] yuen8241#0000 Make sure SST is full, and then make sure COGC is full. [04-Apr-23 08:01 AM] domicius#0000 OK, I'll take that on. [04-Apr-23 08:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 Harmonia's main maintenance pressure comes from the huge PIO population. [04-Apr-23 08:24 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1092801999147376692/image.png?ex=6814c7ab&is=6813762b&hm=8a94a9dee9aa35b7113bf161551c96aa5a0dfedfe48b07c2fc57797d3660f30b& [04-Apr-23 08:25 AM] yuen8241#0000 Harmonia's SST level is too low. [04-Apr-23 08:39 AM] rune_242#0000 I can send a ship tomorrow to upgrade it a couple levels [04-Apr-23 08:49 AM] rune_242#0000 is there somebody making HE3? [04-Apr-23 08:50 AM] yuen8241#0000 Hernanduer {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Apr-23 09:01 AM] yuen8241#0000 If you upgrade SSF by two levels, I don't think it is necessary to provide SUN. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Apr-23 10:58 AM] domicius#0000 I have no idea what any of that means. So, I pump stuff into the COGC and the SST? Anything else? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… (2) [04-Apr-23 04:43 PM] erklein#0000 Harmonia has been doing fine with the current level of SST fully stocked. It will probably need another level as it continues to grow, but itโ€™s honestly easier for me to manage with fully supplying it. What I meant by keeping an eye on it is making sure the COG is supplied (and maybe the SST if supplies drop low) [04-Apr-23 04:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah pioneers are pretty easy to get in unlimited numbers. no open jobs is a success to me [05-Apr-23 10:46 AM] rune_242#0000 I forgot to bring TRU.... [05-Apr-23 10:46 AM] rune_242#0000 And BTA๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข (2) [06-Apr-23 05:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 My total assets finally exceeded 100 million. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1093483245187907646/image.png?ex=68149f21&is=68134da1&hm=e3b13c02c5975fcbf70c9ce37c74aebcc6e216d64d59116dca814f6a3439075f& [06-Apr-23 05:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 A large number of products I produce stay in my warehouse at zero price.๐Ÿ˜… [06-Apr-23 06:34 AM] domicius#0000 I've paid the BTA and TRU {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [06-Apr-23 01:00 PM] jackinabox86#0000 Sorry to do it, but I'm going to have to step away from the game. I'll likely sell everything I have over the next couple weeks and then send out whatever cash I have to active members of the corp. If there's anything I produce that you'd like in particular or other needs, please let me know. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (6) [06-Apr-23 01:00 PM] jackinabox86#0000 I have very much appreciated playing with all of you and growing from one base, two ships, to a much larger operation! {Reactions} โค๏ธ (9) [06-Apr-23 01:07 PM] domicius#0000 It's been an honour [06-Apr-23 11:18 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Seems like ANT is ripe for more ALE production. The CX is out [06-Apr-23 11:57 PM] hernanduer#0000 I've been getting 2k+ for the last week on my ALE sales, which is insane when you consider the total production cost is <400 [06-Apr-23 11:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm pretty sure it's because our guy with all the FER left [07-Apr-23 03:19 AM] yuen8241#0000 KOWA and I pushed the price of ALE below 1k before. [07-Apr-23 03:20 AM] yuen8241#0000 I went to produce GIN later. [07-Apr-23 03:22 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1093812987430703174/image.png?ex=6815297a&is=6813d7fa&hm=e962087e3cf388c165a16b8c635c57510cdda65fbaecde8e62f0f763a8b518f3& [07-Apr-23 03:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 In a few days, I can cover ANT's trading volume of ALE by myself. [07-Apr-23 03:31 AM] yuen8241#0000 I don't even have an ALE in ANT's warehouse now [07-Apr-23 03:32 AM] yuen8241#0000 My FER is in BEN area [07-Apr-23 01:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 I named A2b to Vulcan ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– [07-Apr-23 01:47 PM] churavis#0000 But you could have named it something like SmeltyMcSmeltFace [07-Apr-23 01:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 such a bad name [07-Apr-23 01:58 PM] churavis#0000 If you had come to us first then we could have helped you choose a better one {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ƒ [07-Apr-23 02:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 at least I didn't name it after a billionaire {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [07-Apr-23 02:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 so I'm safe there [07-Apr-23 02:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Vulcan is pretty good [07-Apr-23 02:29 PM] churavis#0000 As good as SmeltyMcSmeltFace? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” (2) ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [07-Apr-23 03:16 PM] domicius#0000 Vulcan is the logical choice {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡จ ๐Ÿ‡ผ ๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡พ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ฉ โ• โ–ถ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ–– [08-Apr-23 10:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1094462103533916170/image.png?ex=6814e303&is=68139183&hm=5d6ce6136720a48dbe7bda5efa734462fbd188493da25e89121f00aa10bd89c8& [08-Apr-23 10:21 PM] yuen8241#0000 My 22nd base.๐ŸŽ‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [09-Apr-23 03:37 AM] rune_242#0000 how are you only allocating 4 space? [09-Apr-23 03:37 AM] rune_242#0000 a base is 25 space right? [09-Apr-23 03:40 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 That is the remaining space? [09-Apr-23 03:41 AM] rune_242#0000 ohhhhhhh๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [09-Apr-23 10:06 AM] yuen8241#0000 The long loss is over.๐Ÿ˜† {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1094639584970821793/image.png?ex=6814df8e&is=68138e0e&hm=183b187a5dbc41065129708fa51a28e58042a647bbc016e909ac704f579b70b2& [10-Apr-23 10:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 wow, with internal W prices, I'm getting a LFE cost basis of 101k [10-Apr-23 10:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's some insane upside at CX prices [10-Apr-23 10:02 AM] churavis#0000 Inflation is out of control [10-Apr-23 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, RATs refuse to drop below 100, I'm kinda surprised that production just hasn't caught up yet [10-Apr-23 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 crops don't reflect that increased cost so idk what's going on [10-Apr-23 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 besides inflation [10-Apr-23 10:07 AM] churavis#0000 Nobody is selling crops because it just makes more sense to convert them into RAT yourself [10-Apr-23 10:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 true, but the people selling crops are still selling them like RATs are at 90 and not 130 [10-Apr-23 12:35 PM] exeler#0000 It could be that nobody is buying the crops from the CX. I think any one base processing a meaningful volume of crops will dry out the CX completely so nobody really relies on the CX for basic crops. [10-Apr-23 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, true [13-Apr-23 04:01 PM] zipatsu#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1096178473439068261/image.png?ex=68148a02&is=68133882&hm=d20eb0b7710b96a45bd94f5bcc215e015a7adea45a196cac6bd89ebbe92f9b86& {Reactions} ๐ŸŒฒ [13-Apr-23 04:02 PM] rune_242#0000 you can buy all the MAI you want on demeter for 110/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Apr-23 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Well, that makes sense, you can't turn HCP into RAT ๐Ÿ˜† [14-Apr-23 09:59 AM] yuen8241#0000 @seraphx2 You just quit Corp, don't you play anymore? [14-Apr-23 10:11 AM] seraphx2#0000 Yeah. I have decided to stop playing. Just other responsibilities have gotten in the way that are more interesting to me to spend my free time on and having to worry about PrUn deadlines and restocking and all that jazz is getting in the way. [14-Apr-23 10:12 AM] seraphx2#0000 I have given allocater all of my broken down building resources and transferred 7.8 mil to him for the corp. [14-Apr-23 10:13 AM] seraphx2#0000 It is definitely an interesting game. Had fun for a little while, especially working on PMMG Beautifier a bit with PiBoy. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (4) [14-Apr-23 10:13 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's a pity that you quit. You are a good member. [14-Apr-23 10:15 AM] seraphx2#0000 haha thanks. everyone here was really cool to work with. maybe i come back in the future, but for now, other things grab my interest. good luck all! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (6) [18-Apr-23 03:32 AM] treebear0235#0000 Joined the server. [18-Apr-23 06:48 AM] yuen8241#0000 @treebear0235What's going on? Why are there two tree? [18-Apr-23 08:00 AM] treebear0235#0000 alt account {Reactions} โ“ [18-Apr-23 08:37 AM] churavis#0000 Why do you need an alt account on here? [19-Apr-23 06:20 PM] martin1194#0000 I was not online this discord account for few day before. {Reactions} โ“ (2) [20-Apr-23 10:16 AM] rune_242#0000 what's the best planet to produce fuel? [20-Apr-23 10:52 AM] churavis#0000 It depends on whether you want to optimize productivity or logistics. If productivity, there is a fuel COGC planet near Griffon. [20-Apr-23 11:18 AM] rune_242#0000 are you sure it's near griffon? [20-Apr-23 11:29 AM] churavis#0000 LS 746B [20-Apr-23 01:51 PM] habix3956#0000 Anyone selling H somewhere? [21-Apr-23 12:50 AM] martin1194#0000 looking for H seller too [21-Apr-23 01:55 AM] rune_242#0000 you can buy all the H you want as long you pick it up on KI-401d {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [21-Apr-23 07:53 AM] martin1194#0000 looking for N and LST seller [24-Apr-23 06:19 AM] neth_havoc#0000 I can sell you some 300 LST on Nike. [24-Apr-23 06:19 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Looking for AR [24-Apr-23 07:47 AM] martin1194#0000 what price is it? I need 250 LST more. [24-Apr-23 08:00 AM] neth_havoc#0000 60/u {Reactions} goodluck [24-Apr-23 08:30 AM] martin1194#0000 sorry. forgot set amount {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Apr-23 07:15 AM] yuen8241#0000 Who invited him? [25-Apr-23 07:16 AM] domicius#0000 Not I. [25-Apr-23 08:40 AM] hernanduer#0000 I guess he just came back? [25-Apr-23 08:46 AM] yuen8241#0000 He is a friend of rune and played this game six months ago. [25-Apr-23 10:19 AM] allocater#0000 does anyone know how to make a backup of the server-icon? I want to try a new one. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ•โ€๐Ÿฆบ [25-Apr-23 10:32 AM] allocater#0000 best we got is this, but it's only 96pixel https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/854795108720443393/931881c7b8640d444d8bcf902d04bd9e.webp {Embed} https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/854795108720443393/931881c7b8640d444d8bcf902d04bd9e.webp https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/LCSOFJJEChl0UzaG0e44eo_ArtCJtP1EGfcHTF2o__k/https/cdn.discordapp.com/icons/854795108720443393/931881c7b8640d444d8bcf902d04bd9e.webp [25-Apr-23 10:54 AM] churavis#0000 Who made it originally? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [25-Apr-23 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 I did [25-Apr-23 01:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah, welcome back @Deleted User ! ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Apr-23 01:17 PM] Deleted User#0000 Hey [25-Apr-23 01:18 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100485908886724658/Pic-transformed.webp?ex=68150c5e&is=6813bade&hm=782e75758c9002812ef652d5e5f4f1465d16789e5f86220641c4de987e9dc5d5& [25-Apr-23 01:18 PM] churavis#0000 It's good but it would be better without any letters [25-Apr-23 01:18 PM] Deleted User#0000 That's the old one [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100486152097628261/LogoMakerCa-1682411501864.png?ex=68150c98&is=6813bb18&hm=1da1429059f2dd3b420a04db6ab9977ae51647a24b6916b4b65b0ff17b091da5& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100486152412209202/LogoMakerCa-1682427719217.png?ex=68150c98&is=6813bb18&hm=c32f7dd5f3057fed587095721d97134ac6256268bc073c2ded4f50d1a2ebd45d& [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 These are some new examples [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 those are classy ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ok.... [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 we should get t-shirts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) this [25-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ahaa [25-Apr-23 01:20 PM] churavis#0000 I don't know that I want to have to explain this game to everyone that asks where my t-shirt is from [25-Apr-23 01:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I like the orange one [25-Apr-23 01:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 the green one looks slimey [25-Apr-23 01:20 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye [25-Apr-23 01:21 PM] balbar#0000 yeah, also the orange looks kinda like a sun, which fits the space theme a bit better in my opinion [25-Apr-23 01:21 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye. I can make another one [25-Apr-23 01:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 maybe a red one [25-Apr-23 01:23 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100487246269927515/LogoMakerCa-1682446990989.png?ex=68150d9d&is=6813bc1d&hm=09019e160bbbaa3e0af590e978cee6d6b46cfe3cd8a6d7777ae97c53ea753aab& [25-Apr-23 01:23 PM] Deleted User#0000 This one is red [25-Apr-23 01:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 But I can go Bright of dark [25-Apr-23 01:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100487673849847808/LogoMakerCa-1682447095868.png?ex=68150e03&is=6813bc83&hm=bafb01349153ea121fdf6c013465f480a232e263778db93cbc594ba689eaf151& [25-Apr-23 01:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 I think the orange one is the best [25-Apr-23 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 of those, yah [25-Apr-23 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was thinking more a dark, sun kind of red [25-Apr-23 01:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ok [25-Apr-23 01:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://www.indystar.com/gcdn/-mm-/c09b0a9a5c6ce55ee8ba6f14acbd2b852cb120b4/c=0-217-996-780/local/-/media/2017/09/05/INGroup/Indianapolis/636402011606632000-redsun.jpg?width=660&height=374&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp {Embed} https://www.indystar.com/gcdn/-mm-/c09b0a9a5c6ce55ee8ba6f14acbd2b852cb120b4/c=0-217-996-780/local/-/media/2017/09/05/INGroup/Indianapolis/636402011606632000-redsun.jpg?width=660&height=374&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Ce__YUJj9KA5qRecKBU9I6FPb71n-em_3Nc-lYAePzM/%3Fwidth%3D660%26height%3D374%26fit%3Dcrop%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp/https/www.indystar.com/gcdn/-mm-/c09b0a9a5c6ce55ee8ba6f14acbd2b852cb120b4/c%3D0-217-996-780/local/-/media/2017/09/05/INGroup/Indianapolis/636402011606632000-redsun.jpg [25-Apr-23 01:27 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100488210133569647/LogoMakerCa-1682447222661.png?ex=68150e83&is=6813bd03&hm=76b01428990cc53dc009b2ca39425c354da1ece8fd5a70dff1b422e805e2a354& [25-Apr-23 01:27 PM] Deleted User#0000 Well that's to red [25-Apr-23 01:28 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100488554762743869/LogoMakerCa-1682447308810.png?ex=68150ed5&is=6813bd55&hm=041dbbe282138ad56fd0cd2930486eee8e5f62bdcc395a6c67d6032c0863d071& [25-Apr-23 01:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 I kinda like the more solid color / simple gradients for the fill on the planet. Reads well, especially when it's small [25-Apr-23 01:39 PM] Deleted User#0000 Yeb [25-Apr-23 01:39 PM] Deleted User#0000 So the orange [25-Apr-23 01:40 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100491427592544377/LogoMakerCa-1682427719217.png?ex=68151182&is=6813c002&hm=0e60d3d6829b734bf36da43de6b012726a6d2a9ad589031845c1338d6342c8d3& [25-Apr-23 01:40 PM] rune_242#0000 can you remake this one but with the white turned black? [25-Apr-23 01:40 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye [25-Apr-23 01:42 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100491941810028665/LogoMakerCa-1682448115513.png?ex=681511fd&is=6813c07d&hm=0ce6c6f3f37d5babbc0a7541d0134b2b15914cc308704e2c7352d531126f67dd& [25-Apr-23 01:42 PM] Deleted User#0000 I can do another background [25-Apr-23 01:42 PM] rune_242#0000 I like the last 2 the most [25-Apr-23 01:43 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ye [25-Apr-23 02:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah that red is a good color, Archiel's right with the simpler palette {Reactions} eyes [25-Apr-23 03:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 Random thought but what if one of the little orbs is the game's icon? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100516597577298070/image.png?ex=681528f3&is=6813d773&hm=dea68fb7646546e65c2879a6a788bacfb444f818b9d443d2b4e37a3a89954a44& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100516597799583754/image.png?ex=681528f3&is=6813d773&hm=a8de1263b069fe1ef4f2e63dccd160def087181efbac2542a5e67a9d570f9524& [25-Apr-23 03:29 PM] Deleted User#0000 Looks nice. We can use it, but its not our own "corp logo design". [25-Apr-23 06:10 PM] exeler#0000 I'd totally sign up for a T-shirt if there's some being made for exactly this reason ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Apr-23 06:19 PM] exeler#0000 I really like space pattern on this one. [25-Apr-23 06:22 PM] exeler#0000 I think it's close enough to a solid color that when it is small it might as well be. But if we blow it up in a bigger context, the little details are super nice. [26-Apr-23 12:16 AM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Apr-23 12:11 PM] allocater#0000 Which one is the winner? [26-Apr-23 12:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 I guess One of those {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100831820486017186/LogoMakerCa-1682448115513.png?ex=6814fd06&is=6813ab86&hm=fe0d1b9869903c795b60a802f9531374856523ea439efbd41654d2f821eb0eee& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1100831821098389665/LogoMakerCa-1682427719217.png?ex=6814fd06&is=6813ab86&hm=efb414bc8123b4be6e313617afb622e5c7db12a26a37a26d46a734e53f6bae6e& {Reactions} ๐ŸŸ  (8) ๐Ÿ”ด (6) [26-Apr-23 12:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 Black one is nice. [26-Apr-23 12:13 PM] allocater#0000 vote orange or red on it to see which one wins [26-Apr-23 12:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 W8 put a red one also. [26-Apr-23 12:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 You are the leader [26-Apr-23 12:28 PM] churavis#0000 Can you post a version of them squared and as small as they'll be in the sidebar? It's important we can see them as they will appear most often {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (2) [27-Apr-23 11:28 AM] allocater#0000 both are tied, if I don't vote for both ๐Ÿ˜„ so keep voting! [27-Apr-23 12:20 PM] jackinabox86#0000 who is RoboMD? [27-Apr-23 12:20 PM] jackinabox86#0000 hard to fulfill an auction when the name doesn't match a player [27-Apr-23 12:20 PM] churavis#0000 Domicius in game {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Apr-23 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hmm, the bot needs to figure out the channel nicknames. More feature requests ๐Ÿ˜† [27-Apr-23 01:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm bored, where's that github at? haha [27-Apr-23 02:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot managed to find it here ^^ {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot Jordan Cottle / Prosperous Bot ยท GitLab GitLab.com https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [27-Apr-23 02:50 PM] paxmagellanic#0000 It's owned by Exeler / Terrascape - he made it for us ^^ [27-Apr-23 06:46 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Has anyone else stopped supplying COF to some/all bases? [27-Apr-23 06:48 PM] churavis#0000 No, I make it myself and even have some surplus that I use for Phobos upkeep. I can supply small amounts in an emergency [27-Apr-23 06:49 PM] churavis#0000 You could always put a base on Norwick and make it yourself [27-Apr-23 06:50 PM] churavis#0000 You kind of have to make your own FP base eventually as the market is just too unreliable [27-Apr-23 06:57 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah I have considered a multi permit etherwind base to make DW and RAT, those are bigger opportunities than COF but I also have to consider the cost of not using COF at all [27-Apr-23 06:58 PM] exeler#0000 https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/1 This one is actually the first ever feature request ๐Ÿ˜… I've just not added anything to this since I first cobbled it together. {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/1 Bot doesn't put nickname into auction bidders list (#1) ยท Issues ยท ... It uses the raw username for the user, so if a user's propserous name is different from their discord username the auction results are harder to use. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [27-Apr-23 06:59 PM] churavis#0000 If a production line isn't adding enough value to make COF worth it then you should consider restructuring or getting rid of it as that's a really low bar even at the high prices for COF on the CX [27-Apr-23 07:04 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah probably but if I was to go to the CX and attempt to start buying the ALO output of Nascent, CUO output of KI-840c or BOR output of Electronica then I would have other problems [27-Apr-23 07:04 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101297780133203998/image.png?ex=6814b4bb&is=6813633b&hm=732e420f296ccd71432d860004f6aabbc40f56a654cc2e8988d5af4827d5b20a& [27-Apr-23 07:15 PM] exeler#0000 If you're actually interested I'm happy to accept contributions. There's a few issues already open including the ones mentioned already. The discord tag thing especially should be a pretty simple fix. [27-Apr-23 07:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 I've actually already got the nickname change done [27-Apr-23 07:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm working on the savefile then I'll make a PR [27-Apr-23 07:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 does gitlab do PRs? [27-Apr-23 07:15 PM] churavis#0000 Well that's why I said production line instead of base, because even if mining ALO isn't worth it, the whole AL line is worth it and all the things made with AL even more [27-Apr-23 07:16 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, they're called Merge Requests instead of Pull Requests with gitlab, but it's the same concept. [27-Apr-23 07:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah, right, a better name if you ask me [27-Apr-23 07:19 PM] exeler#0000 I agree. For the savefile I was planning on using an sqlite database since I'm pretty savvy with database stuff and python has a built in sqlite driver. Makes an easy transition to something like MySQL if the bot ever does get some heavier use (or a web UI frontend if we ever want an Ooga Booga webpage that is integrated with the bot) [27-Apr-23 07:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was just leaving it in memory and making a json savefile ๐Ÿ˜… but it looks like the routed bucket endpoints associated with hikari need to be saved too or else the buttons are useless after a restart [27-Apr-23 07:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 since each Bid and Finish button gets its own special endpoint [27-Apr-23 07:34 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, Hikari has some magic going on with how it associates the objects with the messages. I picked the library up randomly just for this so I'm definitely not an expert on how to use it lol. [27-Apr-23 07:39 PM] exeler#0000 The json savefile as a stop gap is a good idea though. It'll make it so the app can be redeployed without wiping everything, which is the biggest problem right now ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Apr-23 07:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, lol [27-Apr-23 07:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think I found an example in the miru code on how to make this work, I'll see if I can get an MR tonight maybe [27-Apr-23 07:55 PM] exeler#0000 That'd be super cool. I've got some work projects wrapping up so I'll have some more bandwidth for code things. I was hoping to get back to this bot and make it nice. [27-Apr-23 09:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 @exeler opened MR https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/merge_requests/3 {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/merge_requests/3 Resolve issues #1, #2 and #11 (!3) ยท Merge requests ยท Jordan Cottle... Use server nicknames rather than discord usernames. Save/load rudimentary JSON functionality available. Add required location parameter to the auction command. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [27-Apr-23 09:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 it uses nicknames, adds a (required) location parameter to the auction command, and enables save/load. I tested it all with my personal server, so feel free to test it more thoroughly ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Apr-23 09:47 PM] exeler#0000 That's awesome! I took a look through it on my phone and it looks nice! I'll give a test and merge it in once I get on my PC. [27-Apr-23 11:29 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks to @hernanduer the bot has some cool new features ! `/auction` now has a field for the `location` Auctions also won't be forgotten about if the bot restarts. Completed auction results will also now list out our display names rather than our raw usernames. {Reactions} thanks ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [28-Apr-23 02:05 AM] Deleted User#0000 so it will be the orange one XD [28-Apr-23 08:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 Hey @allocater what's that extension you're using to change the icons for the materials? I'm thinking of adding some of the fio functionality to an extension and it'd be great to have a starting place [28-Apr-23 08:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 Considering fio seems to be up as often as it's down these days [28-Apr-23 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's this: https://pastebin.com/aWe7XJ7a {Embed} https://pastebin.com/aWe7XJ7a PrUnIcon v0.7 - Pastebin.com Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time. [28-Apr-23 11:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah, lame it's an existing extension [28-Apr-23 11:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 and chrome ๐Ÿคฎ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [28-Apr-23 12:45 PM] allocater#0000 haha yeah, icons are just done with CSS, no code to learn from [28-Apr-23 12:47 PM] allocater#0000 I set the orange icon. Now we will have trouble finding the tab for a while ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Apr-23 12:48 PM] churavis#0000 I think it would be better without the letters as the icon could be bigger [28-Apr-23 12:55 PM] allocater#0000 I did some cropping, but it needs a new version [28-Apr-23 01:09 PM] Deleted User#0000 Sec [28-Apr-23 01:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101571578828951703/LogoMakerCa-1682705484823.png?ex=68150afa&is=6813b97a&hm=3b27e86c7057ce76f01ff5b09b3f3965fbbe3cb9a795956a1c4bf9550d5f3442& [28-Apr-23 01:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 This is better... [28-Apr-23 01:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 Try this one [28-Apr-23 01:12 PM] churavis#0000 Why do we even need the letters? [28-Apr-23 01:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 Idk [28-Apr-23 01:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 The original one had letters [28-Apr-23 01:13 PM] allocater#0000 that's the max zoom I could do [28-Apr-23 01:13 PM] Deleted User#0000 hmm would it be nice to only have a planet? [28-Apr-23 01:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 without the letters? [28-Apr-23 01:14 PM] allocater#0000 lets try it [28-Apr-23 01:15 PM] churavis#0000 The shadow is slightly off center I just noticed [28-Apr-23 01:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101572342456516679/LogoMakerCa-1682705685451.png?ex=68150bb0&is=6813ba30&hm=13a92e08480c01bb940e7d3a21460d6eb11a5344b00ca88730705929b99be4bf& [28-Apr-23 01:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 This is a bit empty [28-Apr-23 01:15 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‚ [28-Apr-23 01:17 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101572885535010917/LogoMakerCa-1682705826649.png?ex=68150c32&is=6813bab2&hm=9276ad86dcb5c648847986cacb8acabc26f90affcacf2bc94dc99f17f3d40055& [28-Apr-23 01:17 PM] Deleted User#0000 This is another colour [28-Apr-23 01:18 PM] churavis#0000 The shadow is still off center from the planet [28-Apr-23 01:18 PM] Deleted User#0000 Hmm [28-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 Better? [28-Apr-23 01:19 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101573354906996888/LogoMakerCa-1682705931422.png?ex=68150ca2&is=6813bb22&hm=4210bf94264d0944be06e1112a2ea0e02cf5ab7c5ca1081994ef0ce27d9f3a62& [28-Apr-23 01:24 PM] allocater#0000 done, check it out [28-Apr-23 01:24 PM] Deleted User#0000 It looks nice [28-Apr-23 01:25 PM] Deleted User#0000 only the background is a bit brown [28-Apr-23 01:28 PM] churavis#0000 The black on brown doesn't look very good in the small icon [28-Apr-23 01:28 PM] Deleted User#0000 Yep [28-Apr-23 01:31 PM] allocater#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Apr-23 01:31 PM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101576412021915768/image.png?ex=68150f7a&is=6813bdfa&hm=4c756f4a050c38008faff29bbafaf4959d827766cb8d85ebfad173fd0c7b180b& [28-Apr-23 01:31 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜‚ [28-Apr-23 01:31 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101576545165918209/LogoMakerCa-1682706568825.png?ex=68150f9a&is=6813be1a&hm=992f087251e4f8a5511bdf10d647f93372d3d6bb5fd31c8af50ee840dad09efe& [28-Apr-23 01:32 PM] Deleted User#0000 or darker? [28-Apr-23 01:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 weird glitch [28-Apr-23 01:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 I like the white, I think it'll be good in small size [28-Apr-23 01:32 PM] Deleted User#0000 @allocater what a nice picture. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคช [28-Apr-23 01:39 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Maybe we should take the red planet if we use a white background? [28-Apr-23 01:39 PM] Deleted User#0000 XD [28-Apr-23 01:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 or the orange one, I think that's what the consensus was ๐Ÿค” [28-Apr-23 01:41 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1101578856864940224/LogoMakerCa-1682707209386.png?ex=681511c1&is=6813c041&hm=b349f5bb75de1949772d5e5e9d060852933f681fb74e6db147ef586ec3568556& [28-Apr-23 11:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 The paper texture kinda gives me "a kid's drawing" vibes actually [28-Apr-23 11:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 Especially when shrunk down to server icon size [28-Apr-23 11:56 PM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‚ [29-Apr-23 05:20 AM] allocater#0000 should we get one of those corp recruitment channels on the UFO discord for advertisement? But without discord link and contact via PM. [29-Apr-23 07:36 AM] churavis#0000 We should probably designate a new CRO first [29-Apr-23 12:54 PM] sage42#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (2) [29-Apr-23 12:58 PM] sage42#0000 Live long and prosper ๐Ÿ––, how is the weekend? [29-Apr-23 01:00 PM] allocater#0000 just chilling ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Apr-23 01:52 PM] sage42#0000 Iโ€™m starting to plan what to do with my second base, what raw ressource is currently needed most? [29-Apr-23 01:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 Best way to make money is to build on the chain you started [29-Apr-23 01:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 So agricultural, make food, or make chemicals that's pretty good [29-Apr-23 02:03 PM] allocater#0000 FP base on Norwick could be interesting, even if you don't have enough crops and water, I think we have enough, and also HER, MTP, etc that can be converted at a good profit [29-Apr-23 02:06 PM] allocater#0000 do you know prunner yet? There you can play around with base plans: https://github.com/Jacudibu/PRUNner/releases {Embed} https://github.com/Jacudibu/PRUNner/releases Releases ยท Jacudibu/PRUNner Base Planner & Management tool for Prosperous Universe - Jacudibu/PRUNner https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0kglUcX3waGu6VOc4QMXalnUmbEdQCxpCOLBVMuyAe4/https/opengraph.githubassets.com/151fd593cfe716fe51735c1de63da41da7961390ca117be86e5c38f20bd65fde/Jacudibu/PRUNner [29-Apr-23 02:56 PM] sage42#0000 Iโ€™ve been using it for a while thanks, I was hesitant between Chemical production or going straight for the BMP so I can really produce all of my own T1 supplies. [30-Apr-23 02:13 AM] allocater#0000 for Chemical you can go Griffenstone or Elon. BMP is on Heph and there is always demand for PE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Apr-23 02:25 AM] domicius#0000 Hi guys. Work took me out of the game for a bit. Back now! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿป (8) [30-Apr-23 02:28 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Yeah! ๐Ÿฅณ [30-Apr-23 12:35 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome back โœŒ๏ธ [01-May-23 12:11 AM] yuen8241#0000 It seems that our logo changes color every day.๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-23 12:34 AM] exeler#0000 I like this red one better than the yellow one before it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [01-May-23 12:35 AM] yuen8241#0000 As a symbol, orange is better because it is the color of ANT. [01-May-23 02:49 AM] Deleted User#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… [01-May-23 05:51 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 It's a feature. [01-May-23 10:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Khal! Let us know if you have any questions about the corp, and be sure to check out the resources in the #welcome channel [02-May-23 01:48 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-18737601 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-18737601 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XXiFkCLaTh-mS6Uyp21YjnHe2BDcL9BjlMdYssDNQbk/https/media.tenor.com/j0OAdATURc0AAAAD/welcome.png [02-May-23 11:24 AM] sage42#0000 Thanks! Whatโ€™s up? {Reactions} ๐Ÿช‚ [03-May-23 10:17 PM] syqel#0000 What does this mean? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1103520628738367599/Screenshot_from_2023-05-03_21-15-18.png?ex=6814e1ec&is=6813906c&hm=d1da5040c005a2cf49a3529113c014b8509692610d8c220ac2e877c2fbb57e32& [03-May-23 10:36 PM] syqel#0000 It finally went away after several minutes - Most likely a server update issue with my buffer [04-May-23 04:23 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 You needed to update the page/buffer pretty regularly. I now do it all the time - instead of closing all open tabs when making a sale/contract/etc, I often refresh the page instead. It's probably a lot more than is required but this makes sure the buffer is always up-to-date. [07-May-23 06:41 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Just posting his here for posterity: [07-May-23 06:41 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1104734692428746803/image.png?ex=6814af5b&is=68135ddb&hm=a847a8cae17d684c5044b02465e0b9cddd5173f6032ac4cc291884e2d70a6b11& [07-May-23 06:41 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 First time going over 2mil in a currency legitimately. {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (10) [07-May-23 09:08 AM] zipatsu#0000 Congratulations! ๐ŸŽ‰ [07-May-23 10:58 AM] sage42#0000 Whoop Whoop [07-May-23 03:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 make sure to add your bases and products available to the corp to the spreadsheet [07-May-23 04:25 PM] sage42#0000 Will do, was waiting to get home [07-May-23 04:44 PM] Deleted User#0000 So everyone can just edit it? [07-May-23 04:45 PM] Deleted User#0000 I didn't know [07-May-23 04:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 yes [07-May-23 04:45 PM] Deleted User#0000 Ok, I have some prod of AL rgn [07-May-23 10:21 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 The R-Fab market is becoming quite saturated it seems. I was going get into A-Fabs but I'm thinking of just dropping construction entirely. [07-May-23 10:22 PM] churavis#0000 It's about 1 PP3 to support 1 PP4 [07-May-23 10:24 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I have 3 PP3 and it takes at least 3 permits to support those [07-May-23 10:27 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Maybe it's time to just become a COF mogul [07-May-23 10:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 INS still under supplied [07-May-23 10:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 But COF mogul sounds fun too, only problem is you'll have to go outside ant for more FP planets [08-May-23 02:09 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 This is some interesting naming {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1105028695460163584/image.png?ex=6815186b&is=6813c6eb&hm=b28dc58fe896f3f5c34fed7e054c362e19a034aa63399af3f98afcc894eeb02c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ– (3) [08-May-23 07:38 AM] yuen8241#0000 Yes, the construction industry is no longer interesting now, and it is not bad to produce some COF. [08-May-23 07:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1105113627700252723/image.png?ex=6814bec4&is=68136d44&hm=95494484e5fb581254a70f5176ed00b04be7d6bbee47f077f179f417b209bca1& [08-May-23 07:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 I turned out to be the seventh.๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช [08-May-23 11:40 AM] allocater#0000 the thing is, an r-fab can roughly be "melted down" to 50k+ money, by building an EDC base, but there are more r-fab producers, than melters ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-May-23 01:08 PM] martin1194#0000 auctions bot is auto finish or need manual to finish? [08-May-23 01:08 PM] churavis#0000 You'll need to hit the finish button manually [08-May-23 01:10 PM] martin1194#0000 i see. thanks mate. first time to use. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-May-23 01:35 PM] exeler#0000 Adding an auto finish feature is on the to-do list though. [09-May-23 12:27 AM] martin1194#0000 would u mind upload it to GitHub to develop together? [09-May-23 01:02 AM] martin1194#0000 i almost would like to add some a command for shipping [09-May-23 03:05 AM] exeler#0000 I've currently got it as a public repo on gitlab, not github, if that works for you https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot Jordan Cottle / Prosperous Bot ยท GitLab GitLab.com https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [09-May-23 05:24 AM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1105440140756787231/image.png?ex=68149d5b&is=68134bdb&hm=6410356dbf517d39016ae86c8835c0e64191a6aeba14c3ba3fb90538bf7f779a& [09-May-23 05:24 AM] habix3956#0000 haven't seen one like this before [09-May-23 05:49 AM] martin1194#0000 shall we create a channel to discuss the bot dev? [09-May-23 06:00 AM] martin1194#0000 I am trying to finish the #4 issue. as i see, there is no function to remove a finished record from json? if i use load_auctions() to list all auctions. that will include all of the auctions(available &finished) [09-May-23 06:00 AM] martin1194#0000 seems to need to make a function to filter finished or still ongoing? [09-May-23 06:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 Old auctions are deleted in the complete_auction function [09-May-23 07:00 AM] hernanduer#0000 That's one of those new ones from the tutorial contracts, right? Now if only we had the power for that complexity ๐Ÿคฉ [09-May-23 10:04 AM] martin1194#0000 sorry. i haven't notice line251. Thanks mate ``` del AUCTIONS[auction.id] ``` [09-May-23 11:02 AM] martin1194#0000 I am trying to understand "guild_id" is stand for? [09-May-23 11:11 AM] allocater#0000 you could even get a channel on the tool-discord [09-May-23 02:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 `guild_id` is what discord uses for "servers" in the app itself [09-May-23 02:49 PM] martin1194#0000 Very interesting name. That's make me cofuse before i knew it. [09-May-23 02:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess they had their world of warcraft guilds in mind when they designed the app ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-May-23 07:05 PM] exeler#0000 I don't have a channel anywhere set up yet. So far there hasn't been a huge need for it. The occasional DM and discussions in the issues are good for now. I wouldn't want to put the dev channel in here since the bot isn't specifically an OOG thing (although we're the only ones using it so far). I also don't think the project is quite ready for announcing/sharing in the general tools discord yet, but when it is ready for more eyes and collaboration I think asking for a channel there would be the way I'll go. {Reactions} goodluck (2) [13-May-23 05:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 electronics are sooo messy [13-May-23 05:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 gone are the nice ratios of most of chemistry/food/manufacturing {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [13-May-23 05:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 2.3 extra LDI here, 1.2 extra TPU there [14-May-23 02:38 AM] domicius#0000 What does "melted down" mean? [14-May-23 02:39 AM] allocater#0000 using r-fabs to build a SE and let it decay while producing EDC ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-May-23 02:40 AM] domicius#0000 Ah [14-May-23 02:42 AM] domicius#0000 I need my whole base to keep my SLs and SEs repaired [14-May-23 02:42 AM] allocater#0000 1 SE running over 90d converts 9 r-fabs + 90d of consumables into 138 EDC [14-May-23 02:41 PM] martin1194#0000 looking for PWO. [14-May-23 04:03 PM] exeler#0000 I'm gonna close out my auctions today after my kid goes to bed. I see you're on the PWO auction. If you need some more after that I'm happy to field a specific order for them. I'm sitting on a fair bit of COT and can crank out a LOT of PWO quickly if you wanted to stock up for a while. [14-May-23 04:05 PM] martin1194#0000 I will need more cuz I always let my PWO in 0 storage. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1107413479025029270/image.png?ex=68148aec&is=6813396c&hm=7288c2d4dfbe1fe049ca998f80d1f70abc02d08a40e3fd840e3dfa7094ac5597& [15-May-23 12:04 AM] exeler#0000 I just queued up 1600 PWO on Heph, so send me a contract for however much you need to stock up for a while ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [15-May-23 06:08 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Does anyone make bulk FIM and MEA? I need 668 and 126 every 30 days [15-May-23 06:43 AM] martin1194#0000 I can't cover all your consumtion. cuz my production line not stable cuz my management have some issue. but I had keep produce FIM. 1200@1 I will have 300FIM arrive ant after 3days. [15-May-23 06:44 AM] martin1194#0000 glad to hear that. will u send it to ant or I need to pick up at Heph? [15-May-23 08:27 AM] exeler#0000 Whichever you like. PWO is pretty easy to transport [15-May-23 10:29 AM] martin1194#0000 Thanks mate, I would like to pick up at ANT. I haven't base at Heph [16-May-23 07:47 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 This is a tragedy and should be rectified. [18-May-23 02:25 AM] habix3956#0000 Could we do auction bot in reverse? [18-May-23 02:25 AM] habix3956#0000 Like you post what you need and others can offer at some price [18-May-23 11:10 AM] martin1194#0000 I help u to create a new request in #16 https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/16 {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/16 Add Command to ask for item (#16) ยท Issues ยท Jordan Cottle / Prospe... -Needers use commands to post what they need -Seller will use command to post what they can offer https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [18-May-23 11:13 AM] martin1194#0000 Feel free to add feature request in here. https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/ {Embed} https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/issues/ Issues ยท Jordan Cottle / Prosperous Bot ยท GitLab GitLab.com https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wGrCZCO3difjVkR5DtOA1HvcFqXwGLLCky596kluk68/https/gitlab.com/assets/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489847a0f385112ddbcd71ccfa1570febab5d2.jpg [18-May-23 11:33 AM] martin1194#0000 Vote!!! which function should be queued on 1st in to do list? ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ Change max bid amount ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ A command for Request item ๐Ÿ‡จ Ooga Bank System {Reactions} ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ (8) ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‡จ [18-May-23 09:24 PM] martin1194#0000 what the name call that is much better? reverse-auction? [18-May-23 09:25 PM] churavis#0000 Request {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [20-May-23 06:28 AM] Deleted User#0000 How do you know or see which planets have which production advantages and bonuses? [20-May-23 07:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 Fio [20-May-23 07:56 AM] Deleted User#0000 Ok [20-May-23 01:28 PM] exeler#0000 There's generally two things to look for in a planet. The resources it has available, and what the CoGC typically gets voted for. The resources are important if you're planning on doing extraction, and the cocg provides the boost to specific industries. You should be able to see the resource info from the planet's view in game. That view should also link to the cogc if the planet has one built. [21-May-23 01:32 PM] habix3956#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1109911671289430097/image.png?ex=68150fcb&is=6813be4b&hm=22bfcf73387b1b26815f38d47b7cfbe15372f18e635000878842a8e48bc5afb7& [21-May-23 05:02 PM] churavis#0000 Yo entiendo [21-May-23 06:17 PM] syqel#0000 Are those marijuana plants he's standing in front of? ๐Ÿ˜‰ [22-May-23 01:50 AM] martin1194#0000 how to make planet more settler inside it? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1110097214203768862/image.png?ex=681513d8&is=6813c258&hm=c4308e78eccc3d0b37706984c32c6e27b64adc2b438feb88a8a7849ff9ff9c97& [22-May-23 01:54 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Looks like you need Pioneers not settlers? Just need to wait, in 12h when the next report is generated you will get more [22-May-23 02:03 AM] martin1194#0000 oops. yes. Pioneer. [22-May-23 02:04 AM] martin1194#0000 after 12h, the next polution raise is after 7d [22-May-23 02:07 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yes, you can see just under the graph it's nearly 6.5 days, every 7 days there is a new report and change in population {Reactions} goodluck [22-May-23 02:10 AM] Deleted User#0000 So where do i see the bonus (boost) of this planet? I know that some planet have special production advantages {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1110102342646374512/info_deimos.png?ex=6815189f&is=6813c71f&hm=bae52d9d8cf696b1e93865dbc06bc055244f999934bcabe37241459e8a766e75& [22-May-23 02:14 AM] Deleted User#0000 Is this the information {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1110103281390334063/info.png?ex=6815197f&is=6813c7ff&hm=7e42426f8267c607a38e362e8f47780d7a6178caada78899d56a2c8653d53424& [22-May-23 04:58 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 The COGC (the first image) has the construction campaign so that gives a 25% bonus to construction. The extraction rates in the second image are the 100% rates, with the COGC and experts etc being put on top of that. [22-May-23 05:02 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1110145664865812563/image.png?ex=68149838&is=681346b8&hm=3285644f321504a634bd6efc3a7eb78da783b52b8bd31c87e75fca94d4c27691& [22-May-23 10:03 AM] Deleted User#0000 Ok tnx [23-May-23 03:38 AM] martin1194#0000 What happened if i never repair my ship? [23-May-23 03:39 AM] martin1194#0000 Is it same as construction and slower? [23-May-23 04:11 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah just slower as far as I know [23-May-23 07:44 AM] churavis#0000 Under 80% it begins to show down considerably [23-May-23 08:23 AM] yuen8241#0000 I maintain it at around 98% [23-May-23 10:03 AM] martin1194#0000 How to check it? Only in ship yard? [23-May-23 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 SHP [23-May-23 10:16 AM] churavis#0000 Click on the ship's name {Reactions} goodluck [23-May-23 05:51 PM] martin1194#0000 85% seems i can fly more [23-May-23 09:34 PM] martin1194#0000 why we have etherwind channel but no ice-station? [23-May-23 09:34 PM] martin1194#0000 etherwind not ANT area. what make us prefer etherwind more than ice-station? [23-May-23 09:39 PM] martin1194#0000 H2O price rise again. LOL [23-May-23 09:44 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Etherwind is cheaper to build on isn't it? It's also nearly equal distance between Antares and Benten. [23-May-23 09:50 PM] martin1194#0000 !! i see. thanks for answer. haven't notice that before. LOL [24-May-23 01:46 AM] zipatsu#0000 Someone's stocking up for the hot hot summer I guess ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1110821152164675584/image.png?ex=68151310&is=6813c190&hm=e21787f917cf50f65e4d69d0a43d411b09c89a9a3fa924b79a3b6a9f1600cb8f& [24-May-23 09:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 He's just trying to price fix [24-May-23 09:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm finally gonna start an etherwind base, the water manipulations are just too much {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [24-May-23 02:34 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Etherwind is 50% further than Ice Station from ANT, and makes 10% less H2O, but is _a lot_ cheaper to build on. [24-May-23 02:35 PM] allocater#0000 if investment capital is no issue, I wonder which one is more profitable. [24-May-23 02:36 PM] allocater#0000 building decay vs 10% water [24-May-23 03:05 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 In this case, _all things being equal_ (i.e. building repair amd consumables are taken at market value), Etherwind is more profitable even though it makes less H2O. [24-May-23 04:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think ISA also causes more ship damage [24-May-23 04:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 not much though, small factor [24-May-23 04:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 Etherwind's price is ~9.75/u, ISA is about 12/u with depreciation and taxes taken into account [24-May-23 04:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 ISA has a cooler name, although Etherwind is up there. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‰ [24-May-23 04:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 just disappointed it's not _actually_ ice [24-May-23 04:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 It would be cool to EXT the water... but I believe it's the only cold planet with liquid water on it [24-May-23 04:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 -184C and liquid H2O, how cool is that? ๐Ÿ˜Ž [24-May-23 04:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Plus I sell discount BL ๐Ÿ˜„ [24-May-23 04:50 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 ISA was ice in the last universe [24-May-23 04:50 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Needed an EXT [24-May-23 04:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 I guess they have the same efficiency either way [24-May-23 04:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 maybe it's a subterranean ocean? [24-May-23 06:26 PM] erklein#0000 I know I prefer ISA as it's also right next door to my base on ZV-639d which helps with keeping the NS running [25-May-23 02:30 AM] martin1194#0000 only can repair at shipyard? [25-May-23 02:46 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 This isn't true; an EXT takes up 25 area and 60 PIOs, while a RIG takes up 10 area and 30 PIOs, yet they function exactly the same. A RIG is 2.5x more efficient than an EXT. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ถโ€๐ŸŒซ๏ธ [25-May-23 08:40 AM] churavis#0000 No, you can only repair at a base with the mats in the base inventory [25-May-23 08:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 Thatโ€˜s why I left over 10 LHPs at all my bases [25-May-23 08:47 AM] yuen8241#0000 It's really strange why we can't repair ships at CX. Don't all space games have space shipyards? [25-May-23 08:50 AM] churavis#0000 There has been talk of my it so you can repair from warehouses on planets with shipyards as that's what a lot of noobs assume is how it works anyways. [25-May-23 08:52 AM] yuen8241#0000 So why can't a shipyard be built in CX in the game? [25-May-23 08:53 AM] churavis#0000 Because the CX doesn't have enough gravity or population to support it? [25-May-23 09:02 AM] yuen8241#0000 But many spaceships are only more suitable for building in space, because there is no gravity. As for manpower, robots can be used completely. [25-May-23 09:04 AM] churavis#0000 It's not that you need gravity on the shipyard itself, it's that you need a body large enough to produce a Lagrange point stable enough for a large structure [25-May-23 09:40 AM] yuen8241#0000 Considering that the shipping volume of prun' spaceship is so low, I don't think it is necessary to have a huge structure. [25-May-23 09:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, even the VCB is only about the size of 5 houses strapped together. 2000sqft=185m2 * 3m average height * 5 = 2775m^3 [25-May-23 09:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 or another way, it's about 45 standard shipping containers [25-May-23 09:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 or even a better way, SpaceX starship, which is launching from the ground, is 1k m^3 [25-May-23 09:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 so really not impressed with prun technology ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-May-23 09:56 AM] yuen8241#0000 But their engine is too powerful. [25-May-23 09:57 AM] yuen8241#0000 You can travel through many solar systems in a few days. [25-May-23 09:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 we're one technological breakthrough away from that! I hope [25-May-23 10:00 AM] hernanduer#0000 just need a bigger population in space to research and find it [25-May-23 10:17 AM] churavis#0000 SpaceX is cool but they haven't yet perfected faster than light travel {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (2) โœจ (2) [25-May-23 02:13 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Musk will tell you he has though and sell it to you as full FTL before it's ready [25-May-23 02:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 FTL is something they can fix post-launch with a software patch ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [25-May-23 02:26 PM] churavis#0000 He turns the impossible into the merely delayed [25-May-23 08:00 PM] exeler#0000 That's okay. Eventually consistent reality is in the SLA so there is nothing you can do about it legally. [25-May-23 08:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 I knew I should've read the fine print when I incarnated {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [28-May-23 06:17 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Is anyone using https://prunplanner.org ? [28-May-23 08:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've used it a bit. Being able to access the same bases from work and from home is pretty great. [28-May-23 09:00 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Yeah I've had that issue even though you can sync Prunner with dropbox etc, can't do that on a work laptop [28-May-23 09:01 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I like the Prunner UI more still, it's more compact [28-May-23 09:01 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 but it looks like it's got good potential, especially the empires concept [04-Jun-23 09:18 AM] .zogii#0000 @sginga are you having trouble fulfilling our contract? Iโ€™m happy to keep extending if needed. [04-Jun-23 09:22 AM] .zogii#0000 @sginga are you having trouble fulfilling our contract? Iโ€™m happy to keep extending if needed. [05-Jun-23 02:57 AM] martin1194#0000 how can i change the storage limit if i am governor? [05-Jun-23 03:49 AM] martin1194#0000 I am ZV-639d governor. i would like to change the warehouse each player limit. [05-Jun-23 03:49 AM] martin1194#0000 is there any way to do it? [05-Jun-23 04:19 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 The number of warehouses is limited by the level of the warehouse, there isn't much reason to limit it lower [05-Jun-23 09:29 AM] churavis#0000 You have to upgrade the warehouse, every two upgrade increases the number of warehouses each player can rent [05-Jun-23 09:31 AM] martin1194#0000 :/ i see. that why I can't set it to 2 for each player to let haven't base player can fulfill before ship arrives. [05-Jun-23 02:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 @allocater not sure about HYF builds honestly, it uses two more permits and doesn't get you much more in the way of finished products [05-Jun-23 02:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 here's with the hyf {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1115364527362539640/hyf.png?ex=68151fa9&is=6813ce29&hm=ecd75f89eba9fc9467a6922fbe1712be902b1fc2b6833800a0608da55ab2ff28& [05-Jun-23 02:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 here's without (and note without has 2 permits on Harmonia) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1115364647009267772/nohyf.png?ex=68151fc6&is=6813ce46&hm=d9361c2f35ce4c510537c97744b9bf33434840c1228e5aaccf676097b1179408& [05-Jun-23 02:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 dunno if I'm missing something [05-Jun-23 02:43 PM] allocater#0000 2 more permits to make 250k more? sounds like a deal. HYF is producing more crops per base than FRM. [05-Jun-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah but you have to subtract out Etherwind and ISA though [05-Jun-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 prunplanner needs to work out the profit/revenue bit, haha [05-Jun-23 02:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 so it's more like 291k vs 150k [05-Jun-23 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you set the price of H2O to 0, and the Etherwind base will make $95,912 less and the water consuming planet will make $95,912 more. [05-Jun-23 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 So it's just a matter of where you attribute the profit to in a vertically integrated system [05-Jun-23 02:47 PM] allocater#0000 I would set it to market price and then cut the 2 bases with the least profit aka outsourcing it to the market (if volume allows) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [05-Jun-23 02:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah good idea, at 0 I see 391k to 227k [05-Jun-23 02:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm personally a big MUS fan with HYFs, but that's a separate conversation {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿป [05-Jun-23 02:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah since it's not perfectly balanced, you will need a market price to truely compare the outputs between the two empires [05-Jun-23 02:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm also concerned about the shipping load [05-Jun-23 02:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 all that water [05-Jun-23 02:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll buy ya a 2k/2k ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jun-23 02:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 hahaha nah I can afford things now [05-Jun-23 02:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 Correction, I'll send you money for one, not gonna piece it together for you ๐Ÿ˜› [05-Jun-23 02:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 I make some pieces now at least [05-Jun-23 02:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 so why MUS over ALG, they seem less time efficient? [05-Jun-23 02:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 less water but more NS [05-Jun-23 02:55 PM] allocater#0000 less shipping demand [05-Jun-23 02:55 PM] allocater#0000 also with water at 50 maybe profitability even switched to MUS [05-Jun-23 02:55 PM] rune_242#0000 and shipping is EX-PEN-SIVE [05-Jun-23 02:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 but it's only maybe 40t/d [05-Jun-23 02:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 and you have to make 1 more HYF to cover the loss of efficiency [05-Jun-23 02:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 for equal RATs [05-Jun-23 03:03 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I plan to make SE-110b into Ag (HYF) and SE-110d into FP, they're the same system as Ice Station Alpha [05-Jun-23 03:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 HYF makes 24 MUS / day. It replaces BEA, made in a farm at 10.5 BEA / day. The HYF is half the area. So it's 4x the RAT components per area per day. NS is pretty cheap and easy. Having MUS in your rotation can allow you to fine tune your HYF water consumption if needed, which is nice. (swapping off CAF usually). [05-Jun-23 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 I haven't really been into ALG. It's a lot of water for a pretty small time savings. Someone could do the math but I suspect the water shipping isn't worth the trouble for ALG over MUS. [06-Jun-23 08:13 AM] churavis#0000 https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TSsYtfuhajIDilhgMHHWoZKloty6-VI7e67v_QnzO5c/https/media.tenor.com/LLLJYVQJNVAAAAAD/chefs-kiss-french-chef.png [06-Jun-23 08:13 AM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1115629570612273242/Screenshot_20230606-0712102.png?ex=6814c501&is=68137381&hm=2f380e4441e5b594a47653901c801b4c1de849a1381796d940a0a2ef09b8b453& [06-Jun-23 02:45 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I saw the light, you have to get quite creative for some of them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฆ โค๏ธ [11-Jun-23 08:33 PM] martin1194#0000 oppps [11-Jun-23 08:33 PM] martin1194#0000 yuen disappeared {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (3) [12-Jun-23 02:10 PM] rune_242#0000 if anybody needs AMM you can come pick it up for free on IY-816f [12-Jun-23 02:10 PM] rune_242#0000 I have 5k atm [12-Jun-23 02:16 PM] churavis#0000 I have a free 2k/2k and I will take 1k and transport whatever else you want back to ANT with the remaining half of the cargo bay [12-Jun-23 02:17 PM] rune_242#0000 how much you want for the transport? [12-Jun-23 02:17 PM] churavis#0000 You're already paying me with the free AMM [12-Jun-23 02:17 PM] rune_242#0000 oh right๐Ÿ˜… [12-Jun-23 02:18 PM] churavis#0000 Send me a shipping contract, it arrives in 18.5 hours [12-Jun-23 02:29 PM] rune_242#0000 done [12-Jun-23 02:33 PM] churavis#0000 Send me a sell contract for my AMM so I don't have to rent a warehouse {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [12-Jun-23 05:21 PM] martin1194#0000 Looking for OVE [12-Jun-23 05:29 PM] churavis#0000 All you need is OVE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (6) [13-Jun-23 10:08 AM] domicius#0000 On vacation guys, so not really checking on anything beyond once a day. If you need something, let me know by direct message {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [13-Jun-23 11:12 AM] churavis#0000 We'll be fine, go have fun [13-Jun-23 11:13 AM] domicius#0000 Mainly sleeping on the sofa and zoning out at the cafe.... But yes. Resting. Mental health is important y'all. Take a break before you break ๐Ÿ˜Š [13-Jun-23 11:13 AM] churavis#0000 That sounds like fun to me [13-Jun-23 11:14 AM] domicius#0000 Tell me how old you are, without telling me how old you are... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ด [13-Jun-23 04:08 PM] rune_242#0000 does anybody need H? [13-Jun-23 04:08 PM] rune_242#0000 you can come pick it up on KI-401d for 30/u [13-Jun-23 04:23 PM] churavis#0000 Send me a sell order for 2k, I'll pick it up in a day or two [13-Jun-23 04:24 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I will take a 2k contract too [14-Jun-23 11:41 PM] martin1194#0000 ads up for 200FF at ZV-639 d 20@1 [15-Jun-23 09:13 AM] hernanduer#0000 you can use the outer rim channel for that kinda stuff [15-Jun-23 09:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 also who was tracking new players? Was that jack? we should make sure we keep adding new people to keep things fresh ๐Ÿƒ [15-Jun-23 09:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think he was doing something like this? are there any other starter planets? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1118912477145616384/snoop.PNG?ex=6814d8f2&is=68138772&hm=517799082f0d69e768b64ec612cb5d79183988e0d2fd24b74e2d3ec76913cefc& [15-Jun-23 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, Yuen had a setup like that [15-Jun-23 10:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah, yuen's gone quiet since I argued with him about the ship stuff ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [15-Jun-23 10:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 was just a minor disagreement! I still like him ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Jun-23 11:00 AM] allocater#0000 I find some new players when they buy PSL or bfabs and send them 300k but that only works if they have basic [15-Jun-23 11:01 AM] allocater#0000 I was thinking there could be a newbie corp where we pump tax money in, that way you can transfer money to trial accounts [15-Jun-23 11:03 AM] churavis#0000 I think we should try to avoid admitting members to the corp who don't have pro. They're not likely to last long and can't interact with other basic players. [15-Jun-23 11:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 I've found several new players (with pro) who don't want grants or loans or handouts of any type. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [15-Jun-23 11:29 AM] exeler#0000 I was in that bucket for a while. I think that makes them a good fit for this corp since that isn't our main feature. It's just something we happen to provide if they want it. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [15-Jun-23 11:32 AM] exeler#0000 Also, we specifically don't want people who are only here for the handouts. So anyone who doesn't want any handouts gets an A+ from me. [15-Jun-23 11:38 AM] allocater#0000 but imagine the economic boom when new players instantly build new bases, instead of being stuck for 2 months [15-Jun-23 11:41 AM] exeler#0000 100% For us that is amazing, but for a player looking to enjoy the early stages of the game and use that early period to learn how things work maybe they'd prefer not to. If they join the corp, those corp dividends actually are a pretty decent booster, and socializing with the corp members and seeing a niche they can fill might also convince them that "a loan is okay" [15-Jun-23 11:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah I'm pulling up corps to see if they have pending ratings, then DMing them to see what they're thinking [15-Jun-23 11:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 will see if they have good response, might invite them to discord [16-Jun-23 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 Well this is a new one [16-Jun-23 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_cbn7flbNwN.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_cbn7flbNwN.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pV0801YGh1L8OHw0dvI7mG5-zJdl5TP9S5VM7_vnfEQ/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_cbn7flbNwN.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [16-Jun-23 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 apparently I settled a planet that uses CIS [16-Jun-23 11:36 AM] churavis#0000 Ask the governor of he takes crypto, maybe doge coin? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [16-Jun-23 12:11 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 Joined the server. [16-Jun-23 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 Welcome @turlorn_angren ! [16-Jun-23 12:11 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 hello everybody {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (3) [16-Jun-23 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 take a look at the welcome channel to get a feel for how we work [16-Jun-23 01:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hi and welcome! [16-Jun-23 01:05 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 thanks. [16-Jun-23 01:06 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i see a lot of names here that i've traded with before [16-Jun-23 01:06 PM] churavis#0000 What's your CO? [16-Jun-23 01:06 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 angren agrobusiness [16-Jun-23 01:07 PM] churavis#0000 The 4 letter code? [16-Jun-23 01:07 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 anab [16-Jun-23 01:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, we're the biggest corp in ANT space [16-Jun-23 03:40 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Welcome [16-Jun-23 07:29 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-welcome-gif-22416975 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-welcome-gif-22416975 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YL1fCaX4sqXYyid5z6npN7NGgaW6ggtdXF2AvN8zQ_w/https/media.tenor.com/oC8CSq25wx4AAAAD/baby-yoda-welcome.png [17-Jun-23 06:14 AM] domicius#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/EREoOKpvjGYm4Wp-Jsp7FxS-GUm-jbQAfhlpQ6mZDlA/https/media.tenor.com/6us3et_6HDoAAAAD/hello-there-hi-there.png [17-Jun-23 08:24 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 thanks guys ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Jun-23 12:52 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i have some RAT and DW to sell. is anybody interested? [18-Jun-23 01:21 PM] domicius#0000 Sure, stick it in an auction on the auction channel [18-Jun-23 01:22 PM] domicius#0000 "/auction" {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [18-Jun-23 02:37 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 when and how will an auction end? and how are the goods transferred afterwards? [18-Jun-23 02:37 PM] domicius#0000 You end it yourself [18-Jun-23 02:37 PM] domicius#0000 And make the contracts to transfer them [18-Jun-23 02:48 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 when there are more than one bidders, do i simply select one? [18-Jun-23 02:56 PM] zipatsu#0000 Afaik it splits it up evenly between bidders โœŒ๏ธ [18-Jun-23 03:10 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 ah, i see. thanks for all the help. [18-Jun-23 07:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, it gives you the quantity and price for each person, so it's easy to send a bunch in a row through APEX [19-Jun-23 02:21 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 "Auction" is a misnomer, since it's not a bidding system and winner-takes-all. It's more of a collective "Equal Share" disbursement. But once you run one it's easy to understand. [19-Jun-23 02:22 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Though, as usual, it's also easy to mess up the contracts, and having to fix 5-10 contracts all at once is a mini-game I know I play often. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [19-Jun-23 07:03 AM] martin1194#0000 is there anyone have news about yuen? {Reactions} ๐Ÿฆ— (3) [23-Jun-23 08:12 AM] domicius#0000 Guys, I'm going on hiatus. Need some time away to take care of stuff, probably be away 2-4weeks at least. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Ÿ (2) ๐Ÿ‘ (3) โœŒ๏ธ (5) ๐Ÿ–– [23-Jun-23 02:01 PM] zipatsu#0000 Hope all goes well ๐Ÿ™‚ [23-Jun-23 09:42 PM] martin1194#0000 if yuen keep inactive, maybe need someone to take nike governor [23-Jun-23 10:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Election starts in 4 days. Hey @yuen8241 should we find someone to take over? [23-Jun-23 10:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 And does anyone here want to? Traditionally Nike has been a high priority planet for us [23-Jun-23 10:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd be open to it [23-Jun-23 10:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 but I like Demeter too [24-Jun-23 01:34 AM] martin1194#0000 I can't. no stable money to maintance the whole planet also is a ZV-639D governor [24-Jun-23 04:42 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I've mentally checked out of the game so will be winding up operations over the next month while I still have Pro. If someone wants to take over FSE prod, I can give you everything you need to get started. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (5) ๐Ÿ–– โค๏ธ [25-Jun-23 10:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 If we aren't gonna put up a governor for Nike, we should probably announce that. I can make a few posts tomorrow if no one is interested [25-Jun-23 10:49 PM] churavis#0000 I would very much prefer to keep it in OOG hands, it's an important planet and I don't want some stingy tight-wad scaring away all the workers [26-Jun-23 04:55 AM] thummper#0000 hello, popped out of the corp as I am painfully inactive. might be around in the future / on reset not sure. good luck all (: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [26-Jun-23 06:00 AM] hernanduer#0000 We definitely need new blood too [26-Jun-23 06:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 And I'm fine with switching to nike [26-Jun-23 09:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Official welcome to @turlorn_angren , who has passed the trial period! Please let us know if you have any questions or need anything. Did you get your welcome money yet? [26-Jun-23 09:21 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 thanks for the welcome. i got my first dividends, if you mean that. [26-Jun-23 09:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 Nope! Welcome money is separate, I'll send some over [26-Jun-23 09:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also if you have any interest in governing a planet, we can help set you up somewhere easy [26-Jun-23 12:38 PM] syqel#0000 I would like to get into FSE production if no one else wants to - Are you offering ingredients or plant fabs? [26-Jun-23 03:42 PM] melon164#0000 Joined the server. [26-Jun-23 03:42 PM] churavis#0000 Is Melon joining OOG? [26-Jun-23 03:43 PM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿ‘‹ [26-Jun-23 03:43 PM] melon164#0000 Maybe [26-Jun-23 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome melon164! I invited him here in case he was interested in joining up [26-Jun-23 03:43 PM] melon164#0000 Assuming you'll have me; I'm still loyal to ANTS, but it feels like being loyal to the Holy Roman Empire these days... ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [26-Jun-23 03:44 PM] melon164#0000 It would be nice to be part of an active corp again [26-Jun-23 03:44 PM] churavis#0000 If I had thought you might be interested I would have invited you months ago [26-Jun-23 03:45 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Welcome! ๐Ÿ˜€ [26-Jun-23 03:46 PM] churavis#0000 I'm quite certain there isn't a more active corp in Antares space, certainly none with as many governors [26-Jun-23 03:48 PM] melon164#0000 It definitely looks that way [26-Jun-23 03:55 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I have given a discord invite link to Khan Corp, they're Pro. I messaged them back in Feb but they joined GTU and it's not for them it seems. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Jun-23 03:56 PM] churavis#0000 Wow, we are going after some heavyweights today [26-Jun-23 04:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 With a lot of more experienced players retiring, the landscape for long-time players is changing. I think it makes sense to reach out to them again. I think new players who are joining now are also a bit different than folks to joined a year ago, although it's hard to articulate how [26-Jun-23 04:07 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 I can supply both, I can also give you an overview of all of the bases I had that feed the 3 SPF [26-Jun-23 04:13 PM] domicius#0000 @melon164 Hi there! Welcome to the Corp - great to see you here [26-Jun-23 09:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 Welcome! [26-Jun-23 09:57 PM] hernanduer#0000 Also pretty excited about these ship changes. It's always good when we only do buffs, games shouldn't do nerfs to active players [27-Jun-23 02:23 PM] syqel#0000 Sounds great - Send me the overview and some contracts [29-Jun-23 09:47 AM] hernanduer#0000 up to 17 permits now and I finally have a free one with no plans. What to do now?... [29-Jun-23 09:49 AM] churavis#0000 Make a plan? [29-Jun-23 09:49 AM] churavis#0000 Or just let it increase your electronics multiplier [29-Jun-23 10:13 AM] hernanduer#0000 well, that's actually part of the plan. I'm only using phobos for a single CLR to make NCS. <100 area. Need to do _something_ with it [29-Jun-23 10:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 also @habix3956 has been missing for a bit, so I might need to make a TIO base... [29-Jun-23 10:19 AM] churavis#0000 I seem to remember someone else asking me for a regular supply of NCS, more than I could provide since my electronics base is full [29-Jun-23 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Always something to do on a electronics planet! [29-Jun-23 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 aside from IDC, there's good utility and money to be made with WAI [29-Jun-23 10:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah that's true, but it's all SO expensive to setup too, haha [29-Jun-23 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 we definitely have the capital [29-Jun-23 10:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 true, just want to make sure it's towards some goal for me [29-Jun-23 10:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 NN or WAI won't hurt though [29-Jun-23 10:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 I actually make just under enough for what I need, have to augment every month with a few hundred from CX [29-Jun-23 10:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 mostly related to not enough experts on phobos [29-Jun-23 04:28 PM] laichonious#0000 Joined the server. [29-Jun-23 04:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Laichonious of Foxfire Carbonization! I saw you joined the corp in game, so sent out a discord invite [29-Jun-23 04:30 PM] laichonious#0000 Hello! ๐Ÿ‘‹ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ winken (2) [29-Jun-23 04:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Take a look at the #welcome and #rules-faq, and let us know if you have any questions. Looks like you're a long time player, so you probably know your way around [29-Jun-23 04:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Who sent your invite, and did they give you a tour of OOG? [29-Jun-23 05:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-18737601 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-18737601 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XXiFkCLaTh-mS6Uyp21YjnHe2BDcL9BjlMdYssDNQbk/https/media.tenor.com/j0OAdATURc0AAAAD/welcome.png [01-Jul-23 04:21 AM] allocater#0000 You can produce WAI in case Domicius wants to retire, or EDC/IDC still gives 200k per day if you want to produce MM goods [01-Jul-23 08:02 AM] martin1194#0000 looking for C [01-Jul-23 08:21 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 at the moment i have 10 units of C in stock that i can offer you. [01-Jul-23 09:40 AM] martin1194#0000 is it on ANT? [01-Jul-23 09:54 AM] domicius#0000 I've got a C auction up for you. I'll close it tomorrow [01-Jul-23 01:53 PM] erklein#0000 Hello everyone! I'm letting you know that I will be retiring from the game in the near future. I've had a great time playing with you all, but other aspects in my life require more of my attention and I've been losing interest in the game. As far as in-game, my main contributions to the corp have been NS, some SCA items, and keeping Harmonia up and running. I'll put my thoughts and notes for Harmonia in the Politics thread. Otherwise, expect some fire sales over the next couple of weeks including NS on Harmonia/ZV-639d, C on Nascent, and TCS on Nike as well as all the miscellaneous items I have stockpiled over time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (3) ๐Ÿ–– (6) โค๏ธ [03-Jul-23 11:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 The blog here: https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2023/07/03/new-project-393/ contains the line "for the upcoming release last week" {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2023/07/03/new-project-393/ New Project - Development Log #393 | Prosperous Universe This week we have some great news for you: we secured funding for the next Prosperous Universe project! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TXwRPXyyJKJ_JPmEw9hI3Vrd3IiG596XDQvkB1J_LD0/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/asteroid-day-2023.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [04-Jul-23 01:45 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 That was me! Would still have big love if someone could handle the NCS for me ๐Ÿ’• [04-Jul-23 02:41 AM] domicius#0000 How much NCS would be needed anyway? [04-Jul-23 04:24 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 650/day [04-Jul-23 01:00 PM] domicius#0000 3 CLR would be required. I might be able to swing that on Phobos [04-Jul-23 05:21 PM] higgsy#0000 Joined the server. [04-Jul-23 05:29 PM] higgsy#0000 I'm in GTU currently, but looking to join OOG since I operate in ANT space. I make RAT, DW, AL, COF, C, GL, NS, FLX, EPO, and PG. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (4) [04-Jul-23 06:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's great to hear, welcome! [04-Jul-23 06:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Take a look at our #welcome and #rules-faq and let us know if you have any questions [04-Jul-23 09:23 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 [05-Jul-23 12:26 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Welcome Higgsy! [05-Jul-23 12:46 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Welcome! Those are all really good products. [05-Jul-23 12:48 AM] melon164#0000 I would also like to join. I make all sorts all over ANT, increasingly specialising in advanced ship engines (HPR/HYR/AEN), unusual ship parts (AWH/SRP/AGS/APT/etc), capacitors, SAR and an awful lot of SC. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [05-Jul-23 02:54 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcom-gif-24547000 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcom-gif-24547000 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0S2qDb1Bv44KTLOLzBQ6MTiA3ybTPNM6XhdMmqggrLc/https/media.tenor.com/fNoz0ajm4f4AAAAD/welcom.png [06-Jul-23 04:55 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Are there any newish Pro players that don't have more than 2 ships? [06-Jul-23 05:02 PM] higgsy#0000 I only have 2 ships [06-Jul-23 11:03 PM] sage42#0000 Same still at 2 ships [08-Jul-23 01:18 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 @higgsy @sage42 if you are both looking to build new ships, I will give you an FSE/QCR combo {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [08-Jul-23 01:31 PM] sage42#0000 Yeah my shipping capacity is lacking, itโ€™s my next investment, that would be much appreciated [09-Jul-23 02:41 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'm looking for 10x POW and 10x SP. [09-Jul-23 03:06 PM] melon164#0000 I have a huge pile of POW and SOL, I can move some to Heph and make some SP [09-Jul-23 03:56 PM] mrtcsmith#0000 Are they for your HQ? Most corp members have moved their HQ to Nike and upgrade materials are stockpiled there. [09-Jul-23 05:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have free SP on Nike for your HQ upgrades, just send a contract. Definitely recommend moving your HQ there too ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Jul-23 05:12 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i have a warehouse on nike. i'll look into moving my HQ there. ^^ [09-Jul-23 05:13 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'll send out contracts tomorrow. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jul-23 11:08 AM] higgsy#0000 Can I get an official invite to OOG? ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jul-23 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can send one, but you'll need to leave your current corp first [10-Jul-23 01:01 PM] higgsy#0000 Ok, left GTU. [10-Jul-23 01:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Invitation sent, welcome! [10-Jul-23 02:07 PM] higgsy#0000 Thanks! [10-Jul-23 03:20 PM] higgsy#0000 What's our standard corp discount? [10-Jul-23 03:24 PM] allocater#0000 all offers are here, but probably somewhat outdated https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=489658022 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,QJ-382c,QJ-382g,SE-648b # OF BASES >>,12,14,21,2,18,1,17,5,1,1,23,14,4,10,7,5,1,1,3 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5YUeibQgarMu_0STRWgr7pYdFidTWe35MIiPREwmSCA/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/AOD9vFpK0z1IA4RJHeBQZE94aCWTI7mvkY2gnRGUtyZ6YftO0gxH0ZDBj3w4M6aonjNefDfbHs-1JbFBrMIR4w5QOEa7Y4KMXZcOYdyqwc2qL0sv%3Dw1200-h630-p [10-Jul-23 03:39 PM] higgsy#0000 Thanks! I filled out my row based on a % discount from ANT [10-Jul-23 04:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's not really any particular standard. Just make sure you're making money, especially the newer players [11-Jul-23 12:14 AM] balbar#0000 HI guys. My PRO license will run out at the end of the month and I will stop at that point. It was fun playing with everyone, so thanks for everything. {Reactions} sadcowboy (2) ๐Ÿ˜ข (6) โค๏ธ (5) ๐Ÿ–– (3) [11-Jul-23 07:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 We'll miss you Balbar! Hope to see everyone back for the reset someday {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (3) โœŒ๏ธ [13-Jul-23 01:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 I really hope so, lots of people recently [13-Jul-23 06:05 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 I think it's not just another reset needed but seeing more of the features that are on the roadmap from the devs, they're just tinkering and it feels like they have less than a fulltime dev on it. No one seemed to be asking for the rating stuff they've spent the last months on. [13-Jul-23 10:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, development has been really slow, especially for "new things to do". Since I started... Faction Contracts were a bust- ship upgrades were great but not groundbreaking. And private contracts. That's it for my 450 days of play [13-Jul-23 10:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think they need something larger like: player built orbital somethings... asteroid mining... electricity/energy system... or a political rework larger than "governors get separate wallets" [13-Jul-23 10:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 that being said, I'm optimistic about the upcoming release [13-Jul-23 10:53 AM] melon164#0000 This release feels like they're _trying_ to get on top of it, albeit that they haven't succeeded yet [13-Jul-23 10:54 AM] melon164#0000 some genuine attempts to achieve maximum value-for-devtime by choosing to rebalance the least-balanced parts of the game, for instance {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [13-Jul-23 10:54 AM] melon164#0000 and some commitment to QoL [13-Jul-23 04:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess I will encourage our leaving players to make sure to dump their cash/assets with someone. We can at least throw them all into the apex representation center [13-Jul-23 09:09 PM] exeler#0000 And return them with interest if they return before the next reset! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [14-Jul-23 04:02 PM] allocater#0000 jackinbox's deposit earned 4mil in his absense ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Jul-23 11:40 PM] exeler#0000 I just released a new update for the auction bot! Sorry for ignoring the project for a month ๐Ÿ˜… If you've already bid on an auction, hitting bid again will cancel your bid so you can undo misclicks easily. There's also a new button to change the maximum amount of your bid. So if someone starts an auction for say, 18 FSE, and you only need one you can update your bid to only request one and the bot will respect that when the auction is finialized. This feature was contributed by @martin1194 who's MR sat patiently waiting for nearly a month while I didn't look at it. Sorry again for the wait The bidders list will now display the effective maximum request for every bidder. The format is ": Up to ". This defaults to the entire amount of the auction but can be updated to a different amount after a bid is made. {Reactions} goodluck โœŒ๏ธ [15-Jul-23 11:52 PM] exeler#0000 To go along with :this: I just put up some auctions for items (Construction mats, hull plates, and OFF) that I've not done auctions for in the past because I thought the chances someone wanted that many of the item would be low. But now that you can set a max, feel free to bid for just the amount you want/need ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jul-23 01:17 AM] martin1194#0000 u add a lot of function and more than me. haha. Thank you for update. : P [16-Jul-23 11:15 AM] archielvahr#0000 awesome job with the auction bot changes ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (6) thanks [16-Jul-23 10:31 PM] higgsy#0000 ....... [16-Jul-23 10:32 PM] higgsy#0000 Did I just get a 78k dividend? {Reactions} partyglasses [16-Jul-23 10:32 PM] higgsy#0000 ๐Ÿคฏ [17-Jul-23 03:09 AM] exeler#0000 Anyone else just end up collecting stuff at the CX warehouse because it's "free" storage space? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1130410917314707496/image.png?ex=68152674&is=6813d4f4&hm=4b101ec4049b2ab6daa7d45d4c690039a8f9e85e368cf65ae1da8b5032632f41& [17-Jul-23 03:12 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Not that much, I'm at 20k. [17-Jul-23 04:02 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿ’ฏ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1130424243952295936/image.png?ex=68148a1e&is=6813389e&hm=67bb3e70012e8d0c91076e94e366ab3f8d2ba2af7b30e039dc3ae9e1c1811e89& [17-Jul-23 04:28 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1130430931207987301/image.png?ex=68149058&is=68133ed8&hm=dd713ecdc0080cd248b219eb55d975559c365aa8111846c626ea3f56a4906a08& [17-Jul-23 05:18 AM] domicius#0000 Yeah. All you can store buffet [17-Jul-23 05:19 AM] domicius#0000 36k [17-Jul-23 07:55 AM] churavis#0000 The amount of junk I have seems to expand to fill the available space like toxic gas [17-Jul-23 11:48 AM] higgsy#0000 It's not free ๐Ÿ˜• [17-Jul-23 02:55 PM] churavis#0000 It's free if you post it as an ad on the CX [17-Jul-23 03:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 like this ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1130590652225290240/image.png?ex=68152518&is=6813d398&hm=d0aa8566380d610de39a85dd821234d4d11225892b6d5fdfedf579d1a72776a8& [17-Jul-23 03:58 PM] higgsy#0000 Ugh, that just feels cheap but I'll keep it in mind [17-Jul-23 05:14 PM] churavis#0000 It is the main purpose of the CX as far as we can tell {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘† [17-Jul-23 06:32 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, nobody buys from the CX anyways. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ [17-Jul-23 06:59 PM] churavis#0000 They don't buy from the CX, they relieve another's storage burden {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [17-Jul-23 08:14 PM] exeler#0000 The CX is just a leadboard of who has the most junk on display. ๐Ÿคฃ Buying from the CX is just an attempt to move up the leaderboard {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (4) [18-Jul-23 11:17 AM] higgsy#0000 Sooo.... If y'all could do me a favor.... There's a player, Dyncommon (Calorie Cache Company) who's been playing in ANT space for longer than I have and currently not in any corp. He's my ex. Would rather not have him be invited to OOG, if possible. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) ๐Ÿ˜‚ [18-Jul-23 02:20 PM] higgsy#0000 Thanks, y'all [18-Jul-23 02:20 PM] higgsy#0000 Is there any disadvantage to slightly overcrowding workers if there's no space for a Hab? For example, you're like 5 capacity for pioneers short. [18-Jul-23 02:23 PM] melon164#0000 you'll get a proportionate slowdown [18-Jul-23 02:24 PM] melon164#0000 so if you need 1000 PIOs but you only build habs for 900, your PIO efficiency will be multiplied by 90% [18-Jul-23 02:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, it's often fine to run a few short. Especially something like orchards, whihc use 70 settlers and 10 technicians. Not gonna build a hab for 10 people [18-Jul-23 02:46 PM] melon164#0000 If your agriculture planet even _has_ ten TECs [18-Jul-23 06:05 PM] churavis#0000 Just remember that the slower efficiency compounds when combined with other multipliers, so losing 10% efficiency in workers ends up with 16% less efficiency than what you could have otherwise, assuming full experts and COGC bonus {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [19-Jul-23 10:26 AM] higgsy#0000 Where do I find a key I can send to my friend for a month of pro free for them? I'm a supporter. [19-Jul-23 12:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://prosperousuniverse.com/perks/codes/ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Jul-23 08:21 PM] martin1194#0000 Is there any FAQ to start a base in a zero-population planet? [19-Jul-23 08:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 pretty straightforward, it just takes a little while. You get a happiness boost for the first 4 or 5 weeks to promote faster migration, but otherwise it's just waiting [19-Jul-23 08:30 PM] martin1194#0000 no need to build any thing? just make sure it have some stuffs to up keep? [19-Jul-23 09:26 PM] churavis#0000 It depends on the tier of workers you need [19-Jul-23 09:29 PM] martin1194#0000 just pioneer [19-Jul-23 09:30 PM] churavis#0000 You get 200 for free, if you need more super fast then maybe build SST [19-Jul-23 09:30 PM] martin1194#0000 These 200 no need up keep at 0lv SST? [19-Jul-23 09:32 PM] churavis#0000 One base produces enough life support for more pioneers than you can use but not enough to produce a ton of natural growth [19-Jul-23 09:57 PM] martin1194#0000 um, let me repeat what I understand. if it had mistake, please correct me. aAlso my gramma : P If i never put upkeep in Population Infrastructure, i can still have 200 pioneers if my base have upkeep. But if need more than 200 pioneers, I need to put upkeep in 0Lv Safety Station. Am I correct? [19-Jul-23 09:58 PM] churavis#0000 Without any infrastructure or ADM, you'll have 200, plus a slight increase every week [19-Jul-23 10:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 With no infrastructure and a single base, you can eventually support >= 400 pioneers [20-Jul-23 03:03 AM] martin1194#0000 I see. Thanks : P [20-Jul-23 07:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 Without infrastructure I was able to get up to 700 pio [20-Jul-23 05:21 PM] domicius#0000 Reupped for another 3 months. I think I have a problem ๐Ÿ˜œ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (3) ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [20-Jul-23 07:19 PM] churavis#0000 Only 3 months? I just bought another year [21-Jul-23 12:39 AM] domicius#0000 Showoff ๐Ÿ˜‚ [21-Jul-23 04:03 AM] rune_242#0000 sorry for my abscence everyone. Work was on fire but it's over now so I'm back in bussiness! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) [21-Jul-23 09:19 AM] allocater#0000 "never more than twelve" ... months ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Jul-23 01:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 anyone able to supply me with 1500 TUB on a monthly basis? Need it for Nike maintenance [21-Jul-23 02:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 also @churavis do you have any HABs or can you make me one? [21-Jul-23 03:26 PM] churavis#0000 I have 7 HAB in stock on ANT and all the inputs to make more within a few days if needed [21-Jul-23 03:27 PM] churavis#0000 Also, I could supply your TUB [21-Jul-23 09:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 what's your price for both? [21-Jul-23 09:41 PM] churavis#0000 As specified on the sheet: HAB 70k TUB 80 [21-Jul-23 09:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 Is the hab there? Thought I checked [21-Jul-23 09:50 PM] churavis#0000 I added it when I first offered today, at 2:26 [21-Jul-23 09:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 Ah okay, I only checked this morning [22-Jul-23 04:19 AM] martin1194#0000 Is there any tool / website is good to find a Advertising Campaign event in which planet? [22-Jul-23 04:30 AM] martin1194#0000 looking for 10 POW & 2SPfor HQ upgrade [22-Jul-23 05:14 AM] martin1194#0000 Which planet is Food inductry +25%? [22-Jul-23 05:20 AM] melon164#0000 Norwick IIRC [22-Jul-23 05:53 AM] allocater#0000 https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch?COGC=true&Rocky=true this has alle planets with COGC [22-Jul-23 10:59 AM] churavis#0000 I have SP on Nike and Phobos and I can have it on ANT within a day, POW I have on both Nike and ANT already, prices on sheet [22-Jul-23 06:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 added 307e, 401b and 639d to the spreadsheet [22-Jul-23 06:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 we probably need to do some more cleanup there [22-Jul-23 08:56 PM] martin1194#0000 can't filter the specific COGC. : ( Need Ctrl+F : (. btw thanks : P [23-Jul-23 05:57 AM] martin1194#0000 Thank you mate. : P contract sent. [25-Jul-23 10:01 AM] melon164#0000 Looking for someone to turn 200 MTP into MEA [25-Jul-23 09:02 PM] martin1194#0000 I have FP but I am afraid I can't cuz FP is in VH-311g. It's on HRT. It's too far to transport and needs a week [25-Jul-23 09:08 PM] higgsy#0000 I've got lots of FPs on Norwick [25-Jul-23 09:49 PM] martin1194#0000 how to rename a planet if i am governor [25-Jul-23 09:51 PM] churavis#0000 If a planet is unnamed currently, you can name it by donating extra money up to the Star level and then messaging Molp. There are also occasional events where they allow everyone to vote on a planet to name and then hold another vote to choose the name [26-Jul-23 03:30 AM] domicius#0000 Heya, is the game down for you guys? [26-Jul-23 03:34 AM] neth_havoc#0000 The Server is down because of the Liquidity update. [26-Jul-23 03:35 AM] domicius#0000 Cool cool [26-Jul-23 07:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, seems like it's still mostly down [26-Jul-23 07:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 Actually there's a button to name it, no messaging required. [26-Jul-23 11:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 bojidar has 32 ships... [26-Jul-23 11:28 AM] higgsy#0000 What. [26-Jul-23 11:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 he never talks here unless he needs something and never offers anything in return [26-Jul-23 11:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 so we're fairly frustrated with him [26-Jul-23 11:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 he always bids on my auctions and I just exclude him [26-Jul-23 11:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 until I see any auctions from him he gets nothing [26-Jul-23 11:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 one of the big conflicts 6 months ago or so was that he was still trying to get discounted ships from corp [26-Jul-23 11:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 which is clearly excessive ๐Ÿ˜ [26-Jul-23 11:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 That seems like more ships than could ever be used [26-Jul-23 12:24 PM] churavis#0000 He's a trader, you can see his stuff on every exchange. There's nothing wrong with trading, but if you don't contribute to the corp then you shouldn't be part of it or get any of it's benefits. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [26-Jul-23 12:42 PM] exeler#0000 If he offered some discounted CX->CX transportation with all of those ships we helped him build that would be awesome. [26-Jul-23 02:13 PM] allocater#0000 yes he runs a shipping empire, you can summon him by posting transport LMs on the CXs ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ฎ [26-Jul-23 02:17 PM] higgsy#0000 I can't imagine managing that many ships [26-Jul-23 02:27 PM] higgsy#0000 I already have a day job and another "job" (playing other video games) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [26-Jul-23 07:41 PM] martin1194#0000 I think we should regroup our company? There are some inactive member or some member only take benefit from corp. [26-Jul-23 09:48 PM] martin1194#0000 Is server still down? [26-Jul-23 09:50 PM] churavis#0000 Yes, it's 4am in Berlin so they're not likely to be up again for hours and then some [27-Jul-23 01:27 AM] allocater#0000 You can't regroup a company, it's decentralized and there is no controls. But you can decide who to offer dicounts too. [27-Jul-23 01:30 AM] exeler#0000 This discord server has controls ๐Ÿ˜ˆ [27-Jul-23 06:14 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 https://tenor.com/view/where-everything-is-made-up-whose-line-is-it-anyway-dont-matter-speech-gif-16818708 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/where-everything-is-made-up-whose-line-is-it-anyway-dont-matter-speech-gif-16818708 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/k2eKG2Yn8STGOflD7Qx9Wzr8IulW8McrvyKHs-vIG0w/https/media.tenor.com/P3KHbX7om4QAAAAD/where-everything-is-made-up-whose-line-is-it-anyway.png [27-Jul-23 06:14 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 My opinion of the points system [27-Jul-23 08:07 AM] zipatsu#0000 Just wanted to see where I ranked in some things but it's sadly not working properly yet ๐Ÿ˜ญ [27-Jul-23 08:29 AM] draconisdomini#0000 I still can't log in [27-Jul-23 08:29 AM] churavis#0000 I can log in at least [27-Jul-23 08:30 AM] draconisdomini#0000 Maybe they haven't got the Steam version working yet [27-Jul-23 08:30 AM] churavis#0000 Why would you use the Steam version at all? [27-Jul-23 08:31 AM] draconisdomini#0000 Because I use Steam for all of my games [27-Jul-23 08:32 AM] churavis#0000 They don't pay as much attention to the Steam version as they do the browser version, you'll have a much better time using a real browser instead of Steam's sickly child version [27-Jul-23 08:32 AM] draconisdomini#0000 It usually works fine [27-Jul-23 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 steam's just running chromium and connecting to the apex browser version [27-Jul-23 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 it works, but kinda silly ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Jul-23 09:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 oo Churavis has the highest company level in corp. I'll have to catch up to you ๐Ÿ˜› [27-Jul-23 09:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 Does CORPNP work for anyone? Hoping to start the apex center on nike [27-Jul-23 09:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 ooh #1 faction rep {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1134134937902125198/image.png?ex=6814daf8&is=68138978&hm=215aae049a5cce5ba1333035312af8c9e35a6dc999c7e9a78b84c372aed39417& [27-Jul-23 10:02 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, I can pull it up [27-Jul-23 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 also nice job on that, I gave up when no real gains ever materialized [27-Jul-23 10:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 it's really just a measure of how many of the 50 point contracts you get [27-Jul-23 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah, that'd do it [27-Jul-23 10:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can see CORPP, so if you can start the project on CORPNP, I can probably load up most of the materials [27-Jul-23 10:15 AM] higgsy#0000 Well that's a bug {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1134142116583456788/tempFileForShare_20230727-101523.jpg?ex=6814e1a7&is=68139027&hm=922161972ab2c0bda3b44723e02f4d20b28f044e5701937ea829e6361d8e4232& [27-Jul-23 10:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 Heh mine says 2 days per week too [27-Jul-23 10:29 AM] draconisdomini#0000 Oh, looks like ship repairs require SSC now too [27-Jul-23 10:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, but less plates [27-Jul-23 11:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 mine says 3, I think it only just started counting [27-Jul-23 11:24 AM] balbar#0000 anyone else has the "component failed to render"-error when trying to move ships? that one is VERY annoying... [27-Jul-23 11:27 AM] melon164#0000 yes, it's basically a hard block for me [27-Jul-23 11:27 AM] balbar#0000 i hope they fix this soonish [27-Jul-23 11:40 AM] churavis#0000 Maybe it's only counting since the update? {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [27-Jul-23 11:43 AM] churavis#0000 Good luck, I've had 3 PP4's working nonstop on it for almost a year now, the Afabs you need are just ridiculous [27-Jul-23 12:02 PM] churavis#0000 Before we start an APEX building, we need to make the most important decision of all: which plot to place it on. {Reactions} โ€ผ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (3) [27-Jul-23 12:23 PM] domicius#0000 Hmmmm. [27-Jul-23 12:41 PM] melon164#0000 Where is the spiritual heart of Antares? [27-Jul-23 12:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 hmmm... Deimos? [27-Jul-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 ANT is best known for the AL and fab industry [27-Jul-23 12:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 we have a lot of ship production as well [27-Jul-23 12:47 PM] churavis#0000 The spiritual heart of OOG is clearly on Nike, but where on the planet are the most oogs and boogs? [27-Jul-23 12:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 lol [27-Jul-23 12:48 PM] higgsy#0000 Sector 0064 80064 [27-Jul-23 01:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 My mats to build the Corp ARC center are on Nike ๐Ÿ˜‰ [27-Jul-23 01:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 The current breakdown of OOG bases is: [27-Jul-23 01:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 ooh lemme tweak that to remove old players [27-Jul-23 01:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1134187898128846879/image.png?ex=68150c4b&is=6813bacb&hm=875ecbd393128215719a36f82fe3b9f6adec10f4f4c4603b6dcb02ed8a999d24& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jul-23 01:32 PM] exeler#0000 I think he was saying which space on Nike specifically to put it on? Does the center take up a base plot? Which of the plots are we going to permanently remove as an option for someone to make a base on? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [27-Jul-23 01:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I like the one kinda shaped like a lopsided pentagon [27-Jul-23 01:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜› just pick whichever heh [27-Jul-23 04:26 PM] higgsy#0000 Next to the Infrastructure or Warehouses! [27-Jul-23 11:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like not too many people have done their personal Apex representation center. Right now if you go to `ARC` and click twice, for 210k AIC you'll be in the top 25 [27-Jul-23 11:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 2 mil gets you in the top 5 [28-Jul-23 12:11 AM] churavis#0000 Alright, I put the Corp APEX center right next to the Corp HQ. I've contributed my part, the code CORPP will get you to the Corp projects page [28-Jul-23 02:10 AM] melon164#0000 Wow, Ogrebeef bought my entire stock of HPR ๐Ÿ‘€ [28-Jul-23 08:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 Oy I needed one of those! ๐Ÿฅฒ [28-Jul-23 08:31 AM] melon164#0000 Well I have two more cooking, send me a CONTD for 1.5M on Heph and you can have it now [28-Jul-23 08:31 AM] melon164#0000 CX price will be 3M+ in future I think [28-Jul-23 12:03 PM] balbar#0000 LVL 34 will set you back 24.5M. didn't have anything better to do ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [28-Jul-23 12:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 Oh wait, actually I still want the HYR. These are really similar names ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ [28-Jul-23 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 Huh, didn't expect I'd be 25th in RAT production. Makes more sense I'm 4th in ALE and 6th in HMS though [28-Jul-23 12:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 @parisinspringtime supplying half the universe's HOPs ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jul-23 12:22 PM] melon164#0000 I have another HYR finishing in 3d [28-Jul-23 12:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 what's the price on that? [28-Jul-23 12:27 PM] melon164#0000 2.5M for corp, 5M public ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ [30-Jul-23 12:50 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey? A post in #auctions brings to mind that I might not be doing all I can do for the Corp. I won't lie, I've just been coasting for a while. Anything I can do? Needs be doing? [30-Jul-23 12:51 PM] emperyan11#0000 I do have my X-Boat available for emergency runs too. Usually parked at ANT unless it's doing planetary surveys for the logistics officer. [30-Jul-23 12:51 PM] emperyan11#0000 She'll make .5 past lightspeed [30-Jul-23 12:51 PM] churavis#0000 A1A needs a governor [30-Jul-23 12:52 PM] churavis#0000 Actually, Demeter needs one more [30-Jul-23 12:52 PM] emperyan11#0000 Man, that's on me for putting my hand up, lol [30-Jul-23 12:53 PM] emperyan11#0000 Not opposed .. but how time consuming would that be? [30-Jul-23 12:54 PM] emperyan11#0000 And would I need a base there? [30-Jul-23 12:55 PM] churavis#0000 You don't need a base there, you mostly just need to monitor the population and set a calendar reminder to make sure the COGC and infrastructure are funded, plus the occasional program if necessary, which we can reimburse you for. [30-Jul-23 12:57 PM] churavis#0000 If you did put a base on Demeter there would be plenty who would buy your crops or water [30-Jul-23 12:58 PM] emperyan11#0000 Could use a garden station tbh... free up some space on Deimos for more smelting / prefabs [30-Jul-23 12:59 PM] emperyan11#0000 You know what? I'll give it a go [30-Jul-23 01:00 PM] emperyan11#0000 Be a day or two to set up shop [30-Jul-23 06:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Honestly planets that are mostly pioneers are almost no work at all. Demeter is sitting at 18.8% safety and 30% health and it's doing fine. Ignore the POPI entirely and run the festival 3, and it will be totally fine. Or only provide DW, which is fairly cheap. Bring in a few basics for COGC. A shipful of goodies keep it stocked for many months at a time. This is what Demeter needs each week for the COGC [30-Jul-23 06:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1135355885561057370/image.png?ex=6814aed1&is=68135d51&hm=4f23299904df8acccc6ba87ae41c8222963a9259798c9d7f1b84b72be86062d8& [30-Jul-23 07:02 PM] higgsy#0000 How often do we get dividends? 75k AIC! ๐Ÿ’ฐ [30-Jul-23 08:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 It's the tax money from all the planets split in equal parts. It's every week [30-Jul-23 09:50 PM] higgsy#0000 So... Do we want Harmonia back? [30-Jul-23 09:56 PM] sage42#0000 We Ideally want as much of it as possible yes [30-Jul-23 09:57 PM] churavis#0000 If we have someone willing to take on the responsibility, yes. The new governor seems to frugile to be able to do a good job [30-Jul-23 09:58 PM] sage42#0000 Right now I can't even keep my bases running all the time, but I should have more shipping capacity by next election, I could take it on if needed. [30-Jul-23 10:10 PM] higgsy#0000 I don't anticipate Harmonia getting upkept well with caskman as governer. GTU is based around MOR and far more de-centralized than OOG. [31-Jul-23 10:43 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah there's no program running there also [31-Jul-23 10:43 AM] archielvahr#0000 I mean maybe that's not necessary on Harmonia, but I find it pretty effective [31-Jul-23 10:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's still sailing on Erix's contributions too, very little added by the new governor [31-Jul-23 04:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Total dividend income over time: http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_Ood62N1KY6.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_Ood62N1KY6.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-S_jKbakgBlglzV5fHwsekd0mBw6mggSy62YCD6botU/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_Ood62N1KY6.png [31-Jul-23 07:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 harmonia's gotta play at least a part [31-Jul-23 09:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think the recent decline is largely from Harmonia. Demeter didn't add anything to taxes and I think that's all we lost [31-Jul-23 09:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's nice someone else increased the taxes on harmonia for us, once we retake it ๐Ÿ˜› [31-Jul-23 09:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 I do wonder if some of the slow decline is players drifting out of the game [31-Jul-23 09:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 no real public metrics for that [31-Jul-23 09:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 anyway, it's $84 mil in dividends since I started tracking it [31-Jul-23 10:16 PM] higgsy#0000 I'm running for Harmonia. Expect questions! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [31-Jul-23 11:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Finally got around to updating my map of my empire: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1135786294367236197/image.png?ex=6814ee2a&is=68139caa&hm=91fb86fba20b2b34ef898f3533bf90cfdc6920f85425a47f0ce0361ba6749709& {Reactions} ๐Ÿงญ [31-Jul-23 11:35 PM] higgsy#0000 I'm stealing this very useful graphic for reference [31-Jul-23 11:37 PM] churavis#0000 http://prosperous.freecluster.eu/ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ [31-Jul-23 11:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, you can export it into SVG and find an SVG editor to clean it up [31-Jul-23 11:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 It was a hassle with the mediocre SVG editor I used though, so, be warned about that [31-Jul-23 11:44 PM] higgsy#0000 I think I'll just use yours ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Aug-23 11:53 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1135978651343671376/image.png?ex=6814f88f&is=6813a70f&hm=e1ef150d9c370e0c184e1716fa6109b343515c946f338d046797bbdb7283bae4& [01-Aug-23 11:53 AM] rune_242#0000 excuse me? [01-Aug-23 11:56 AM] allocater#0000 you can only delete 5 per day [01-Aug-23 11:56 AM] rune_242#0000 hmmmmm [01-Aug-23 12:23 PM] churavis#0000 It's to prevent penny wars and it's a rolling average so it's 24 hours after a deletion you'll get a new one available [01-Aug-23 01:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 huh never seen that, is it per mat? [01-Aug-23 01:26 PM] churavis#0000 Yes, it's per MAT [01-Aug-23 01:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah good [02-Aug-23 03:13 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1136210145660116992/image.png?ex=68152768&is=6813d5e8&hm=d577cb5007a83553ade5c290dd00e16840ff952ab9ab9933b7b2544c0cf5245d& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [02-Aug-23 03:13 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Perhaps a few too many [02-Aug-23 03:26 AM] domicius#0000 Lol,I'll take some off your hands. Need HSE occasionally [02-Aug-23 07:26 AM] draconisdomini#0000 And I thought I was probably producing a bit too much [02-Aug-23 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey, I just wanted to check up on a few folks who are still in the corp but seem to be inactive: @dehzhas @sginga @yuen8241 @namthorn I wanted to let you all know about the new update, in case you missed it. And see if you were interested in returning to the game or adding your accumulated dividend cash to either the OOG bank, the CORPARC, or your personal apex representation center. Or just let us know if you're definitely done for this universe too. (It will help me know if we should step up recruiting). Thanks! [03-Aug-23 07:24 AM] namthorn#0000 I think I'm done for this universe. Is there someone I can send my cash to to distribute accordingly? [03-Aug-23 07:29 AM] namthorn#0000 Or I can just dump it in the corparc if the bank has too much cash to know what to do with already [03-Aug-23 09:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Either allocater or the corp arc. Allocater can always dump it in the arc if we want to [03-Aug-23 09:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Aug-23 09:32 AM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1136667859062362186/image.png?ex=6814d76f&is=681385ef&hm=5488fc3a81a0ffd1a927c0a720e39a89ecbf8a359ff9ef57a9dcbdb2bd795ef6& {Reactions} โ›ˆ๏ธ (4) [03-Aug-23 12:02 PM] churavis#0000 What's the point of money if not to burn it in the most spectacular way possible? [03-Aug-23 06:19 PM] dehzhas#0000 Sorry, I forgot to leave the corp when I went AFK. I have been wanting to come back and now may be the time. I'm on vacation right now, so will log back in about a week and get started again. I will need to get caught up on the updates since I left. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [03-Aug-23 08:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 No worries! Glad to hear you will be coming back, enjoy the rest of the vacation! ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Aug-23 10:53 PM] martin1194#0000 May I get my friend join Ooga? He is a newbie. [03-Aug-23 10:53 PM] martin1194#0000 His first base in Harmonia. [03-Aug-23 10:54 PM] churavis#0000 Does he have PRO yet? [03-Aug-23 10:56 PM] martin1194#0000 Yes, he bought 1 year PRO when 15%off : P [03-Aug-23 11:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds good to me, invite him to the discord first, then we will do the customary trial period [04-Aug-23 12:08 AM] martin1194#0000 Nice. I sent him the link [04-Aug-23 07:12 AM] mrtcsmith#0000 Tell them to send me a contract for 1mil AIC [04-Aug-23 11:34 AM] fishhd#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (6) [04-Aug-23 11:55 AM] martin1194#0000 This is my friend [04-Aug-23 12:09 PM] martin1194#0000 um. After I asked him, he said "no" [04-Aug-23 12:10 PM] martin1194#0000 He like farming himself without sponsoring XDD [04-Aug-23 12:11 PM] higgsy#0000 Well, we are here for discounted products [04-Aug-23 01:17 PM] exeler#0000 A loan is also an option rather than a flat out gift. I was also in the camp of not accepting handouts early, but a loan applies some pressure to grow that the game otherwise doesn't have. [04-Aug-23 02:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @fishhd ! Be sure to check out the #welcome and #rules-faq. And let us know if you have any questions! [04-Aug-23 03:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 yes, yes, more people to be governors ๐Ÿฆนโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [04-Aug-23 07:39 PM] fishhd#0000 Ok , thank you [04-Aug-23 08:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll be on vacation for the next week (going to SIGGraph for work)... But I'm obviously bringing my laptop so no one will probably notice I'm not on as much as normal. [04-Aug-23 08:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Playing on a small laptop screen is pretty rough, but it beats the mobile version ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-23 10:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 I do like 50% through the mobile version... muscle memory ftw [04-Aug-23 11:34 PM] higgsy#0000 Sometimes I'm just too lazy to get up and turn on the PC {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [04-Aug-23 11:51 PM] syqel#0000 You turn your PC off? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [04-Aug-23 11:58 PM] higgsy#0000 Well, to poke it until it wakes up. I do let my PC sleep. I'm not a monster. [05-Aug-23 12:08 AM] churavis#0000 Sleeping is for chromebooks, real PCs run at 110% turbo all the time, day and night {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [05-Aug-23 03:22 AM] martin1194#0000 @fishhd You feel free to auction for any. You are a newbie and don't rush to sell stuff in Ooga first. Now you focus on your base construction first. [05-Aug-23 08:42 AM] fishhd#0000 Ok, thanks๐Ÿ˜‚ {Reactions} goodluck [05-Aug-23 10:31 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'm planning on setting up a manufacturing base on hephaestus. but the upcoming advertising program is chemistry. will it turn back to manufacturing after that? [05-Aug-23 11:00 AM] higgsy#0000 The advertising program depends on which program gets the most votes. [05-Aug-23 11:01 AM] higgsy#0000 The more faction contracts you do, the more votes you get. [05-Aug-23 11:03 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 ah, i see. thanks for this info. [05-Aug-23 11:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 not faction contracts, no, it's based on your employment [05-Aug-23 11:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 PIO are 1 vote per person, SET are 1.5 or something... it goes up like that [05-Aug-23 11:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah here [05-Aug-23 11:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 Worker type Influence multiplier Pioneer 1 Settler 1.25 Technician 1.5 Engineer 1.75 Scientist 2 [05-Aug-23 11:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html 6. Planetary Projects :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [05-Aug-23 11:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 also there's a bug that the COGC always shows the first choice made, not the choice with the most votes. That's probably why you see silly stuff sometimes, like Heph being chemistry. The most votes is still the one that actually happens {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [05-Aug-23 12:08 PM] melon164#0000 90%+ of the vote on Heph is for Manufacturing [06-Aug-23 11:39 PM] higgsy#0000 Is there ever a point where I should demolish a building rather than repair it? [06-Aug-23 11:39 PM] higgsy#0000 Like, does a repaired 180 day building perform worse than a new building? [06-Aug-23 11:52 PM] churavis#0000 It's the same amount of mats to repair at 180 or build new [07-Aug-23 12:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 And whenever it's repaired, it's "like new" in every way [07-Aug-23 02:03 AM] melon164#0000 Does anyone run an IDC base I could lease for a week to make a pile of SNM? I'll bring all the inputs and pay for the lost IDC output. [07-Aug-23 02:13 AM] melon164#0000 And does anyone run an EDC base I could lease for a few days to make a pile of inputs for the previous enquiry? ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [07-Aug-23 02:56 AM] martin1194#0000 looking for PE [07-Aug-23 02:56 AM] martin1194#0000 forgot it [07-Aug-23 02:57 AM] martin1194#0000 PE in CX 7@1. i thought it should expenive XDD [07-Aug-23 03:01 AM] domicius#0000 How much do you need? [07-Aug-23 03:02 AM] domicius#0000 No. Cheap as chips [07-Aug-23 04:02 AM] melon164#0000 I think a week's worth of a 20ร—IDC base produces about 80 SNM? I don't really need that many though, more like 20 or 30? [07-Aug-23 05:15 AM] domicius#0000 Hahaha.... No. Not 80 SNM [07-Aug-23 05:16 AM] domicius#0000 2 SNM takes 36 hours. [07-Aug-23 05:17 AM] domicius#0000 IDC takes 18 Hours. [07-Aug-23 05:20 AM] domicius#0000 And you need 1 WAI for each SNM and 1 IMM, 36 hrs and 27 hrs [07-Aug-23 05:20 AM] domicius#0000 All this at 132% efficiency [07-Aug-23 05:22 AM] domicius#0000 I do, however, have a stockpile of the necessary materials and can make you the required SNM. [07-Aug-23 05:23 AM] domicius#0000 I mean, if someone has a base that is just SL and has the inputs it can go faster. A 20x IDC daily base could do it... That's 15 SLs though [07-Aug-23 05:23 AM] domicius#0000 Anyway... [07-Aug-23 05:27 AM] domicius#0000 Hmmmm.... With a bit of investment I could actually build another 5 SLs and pump out IDC. The bottleneck for WAI though is the SDs [07-Aug-23 05:28 AM] domicius#0000 Didn't mean to be rude BTW. Was just surprised by the calculations. Making t SNM is pretty involved. [07-Aug-23 09:06 AM] allocater#0000 I have it on malahat, also EDC bases are there, so you can use it as a production chain [07-Aug-23 09:11 AM] allocater#0000 gotta bring a lot of SA SAL NF LD though, so maybe it's easier to slow-buy SNM from domicius [07-Aug-23 09:12 AM] allocater#0000 or NV1 from me, unless you want NV2 [07-Aug-23 09:15 AM] domicius#0000 I mean, it's only slow because I'm mostly engaged making WAI and SNM for Allocater ๐Ÿ˜‚. But if I don't make IDC for a while, I should be able to crank it out in a couple of weeks. Let me know, anyway. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [07-Aug-23 09:28 AM] churavis#0000 You could move your lower tier electronics production to Antares I a to free up room on Phobos [07-Aug-23 09:30 AM] domicius#0000 Sounds like a good plan [07-Aug-23 01:18 PM] melon164#0000 I do want NV2, yes; want to have a good inventory before starting AAFs [07-Aug-23 01:18 PM] melon164#0000 First step is to turn some of these into NN I guess {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1138174467860861028/image.png?ex=68150c93&is=6813bb13&hm=8404d86afed5fda101c33a733aa40d6fb38c89bb7ae4bb15525726950691c7f8& [07-Aug-23 01:21 PM] churavis#0000 I make NV2 and BR2 [07-Aug-23 02:18 PM] melon164#0000 I know that, I'm trying to support my market for HPR ๐Ÿ˜‰ [07-Aug-23 02:18 PM] melon164#0000 I shall be sure to overcut you on CX ๐Ÿ˜‰ [07-Aug-23 02:24 PM] allocater#0000 bring it all to malahat and we can churn it through SE and SL [07-Aug-23 02:26 PM] allocater#0000 would be 20k per NN [07-Aug-23 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I make a small amount of SNM on Phobos, might not be enough to be helpful though. I do have BMF though. And a Malahat SE base {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [07-Aug-23 02:36 PM] allocater#0000 I can already set up the NN contracts to me, depending on which of the 4 SE bases will participate [07-Aug-23 02:39 PM] allocater#0000 @sage42 @neth_havoc @draconisdomini who wants to produce 10 NN? [07-Aug-23 02:43 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I doesn't make much difference to me what my Malahat base is producing. If you give me the inputs I'm happy to make some NN {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [07-Aug-23 02:44 PM] allocater#0000 inputs come from melon [07-Aug-23 02:48 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Roger. Send me contracts for the inputs melon and I'll get those in production {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [07-Aug-23 02:55 PM] allocater#0000 Archiel will also need inputs for 10 NN, so we have 20/30 planned [07-Aug-23 02:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's such a small difference for HPR to HYR, I figure it's always better to make that jump. Especially since with an LCB, it's 1.2ps/h, a 35% faster ship... [07-Aug-23 02:59 PM] allocater#0000 30 DV we can also already start, that leaves inputs for 30 DA and 30 DD [07-Aug-23 03:07 PM] martin1194#0000 looking for PWO [07-Aug-23 09:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Did anyone else listen to the livestream? They announced player constructible space stations for the next update (although they haven't really started on it) [07-Aug-23 10:07 PM] churavis#0000 I did, not only player constructable space stations but also space elevators within the next year [07-Aug-23 10:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah, did they say what Space Elevators did? I had to stop midway through [07-Aug-23 10:08 PM] churavis#0000 The most explanation they gave was: "players can imagine what they would do" [07-Aug-23 10:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿค” [07-Aug-23 10:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean.. I can [07-Aug-23 10:09 PM] churavis#0000 And that it would be a material benefit [07-Aug-23 10:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 We have plenty of things without material benefit, so that's good ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Aug-23 10:09 PM] churavis#0000 I imagine it would mean you can skip the landing and takeoff phase of a journey to the planet [08-Aug-23 12:02 AM] domicius#0000 That would save a bunch of fuel. [08-Aug-23 12:03 AM] churavis#0000 It would save time and damage, especially on some planets [08-Aug-23 08:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 the space stations would be so nice [08-Aug-23 08:18 AM] churavis#0000 What do you assume they would do? [08-Aug-23 08:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 we can just post our corp priced items there, finally. Not sure it was next update though, sounds like next was translations [08-Aug-23 08:19 AM] churavis#0000 They said it would be within the year [08-Aug-23 08:19 AM] hernanduer#0000 right, so 4 updates [08-Aug-23 08:19 AM] hernanduer#0000 space elevators will be cool too, not sure how it will work as its a public/private partnership or even entirely privately owned [08-Aug-23 08:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 sounds like they'll need new boundaries on interactions that don't currently exist [08-Aug-23 08:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 also might be unintentional nerf to somewhere like promitor, since I assume it'll take a plot of land and they're all out [08-Aug-23 08:21 AM] churavis#0000 They also mentioned that they were going to update politics so that planetary governments would get their own accounts to recieve taxes and then pay out contracts to build infrastructure to players [08-Aug-23 08:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, and to stock infrastructure too [08-Aug-23 08:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 not sure about the legislature though, they didn't seem to know much about that one [08-Aug-23 08:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 yet [08-Aug-23 08:22 AM] churavis#0000 They also said they were planning on dropping the one governorship per player rule so that will be nice [08-Aug-23 08:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 definitely [08-Aug-23 08:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 let's see how long it takes for someone to get voted in as governor for all of a faction's core worlds [08-Aug-23 08:24 AM] churavis#0000 The big world's are usually quite coveted but I could definitely see some enterprising individuals with a dozen governorships of mostly small, sparsely populated worlds where no one else wants the responsibility [08-Aug-23 08:26 AM] draconisdomini#0000 I would guess space elevators would work like the other planetary infrastructure. Perhaps like the warehouse in needing to be expanded to increase shipment capacity [09-Aug-23 01:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 so... much... CHEMISTRY [09-Aug-23 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 my new plan is to basically pick up my Griff base's 8 LABs, move those to into 10 LABs Elon, and pick all my 10 CHP and 8 POL on Elon and move them to a new base on Electronica. Then make Griff into 6 AML + 1 EEP [09-Aug-23 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 then I can move into engine production [09-Aug-23 01:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 but maybe Elon is better suited for AML + EEP? the population charts are interesting [09-Aug-23 02:05 PM] churavis#0000 I make MG on Elon so if you want to save some space then you can buy it from me and get a bulk discount. [09-Aug-23 02:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd still have to have the EXT for AUO extraction [09-Aug-23 02:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 but thanks [09-Aug-23 02:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 think I'll do 5 AML + 1 EEP on Elon, 1 AML + 10 LAB on Griff, it's an interesting setup, requires fewer changes though [09-Aug-23 02:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 then a PHF even fits on Elon [09-Aug-23 04:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I need 10 BAI and 10 MLI to make my 10 NN on Malahat - @melon164 The DV I am making are almost done [09-Aug-23 05:32 PM] melon164#0000 Will arrive in the morning [10-Aug-23 01:40 AM] melon164#0000 Contracts sent [10-Aug-23 10:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh I have multiple contracts for the NN from Allocater and Melon [10-Aug-23 11:00 AM] melon164#0000 I see, that's why you rejected mine [10-Aug-23 11:01 AM] melon164#0000 Probably best to send them to Allocater, since he's going to be making the WAI with them {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Aug-23 11:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 okay cool. Keep sending me mats and I will keep making stuff! [10-Aug-23 02:20 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I also need inputs for making NN [10-Aug-23 03:18 PM] melon164#0000 Sent {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Aug-23 07:28 PM] rune_242#0000 does anybody need an H delivery? [10-Aug-23 07:28 PM] churavis#0000 I always need more H everywhere [10-Aug-23 07:28 PM] rune_242#0000 where first? [10-Aug-23 07:28 PM] churavis#0000 Are you delivering or am I picking up? [10-Aug-23 07:29 PM] rune_242#0000 I am delivering [10-Aug-23 07:29 PM] rune_242#0000 if you are picking it's 40/u on KI-401d [10-Aug-23 07:32 PM] churavis#0000 I'll pick it up myself in a few days if you'll send me a sell contract for 2k [10-Aug-23 07:32 PM] rune_242#0000 sure [10-Aug-23 07:33 PM] rune_242#0000 can I send 2? [10-Aug-23 07:33 PM] rune_242#0000 you have 99 days until pickup [10-Aug-23 07:34 PM] churavis#0000 If you want but I don't know when I'll be able to pick up the second one so it will lock up your inventory for a while [10-Aug-23 07:34 PM] rune_242#0000 thats ok {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [11-Aug-23 04:21 AM] rune_242#0000 but I still have no place for delivery [11-Aug-23 04:33 PM] higgsy#0000 Buying PE, KV, NL, TCS, and EPO on ANT. [11-Aug-23 04:44 PM] churavis#0000 I have plenty of HSE in stock on ANT and Nike [11-Aug-23 10:45 PM] exeler#0000 I think I've got some PE and EPO laying around. I'll run an auction [11-Aug-23 11:19 PM] higgsy#0000 I was looking to sell higher tier prefabs since they're my money maker at the moment. Is it a good market? [11-Aug-23 11:20 PM] churavis#0000 Yes, but only if you can make your own inputs. That's the hard part and the reason they aren't cheaper. [11-Aug-23 11:22 PM] higgsy#0000 I make EPO, AL, FLX, and C. Just running low on EPO until I expand. [11-Aug-23 11:22 PM] churavis#0000 RSE uses so much EPO, it's ridiculous [11-Aug-23 11:22 PM] higgsy#0000 But is it profitable...? ๐Ÿค” [11-Aug-23 11:23 PM] churavis#0000 That's the game, figuring it out is the fun of it [11-Aug-23 11:23 PM] higgsy#0000 True dat [12-Aug-23 03:10 PM] martin1194#0000 If I build a base at NA% Soil fertility. I can't build FRM in that planet? [12-Aug-23 03:11 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1140014629750317086/image.png?ex=681526dc&is=6813d55c&hm=63f2e9887e6773e8f9923d6cd75ffe74f92b0fef5ef21d53d412bd31f3702658& [12-Aug-23 03:11 PM] rune_242#0000 Nope [12-Aug-23 03:11 PM] rune_242#0000 Only HYF [12-Aug-23 03:13 PM] rune_242#0000 Do you already have a base on harmonia, demeter and proxion? [12-Aug-23 03:14 PM] martin1194#0000 harmonia , demeter yes [12-Aug-23 03:14 PM] martin1194#0000 proxion still haven't [12-Aug-23 03:15 PM] rune_242#0000 Proxion has good fertility [12-Aug-23 03:16 PM] rune_242#0000 And farm GOGC [12-Aug-23 03:18 PM] martin1194#0000 where is it? [12-Aug-23 03:18 PM] rune_242#0000 Proxion [12-Aug-23 03:18 PM] martin1194#0000 I can't find the full location address [12-Aug-23 03:18 PM] martin1194#0000 opps. I can search it from fleet. forgotten : P [13-Aug-23 01:20 AM] allocater#0000 @melon164 how do we do 30 DA and 30 DD? [13-Aug-23 03:23 AM] melon164#0000 I think I have all the ingredients on Malahat now [13-Aug-23 03:24 AM] melon164#0000 Cost should be related to the opportunity cost of IDC, presumablyโ€ฆ [13-Aug-23 03:26 AM] allocater#0000 ok send it to your favorite SE base and I will buy from them 20k/DA and 25k/DD [13-Aug-23 03:34 AM] allocater#0000 this is the chain with free inputs: DA 20k DD 25k => IMM 70k NN 20k => WAI 60k DV 20k => SNM 95k [13-Aug-23 05:13 AM] melon164#0000 Sent ingredients for 15u each of DA/DD to Archiel and Draconis {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Aug-23 11:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 got a new guy who reached out to me, interested in us {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [13-Aug-23 11:10 AM] churavis#0000 Does he have pro? [13-Aug-23 11:15 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah [13-Aug-23 11:19 AM] allocater#0000 invite him https://discord.gg/5Cnrt3Pc [13-Aug-23 11:19 AM] hernanduer#0000 already did {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [13-Aug-23 03:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey, I'm back from my vacation... and I got sick at the end of the trip so I've been out of it. I see I have some SE work I will start asap. I hope I haven't been holding it up! [13-Aug-23 03:34 PM] hernanduer#0000 ugh I know that feeling, I got the flu right as we were about to come back from Italy a few weeks ago [13-Aug-23 03:34 PM] hernanduer#0000 didn't sleep at all really, before having to fly for 14 hours {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿคข [13-Aug-23 04:38 PM] domicius#0000 Classic holiday flu. The body relaxes and the flu kicks in [13-Aug-23 04:51 PM] churavis#0000 Relaxing doesn't make you sick, jet lagged lack of sleep and unhealthy travel food make you sick [13-Aug-23 05:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 definitely the lack of sleep that time, didn't sleep well leading up to it. Then the fever gave me a resting heart rate of 90, gl going to sleep with that [13-Aug-23 05:50 PM] pateirn#0000 Joined the server. [13-Aug-23 05:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah, there he is, welcome! [13-Aug-23 05:52 PM] pateirn#0000 Hey hey! Sorry been out of town all day! Thanks for the welcome! [13-Aug-23 05:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 no worries, we're relaxed around here [13-Aug-23 05:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 take a look at the welcome channel, it has the details for how we work with new members here [13-Aug-23 05:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 any questions, feel free to ask here [13-Aug-23 05:54 PM] pateirn#0000 Awesome, reading now, thank you! [13-Aug-23 08:27 PM] pateirn#0000 Everything look awesome! I'd like to join, I understand it is pending my trial basis. [13-Aug-23 08:49 PM] martin1194#0000 I remember someone was wanna to long-term import Agricultural before; I forgot who wants. I got suck before, right now. I can handle myself. So, is there anyone need long-term import Arg stuffs? [13-Aug-23 09:06 PM] martin1194#0000 I remember someone was wanna to long [14-Aug-23 10:23 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-team-gif-21997330 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-team-gif-21997330 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PbgGor1D6e3-DLsTybo8AWI6c9I7GmJ0LrfFNVzzQ0k/https/media.tenor.com/gVynfV-eRtEAAAAD/welcome-to-the-team.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ [14-Aug-23 11:04 AM] dehzhas#0000 Iโ€™m baaaaaaack!!! Restarting my bases after a long absence is going to take a bit, but excited to get back into prun. Going to slow my roll a bit this time, canโ€™t handle the logistics of what I was doing last time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (6) ๐Ÿ˜Ž (3) ๐Ÿฅณ [14-Aug-23 11:05 AM] dehzhas#0000 @melon164 you joined OOG? [14-Aug-23 11:05 AM] melon164#0000 Yup {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [14-Aug-23 11:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-independence-day-kamikaze-gif-18515037 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-independence-day-kamikaze-gif-18515037 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YarIBjfynj21FyBth_htwCm_6obJyYn2giQN4RIE6hc/https/media.tenor.com/rBGwBSz5iVgAAAAD/independence-day-independence.png [14-Aug-23 11:59 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-back-minions-gif-11950499 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-back-minions-gif-11950499 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/59OjytCGmnN9W3XH5Zs4mmJZZYtbuVYIWy18rvalUII/https/media.tenor.com/FjUd6NvVRnMAAAAD/welcome-back-minions.png [14-Aug-23 12:58 PM] fremen45#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (6) [14-Aug-23 02:21 PM] domicius#0000 Welcome! [14-Aug-23 04:43 PM] tuffyless#0000 Joined the server. [14-Aug-23 04:46 PM] tuffyless#0000 ๐Ÿ‘‹ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [14-Aug-23 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Should be 1.5d for my software projects to be done on Malahat [14-Aug-23 05:47 PM] fremen45#0000 I might already have 9 NN available not sure how useful those would be or what the rate would be for them? [14-Aug-23 05:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think the NNs are made already for melon164's SNM project.. But there are people in the corp who are regularly buying NNs (or WAI) [14-Aug-23 05:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 By the way, welcome aboard ๐Ÿ˜„ both to you and @tuffyless ! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [14-Aug-23 05:49 PM] fremen45#0000 Not yet making WAI. Just NN as of now. [14-Aug-23 05:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 Check out the #welcome channel and the #rules-faq . If you have stuff you would like to regularly sell, add yourself to the Corporate Spreadsheet, and people will contact you directly to buy your stuff [14-Aug-23 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 We've also been using our new auction bot for that recently [14-Aug-23 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 But filling out the corp sheet is a good way to let everyone know what your bases are and what you're making ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Aug-23 05:51 PM] fremen45#0000 Okay thanks. [14-Aug-23 05:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also, whenever either of you feel the urge to govern a planet, let us know and we can make that happen ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Aug-23 06:22 PM] tuffyless#0000 Alotta familiar names here! Have seen ya'll around the block here and there although really never chatted with. [14-Aug-23 06:24 PM] tuffyless#0000 May hit ya up about governing after getting the chaos put back into order from recent events. ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Aug-23 06:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 there's plenty of planets, don't worry [14-Aug-23 07:42 PM] martin1194#0000 Hello! everyone. I'm here to find someone who need to long-term buy SME stuff. now, I long term export AL to 2 members in Ooga. feel free to ask if want to export SME stuff in the future. [14-Aug-23 07:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 I buy a ton of AL on the CX [14-Aug-23 07:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 about 100/d [14-Aug-23 07:54 PM] martin1194#0000 I can't cover ur burning. But I will add u in export list. [14-Aug-23 07:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 no worries, I'll take anything extra, preferably delivered on ANT [14-Aug-23 07:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have several planets that eat it [14-Aug-23 07:55 PM] martin1194#0000 I prefer supply in ANT not deimos? [14-Aug-23 07:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 Deimos only uses about 20/d for me [14-Aug-23 07:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 so ANT is easier access for moving it around {Reactions} goodluck [14-Aug-23 08:38 PM] fremen45#0000 I donโ€™t produce ALO but I do have 37 SMEโ€™s at my disposal. [14-Aug-23 09:23 PM] tuffyless#0000 I gota PLI not listed on tab 1 of the spreadsheet - just gunna skip over 'it for now. SE-648a for LIO/LI [14-Aug-23 10:13 PM] higgsy#0000 My Deimos is full AL and a bit of STL prod. Any AL not going to Nike is auctioned off on ANT. I'll update the spreadsheet at a later date. [15-Aug-23 02:42 AM] martin1194#0000 forgot to let you know. now I mostly sell at 500@1. Is the price ok for u? [15-Aug-23 08:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 any price below CX is fine with me ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Aug-23 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 I just noticed this configuration I've had for a few months now, they're all still in sync ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1141011022686212126/cool.png?ex=6814d252&is=681380d2&hm=3b0a6accd2856039ccbbfced21f2ecc25b36c83c23fdcf337b2ee591c6cb96ef& [15-Aug-23 09:11 AM] churavis#0000 The update reset all my production and started it all out in sync [15-Aug-23 09:13 AM] hernanduer#0000 that makes me sad [15-Aug-23 12:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 actually I misread your sentence, I thought you said out OF sync. okay that makes me feel good then ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Aug-23 05:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Does anyone know AceBaron? Very much an ant-focused player [15-Aug-23 07:08 PM] churavis#0000 Does anyone mine HE anywhere? [15-Aug-23 07:38 PM] pateirn#0000 I was looking at the corp sheet for this earlier. Was thinking of tapping ZV-639 e for it. [15-Aug-23 07:39 PM] churavis#0000 Let me know if you need help setting that up {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Aug-23 07:52 PM] exeler#0000 I have tons of HE. The tap I set up a while ago has been going. [15-Aug-23 07:53 PM] pateirn#0000 Oooooh, that makes this plan I am working on irrelevant then lol [15-Aug-23 07:53 PM] churavis#0000 The market ran out, it might still be worth it [15-Aug-23 07:53 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, I've got a base with a couple of buildings on it that's overproducing HE. If we need more, I can scale up like 10X without needing another permit. [15-Aug-23 07:54 PM] exeler#0000 I've been specifically not selling it on the market. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Aug-23 07:54 PM] pateirn#0000 Well I would be interested in buying some ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Aug-23 07:57 PM] exeler#0000 I've got 950 on ANT right now. Send me a contract for however much you want, just make up a price. I basically print this stuff for free. If you need more, I've got 3.5k just waiting at the source I can ship in. [15-Aug-23 08:28 PM] churavis#0000 Now's your chance to liquidate some on the CX [15-Aug-23 09:56 PM] pateirn#0000 Ty! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฑ [16-Aug-23 12:42 PM] higgsy#0000 Can someone check that I've entered my prices correctly on the corp prod sheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=489658022 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,ZV-307e,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,QJ-382c,QJ-382g # OF BASES >>,12,15,23,3,20,1,17,5,3,1,1,25,14,7,12,8,7,1,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/s_jQJs-hrRrBhBV5vENwLo8NPIcTrDrgRLkkoXmIM54/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/AOD9vFrKUSS7n6z6S6HYgRkdUyBMimd8M2iHYD2khXwBKKw1qpQg7DqeGi0u0W_TRg-1JgWSXmlm8iA475ZBnwRMzdLZF4Rtz452IMYJDIvnA-w2%3Dw1200-h630-p [16-Aug-23 12:44 PM] higgsy#0000 They aren't populating in the search [16-Aug-23 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 I will fix it! [16-Aug-23 01:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 There were a few invisible fields I needed to fill in [16-Aug-23 01:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll also sort out retired players in a bit {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Aug-23 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 which is done now. [16-Aug-23 04:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also @allocater and @melon164 all my software is delivered, although I think I have a duplicate contract for 10 more NN. I can make them if we need more, but I'd need mats for them [17-Aug-23 01:23 AM] melon164#0000 I do indeed have inputs for ten more NN ๐Ÿค” [17-Aug-23 01:29 AM] fremen45#0000 I also happen to have like 30 some of each of the NN inputs if needed. [18-Aug-23 12:43 PM] churavis#0000 Swanada pulled a reverse-allocater on the RAT market: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1142151722534440981/image.png?ex=6815042e&is=6813b2ae&hm=fda2536fd81730dcff49669b7222e0436910139e04b61b6f7f29145321b80492& [18-Aug-23 12:44 PM] churavis#0000 Hortus and Moria too [18-Aug-23 12:50 PM] allocater#0000 dayum, I only saw hortus and already dumped 15k [18-Aug-23 12:51 PM] churavis#0000 He did make a mistake in not setting the prices to be the same all over, that presents and arbitrage opportunity for anyone with a free hauler [18-Aug-23 12:52 PM] allocater#0000 or it's a trap, and when you buy on ANT, he will remove the hortus buy ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Aug-23 12:52 PM] churavis#0000 If he removes the hortus buy then you can undercut his sell order [18-Aug-23 12:53 PM] allocater#0000 or he wants to move RAT and this is the way of paying for the transport ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Aug-23 12:54 PM] churavis#0000 I'm quite certain a shipping order would have been simpler and cheaper [18-Aug-23 12:54 PM] allocater#0000 since I already sold on hortus, I can now actually already buy back on ANT [18-Aug-23 01:12 PM] martin1194#0000 200k RAT @@ [18-Aug-23 01:51 PM] churavis#0000 Were now on level 39 thanks to Erix {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1142168972159111168/image.png?ex=6815143f&is=6813c2bf&hm=e4a021b45f4aba8d2b0181d4ba586ab000acc032d4f80e714e38e92687871e21& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž (3) [18-Aug-23 02:50 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1142183748004233306/Screenshot_20230819_035018_Chrome.jpg?ex=68152202&is=6813d082&hm=fdc00788dbb163b9887249a0d9e9affbe661f391c4532ba7b095395856223265& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข (2) ๐Ÿ–– (2) ๐Ÿซก (2) [18-Aug-23 02:50 PM] martin1194#0000 :catbop: [18-Aug-23 02:57 PM] martin1194#0000 Who need N regularly? I tired to make auction and forgot to complete very time ๐Ÿ˜› [18-Aug-23 03:03 PM] dehzhas#0000 I do!! I Forget how much exactly. [18-Aug-23 03:05 PM] martin1194#0000 50@1 ant Or 40@1 pick up Ur own [18-Aug-23 03:06 PM] martin1194#0000 How many do u need each month/week? [18-Aug-23 03:20 PM] dehzhas#0000 Looks like 3k/week. Where is the pickup? [18-Aug-23 03:20 PM] dehzhas#0000 I probably will pickup [18-Aug-23 03:58 PM] churavis#0000 We're not the only ones who have seen the arbitrage opportunity, these are all for 476 units of RAT: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1142200972848943195/image.png?ex=6814894c&is=681337cc&hm=b6b58a2fd6173292b9a675e31c1414e364971e156106d9f21ceeec3d08cfa76d& {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ [18-Aug-23 04:00 PM] churavis#0000 15 shipments of 476 makes 7,140, plus whatever already got picked up [18-Aug-23 09:49 PM] martin1194#0000 ZV-639 d [18-Aug-23 09:50 PM] martin1194#0000 How many N each contract do you prefer? [18-Aug-23 09:53 PM] dehzhas#0000 2k each contract, fits nicely on a ship [18-Aug-23 11:31 PM] martin1194#0000 Nice. I will mark in my note. [18-Aug-23 11:33 PM] martin1194#0000 May I ask, our corp is base on ANT. But why there are no one produce electronic?:catbop: Is it electronic demand not too high? [18-Aug-23 11:33 PM] churavis#0000 I just sold you a bunch of electronics [18-Aug-23 11:35 PM] martin1194#0000 That's gas. : O {Reactions} โ“ [18-Aug-23 11:39 PM] martin1194#0000 Not O ? [18-Aug-23 11:40 PM] churavis#0000 You were asking about electronics, why no one produces electronics. I produce electronics, I just sold you AAR and BWS, which are electronics. [18-Aug-23 11:41 PM] churavis#0000 Oh wait, that was someone else. In any case, I have two electronics bases [19-Aug-23 12:25 AM] domicius#0000 I produce mainly electronics [19-Aug-23 12:26 AM] domicius#0000 Also, a stack of building materials which I generally hoard for no good reason. [19-Aug-23 12:35 AM] churavis#0000 Upgrade your HQ, that's what I do with my extra building MATs [19-Aug-23 12:47 AM] domicius#0000 Good idea! [19-Aug-23 10:46 PM] martin1194#0000 Sorry. maybe I will prefer deimos in future. I found I had storage issue and can't wait ship take AL to ANT. : P [19-Aug-23 10:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah, I won't need any more for some time then [19-Aug-23 10:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 I already run Deimos close to full storage [19-Aug-23 10:49 PM] martin1194#0000 u only need it at ANT, not Deimos. I see. So, I only can supply you when the ship arrives :P. [19-Aug-23 10:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, basically. Deimos is now at 30d stockpile of AL ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Aug-23 10:52 PM] martin1194#0000 You will not send ur ship and pick it out. : O? [19-Aug-23 11:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 My ships only visit like every week or more [20-Aug-23 12:53 AM] martin1194#0000 I see [21-Aug-23 06:21 AM] martin1194#0000 @fishhd yay. Sorry for pinging. Is Ooga good for you joining? I remember it had 7days ago. : P Remember to add your name in excel if u feel good in Ooga https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,ZV-307e,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,QJ-382c,QJ-382g # OF BASES >>,12,15,23,3,20,1,17,5,3,1,1,25,14,7,12,8,7,1,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings, ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IuJhEkD8Q0EGBs7M1QyTBWSvN6P_i4u1rtYjT3NRLUc/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/AOD9vFo-9chDjdeen5ZyuXVQa2UNEefDTsulLebfMf5Tdz026VUCAJ9HTXIJVuu4CRsfgm0FKcxoPlPYBECMds4T_3fKJKUfNnYJLJ8HkJP1ANkq%3Dw1200-h630-p [21-Aug-23 07:12 AM] fishhd#0000 can I join it ? thank you [21-Aug-23 09:15 AM] martin1194#0000 I will teach u how to use/input excel later. I also haven't update excel for while. :catbop: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [21-Aug-23 09:15 AM] martin1194#0000 Is there i can invite godshana51? Or need approve by allocater? [21-Aug-23 12:06 PM] allocater#0000 anyone can invite [21-Aug-23 04:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! [21-Aug-23 05:49 PM] pateirn#0000 Welcome! I am new too! [21-Aug-23 06:53 PM] higgsy#0000 Welcome! [21-Aug-23 08:09 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1143351229028777994/image.png?ex=6814c40f&is=6813728f&hm=e1d1c97ae8039198d5dbf4739b2866153552e79a1e6f55617e949cc9ddd9c5de& [21-Aug-23 08:09 PM] martin1194#0000 RAT price resume normal in ANT [22-Aug-23 09:32 PM] dehzhas#0000 I haven't advertised it here since I was looking for a general broad spectrum of investors so it wasn't just an OOG thing, but I did offer an IPO. Several OOG members did invest, so I thought I would mention it in case anyone else wanted a piece of the action. This is probably the only time I will mention it here. Details: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/garson-kilman-industries/5948/1 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/garson-kilman-industries/5948/1 Garson Kilman Industries Garson Kilman Industries IPO I have decided to experiment with creating an investment structure for GKI as an IPO. My goal is to make investing in GKI stock return more than the equivalent cash loaned out at more than 3% per week. Company Value: Since it is possible that I will take a break or leave the game at some point, the company value ne... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [23-Aug-23 12:09 AM] fremen45#0000 does anyone have fabs on ANT that I can buy? [23-Aug-23 08:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 just post what you need and people will speak up, but typically buying them on Nike is more common [23-Aug-23 10:10 AM] higgsy#0000 I've got a few on ANT [23-Aug-23 10:23 AM] allocater#0000 if you want, the OOG bank will buy all remaining shares once you close the round. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Aug-23 12:06 PM] higgsy#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1143954319780106290/tempFileForShare_20230823-120532.jpg?ex=6814fb7b&is=6813a9fb&hm=4f3b35882e75250a1feea5051513df30a38133be6dae90164e9b021d1e74d966& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Aug-23 12:09 PM] higgsy#0000 Dang notification should specify which base. /s {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [23-Aug-23 01:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you haven't been watching the piracy channel, I recommend blocking `co PIER` {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [23-Aug-23 01:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Seems to be ongoing piracy [23-Aug-23 01:32 PM] fremen45#0000 That guy is literally running a hostage ransom gig off of shipping contracts. [23-Aug-23 01:53 PM] exeler#0000 That's one way to play an economics spreadsheet simulator... [23-Aug-23 06:19 PM] fremen45#0000 I need 4 LDE, 1500 MCG, and 14 BDE for an expansion. [23-Aug-23 06:20 PM] domicius#0000 I have it all on ANT [23-Aug-23 06:46 PM] fremen45#0000 Sounds good. Does a 1000 per work for the LDE and BDE? And 15 per for the MCG? [23-Aug-23 07:13 PM] domicius#0000 Sure [23-Aug-23 07:14 PM] fremen45#0000 Did you receive the contracts I sent? [23-Aug-23 07:14 PM] domicius#0000 I got one of them [23-Aug-23 07:30 PM] fremen45#0000 Sent you the other 2. [23-Aug-23 07:50 PM] domicius#0000 All done! [23-Aug-23 07:52 PM] fremen45#0000 Thank you. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] dehzhas#0000 I just got Covid, so my weekend trip plans are cancelled. ๐Ÿ˜ญ I may just spend the weekend playing with spreadsheets instead [24-Aug-23 12:36 AM] churavis#0000 Be honest, you're relieved [24-Aug-23 12:36 AM] dehzhas#0000 Well... I actually wanted to go on this trip, but ... it's certainly a good consolation prize [24-Aug-23 12:38 AM] dehzhas#0000 In other random news, elon-musk of Pie Rate Shipping bought 2 shares in GKI. I figured I'd take his money and just keep the cash when he gets bored/frustrated and leaves the game. [24-Aug-23 12:41 AM] churavis#0000 Did you put it in the fine print that liquidation causes the shares to default to "the issuer"? [24-Aug-23 12:41 AM] dehzhas#0000 Yep {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–‹๏ธ ๐ŸŽ‰ [24-Aug-23 12:41 AM] dehzhas#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‰ [24-Aug-23 12:42 AM] dehzhas#0000 And I quote: "In the event of game liquidation of a shareholder, the shares owned by that player will revert to GKI unless prior arrangements have been made." [24-Aug-23 12:43 AM] dehzhas#0000 Even if it is just a COLIQ+restart I wrote it such that GKI gets the shares back. [24-Aug-23 03:18 AM] fremen45#0000 looking to purchase FIM at corp rates. Ideally on Phobos or ANT if possible? [24-Aug-23 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can sell you up to 100 FIM @ 1200 on ANT, just send a contract [24-Aug-23 12:03 PM] higgsy#0000 They're literally called "Pie Rates Shipping". Wow, what an ass. {Reactions} ๐Ÿด (2) [24-Aug-23 01:15 PM] fremen45#0000 Thank you. [24-Aug-23 07:18 PM] fremen45#0000 looking for Cons to get a T1 base setup I have the Fabs already at ANT. hoping to pickup around 336 DW and RAT, 42 OVE and 17 PWO. hoping for corp prices if possible? [24-Aug-23 07:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Feel free to send contracts for those to me, I have small quantities like that laying around on ANT [24-Aug-23 07:41 PM] fremen45#0000 sent. Thanks! [24-Aug-23 10:35 PM] churavis#0000 Is anyone selling large quantities of Nitrogen now? [25-Aug-23 01:53 AM] exeler#0000 I just checked my stock on ZV-639D and I have 4k sitting there. I make a surplus and I haven't shipped any off base since I started the base ๐Ÿ˜… [25-Aug-23 02:19 AM] melon164#0000 Anyone got any spare FC anywhere? [25-Aug-23 03:15 AM] fremen45#0000 No but I could make some if you want? [25-Aug-23 03:58 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” Could you make a hundred? [25-Aug-23 09:03 AM] martin1194#0000 I very lazy to make aution XDD [25-Aug-23 09:03 AM] martin1194#0000 how many N u burn each week? [25-Aug-23 09:04 AM] churavis#0000 I haven't done the math but I make quite a bit of SEN and that uses a lot [25-Aug-23 10:33 AM] archielvahr#0000 A tree fell on my power lines and internet lines so I might be slow dealing with contracts for a bit [25-Aug-23 10:52 AM] fremen45#0000 Itโ€™s in progress but Itโ€™ll be a while to get 100. [25-Aug-23 11:26 AM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– [25-Aug-23 11:26 AM] melon164#0000 That'd be grand; what price? [25-Aug-23 11:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome to OneS / xFEUERDRACHENx, who reached out to me in the in-game chat to learn more about OOG and see if itโ€™s a good fit. Check out our #welcome and #rules-faq channels and let us know if you have any questions! [25-Aug-23 11:35 AM] sage42#0000 Welcome! [25-Aug-23 12:01 PM] pateirn#0000 @xfeuerdrachenx Welcome! I just did the same thing myself a couple weeks ago and everyone has been awesome so far! [25-Aug-23 12:48 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hi to all {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) ๐Ÿ‘‹ [25-Aug-23 03:48 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 can anybody give me the currency ratio of NCC und AIC? [25-Aug-23 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 All the currencies are essentially 1:1 and we have people who can convert for you in corp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [27-Aug-23 01:45 PM] higgsy#0000 When do y'all repair ships and buildings? [27-Aug-23 02:06 PM] melon164#0000 when I realise they're falling apart ๐Ÿ˜ [27-Aug-23 02:07 PM] dehzhas#0000 Usually around the time I have the thought โ€œWhy is this flight so slow? I thought it was faster?โ€ [27-Aug-23 02:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 whenever it shows up at Heph and I remember [27-Aug-23 02:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 buildings, typically around 90%, unless it's HSE or AEF then I wait till like 85 [27-Aug-23 07:22 PM] exeler#0000 Usually when I realize I'm catching up on shipping stuff cause all my buildings slowed down. [27-Aug-23 08:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ideally right before 90 days [27-Aug-23 08:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 The Fio repair monitor is quite convenient cause it checks all your planets at onxe [28-Aug-23 05:36 AM] domicius#0000 I thought the efficiency cutoff was 80%? [28-Aug-23 08:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's for ships [28-Aug-23 09:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 For buildings I believe the min efficiency is 33 percent. [28-Aug-23 09:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 Internet should be fixed within 6 hours. I know I have some contracts pending that may require some short flights [28-Aug-23 09:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 Sorry if it affected you! [28-Aug-23 02:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Finally back in action! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [28-Aug-23 06:34 PM] dehzhas#0000 Covid hitting me hard, Iโ€™m going to be slow for a couple more days [28-Aug-23 06:34 PM] churavis#0000 We'll be fine here, you focus on getting better, the game is a game [29-Aug-23 05:49 PM] fremen45#0000 Wondering what the demand is around GL. I was considering putting in a GL base and wondering if there would be a market for that? [29-Aug-23 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I will buy GL / RG / NG in moderate quantities. Like a few hundred GL per week, a hundred RG a week, and maybe 10 NG / week [29-Aug-23 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mostly grab it off the CX now [29-Aug-23 05:55 PM] churavis#0000 I was doing auctions for GF products a month or two ago but no one was buying them so I stopped and scaled down my GF [29-Aug-23 08:57 PM] higgsy#0000 Ok, I'll put up some GF auctions [29-Aug-23 08:58 PM] churavis#0000 Only if they're cute {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (5) [30-Aug-23 02:35 AM] fremen45#0000 I have up to 15 NN I am hoping to trade for the missing components on this list. the number in my head is 13NN for this wondering if anyone would do this deal? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1146347343713665035/image.png?ex=68151e68&is=6813cce8&hm=11208ecd7d35f94261b61597b81e1483c8111a3d5c5fdd86edc61ad331ac1f4a& [30-Aug-23 08:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 interesting, but a single RDE is worth more than a single NN [30-Aug-23 08:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 and I don't even mean on the market, I mean its input values are about 50% more [30-Aug-23 08:38 AM] churavis#0000 NN mid CX price is about 30k, RDE mid CX price is about 20k [30-Aug-23 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah but the CX doesn't move NNs, the input values on an NN are about 10k in workforce usage [30-Aug-23 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 while the RDE input cost is about 15k, and that's with reduced prices from vertical scaling [30-Aug-23 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 for selling to corp, I always look at input costs rather than market [30-Aug-23 08:39 AM] churavis#0000 Price doesn't depend solely on input values, it depends on supply and demand [30-Aug-23 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 right, but NN demand is super low [30-Aug-23 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 apparently there was a single sale a couple weeks ago, then the next one was 10 units in April [30-Aug-23 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 so CX is useless for it [30-Aug-23 08:41 AM] churavis#0000 The price isn't much different in any other CX [30-Aug-23 08:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah but price doesn't matter if no one buys it [30-Aug-23 08:42 AM] churavis#0000 In any case, I'll give you the upgrade components for the 15 NN [30-Aug-23 10:07 AM] fremen45#0000 Thanks. Where do you want the NN? I have it on Phobos currently. [30-Aug-23 10:34 AM] churavis#0000 Phobos is fine, the Rfabs are on Nike or ANT, you choose [30-Aug-23 10:34 AM] fremen45#0000 Nike please {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [30-Aug-23 10:35 AM] churavis#0000 Send the contracts [30-Aug-23 11:04 AM] fremen45#0000 all sent [31-Aug-23 04:50 AM] fremen45#0000 is there a reason that there is no governor on Electronica? it looks like @parisinspringtime was running it before. I know there has been talk of him taking over Deimos? but I'm not sure on the details of that situation. [31-Aug-23 05:18 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I built the Admin building there and I used the planet to learn about governorship. I overdid things and the PIO population ballooned massively; that has slowly bled down to manageable levels. [31-Aug-23 05:18 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I left the governorship because it's a small planet that doesn't need a governor to run programs; things can be maintained by feeding the consumables. I built the extra SST & INF to ensure the above. I still feed those. [31-Aug-23 05:18 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Some people decided a small baby planet like this was the perfect place to put high-POP buildings. That is their prerogative, but these same people won't feed the consumables required to build or maintain those POPs. I am no longer feeding for POPs I don't use for a planet I am not governor for. I already feed 4-6 other small bases as necessary. People need to take responsibility for their own decisions/goals. [31-Aug-23 05:18 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Next POPR will: - continue to bleed off PIOs. Goal is to get PIO unemployment to 10-15%. - clear the SET unemployment completely, leaving unemployment around 10%. - help with the TECH shortfall with +75 TECH & +50% ENG POPs (this is an unintended improvement but I don't begrudge others the benefit they receive. However, if people want more TECH, ENG & SCI, they can put in the effort themselves). [31-Aug-23 05:23 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Next cycle I will only be feeding the SST with OFF, which will maintain the PIO & SET populations pretty steadily (if someone adds low-POP buildings and eats the available unemployment, I'll revisit those levels). However, that will mean the TECH & ENG populations will fall. It's unfortunate but also not my problem. [31-Aug-23 05:23 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 The buildings to build up and maintain those POPs already exist on the planet; others just need to feed them properly. [31-Aug-23 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 I figure that's a good way to live by [31-Aug-23 10:05 AM] churavis#0000 Wouldn't DW be cheaper and easier than OFF? A full upkeep category carries the same weight as any other. [31-Aug-23 10:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 per market, OFF shows as cheapest [31-Aug-23 10:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 even SUN is somehow cheaper than DW [31-Aug-23 10:29 AM] exeler#0000 I also sell OFF regularly for better than market rates. I also can make SUN super cheap [31-Aug-23 01:48 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 exactly this ๐Ÿ‘† [31-Aug-23 01:48 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 I buy cheap OFF from Exeler, and also now make my own SUN. I don't make enough DW yet to cover planet consumables. [31-Aug-23 01:48 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1146879295822778438/image.png?ex=68151394&is=6813c214&hm=9bb01220eff5214ccd007da8752afaf08875479566a011cddcf84a83f0cf4605& [31-Aug-23 01:49 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 these are my current costs for Electronica [31-Aug-23 01:49 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 (were I to fulfil all 3 consumables on the SST) [31-Aug-23 01:50 PM] churavis#0000 I suppose it depends on whether you can make it yourself and scale it up or not, it's quite easy for me to scale up DW but not OFF or SUN. Making it yourself is always cheaper than even corp rates. [31-Aug-23 01:52 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 100% "something-something-opportunity-costs", but I agree with you that it's often cheaper (and more reliable) to make the things yourself. [31-Aug-23 01:58 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 I opened up a FP/FER base to handle the what I would have needed for Deimos: DW & FOD (+some extra DW, COF & ALE for my Empire) [31-Aug-23 05:38 PM] exeler#0000 I'm pretty confident I can scale up OFF to provide for basically everyone in the corp that would need/want it. At 60/u it looks like Archiel's sheet shows OFF as one of the most cost effective inputs. [01-Sep-23 12:30 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Does anyone EXT/Sell BER? My old supplier went dark. [01-Sep-23 12:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I buy BER ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Sep-23 12:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 Who was invited? [01-Sep-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 @xfeuerdrachenx [01-Sep-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 should have his corp name set [01-Sep-23 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's @xfeuerdrachenx / OneS [01-Sep-23 12:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I mentioned it in a PM, I think he's asleep/away now. You can set it in your "Server Profile" here in discord [01-Sep-23 01:15 PM] fremen45#0000 I have a BER tap. Depending on how many people want/ need BER from me I could use help spinning it up if thereโ€™s a bunch of you. {Reactions} ๐Ÿป (2) [01-Sep-23 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll pay for you to max it out, just send me a bill ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โœ‹ [01-Sep-23 01:24 PM] fremen45#0000 Itโ€™s on IY-206c Iโ€™ll max it out but I also have a labor problem there as I am the first person to build there. [01-Sep-23 01:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Perfect place to start as a governor ๐Ÿ˜‰ [01-Sep-23 01:25 PM] fremen45#0000 The 70 laborers works fine when you only have 2 ships and arenโ€™t trying to supply an entire corp ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Sep-23 01:27 PM] fremen45#0000 Sounds good. Iโ€™ll cost it out and get back to you. I need a loan as well for griff so Iโ€™ll do both at the same time(sequentially) and then let you know what it cost. [01-Sep-23 01:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can also send you what is needed for an ADM and level 1 WAR on ANT for free too [01-Sep-23 01:28 PM] fremen45#0000 Thatโ€™s very useful thanks. [01-Sep-23 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 SE-648b is the other option for BER extraction, similar distance to ANT but has a COGC and everything else already built [01-Sep-23 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 You could even run for governor there, we used to run it, but it's empty now [01-Sep-23 01:33 PM] fremen45#0000 I was using the IY-206D for TAI and then plan was to feed them into electronica for aml processing which is like 1 jump away. Let me think about it. There is real advantages to moving to SE-648b but thatโ€™s a decent scale restructuring. [01-Sep-23 01:55 PM] fremen45#0000 do we have Suppliers for BOR? the TAI tap is a minor loss for me. but at some point far in the future I very well might try to make engines and I would loose BOR production if I pull all 3 of those bases off the map. [01-Sep-23 01:59 PM] exeler#0000 Sorry about the struggles with the auction bot recently. I did some more work on it this morning. If someone who has an open auction can try to finish it and let me know if it works as expected that would be lovely. I tested the auctions on my test server, but I suspect there's something off about the data/db currently live that might be tripping up the bot somehow. I want to get it back into a stable state before I start adding some of the new features I was planning. Hopefully over the weekend it'll become more than just the auction bot ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Sep-23 02:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looking at the LEAD for BOR, I don't think anyone in the corp is making it now. Most of those names aren't ANT people I think. Nike has a tiny bit.. probably not enough to be effective but it would be pretty convenient [01-Sep-23 02:09 PM] fremen45#0000 top person looks like they are extracting it from Acetares - Lom Palanka (QJ-684a) [01-Sep-23 02:09 PM] fremen45#0000 the Challenge is that requres TSH. [01-Sep-23 02:10 PM] churavis#0000 I make TSH [01-Sep-23 02:12 PM] fremen45#0000 out of curiosity what's the price per unit? [01-Sep-23 02:13 PM] churavis#0000 As it says on the sheet, 20k each [01-Sep-23 03:32 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 I also make TSH, and unfortunately 20k is a good price for it, considering the cost of raw materials. [01-Sep-23 04:14 PM] melon164#0000 Come to OE-568j for TAI and process it on site ๐Ÿ˜ [01-Sep-23 04:15 PM] fremen45#0000 When I do TAI I will do the one that also has TC. [01-Sep-23 04:15 PM] fremen45#0000 But for the moment I am going to loose support for TAI as I restructure. [01-Sep-23 07:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 Lot to reply to so I'll just make a general comment, but I want BER too! and plan on setting up a BOR mine myself for BOS. Also don't make AMLs on electronica, that's not a great idea {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ’ฏ [02-Sep-23 12:52 AM] dehzhas#0000 FYI, back from Covid kicking my butt... sent contracts for things I missed. If you didn't get a contract from me for something I missed, let me know. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [02-Sep-23 12:58 AM] fremen45#0000 Thanks I'll keep that in mind [02-Sep-23 01:41 AM] fremen45#0000 BBH : 79 BDE : 95 BSE : 71 BTA : 12 LBH : 32 LSE : 8 LTA : 8 MCG : 1808 TRU : 72 this is what I am looking for, for my Griffonstone rework. I am hoping to get it all in house if possible and on a fairly short timeline if possible. [02-Sep-23 10:50 AM] churavis#0000 Post them as LM ads at corp pricing on Nike and I'm sure someone will fill them [02-Sep-23 10:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like just the MCG is left on Nike [03-Sep-23 12:01 AM] churavis#0000 I've got the MCG but I'm not clicking that many ads, send me a contract for all of it at once [03-Sep-23 12:19 AM] fremen45#0000 sent. I did it that way so that if there was a smattering of people they could all contribute as opposed to one person having to have it all. [03-Sep-23 12:20 AM] churavis#0000 I get that, but just do a little bit larger chunks next time, especially for MCG which is easy to make a massive quantity of [03-Sep-23 12:21 AM] fremen45#0000 Fair enough I will do that. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Sep-23 12:39 AM] fremen45#0000 Thank you to everyone who contriibuted to stage one of Griffonstone upgrade. I now have all the Prefabs. the boat is off to ANT to pick up CONs looking for T1 and T2 cons. [03-Sep-23 02:57 AM] exeler#0000 MCG is one of those things goods where the rate limit on how much money you can make from it is how many you can sell. So pretty much regardless of how much you need, someone will have it laying around and be itching to sell it. [03-Sep-23 11:14 AM] fremen45#0000 @exeler just went back through auctions looking for stuff I was interested in and tried to bid on [03-Sep-23 11:14 AM] fremen45#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1147927625155739789/image.png?ex=6814ef69&is=68139de9&hm=b0d1f39ca231cfdff9e641997b28169c53ac212db14b4a18ee68dfd765ce47cf& [03-Sep-23 01:06 PM] fremen45#0000 Alright I am looking to pick up a series of CONs on ANT at Corp prices if available? 150 KOM 100 PT 1000 RAT 100 EXO or whatever quantities people are willing to sell. the rest I will pick up on the CX. Ship is looking to leave later today but I will still purchase these quantities after the ship leaves at Corp prices. [03-Sep-23 01:08 PM] churavis#0000 I have the PT in stock on ANT @ 360 each [03-Sep-23 01:10 PM] churavis#0000 I'll be doing an auction later for everyone else [03-Sep-23 01:11 PM] fremen45#0000 Thank you! Sent. [03-Sep-23 03:12 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks, was it just that one auction acting up, or were you unable to bid on some other ones? [03-Sep-23 03:13 PM] fremen45#0000 That was the only one Iโ€™ve run into it with. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Sep-23 03:14 PM] fremen45#0000 I knew it was an ongoing issue so I thought I might add another dataset to help with debugging. [03-Sep-23 03:17 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks. I suspect this is another one of those closed auctions that didn't get the message updated. If that's the case then I can update some things to prevent this from happening in the future. [03-Sep-23 03:23 PM] exeler#0000 Yup, that was 100% it. I'll write a script to go and re-check all the auctions in the database to correct that completed flag. Then I'm gonna patch the bot to handle errors a little better so things don't get in wonky states like this. [03-Sep-23 04:32 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 @fremen45 i sent you a contract for 1000 RAT. [03-Sep-23 04:57 PM] fremen45#0000 Thank you. [03-Sep-23 05:49 PM] pateirn#0000 Have another 1k? ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [04-Sep-23 02:42 AM] martin1194#0000 Who can spare 300FF at Proxion 50@1 [04-Sep-23 02:43 AM] dehzhas#0000 I got you, send me a contract [04-Sep-23 02:44 AM] martin1194#0000 Ads up [04-Sep-23 02:44 AM] martin1194#0000 LMA UV-796B/90952 [04-Sep-23 02:44 AM] martin1194#0000 Command [04-Sep-23 02:44 AM] dehzhas#0000 Done [04-Sep-23 02:45 AM] martin1194#0000 Thank you. My ship can't fly from there.๐Ÿ˜‚ [04-Sep-23 02:45 AM] dehzhas#0000 No problem! [04-Sep-23 03:27 PM] martin1194#0000 Looking for RAT at Proxion (UV-796b) [04-Sep-23 03:27 PM] martin1194#0000 : ( Why I always miss something to refill base ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [04-Sep-23 03:29 PM] dehzhas#0000 I have ship on the way to refill my base. I can spare some now and bring more on the next trip. [04-Sep-23 03:31 PM] dehzhas#0000 I can spare 150 now, another 300 in 24 hours [04-Sep-23 04:12 PM] martin1194#0000 thank you for sending help. Someone took my ad and fulfilled it. I owe you twice : P {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Sep-23 04:22 PM] dehzhas#0000 If you need more, just send a contract my way. I usually try to keep close to 3 weeks of consumables at my bases so I usually have some to spare. [06-Sep-23 01:06 AM] fremen45#0000 I have a contract that needs NCC. 20000 of it I can give AIC in exchange can anyone help? [06-Sep-23 01:08 AM] churavis#0000 We have a bank for that [06-Sep-23 10:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Joined the server. [06-Sep-23 10:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome! @mrsmith33 is a prospective member... no relation to our previous @mrtcsmith ... just confusingly similar names ๐Ÿ˜› [06-Sep-23 10:35 AM] maddenhenge#0000 Joined the server. [06-Sep-23 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 And welcome to @maddenhenge too! Another prospective member. Both are new and based in ANT space [06-Sep-23 10:35 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Hello there [06-Sep-23 10:36 AM] archielvahr#0000 Take a look at our #welcome and #rules-faq channels. Then we've got our #auctions system, which you are welcome to participate in during your one week trial period [06-Sep-23 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 I've been tracking not only the count of players in the corp, but also player activity, and recruiting around the level that keeps us stable at ~30 active players. [06-Sep-23 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 As always, let us know if you have any questions! [06-Sep-23 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh and change your server profile to be " | " so we can find you easily [06-Sep-23 10:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh and I don't think I mentioned dividends to either of you in the DMs. Weekly dividends have been aroudn 80,000 AIC [06-Sep-23 10:44 AM] maddenhenge#0000 Dang [06-Sep-23 10:45 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Where do corps get dividends from? [06-Sep-23 10:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 Dividends come from taxes on the planets governed by OOG members, and they are distributed evenly among members [06-Sep-23 10:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Here is our planet tracker, listing OOG governed planets: http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_wSJvmphT1N.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_wSJvmphT1N.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/D7L0lqRI7YKnbzl-MsRydA4zLOFGC8xOeltNW-PSRaI/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_wSJvmphT1N.png [06-Sep-23 10:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 You'll find links to the other corp sheets in #welcome and #ship-building etc [06-Sep-23 10:50 AM] mrsmith33#0000 So, I have these two contracts {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149008816554385438/image.png?ex=6814e9d9&is=68139859&hm=1f8040ee5f6a1c3f15deb0c70f7d2bb94fbda0cfceb34321760f9b7348b9a452& [06-Sep-23 10:51 AM] archielvahr#0000 wow two of them, nice ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Sep-23 10:51 AM] archielvahr#0000 that's very lucky [06-Sep-23 10:53 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Electronica could do with a governor. I cut my teeth as governor there and it was great. It's all gone a little downhill since I left. It's ticking along but could do with a program or two. [06-Sep-23 10:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 So you'll definitely want a small planet, and one that is Pioneer focused, otherwise it would be a big challenge for a new player. And elections run for a week so... a 10 day timeline will be tough. [06-Sep-23 10:53 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Would fit your window perfectly too. [06-Sep-23 10:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it does fit your window. [06-Sep-23 10:54 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149009832884580362/image.png?ex=6814eacb&is=6813994b&hm=918cb0a7d2b4858318ab6f9aee887098b9f0b98f70686759a4b1565ba17b16fd& [06-Sep-23 10:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yuen is the only other OOG member with a base there, and he's inactive. So it will all come down to your vote, Paris ๐Ÿ˜› [06-Sep-23 10:56 AM] mrsmith33#0000 What does the governor do exactly? Do I need to move building materials / supplies with ships? [06-Sep-23 10:56 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Does anyone have/produce AEF? I've tapped out both Churavais' and my own stores, but I'm still 60 units short. [06-Sep-23 10:56 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Is it necessary to get at least one vote to get elected? [06-Sep-23 10:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 Technically you don't need a base there, but you do need at least one vote. [06-Sep-23 10:57 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I can probably get Rise to _pay_ for a few programs if we get a new governor there ๐Ÿ˜† [06-Sep-23 10:59 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is also KI-401 a {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149010911097528340/image.png?ex=6814ebcc&is=68139a4c&hm=dc19cfa263d6d37699067f94336e29b47b3d0bb40d230ec13e55fa4c3b7b7f02& [06-Sep-23 10:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 The governor definitely needs to run programs. Usually they are responsible for upkeep, like filling the safety, health, etc ( see `POPID p-IY-028c t-SST` as an example) [06-Sep-23 11:00 AM] archielvahr#0000 I bet @melon164 would be happy to let you have that one [06-Sep-23 11:01 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also KI-401a doesn't start with a deficit of 400 technicians.. which will be much easier on a new governor [06-Sep-23 11:03 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 4 PP2 on deimos, so I can produce 60 in <8 days if I had helium [06-Sep-23 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have some, but apex doesn't seem to be loading atm [06-Sep-23 11:06 AM] churavis#0000 It's down for me too [06-Sep-23 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 I apparently have 89 on ANT [06-Sep-23 11:19 AM] melon164#0000 I would have been... but my pro has expired and I can't actually withdraw! ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [06-Sep-23 11:20 AM] melon164#0000 OE-568j is even easier though, please come and sit on the throne and do jack all {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149016268029042808/image.png?ex=6814f0c9&is=68139f49&hm=736ae4478f3adca27667d87f76797f11eaee5283c77738165e0d7bd24b2258a9& [06-Sep-23 11:24 AM] melon164#0000 Hmm, actually I'd like one ENG immigration ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [06-Sep-23 11:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 Well you can run and vote for someone else ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Sep-23 11:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 So we'll recommend OE-568j for @mrsmith33 ? [06-Sep-23 11:32 AM] maddenhenge#0000 i just got a random contract offering 300k for 1 fuel [06-Sep-23 11:33 AM] maddenhenge#0000 is that normal or does that smell of scam to anyone else [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 not really any scams here, but that's probably your new player fund [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 if it's @allocater {Reactions} ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] maddenhenge#0000 new player fund? [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 free money available to players to help them get a faster start [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 free to decline as well [06-Sep-23 11:34 AM] maddenhenge#0000 ahh [06-Sep-23 11:36 AM] maddenhenge#0000 looks like it is, i just wanted to make sure i wouldnt end up in an insane loan id never pay off [06-Sep-23 11:37 AM] allocater#0000 that part comes later ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‡ [06-Sep-23 11:37 AM] maddenhenge#0000 fair enough [06-Sep-23 11:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 thanks for the monies [06-Sep-23 11:39 AM] maddenhenge#0000 well thank you, the 300k lets me push the plan i had to completion, plus a bit [06-Sep-23 12:22 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @melon164 I made myself a candidate on OE-568j [06-Sep-23 12:33 PM] higgsy#0000 Why is MAI better to produce on FRM than HYF? [06-Sep-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 I only use FRM to make GRN and HER, because you can't use HYF [06-Sep-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 everything a HYF makes is more expensive, just volume is greater [06-Sep-23 12:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 so 2:1 farm:food planets, or with hyf it reverses, 1:3 [06-Sep-23 12:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's the true "(margin) quality < (volume)quantity" argument {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [06-Sep-23 01:27 PM] exeler#0000 I use FRM for MAI because the HCP recipe for the HYF is just a lot better imo. So I make HCP, CAF and RCO in the HYF with MAI and GRN in the FRM. [06-Sep-23 01:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use HYF for MUS so I don't have to make BEA. I did the math once and convinced myself it was a good plan. I couldn't really rationalize it now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [06-Sep-23 02:11 PM] pateirn#0000 @archielvahr I didn't even know the updating the systems thing was an active forum convo. That is funny. [06-Sep-23 02:11 PM] pateirn#0000 I was just on my own rant lol [06-Sep-23 02:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh haha, I thought it was brought on by the forum thread [06-Sep-23 02:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah, everyone can chime in here: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/changes-to-the-current-universe-map-share-your-ideas/5963 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/changes-to-the-current-universe-map-share-your-ideas/5963 Changes to the current universe map? Share your ideas! Hi folks! We have a lot of plans for what a future universe map could look like. However, to shake things up in the currently running universe, the topic of making changes to the map as it is right now came up quite a few times already. We do have some ideas here as well, but at first Iโ€™d like to open it up to your input without any pre-defined ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [06-Sep-23 02:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think they liked my idea in the "behind the scenes" discord channel when I mentioned a "mysterious subspace anomaly" upgrading existing planets, and that seems to be the direction discussion is going [06-Sep-23 02:32 PM] pateirn#0000 Yeah, I wanna think about it a bit more, but that was basically an idea I had. [06-Sep-23 02:33 PM] pateirn#0000 I don't think it should be possible to have a system of all garbage. Maybe some sort of tiered procgen, where you get something good, maybe a few medium, and then a few truly randoms [06-Sep-23 02:34 PM] pateirn#0000 But just hand upgrading a bunch of stuff near the active zones as a band-aid for this wipe seems very reasonable [06-Sep-23 02:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I like that idea too. [06-Sep-23 02:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 I suspect they will do a procedural change to planets away from the core [06-Sep-23 02:38 PM] pateirn#0000 Yeah, I like that. And I feel like anyone who did get affected by that, could be Admin spawned stuff at a cx, because it would just affect so few people [06-Sep-23 02:39 PM] pateirn#0000 This sounds super fun too {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149066419028381827/image.png?ex=68151f7e&is=6813cdfe&hm=f7895c65c0eb941732cb6ba8a563433cd4f61b8ac5b741d5811efe27106ce2e3& [06-Sep-23 02:40 PM] churavis#0000 It would only last for a short time, though [06-Sep-23 02:41 PM] pateirn#0000 And I feel like Terraforming would fit in very nicely with this. Maybe a special ship module to do terraforming, and specific mats would facilitate that process? Makes turning a whole system into something useful possible [06-Sep-23 02:42 PM] pateirn#0000 Sure, but then we have those planets to use still, maybe too much work for a feature like that [06-Sep-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 don't get too excited here, it takes them 3 months to implement some rather basic changes due to low manpower {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [06-Sep-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 terraformers, warp gates, all these kinds of changes are interesting but way out of scope [06-Sep-23 02:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think they'll only rerun procedural generation on some sectors/systems, manually fix some old bugs (like weird system naming that doesn't match sectors), and then maybe manually add some special planets [06-Sep-23 02:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 and maybe add a CX somewhere in the south [06-Sep-23 02:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 all in all that might take them a week or two [06-Sep-23 02:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd be happy to be wrong, but that's the peak of my expectations ๐Ÿ™‚ [06-Sep-23 02:46 PM] churavis#0000 I know they've mentioned adding asteroid exploration and mining to the next universe [06-Sep-23 02:46 PM] maddenhenge#0000 how often do wipes happen btw? [06-Sep-23 02:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 last one was 900+ days ago [06-Sep-23 02:46 PM] maddenhenge#0000 ah ok [06-Sep-23 02:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 and not for at least a couple _more_ years per molp [06-Sep-23 02:47 PM] maddenhenge#0000 fair enough, wasnt sure, so had to ask [06-Sep-23 02:47 PM] churavis#0000 They're much less frequent now that they've added stability improvements and measures to protect against data corruption. [06-Sep-23 02:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 asteroids seem like the next trigger for a wipe though, just way too much change to incorporate here [06-Sep-23 02:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 but we have the plan for the next year, corp CX and space elevators being the highlight ๐Ÿค‘ [06-Sep-23 02:56 PM] tuffyless#0000 How to become a corp member? *Sorry - didnt wanna ping this but wanted to ref the context.* [06-Sep-23 02:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 did you never get an invite? [06-Sep-23 02:57 PM] tuffyless#0000 would I see it here?: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149070772392951909/image.png?ex=6815238c&is=6813d20c&hm=3b736faffb65cb682e8e0f36d98926f47e5a24e64de9022710b2a3b724dad43c& [06-Sep-23 02:57 PM] tuffyless#0000 w00t! wow that was easy lol. it's there now ๐Ÿ™‚ ty Hern [06-Sep-23 02:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 probably my failure since I think I invited you originally ๐Ÿ™ƒ [06-Sep-23 02:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just started telling new people it was their responsibility to keep track of the week long trial period ๐Ÿ˜‰ [06-Sep-23 02:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 haha [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 hehe, I did not keep track very well [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Did you get any welcome money? [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 no [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sending some [06-Sep-23 02:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 but I wouldnt wanna ask for that. I came here fairly well established [06-Sep-23 03:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh yes, okay, I see your base count [06-Sep-23 03:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Sep-23 03:00 PM] tuffyless#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ thank you though! [07-Sep-23 11:48 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone running around with extra FRM space? HER are insanely expensive right now [07-Sep-23 11:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 and I'm finding, to keep up even with my own internal FIM needs, I need MORE [07-Sep-23 04:46 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Is there an instruction on how auctions work? [07-Sep-23 05:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you want some of it, click bid and when the auction is done, they will send you a contract for your winnings. If you want a small amount you can set the quantity with the other button [07-Sep-23 05:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you want to make an auction type /auction in that channel and it will help you a bit [07-Sep-23 05:28 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I see [07-Sep-23 07:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 looks like the AL market is about to implode [07-Sep-23 07:18 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Thats, not good [07-Sep-23 07:19 PM] domicius#0000 Too much AL? [07-Sep-23 07:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 not nearly enough [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 about to hit the 1k cap yuen put in months ago before he left [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Oh [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I guess the implosion is based on perspective ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I need to buy a lot... apparently >200/d [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 and I just get on CX to help the economy [07-Sep-23 07:20 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Oh damn [07-Sep-23 07:22 PM] domicius#0000 I make a fair bit of AL. I can sell some and make some money! Yay {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [07-Sep-23 07:22 PM] maddenhenge#0000 I just upgraded my stuff to make more too lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ช [07-Sep-23 07:22 PM] domicius#0000 Not 200 a day tho [07-Sep-23 07:22 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Ye [07-Sep-23 07:23 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Guess gotta upgrade more then lol [07-Sep-23 07:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's definitely up there on my list of imports, maybe I should make an ALO base out in the boonies to offset it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149500257063940236/expenses.png?ex=6814b949&is=681367c9&hm=5b750d1f0f8c912a2ebb05ebcbaf4e5033bf6be91b2372567c14805af062569b& [07-Sep-23 07:24 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Might have to [07-Sep-23 07:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 hard to justify a basic resource base being worth several millions in Afabs for the HQ upgrade though [07-Sep-23 07:26 PM] maddenhenge#0000 Like On my deimos base, post another round of upgrades, im only making like 50 per day, cause it takes me like, 2d 17 hr for a full batch [07-Sep-23 07:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah even making a whole base for ALO/AL on Nascent only covers half my use ๐Ÿ˜ด I didn't realize I used so much [07-Sep-23 07:32 PM] maddenhenge#0000 seems like it [07-Sep-23 07:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'll just let some newbies fill the gap ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Sep-23 07:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 all those Deimos starters should do well selling AL [07-Sep-23 07:34 PM] maddenhenge#0000 yup. [07-Sep-23 07:34 PM] maddenhenge#0000 thats what im hoping [07-Sep-23 11:57 PM] exeler#0000 Minor update for the auction bot (unless you're a database nerd, then this might be mildly interesting): The database schema is now under proper version control (for the nerds: using a tool called alembic). No noticable change in behavior is expected, but this means a huuuge amount of pain translating data to support new features is gone now (I committed many sins to add a new column to the DB and backfill it with data from the discord api last time). I'm hoping to add some cool new things to the bot soon so stay tuned! [08-Sep-23 01:31 AM] exeler#0000 Related to :this: I'm working on a new `order` feature for the bot. It'll function like a reverse auction. I want it to be useful for coordinating large orders of MATs for base building, collecting ship comments for a ship build, or just requesting a huge volume of a specific good to be filled by multiple people. I wanted to use a discord modal to fill in multiple products you need... but discord modals suck and it looks like I can't do that ๐Ÿ˜  So instead, it looks like it's one item per modal, but at that rate I might as well just use inputs to the slash command like how `/auction` works. Would you guys rather the `/order` command takes the first (only?) item as a modal (the command would just be /order with no arguments) or have it work like `/auction` and take all the numbers at once with no secondary pop up to type stuff into. I've attached a screenshot of what the modal would look like (since I went and wasted my time writing the code to build it ๐Ÿ˜…) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149592890327183420/image.png?ex=68150f8f&is=6813be0f&hm=8404a9a689d1dacb7c36eb6cea47bea27d12275642003ebf0aac0f4a4215dd25& [08-Sep-23 01:50 AM] melon164#0000 Assuming you're passing the input to some sort of programming language, could you do string parsing of an input like `108xABH@40000,72xADE@20000,3xADS@100000` to get the multiple items? First split by `,` to get the different items, then split each item by `@` to get the price and rest, then split the rest by `x` (please support `ร—` also if you do that or I will be sad!) to get quantity and item? [08-Sep-23 01:51 AM] melon164#0000 If it really is restricted to one order at a time then the slash command is probably faster/easier to input into [08-Sep-23 02:59 AM] exeler#0000 That's really easy to do in code, but I wonder if the typical humans driving the bot would find it intuitive to stuff all of that into discord's sad excuse for a text input control ๐Ÿ˜… I forsee a lot of "Aaaah! I forgot the x" or "Aaaah! I typod one of them" with that since not everyone is a data entry expert. I'm thinking the slash command and one-per-order is a good workaround. It's quick, keyboard only, and discord has support for some rudimentary typing that helps correct some typos nicely. The modals are really bad when it comes to UX imo. [08-Sep-23 03:02 AM] exeler#0000 Progress so far. I want to add a "Fulfill some" button that will hit you with a box to type in how many you want instead of doing them all (or in this specific example, one less than the max so I could test the "x remaining items needed" logic) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149615671592878160/image.png?ex=681524c6&is=6813d346&hm=2b8ab8e6c704d014fc6919cb165df7101ea440c86011fe9e162683078ab0e06a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (2) ๐Ÿ†’ [08-Sep-23 07:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 None of us are typical humans ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค– (2) ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Sep-23 08:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 Back to the ship build naming that was going on recently, could we support something like that? Tell the bot you want a hyper carrier and it spits out a big list of all the items you need? Would be ship specific; if you wanted regular items you have to go one item at a time. Would also need some reference to know what each ship name does [08-Sep-23 08:53 AM] pateirn#0000 This is a kick ass idea if it is possible! [08-Sep-23 12:21 PM] exeler#0000 Oh yeah! If we had premade configurations it would be really easy to do that! After the basic command is working, I'm gonna look into setting up something like that [08-Sep-23 01:01 PM] higgsy#0000 Is there a demand for PPF goods within OOG? Like, do y'all need PSL, PSM, and PSS? [08-Sep-23 01:04 PM] higgsy#0000 Also, which infrastructure items are needed? I'm not well-versed in govt stuff yet. [08-Sep-23 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 I suspect PSL/PSM/PSS and the DCL/DCM/DCS are mostly made by the people who consume them. I make my own, at least. [08-Sep-23 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Personally I think there's a growing market for some of the weirder POPI items like STR, PFE, UTS... maybe DEC, FOD, SUN [08-Sep-23 01:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think the two factors that would need research are: 1) What's the $/Satisfaction and 2) what's your profit margin for that [08-Sep-23 01:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 if cheap HOGs become available, they will get used, but I don't know the component cost offhand [08-Sep-23 01:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Here's a chart of $ / Satisfaction at the AI1 prices I have listed: [08-Sep-23 01:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_DJS9Lmh9mJ.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_DJS9Lmh9mJ.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/bLWv4kmN3wlqLEbBrEe76t0yCcwPjsQCNVub0dJvAY8/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_DJS9Lmh9mJ.png [08-Sep-23 02:54 PM] pateirn#0000 How much are PAR's used? I looked at DEC a while back and the volume seemed very low. [08-Sep-23 03:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 DECs are very expensive for PARs, it's sort of a last result, but I have been known to use them. They also fit in ARTs, which is convenient [08-Sep-23 03:05 PM] mrsmith33#0000 btw, I will produce 10 DECs in the near future on Deimos [08-Sep-23 03:09 PM] domicius#0000 I make Dec's. Pain in the ass... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [08-Sep-23 03:20 PM] mrsmith33#0000 For me the pain comes from making EPO. Takes ages [08-Sep-23 04:18 PM] domicius#0000 Gotta make EPO and PE and then pour it into DEC [08-Sep-23 04:37 PM] pateirn#0000 I just happen to have both of those lol [08-Sep-23 04:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think everyone in the corp could have an EPO base: http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_ShnC66YAzr.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/chrome_ShnC66YAzr.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qRzDvaFptedYwSzl3qN8NsNvzETK2_zkKJW37wFPqtg/http/kortham.net/temp/chrome_ShnC66YAzr.png [08-Sep-23 04:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 you mean everyone doesn't have one of those? ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149821781109121064/b.png?ex=6814933b&is=681341bb&hm=d1e14b67f063b284bb6fc9fcf85cff8aedc7189e1b3755104b46c0b25265b4a7& [08-Sep-23 04:55 PM] pateirn#0000 I have Pol's and labs on Griff. These setups put mine to absolute shame ๐Ÿ˜‚ [08-Sep-23 04:58 PM] mrsmith33#0000 What's the base size here? [08-Sep-23 05:07 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Better question is what habitation modules are used there to fit into 500 area? [08-Sep-23 05:14 PM] mrsmith33#0000 5 HBB + 2 HB2 seems to be the best [08-Sep-23 05:29 PM] mrsmith33#0000 `YI-705c` seems to be better than `ZV-759d` for EPO [08-Sep-23 05:30 PM] higgsy#0000 I've got 750 on Griff: 10 EXT, 15 CP. There are lots of chemistry planets around so the next base is gonna be an EPO/PG one with imports from Griff [08-Sep-23 05:30 PM] higgsy#0000 Buuut, I'm still working on balancing. [08-Sep-23 05:31 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Are mixed habitation modules better that non-mixed? [08-Sep-23 05:31 PM] higgsy#0000 Yes [08-Sep-23 05:33 PM] higgsy#0000 I build as many HBB until either the PIO or SET are all housed, then build HB1 or HB2 to house the rest. [08-Sep-23 05:36 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Found a better config with one less EPO [08-Sep-23 05:37 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Exactly 500 area {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1149835981680300172/image.png?ex=6814a074&is=68134ef4&hm=2667ee2675e3563718bbfcebdaa2f243fa14940346353df5d41575234a2dee57& [08-Sep-23 05:40 PM] mrsmith33#0000 * ZV-759d EPO * YI-705c EPO [08-Sep-23 06:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's exactly 500 area, 5 HB1, 5 HB2. It's before the habitat changes, and the base ones are cheaper. And it has 2 STO [08-Sep-23 06:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 8 POL, it slightly overproduces HAL and CL [08-Sep-23 06:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 2 STO is overkill there, but I put at least one on every base because it enables me to be lazy ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Sep-23 07:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's really not nearby [10-Sep-23 09:55 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Hey @melon164, do you want me to edit any rules on `OE-568j`, while I'm admin there? It seems like all taxes are set to 20 and go to AI. I can make them 0. [10-Sep-23 11:44 AM] hernanduer#0000 oh lawdy, PG is at 70 [10-Sep-23 11:51 AM] churavis#0000 Now it's at 69 [10-Sep-23 02:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh, if you're the governor of a new planet, make sure to change the tax collector to OOG. You can do that on the local rules page [10-Sep-23 02:59 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm not in a corp yet [10-Sep-23 03:00 PM] mrsmith33#0000 and there is only one base there, which is owned by melon [10-Sep-23 03:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh sure it's not a big deal. It's a nice habit to get into, and I like how it shows up on my spreadsheet ๐Ÿ˜‰ [10-Sep-23 03:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's only been 4 days so far of your 7 day trial! But you're doing great ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Sep-23 03:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think you hold the record for fastest new member to become a governor [10-Sep-23 03:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 btw {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1150524166802518076/image.png?ex=68152721&is=6813d5a1&hm=0aba896338b639585ac33f2452bb4316684055e40b0d02bdedc18b1f2c02e13b& [10-Sep-23 03:13 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And finally empty contract list {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1150524372793180300/image.png?ex=68152752&is=6813d5d2&hm=02b29d463282869194635f2f977823523d8cfa851636cef61dd848d632df52b9& [10-Sep-23 03:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Haha, that's pretty great. That's astounding for a 76 day old account [10-Sep-23 03:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Other than the two 50 point governor contracts, what else did you get? [10-Sep-23 03:26 PM] mrsmith33#0000 just regular 1-2 rep contracts for supply/shipping [10-Sep-23 03:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 impressive! [10-Sep-23 05:16 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Should I just send the contract for resource listed on the spreadsheet, or do I need to ask first? [10-Sep-23 05:17 PM] churavis#0000 The spreadsheet isn't always up to date unfortunately so you should probably DM them, at least for the first time [10-Sep-23 05:18 PM] mrsmith33#0000 in game? [10-Sep-23 05:18 PM] churavis#0000 Discord {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Sep-23 10:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey @parisinspringtime and @fremen45 I think both of you have ended up with corp tags (HI and SS1) that were previously used by another player. As a result, your data doesn't show up in FIO and in my spreadsheets. If possible, can you try resetting your FIO data on this page? Click the "Reset My Data" button.... that's assuming you have FIO accounts set up already. https://fio.fnar.net/settings [10-Sep-23 10:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 if you don't have one, I will talk to Saganaki about how we can fix that. (I think he can remove the old player's accounts) [11-Sep-23 01:19 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 You are correct and this did cause a problem when I was registering places, including UFO, FIO and certain Discords - I've reset my data twice now and my FIO data is pulling through to another Discord successfully. I'd appreciate not resetting again and having to set up all my stuff again if possible. [11-Sep-23 02:06 AM] melon164#0000 Put ENG and SCI electronics to maximum, and the rest to zero [11-Sep-23 04:36 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I wonder why set those 2 to max {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1150726572077228052/image.png?ex=68149222&is=681340a2&hm=e068641f163489bbb46c7dcf5993e3fbebaa22cee1fdb01249fd6546261f53d6& [11-Sep-23 04:50 AM] melon164#0000 Anyone got any spare PPF capacity? I may have just taken on an order for _a hundred_ LU ๐Ÿ˜• {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฏ [11-Sep-23 10:14 AM] churavis#0000 Why would anyone want a hundred LU? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [11-Sep-23 10:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 educating the galaxy? [11-Sep-23 10:25 AM] exeler#0000 What goods do you need from the PPF? I've got a few on Heph that just print PSL,PSM and PSS in equal amounts that I never use myself. I can swap to something else if you need. [11-Sep-23 10:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 ooo, I'd buy a few hundred PSS if you have it [11-Sep-23 10:27 AM] exeler#0000 I've got 390 PSS on ANT right now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [11-Sep-23 10:40 AM] churavis#0000 Well I guess you found a way to keep all those extra UPF of yours busy [11-Sep-23 10:56 AM] melon164#0000 I need PSL [11-Sep-23 10:56 AM] melon164#0000 RWinner wants to max out Etherwind POPI [11-Sep-23 10:57 AM] churavis#0000 I feel like someone already did that somewhere [11-Sep-23 11:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 Circe? [11-Sep-23 11:05 AM] churavis#0000 Yes, that's the one. At least it makes sense on Circe since it has a COGC industry that can use all tiers of workers [11-Sep-23 11:06 AM] churavis#0000 Not sure how professor egghead is going to help pump water out of the ground {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [11-Sep-23 11:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like doing it once is a fun little achievement, but it wouldn't be very compelling to me to see it a second time [11-Sep-23 11:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 Plus 10 universities is a ton of afabs [11-Sep-23 11:10 AM] churavis#0000 Right, you won't be getting into the beer book of records for second place [11-Sep-23 11:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 might as well donate them to FireFreak so he can pump up his base count ๐Ÿ˜› [11-Sep-23 12:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Okay no worries, if you tried it once and it didnt' work, no reason to try again. Thanks [11-Sep-23 01:41 PM] higgsy#0000 Is there much demand for SOI? [11-Sep-23 02:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use it in smallish amounts in my ORCs, but larger amounts in PARs [11-Sep-23 02:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've also been using a moderate amount of REA, which is the other BRM product [11-Sep-23 05:03 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 SOI at 300/u sells very well. We haven't seen Soi at 300/u for months now [12-Sep-23 08:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 no more PG ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-23 08:30 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I started gathering resources for a PG base on Elon [12-Sep-23 09:08 AM] churavis#0000 Where are you sourcing your C from? The corp can help with H and MG but C will be more difficult. [12-Sep-23 09:35 AM] mrsmith33#0000 big question, lol [12-Sep-23 09:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I guess I should build C base first [12-Sep-23 09:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 What are the planets for that? [12-Sep-23 09:48 AM] churavis#0000 Crops for burning aren't available in large quantities either but water is so you'll want to build an agricultural base on Harmonia or Demeter and then a C burning base on Nascent. I also extract ALO on Nascent to free up space on Deimos. Use the slow burning recipe as farms take up more space than incinerators. MAI grows slightly faster but is heavier to transport [12-Sep-23 10:13 AM] churavis#0000 If you need a loan to pay for all these bases all at once then talk to Allocater on the back channel. You'll want to build things quick to take advantage of the high pg prices before they inevitably go down again. [12-Sep-23 10:32 AM] churavis#0000 You could probably make more C than you need right now and sell it at a good margin while prices are high and use it for future expansion if prices ever go down. [12-Sep-23 10:42 AM] mrsmith33#0000 So, GRN or HCP? [12-Sep-23 10:43 AM] hernanduer#0000 sizing of FPs frustrates me [12-Sep-23 10:43 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Also, there are recipes with 1, 2, 4 water [12-Sep-23 10:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Harmonia 13xFRM ``` H2O OUTPUT GRN -40.42 161.67 GRN -215.56 215.56 HCP -80.84 161.67 MAI -57.74 173.22 ``` [12-Sep-23 11:17 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Got pretty close numbers ``` Harmonia 13xFRM+1xRIG max experts -189.06xH2O +215.56xGRN Nascent 33xINC max experts -211.86xGRN +211.86xC ``` [12-Sep-23 11:20 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Or I can remove 1 HB1 and add 1STO. This will be 20 Pioneer deficit. Gives `-208.65xGRN +208.65xC` [12-Sep-23 11:21 AM] pateirn#0000 From my knowledge, HCP+GRN, HCP+MAI, and the recipe with all 3 are the best (the last one juices speed for production cost) [12-Sep-23 11:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 that depends on if you're short INC space or Agri space. Agri space tends to be more difficult to find [12-Sep-23 11:23 AM] pateirn#0000 Okay, I am still building out and very interested in this discussion. Let's say 2 bases feeding INC (harm, demeter and nascent). What is the best math? [12-Sep-23 11:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think you'd really go the HYF route, so I'd crank out HCP from HYFs on Harmonia [12-Sep-23 11:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 my Demeter base is 2 ORC and 6 FRM [12-Sep-23 11:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 so it's a matter of if you want to go all in on C production, or do you want to make foods too? [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 I prefer foods, but that's just my _taste_ [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] emperyan11#0000 Anybody want to play "Dumb Questions from Emperyan"? [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 no questions are dumb [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] pateirn#0000 Okay, that is my structure so far. 20 HYF on Harm, (demeter not built yet) [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] emperyan11#0000 How do I get more slots at my bases... (I feel I should know this already, lol) [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 BS command, Add the permit [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 you need a permit [12-Sep-23 11:25 AM] emperyan11#0000 doesn't that just allow more bases? [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 nope it increases base size [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] pateirn#0000 And to boost to 750 and 1000 [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 500, 750, 1k for 3 permits [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 if you have the logistics though, probably better to make a new base [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] emperyan11#0000 Perfect! [12-Sep-23 11:26 AM] emperyan11#0000 I'm expanding my forgeworks at Deimos [12-Sep-23 11:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 you don't have a Vulcan base, why not go there ๐Ÿ˜‰ [12-Sep-23 11:27 AM] pateirn#0000 Just did that too. Vulcan is fun so far lol [12-Sep-23 11:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 as to that though, 20 HYF should be able to supply a LOT of stuff [12-Sep-23 11:28 AM] emperyan11#0000 'Cuz there's no AL there? [12-Sep-23 11:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 mine on Nascent, ship to Vulcan, make cool on Deimos [12-Sep-23 11:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's what I do, basically [12-Sep-23 11:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 sans the Nascent part because I use wayyyy to much AL [12-Sep-23 11:29 AM] pateirn#0000 Yeah, I need to see how I wanna split EXT and INC in nascent. [12-Sep-23 11:31 AM] emperyan11#0000 Good thoughts, thank you for playing ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿคช [12-Sep-23 11:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 33 INCs with MAI and HCP [12-Sep-23 11:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 gets you 316 C/d, and uses I think 14 HYFs [12-Sep-23 11:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 17 HYF [12-Sep-23 11:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 so that's only two bases netting you >300C/d [12-Sep-23 11:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 and a little space for some CAF farming or something [12-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 might want another STO on Nascent though with that, 500 in, 700 out/d is a LOT lol [12-Sep-23 11:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 What's the ordering on extra building materials (SEA, INS) cost-wise? Cheapest to most expensive [12-Sep-23 11:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/870777970367811604/1149197707219578911 [12-Sep-23 11:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 some are building dependent, but the general order is unchanging [12-Sep-23 11:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 So, `SEA < BL < (AEF = MGC = HSE) < INS < TSH` [12-Sep-23 11:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 you can basically ignore BL and MGC [12-Sep-23 11:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 there's maybe 1 or 2 planets in the galaxy utilizing them [12-Sep-23 11:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 With 1000 area base and 3crop recipe you can get 1300 C/d [12-Sep-23 11:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 and how do you suppose to supply that base? ๐Ÿ™‚ [12-Sep-23 11:54 AM] churavis#0000 Trust me, do the slow recipe. If you're able to buy more burnables or the price of C is super high then you can temporarily use the faster recipe, but you can't really depends on the CX for crops and fertile planets are in short supply. [12-Sep-23 11:55 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Can HYF be built on any planet? [12-Sep-23 11:56 AM] churavis#0000 Any planet you can supply ample amounts of water and nutrient solution to, yes [12-Sep-23 12:04 PM] mrsmith33#0000 This is the plan [12-Sep-23 12:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 You'll probably want an Agri CoGC for the HYF planet if possible, but it might not be [12-Sep-23 01:03 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have the money now. How to best organize buying of building materials? [12-Sep-23 01:04 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1151216765972512858/image.png?ex=68150929&is=6813b7a9&hm=e004e94df41ede5b1f409d67834b324252a8ac7b8844e2bc7a7308ddd21dde59& [12-Sep-23 01:11 PM] churavis#0000 Send me a contract for the PSL. Put up LM ads on Nike for everything else in chunks of no more than 1000 for the MCG and 50 for anything else. Start with the one base first and build up inputs for the next one before you move on. [12-Sep-23 01:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Do I post SEA on LM too? [12-Sep-23 01:54 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Posted SEA in chunks of 100 to Nike [12-Sep-23 01:57 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And someone just posted a shipping AD from Deimos to Nike, and I have an empty ship that goes there. Perfect! [12-Sep-23 03:59 PM] melon164#0000 Rwinner's also asked me to try and broker a deal on afabs for his POPI project (300 ABH, 200 ADE, 300 ATA) ๐Ÿค” [12-Sep-23 04:18 PM] dehzhas#0000 Well... I still don't have the AFABs for my next HQ upgrade, so... maybe I could be in line first? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [12-Sep-23 04:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I don't think I'd give discounts for that goofy project ๐Ÿ˜› But that's just my opinion [12-Sep-23 04:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 does he want to join OOG? ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-23 04:44 PM] pateirn#0000 I sincerely doubt Rwin would leave FIOC [12-Sep-23 04:44 PM] pateirn#0000 Good dude though [12-Sep-23 04:44 PM] churavis#0000 I wouldn't give him corp pricing either, nor would I prioritize him over corp members. I can barely keep up with the corp needs right now as it is. [12-Sep-23 05:23 PM] mrsmith33#0000 With all the building activities, I definitely need bigger ships [12-Sep-23 05:50 PM] churavis#0000 We've got upgrade kits to make them haulers with 3kt/1kv [12-Sep-23 05:57 PM] melon164#0000 I think this is pretty much my thought too; I'll tell him we don't have the capacity. [12-Sep-23 10:47 PM] fremen45#0000 I am wondering if there is need or interest in acquiring CLI? none on ANT yet but seeing if there are interested buyers? [13-Sep-23 12:51 AM] exeler#0000 The auction bot got a new feature: A `/order` command for requesting items rather than providing them. It works similarly to the `/auction` command, just you're asking for items at a specific price in a specific place. Other people can choose to fulfill the whole order, or just a portion of it. Hopefully the command and buttons are fairly intuitive, especially if you've been using the auction command already. As usualy though, if there'ss any questions let me know! Also, if there's any feedback on how the command might be improved, let me know. This was put together pretty quickly, so if there's a way I can make it better I'd love to hear it! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ (2) [13-Sep-23 12:55 AM] mrsmith33#0000 What does Finish button do on auctions? [13-Sep-23 12:58 AM] exeler#0000 It only works if you're the one who started the auction. You press it when you're ready to distribute the goods and the bot will calculate how much each person who put in a bid will get. It'll also calculate the total cost for each bidder so that it's easy to put in the contracts [13-Sep-23 12:59 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I guess there is no way to hide this button for other users? [13-Sep-23 01:00 AM] exeler#0000 I wish. Discord isn't the greatest platform for dynamic UIs ๐Ÿ˜… [13-Sep-23 05:56 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Looks like 2k/2k is better on some bases. On others 3kt is slightly better [13-Sep-23 08:46 AM] churavis#0000 For upgrading starter ships, you'll want to do a hauler. The 2kt/2kv carrier upgrade is much more expensive since it requires a bigger crew quarters and more besides. Two haulers will be enough for 3 bases even if they're not optimal. [13-Sep-23 08:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 ok, how much is the hauler? [13-Sep-23 08:47 AM] churavis#0000 You'll have to ask the ship building channel as I don't produce WCB [13-Sep-23 10:32 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @archielvahr It's been a week {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [13-Sep-23 10:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Invite sent! Welcome aboard ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Sep-23 10:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm in, guys [13-Sep-23 10:59 AM] churavis#0000 You're supposed to say that into your sleeve, not out loud {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [13-Sep-23 12:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome to both @mrsmith33 and @maddenhenge who both just completed their trial period while staying active in discord ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} partyglasses (3) [14-Sep-23 05:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 First base is going {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1151820836198686773/image.png?ex=681498bf&is=6813473f&hm=7e0e8332dd0d12d631051e1c9ab509d125c324930600600a96d23f32fe3ab840& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŒพ (2) [14-Sep-23 10:09 AM] maddenhenge#0000 Lotta farmin [14-Sep-23 12:40 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Hi @rune_242, I requested 2000 PG, not 20000 PG [14-Sep-23 12:41 PM] rune_242#0000 owww [14-Sep-23 12:41 PM] rune_242#0000 I read that wrong in the auction channel๐Ÿ˜… [14-Sep-23 12:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 no worries [14-Sep-23 12:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 yum yum yum, a month's worth of PG {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [14-Sep-23 12:42 PM] rune_242#0000 where do you need you're PG? [14-Sep-23 12:42 PM] rune_242#0000 I have stocks on nike and hep [14-Sep-23 12:42 PM] rune_242#0000 if it's just for 2k I'll draft a contract for there [14-Sep-23 12:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Nike is ok, I will be there soon [14-Sep-23 12:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 actually Antares will be better [14-Sep-23 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 ow [14-Sep-23 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 I can do that too [14-Sep-23 12:44 PM] mrsmith33#0000 sorry, just noticed that first one was on Ant [14-Sep-23 12:44 PM] rune_242#0000 but that one was also 20k [14-Sep-23 12:45 PM] rune_242#0000 it will require some shipping though [15-Sep-23 05:22 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Second base on-line {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1152187772736655420/image.png?ex=68149cfb&is=68134b7b&hm=ef5c646f9ec3ca938eb3769f298f0a26fdf0c9bde306a4e66fc034a02ab4e248& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) โœ๏ธ [15-Sep-23 06:43 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Though I don't have enough Pioneers, only 987 out of 1320 required [15-Sep-23 08:48 AM] pateirn#0000 Do you have any STO on this base? I think the math is 31 INC/2 STO. I counted 33. [15-Sep-23 08:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 1 STO {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Sep-23 08:50 AM] pateirn#0000 If you have the shipping to swing it with 1, all the power to you. I would be over the 1 STO cap already though, might be easier with 2. [15-Sep-23 08:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 2 starter ships, that will be upgraded to haulers in ~3&10 days [15-Sep-23 08:52 AM] pateirn#0000 Awesome ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Sep-23 09:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 To this moment I used less fuel than I was getting from AI contracts. This is no longer true with new bases ๐Ÿ˜ข [15-Sep-23 11:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 @exeler maybe for the requests, there be a possibility to counter as well at a different price point? Then a button to accept it that's only clickable by the request owner [15-Sep-23 11:28 AM] exeler#0000 I think that the limitation there would be implementing a way for the request owner to accept/reject the counter offers. Discord doesn't really have a way to put lots of buttons onto a message. So ideally I'd love to have a little accept/reject button next to each counter offer, but that doesn't seem possible with discord unless there's a new message per counteroffer. I suppose the bot could DM counteroffers to the request owner who could then approve/reject them ๐Ÿค” I think for now just starting a normal conversation with the owner for a counteroffer might be easier. I'll take a look at adding a cleaner counteroffer option though. [15-Sep-23 11:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 ahhh, yeah that's what I was kind of picturing. Shame that's not possible then, but you're right, conversation would probably just be easier at that point [15-Sep-23 11:31 AM] churavis#0000 DMs would be preferred so as to not clutter up the auctions channel [15-Sep-23 11:32 AM] exeler#0000 Yeah, discord's commands and modals are limited pretty heavily when it comes to cramming lots of buttons and input fields together. Unfortunately PU is a game about lots of little UI components crammed together ๐Ÿ˜… [15-Sep-23 11:34 AM] exeler#0000 Related to cluttering up the auctions channel, I was wondering if we should keep /order usage out of there. Doing order requests manually, we've been putting "Looking for X" type messages into the planet channels where they're relevant. Perhaps we could do the same with /order? Although it could get buried under normal conversation. Should we add a #orders channel for requesting items? [15-Sep-23 11:34 AM] exeler#0000 Or is having auctions and orders mixed together fine? [15-Sep-23 11:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 maybe once an order is filled it can be blanked out as a message? [15-Sep-23 11:36 AM] hernanduer#0000 but keep it in auctions [15-Sep-23 11:36 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's just my opinion - if it takes up less space once resolved I'd be fine with keeping it there [15-Sep-23 11:38 AM] exeler#0000 ๐Ÿค” I could have the bot clean up completed orders and auctions after a while (maybe a week or so?) It can't clean up the messages immediately because people need to read the final state to send out contracts, but I do think some kind of eventual cleanup would be handy. That way it's easy to see all the active auctions with just a few scrolls. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ’ฏ [15-Sep-23 11:40 AM] dehzhas#0000 Another possibility is to just add another channel: "orders" so we have "auctions" and "orders" to keep them separate {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [15-Sep-23 11:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 the auctions I'm happy with, but isn't the person fulfilling the request the one sending the contract? [15-Sep-23 11:43 AM] hernanduer#0000 so they don't need to see anything except the person to send the contract to [15-Sep-23 11:46 AM] churavis#0000 Maybe make an archive channel for finished auctions/orders? {Reactions} ๐ŸŽฏ (5) [15-Sep-23 11:53 AM] dehzhas#0000 This would actually work amazingly well. It would keep all the active ones in one place but all the history would be there if you needed it. [15-Sep-23 02:22 PM] exeler#0000 The bot also has the auctions stored in a database. We wouldn't need them stored in discord channels at all. Could retrieve them on demand if you were looking for something. I also have some wild plans to make a webpage for the bot so get around discord's UI limitations a bit. [16-Sep-23 01:01 AM] fremen45#0000 Does anyone have an NE tap? I searched the sheet and did not see a price on there for it. [16-Sep-23 02:30 AM] melon164#0000 The best NE tap is AJ-135e, all the ones in Antares are awful. I'm going to buy a load from Ogrebeef from there, although I would also buy a load from anyone here who did set up a tap there! [16-Sep-23 11:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 hey @exeler, can we get a SUN auction soon? I've run out on Nike. Can also just buy direct if you want [16-Sep-23 01:17 PM] exeler#0000 Sure, I've got a few on hand right now. How many would you expect to need/want so I can start putting in some produciton orders? [16-Sep-23 01:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 about 550/month [16-Sep-23 01:42 PM] exeler#0000 Oh, that's not a lot at all. I've got 400 on ANT I'll throw an auction up today and queue up some more. [16-Sep-23 02:32 PM] churavis#0000 I've put up an NE auction for anyone who needs it, at the same cost I paid for it on HOR [16-Sep-23 02:32 PM] churavis#0000 I also have some AEF in stock on Nike now [17-Sep-23 04:38 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” maybe I should sell some SC... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1152901310950154310/image.png?ex=68149284&is=68134104&hm=f9320538c38e8a070636b305b5e3043966b54b007d335c2def78c4666f4fd41b& [17-Sep-23 08:06 AM] churavis#0000 You could make your own clone army with that many stem cells {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅ (2) [17-Sep-23 09:56 AM] melon164#0000 wtb all the PSL that anyone can spare [17-Sep-23 12:40 PM] exeler#0000 Throw up a `/order`. I think I'm sitting on a decent bit, but probably not enough to cover everything you need. [17-Sep-23 03:53 PM] fremen45#0000 does anyone make WS for scientists? not seeing it listed in the sheet. [17-Sep-23 04:35 PM] melon164#0000 I make some on Heph [17-Sep-23 05:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 I've started making a bit as well, also on Heph [18-Sep-23 03:40 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Would it make sense to have an optional ending date of auctions? This way bidders would know when to expect the contract [18-Sep-23 03:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 they were originally going to be timed, but really it's just gonna happen when it happens [18-Sep-23 03:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd say don't expect the auctions to ever finish by a certain time [18-Sep-23 03:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 because no matter what the person is gonna have to get on to make the contracts [18-Sep-23 03:44 PM] churavis#0000 If the auctions finish automatically then I'll end up forgetting about many of them for sure [18-Sep-23 10:21 PM] exeler#0000 That's on the feature list and is actually pretty high up on the list of things to do next [19-Sep-23 09:27 AM] pateirn#0000 So I am trying to optimize my base structure. I am currently making I for MHL on Nike at Elon. Does it make more sense to move that to YK-005d and use Elon for Chem? [19-Sep-23 09:27 AM] pateirn#0000 (17 WEL's a useful relic from my old corp lol) [19-Sep-23 09:29 AM] churavis#0000 Depends on what you're optimizing for, simplicity of logistics or efficiency in production [19-Sep-23 09:30 AM] pateirn#0000 I mean I would like a good mix of both. Elon is basically just an island of I for me right now, so I don't think the logistics change significantly. [19-Sep-23 09:32 AM] pateirn#0000 Thinking about PG on Elon, which actually depends on how much MG you could sell me lol [19-Sep-23 09:33 AM] churavis#0000 I have plenty of extra capacity for MG production right now and could expand if needed. Each BMP can make quite a lot and I have many of them with full experts. [19-Sep-23 09:46 AM] pateirn#0000 Solid, thanks for the input ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Sep-23 10:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think the main reason you might want to move would be if you want Nike for Engineers and Technicians to run PP4s. WELs only use Pioneers, so they could be placed on a smaller construction planet if you went in that direction. [19-Sep-23 10:24 AM] pateirn#0000 Okay, hadn't thought about that. But it makes sense [19-Sep-23 10:24 AM] pateirn#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1153713118619390022/image.png?ex=6814e392&is=68139212&hm=adc7de6d1ac22ec636e82e5ae7ba6a3620366c0f85b5a6db6091776fb26f9d41& [19-Sep-23 10:24 AM] pateirn#0000 That is my current setup. [19-Sep-23 10:29 AM] pateirn#0000 Something like ZV-194B for the WEL's then? [19-Sep-23 10:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, that's definitely an option! [19-Sep-23 10:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 Aceland (QJ-684b) is another [19-Sep-23 02:56 PM] higgsy#0000 "Bored Room" ๐Ÿ˜† [19-Sep-23 03:08 PM] churavis#0000 You just noticed that? [20-Sep-23 03:05 PM] higgsy#0000 I guess? I've been really busy for like almost a month. [20-Sep-23 03:17 PM] churavis#0000 It's been there for longer than you've been here [20-Sep-23 03:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I've never seen anyone in it! [20-Sep-23 08:59 PM] exeler#0000 Only boring people get bored. Guess we don't have any boring people in OOG. You might say... Boogers are fun. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [20-Sep-23 10:40 PM] fremen45#0000 Would there be internal interest in TCL if I produced it? [21-Sep-23 12:16 AM] domicius#0000 I use it a bit [21-Sep-23 12:19 AM] churavis#0000 I think the corp could use more NR based on lopsided demand for ABH more than any other Afabs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [21-Sep-23 12:44 AM] exeler#0000 I'd buy a small amount regularly [21-Sep-23 03:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I need some [21-Sep-23 07:26 AM] rune_242#0000 I'll start NR production again very soon [21-Sep-23 07:27 AM] rune_242#0000 It will be 9 LAB's on 150% [21-Sep-23 07:29 AM] rune_242#0000 I could start now if I had the EPO [21-Sep-23 01:11 PM] allocater#0000 buy 5000 EPO on the CX for 140 [21-Sep-23 01:51 PM] pateirn#0000 I'll sell you 2.5k more if you need at that price too [21-Sep-23 11:22 PM] exeler#0000 Woah what happened to the price of PSL on the CX? I was gonna buy 12 off the CX for convenience since all mine's on Heph right now. But these prices are crazy. [21-Sep-23 11:23 PM] churavis#0000 I can sell you 12 on ANT right now {Reactions} partyglasses [21-Sep-23 11:23 PM] exeler#0000 I can trade for 12 on Heph, otherwise how much per do you want? [21-Sep-23 11:24 PM] churavis#0000 Either one, 2k/u [21-Sep-23 11:25 PM] exeler#0000 I'll just buy it outright, fewer contracts required that way {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (2) [22-Sep-23 02:02 AM] higgsy#0000 I'm expanding chem on Griff now that we've got a HAL supplier. I can do more NR. [22-Sep-23 02:07 AM] fremen45#0000 who is that? [22-Sep-23 09:39 AM] martinks#0000 Joined the server. [22-Sep-23 09:39 AM] martinks#0000 Hey everyone ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (5) [22-Sep-23 09:40 AM] tuffyless#0000 ๐Ÿ‘‹ [22-Sep-23 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome martinks! They reached out to me and have a fresh base on Deimos Take a look at our โ #welcome and #โ rules-faq channels. Then we've got our โ auctions system, which you are welcome to participate in during your one week trial period. As always, let any of us know if you have any questions. There's a ton of stuff in discord to see [22-Sep-23 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 And when you get a chance, set your discord username on this server to "prunUsername | company name (or code)" [22-Sep-23 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 so people can find you easily in-game [22-Sep-23 02:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 Howdy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) [23-Sep-23 10:30 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Hey @treebear0235, which contracts do you want to terminate, and which should be fullfilled? [23-Sep-23 10:31 AM] mrsmith33#0000 do you really want to terminate E3THKVJ? [23-Sep-23 05:02 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @martin1194 I accepted the correct one and got 500 RAT. All seems good. You can terminate the incorrect one that's yet unterminated [24-Sep-23 03:26 AM] martin1194#0000 My bad. I forgot CONST now is type in EA price. : < [24-Sep-23 03:26 AM] martin1194#0000 Thank you for understanding :< {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Sep-23 11:59 PM] martin1194#0000 I found that FEO transport cost is higher than ALO. Seem not good for PP1 to make B's prefab. [25-Sep-23 01:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Does PP1 even make sense? I am doing every bfab in PP2 [25-Sep-23 02:05 AM] melon164#0000 You're making BDE out of PG? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [25-Sep-23 03:14 AM] rune_242#0000 I have 5 PP1 making BDE [25-Sep-23 03:47 AM] domicius#0000 Same [25-Sep-23 08:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 since I don't have any PP1s, BDE are actually the only prefab I don't make ๐Ÿ˜ด [25-Sep-23 08:31 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I rarely produce BDEs, mostly BSE, BBH, BTA, LDE [25-Sep-23 08:32 AM] churavis#0000 AL has been more expensive than FE on the CX for weeks. Judging by prices at all the other markets, it's going to stay that way for a while longer. [25-Sep-23 08:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm doing my own AL on Deimos, so it is cheap for me [25-Sep-23 08:40 AM] churavis#0000 Opportunity costs aside, you can do your own FE on Vulcan too [25-Sep-23 08:55 AM] mrsmith33#0000 that is a problem for the future me [25-Sep-23 08:55 AM] churavis#0000 https://tenor.com/view/problem-for-future-me-futureme-gif-18783924 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/problem-for-future-me-futureme-gif-18783924 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/A-PuwPDvpFo1bTJK_vxfOIeTnTiiMJQ6xyTg1FhQ8lE/https/media.tenor.com/bAekfNLu-0AAAAAe/problem-for.png [25-Sep-23 09:01 AM] fremen45#0000 I would need to consult the oracle that is my production. But there is a chance that I might be able to influence that market. Not saying itโ€™s a certainty, but if we wanted to plan it out my production with a little help could probably push that price lower. [25-Sep-23 09:02 AM] fremen45#0000 Thatโ€™s for AL. [25-Sep-23 09:02 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Does any planet search tool show current COGC? PRUNPlanner only allows to filter it [25-Sep-23 09:08 AM] hernanduer#0000 FIO does [25-Sep-23 09:17 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Cool, if it worked reliably [25-Sep-23 03:11 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hi does anybody know this relation? Level Required Current Workforce Capacity Satisfaction Pioneers 1,310 1089 (119) 1,200 [25-Sep-23 03:11 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 I built pioneer habits but the workforce isnt raising. I made already one permit [25-Sep-23 03:11 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 i just activated the permit [25-Sep-23 03:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which planet is it? [25-Sep-23 03:12 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 main base Deimos [25-Sep-23 03:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 A few things: you need 1310 Pioneers, but only have enough habitats for 1200. [25-Sep-23 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 You only have 1089, but more will show up next population report (in 1 day, 12 hours) [25-Sep-23 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 the (119) is 119 pioneers from the "workforce pool" [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 I notice that the pioneer count on Deimos is close to 0% unemployement. [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 weirdly 1089+119 > 1200, so I'm not sure if the 1089 includes the 119 or not [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 thanks Archiel [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 helps me a lot man [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 One more habitat is probably ideal [25-Sep-23 03:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 glad to help ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 appreciate# [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Deimos has low unemployment, so it's possible the extra workforce pool ran out [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Either way it'll probably fix itself in 1d 12h, which is when the next report happens [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 maybe it makes sense to start second base? [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 `POPR ZV-759c` [25-Sep-23 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 if that one is full, start another! ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Sep-23 03:17 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Yeah ๐Ÿ™‚ But so expensive [25-Sep-23 03:17 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 all the materials [25-Sep-23 03:31 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I just realised that the base GL recipe produces THE SAME UNITS PER DAY as the FLX recipe?! I feel like I'm going crazy. Why would I use the FLX recipe? [25-Sep-23 03:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 You are totally right, this doesn't make any sense [25-Sep-23 03:39 PM] domicius#0000 Might be a typo? [25-Sep-23 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 More GL for for SIO I guess.. but if it's not faster.... [25-Sep-23 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 They did rework the SIO recipes during this universe [25-Sep-23 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Before that, they didn't use NA [25-Sep-23 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 but yeah, it's a weird one [25-Sep-23 04:23 PM] mrsmith33#0000 it is cheaper it seems [25-Sep-23 05:12 PM] higgsy#0000 Anyone interested in separating the Auctions channel into separate Buying and Selling channels? [25-Sep-23 05:13 PM] exeler#0000 I'd like that. Maybe #auctions and #orders? [25-Sep-23 05:13 PM] higgsy#0000 Sounds good [25-Sep-23 05:27 PM] churavis#0000 We talked about this already and decided it would be better to have an auctions and archive auctions channel rather separate auctions and orders [25-Sep-23 05:29 PM] churavis#0000 That way, everyone can mute the archive channel but still have it for reference if needed. The bot can clean up the auctions channel every day or so and then it will only have open or recently closed auctions and orders. [25-Sep-23 09:34 PM] tuffyless#0000 So the ship STL travel time -vs SF usage is so glitchy. My kids use that 'glitchy' term and I hate it but seems fitting to use here. One click says 13h49m. But another says 13h2m. I know the ETA timing is accurate but is the STL use too? Any idea about the damage calc differences? EDIT: Just noticed the distance changes too, even though the source/destination is the same. QUESTION: Would this mean to keep clicking the same Fuel Usage until the minimum distance is appears and then go with that? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1156056193798783076/image.png?ex=6814d7fb&is=6813867b&hm=44530153510acca26df18ccbf1c925e3b47ccc444ee8fca227fbfb070addfdd2& [25-Sep-23 09:35 PM] tuffyless#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1156056434585387078/image.png?ex=6814d834&is=681386b4&hm=37ba3ddfa7abc978efebae6d195806d9377c390007693034ca2f36ce99f2e243& [25-Sep-23 09:52 PM] fremen45#0000 Iโ€™ve seen this behavior. While I donโ€™t have an answer. I would say check your fuel usage when you do this. Because I have noticed that sometimes the shorter time has a higher fuel usage even though I would have sworn that I did not move the slider. [25-Sep-23 10:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 My understanding is that there's a known bug where clicking multiple times in the same spot on the fuel usages will cause it to recalculate the flight path. Usually it gets the same path, but sometimes it ends up going the wrong direction around the orbit of the Hohmann transfer and ends up with a path that takes more time (sometimes drastically more). Cause all that stuff is modeled as part of SF flight and there are multiple valid transfers. [25-Sep-23 10:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah, this is exactly it. If you open the system view while you're planning the flight, you can see the planned transfers before sending the ship. You'll see the approach direction go with or against the orbit of the planet, vastly increasing or decreasing the travel time [25-Sep-23 10:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 I wish it would just always pick the fastest time. Also, the arbitrariness of the FTL inlet/outlet points really bothers me. There's no guidance on if it's gravity wells or what exactly the ships are flying away from, but that can also impact the planned flight on the initial section as well (does it fly to an FTL exit point behind the planet or in front of it) [25-Sep-23 10:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah, @exeler if the bot can do it, that'd be the best. I thought that's what we sort of decided on before? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Sep-23 10:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 I can help with that if you don't have time, maybe some weekend [25-Sep-23 10:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 the fact that STL flight takes a different amount of time depending where things are in their orbit is "neat"... but actually awful because you don't really have the information to make use of those time windows... it just means STL travel is different each time for no gameplay reason [25-Sep-23 10:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, STL flight to distant planets within a system can take quite a bit more time than FTLing out and back in [25-Sep-23 10:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 which is obnoxious, and given that, it'd be nice if the route planning system tried to jump out then back in [25-Sep-23 10:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 the flight computer is already overloaded trying to find the usually correct Hohmann transfer ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Sep-23 10:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 the system map is the only UI I open less than the universe map ๐Ÿฅฒ [26-Sep-23 04:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 For a moment I was trying to figure out what a DISNUCT was [26-Sep-23 04:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-09-26_16-13-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-09-26_16-13-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/P3iY96eO6nkeeWZ7E0MD97h2RcmwMrki2sn4uWMYoCA/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-09-26_16-13-11.png [26-Sep-23 04:15 PM] churavis#0000 Did you type it into a new buffer? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [26-Sep-23 04:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 Deep-space Interstellar Spacecraft Navigation and Universal Communication Technology {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (3) [26-Sep-23 09:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 Is it just me or is fio not working [26-Sep-23 09:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 It wasn't working very well the last couple of days either [26-Sep-23 10:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it's been weird for me [27-Sep-23 02:01 AM] domicius#0000 I have to keep resetting [27-Sep-23 07:56 AM] hernanduer#0000 I just can't even get it to load [27-Sep-23 01:13 PM] higgsy#0000 When did AL get so expensive? ๐Ÿค‘ [27-Sep-23 01:16 PM] churavis#0000 Because carbon and iron got expensive [27-Sep-23 01:16 PM] churavis#0000 And bfabs and lfabs [27-Sep-23 05:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 Chicken and egg a bit there. I'd say the demand has just outstripped the supply a bit [28-Sep-23 12:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Well I don't know if I'll keep this going... but I have my own FIO backend: [28-Sep-23 12:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.homeip.net:4443/user/corporation/OOG [28-Sep-23 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I miiight add the new field `activeDaysPerWeek` so I can track users better. Although FIORest is sorta on the way out, and there's a new backend that's in progress. [28-Sep-23 12:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 plus there's a ton of data I don't have in my local db [29-Sep-23 06:28 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Apparently I'm the go-to for fringe building mats. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1157277742132379649/image.png?ex=6814ac62&is=68135ae2&hm=81bd19d2c19d001185c72132582137fe5664e9ff305da846ae4a8108c14ffef5& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1157277742694404186/image.png?ex=6814ac63&is=68135ae3&hm=aac443f9f83c0617e1dca63b00bf7812fa99ef6ae1fd80676316a8a37c67bbb1& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1157277742929289288/image.png?ex=6814ac63&is=68135ae3&hm=9c82134bb9e98a5ee30e8f299b1f12687f829fff068935fcfdcb29b09d79b41b& [29-Sep-23 09:37 AM] emperyan11#0000 Re: #auctions, I've actually kinda stopped looking in there because all of the Order clutter... [29-Sep-23 09:38 AM] melon164#0000 Well you can look again ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Sep-23 10:04 AM] domicius#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1157332146076258314/tempFileForShare_20230929-160424.jpg?ex=6814df0d&is=68138d8d&hm=8947b5a639da98a4a072239f56cfa99220b1490a5a6a4e36f28166a8752e33a3& [29-Sep-23 10:23 AM] exeler#0000 What melon said. We have a #orders channel now so we can keep things separated. [29-Sep-23 10:40 AM] emperyan11#0000 Huzzah! [29-Sep-23 02:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 fio is broke again and I don't think this is working either ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [29-Sep-23 02:50 PM] higgsy#0000 I'm glad we went Order instead of continuing to have Faith in the 1 auction channel system. [29-Sep-23 03:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah I had too many IDEs open and had to close that one [29-Sep-23 03:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think rewriting the sheets to avoid google's import logic might help [01-Oct-23 02:07 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Someone just bought 1.4M worth of EPO, lol [02-Oct-23 08:16 AM] allocater#0000 time to dump my EPO reserves ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Oct-23 04:02 PM] mrsmith33#0000 This is a first of a kind for me {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1158509388743573635/image.png?ex=68148a32&is=681338b2&hm=c08b878973b7926981d0514fd0803068cdf5660e76bda38e49344922280c1993& [02-Oct-23 04:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nice, I've never seen one of those [02-Oct-23 09:04 PM] fremen45#0000 Given the price of BER I am considering keeping IY-206C open. I am looking for who all needs BER/ was buying off the MM at ANT and would want to buy off of me? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [02-Oct-23 09:05 PM] fremen45#0000 the responses to this will determine if I shut down or expand IY-206C [04-Oct-23 10:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 You can always max out the EXT base, stockpile thousands on ANT, and then decide to shut down the base and move the permits elsewhere once you get too much. That's basically what I did with fluoride. [07-Oct-23 08:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Very profitable shipment ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1160208257399410829/image.png?ex=6814c9a4&is=68137824&hm=ab10872e28a5a3bd0dc58897eda967bef53ddcd24cedae08984777c6a7880d4a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ (3) ๐Ÿ“ถ [08-Oct-23 03:49 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 ๐Ÿคฃ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1160499093873897481/image.png?ex=68148701&is=68133581&hm=67b8df06ff63f5a50a67bc759ad25dcc512410509915a73dca6bea38fac515a4& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (6) ๐Ÿ˜ท (2) [10-Oct-23 04:20 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 question regarding relocating the HQ: after relocating my HQ does it keep its level? i'm considering relocating from harmonia to nike. [10-Oct-23 04:31 AM] melon164#0000 Yes [10-Oct-23 04:33 AM] domicius#0000 Just be careful to pick the right planets, as the relocation function is locked after that for a while [10-Oct-23 04:33 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 alright. thanks. [14-Oct-23 08:01 PM] churavis#0000 Level 25! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1162918171385286758/image.png?ex=6814c232&is=681370b2&hm=44b8d99d1c17baafc5b9b52c357bc37713d7b23e9cbbffe7e16ad311c8e2ce5f& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [14-Oct-23 08:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Just when I thought I was catching up! [15-Oct-23 01:44 PM] higgsy#0000 What do y'all use (possibly cursed) SIO for? [15-Oct-23 01:50 PM] mrsmith33#0000 GL, SI [15-Oct-23 02:07 PM] exeler#0000 A little bit of SI and some MCG [15-Oct-23 02:07 PM] exeler#0000 The devil's temples need a solid foundation to stand the test of time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) [15-Oct-23 04:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 most of mine ends up in the electronic components, ROM for software or the stuff that eventually turns into LOG/COM/ADS, etc [15-Oct-23 04:31 PM] churavis#0000 I'm certain none of those products will turn out to be cursed [15-Oct-23 04:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 FFCs driven by WAI made with possibly cursed SIO [15-Oct-23 04:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's just bad juju [15-Oct-23 04:58 PM] churavis#0000 All my products come with a 100% good juju guarantee* [16-Oct-23 10:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 \* *who considers juju to be good or bad is determined at the sole discretion of the planet owner and may include cannibalism, starvation and hauntings* {Reactions} ๐Ÿ” ๐Ÿ”ก ๐Ÿง (2) ๐Ÿ‘ป (2) [16-Oct-23 10:57 AM] domicius#0000 So you claim, but the last SIO shipment turned several of my pioneers into zombies. Now I have to give them BRN instead of COF, however their conversational skills have improved, so there's that. [16-Oct-23 10:58 AM] churavis#0000 That's just the good juju in action. BRN is cheaper than COF anyways. {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  (2) [16-Oct-23 02:55 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hey guys what about the white planets? Can I just colonize theme like the red ones? [16-Oct-23 03:14 PM] churavis#0000 Yes, the differences are mostly inconsequential [16-Oct-23 03:46 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Finally, an exploration contract that I will do {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1163578849200709713/image.png?ex=6814867f&is=681334ff&hm=23cf807b8628c2d51c5402b6190b1f800c9a6245ff89fbc9ccc2d86471f192ad& [16-Oct-23 03:53 PM] churavis#0000 Careful, that's a dangerous planet [16-Oct-23 03:58 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yea, with all that chemistry going on, one must be very careful {Reactions} ๐Ÿงช [16-Oct-23 04:16 PM] churavis#0000 I'm sure all the strange, disfigured creatures out there aren't at all the result of waste products being, uh, returned to the environment. [16-Oct-23 07:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 Nothing like selling 2 LCBs in one day. It comes in waves like that {Reactions} ๐ŸŒŠ (2) [16-Oct-23 11:46 PM] higgsy#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1163699503556206684/20231016_200225.jpg?ex=6814f6de&is=6813a55e&hm=0a601171a0d00c6701a690b479c914ecf4f7a1d326e9e2930d2097db2618ccf8& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ [16-Oct-23 11:47 PM] higgsy#0000 My bases and where I might colonize next (in parens) [17-Oct-23 02:50 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I too have my map on the paper. Very convenient [17-Oct-23 10:03 AM] higgsy#0000 I'm having a consumables giveaway (courtesy of our beloved retirees) now that I have a new better empire plan. Oh, and apparently they are needed in fixed ratios, which would make managing them so much easier. [17-Oct-23 10:30 AM] higgsy#0000 I forgot what I bought and what was donated so in the interest of simplifying my ANT warehouse, I'm just giving stuff away until the numbers remaining are pretty and balanced. Like, 200 EXO, 200 PT, 400 KOM. Odd numbers are bad juju. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ป (2) [17-Oct-23 11:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 warehouse bloat is real [17-Oct-23 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 how am I now using 42k tons when it was just 30k tons a couple weeks ago [17-Oct-23 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 NOTHING LOOKS DIFFERENT [17-Oct-23 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 I sort by weight and nothing looks different [17-Oct-23 11:13 AM] churavis#0000 Sell more stuff [17-Oct-23 11:13 AM] fremen45#0000 I will take all of that stuff if itโ€™s still available? [17-Oct-23 11:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 I try to but I can't find what's in overstock ๐Ÿ˜ข [17-Oct-23 11:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 it's not in big enough overstock yet, I guess. In a month or two we'll see, haha [17-Oct-23 11:40 AM] higgsy#0000 It is still available. I'm just calculating and it will all be auctioned. [17-Oct-23 10:08 PM] higgsy#0000 I rue the day I mined random minerals that are hard to sell [22-Oct-23 02:32 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Hey, @higgsy. What's with that AL contract? I assume it is about https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1164789087958474762? [22-Oct-23 02:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Also, when to expect those 20 BDE on Nike? [22-Oct-23 05:45 PM] higgsy#0000 GAAAAHH! [22-Oct-23 05:46 PM] higgsy#0000 I'll fix it [23-Oct-23 04:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yo, 516 was the total amount of res on that auction. When split per recipient it was 129 ``` Auction on ANT for 516 AL@500.0 AIC/u results: MrSmith33 | VF33: 129 AL for a total of 64500.0 AIC Hernanduer | Kalleria: 129 AL for a total of 64500.0 AIC Neth_Havoc | ExoSpace: 129 AL for a total of 64500.0 AIC Paris_In_Springtime|SpringtimeSp: 129 AL for a total of 64500.0 AIC ``` [23-Oct-23 08:32 AM] higgsy#0000 Dammit [23-Oct-23 08:32 AM] higgsy#0000 Well, I have enough AL for all of you [23-Oct-23 08:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 too pricey for me [23-Oct-23 08:34 AM] higgsy#0000 Ok, how many do you need? [23-Oct-23 08:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 200 [23-Oct-23 08:34 AM] higgsy#0000 Ok [23-Oct-23 08:36 AM] higgsy#0000 Btw, I don't recommend sending lots of contacts out when you're sick, y'all. ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Oct-23 08:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Barely fit that ore ๐Ÿ˜† {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1166010337716346890/image.png?ex=6814cd3f&is=68137bbf&hm=fbaf4c1f13aba58a9c838808ae9e1651eaeff4d88e71bc5ce8312b9b1b6f1fee& {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ [23-Oct-23 09:27 AM] higgsy#0000 Side note: At work, we're renaming our teams after stars. My suggestion of Antares was rejected in favor of Betelgeuse. [23-Oct-23 09:28 AM] higgsy#0000 I am ok with this. [23-Oct-23 09:34 AM] churavis#0000 Just be careful not to say it three times in a row [23-Oct-23 10:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 star names are fun; I played some multiplayer game where you found a bunch of cities, and I named each of mine after a star. After 25 cities it was getting hard to find ones that didn't have stand-alone letters in the name [23-Oct-23 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 lord of ultima I think [24-Oct-23 07:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I think I should stop buying ores {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1166360165419843614/image.png?ex=6814c18d&is=6813700d&hm=c51d472b319470991d6c1f60e00b0b538e1c5718fb3de161562a219035610e3e& [24-Oct-23 08:19 AM] domicius#0000 Spending all your money on beer and 'ores? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [24-Oct-23 08:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 maybe for a little bit ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [24-Oct-23 03:16 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @xfeuerdrachenx It seems like your prices on Deimos LM are too low. Note that the price on LM is total price, not per item price {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [24-Oct-23 08:53 PM] exeler#0000 Nonsense, that's like 15 minutes worth of ALO at most {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [25-Oct-23 04:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @melon164 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1166676975348367361/image.png?ex=6814971a&is=6813459a&hm=5e1976c4d4b8b6d97f18b6421cf56a2f0ec060969c72b9c6d3bdd678e26d00ad& [25-Oct-23 05:13 AM] melon164#0000 That would be an embarassing way to take a rating hit ๐Ÿ˜ณ [25-Oct-23 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 so they connected 60 more stars in the outer reaches, curious which ones they are. I'll be able to take a look once they deploy to staging [25-Oct-23 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 and report here if any look exciting for us [25-Oct-23 09:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 rather, they made 60 more connections, so 120 more stars connected [25-Oct-23 10:00 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Nice. Hopefully the data on FIO will be updated to reflect this [25-Oct-23 04:57 PM] mrsmith33#0000 `FIM` price is getting too high [26-Oct-23 04:17 PM] mrsmith33#0000 That time when you mix price and quantity {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1167210333690155088/image.png?ex=68148d95&is=68133c15&hm=02826bd4ea2e0a6c0c146eba68f845ecc3f35cd3a5d09d92cb214ba0aa6e269e& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [26-Oct-23 04:22 PM] churavis#0000 I've done that before [29-Oct-23 08:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 Anyone making UTS and SUN, I need both for Nike when you get a chance. @exeler a way to counter a price in the orders seems like the best way. Like I don't care about the cost of these I just want them [29-Oct-23 10:14 AM] .zogii#0000 I have 360 SUN on Nike if you want it. [30-Oct-23 12:03 AM] exeler#0000 I've got up to 1100 SUN on ANT right now, and another 980 on its way from ANT. Send me a contract for however much you want [30-Oct-23 09:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 are you able to make some UTS? The market is tapped out [30-Oct-23 11:05 AM] exeler#0000 Unfortunately not right now, I don't have an FS anywhere [30-Oct-23 11:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 here's the comparison of the maps on the staging server (the right side) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [30-Oct-23 11:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1168589890443808798/comp.png?ex=6814f525&is=6813a3a5&hm=99ecdaee449726eeb83140ebcf1852593c2d13ba6c122d4f8fc9cbe98a4e7e2c& [30-Oct-23 11:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 I highlighted all the ones I could find - of interest, a connection between the YK and LE/LS sections and a new connection from KI-446 (Demeter) to KI-401 [30-Oct-23 11:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1168591851855556698/comp.png?ex=6814f6f8&is=6813a578&hm=226530352fe1c8c7f177eb266dc7ce73590d4b6ce1df40a494ce70ba2498b592& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [30-Oct-23 11:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 So, how many jumps from Ant to Demeter now? [30-Oct-23 11:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 cuts out 3 it looks like {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1168592977703215175/jump.png?ex=6814f805&is=6813a685&hm=0cf980d584723f9dafe50cc28f46c25f308916e694c38ec37b1609b1654fecd3& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ†’ (3) [30-Oct-23 11:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 here's the new Etherwind to Norwick, for anyone that might find that interesting {Reactions} โค๏ธ [30-Oct-23 11:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1168595040986222622/jump.png?ex=6814f9f1&is=6813a871&hm=9fa31e62fe58f21867a66506d990a3b0d712c1aa9d4e3b5a676db5b7c4fe0a52& [30-Oct-23 12:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 Harmonia to KW-602c is faster now too [30-Oct-23 12:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 by 10 parsecs [30-Oct-23 12:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 lastly, YK-005d is 12ps closer to Griff [30-Oct-23 12:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 ah nice work going through all that [30-Oct-23 12:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 looks like a ton of work ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Oct-23 12:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 too bad the in-game map is sooo hard to read [30-Oct-23 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 How many jumps from ANT->OS-099 now? It's 39 steps now (19 jumps) [30-Oct-23 12:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 eh I'm guessing it took like 5 jumps off at the most [30-Oct-23 12:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I actually didn't really see much good in the WR/MG sector, the branch to the south-east of ANT space [30-Oct-23 12:39 PM] pateirn#0000 I am hoping this is just the first pass. This seems very useful, but unless we can setup mini hubs with good stuff far away, it seems kinda irrelevant still. [30-Oct-23 12:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah OS-099 has some cheap planets but it's just so far away it's not worth it. [30-Oct-23 12:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I looked really hard for a way to rationalize it [30-Oct-23 12:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 but it sounds like they are going to add more incentives beyond just the new links [30-Oct-23 12:49 PM] higgsy#0000 What do people use AML for? [30-Oct-23 12:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 ZR, BE, TA, BOS, W [30-Oct-23 12:52 PM] mrsmith33#0000 just intermediate stuff [30-Oct-23 12:53 PM] pateirn#0000 That was my read too. Hand fixing stuff for this iteration. [30-Oct-23 12:54 PM] pateirn#0000 Have they talked about their universe reset policy? Are they gonna do it again before full release? [30-Oct-23 12:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 135ps -> 119ps {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Oct-23 12:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 yes, but only once they have a change that would radically break the current universe. Current top expectations for that are introduction of asteroids [30-Oct-23 12:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 minimum another 1.5 year, since we know their plan through next summer [30-Oct-23 12:57 PM] churavis#0000 In the last dev discussion they said that resets are a lot of work and that they wouldn't be doing one until they are forced to and only with a lot of prior warning [30-Oct-23 01:00 PM] pateirn#0000 That makes perfect sense. Sounds pretty fun since I started so "late", but I am sure that would shed a pretty decent chunk of the player base too [30-Oct-23 01:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 lots of people have mentioned coming back then too, so I wouldn't be so certain ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [30-Oct-23 01:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think they'd gain more than they'd lose [30-Oct-23 01:01 PM] pateirn#0000 I can certainly see both sides. Especially if they do some marketing with a reset too [30-Oct-23 01:02 PM] churavis#0000 If the game is changing enough to require a reset, they would certainly get a bunch of inactive players back who only left because they ran out of new things to do {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [30-Oct-23 03:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 wow 3 temperate planets and 1 hot and 1 cold, what a crazy system [30-Oct-23 03:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 hopefully they link it with OS-476 at least [30-Oct-23 03:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 and AU-709 to GM-037 would be another big cut, it would probably knock it down to ~2d travel time [30-Oct-23 03:16 PM] melon164#0000 OS-099 looks amazing... except that there's nothing to do there [30-Oct-23 03:18 PM] melon164#0000 They're not even fertile [30-Oct-23 03:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 ohh [30-Oct-23 03:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 well that's a bit of a damper [30-Oct-23 03:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, but 3 different COGCs in the same system could be fun. [30-Oct-23 03:21 PM] melon164#0000 You could bring water in from OS-476d and do HYF on one I guess [30-Oct-23 03:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-10-30_15-21-53.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-10-30_15-21-53.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/gZTMqBoo2R870mlf3KnWiLozDNOyMr42mpUs5i-DTJk/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-10-30_15-21-53.png [30-Oct-23 03:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 GM-498 has liquid water down there [30-Oct-23 03:22 PM] melon164#0000 That's miles [30-Oct-23 03:22 PM] melon164#0000 Nearest decent H source is even further [30-Oct-23 03:23 PM] melon164#0000 (NJ-215) [30-Oct-23 03:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think post change it's several fewer jumps, but yeah, it is. [30-Oct-23 03:24 PM] melon164#0000 If there was a decent H gas giant you could do something [30-Oct-23 03:24 PM] melon164#0000 NR chain maybe [30-Oct-23 03:25 PM] melon164#0000 There's decent HAL down there [30-Oct-23 03:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah EPO/NR was a thought of mine too. But yeah, everywhere needs H2O/C to really get anything done [30-Oct-23 03:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 I do believe it's the only system in game with 3 habitable planets though [30-Oct-23 03:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 I should update my algorithm to find clusters of resources. at the time I was just looking at water for HYF planets [30-Oct-23 03:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah it's a link between OS-099 and OS-476, so that cuts GM-498 down to only 4 jumps [30-Oct-23 03:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 GM-498a is HSE+TSH though, oof [30-Oct-23 03:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 also they connected GM-212 with GM-332 [30-Oct-23 03:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 those are the two red circles I have down there [30-Oct-23 04:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 maybe if I can get 4 free permits I can settle the 3 planets in OS-099 and the water planet in GM-498 ๐Ÿ˜† [31-Oct-23 08:37 AM] mrsmith33#0000 got 12 month pro {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (2) [31-Oct-23 08:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah there's a 13% off code right now PSLISNOTADRINK {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [31-Oct-23 08:37 PM] higgsy#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1169087845546340423/tempFileForShare_20231031-213735.jpg?ex=6814caa6&is=68137926&hm=1350e60bac3c30421546189d49f09130daf747f5fa0caf1c9ac421f6b2ec875a& [01-Nov-23 03:12 AM] exeler#0000 I added a new feature to the bot. Now it has a `shipping-offer` command that helps handle coordinating shipping contracts. The command lets you say "I have X weight and Y volume going from A to B" and then helps keep track of how much space is left. The bot will calculate the weight/volume of the items other people add to the shipment and it'll reject attempts to overfill the ship with a message that tells you exactly how many items would fit. Optionally, you can set a price per t/m (whichever is higher, it defaults to 10 AIC) and a time you intended to depart (set in minutes until departure like a countdown). The bot will calculate prices and display a cool countdown timer (if you set a duration) For an example I put an offer in #shipping : https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/923700039497424967/1169185991525933136 (yes, it's a real offer) As usual, let me know if you have any questions or feedback. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿ›ณ๏ธ (2) [01-Nov-23 10:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 who has an EDM? I want to buy 2 dozen RAD [01-Nov-23 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 looks like @neth_havoc and @churavis ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Nov-23 10:09 AM] melon164#0000 Got loads on Heph {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1169292034230726676/image.png?ex=6814e011&is=68138e91&hm=6fa38d631d0d6fea60bd586e5b561bb54e59ac92f4e82f9e58d2dc88bb4fe978& [01-Nov-23 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 how much per? [01-Nov-23 10:11 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ 5k? [01-Nov-23 10:11 AM] melon164#0000 unless there's a lower corp price already, in which case that [01-Nov-23 10:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 there's not ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [01-Nov-23 10:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 also I updated the base section of the prices sheet and overwrote some unused planets with Electronica and YK-005d [01-Nov-23 10:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 I got rid of some of the people with funny colors since they're now retired - moved them to the retired sheet. Should only be people that are still in corp on the sheet now (though some are inactive too ๐Ÿ˜ด ) [01-Nov-23 10:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 the Prices sheet probably needs something similar done [01-Nov-23 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ahhh, the "Planets" sheet... I could see that being very useful early-universe to coordinate production, but maybe we don't need that one anymore. [01-Nov-23 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah I just like it to see what others are doing ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Nov-23 10:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 Well mine is now a bit more up to date, cause it was a year behind ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Nov-23 05:44 PM] Deleted User#0000 new logo idea? XD {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1169406712990683136/8-dwlJZiF7aIZiX04.png?ex=6814a21e&is=6813509e&hm=0e21bef831c7f9e3ee1f3edec7d8489a1f4fbb7ca02c79f7b0b78597b71f33ec& [01-Nov-23 05:46 PM] Deleted User#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1169407060887220354/8-jgttACALymkap6g.png?ex=6814a271&is=681350f1&hm=dd84a9823aa76960771006ef16eba09eb195316aa94488792f3091e89c0aafa5& [01-Nov-23 06:47 PM] churavis#0000 Cool but way too complicated for a small logo [01-Nov-23 09:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Good extra art for the Official OOG Corporation web page ๐Ÿ˜‰ [01-Nov-23 09:50 PM] exeler#0000 Ooh, an official webpage. who, what, when, where and why? [01-Nov-23 09:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Who = not me ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Nov-23 09:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've ben kicking around the idea, as a flashy way to show off to the community. FIO has a ton of integration options, none of it seems very heavily used, although I guess there are some corps that use the shared data functions. [01-Nov-23 09:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Even if it was just simple stuff like a live roster of the corp, it would be neat to see it on a web page. I'll leave the discord bot integration ideas to you [01-Nov-23 09:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 but if I got more serious about my insurance offering, I could post it there [01-Nov-23 09:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 or if we started selling completed ships again in some capacity [01-Nov-23 09:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's an open question: what does the webpage do better than a shared google doc? I think the main thing is just showing off the corp in a fancy way [01-Nov-23 09:55 PM] exeler#0000 Related to the ship idea, I had an idea of adding on to the bot's order fearture to help with managing building ships. So we could take orders internally and externally and have the benefits of a managed queue without turning that management into someone's second full time job [01-Nov-23 09:56 PM] exeler#0000 A webpage where we could configure the offers, take orders, and view the queue could be handy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [01-Nov-23 09:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 If individuals could list their stock, the bot/page could determine if a whole ship can be assembled. People need to do the extra work to keep updating their stock numbers though (if they add more items or sell some outside the bot) [01-Nov-23 09:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 the tough part is wondering... does anyone have this engine? or a different engine that I'd be fine with? etc [01-Nov-23 10:10 PM] exeler#0000 Considering I hear complaints about people trying to sell engines often, giving someone a tool to advertise their stock and get it sold easier seems like it might have some benefit {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [02-Nov-23 02:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 @melon164 you got those RADs? contract's still open ๐Ÿ˜‰ [02-Nov-23 02:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh I didn't realize you said Heph ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [03-Nov-23 09:43 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Doing a proper diagram [03-Nov-23 09:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1170011023214923926/map.png?ex=6814daad&is=6813892d&hm=ebfc3b14fc8098b2ee320633985c3f44cbad955626a29852d90e5365c66247c2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ ๐Ÿคฉ [03-Nov-23 10:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 ooh nice [03-Nov-23 11:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1170041542682095676/map.png?ex=6814f71a&is=6813a59a&hm=569f90b0656a4e3ca192b08f51a5e009607a61970b6ae2dce8efa0bb31ee5fc6& [03-Nov-23 11:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 green lines for future connections {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Nov-23 01:55 PM] mrsmith33#0000 WIP [03-Nov-23 10:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 There's two new ones actually, Norwick connects to 024 as well {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [04-Nov-23 12:26 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1170413781571084429/Map.png?ex=68150046&is=6813aec6&hm=b48f87068f1ca7aae7083346882d5e1b82faad1e8f23037ca818ab4309d1fcb9& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ (2) [04-Nov-23 02:38 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Graphvis gives pretty meh result on system graph [04-Nov-23 07:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 The plots I made were very disappointing until I switched to graph kamada kawai layout algorithm [04-Nov-23 07:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 it is avaliable in graphviz as `layout_kamada_kawai` [07-Nov-23 06:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @exeler Getting when clicking `Finish` {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1171429053375459328/image.png?ex=6814bd52&is=68136bd2&hm=5b96f9750e40d9b96f5624294e85b343272d9636364318175dd7406ff679c372& {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [08-Nov-23 06:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 What do the different colours mean? [09-Nov-23 12:21 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Different sectors [09-Nov-23 12:22 AM] mrsmith33#0000 And red lines are new connections, that will be added soon [10-Nov-23 09:14 AM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hey does anybody know, if the planet Bonus Elextronics and the Fraction Bonus ( in my case also Electronics) accumulates? [10-Nov-23 09:17 AM] melon164#0000 It does [10-Nov-23 09:18 AM] churavis#0000 The COGC, faction bonus and expert bonuses all compound. For example, I get 111% extra faction bonus with only 1 extra permit but have 177% efficiency on Phobos instead of the 160% you would get with just COGC and full experts combined. [10-Nov-23 09:18 AM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 cool thanks Churavis {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-23 12:43 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hey Just wanna say that I'm really happy that I'm here with all of you! Makes a real difference acting with all of ya as a Team! Thanks for everything! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค (4) โค๏ธ (2) [14-Nov-23 12:47 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Especially thanks to Archiel, who gave me the oppurtunity to be a part of the corp. ! Cheers ! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [17-Nov-23 02:32 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey? Anyone know the going "corp rate" for LST? [17-Nov-23 02:35 PM] churavis#0000 I've been thinking that with the orders and auction systems in place it might be useful to have a list of standard corp pricing on the shared sheet {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [17-Nov-23 02:36 PM] mrsmith33#0000 The bot could even use corp price by default, once you enter the item name, if you don't specify it {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Nov-23 02:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 at least we could do a pinned comment or something, seems more accessible than the sheet on a moment's notice [17-Nov-23 02:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have a separate browser window with PRUN stuff {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1175173959948451961/image.png?ex=68148549&is=681333c9&hm=fdf6e18099eba5dfe3ef4d35b46fea43c867847aa0831a5d89d7d47119d313ba& [17-Nov-23 02:41 PM] churavis#0000 For every single material? [17-Nov-23 02:42 PM] mrsmith33#0000 so price sheet is always one click away for me [17-Nov-23 02:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 just a big list that's easily ctrl + f [17-Nov-23 02:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 maybe not every single mat, or we could load in data from the sheet [17-Nov-23 02:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 just pin the link to the sheet [17-Nov-23 02:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 or add it to channel description [17-Nov-23 02:53 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Hi Guys Does anybody know how I can trade currencies? [17-Nov-23 02:54 PM] churavis#0000 You can use the FX markets if you don't mind paying fees, buy and sell goods between markets or just go to the #bank-of-oog [17-Nov-23 03:22 PM] zipatsu#0000 I auction off a bunch of it at 55/u once a month or so โœŒ๏ธ [17-Nov-23 03:22 PM] emperyan11#0000 I will keep my eyes open and thanks for responding to my Order {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [17-Nov-23 03:24 PM] emperyan11#0000 Usually there's a bunch in the LM and today? Crickets and dust bunnies [17-Nov-23 03:24 PM] zipatsu#0000 When you need it most, it's gone ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Nov-23 03:25 PM] emperyan11#0000 Right? [17-Nov-23 03:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's how I feel about GL right now ๐Ÿ˜ด [17-Nov-23 03:49 PM] mrsmith33#0000 What are you using it for? [17-Nov-23 03:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 DIS LTA andBTA [17-Nov-23 03:50 PM] churavis#0000 I'll be doing a GL auction in a few days when I can get a ship out to uWU-070a {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [17-Nov-23 03:50 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have almost 500 on Deimos, hehe [17-Nov-23 03:53 PM] emperyan11#0000 I'll take your glass, lol [17-Nov-23 04:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe we need more GFs in the corp. I'm good for now but I was just buying some [17-Nov-23 05:00 PM] churavis#0000 uWU-070a was made for GFs if anyone wants to build a base just for glass or silicon products [17-Nov-23 05:14 PM] exeler#0000 I've wanted to implement this for a while, but discord actually doesn't support dynamic UIs like this. There's two potential work arounds that I've thought of. 1) Make the price per item optional, if not specified the price defaults to some value. Could be corp rate, or some average value calculated from somewhere (FIO CX data maybe? Could also read from past auctions/orders, or even let people configure the defaults themselves). Downside is that you'd have to know beforehand what items the bot doesn't have defaults for and then remember to set those explicitly. 2) Remove the price option from the command arguments and use a modal (the pop up window that asks for data) instead. Same deal here, if the bot has enough info to put a sane default, you don't get the model prompt. This could also apply for options like location (read from channel name?) or currency (configurable by server/channel?). Downside here is that there's no way to override the default unless the modals are always displayed, but prefilled out for you. Or some hybrid of the two, most command options could be made optional, then modals prompt for anything the bot doesn't have a default for. This way you could still override defaults, but skip the modals if you're happy with accepting defaults. The fundamental problem is that the bot has no way to interact with the clients (us typing in commands) while the command parameters are being filled out. It can dynamically generate modals based on data put into the command (or a modal, the bot can chain modal responses, but I think getting multiple pop ups for a single command is annoying). [17-Nov-23 05:50 PM] churavis#0000 It's not that hard for people to look up a list of prices on the shared sheet [17-Nov-23 06:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think a lot of people search the price sheet, and if someone doesn't have a price listed, they just take someone else's price. That's what I ask people to do for me because I make more stuff than I can list now [17-Nov-23 06:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 (and they're all at ANT) [17-Nov-23 06:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 An official list would be nice in a lot of ways, but also I don't want people to push people too hard to sell at prices they haven't come up with themselves [17-Nov-23 06:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am very very lazy figuring out my own prices and if someone trusts me, they might get bit ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Nov-23 11:25 PM] exeler#0000 I'm only a little bit cramped on Deimos ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1175305642106441728/image.png?ex=6814ffed&is=6813ae6d&hm=421cf4e0c9a7fa71768b3a48d54b504bbe8f67d96077b64598570da9af066162& [18-Nov-23 06:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 1 or two EXT? `2xHB1 8xHB2 2xSTO 2xEXT 10xGF` is looking good [18-Nov-23 08:19 AM] churavis#0000 I've got 3 EXT, 3 SME and 8 GF because I wanted to export some SIO and SI as well. [18-Nov-23 08:20 AM] churavis#0000 I'm sure you won't need 2 STO, The planet does have a warehouse and GF products are lightweight [18-Nov-23 08:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 2 HBB, 2 HB1, 5 HB2, 1 STO, 4 EXT, 8 GF, 2 SME is pretty space efficient (198 area) [18-Nov-23 09:13 AM] churavis#0000 Is that going to produce too much SIO for you? It goes up and down in price all the time. [18-Nov-23 09:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I guess I don't need that much for MCG [18-Nov-23 09:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is also TAI to be mined there. No idea how much I will need [18-Nov-23 09:16 AM] churavis#0000 With just my 3 and using quite a bit for SI and GL I still have plenty extra for the corp [18-Nov-23 09:17 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Are you doing NA+SIO recipe? [18-Nov-23 09:18 AM] churavis#0000 Yes, I don't have enough extra SCA capacity to do the SEN recipe [18-Nov-23 09:19 AM] mrsmith33#0000 SI recipe that uses FLX is pretty hungry [18-Nov-23 09:20 AM] mrsmith33#0000 on the other hand I will also do RG and NG there [18-Nov-23 09:20 AM] churavis#0000 Yeah, I don't bring out FLX either, C and O are enough of a bother [18-Nov-23 03:09 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Anyone seen the price of PE & OVE? [18-Nov-23 03:09 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 If you got stockpiles, now is the time to sell. [18-Nov-23 03:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I don't see it on ANT [18-Nov-23 04:49 PM] churavis#0000 PE has been expensive for a while [19-Nov-23 08:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh no.. I just finished my HQ upgrade a few days ago [19-Nov-23 08:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 and now I got a faction contract for one [19-Nov-23 08:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-19_08-41-07.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-19_08-41-07.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/47PF3HVacF3dgfq9wBBu3dfqEL34St3mLd8ExLX22dg/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-19_08-41-07.png [19-Nov-23 11:51 AM] churavis#0000 You've got 7 plus 2 days to upgrade again [19-Nov-23 11:51 AM] churavis#0000 You can't make hundreds of Afabs in 9 days? [19-Nov-23 01:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can make like... 50 afabs [19-Nov-23 01:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 If I buy them on the CX I will have to leave ANT space [19-Nov-23 02:55 PM] allocater#0000 you need more a-fabs? I restocked the CX [19-Nov-23 03:18 PM] domicius#0000 5 points? Tasty! [20-Nov-23 12:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 ouch PE is almost out on CX [20-Nov-23 12:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 also weirdness with KOM too [20-Nov-23 12:37 PM] churavis#0000 You can fit a lot of BMP on SE-866e [20-Nov-23 01:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 but I need my COT makers for MED kits ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [20-Nov-23 01:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've got an extra 40 COT on Griff if you want [20-Nov-23 10:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 I make plenty, just that's what I use 866e for [20-Nov-23 10:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 thanks though [21-Nov-23 11:03 AM] emperyan11#0000 Anybody know how the "Repeating" parameter works on Contracts? i.e. can I make a repeating "Buy Commodity" contract? [21-Nov-23 11:05 AM] mrsmith33#0000 It doesn't look to be clickable [21-Nov-23 11:05 AM] emperyan11#0000 Yeah, just making sure it's wasn't me ๐Ÿคฃ [21-Nov-23 11:06 AM] emperyan11#0000 Perhaps not implemented yet? [21-Nov-23 11:26 AM] melon164#0000 Dev trolling ๐Ÿ˜ [21-Nov-23 11:29 AM] emperyan11#0000 Lol. Probably polling to see how many of us click on it to see if it's worth developing [22-Nov-23 03:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 HQ level 22 soon, once I get these LOG from ANT to Nike. Stuck deciding between a SE-648b PG plant or Nemesis for a HER farm to make FIMs [22-Nov-23 03:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 or A1a to make a lot more software on Phobos, though not sure what to use it on... [22-Nov-23 04:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I will have 3 open permits shortly. I am actually considering heading out towards those very far away planets we discussed. Although I'm not sure if I should wait for further buffs from the devs [22-Nov-23 04:06 PM] churavis#0000 What buffs are we expecting? [22-Nov-23 04:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think he just means the paths so far [22-Nov-23 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 So far the new paths, but I was getting an impression they might add more resources further out- in this universe [22-Nov-23 04:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah I've been hoping we'll hear something soon [22-Nov-23 04:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oct 25th: `Another thing I did, and that we will also test pretty soon, was adding around 60 new FTL connections to the map for "under-connected" stars, especially in the outer regions of the universe. This is a first small step in the greater context of map and expansion changes we want to make based on the feedback we collected in the forums recently.` [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 release is in Jan yeah? [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 so should be more by then I hope [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] churavis#0000 Do you think those connections will make it easier to get to the carbon trio system? [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 I documented the changes a few weeks ago [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 which trio? [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 OS-099? [22-Nov-23 04:16 PM] churavis#0000 the trio of planets for producing carbon [22-Nov-23 04:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 OS-099 is the only triple "habitable" one, but doesn't have water. Post-change GM-498 (which does have water) is 4 jumps away [22-Nov-23 04:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/854795108720443395/1168589739289481357 [22-Nov-23 06:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Been an expensive week! http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-22_18-07-05.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-22_18-07-05.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IZEUCbl6vZYUqaL5l09wbZ6_oy4KyEbDXhwqrd-hhw4/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-11-22_18-07-05.png [22-Nov-23 08:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 Your sales are crazy, my consumption is 1mil higher than yours too [22-Nov-23 08:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1177069220224315462/image.png?ex=6814d2e2&is=68138162&hm=ac3d1d8a9c8141768abe97ad2fb958d147233ed5f2d5d16971168b0f945e2748& [23-Nov-23 05:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wish there was a way to tell what I am selling. Every once in a while I try to sort through my CXOS but itโ€™s really tough to tell where most of that comes from. I imagine itโ€™s mostly contracts rather than the CX {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [25-Nov-23 10:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah well it looks like Harmonia is now in "Antares IV" [25-Nov-23 10:53 PM] churavis#0000 People are so uncreative [26-Nov-23 08:47 AM] hernanduer#0000 Bad name {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [27-Nov-23 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 seems universe is low on TSH [27-Nov-23 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 not that they're used too much but seems even lower than usual [27-Nov-23 02:00 PM] churavis#0000 TSH competes with Afabs for PP4 capacity [27-Nov-23 02:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, think that should give them a good amount of extra markup [29-Nov-23 08:45 AM] hernanduer#0000 oh the map changes are out [29-Nov-23 08:45 AM] hernanduer#0000 nice [29-Nov-23 08:52 AM] churavis#0000 Is that previous flow chart still accurate or does it need to be updated? [29-Nov-23 08:55 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is a full list of new map connections [here](https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/maintenance-release-2023-02/6117/5) {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/maintenance-release-2023-02/6117/5 Maintenance Release 2023.02 Not beautiful, but a list ๐Ÿ˜ƒ OT 364, 133 627, 680 WC 803, 788 803, 299 QV 257, 164 TD 260, 331 ZK 768, 780 780, 602 PG 973, 710 IZ 054, 437 YA 997, 462 GC 474, 032 XV 396, 374 UY 408, 701 701, 799 UP 305, 170 305, 102 AN 240, 371 VI 429, 270 EX 326, 925 389, 925 XS 072, 804 EZ 190, 176 QQ 033, 082 XH 4... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [29-Nov-23 08:56 AM] churavis#0000 Yes, but are they all on the flow chart, at least for Antares? [29-Nov-23 08:56 AM] churavis#0000 More importantly, what are their implications? do they make any new planets or regions viable that weren't before? [29-Nov-23 08:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Demeter is certainly closer now [29-Nov-23 08:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Also YK-024 is adjacent to Norwick [29-Nov-23 09:08 AM] mrsmith33#0000 66 new connections {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1179438748203757700/new_connections.txt?ex=6814dfee&is=68138e6e&hm=7978a2e68919c14024dfb495c481fbd194abccb600536dacdd4bcb735bcdf284& [29-Nov-23 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 you can get from Norwick to Etherwind a lot faster, and ANT to Demeter (since KI-401 now connects to Demeter system) [29-Nov-23 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 or Harmonia to 602c [29-Nov-23 09:11 AM] hernanduer#0000 then there's the connections going down to OS-099, I know Archiel will be happy to see that already {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [29-Nov-23 09:13 AM] churavis#0000 The Etherwind to Norwick route is one I'll be using so that's nice [29-Nov-23 09:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 I will try to do another map with my python script but probably won't happen today while I'm at work {Reactions} ๐Ÿ [29-Nov-23 09:58 AM] higgsy#0000 Y'all don't play Prun at work? ๐Ÿคซ [29-Nov-23 09:59 AM] churavis#0000 I play Prun when work doesn't give me enough to do [29-Nov-23 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 I specifically go into the office a couple days a week to avoid distractions [29-Nov-23 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 just results in me talking to coworkers instead [29-Nov-23 10:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I missed at least two new connections on Figma [map](https://www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/Map?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=PvSp62AxVAP73XQk-1) Added them now {Embed} https://www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/Map?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=PvSp62AxVAP73XQk-1 Map Created with FigJam https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/JWT1xPplFwMk0pZqB4WOs1HT5Fy_CffIRWzgbNEOcXQ/%3Fver%3Dthumbnails%2F56226ad6-0942-4e4c-9ba2-5d399ca2f83b/https/www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/thumbnail {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ [29-Nov-23 10:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's so clean and pretty! ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Nov-23 02:49 PM] higgsy#0000 I play Prun when the meetings get boring. [29-Nov-23 03:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 So you play during every meeting for the duration of the entire meeting? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [30-Nov-23 05:03 PM] domicius#0000 Is anyone else having trouble logging into FIO? [30-Nov-23 07:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah itโ€™s been up and down a lot lately. They are working on it [02-Dec-23 03:41 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Someone bought most of HAL on ANT, including my stash ๐Ÿ˜† [02-Dec-23 04:25 AM] domicius#0000 Yeah it's hard to find [02-Dec-23 04:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm mining my own, so it is not a big deal [02-Dec-23 10:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 I bought some in-corp a while ago at 220, and I have 600 to spare on ANT if anyone runs low [02-Dec-23 12:00 PM] exeler#0000 Yesterday I put an order on the CX for 1000@400/u and was sad when only like 200 of it got bought ๐Ÿ˜ข [03-Dec-23 04:10 AM] mrsmith33#0000 How to earn 2M in one sell {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1180813377665245255/image.png?ex=68149a27&is=681348a7&hm=0279e65d4768ae66753cc5dd6d5c5155cde0127b3d6a678f2d3370f42284a7ee& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [03-Dec-23 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 I grabbed about 1mil worth from Hortus, can't believe there's not more arbitrage [03-Dec-23 08:40 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm about to do the same thing from Benten [04-Dec-23 10:25 AM] rune_242#0000 is anybody else annoyed that there stuck on the HQ upgrades? [04-Dec-23 10:25 AM] rune_242#0000 because the upgrades are more then 20 MIL [04-Dec-23 10:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yea, it is the main bottleneck in the game [04-Dec-23 10:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 hence why I'm only doing 500 area bases [04-Dec-23 10:28 AM] rune_242#0000 me too but still [04-Dec-23 10:28 AM] rune_242#0000 it seems such a pain in the ass to make a second account and that is also against the rules [04-Dec-23 10:28 AM] rune_242#0000 and also ships are expensive [04-Dec-23 10:29 AM] mrsmith33#0000 but fortunately their price is not increasing with each ship [04-Dec-23 10:29 AM] rune_242#0000 that would really suck [04-Dec-23 10:30 AM] mrsmith33#0000 With flat base price it would be feasible to populate distant planets [04-Dec-23 10:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 it provides a good challenge I guess [04-Dec-23 10:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 FireFreak is at level 39 and needs 700+ ABH lol [04-Dec-23 10:31 AM] rune_242#0000 dammm [04-Dec-23 10:32 AM] rune_242#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1181271797572845568/image.png?ex=6814f397&is=6813a217&hm=0ea407ea7f9721e8d43c394e7a80a032554ea35fa11929e8f3de00af454f88c7& [04-Dec-23 10:32 AM] rune_242#0000 but how? [04-Dec-23 10:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 meticulous planning and compounding [04-Dec-23 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 he probably has 2 bases making the afabs just for himself [04-Dec-23 10:33 AM] rune_242#0000 and bases making ships [04-Dec-23 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 it's good money when they sell, but the volume really isn't high [04-Dec-23 11:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 looking at the afab leaderboards... he's making 276 ABH a week, 184 ADE, 184 ASE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [04-Dec-23 11:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 his entire empire is keyed to just making his empire bigger, lol [04-Dec-23 11:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 Only 28 bases for him though [04-Dec-23 11:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 he's mentioned that several are 750+ area [04-Dec-23 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 makes sense if you have run out of steam for new bases, just pump up the existing ones [04-Dec-23 05:48 PM] higgsy#0000 Nice. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1181381513296748705/tempFileForShare_20231204-154703.jpg?ex=6814b105&is=68135f85&hm=cf5a955c096463935c6f7352baf69d1d087c418493bff2f57a85c0eeef5660b8& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [04-Dec-23 06:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 ooh 20! nice [06-Dec-23 08:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 building ships is a sign of the devil! [06-Dec-23 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 you're gonna tell me it's just "coincidence" that exactly 666 TI fits into a WCB? {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [06-Dec-23 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 lies! [06-Dec-23 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Dec-23 09:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've sent a discord invite to a new prospective member named Afka. Brand new to the game but seems like they could be a good fit. Their first base is on Prom, but planning future ones in ANT [06-Dec-23 09:39 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Joined the server. [06-Dec-23 09:41 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Hello! It's good to be here! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [06-Dec-23 09:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Afka! [06-Dec-23 09:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Take a look at the info in the #welcome channel and the #rules-faq and let us know if you have any questions! {Reactions} โœ… [06-Dec-23 09:41 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Thank you! I'll take care of that now. [06-Dec-23 11:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 Aloha [06-Dec-23 11:46 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Aloha, Hernanduer. [07-Dec-23 03:24 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 I am working with a friend to create a vertical in ANT by partnering with his agriculture buildings. I'm currently leaning toward C or RAT production and would like to tap the knowledge here. Is one or the other more needed by OOGA? Is there a different product I should consider for a vertical with a farmer that could better meet needs in ANT? My default would be to build on Harmonia next to him. But I would like to know if there are agricultural refinement-focused planets that would be better suited. [07-Dec-23 04:36 PM] churavis#0000 We have Norwick right next to Harmonia as an FP planet and Nascent is a resource extraction planet we use for burning C as well as mining ALO. Fertile planets are scarce so it's best to use them exclusively for farms. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [07-Dec-23 05:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, either RAT or C are good starting points for you and your friend. Both are very liquid and will sell quickly on the CX or in the corp [07-Dec-23 05:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you make your own C a next natural step after that would be either smelting or plastics [07-Dec-23 05:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 And if you are doing food production, a common next step after RATs is FIM. Growing HER on the farms using DDT is a bit more complicated but has good profits [07-Dec-23 06:19 PM] zipatsu#0000 Welcome! โœŒ๏ธ [07-Dec-23 10:07 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Thank you, @zipatsu ! [07-Dec-23 10:09 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Thank you both for the advice; much appreciated. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Dec-23 04:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 Oooo we're up to my 36.6 limit water order [08-Dec-23 05:10 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 What does that mean exactly? [08-Dec-23 06:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 water prices on the rise! [08-Dec-23 06:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_18-03-03.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_18-03-03.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FpV2YD0ovpna8gLlT_pBIAoz-Jt3bR3eJIygNugRXyE/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_18-03-03.png [08-Dec-23 06:07 PM] churavis#0000 They're on the rise on every CX so the prices aren't going away any time soon [08-Dec-23 07:34 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Nice; any idea why the water prices are going up? [08-Dec-23 07:55 PM] draconisdomini#0000 A bunch of prices have been spiking lately [08-Dec-23 07:55 PM] draconisdomini#0000 TRU has doubled in the last couple of days [08-Dec-23 07:56 PM] draconisdomini#0000 SIO is coming back down again, but had tripled from its previous long-term position [08-Dec-23 07:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 FLX & REP up too. [08-Dec-23 07:59 PM] draconisdomini#0000 H is still way up [08-Dec-23 07:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 KOM is at 800 now as a baseline [08-Dec-23 08:01 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Could be because of new people joining. Deimos is now 24 bases over filled [08-Dec-23 08:05 PM] tuffyless#0000 I saw 425 or so connected the other day; seemed kinda high, which was kewl. [08-Dec-23 08:05 PM] tuffyless#0000 HMS way up too [08-Dec-23 08:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Or @dehzhas is buying all the H2O on the CX to make her DW empire ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Dec-23 08:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh check it out: [08-Dec-23 08:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_20-26-07.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_20-26-07.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/r1rNSc1cAU0xc-jR8v237-CWSIvEGvYCqxM8GwvZzAA/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-08_20-26-07.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’น [08-Dec-23 08:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 It was locked at 30 for a really long time, not sure who had that sell order [08-Dec-23 08:28 PM] dehzhas#0000 Iโ€™m not sure Iโ€™m buying that much water to drive the price up. I produce like half of what I use or more. [09-Dec-23 01:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 @zipatsu had like 250k H2O up, it held the price down for a few weeks [09-Dec-23 01:21 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, I keep shipping it to ANT to keep the price at 25/u but recently the demand's somehow managed to overtake my supply so it gets bought up fairly quick at 25 now ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Dec-23 01:21 PM] zipatsu#0000 It held steady for a fairly long time โœŒ๏ธ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1183126347493671013/image.png?ex=68151b46&is=6813c9c6&hm=e24f538cb0ea535bda94229afd0d0f05a74e495d67d8efc4b9c16f80a8c1e334& [09-Dec-23 01:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah it was nice to actually see it stable for once [09-Dec-23 01:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 big volume uptick in the last 1.5 weeks [09-Dec-23 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Now that I've been playing so long, I feel like we need 1 year and 2 year price charts [09-Dec-23 03:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 but yeah the volume change since late october has been pretty significant [09-Dec-23 03:33 PM] dehzhas#0000 Ok, maybe that was me [09-Dec-23 03:33 PM] dehzhas#0000 Not only me, but I probably contributed [09-Dec-23 03:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 90k DW in the last week means 120k H2O, right? Total volume on the CX is something like 25-30k H2O a day [09-Dec-23 03:51 PM] dehzhas#0000 I probably only average 2-4k a day, but I switched to mostly direct contracts when the 25/u ran out. [09-Dec-23 03:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh? Am I misunderstanding the LEAD board numbers? [09-Dec-23 03:56 PM] dehzhas#0000 I think I did math wrong [09-Dec-23 03:56 PM] dehzhas#0000 I use water for DW and HYF [09-Dec-23 04:17 PM] dehzhas#0000 I'm short about 32k on producing H2O for my DW. MAI production uses another 6.6k, VEG is 10.6k, so I buy roughly 50k/week or about 7k/day. Some I buy off CX, but a lot I was buying on CX. If @archielvahr is right and CX is 25-30k/day, I consume probably 20-25% of the market on ANT [09-Dec-23 04:17 PM] dehzhas#0000 So, yeah, might be me running the supply out [09-Dec-23 05:37 PM] exeler#0000 I mean, we went from "MHL is hard to sell" to "Who has MHL? we all need MHL". Not surprising the H2O marker noticed a large volume uptick [09-Dec-23 07:29 PM] higgsy#0000 I mean, the new HYF hub near ISA we're building could be a factor [09-Dec-23 09:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think it only has 4 bases right now so the whole planet is consuming like 4500 H2O/day [11-Dec-23 08:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 Joined the server. [11-Dec-23 08:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome Sidepipe! Sidepipe is a friend of Afka [11-Dec-23 08:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll copy paste the thing: Take a look at the info in the #welcome channel and the #rules-faq and let us know if you have any questions! [11-Dec-23 08:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 Hi! Thanks for the invite, will read both ๐Ÿ™‚ [11-Dec-23 09:08 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Welcome, @sidepipe . [11-Dec-23 09:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 Fancy seeing you here ๐Ÿ˜‰ [13-Dec-23 06:17 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0VLs81Dj6sgvto1y44CfjTm77Koj54MBEutx9cbKusc/https/media.tenor.com/SpXWQo0Mq7EAAAAe/welcome-michael-scott.png [14-Dec-23 08:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 @cleavingambiguity you're past your intoduction period, would you like to continue and receive a full invite? [14-Dec-23 09:44 AM] cleavingambiguity#0000 Hi Hernanduer. I would like to join the corp as a full member. Let me know if you need anything from me to move forward. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [16-Dec-23 10:26 PM] exeler#0000 Yo, this is a new one for me {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1185800170412179546/image.png?ex=6814f237&is=6813a0b7&hm=74346ab7b88a64e8aae609784945efea6fda69fd06497595d78c364e24e742bd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [17-Dec-23 03:08 AM] neth_havoc#0000 I was also surprised, I had the same contract some days ago. [17-Dec-23 08:44 AM] churavis#0000 Boy, I never get the fun contracts [17-Dec-23 11:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 ahh I only get the 2 point ones it seems ๐Ÿ˜ญ [17-Dec-23 11:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 @exeler hey you got any OFF? I'm out on Nike [17-Dec-23 11:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 and I don't feel like paying the highest margins on a BMP product to buy off the CX right now ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Dec-23 10:16 AM] allocater#0000 I'll be shutting down to basic over the holidays, should be back on the 12th, but might still accept contracts from time to time. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) [18-Dec-23 10:48 AM] domicius#0000 Ok [18-Dec-23 10:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 Related, they did hint there would be a subscription discount code soemtime during the holidays [18-Dec-23 09:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 the new PPMG compact mode is so nice [18-Dec-23 09:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-18_21-19-04.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-18_21-19-04.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zvvVqA3uLZ4QjNRXLSLg53K4eAAv83JSPbc8DpzoHF8/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2023-12-18_21-19-04.png [18-Dec-23 11:43 PM] cleavingambiguity#0000 That's a very nice warehouse you have there @archielvahr . {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [20-Dec-23 10:50 PM] exeler#0000 Sorry, I forgot to reply. Yes, I have plenty of OFF. I've got 11k on ANT right now and making more [21-Dec-23 10:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 a lookup command for past prices from yourself or others before doing an auction would be helpful [21-Dec-23 10:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 same for orders - really just a generic "what was this item last bought/requested for and when" would be nice [21-Dec-23 10:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 I get my week off at the year end here, maybe I'll try to add that functionality in ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Dec-23 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sometimes I want to /order something, but let the seller pick the price [21-Dec-23 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah that too, maybe no restriction on it being a number would be good [21-Dec-23 01:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ooh, looks like @sidepipe has made it through the trial (plus a few days I think) {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [21-Dec-23 01:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 The trial was so nice I did it (almost) twice ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Dec-23 01:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™d be happy to join the corp as a full member if you all are happy to keep me. [21-Dec-23 01:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Invite sent, welcome ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [22-Dec-23 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got my secret santa person [22-Dec-23 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 he's gonna get a base in ANT space ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Dec-23 01:57 PM] churavis#0000 Is he in ANT space? [22-Dec-23 01:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 He signed up for ANT space deliveries, and he has a base on Griff [22-Dec-23 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 I was considering a base on Elon, but picked somewhere closer [22-Dec-23 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Although technically he can move it if he wants to [22-Dec-23 02:00 PM] churavis#0000 Mine got a STS [22-Dec-23 02:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 somehow I bought more than I needed, maybe I should include one [22-Dec-23 02:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 or some FFCs ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Dec-23 02:59 PM] melon164#0000 I was gonna give a ship, but then I found out it was @archielvahr ๐Ÿ˜ [22-Dec-23 02:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜† [25-Dec-23 07:52 AM] martin1194#0000 Merry Christmas!!!! ๐ŸŽ„ :blobhappy: {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ„ (8) ๐ŸŽ… (6) [26-Dec-23 04:21 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Would be cool if all O buyers that want to buy from me could broadcast their demand of O to me. Something like a sum of burn values of `O` on each planet where they want to buy. Then I can compare this number between Vulcan/Deimos/ANT and bring the next load there. [26-Dec-23 03:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use 100/day but it's across like 4 or 5 planets. [27-Dec-23 11:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 I use 200/d, but same thing. Better to just take shipments on ANT for me [27-Dec-23 11:46 AM] tuffyless#0000 I use 100/d and same as above; easier to make the trade on ANT. [27-Dec-23 12:34 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yeah, bringing it to ANT is more convenient, as I can refuel and fly back immediately. [27-Dec-23 12:34 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I will also sell some TIO occasionally [27-Dec-23 12:36 PM] neth_havoc#0000 150/d, ANT is good enough for me [27-Dec-23 02:01 PM] exeler#0000 I also overproduce O and bringing it all to ANT is easiest [01-Jan-24 03:12 AM] allocater#0000 Happy New Year ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿฅ‚ ๐ŸŽ‡ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (10) [01-Jan-24 08:20 AM] domicius#0000 Happy New Year everyone! [06-Jan-24 02:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 permit 24, woo! [06-Jan-24 02:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 going to uWu, need all the glasses and SI [06-Jan-24 06:45 PM] domicius#0000 I have 700 or so [06-Jan-24 06:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh I just meant I need to make them ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (2) [07-Jan-24 09:57 PM] martin1194#0000 Sorry for disappear awhile. I think I will remake my base because I diversifying into too many industries has often led to a problem of insufficient supply for me. [07-Jan-24 09:58 PM] martin1194#0000 So I removed some of my supply list in excel. I will auction when I have spare stuff. [07-Jan-24 10:03 PM] martin1194#0000 diversifying into too many industries let me can't offer best price in Ooga D: [08-Jan-24 12:13 PM] exeler#0000 So I may have accidentally left TRU on recurring for waaay too long. Would anyone be interested in buying a lifetime supply of TRU? [08-Jan-24 12:14 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I will take 1000 [08-Jan-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 lol they add up really fast. [08-Jan-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Once I made 2k.. they did actually sell pretty quick on the CX [08-Jan-24 12:16 PM] exeler#0000 Send me a contract on ANT. Make up whatever price you want. [08-Jan-24 12:16 PM] mrsmith33#0000 100AIC? [08-Jan-24 12:17 PM] exeler#0000 That works for me. [08-Jan-24 12:17 PM] mrsmith33#0000 buying 2k then [08-Jan-24 12:19 PM] exeler#0000 I've only got 1.4k I forgot I cleared out a bunch of CX orders already ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Jan-24 12:20 PM] mrsmith33#0000 ok, cancel the first contract [08-Jan-24 12:22 PM] exeler#0000 I mean, I can always make more TRU if you really want lol. I'm curious how you'd even go about spending 1k TRU [08-Jan-24 12:24 PM] mrsmith33#0000 that's enough for a while [08-Jan-24 12:37 PM] churavis#0000 1k sounds like a lot but a few high HQ upgrades will use those up quick [08-Jan-24 01:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 @emperyan11 I offer much cheaper HE3 if you would rather just buy direct than off the CX [08-Jan-24 01:39 PM] emperyan11#0000 That works for me too! What's your "usual" price and I'll set up some contracts in the future [08-Jan-24 01:40 PM] hernanduer#0000 135/u is fine, I'm shipping a lot more to ANT since I setup some REFs on 206i, so just target them for ANT. I still have 5k available on ANT right now [08-Jan-24 01:41 PM] emperyan11#0000 Perfect! I'm probably good for a few weeks here now but I'll be back for certain! [09-Jan-24 04:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 weird, I got a Materials Sold line a few minutes ago in my FIN buffer, but I didn't get a materials sold notification [09-Jan-24 04:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 I checked all my orders too and none of them are showing the 645k I got, or even any sells in the last hour [09-Jan-24 04:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 like 645k is a lot, I should be able to see that [09-Jan-24 04:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 wallet shows the increase though, so it's not just a spurious log [09-Jan-24 04:07 PM] churavis#0000 Did you buy anything for that amount? [09-Jan-24 04:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 I wasn't even on, just logged in a few minutes after [09-Jan-24 04:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1194402405522096158/image.png?ex=681499ac&is=6813482c&hm=11be242688411e66b591e511b1d7f695013ecdba9ae56f2a2e1e1e95f7818ba7& [09-Jan-24 04:09 PM] churavis#0000 It wouldn't be the amount of the order but the amount of the part of the order that sold at that moment [09-Jan-24 04:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah but I got no sales notification (which I do have turned on) and I checked all orders that could possibly have that value - nothing [09-Jan-24 04:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 like I opened them up to see if a sale occurred [09-Jan-24 04:11 PM] churavis#0000 Did someone pay you on a contract? [09-Jan-24 04:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 didn't get a contract fulfilled either [09-Jan-24 04:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 and I don't think I have any contracts open [09-Jan-24 04:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1194403468346151043/image.png?ex=68149aa9&is=68134929&hm=9ba12b0e21a708e4398be4e10a4e5c4d743ad4794726b4bbeb750821c4032cda& [09-Jan-24 04:13 PM] churavis#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [09-Jan-24 04:56 PM] melon164#0000 https://tenor.com/bkZvj.gif [09-Jan-24 05:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Formatted that way it should be a sale on a CX thing. I would suspect it was just a notification lost in the ether (i didn't know you could turn those on for partially complete cx orders actually) [09-Jan-24 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have given up trying to figure out where my money comes from when something like that happens [09-Jan-24 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 too hard to fish through all the CXOS entries [09-Jan-24 05:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 I checked all of them but none match this either, so free money ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Jan-24 01:48 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey? Stupid question time... how do you set up a LM sale so it auto-provisions? (yes, I'm PRO, paid, etc. ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) [10-Jan-24 01:53 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Auto-provision is only for shipping {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-24 07:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 who is upstream industries and why did they get an invite? [10-Jan-24 07:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 they rejected so I guess it doesn't matter much [10-Jan-24 07:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 I believe someone said it was a misclick / accidental invite [10-Jan-24 07:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 it was pending for over a month [11-Jan-24 11:16 AM] allocater#0000 my profile picture as youtube video ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1195053585751355492/image.png?ex=6814fde1&is=6813ac61&hm=8243ce6459b187ec59041c041e44ddd2df0b40967746d6e5fbcd4e7fdf9103ad& [11-Jan-24 11:16 AM] allocater#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWqmccgf78w {Embed} PBS Space Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWqmccgf78w Can The Crisis in Cosmology Be SOLVED With Cosmic Voids? Check out the Space Time Merch Store https://www.pbsspacetime.com/shop Sign Up on Patreon to get access to the Space Time Discord! https://www.patreon.com/pbsspacetime Two of the greatest mysteries in cosmology are the nature of dark energy and the apparent conflict in our measurements of the expansion rate of the early versus the modern unive... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/eAgXu6Dn_Tp3Tub0NVLGir3581OK5sQL4SbDzcJ5XFc/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/WWqmccgf78w/maxresdefault.jpg [11-Jan-24 11:19 AM] churavis#0000 Did they pay you royalties? [11-Jan-24 11:20 AM] allocater#0000 it's probably a free picture [11-Jan-24 11:21 AM] churavis#0000 but it's your picture [11-Jan-24 11:21 AM] allocater#0000 nah, I took it from the internet [11-Jan-24 11:21 AM] churavis#0000 *GASP* You *stole* it? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [12-Jan-24 11:00 AM] martin1194#0000 I never check the map for build a new base. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1195412053842731239/image.png?ex=6814fa3b&is=6813a8bb&hm=5f5dfef2c28449d984edb6ad8fa993a12cc9176547ce83f18d796a79cad1d051& [12-Jan-24 11:01 AM] martin1194#0000 I always used "Planet find" and now D: [12-Jan-24 11:01 AM] martin1194#0000 But I only have 5 ships for it D: [12-Jan-24 11:18 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I use my own: https://www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/Map?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=ZND8JwsO0IIyXL1D-1 {Embed} https://www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/Map?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=ZND8JwsO0IIyXL1D-1 Map Created with FigJam https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/F_SkLwZ5X1sQkiPXSI_ErvLx5dRYsEVLM7x0lKaJja4/%3Fver%3Dthumbnails%2F9f4053b8-96ed-4ce8-a750-72cb0bf22330/https/www.figma.com/file/qO5WgsgaitN5HuJv0s5JZc/thumbnail {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Jan-24 11:28 AM] martin1194#0000 I will replanting all of my bases. My supply is always not good. [12-Jan-24 11:32 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I plan so that I have a little excess on each production stage + keep big buffers [12-Jan-24 11:37 AM] martin1194#0000 Are u making all product by yourself? [12-Jan-24 11:38 AM] martin1194#0000 Are there no specific Category are focusing? [12-Jan-24 11:53 AM] martin1194#0000 But thanks. I will follow this term to build my own map ๐Ÿ˜› [12-Jan-24 11:53 AM] martin1194#0000 Better than i only use PruRunner for my base planning [12-Jan-24 12:18 PM] mrsmith33#0000 right now I'm making O,C,FLX,ALO,TIO,C,AL,FE,STL,PP2/PP3 fabs, PG,EPO,NL,KV,BMP stuff,AST,FET,H2O,GRN,NUT,VEG,HER,CAF,RAT,DW,KOM,COF,ALE,GIN,TCO,HAL,CLI,CL,DDT,NS,THF,SOI [12-Jan-24 10:18 PM] martin1194#0000 a lot of stuff : D [13-Jan-24 12:43 PM] donmega1983#0000 Joined the server. [13-Jan-24 03:55 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1195848564786602065/image.png?ex=68149683&is=68134503&hm=237ac3d41a4a7820946b07461d233b4f5e89acbc5634d447c53b11c9a76d2dfc& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (8) ๐Ÿ˜ (4) [14-Jan-24 09:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome to the discord, @donmega1983 ! Are you a prospective OOG member? How did you hear about us? [14-Jan-24 10:01 AM] donmega1983#0000 I was a customer at the bojidar. I notice that I can't cope on my own anymore. I need more shipping capacity now. I think it might be easier in a community. [14-Jan-24 10:35 AM] allocater#0000 have you upgraded the starter ships yet? That is usually the first step, after that, building more ships [14-Jan-24 10:36 AM] donmega1983#0000 I tried. Then the message comes up that there is no difference between blueprints. [14-Jan-24 11:03 AM] allocater#0000 in the second blueprint you have to change the cargo bay to High-load Cargo Bay, that should give a difference of: WCB + LFE + 25 SSC + 16 BHP [14-Jan-24 12:42 PM] donmega1983#0000 OK. Thanks. I found it [15-Jan-24 06:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 I don't understand him. So he's aware the discord exists but doesn't even welcome someone he invited? ๐Ÿ˜” {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [15-Jan-24 06:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 Also, as churavis mentioned @donmega1983 we're an Antares space based corp. You'll want most of your bases around ANT to get any benefit of the corporation [20-Jan-24 03:24 PM] mrsmith33#0000 A thing I realized I should do with PRO, is use smallest size orders + disable production notifications [20-Jan-24 03:24 PM] mrsmith33#0000 This way I can switch recipes faster [20-Jan-24 03:25 PM] churavis#0000 You haven't done that already? [20-Jan-24 03:25 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Only came to this a week ago [21-Jan-24 10:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 Happy 1000 days of OOG! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (11) [21-Jan-24 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-01-21_10-29-43.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-01-21_10-29-43.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oJdB1Wg6so6Vlkkagi1C2mCUamaM-wqwXx1xM36R2dg/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-01-21_10-29-43.png [23-Jan-24 11:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have a guy, Harmonia only, who's asking about the corp. Anyone know MarkyCz? I can send him a discord invite [23-Jan-24 11:26 AM] mrsmith33#0000 see #space-politics [23-Jan-24 11:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah yeah [25-Jan-24 04:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 307e became Astraeus apparently [25-Jan-24 04:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 not a bad name I guess [25-Jan-24 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 At least itโ€™s not Elon II [25-Jan-24 07:16 PM] churavis#0000 There are definitely worse named planets [27-Jan-24 07:19 PM] higgsy#0000 Astraeus is god of dusk, wind, stars, and planets. It fits with the theme. I suspect we'll end up calling it "Astra". {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [28-Jan-24 12:49 PM] higgsy#0000 I just noticed Ant4c is "Life" [28-Jan-24 12:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 Antares 4 - Life ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-24 12:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 I thought it was pretty clever [29-Jan-24 08:45 AM] martin1194#0000 May I ask how to add population in planet? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1201538562244497468/image.png?ex=6814da7c&is=681388fc&hm=e3eefb1bfe4ecae96683a0b9c7641dbf0a68f91978684da1e31d56401141c2c6& [29-Jan-24 08:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 you need happiness to be over 70% and/or run immigration/festives program if you are a governor [29-Jan-24 08:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1201539143214317709/image.png?ex=6814db07&is=68138987&hm=bd074ca4926c49687cce0c5b7bf7485ea6d3e521131707c58e9f6bff19fffcaa& [29-Jan-24 08:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 That looks like a new planet, so you should get your starting 200 people, then more will show up each week. Being governor and running immigration is really really helpful for new planets [29-Jan-24 09:28 AM] martin1194#0000 But why the SST no need any upkeep? [29-Jan-24 10:21 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Because its current level is 0. The level 1 will start working after next POPR [30-Jan-24 12:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 Either this is a really fun edge case for PMMG, or I'm about to be rich ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1201952256661135400/image.png?ex=68150a45&is=6813b8c5&hm=4b9a3c3572fd9194c2cbe122c0d0bf294a2c299683474615ec07f34854c656dd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) ๐Ÿ’ธ (2) [30-Jan-24 02:10 PM] melon164#0000 There are several electronics items that are <0.005t/u, so would round to zero at 2dp [30-Jan-24 05:05 PM] emperyan11#0000 Take all you can! [30-Jan-24 06:12 PM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿช (3) ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [30-Jan-24 07:02 PM] Deleted User#0000 hey everyone, not entirely sure if this is the correct place to put this but thanks for having me! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅธ [30-Jan-24 07:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hello australis! Australis governs Antares I - Astraeus. He's based entirely in ANT space, and he runs the Antares Grant Program, which he's been posting about lately. Company Code [A]. OOG is the premier corporation in Antares space and the largest governance organization in the universe. Our corporation includes weekly dividends in excess of 100k AIC, governance training and support, planetary and regional development, a discord-based internal auction/order system and preferential material access and prices. The Bank of OOG offers loans, currency conversion, and investment opportunities, including base teleports. Our friendly group has members that are active in all timezones . Welcome to our one week trial! During the trial please get a feel for the corp, you're welcome to participate in our corp prices, our auctions, etc... everything except the dividends. If we're a good fit for each other after the week, we'll extend a formal in-game invite. Take a look at our #welcome and #rules-faq channels to get started! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Jan-24 07:48 PM] Deleted User#0000 much appreciated for the warm welcome ^^ [30-Jan-24 07:51 PM] Deleted User#0000 ~~is there a document or list for internal prices on goods?~~ never mind, found what i was looking for [30-Jan-24 08:20 PM] emperyan11#0000 Welcome aboard. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (3) [01-Feb-24 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Been a busy week here on APEX: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-02-01_13-21-41.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-02-01_13-21-41.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/dvSV2RGVidty5ddACOfU3Ikzw2zTQjbb16YrvPNCD0g/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-02-01_13-21-41.png [01-Feb-24 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I did make a whopping 3,256 AIC from the Antares Head of Excellence for upgrading my HQ [01-Feb-24 01:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 At an actual cost of ~30m if you were to put a value on my own afabs [01-Feb-24 01:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's only a return of -99.99%! wunderbar! [01-Feb-24 02:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 don't worry, I'll make up for it in volume ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Feb-24 05:14 AM] rune_242#0000 Hi everyone, I have decided to stop playing Prosperous universe. I have lost interest in the game but I liked the time I had with al of you. Later this day I'll start dissembling my bases. Thank you all! {Reactions} โค๏ธ (12) ๐Ÿ˜• (2) โœŒ๏ธ (2) [03-Feb-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Aww we'll miss you rune! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks foir letting us know though! [03-Feb-24 10:27 AM] churavis#0000 I'll miss you to Rune, and not just your HAL ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-24 11:52 AM] domicius#0000 It's been an honour. Nay, a privilege. Catch you in another game, I hope! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-24 12:33 PM] rune_242#0000 Pls let me know if there is a major update to the game to get me interested again๐Ÿ™‚ [06-Feb-24 08:28 PM] higgsy#0000 It's been great knowing you, Rune! [07-Feb-24 03:01 PM] andykorth#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} think ๐Ÿฅธ (2) [07-Feb-24 04:23 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @churavis What's the ETA on 16 TSH? [07-Feb-24 04:25 PM] churavis#0000 about a day {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Feb-24 05:00 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Coincidently, I've made a big push to build & hold a bunch of TSH. Got over 230x at ANT, with more on the way. Just FYI for the future. Same thing with HSE & AEF (1k+ of each) [08-Feb-24 07:32 PM] Deleted User#0000 would i be able to get the deimos, nike, harmonia, griffonstone and phobos roles? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Feb-24 11:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Do I need a base on SE-110b to actually join the planet chat? Don't know how much actually goes on in there, was just curious ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Feb-24 11:36 AM] churavis#0000 Yes [09-Feb-24 11:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Cool, I'll just be an absentee governor for now ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Feb-24 11:41 AM] Deleted User#0000 you can use the fio website's chat feature to view planetary chat even if you don't have a base [09-Feb-24 11:41 AM] Deleted User#0000 requires a bit more effort but it does work [09-Feb-24 11:43 AM] sidepipe#0000 good, to know, I'll try that! [09-Feb-24 04:21 PM] tuffyless#0000 Can view PLI chats in this discord server: https://discord.com/channels/891423987865882695/891423989044477955/1065497004966428704 [15-Feb-24 04:12 AM] domicius#0000 I just realised the @allocater and I both joined PU on the same day... {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [17-Feb-24 10:33 AM] kaiserzero_#0000 Joined the server. [18-Feb-24 01:26 AM] higgsy#0000 LS-300 (Griff) is now Ant V! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [18-Feb-24 02:24 PM] emperyan11#0000 Hey all, I'm headed to Spain for a month so I'm going to be extremely sporadic. Please don't kick me 'kay? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) [18-Feb-24 04:35 PM] Deleted User#0000 enjoy yourself ^^ [18-Feb-24 04:40 PM] emperyan11#0000 Many thanks! It's the wife's 50th and our 20th anniversary so we thought we should do something big! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [18-Feb-24 04:41 PM] Deleted User#0000 congratulations, dont have ***too much*** fun [18-Feb-24 04:41 PM] emperyan11#0000 Understood, lol [18-Feb-24 11:00 PM] churavis#0000 Buen viaje [20-Feb-24 04:53 AM] melon164#0000 I'll buy someone (maybe a newer member) a 2k/2k ship if they use it to do ten HRT --> ANT runs for me [20-Feb-24 07:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I can do this [21-Feb-24 07:07 AM] melon164#0000 Go on then, I'll put it together over in #ship-building [25-Feb-24 12:32 PM] exeler#0000 Big auction up for SSC in #auctions. You remembered to repair your ships recently right? [25-Feb-24 12:33 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yea, all my ships need repairing [27-Feb-24 02:06 AM] exeler#0000 Auctions up for some crops on ANT, and some bulk orders up for some RAT, DW, and COF. I have lots of agriculture bases, tons of PIOs to feed, but no FP bases because I hate myself. [27-Feb-24 08:27 AM] churavis#0000 There are plots open on Norwick [27-Feb-24 11:30 PM] tuffyless#0000 and SE-110a ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Feb-24 12:37 AM] higgsy#0000 What's the plan with DW? ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1212649715389435954/image.png?ex=681510ce&is=6813bf4e&hm=99b8cf63e1768459ba82ec7ced0d9fc7e3194b10dce18ca6624f713b2edabaa2& [29-Feb-24 07:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like it's just an organically high price.. so need mroe Ice Station Alpha + SE-110a FP planets [29-Feb-24 03:55 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Can you send next 5 contracts? [29-Feb-24 03:55 PM] melon164#0000 They're up on ANT {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [29-Feb-24 03:55 PM] melon164#0000 Sorry, meant to ping you [29-Feb-24 05:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't need more ships, but I can take shipping contracts if you want, @melon164 I got extras sittin' around [29-Feb-24 05:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Or you could rope @_bojidar into taking some, I think he has extra ships ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Feb-24 05:58 PM] melon164#0000 That would be great; what size? [29-Feb-24 06:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 2k 2k [01-Mar-24 02:38 AM] melon164#0000 I've put some up ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Mar-24 02:38 AM] melon164#0000 I'm afraid you don't get the $250/t rate ๐Ÿ˜“ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [02-Mar-24 02:43 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 @cleavingambiguity check your CONT! there's coffee waiting to be picked up by you. ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Mar-24 05:10 PM] churavis#0000 Does no one make FET any more or am I not offering enough for it? [02-Mar-24 05:24 PM] exeler#0000 I used to make some, but for the last couple of months I've just been making WAL->CTF on repeat [03-Mar-24 02:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I dont have feo to make it on Deimos [03-Mar-24 02:51 AM] melon164#0000 I stopped all my ASMs a couple of months ago [03-Mar-24 02:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 So I make ast atm [03-Mar-24 02:51 AM] melon164#0000 The cargo bay market feels really overcrowded [03-Mar-24 10:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 I buy/sell my TI products at around 1500 [03-Mar-24 10:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 also I forget to check here and just queue up some cargo bays when my Deimos storage starts to fill up [03-Mar-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 I do have 6 ASMs on Deimos making mostly AST/FET so if you just send me a contract directly I'll be alot more likely to remember and fulfill it within a few days ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Mar-24 11:05 AM] neth_havoc#0000 I mostly make AST, but don't have TI at the moment anyways. I have 20 FET on ANT if you want @churavis {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [04-Mar-24 06:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 I forgot about one of my FP planets and it's been running this whole time. it had 14k rat 1500 FIM and 8k DW [04-Mar-24 06:42 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Does anyone else have a base on Life (Harmonia system) or is everyone going for SE-110 system? [04-Mar-24 07:01 PM] tuffyless#0000 Im in the SE sys but am also gunna move my HYF's from Harmonia to Life. Then replace the HYF's w/ FRM's. [04-Mar-24 07:43 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Cool, that's what I have. FRM on Harmonia, HYF on Life [08-Mar-24 04:00 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @melon164 Your delivery is on ANT, but not enough space in your warehouse [08-Mar-24 04:02 AM] melon164#0000 Should be space now [08-Mar-24 10:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 about to get level 24/base 25, planning on Antares Ia for expanded low level electronics production {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [08-Mar-24 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 hoping to get another FP base for #26 [08-Mar-24 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 to start making MEAs [08-Mar-24 10:33 AM] hernanduer#0000 and more FIMs, I have a huge excess of HER (25/d lol) [08-Mar-24 10:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 we created a new FP planet in the ISA system right? [08-Mar-24 10:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 SE-110`a` [08-Mar-24 10:40 AM] hernanduer#0000 right that's what I thought, cool [08-Mar-24 10:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, I have 27 FPs making DW on SE-110a and that's been pretty great [08-Mar-24 11:24 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I did 26 FP + RIG + EXT for 500/500 area use [08-Mar-24 12:01 PM] tuffyless#0000 got 27 making RAT/DW/COF. Need another FP pli. [08-Mar-24 12:03 PM] tuffyless#0000 Been eyeballing Milliways (KW-020c) [09-Mar-24 12:38 PM] Deleted User#0000 does anyone sell ALE at a cheaper than cx price? [09-Mar-24 02:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like @hernanduer is the only producer on the spreadsheet: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-09_14-00-47.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-09_14-00-47.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3wenXOM3OOzQlHc6ukbc7UGTbKhsYoI-uu_j4Au2hns/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-09_14-00-47.png [09-Mar-24 02:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I make a tiny bit, but less than I use ๐Ÿฅฒ [09-Mar-24 02:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I have 500 extra HOP on Norwick if anyone wants to get into it [09-Mar-24 02:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 I might try my hand at it next time I have some permits. I just started making DDT, so Iโ€™m 25% there ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Mar-24 02:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have two ORCs on Demeter and I way overproduce HOP so I'd be happy to unload that at a discount. Each FER really only uses 2 HOP a day too [09-Mar-24 04:14 PM] Deleted User#0000 gotcha, thanks [09-Mar-24 05:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 speaking of which, I do have some to auction [10-Mar-24 12:33 AM] neth_havoc#0000 That would be nice, I have 4 FER making mostly KOM, because I don't have any ORC (yet). [10-Mar-24 12:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Send me a contract for like 200 HOP on Norwick for something like 1000/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Mar-24 12:36 AM] churavis#0000 Be careful about building ORC, it's easy to overproduce with them [10-Mar-24 12:39 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Yeah, that's why I haven't done it, at least not an ORC base. Maybe I will squeeze one in at my Harmonia base one day. ๐Ÿ˜… [10-Mar-24 06:49 AM] martin1194#0000 Someone controlling H2O price in ANT. [10-Mar-24 06:50 AM] martin1194#0000 But when I realize it is Ooga member. My thought gone. "try to fulfill all buy order and break the price control" [10-Mar-24 06:51 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 this is to keep the price low, imho. it is different from that attempt at price inflation a couple months ago. {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [10-Mar-24 09:42 AM] martin1194#0000 oh. H2O price was up to 40. : O [10-Mar-24 09:42 AM] martin1194#0000 didn't check that. [10-Mar-24 10:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have 1500 HOP, if anyone wants to buy some ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Mar-24 10:50 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Got some monies {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1216412888420450386/image.png?ex=6814e9c8&is=68139848&hm=c19af27ada695f3bc4847aacd6336982123791edf6332d903b928fe7bdf72408& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ ๐ŸŽ‰ [10-Mar-24 02:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'd buy 200 or 300 off you, name your price. I wanna make booze too ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Mar-24 03:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 same as what Archiel said is fine [10-Mar-24 08:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 sent a contract for ANT - let me know if they're stored somewhere else [11-Mar-24 04:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 In Deimos chat {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1216862067190005970/image.png?ex=681491dd&is=6813405d&hm=7c6f27545c932b432ed17afb4558283d01dc4f42eb33049ce92b2a849034cd4a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅธ (2) [11-Mar-24 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got busy at work, someone can send them a message or somethin' [11-Mar-24 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I delegate it ๐Ÿ˜› [12-Mar-24 02:18 PM] churavis#0000 https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Xw7KC9K2I4XIoYq-IipworxVr3kDGv7o4qnEiWdQ74w/https/media.tenor.com/gdjvRr2WymYAAAAe/pacha-perfect.png [12-Mar-24 02:18 PM] churavis#0000 An in-universe joke with a delectible play on words? You can't find this off a joke website: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1217189892665380935/image.png?ex=68151a6c&is=6813c8ec&hm=821c93021ec672e99ab968726b63cddb2c57364ebfb128eeb4239bf52e4c4040& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) ๐Ÿ˜‚ (5) ๐Ÿช [12-Mar-24 06:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 a masterpiece, for sure [19-Mar-24 05:34 AM] domicius#0000 Shortest trip ever? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1219594735593721966/image.png?ex=68149f9b&is=68134e1b&hm=d3cbdebe7206b2a0b737d8916209a1998aca96f5c24f25cc1d685060f010e8e7& [19-Mar-24 10:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 ANT to Ia can be done in like 20minutes without even using all that much fuel [19-Mar-24 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 oops [19-Mar-24 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-19_21-08-15.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-19_21-08-15.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0HwwvJEG4L7RGFVOn7B56n9PaYZKUMJLVEQ7V0UZuXE/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-19_21-08-15.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (4) ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-Mar-24 09:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 https://tenor.com/view/stiill-flying-half-a-ship-gif-26891872 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/stiill-flying-half-a-ship-gif-26891872 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UNj76-Lz2El-RfIH0-4ahapDT7qVD3x37h2xBxObIXg/https/media.tenor.com/vlFbZV0T1OkAAAAe/stiill-flying-half-a-ship.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [21-Mar-24 08:09 AM] sidepipe#0000 On that note, at what condition should you start thinking about repairing ships? Iโ€™ve been playing a bit over 100 days now and havenโ€™t repaired any yet ๐Ÿ˜… [21-Mar-24 08:10 AM] melon164#0000 They start slowing down when condition drops below 80% [21-Mar-24 09:23 AM] Deleted User#0000 i left mine until they were either just over 80% or just below it [21-Mar-24 11:39 AM] churavis#0000 Now that there are higher fixed costs for repairs, I've been repairing them around 81% or 82% [24-Mar-24 02:58 PM] exeler#0000 A nearly perfect fit :chefkiss: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1221548664699355196/image.png?ex=681523d8&is=6813d258&hm=76b2cdeecc77fc3f3f4573f636f50d7bb827e9b0ccc09fd158ba02745d0765c5& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (5) ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [27-Mar-24 10:50 PM] exeler#0000 It's been a while, but I just pushed a new update to the bot we have in here! Nothing major is new, but the OG `/auction` command got a bit of a face life. The bid and partial bid buttons should now behave the same as the `/order` command (you can now set a partial bid straight away without having to create a full bid first) 90% of the other changes I made were backend refactoring stuff to make things work more consistently, but shouldn't impact anything {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—๏ธ (4) ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) [27-Mar-24 10:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Awesome, great work with that bot {Reactions} thankyou (2) Heart_Full [27-Mar-24 10:54 PM] exeler#0000 Ironically though, I broke the partial bid buttons on any currently open auctions, the other buttons for full bids and finishing them should still work though ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Mar-24 11:01 PM] exeler#0000 For fun facts, the bot has 738 auctions in its database. Considering it's only about a year old, and didn't even have a database at first, that's roughly 2 auctions per day on average. [27-Mar-24 11:01 PM] churavis#0000 It's been super useful [27-Mar-24 11:03 PM] exeler#0000 I've been considering sharing it more publicly in the community tools discord, seems unbalanced to let OOG be the only benefactors of it ๐Ÿคฃ I wanted to get some CI/CD on it and make the codebase a bit more pretty before doing that, but considering my off-hours programming escapades have been near 0 for the last 6 months, that's probably not happening anytime soon [28-Mar-24 10:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 @zipatsu do you frequently feel like the water king? ๐ŸŒŠ [28-Mar-24 10:25 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/broseidon-poseidon-greek-god-bro-gif-5516791 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/broseidon-poseidon-greek-god-bro-gif-5516791 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jPFfd6KfaLXcryTFpL7B45FQQo0bgCBWoprM6QFl2_A/https/media.tenor.com/HMDBROLJi-sAAAAe/broseidon-poseidon.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‘ (4) [28-Mar-24 10:26 AM] zipatsu#0000 About to start up another H2O base when the ship lands in 2 days ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (4) [28-Mar-24 12:01 PM] tuffyless#0000 ChineseEarthquake just emptied the ANT CX of RAT. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1222953817176539146/image.png?ex=6814fa7f&is=6813a8ff&hm=d93b6fa996fe28a7294ca065a179f36f7ebd7a417a586f5adcd3d4b2f4a7ea9b& [28-Mar-24 12:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 he's a strange character [28-Mar-24 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 He didn't buy my RAT at 165 ๐Ÿ˜ญ [28-Mar-24 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Wiping out both sides, I guess just giving away money ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [28-Mar-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 I suddently have 47k RAT on ant, so he must have filled buy orders... but they don't show up in my CXOS [28-Mar-24 12:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 yeh, I literally watched him buy the asks and fill the bids in live-time. haha [28-Mar-24 12:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 Quick, choose a new price for RAT! ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Mar-24 12:17 PM] tuffyless#0000 was quite profitable for some and very generous to others. ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1222957681980084344/image.png?ex=6814fe18&is=6813ac98&hm=0d85d94bbc2b6057223902179156a87863aaf68969e5586da9b9d778d3c00812& [28-Mar-24 12:18 PM] tuffyless#0000 I'll give those proceeds to anyone here w/ Afabs to sell. ๐Ÿคฃ [28-Mar-24 12:21 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm ramping up my Afab production for HQ upgrades [28-Mar-24 12:23 PM] churavis#0000 For whose HQ upgrades? [28-Mar-24 12:23 PM] mrsmith33#0000 mine [28-Mar-24 12:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 e'erybody needs afabs! [28-Mar-24 12:43 PM] melon164#0000 Looks like he didn't quite have enough money, time or energy to burn all the way through to the MM [28-Mar-24 12:44 PM] melon164#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1222964451154858086/image.png?ex=68150466&is=6813b2e6&hm=ca6f718cfd43c5c0c2f92a6b55eaa87a77251d36b9a3cd81b6fd0a6244b5c0ad& [28-Mar-24 12:44 PM] churavis#0000 Maybe he ran out of space [28-Mar-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 wow that's a lot of RAT [28-Mar-24 12:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wonder why so many orders of 9906... [28-Mar-24 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 sounds like a space thing for exactly that reason {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Mar-24 04:19 PM] tuffyless#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1223018551175020652/image.png?ex=68148e09&is=68133c89&hm=4a9bd6e47b0264cdda04dd3c70af1b04b19c7bd5dadcbb3de34d3a7cdf3f5225& [29-Mar-24 06:14 AM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1223228865749712916/H2NO.png?ex=6814a928&is=681357a8&hm=3ee6d3e2539f9bae354ce44a35c871501d1f33f909ca65b36c3cf6fd4829dbaa& [29-Mar-24 06:16 AM] zipatsu#0000 This player keeps doing the same thing, am not sure if it's a storage / math capacity issue or if they're just trying to get my hopes up ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Mar-24 09:08 AM] hernanduer#0000 That's really obnoxious [29-Mar-24 09:08 AM] hernanduer#0000 Like what could he possibly be doing lol [29-Mar-24 09:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 maybe he has 10 bases with one building each, and he sends a ship per base [29-Mar-24 09:09 AM] churavis#0000 My guess is he's just bad at math and wants to just spam the buy button until he see's the number he needs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [31-Mar-24 11:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 omg the colors: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-31_23-21-17.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-31_23-21-17.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4cfjVJoxHJkp1narlQc2J8OxyDkZcBFlf55i1VonRPU/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-03-31_23-21-17.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคข (2) [31-Mar-24 11:23 PM] churavis#0000 grey and black are not colors that should be used for food [31-Mar-24 11:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think it must be April 1st somewhere [31-Mar-24 11:23 PM] churavis#0000 That would explain it [31-Mar-24 11:24 PM] churavis#0000 I told someone today to not trust anything anyone said tomorrow and here I am being totally hoodwinked {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [01-Apr-24 03:36 AM] neth_havoc#0000 It is. In the settings mark: "Opt Out of Future Surprises" [01-Apr-24 04:31 AM] martin1194#0000 Thanks, it's help [01-Apr-24 06:18 PM] tuffyless#0000 Brown water!! yumm ... ohh so gritty {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฉ [02-Apr-24 09:41 AM] melon164#0000 Seems I am the SC.AI1 market: every time I forget about it and it runs dry, chaos ensues ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1224730385943101511/image.png?ex=6814d98e&is=6813880e&hm=bf6d4ba86474231d2d8e8cebc36a94aba5a6abcc19e45f218172d29afa29e173& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Apr-24 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 How is SC to make? It doesnโ€™t seem too bad except for maybe the TA [02-Apr-24 09:55 AM] sidepipe#0000 Trying to figure out what to make next once I get everything in SE-110 up and running ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Apr-24 11:36 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have some TAI from WU-070a, but no AML atm [02-Apr-24 01:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have lots of extra AML space if anyone needs it [02-Apr-24 01:08 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have BER and TAI. Griffon base is in the plans, but not soon [02-Apr-24 01:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 I charge refining cost at 150/hr at about 160% [02-Apr-24 01:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 I math bad, here are the right rates per unit of product: BOS=280 BE=224 TA=1458 ZR=1346 W=1346 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [02-Apr-24 01:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's with you supplying inputs and I give outputs [02-Apr-24 01:15 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Where do you accept inputs / provide outputs? What should be the contract deadlines? [02-Apr-24 01:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 ANT or Griff, depends on how much you want refined I suppose. Just add a couple days buffer to whatever the refining time / 8 and it should be good [02-Apr-24 01:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have 8 AMLs on Griff [02-Apr-24 01:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 if it's ANT, add another couple days for travel time {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Apr-24 01:23 PM] melon164#0000 Very straightforward if you do it on-site {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1224786192533422281/image.png?ex=68150d87&is=6813bc07&hm=2e97451d94b2101e97afe424d5cad22a5d08a836952ef53acafae9f41338e1ff& [02-Apr-24 01:23 PM] melon164#0000 TAI/TA are heavy af, so bring in CA/MG and it's easy [02-Apr-24 01:23 PM] melon164#0000 Those CHPs should just be doing SC straight, but I ran out of CA [02-Apr-24 01:23 PM] melon164#0000 I think the perfect ratio is 4:5 [02-Apr-24 01:24 PM] melon164#0000 but beware that this is ~20% of the universe production ๐Ÿคท {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [02-Apr-24 01:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, volume on that stuff is crazy low [02-Apr-24 01:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 don't even get started on stuff like LC or WS [02-Apr-24 01:36 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Do other players see Name and Preamble fields of the contracts that I send? [02-Apr-24 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, although PMMG has an option to minimize that section so they might not look at it [02-Apr-24 02:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Good to know, thanks! Iโ€™ve been slowly climbing up the ladder of consumables, so Iโ€™m trying to figure out if it makes more sense to get into KOM, ALE, etc or the other things like SC. Seems like Iโ€™ll need more spreadsheets first ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Apr-24 02:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 Completely anecdotally, it seems like CL.AI1 has way more supply than demand, so maybe thatโ€™ll encourage more chemistry. Which means more SC. Maybe. [02-Apr-24 02:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 I would suggest avoiding VG. I have 5000 VG and the universe wide 7d amount is like 250 [02-Apr-24 02:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m part of that problem - when I started DDT on Elon, VG made basically no change to the ROI when used, so I didnโ€™t buy any {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Apr-24 02:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 I would buy some off you though, if you want to get rid of some ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Apr-24 02:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll do another auction to thin my supply [03-Apr-24 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh man these RAT shenanigans... [03-Apr-24 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_Jo4j66pf98.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_Jo4j66pf98.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BhoDhLr14VZWvpUol_XoHNY7ftvXtWOOxbJaklt9Hp4/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_Jo4j66pf98.png [03-Apr-24 11:13 AM] melon164#0000 I was hoping for more tbh [03-Apr-24 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 He sold 185,714 RAT to the market maker at 35/u [03-Apr-24 11:14 AM] melon164#0000 I'm patriotically embarrassed at how high our RAT.AI1 MM balance is ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03-Apr-24 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 heh [03-Apr-24 11:15 AM] archielvahr#0000 But to have it go down... so many RATs erased from existance [03-Apr-24 11:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 Since people were buying at the MM of 165/u... That's potentially 30m of high priced RAT gone [03-Apr-24 11:17 AM] melon164#0000 Well @_bojidar seems to be bringing half of the 40k RAT I just stole from BEN ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Apr-24 11:26 AM] _bojidar#0000 ๐Ÿ˜€ you eat too much [03-Apr-24 11:54 AM] melon164#0000 After paying $4/u for shipping it's not actually much cheaper, but it feels like a civic duty win ๐Ÿ˜ [03-Apr-24 11:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 Another fun tip from this report. We had a drop in CIS money supply. Looks like 3 big players disappeared probably. A net loss of 124m CIS, when there's typical growth of like 200m+... probably means 324m across those players who quit. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) [03-Apr-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_OfC6aLZCf6.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_OfC6aLZCf6.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Hmv1iSR9-xMVM4H8dQHW0kRioVTTXw6UvNIuHhMNpNc/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_OfC6aLZCf6.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [03-Apr-24 02:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh cool, so I have more than 1.25% of all AIC ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Apr-24 02:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 wiled away in my dusty wallet [04-Apr-24 09:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 can we get a Neon auction? [04-Apr-24 09:23 AM] churavis#0000 I've got AEF if that's all you need [04-Apr-24 09:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 nah, I'm just trying to continue making it myself ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Apr-24 09:29 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I need 500 NE too [04-Apr-24 09:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think @parisinspringtime made a neon base? [04-Apr-24 09:30 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yeah, I bought previous batch from him [04-Apr-24 09:35 AM] melon164#0000 I don't have any RIGs on KI-401d atm, but I do have plenty of NE in stock; I put an auction up [04-Apr-24 09:36 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is no NE on that planet [04-Apr-24 09:36 AM] melon164#0000 Oh wait that's AR [04-Apr-24 09:37 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” why do I have 1k NE on ANT then? [04-Apr-24 09:37 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿคท have it anyway {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… ๐Ÿ˜† [04-Apr-24 09:50 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 I have tons of NE for everyone. Send me conts at MM price at ANT. {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [04-Apr-24 09:50 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Though I also supply AEF at 2k/unit, which is cost. [05-Apr-24 02:12 AM] exeler#0000 Another small update to the auction bot: `/list_auctions` should work now. It'll have buttons to navigate through pages, and should be sorted with newest auctions first. It won't include closed auctions, only currently open ones. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [05-Apr-24 10:51 AM] churavis#0000 Is there a way to add the sponsor of the auctions to the list? {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (2) [05-Apr-24 10:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 `available on` can be removed to save space [05-Apr-24 11:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 I like it a lot. the buttons seem to be greyed out for me even though it says 5 pages [05-Apr-24 11:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 And yeah, I am curious if any of those are mine ๐Ÿคซ [05-Apr-24 05:09 PM] exeler#0000 The interaction has a timeout set. So I think that means that like 10 minutes or so after the command is used the nav menu won't work any more. I think I can set that to be a lot longer (like days). I can also update the message easily. I'll add in the username of the sponsor sometime tonight. Probably. Maybe ๐Ÿ˜… [06-Apr-24 12:34 AM] exeler#0000 Done ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [06-Apr-24 01:24 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Maybe very old auctions should be closed? [06-Apr-24 07:31 AM] exeler#0000 Yup, that's next on my to-do list [07-Apr-24 04:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Iโ€™m mostly away from my computer this weekend. Back on Tuesday! Or I might brave the mobile interface occasionally. [07-Apr-24 05:13 PM] katinga#0000 Joined the server. [07-Apr-24 05:14 PM] tuffyless#0000 Hi Southern Tauren! Welcome [07-Apr-24 05:14 PM] tuffyless#0000 Is katinga your in-game name? [07-Apr-24 05:22 PM] tuffyless#0000 Hey guys, Katinga may be interested in joining OOG so I gave him our Discord link here, so we all could get to know each other. Can someone get him the Discord Roles when ya get a free moment, that are appropriate at this stage. In the meantime Katinga, you should be able to see a couple Public channels/threads, which serve as a slight introduction. Any questions or discussion items you have, plz feel free to shoot away. ๐Ÿ™‚ Many of us are in-and-out of here at various times daily. Welcome to OOG. [07-Apr-24 10:10 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Oh, I was just to say I got a message from them too. Glad someone beat me to the punch! [08-Apr-24 07:44 AM] katinga#0000 Yep, I'm here ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Apr-24 07:44 AM] katinga#0000 Yes [08-Apr-24 08:03 AM] melon164#0000 Does anyone have a stock of EDC/IDC I can buy (anywhere) to take to Moria for a shopping trip? [08-Apr-24 08:04 AM] melon164#0000 These are too heavy ๐Ÿ˜ญ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1226880264731496448/image.png?ex=6814c2c9&is=68137149&hm=6a4f726045684db0b73fcbfbc24391198f76cf0907701ef9ab2d85037354aac8& [08-Apr-24 08:04 AM] melon164#0000 Alternatively, does anyone have 10M or so NCC ๐Ÿ˜ [08-Apr-24 11:49 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-penguin-greetings-pudgy-pudgypenguins-gif-2482217172872131186 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-penguin-greetings-pudgy-pudgypenguins-gif-2482217172872131186 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/rDKi1l7MvmQLKryGHVGBZmDpO_EB6A6u0UMMk1cxG2I/https/media.tenor.com/InKbXgxq8nIAAAAe/welcome-penguin.png [08-Apr-24 05:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 @xfeuerdrachenx you sent a contact for 50 LDE? [08-Apr-24 05:04 PM] Deleted User#0000 just wondering what for [09-Apr-24 10:17 AM] katinga#0000 Does anyone have 1 SSC at Vulcan? I just need 1 [09-Apr-24 10:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 I keep my stuff on Heph, I think you'll find most people keep theirs at shipyard planets [09-Apr-24 12:03 PM] katinga#0000 1 little trip from ANT to Vulcan made the SSC count for repairs go up 1. of course, the game won't let me mostly repair my ship. It's all or none [09-Apr-24 12:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 is it right there at 80%? [09-Apr-24 12:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 if not, it's not a big deal to push it off [09-Apr-24 12:12 PM] churavis#0000 I've got SSC on Deimos [09-Apr-24 12:29 PM] katinga#0000 just above [09-Apr-24 01:06 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 I saw your respond on an order and thought I give it a try ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Apr-24 01:06 PM] Deleted User#0000 that was me asking for it and just to show i didnt need it anymore [09-Apr-24 01:07 PM] Deleted User#0000 xd, all good though, just curious about it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1227318909208629298/image.png?ex=681509ce&is=6813b84e&hm=730fa45ba80e41ebdf2fd9cf03bb620c7fe2851f42d188d35f86ebedae49981f& [09-Apr-24 01:07 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 ahh shit ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Apr-24 01:08 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 LDE has cracy profit margins [09-Apr-24 01:42 PM] churavis#0000 Only if you make your own NL or can source it cheap {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [09-Apr-24 04:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 If you still need it I can make a quick (2h) trip there from the ANT CX โœŒ๏ธ [09-Apr-24 04:14 PM] katinga#0000 i broke down and took a load of AL to ANT to get the 1 SSC [09-Apr-24 04:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 Ah, alright. Realized it was a bit late but figured it was worth asking at least ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Apr-24 04:22 PM] katinga#0000 I needed more FLX anyway {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [09-Apr-24 05:41 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/fml-sylvester-cat-annoyed-head-bang-gif-13045781 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/fml-sylvester-cat-annoyed-head-bang-gif-13045781 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/9vUty5vx1QdhLrRbdvRBtT6kVyYTtRFYr9aq5aFYwVE/https/media.tenor.com/Dxii7lqblTAAAAAe/fml-sylvester.png [09-Apr-24 05:41 PM] katinga#0000 OMG, this game! [09-Apr-24 05:45 PM] zipatsu#0000 Forget to haul something else after already sending a ship to deliver a forgotten item and now it'll have to do a slow hour(s) long turn to get back to pick up that other item? (No, that definitely hasn't happened to me repeatedly ) [09-Apr-24 05:45 PM] katinga#0000 no the repair went up another item! [09-Apr-24 05:45 PM] zipatsu#0000 Oh, that's even worse ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Apr-24 05:49 PM] katinga#0000 I need another LHP [09-Apr-24 05:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 this is why I stock all my stuff at a shipyard and just work from there on repairs ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Apr-24 06:27 PM] exeler#0000 For repairs, always buy a little more than you need. You'll use the extra for the next repair anyways [09-Apr-24 06:59 PM] katinga#0000 I don't have deep pockets yet to keep stockpiles of stuff [09-Apr-24 07:09 PM] exeler#0000 You only need an extra 1 or 2 or things. If you're so strapped that an extra LHP or SSC is gonna cause a problem, it's probably not worth repairing the ship at all. [10-Apr-24 02:22 PM] allocater#0000 yes, send me contracts, sell CBM for NCC, or AIC for NCC [10-Apr-24 02:28 PM] melon164#0000 I sent a ship [10-Apr-24 03:53 PM] melon164#0000 But... but... what will I do with the other seven?! ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1227723114310533231/image.png?ex=68148800&is=68133680&hm=c94efd2e029454cb15aa8e00847a7a73616ed6c852379d571f9851c26ac13ce7& [10-Apr-24 04:15 PM] churavis#0000 Give them to your kid, I bet they'll find something fun to do with them [10-Apr-24 04:17 PM] higgsy#0000 Life's became busy and I'm unable to keep up with Prun on a regular basis. Since my namesake has just died at 94, I figured now is a good time to leave as well. I'll put up auctions to distribute my stuff in the next few days or so. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ (8) ๐Ÿซก (4) [10-Apr-24 04:32 PM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿซก we'll miss ya [10-Apr-24 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Aww, we'll miss you Higgsy! Come back for the next universe if you get more free time! [10-Apr-24 05:33 PM] domicius#0000 Goodbye Bosun! o7 [11-Apr-24 03:51 AM] exeler#0000 A new update for the auction bot! It should now go through and clean up old auctions (if you had an old auction, you probably already noticed. The bot will send out DMs to people when it closes an auction for you) The default setting is 7 days. No option added to the command to set a max time yet, but that's coming next. Sorry to anyone who got spammed from lots of forgotten auctions ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) ๐Ÿ’ฏ (5) [11-Apr-24 02:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was guilty of 2 sinful auctions [11-Apr-24 02:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 at least they were over 4 and 6 months old [11-Apr-24 04:18 PM] domicius#0000 Yup, good functionality. I got a lot of reminders! [11-Apr-24 04:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 I got a reminder for a bunch of CL I forgot about and listed on the CX. Good thing it isnโ€™t too liquid right now ๐Ÿ˜… [11-Apr-24 06:29 PM] tuffyless#0000 Fuel is getting outa control ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Makes me wanna put a permit or so into producing it. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1228124788766015508/image.png?ex=6814ac97&is=68135b17&hm=a404562c4cc2651394115288ea30a1ab5954893c1638e234f9095999dacf4dbe& [12-Apr-24 10:28 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s been interesting watching the prices at AI1. Seems like it was RATs and DW spiking, then bfabs, now fuel. I feel like you can kinda see the progression of newer players (like me ๐Ÿ™‚ ) in the prices [12-Apr-24 10:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 I could be reading patterns into random noise, but thatโ€™s the entire point of life ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Apr-24 12:05 PM] churavis#0000 I feel like I have saturated the corp's demand for hydrogen so I'm going to move to a request system for hydrogen instead of an auction system. When you need hydrogen, simply send me a contract at 60 AIC/u on ANT for however much you need {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [12-Apr-24 02:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I also produce a lot of hydrogen which I sell on ANT regularly. If there are orders on the exchange at 70 AIC/u I fill them, so if Churaviis happens to be out, just put up an order on the exchange. I ship from IIg every couple of days. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [12-Apr-24 09:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 Does anyone produce NS for sale? Since I'm setting up HYF, I'm trying to decide if it's worth making myself [12-Apr-24 10:11 PM] exeler#0000 I make a lot of excess NS that I auction off on an incredibly irregular basis [12-Apr-24 10:12 PM] exeler#0000 If you were to throw down orders for it though, I could probably sustain a couple full HYF bases with how much I make [12-Apr-24 10:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 Cool, good to know! I'm only planning 5 HYF right now, so definitely not worth making yet ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Apr-24 09:32 AM] katinga#0000 May I please ask if anyone sells POW? I need 10, but it's not urgent. Thanks. [13-Apr-24 09:37 AM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™ll make a batch [13-Apr-24 09:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I just started making them yesterday. Already have 5 on Phobos [13-Apr-24 10:31 AM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™ll not make a batch then ๐Ÿ˜ [13-Apr-24 10:45 AM] sidepipe#0000 Is anyone interested in opening an EDC base for the bank? It's 525k AIC per week (175 EDC @ 3000/u), with no costs to you - you just have to accept a bunch of contracts from me every 60-90 days. There's still plenty of unemployed engineers on Mahalat. [13-Apr-24 10:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 about to get HQ level 25, opening a base on 110a. After reconfiguring my 3 FP planets, I'll be able to provide ~25 GIN/d, ~100 ALE/d, and ~50 FIM/d in excess in corps auctions, so look forward to that increase coming soon to a station near you! Also +1 WIN/d and new 5 MEA/d, but given such low quantities auctions will be very infrequent {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ (2) [13-Apr-24 11:14 AM] katinga#0000 yay, booze! [13-Apr-24 12:03 PM] churavis#0000 I've got 10 POW on Nike already, just send me a contract [13-Apr-24 12:25 PM] katinga#0000 how much per unit? [13-Apr-24 12:34 PM] katinga#0000 how much per unit? [13-Apr-24 12:36 PM] neth_havoc#0000 I will be away from Monday to Friday with no computer access. So if you need cheap fuel the coming days send me an order today. ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ“จ [13-Apr-24 06:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got 78 POW on ANT [13-Apr-24 06:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 feel free to send a contract at 3000/u [13-Apr-24 06:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 unless everyone else already got ya [13-Apr-24 06:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 here's a list for you and anyone else doing a bunch of HQ upgrades: [13-Apr-24 06:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 AFP products for sale! 40 LOG @ 60k 13 ADS @ 130k 25 COM @ 120k Other HQ Upgrade stuff 80+ CBL @ 87k 100+ SP @ 1800 70+ POW @ 3k 30+ BMF @ 20k 40+ BWS @ 20k 0 AAR ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Ship parts: 20+ LFE @ 200k 20+ MFE @ 80k 20+ SFE @ 50k 8 FFC @ 350k 3 LIS @ 400k (for crew quarters) [14-Apr-24 06:53 AM] katinga#0000 thanks, @archielvahr ! [14-Apr-24 03:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think I've finally solved the Excel vs. Google Sheets debate for Prun: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1229167494682644511/image.png?ex=68152bef&is=6813da6f&hm=99afb327ce795855a52c35af107bf049f8777f831598e0596eea0140e565887a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก (3) ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Apr-24 10:22 PM] Deleted User#0000 saganaki would be proud [14-Apr-24 10:22 PM] Deleted User#0000 or absolutely horrified [15-Apr-24 06:35 AM] katinga#0000 Does anyone sell RAT/DW/COF, please? Thanks. [15-Apr-24 07:33 AM] sidepipe#0000 I can do DW@75 and COF@550 on ANT. You can also use the โ€˜/orderโ€™ command in #orders for this kind of thing - thereโ€™s a spreadsheet with everyoneโ€™s prices pinned to the channel ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Apr-24 07:36 AM] katinga#0000 where's the spreadsheet? [15-Apr-24 09:43 AM] sidepipe#0000 where's the spreadsheet? [15-Apr-24 12:45 PM] katinga#0000 BTW, if you guys need something, I am happy to chip in. My main products are SIO, ALO, SI, & AL. I don't have the means to transport large quantities, yet. I have two 1k/1k ships [15-Apr-24 12:46 PM] churavis#0000 When you have a large pile of something on ANT then do an auction and everyone interested will get an equal portion [15-Apr-24 12:52 PM] katinga#0000 I am not familiar with that bot here. The bot traffic on the auction channel is a little confusing. The auctions aren't bid on? [15-Apr-24 12:53 PM] churavis#0000 It's a reverse auction where anyone can put a bid in and then get an equal portion of the total material on auction. Simply go to the Auction channel and then type a "/" and then auction then fill in the fields [15-Apr-24 12:54 PM] churavis#0000 Wait a day or two and then finish it and send out the contracts [15-Apr-24 12:57 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 there were no open auctions to bid on just now. i created a new auction if you want to try bidding on it. [15-Apr-24 01:01 PM] katinga#0000 I don't think I did that right [15-Apr-24 01:02 PM] churavis#0000 If you're trying to get 300 PWO then you did it right [15-Apr-24 01:15 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 looks good. i'll finish the auction after 24 hours then send out contract drafts. [15-Apr-24 01:19 PM] katinga#0000 no rush. i need to sell off more SI [15-Apr-24 01:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 @katinga update your name to include your company as well [15-Apr-24 01:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 also I buy a good amount of SI [15-Apr-24 01:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 so when you're ready to auction it you'll have at least me ๐Ÿ™‚ [15-Apr-24 01:24 PM] katinga#0000 Like this? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [15-Apr-24 01:31 PM] katinga#0000 If I wanted to sell on another planet, could I auction there? [15-Apr-24 01:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, that's one of the args in the /auction command [15-Apr-24 01:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll buy your SI, btw [15-Apr-24 01:47 PM] katinga#0000 I just sold off my last batch at the CX, that's how I paid for Sidepipe's consumables ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Apr-24 12:25 PM] katinga#0000 Anyone need ALO on Vulcan? I have 1600 to sell there [16-Apr-24 12:30 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have like 10k stored and not enough smelting power [16-Apr-24 12:32 PM] katinga#0000 smelting power is my problem too [16-Apr-24 12:32 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And I'm stuck on HQ upgrades now [16-Apr-24 12:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll trade your ALO for my FEO ๐Ÿ˜† [16-Apr-24 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Honestly though I'll buy your ALO Katinga. I can take 1600 now, send a contract any time [16-Apr-24 12:34 PM] katinga#0000 It's taking me forever to chew through all this SIO, that the ALO is just sitting there [16-Apr-24 12:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 btw, I have a plan to start smelting CoGC on ZV-194d, it has AUO I will do `3 EXT, 9 SME, 5 FS` there [16-Apr-24 12:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I now have two bases making connectors, heh ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Apr-24 12:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Gold is pretty annoying [16-Apr-24 12:37 PM] katinga#0000 okay. I'll take the ad out of LM and send you a cont [16-Apr-24 12:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh I can use the LM ad [16-Apr-24 12:37 PM] katinga#0000 it's for only 1500. i have 1685 on hand [16-Apr-24 12:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just never look at the LM anymore... too many planets [16-Apr-24 12:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 Before we had private contracts, I was checking all my LMs all the time [16-Apr-24 12:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 1500 is close enough ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Apr-24 12:38 PM] katinga#0000 sometimes I get lucky with LMs. some dude was selling like 4k of HCP there once and I bought it for my burners. burnables are hard to come by [16-Apr-24 12:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 oof that reminds me: https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1229848853327380491 [16-Apr-24 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can bring more to Nascent too [16-Apr-24 12:42 PM] katinga#0000 if only my burners were on Nascent [16-Apr-24 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah where are they? Are they on a Resource Extraction planet? [16-Apr-24 12:42 PM] katinga#0000 Etherwind [16-Apr-24 12:43 PM] churavis#0000 uWu-070a is a smelting planet, that's where I make my SI and GL products [16-Apr-24 12:44 PM] katinga#0000 uWu? [16-Apr-24 12:44 PM] mrsmith33#0000 WU [16-Apr-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1229849979888341053/th-3204593252.jpg?ex=6815048c&is=6813b30c&hm=bff64b0fa80ff6a502a2068fac0fc26b30b442bd70a3c622a1d878d5ca70d155& [16-Apr-24 12:44 PM] churavis#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1229850012377153557/image.png?ex=68150494&is=6813b314&hm=facca01c90d27c5d6a80e67a1b8d31ffebdab349989ec85d16fb4dd4ea747db1& [16-Apr-24 12:56 PM] katinga#0000 I smelt on Vulcan atm. just expanded my capacity there [16-Apr-24 01:13 PM] katinga#0000 I'll consider that. but atm, that's like 2 or 3 bases in my future [17-Apr-24 06:12 AM] katinga#0000 I've got 400 of it on Vulcan [17-Apr-24 06:23 AM] domicius#0000 ***15% off PRO for this week - use code SPRING24!*** {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ (2) [17-Apr-24 06:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds good Iโ€™ll take it! [17-Apr-24 07:11 AM] darjaves#0000 Joined the server. [17-Apr-24 07:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 Seran (IonRemedy) has switched discord accounts [17-Apr-24 07:16 AM] katinga#0000 I'll send you a cont [17-Apr-24 07:16 AM] darjaves#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Apr-24 07:28 AM] domicius#0000 Hi Seran! [17-Apr-24 07:28 AM] darjaves#0000 Hey [17-Apr-24 07:29 AM] katinga#0000 sent [17-Apr-24 07:29 AM] katinga#0000 Hi! [17-Apr-24 01:12 PM] katinga#0000 sorry. i screwed my order up [17-Apr-24 01:33 PM] mrsmith33#0000 You can press fulfill all yourself to mark it as fulfilled [17-Apr-24 01:38 PM] katinga#0000 someone filled it [17-Apr-24 02:49 PM] katinga#0000 @neth_havoc do you still want the ALO on Nascent that you bid on? [17-Apr-24 03:17 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Yes, I will be back on Friday. [17-Apr-24 03:18 PM] katinga#0000 ok [18-Apr-24 03:54 AM] mrsmith33#0000 ZV-307b is now Bober [18-Apr-24 08:06 AM] Deleted User#0000 unfortunately [18-Apr-24 08:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 wat [18-Apr-24 08:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 what a horrid name [18-Apr-24 08:37 AM] Deleted User#0000 "beaver" in polish [18-Apr-24 08:38 AM] Deleted User#0000 the guys defence was "it could've been worse" [18-Apr-24 08:39 AM] churavis#0000 It could also have been better [18-Apr-24 08:39 AM] Deleted User#0000 much much better [18-Apr-24 08:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 I mean, not really [18-Apr-24 08:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 we got Elon and asbestos [18-Apr-24 08:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 but otherwise, not any other worse ones [18-Apr-24 08:59 AM] churavis#0000 You're forgetting: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1230518033366126733/image.png?ex=6814cfb9&is=68137e39&hm=d4fee1cafb2696da5f26b89557b24e936de90583b4d7a7627ae1c5fffa01eb16& [18-Apr-24 08:59 AM] churavis#0000 The bar has been set very low [18-Apr-24 08:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 okay okay, that one too. But what can you expect from someone named Kawaii Douchebag [18-Apr-24 09:01 AM] churavis#0000 We had this whole Greek/Roman god's theme going that produced some wonderful names but no one seems to be bothering anymore [18-Apr-24 09:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 Astraeus was a good name {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [18-Apr-24 09:07 AM] katinga#0000 I still like the planet with 'Wet Water' in the name [18-Apr-24 09:14 AM] katinga#0000 I'd probably name a planet some obscure Star Trek reference [18-Apr-24 09:15 AM] katinga#0000 Welcome to Moopsy! [18-Apr-24 10:06 AM] katinga#0000 Then again, TOS did have that Adonis episode [18-Apr-24 09:14 PM] katinga#0000 wtb water on Demeter. ad in LM [18-Apr-24 09:48 PM] exeler#0000 I can make a trip out there to bring some water, gonna take a couple days though [19-Apr-24 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 finally figured out a naming convention for my ships ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1230976738100646031/image.png?ex=6815296c&is=6813d7ec&hm=ab0dabe0d29646385c9ee44238eba9e77f52dbb1c603b61f2399b0cdc62c5e49& [19-Apr-24 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 will take any and all suggestions for future commodity puns [19-Apr-24 05:16 PM] martin1194#0000 How can I find an excel for planet infrasturstment? [19-Apr-24 05:17 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1231005694459777054/image.png?ex=68149ba4&is=68134a24&hm=6dbf90133088a0152f4c65822c4ddc90681ab953a65b277b420918a9410d6f65& [19-Apr-24 05:23 PM] tuffyless#0000 Do you mean like Archiel's Gov helper? It pinned in the 'space-politics' thread. [19-Apr-24 05:23 PM] tuffyless#0000 If it's of any help, I created this little cheat sheet. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1231007345354604564/image.png?ex=68149d2e&is=68134bae&hm=1800d4c43a7591dea6c8a5ce8673d602607be80f9b350e948d3c125a9672faba& [19-Apr-24 05:29 PM] martin1194#0000 Yes. I am looking for this excel. Thanks mate [19-Apr-24 05:36 PM] tuffyless#0000 yw Congratz winning the run on 648b! [19-Apr-24 05:39 PM] martin1194#0000 u mean governor or CoGC? [19-Apr-24 05:39 PM] tuffyless#0000 Gov of course ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Apr-24 05:39 PM] tuffyless#0000 Aint gunna win that CoGC again! haha [19-Apr-24 05:40 PM] tuffyless#0000 It's been a CoGC voting war there for months [19-Apr-24 05:40 PM] martin1194#0000 Thanks, mate. I just saw no one upkeep the Infrastructure. Then, I try to run the governor and I got it. : D [19-Apr-24 05:51 PM] martin1194#0000 Are u export BER to other player like jvaler? [19-Apr-24 05:54 PM] martin1194#0000 But will see which CoGC will get win later. I try the best to fulfill the population first. [19-Apr-24 05:58 PM] tuffyless#0000 Na, Im a dummy pulling out H2O from rocks there. ISA + EW just isnt enough. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [19-Apr-24 06:05 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I mean, there is a real town in Quebec called Asbestos [19-Apr-24 06:06 PM] churavis#0000 What's wrong with the name "Asbestos"? [19-Apr-24 06:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 is the COGC construction so I can make INS there? ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Apr-24 06:15 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Chemistry [19-Apr-24 06:16 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Also actually it's "Asbestos Lead Asbestos" not just "Asbestos" [19-Apr-24 06:17 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Unless there's another "Asbestos" out there too [19-Apr-24 06:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 nope, just the one apparently. what a friendly name [19-Apr-24 06:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 i'm just counting down the days until someone names a planet industrial hellscape [19-Apr-24 06:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 there are some planets that I would pay real actual money to rename [19-Apr-24 06:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 but I can understand why that isn't an option [19-Apr-24 06:21 PM] tuffyless#0000 any idea if the names will carryover to the next universe? [19-Apr-24 06:24 PM] martin1194#0000 Next universe mean rewrite the whole server? [19-Apr-24 06:25 PM] tuffyless#0000 yeh. the game is still early access or beta or whatever. [19-Apr-24 06:25 PM] tuffyless#0000 this now is like the 2nd universe? Maybe the 3rd, dunno [19-Apr-24 06:26 PM] martin1194#0000 What time is the last rewrite? [19-Apr-24 06:26 PM] tuffyless#0000 Think this universe is little over 3 years old [19-Apr-24 06:26 PM] Deleted User#0000 universe 8* {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ [19-Apr-24 06:27 PM] tuffyless#0000 holy cows! didnt realize that many [19-Apr-24 06:43 PM] churavis#0000 The devs have said that they won't be starting a new universe for a while since it's a lot of work and they've stabilized the servers so the data is less likely to become too corrupted. [19-Apr-24 06:45 PM] churavis#0000 They've also said that planet names will carry over, although there's no guarantee that a name will end up on a similar or even relevant planet (e.g. Apothecary) [19-Apr-24 06:49 PM] draconisdomini#0000 So Asbestos Lead Asbestos could end up as an agricultural planet [19-Apr-24 06:51 PM] tuffyless#0000 And Vulcan for Foody or Hephaestus for Chemical. Just wouldnt make sense ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Apr-24 06:53 PM] tuffyless#0000 Maybe Elon could get corrected with Electronics tho haha [19-Apr-24 06:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 nature is healing ๐Ÿ˜Œ [19-Apr-24 06:54 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Or Resource Extraction for a gas planet {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-Apr-24 07:23 PM] churavis#0000 I mean, asbestos was a wonderful fire-retardant, that's why it was in everything for a time. I'm sure our pioneers would rather be slowly poisoned than suddenly burned to death [19-Apr-24 07:26 PM] exeler#0000 Just don't snort it and you'll be fiiiine [19-Apr-24 07:27 PM] churavis#0000 What if I'm trying to prevent my nose from lighting on fire? [19-Apr-24 07:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 Truly the important questions [19-Apr-24 07:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 I feel like there's an argument that prosperous universe is a post-apocalyptic dystopia. no one gets paid but us CEOs, everyone eats bars of vegetables and grains. if you work hard, you get flavor. and there's like 200 million people max in the universe [19-Apr-24 07:29 PM] churavis#0000 It's only a dystopia for some people..... [19-Apr-24 07:30 PM] exeler#0000 Not to mention the 24 hour shifts with no days off [19-Apr-24 07:31 PM] churavis#0000 I don't remember anything about 24 hour shifts. I assumed they were rotating shifts to allow the equipment to be used 24/7 even if the workers rotate [19-Apr-24 07:32 PM] exeler#0000 True, could be that. And missing 10% pop slowing things for a short order down by 10% is just 10% of the equipment not able to be staffed? [19-Apr-24 07:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, missing 10% of the hours you need to staff it day-round [19-Apr-24 07:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll choose to believe that for my own peace of mind. Everyone just does 12s 7 days a week ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Apr-24 07:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh, and the only thing the government does is supply office supplies and posters about how you should work harder (on most planets) [19-Apr-24 07:35 PM] exeler#0000 And the leaders all trade seats like chore lists rather than some important role [19-Apr-24 07:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 But on the upside, no income tax for workers! [19-Apr-24 07:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 But on the downside, no income for workers ๐Ÿ˜” [19-Apr-24 08:00 PM] zipatsu#0000 That's why all the luxury drinkable consumables for the workers above pioneer level intelligence are alcohol based, keeps them from figuring it out โœŒ๏ธ [20-Apr-24 10:28 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Joined the server. [20-Apr-24 10:55 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 yo [20-Apr-24 10:55 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Is there many people in here that mainly focus on chemistry/plastics? [20-Apr-24 10:57 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 just kinda trying to guage where i can help really. Currently running a PG operation out of ZV-759D and looking to set up a manufacturing base on Hephaestus to produce plastic sheet types and PE. [20-Apr-24 11:04 AM] sidepipe#0000 The extent of my chemistry is CL on griffonstone and a base on Elon entirely devoted to DDT. I think others probably have more in-depth operations ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Apr-24 11:06 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Yeah, like i make MG, FLX & CL/NA on there too, bit of a mixed operation tbh ๐Ÿ˜… [20-Apr-24 11:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 nothing wrong with that! I have a lot of 1 product megabases because it's easier on my poor brain {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [20-Apr-24 11:11 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Yeah that's fair, i'm just trying to become self sufficient and produce all the niche things where i can lol [20-Apr-24 11:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 one more useful thing I forgot to share - this spreadsheet has all the corporate prices for different MATs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=489658022 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,ZV-307e,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,Electronica,QJ-382g # OF BASES >>,7,10,15,6,15,1,10,4,4,1,2,17,10,6,9,8,5,2,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1hD41YlMP8g9GeHiFfFddtFwEgRXvMRKl5eyxXLA71Y/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyLRHrZef8zYeIIV4jyI6UxyLaQM9b0fJj8rY3dIxrLi4YRnMkXs2VHArA3Mci2ybvA4HwHt1gDQISfsd6JghMRV6GDeWJUk7LOO-m_qgOJlT3uXESoR%3Dw1200-h630-p [20-Apr-24 11:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 Some parts are more or less up-to-date, but it can give you an idea of what all people make (and want to sell to you ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [20-Apr-24 11:26 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 perfect thank you, i'll probably make good use of this for buying LFABS soon [20-Apr-24 11:28 AM] katinga#0000 SI for sale on Vulcan LM [20-Apr-24 11:50 AM] allocater#0000 PG and PE are definitly needed. prices are spiking! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [20-Apr-24 11:51 AM] katinga#0000 Physical Education! yes, kids more exercise these days ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Apr-24 12:07 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-you-look-lonely-bladerunner2049-shika-gif-14199250348474308888 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/bladerunner-you-look-lonely-bladerunner2049-shika-gif-14199250348474308888 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C4HhqGj7pI-4HerdRgq6rThD15yAfwPYEWVQ3HEwDmk/https/media.tenor.com/xQ3e9gmnGRgAAAAe/bladerunner-you-look-lonely.png [20-Apr-24 12:07 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I can fix that [21-Apr-24 06:47 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Iโ€™m slowly filling your AEF order @allocater PG is the pain ๐Ÿซ  [21-Apr-24 06:48 AM] allocater#0000 it's ok to take time, I am just acting as MM [21-Apr-24 06:48 AM] katinga#0000 plain or peanut? ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Apr-24 08:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://tenor.com/vFdj.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/eminem-hey-hello-hi-wave-gif-5124247 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/i-RhzvrbbjjnZ-VXfl1UG8j1kiJVQvTvRVLOS30JCms/https/media.tenor.com/mp15XaYWiooAAAAe/eminem-hey.png [21-Apr-24 09:03 AM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/stitch-lilo-and-ohana-hi-gif-1354856903718586695 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/stitch-lilo-and-ohana-hi-gif-1354856903718586695 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BMQ31RAQXIc9br-tv6yhY1wHsogrErU6gHhkZLift8k/https/media.tenor.com/Es1rLPOhyUcAAAAe/stitch-lilo.png [22-Apr-24 04:39 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @sidepipe it seems my citizens can't get enough of your rations ๐Ÿ˜‰ [22-Apr-24 04:40 PM] katinga#0000 put em on a diet. do they need the number to jenny craig? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [22-Apr-24 04:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I feel like I now cover all my needs in water and food with my own production (and some excess) [22-Apr-24 04:41 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i wish i did but i'm always up for supporting local homie's enterprises [22-Apr-24 04:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 that reminds me - @uncle_leslie69, you get the OOG price now. 70/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [22-Apr-24 04:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 for your next order ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Apr-24 04:42 PM] katinga#0000 I can't talk. mine are always hungry [22-Apr-24 04:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 i have the opposite problems where I'm starting to eat up all of my own RATs [22-Apr-24 04:42 PM] katinga#0000 my citizens are all COF addicts [22-Apr-24 04:43 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Legend ๐Ÿ˜Ž [22-Apr-24 04:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And with excess NS I can make a ton of COF [22-Apr-24 04:44 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Yeah mine are the same, sluts for caffeine [22-Apr-24 04:44 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i spend so much money on COF it's sickening [22-Apr-24 04:44 PM] katinga#0000 same here. [22-Apr-24 04:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm working on COF production in SE-110 as well, so watch this space ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [22-Apr-24 04:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 right now I barely make enough to cover my own needs - trying to expand SE-110A, B, and Ice Station alpha so I don't end up with the same problem I had for FIM production [22-Apr-24 04:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232084983871439001/image.png?ex=6814944f&is=681342cf&hm=de3acd0b366eff4c2655bc550d3b67be8682486887e8541ee198a861054dc41b& [22-Apr-24 04:45 PM] mrsmith33#0000 My HER seem to pile up too [22-Apr-24 04:46 PM] katinga#0000 over 750 at ANT. my experts should be happy enough with Folgers! not Starbucks! [22-Apr-24 04:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 gotta get that nescafe classic to save on shipping space ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Apr-24 04:46 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I guess it is time to upgrade my 3000t ships to LHP {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [22-Apr-24 04:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 the projects never end ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Apr-24 04:47 PM] katinga#0000 fun fact! like 1 cup of anything from Starbucks is like a quarter of your caloric needs (but not nutritional) [22-Apr-24 04:48 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And producing my own BHP/LHP is a bit too much. Too much consumption/production just from a single building. [22-Apr-24 04:48 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I've jujst sold a bunch of C so now i can buy the remaining Lfabs for my Manufacturing base ๐Ÿ˜Ž [22-Apr-24 04:48 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 PSL here we come [22-Apr-24 04:49 PM] katinga#0000 dude. if you need to unload some C, lemme know. I go through a ton when I smelt SIO [22-Apr-24 04:50 PM] mrsmith33#0000 My C smelting is not keeping up {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232086114811117638/image.png?ex=6814955c&is=681343dc&hm=b1be78bad3a2e5179631f081deb40b5b328e3752d38709378939457e6a44c157& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’€ ๐Ÿ‘€ (2) [22-Apr-24 04:50 PM] katinga#0000 which I don't really get. Si isn't a metal, so why am I smelting SIO? [22-Apr-24 04:51 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 yeah i'm the same, i produce more HCP than i can burn through, wish INC were faster or there was an upgraded building to do it quicker [22-Apr-24 04:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 And I reduced the number of INC to add more HAL mining [22-Apr-24 04:51 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 would make more sense to melt SIO in a glass factory no? [22-Apr-24 04:52 PM] katinga#0000 yeah? Silicon is like the major component of sand. you apply heat and it turns into glass. Silicon is right below Carbon on the periodic table as a non metal [22-Apr-24 04:54 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Yeah exactly, so you would have thought the dev's would have made SIO smelt in a glass factory but apparently not ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [22-Apr-24 04:55 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i need to get the last part of this order filled {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232087292416491571/image.png?ex=68149675&is=681344f5&hm=ab03a44250e75bc14f33aead681fb0f5e52fae044d4954a0c9756ab940aa5e8b& [22-Apr-24 04:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 I can spot you 2 LTA at ANT [22-Apr-24 04:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 i bought a bunch a while back and I can't remember what for [22-Apr-24 04:56 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i was gonna put in a bunch of orders but idk what is a reasonable price lol [22-Apr-24 04:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 i usually just go with what's in the corporate sheet or whatever the last order was for them [22-Apr-24 04:57 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 where was that pinned again? [22-Apr-24 04:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 i thought it was pinned in #bank-of-oog , but i don't see it there. here's the link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,ZV-307e,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,Electronica,QJ-382g # OF BASES >>,7,10,15,6,15,1,10,4,4,1,2,17,10,6,9,8,5,2,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/J3XQR6ki8IbZSXYXHjVgPZ4QGnDKOPvY4xzQt0Nld5k/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyJOrdlGuNrzz-uqSjynhx-8fq5luBHjo2B9PnADFlnuTwl4fPgfpTBSs_7ZxPxjwQoGTBwy4UIrzvskOKcVlgoz7gmNBlz763AsyQAh18TVtfa3l49D%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [22-Apr-24 04:58 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 thanks, i'll take a look [22-Apr-24 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 This time you can send everything but the LTA right to me using those prices [22-Apr-24 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 fresh outta LTA, but the rest is on ANT [22-Apr-24 04:59 PM] churavis#0000 I've got plenty of LTA and everything else on ANT [22-Apr-24 05:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 perfect, i'll send the contracts over folks! ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Apr-24 05:02 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm almost at HQ level 22 {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [22-Apr-24 05:02 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 wait, what prices? only people that did produce Lfabs are retired? [22-Apr-24 05:02 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232089232126902323/image.png?ex=68149844&is=681346c4&hm=fd414e9a752256427fef041d056b007ff691e8f03a679c41d3435ceb094d738f& [22-Apr-24 05:03 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i don't see your lfab prices on the sheet? [22-Apr-24 05:04 PM] churavis#0000 You can use those prices but send the contracts to me or Archiel [22-Apr-24 05:04 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 ahh alright, thanks! [22-Apr-24 05:04 PM] churavis#0000 I just ran out of space in the ANT and Nike column [22-Apr-24 05:04 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 lol [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Uhh use those lol [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] churavis#0000 I figured it was more important to list all the specialty MAT's only I sell [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] katinga#0000 22? my HQ is a measley lvl 8 [22-Apr-24 05:05 PM] churavis#0000 https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/NFNeWc9X54F9xs4-2Wee989hBvsMkh743mHr6d3LquA/https/media.tenor.com/8CPvdgIHcZ4AAAAe/rookie-numbers.png [22-Apr-24 05:09 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 perfect, that's all those contracts sent ๐Ÿ˜Ž [22-Apr-24 05:10 PM] katinga#0000 I'm lower middle class ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [22-Apr-24 05:11 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 me and you are both 8 homie, we in the same basket [22-Apr-24 05:15 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i'll have my manufacturing base up within the end of the week ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [22-Apr-24 05:45 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-cheers-the-great-gatsby-coupe-glass-toast-gif-10657915 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-cheers-the-great-gatsby-coupe-glass-toast-gif-10657915 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mlrBbiOoLPZaWDIel6NRa13D69nG5SOaX2EsobnzdsI/https/media.tenor.com/mqzuK_iOjzYAAAAe/leonardo-dicaprio-cheers.png [23-Apr-24 07:44 AM] katinga#0000 I'll buy some from you if you're selling [23-Apr-24 07:53 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I just sold 600 ๐Ÿ’€sorry bro Iโ€™m fresh out of stock {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [23-Apr-24 08:51 AM] katinga#0000 grow some more! [23-Apr-24 10:56 AM] Deleted User#0000 this is the way [23-Apr-24 11:36 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have 30 extra BID if anyone needs them for infra [24-Apr-24 11:08 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Maybe we should have an ability to specify who will create a contract, when fulfilling an order? [24-Apr-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, it wouldn't be bad if they weren't so tedious [24-Apr-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 but auctions are the real annoyance ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Apr-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 also we still need an "AT ANY PRICE" order setting {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Apr-24 01:46 PM] exeler#0000 I think defaulting to the person selling the thing sends the contract works out okay. Or, in other words - Whoever clicks a button that results in a valid trade sends the contract. For auctions that's whoever clicks finish since the amounts aren't known until a its over. For orders, that's whoever is fulfilling the order since the amount is known as soon as someone signs up to provide. Otherwise if we flip it then the people who bid on an auction need to come back to a discord message regularly to see if the auction is done or not. Same with orders. The person who placed the order would need to come back regularly to the discord message and see if it was clicked on or not. In both of these cases there's no guarantee so the constant "polling" of the message is often wasted time. There absolutely is a case for BASIC licenses who can't send contracts but want to fulfill an order or run an auction though. I'd want to add a feature for this use case that doesn't create overhead for the more typical use case. [24-Apr-24 02:43 PM] zipatsu#0000 Would it be possible to add a NOTE optional option to the command like the currency option? It could be used to, if desired, add a short bit of text at the end to inform people that they'll have to be the one to send the contract / give a rough estimate of delivery or production time etc ? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ’ฏ [24-Apr-24 02:54 PM] allocater#0000 If ships could be pirated, I would be scared now [24-Apr-24 02:54 PM] allocater#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232781858266288178/image.png?ex=68152312&is=6813d192&hm=dbc89e48bb480071174c50f4ec792b0d9125c1a72056113ed73b969277186b8c& [24-Apr-24 02:55 PM] churavis#0000 That's quite the spanish galleon you've got there [24-Apr-24 02:56 PM] katinga#0000 That's worth getting podded in nullsec {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [24-Apr-24 03:09 PM] katinga#0000 JK ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Apr-24 03:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 I imagine you've flown ships around with 2k EDC in them too ๐Ÿ˜„ [24-Apr-24 04:11 PM] melon164#0000 https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/855489711635431475/1204186675228450826 [24-Apr-24 04:11 PM] melon164#0000 The day before the recent nerf ๐Ÿ˜ฐ [24-Apr-24 06:56 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Think if and when i do become stable enough to become governor of a planet i have one in mind [24-Apr-24 06:56 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1232842557382332507/image.png?ex=6814b2da&is=6813615a&hm=d63546cf6112d5c4f1d9b0010b99f53d043559e8a4defa8917dbe868c0f334c4& [24-Apr-24 06:56 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Already got a base here making H & C [24-Apr-24 07:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 You'll have to make a planetary admin center first ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Apr-24 09:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I could throw an ADM there anytime. EXT planets are pretty easy to govern, they practically run themselves [24-Apr-24 09:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 just lemme know {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [25-Apr-24 02:07 AM] allocater#0000 whats happening another EDC IDC nerf? [25-Apr-24 02:35 AM] melon164#0000 I mean the one back in February. I was flying a pile of IDC over to Hortus to buy RAT, was a little worried the cargo was going to devalue by 10M in flight ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [25-Apr-24 02:36 AM] allocater#0000 ah yeah ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Apr-24 07:34 AM] katinga#0000 what's the alphanumeric for Elon? [25-Apr-24 07:46 AM] mrsmith33#0000 QJ-650c [25-Apr-24 08:27 AM] katinga#0000 ty [25-Apr-24 08:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 to check yourself do `PLI Elon` [25-Apr-24 09:22 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Game needs a timer of 1 minute before the ship departs, so I can cancel the flight and add items that I forgot to send. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [25-Apr-24 09:24 AM] churavis#0000 Just pretend you hit it and then come back in a minute {Reactions} ๐Ÿซ  (4) [25-Apr-24 09:24 AM] mrsmith33#0000 nah, the brain only remembers stuff once I actually hit the button {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  [25-Apr-24 09:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, the number of times I sent something from ANT to somewhere far off, only to not be able to recall for 2 hours ๐Ÿ˜ข [25-Apr-24 09:47 AM] katinga#0000 yeah like... engines gotta warm up from a cold start [25-Apr-24 09:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Alternatively, when ship is taking off of planet and you cancel, the ship with only finish the takeoff (which is usually ~5mins) [25-Apr-24 09:50 AM] churavis#0000 Only until we get space elevators... [25-Apr-24 10:27 AM] Deleted User#0000 i'd like it if you could set a manual delay time of like, say, 5 minutes, before a ship would begin to take off [25-Apr-24 10:27 AM] Deleted User#0000 yes of course you'd wait longer before your ship leaves, but at the same time, having that grace period to cancel the flight with no delay whatsoever would be amazing [25-Apr-24 10:45 AM] domicius#0000 That's why you need good cargo manifests [25-Apr-24 10:45 AM] domicius#0000 Make a list, check it twice, if you fail, curse and cry {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข [25-Apr-24 10:50 AM] Deleted User#0000 or.. just the ability to set a grace period to cancel and then you wouldn't need to curse and cry, lmao [25-Apr-24 10:50 AM] Deleted User#0000 just a simple qol thing that should 100% be in the game imo [25-Apr-24 11:05 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Hephaestus base up and running, PSL by tomorrow ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [25-Apr-24 11:05 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I forgot about some BSE so just pumping out PT for now [26-Apr-24 07:24 AM] katinga#0000 @exeler are you okay? [26-Apr-24 10:11 AM] exeler#0000 Yeah, what makes you ask? [26-Apr-24 10:17 AM] katinga#0000 you keep terminating our contracts [26-Apr-24 03:29 PM] allocater#0000 I think we slacked on the invites again, Katinga invited {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (8) [26-Apr-24 04:42 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 PSL is flowing ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [26-Apr-24 04:43 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Now just to stock up to provide for the homies [26-Apr-24 05:24 PM] exeler#0000 Oh, was there another one? There should've just been one bad contract I sent out for an auction (accidentally put the entire auction worth instead of the divided amounts). If there's another contract that got terminated or cancelled that you cared about let me know and I'll resend it. [26-Apr-24 05:35 PM] katinga#0000 This one? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1233547064508682371/image.png?ex=68149ffa&is=68134e7a&hm=7a79448e51330a8681aa606fb2a20554686218daa5dd9d013e32266ff1287074& [26-Apr-24 05:40 PM] katinga#0000 and this one {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1233548219494170708/image.png?ex=6814a10d&is=68134f8d&hm=ad503cada111bb3713705d410e009f83b5b10a4356afc5180ade2ed9e04e8272& [26-Apr-24 05:50 PM] exeler#0000 Cancelled I think implies it wasn't accepted in time. [26-Apr-24 05:50 PM] exeler#0000 Is that termination requested? I don't think I've logged in since you accepted this one if that screenshot is from just now [26-Apr-24 05:51 PM] churavis#0000 Yeah, they really ought to have a different status for things that just aren't accepted before the time limit, like "Expired" [26-Apr-24 06:02 PM] katinga#0000 they do that with LM ads [27-Apr-24 10:24 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I think once I have potentially have a 3rd ship Iโ€™ll look at running for gov on a planet, feel like Iโ€™ve just got too much logistics going on atm ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ [28-Apr-24 06:52 AM] donmega1983#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (6) [29-Apr-24 10:21 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone need BRM? I have at least 1500 excess [29-Apr-24 10:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 Send me 1000 on ANT/griff [29-Apr-24 10:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Apr-24 10:31 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I will take it (ANT/ZV-639d) [29-Apr-24 10:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah didn't think there'd be much interest haha [29-Apr-24 10:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 Visitors to the park an university on malahat love eating the soil and REA made from BRM [29-Apr-24 11:13 AM] katinga#0000 don't they put BRM in pepto bismol? [29-Apr-24 11:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 That would explain why BRM is pink [29-Apr-24 11:39 AM] churavis#0000 I thought the whole point of pepto bismol was to make things, uh, less reactive [29-Apr-24 11:41 AM] katinga#0000 it's the one that coats [29-Apr-24 12:28 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I just realised I been here 9 days [29-Apr-24 12:29 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Anniversary time [29-Apr-24 12:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 Not just anniversary time, official invite time! [29-Apr-24 12:38 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 AyO [29-Apr-24 12:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 That is, if you want to join the in-game corp. I think you'd need to leave the one you're in. But in either case, I changed your role to OOG Shareholder. Welcome to OOG (officially) ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Apr-24 12:41 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Yeah Iโ€™m all good with that, the one Iโ€™m in just me and a mate, we have no plans of doing anything with it lol [29-Apr-24 12:41 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Thanks man ๐Ÿ™‚ Iโ€™ll join tonight when I get home [29-Apr-24 12:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 Sounds good! I can't send the invite until you leave the corp, so just @ me when you're back and I'll send it ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Apr-24 12:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 Is anyone here willing to sell me 2-3M CIS for AIC? [29-Apr-24 12:57 PM] churavis#0000 I'll do this right now if you make the contracts but for future reference the bank does currency transfers [29-Apr-24 12:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Good to know, thank you! I'll send the contracts - is 3M CIS for 3M AIC okay? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [29-Apr-24 05:01 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @sidepipe i'm ready for that inv now ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [29-Apr-24 06:35 PM] Deleted User#0000 welcome [29-Apr-24 06:55 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-welcome-to-mine-welcome-party-saymine-gif-21371930 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-welcome-to-mine-welcome-party-saymine-gif-21371930 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Bm4qSe5PtpbYbnAjSSq0Jh0xVUMce2OoVZPhSPvX6Ws/https/media.tenor.com/9TijaMuFY1wAAAAe/welcome-welcome-to.png [29-Apr-24 08:25 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Somehow I don't think this contract would ever get completed... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1234676880439771166/image.png?ex=6814c7b3&is=68137633&hm=760680b44dd89e5e979fa068996602ef5b22fac235be0ec6746e35623d6640ba& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [01-May-24 04:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235348344449269871/image.png?ex=6814960c&is=6813448c&hm=a3842a7b96a3bf8fdb2a80b13a58f20078590931f93c7c9d368f910592add306& [01-May-24 04:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235348389990764614/image.png?ex=68149617&is=68134497&hm=7927a136bcb32a5db74ed3cea29df0c24b2c138ac2dbb443b6668b35fd23444f& [01-May-24 04:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 I am confused by this action ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 04:54 PM] churavis#0000 He bought your water just to sell it at the same price? [01-May-24 04:54 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 buy it back to sell it at the same price ๐Ÿ˜ˆ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ˆ [01-May-24 05:02 PM] churavis#0000 That would be funny, but he's now taking on the risk that it doesn't sell for no benefit [01-May-24 05:02 PM] zipatsu#0000 I was thinking of just leaving it be but I like the idea of doing that for no other reason than because I can as I don't really use NCC for much ๐Ÿ˜‚ [01-May-24 05:03 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235351000966238298/image.png?ex=68149886&is=68134706&hm=14914f79cca72e2f93439f5893649462156727511303039164e448382ebf76b9& [01-May-24 05:06 PM] zipatsu#0000 I suppose there's the possibility that he did it just to hopefully make me buy all of it back in order to sell that ~60k H2O at 31 instead of my listed 30.90 buy price, not really sure what other reason there'd be for relisting it for 0 profit [01-May-24 05:07 PM] exeler#0000 I mean, won't doing this make the volume for the day look pretty wild? It'd be funny to start a bunch of these ping pong matches all over the CXs [01-May-24 05:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 that sweet sweet 6k of profit {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:11 PM] zipatsu#0000 My heart goes to the poor warehouse employees that are tasked with hauling all that water back and forth between the same area just to satisfy that game ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 speaking of warehouse, if you don't mind me asking - is your ANT warehouse just a solid block of H2O? I always wondered if you had it all listed or more in storage [01-May-24 05:15 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235353892150186104/image.png?ex=68149b37&is=681349b7&hm=4aa6ff606de97e1f9c91965bda3d48bd521fa6a72fa69d48d1c2b0e2690cc820& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235353892565287014/image.png?ex=68149b37&is=681349b7&hm=16e1b2e85beb9d18ef9211ce11f8e53f220c7f7b24931ee037c245d60b205aa4& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235353893010149447/image.png?ex=68149b37&is=681349b7&hm=241875bdfc287a63a3f677bc841901e98d471be005f15d75adae7aed7f444920& [01-May-24 05:16 PM] zipatsu#0000 Don't mind at all, I mostly just relist the buys and sells every week or so or when it gets below 100k on sale [01-May-24 05:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 ah, make sense ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-May-24 05:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 i had this picture in my mind of some random stuff and then 5 million h2o ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 If it hits around 200k on sale I'll probably start holding some in storage just in case someone buys it all up again but so far that hasn't really been an issue apart from one player who bought everything I had listed a while back only to sell it back to me at a 0.10 / each loss shortly after ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 That could've been a thing had I not decided to branch out to Moria as well as people kept buying my stock on ANT to sell there :p [01-May-24 05:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 that sweet sweet 0.25% loss [01-May-24 05:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 the ANT water is just too good [01-May-24 05:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 anyway, thank you for satisfying my curiosity ๐Ÿ™‚ the only thing I trade a ton of is DDT, and that sees maybe 30 or 40 trades a day in ANT tops [01-May-24 05:21 PM] zipatsu#0000 I've mostly covered all the nearby-ish planets so I'm currently working on gathering all the materials needed to build a CoGC, Warehouse, Popi and SST on GM-498a [01-May-24 05:22 PM] zipatsu#0000 And then hope that it doesn't end up getting hijacked for the Helium / Galerite there once I get a Pioneer population going ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:25 PM] zipatsu#0000 No problem โœŒ๏ธ H2O does see a fair amount of sales so it's nice being able to supply it at what I hope is a reasonable price, someone suggested at some point that it was a plot to make COF cheaper somehow but really my only goal is to provide affordable H2O for (mostly) newer players to do whatever they want with without having to sacrifice space for rigs [01-May-24 05:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 it's a plot by big H2O to sell more hydration [01-May-24 05:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 clearly ๐Ÿ˜› [01-May-24 05:30 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/villain-chillin-like-a-villain-smile-gif-12338657 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/villain-chillin-like-a-villain-smile-gif-12338657 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nrMVCcwmlIcK2uT9LELae8ARLdxnAhehfwoNVCkgo6I/https/media.tenor.com/_1AXmAUNVmkAAAAe/villain-chillin-like-a-villain.png [01-May-24 05:50 PM] exeler#0000 Your warehouse is a lot neater than mine ๐Ÿ˜… [01-May-24 05:52 PM] zipatsu#0000 I try to keep it organized as much as I can, only reason for 80% of the stuff there right now is because of the plan to settle a new planet ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 Normally it's just enough materials to fit on one line to make it less of a pain moving things to and from the ships {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235363513682366508/image.png?ex=6814a42d&is=681352ad&hm=e915c9e481ee7354398e7669ef112988aa65f0e7b23a3c0303bd80cd6f864c83& [01-May-24 05:53 PM] Deleted User#0000 default commodity colours [01-May-24 05:54 PM] Deleted User#0000 what a rarity [01-May-24 05:54 PM] zipatsu#0000 I play through Steam, am aware it's the insanity option ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-May-24 05:54 PM] Deleted User#0000 more power to you [01-May-24 05:54 PM] Deleted User#0000 still, I hate the luxury consumable colour regardless [01-May-24 05:55 PM] zipatsu#0000 The colours could do with an update for sure [01-May-24 05:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have a bad habit of making plans for a production line, buying inputs, and then forgetting about it, so my ANT warehouse is a nightmare [01-May-24 06:00 PM] melon164#0000 I make sure not to only buy my inputs 30s ~~before~~ after the ship leaves ๐Ÿ˜‚ [01-May-24 06:01 PM] zipatsu#0000 Can always pretend that you're investing in items waiting for the price to increase one day haha {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  [01-May-24 06:02 PM] zipatsu#0000 That's a smart idea, feels terrible when you send your ship out and then notice one key item left behind turning that 2 second mistake into a 3 hour wait for the ship to turn back around ๐Ÿ˜… [01-May-24 06:17 PM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” That was actually supposed to be a joke at my own expense at how often I do precisely that (leave materials on the dock-side), but it seems the biggest joke is my grammar ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-May-24 05:15 PM] darjaves#0000 Just a little question, why is on Etherwind (KW-688c) the Fertility -21,21% for H20? What does that say about the production? [02-May-24 05:17 PM] darjaves#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235716900387033098/image.png?ex=68149bcb&is=68134a4b&hm=8da8016471a6b2028d998749d1ac350036109ccfe9e693d00f0f7840f0b149d3& [02-May-24 05:18 PM] darjaves#0000 for example rn on Harmonia it's -3.14 or something [02-May-24 05:19 PM] tuffyless#0000 The Fertility applies to FRM & ORC's. On Harmonia, it is 97% rounded up. So 100%-3.14% {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235717220227616768/image.png?ex=68149c17&is=68134a97&hm=7222a750990633104e5f75dcee4047ca4b09bb53b2c937c086abff8787dee54a& [02-May-24 05:19 PM] darjaves#0000 So, is it better for h20 production on harm or eth because [02-May-24 05:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 doesn't effect H2O [02-May-24 05:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 that column shows up on all searches I think [02-May-24 05:20 PM] darjaves#0000 because here we have more liquid {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235717507973775460/image.png?ex=68149c5c&is=68134adc&hm=39547c13a3b7b7248e6e8b61829fa28819b4e080c4d912946adb287bd7a7b838& [02-May-24 05:20 PM] darjaves#0000 on et [02-May-24 05:20 PM] darjaves#0000 harmonia is that sorry [02-May-24 05:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, for any resource just look at the raw number. Etherwind is 42 flat [02-May-24 05:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 ISA is like 53 or something, and Harmonia is idk 17? I haven't checked in a while [02-May-24 05:21 PM] darjaves#0000 and harmonia is like 25.7 [02-May-24 05:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah yeah, not great, but it does something [02-May-24 05:22 PM] darjaves#0000 So that does matter a lot in production? [02-May-24 05:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 Fertility? No, fertility only matters in ORC or FRM outputs - not HYF [02-May-24 05:22 PM] darjaves#0000 Ye, i mean the Raw number you talked about [02-May-24 05:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh yeah, that's the only thing that matters [02-May-24 05:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 the website is converting for you and telling you how much a RIG will get out per day [02-May-24 05:23 PM] darjaves#0000 The Fio you mean [02-May-24 05:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 well fio is a website ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-May-24 05:23 PM] darjaves#0000 ahha, ok ok [02-May-24 05:24 PM] darjaves#0000 so for example on deimos we have a -10% +- so does that effect alo? Or Just ORC FRM? [02-May-24 05:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 fertility only affects ORC and FRM [02-May-24 05:24 PM] darjaves#0000 ok o [02-May-24 05:26 PM] darjaves#0000 How do i find those planets? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235719208277643314/image.png?ex=68149df1&is=68134c71&hm=da4f03ba5dd854f7e108f4e13d74846001f81a0912c5543ef5022df6d4c4bdb4& [02-May-24 05:27 PM] tuffyless#0000 and be mindful what form H2O comes in. Liquid, Atmospheric, and Mineral. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235719232528846868/image.png?ex=68149df7&is=68134c77&hm=4233b02879179ae018addef5d428d7d054aa86161dccb7ee069e91d74af8530a& [02-May-24 05:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think FIO converts it for you based on type [02-May-24 05:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 RIG is always the best {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [02-May-24 05:27 PM] tuffyless#0000 EXT is worst I think. [02-May-24 05:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 empty PLI window [02-May-24 05:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 wish we had some liquid metal planets {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [02-May-24 05:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 that'd be cool [02-May-24 05:28 PM] darjaves#0000 you mean a bfr [02-May-24 05:28 PM] darjaves#0000 new [02-May-24 05:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235719707789889607/image.png?ex=68149e68&is=68134ce8&hm=2eaf1c23f76f7c189bfb489f4dd107b4bc97fedc60363c4f4240849bfa069250& [02-May-24 05:28 PM] darjaves#0000 because that planet has no LM [02-May-24 05:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 ~~just means it's unpopulated - every planet with a pop has an LM~~ I'm making stuff up nvm [02-May-24 05:29 PM] darjaves#0000 Got it [02-May-24 05:29 PM] darjaves#0000 so that means you cannot to anything on there? [02-May-24 05:30 PM] darjaves#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235720029752922213/image.png?ex=68149eb5&is=68134d35&hm=07bcce3dae5699a43d2e91ae029a97351f537954dd41c29ec6327520b3e5cc0e& [02-May-24 05:30 PM] darjaves#0000 Because for LST it's very good [02-May-24 05:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 I mean you can colonize any planet [02-May-24 05:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 I forgot LMs are a building ๐Ÿ˜• [02-May-24 05:31 PM] darjaves#0000 oh [02-May-24 05:31 PM] darjaves#0000 So you mean that those planet's have like no owner? Is that what u emply? [02-May-24 05:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 just that they're less well populated [02-May-24 05:33 PM] darjaves#0000 and the pop can grow? [02-May-24 05:33 PM] darjaves#0000 Kinda new to this kinda stuff (different planets) [02-May-24 05:35 PM] tuffyless#0000 yes pop's can grow on that planet. You can type in a new buffer: **POPR YK-715C** to see the metrics. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235721424631763086/image.png?ex=6814a002&is=68134e82&hm=1af8922805eb08a577059c73380af87ca9058f0a55b8e878cdf5d05e26a9dcc0& [02-May-24 05:37 PM] darjaves#0000 Are there a set of planets that exist are there planets like not yet in the game but will be added later or are there a vast amout in the universe if you understand the question [02-May-24 05:38 PM] tuffyless#0000 dunno if new ones ewill be added. [02-May-24 05:38 PM] tuffyless#0000 and you can see in FIO that there are a vast amount of them currently [02-May-24 05:40 PM] darjaves#0000 okey, so one more question for now, hh, i produce BBH atm, but idk if that is the smartest thing to do, i'm looking in the market and see other nice things but idk, it's working fine now i'm earning lots of money. (enough) [02-May-24 05:43 PM] darjaves#0000 And also I asked for the eth planet because I make my own dw. [02-May-24 05:43 PM] darjaves#0000 And maybe I get more out of it there then on harm [02-May-24 05:45 PM] tuffyless#0000 You'll definitely squeeze more H2O from Etherwind than Harmonia. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ƒ [02-May-24 05:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 RAT production always the best I think [02-May-24 05:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 or DW [02-May-24 05:46 PM] darjaves#0000 Well RAT is nice but more work [02-May-24 05:46 PM] darjaves#0000 I will check it out. ^ I mean you need it everywhere [02-May-24 05:47 PM] tuffyless#0000 Grow the stuff, to make the RAT, on Harmonia using FRMs. Get H2O from Etherwind, to make DW. Use Deimos to get ALO-->AL to keep making the Bfabs. [02-May-24 05:47 PM] tuffyless#0000 Theres uncountable number of ways to do it {Reactions} โœ… [02-May-24 05:49 PM] darjaves#0000 Okey, sure so I'll keep producing my BBH or should I better go for the rbh [02-May-24 05:49 PM] darjaves#0000 Or other R fabs [02-May-24 05:50 PM] tuffyless#0000 Suspect that the demand for Bfabs is more than Rfabs [02-May-24 05:50 PM] churavis#0000 If you want to keep upgrading your HQ, you'll eventually need to make your own Afabs as well as Rfabs [02-May-24 05:51 PM] darjaves#0000 Well HQ is for more bases right? [02-May-24 05:51 PM] darjaves#0000 Or like sort of benefits [02-May-24 05:51 PM] darjaves#0000 I can make 7 I think rn and it's based on Nike [02-May-24 05:51 PM] churavis#0000 Either one [02-May-24 05:51 PM] tuffyless#0000 right, more bases. Each HQ upgrade gives you another Permit [02-May-24 05:52 PM] darjaves#0000 So its only ness if you need more bases? Further no benefits? [02-May-24 05:52 PM] churavis#0000 For Antares, free base permits also increase the efficiency of your electronics industry [02-May-24 05:54 PM] tuffyless#0000 For neutral, you get Chem, Fuel, ResExt. Guess it's a benefit but eh. Kinda/Sorta. Seems kinda small to me considering the costs to upgrade. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235726039922118686/image.png?ex=6814a44e&is=681352ce&hm=50f1f56595bbff1ae2f27804135b2705d247f38b950cab491a6c3052255fa42d& [02-May-24 05:55 PM] darjaves#0000 So.. does it matter on what planet it's based? [02-May-24 05:55 PM] darjaves#0000 For the gains [02-May-24 05:55 PM] tuffyless#0000 Yes. Like Churaviis said, if its based on a planet in ANT, then thats 10% Electronics. If neutral, then its Chem/Fuel/ResExt. [02-May-24 05:56 PM] tuffyless#0000 Check this out: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/headquarters/index.html {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235726624167825408/image.png?ex=6814a4d9&is=68135359&hm=4d0349ffa03d569742cfc1a13ee0529a0801637e09d4ea54c3d106d4cfe51d37& {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/headquarters/index.html Headquarters :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [02-May-24 05:56 PM] darjaves#0000 Hmm okey. But u don't have the electronics rn I think [02-May-24 05:57 PM] darjaves#0000 Or I am stupid ๐Ÿ˜‚ [02-May-24 05:57 PM] darjaves#0000 Idk [02-May-24 05:57 PM] darjaves#0000 It's like a higher sort of pioneer right? [02-May-24 06:00 PM] tuffyless#0000 The bonus simply get's added into the total factors. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235727639000645745/image.png?ex=6814a5cb&is=6813544b&hm=db1de3e3dcb3239fe3b1cee501fe9170c66f80174fd090c4ebff126400ed18dd& [03-May-24 01:55 AM] exeler#0000 Sneak preview of a new feature coming to the bot, didn't have enough time tonight to do everything in one sitting, but it's getting pretty close (just need to add some buttons to actually interact with it) I also plan on having commands to create and load template projects as well. So we could store all of our standard ship configurations as templates and it'd be a super simple command to throw down a bulk order for all the parts for one. Could work for bases, hq upgrades, warehouse upgrades, etc as well. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235847206523633735/image.png?ex=68151526&is=6813c3a6&hm=7174decf5af5bc40359021313ff2ec628ff3532b36cb2cccc94c3bc888c29c3b& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1235847207043862578/image.png?ex=68151527&is=6813c3a7&hm=de5d4b741bab00db4d2a64453b57cd228d8747d637b85150e5735b6bc7372b92& [03-May-24 01:59 AM] exeler#0000 An interesting thing I'm going to try out for this is that prices and currencies are optional when setting up the project. So you could just put down a list of materials, then let the people with the goods propose prices that the project owner can then review and accept/reject. If you do set a price up front like in the example I showed, then the negotiating process is cut short and it works essentially the same as /order does. If this is useful enough, I might port that option/mode over to /order as well {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-May-24 03:41 AM] darjaves#0000 Nice job! [03-May-24 06:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 oohh cool [03-May-24 07:51 AM] Deleted User#0000 that sounds extremely useful [03-May-24 07:55 AM] tuffyless#0000 amazing stuff Exeler! [03-May-24 01:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 @archielvahr for the ship stuff, did you figure out you can press up to redo the last auction command and just change a couple args? [03-May-24 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Like for making new /auctions? [03-May-24 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got the spreadsheet to generate the commands now, so that's what I'll be doing [03-May-24 01:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, once you make one it caches it [03-May-24 01:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 but if you have implemented the power of spreadsheets, then that's probably superior ๐Ÿ˜› [03-May-24 01:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-May-24 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 I also have this monstrosity in PRUN for sending the contracts: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_AInqznKswQ.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_AInqznKswQ.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/QbemhJMl9wXQSgX8VMz0hOnPc14W5VxAAqee_QgsHeY/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_AInqznKswQ.png {Reactions} ๐ŸงŒ [03-May-24 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 but it's not great cause entering names is still a ton of clicks [03-May-24 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 ... and scrolling [03-May-24 01:21 PM] churavis#0000 Can't you copy and paste the name? [03-May-24 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yes, but like Material entry fields, you need to click the name in order to validate it in the field, otherwise the send button is greyed out {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅฒ (3) [03-May-24 02:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 If I build a Planetary Administration Center on a planet with just myself on it does that mean I automatically become the governor if I run for it? ๐Ÿค” [03-May-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 You still need to hold a sham election [03-May-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 But you can vote for yourself [03-May-24 03:38 PM] zipatsu#0000 I see, thanks for the information! I've a feeling the people will unilaterally vote for me when the time comes ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ (3) [04-May-24 02:53 AM] domicius#0000 Corpues, I'm on holiday. Expect some delays and drunken mistakes. {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก (3) ๐Ÿน (3) [04-May-24 06:15 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Iโ€™m just gonna slowly mound up stocks of PG/PE for us [04-May-24 02:43 PM] katinga#0000 @neth_havoc you okay, dude? [04-May-24 02:44 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Yes, but you send the wrong contract twice. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [04-May-24 02:44 PM] katinga#0000 No I didn't [04-May-24 02:44 PM] neth_havoc#0000 It's ALO not SIO. [04-May-24 02:44 PM] katinga#0000 I give up [04-May-24 02:45 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Please don't! ๐Ÿ˜… [04-May-24 02:45 PM] katinga#0000 No, I do. this is ticking me off [04-May-24 03:25 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 hello [04-May-24 03:27 PM] bitcoin_ape#0000 i am glad to see that the corporation is still going strong. Hope you have all been enjoying the game. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™‚๏ธ [04-May-24 04:11 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-back-minions-gif-11950499 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-back-minions-gif-11950499 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nC70Oi6MX8PNpP-8Cp7t4ENnk_L1Vi_K1Xu0GqqWl0w/https/media.tenor.com/FjUd6NvVRnMAAAAe/welcome-back-minions.png {Reactions} this (4) [04-May-24 04:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey DLR! ๐Ÿ˜„ Yep, we are as alive and influential as ever! [05-May-24 02:45 AM] exeler#0000 Made some more progress on this today. I found out discord has dropdown lists and have made good use of them for this. Would you all prefer the message to include the list of materials as well as the dropdown list? I was thinking the message would he handy for looking at what's still needed without having to click on something. The dropdown will only include materials still needed, but I was planning on leaving already fulfilled materials as part of the message. [05-May-24 02:48 AM] exeler#0000 Let know if there's anything you all would like to see (or not see) for this. I'm kind of just implementing what I think would be useful, but if you all have ideas as well I'd love to hear them! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236585207142813696/image.png?ex=68152178&is=6813cff8&hm=428309f1a15cb62eb30219db139304fac77cd997d81f8958dcb63b995d1ad500& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236585207386210356/image.png?ex=68152178&is=6813cff8&hm=c6714fcd2b7bbf53b9e97dd01d3121ffe3b89bc38fcb78cf2950a2c923b20eda& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236585207591604244/image.png?ex=68152178&is=6813cff8&hm=b6a2d9bef0ca13cd8e35e8478f9b376c473d2862664a97007a198dbab447843a& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236585207881138232/image.png?ex=68152178&is=6813cff8&hm=47a845174100580041918f3013f43a430cd0f23e1a4e05acf21c41c70aa13d32& [05-May-24 02:49 AM] exeler#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236585573926436955/image.png?ex=681521cf&is=6813d04f&hm=1883279f9eae1722d6bc657a27bb00f06206412cf7b7f5f9a27bb1175b5101cf& [05-May-24 03:21 AM] allocater#0000 maybe something where you can say who should send the contract? [05-May-24 04:22 AM] exeler#0000 I wonder if it'd be worth just having the ability to set "I have a basic license" in the bot so that it can track things. That'd let me do things like notify the bidders of an auction to send contracts if the person hosting the auction only has the BASIC license. Same for orders and now these projects. This project workflow is a little more complex and the rules for "who sends the contract?" aren't as intuitive as order vs auction (it's basically the same rules, but a project is a bit like both an order and an auction at the same time). So I definitely want the bot to say something like "please send the contract" to make it clearer who should do it. I'm getting very comfortable with the discord API at this point, so doing fancy things like this is a lot less troublesome than it was when I started. {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฉ (3) [05-May-24 01:28 PM] zipatsu#0000 Looks like someone else had the same idea at around the same time as I did haha, current population: 2 ๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1236746478425210950/image.png?ex=68150eea&is=6813bd6a&hm=639853fc326c792a5d231ebf4cb8b1dfd6b8b84ba23e463611139c6f5e69c831& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ [07-May-24 11:24 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @churavis did you ever send me over that contract for selling me the 20 POW? [07-May-24 11:25 AM] churavis#0000 If someone doesn't send you a contract feel free to send them one [07-May-24 11:45 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Iโ€™ll send one when Iโ€™m back soon [07-May-24 11:55 AM] churavis#0000 I sent one [07-May-24 06:36 PM] tuffyless#0000 Dang Zip, stop selling all that H2O ๐Ÿ˜› DW is falling through the floor. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1237548580986945556/image.png?ex=6814ae2e&is=68135cae&hm=9b5c640ad8b5041dd67855d0a30b0674f54147c6f5f8ce5bca87a610041d9d03& [07-May-24 07:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/ghost-skipping-excited-funny-flood-gif-16076222 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/ghost-skipping-excited-funny-flood-gif-16076222 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/P1TCdei1t5j3_0veqqYXc24jS1plnpV7sY17tezLvy0/https/media.tenor.com/64Esu9exVfIAAAAe/ghost-skipping.png [07-May-24 07:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 On my way to ANT to sell more H2O ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-May-24 07:33 PM] zipatsu#0000 Am glad to see the price going down though, it was getting way too expensive in my opinion. I've not really looked too deep into who's buying what amounts but from a quick glance I don't think I can take full credit for that steep of a drop but I'm also not great at reading charts so who knows ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-May-24 08:46 PM] katinga#0000 is anyone having problems with the game being unstable the past couple of days? [08-May-24 01:23 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1237832222153638019/image.png?ex=68150d97&is=6813bc17&hm=e2c0d9e8cb7268d3bee1b47dbfdbe475a30f4f6ce7379edcdd4cd2c10e8f8a60& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [08-May-24 01:23 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-fancy-nickelodeon-gif-8789131 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-fancy-nickelodeon-gif-8789131 snob R2 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zp2wVw04bA5Op0olLpgMpw8-K4_cIZqhsortHOADhd8/https/media.tenor.com/HbUr87kNjlYAAAAe/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿง (4) [08-May-24 10:40 PM] exeler#0000 Finally got that `/project` feature done (well, mostly. There's still a couple things I want to polish up, but it is functional now) To kick it off, I've used it to try and organize building a new standard 2k/2k ship in #ship-building Eventually I want to create a template system for this so it's easier to configure and place big orders like these, but for now we can share the bill of materials easily. The one for the order I placed is: `1 BR1@700000AIC/u, 1 CQM@850000AIC/u, 1 FFC@350000AIC/u, 1 FSE@650000AIC/u, 1 LCB@325000AIC/u, 2 LFE@200000AIC/u, 94 LHP@2100AIC/u, 2 MFE@80000AIC/u, 1 MFL@80000AIC/u, 1 MSL@100000AIC/u, 1 QCR@700000AIC/u, 1 SFE@50000AIC/u, 128 SSC@300AIC/u1 BR1@700000AIC/u, 1 CQM@850000AIC/u, 1 FFC@350000AIC/u, 1 FSE@650000AIC/u, 1 LCB@325000AIC/u, 2 LFE@200000AIC/u, 94 LHP@2100AIC/u, 2 MFE@80000AIC/u, 1 MFL@80000AIC/u, 1 MSL@100000AIC/u, 1 QCR@700000AIC/u, 1 SFE@50000AIC/u, 128 SSC@300AIC/u` For more details (like screenshots showing different steps, or the source code if you're a big nerd like me) check out the merge request on gitlab: https://gitlab.com/Jordan-Cottle/prosperous-bot/-/merge_requests/25 Hopefully the commands and the prompts/messages it gives are straightforward and intuitive, but if anyone has any questions, please let me know! [09-May-24 01:33 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Quick question. Do planet taxes go to the corp or the governor? [09-May-24 01:33 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Because Iโ€™d be up for running for gov soon, just worried that itโ€™s expensive to don [09-May-24 02:51 AM] allocater#0000 they go to the whole corp [09-May-24 06:31 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Ahh right thatโ€™s fine then, Iโ€™ll build up my funds and bases first before running for gov [09-May-24 06:34 AM] allocater#0000 there is an update coming on ... ?? that will change it though [09-May-24 09:36 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Oh. You reckon I should wait until the update or? [09-May-24 09:39 AM] Deleted User#0000 that could be a long time [09-May-24 09:43 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 true lol [09-May-24 09:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 What planet are you looking at? For most, the upkeep is pretty cheap - just some DW, RAT, PE and MCG for the cogc and then pop upkeep [09-May-24 09:51 AM] sidepipe#0000 If youโ€™re interested, I can show you roughly how much it costs me to run SE-110b [09-May-24 09:52 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 ZV-759g, itโ€™s a resource extract I get my H from and smelt C on [09-May-24 09:53 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Iโ€™d be interested to see for sure, because it might not be as taxing as I think [09-May-24 09:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 All PIO? If itโ€™s all PIO, itโ€™ll be super cheap to run - you basically just need a safety station, I think [09-May-24 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™ll definitely cost less than the 200k dividend you get every week ๐Ÿ˜Ž [09-May-24 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 Ill put it together when Iโ€™m back at my computer ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-May-24 09:54 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Thanks man ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-May-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 honestly for an all PIO base you can fill the COGC, run a Festival 3 for 10k AIC, and skip the SST [09-May-24 12:40 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I think I need to build a population thing first [09-May-24 12:40 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 So I could run for it [09-May-24 01:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-09_13-44-16.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-09_13-44-16.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q-sG8tWBrVzC31BuMfT_BOrSgfAz-Cfb3S8dU7oQicA/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-09_13-44-16.png [09-May-24 01:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think I've got everything but the BWS on ANT, I'll send it to you ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-May-24 01:45 PM] churavis#0000 I've got the BWS on ANT, send me a contract [09-May-24 01:51 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Iโ€™m being fast tracked to mayor ๐Ÿ˜‚ [09-May-24 01:51 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Let me get to my pc, 2 sec [09-May-24 02:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 28 BWS on ANT [09-May-24 02:50 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 sent thanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [09-May-24 02:50 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-May-24 03:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 My pleasure ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-May-24 03:04 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i guess in a way it is also benefitial to the corp because more gov means more funds for the homies [09-May-24 03:04 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 win win [09-May-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I see planets like those as great "starter planets" for people to try out governing [09-May-24 04:29 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i'll ship the materials tomorrow to ZV-759G and make a start to building [09-May-24 04:31 PM] churavis#0000 As a significant donor to the materials used to make the administrative building, I expect my name to be on a brick or plaque somewhere with profuse gratitude for my generosity. [09-May-24 04:31 PM] churavis#0000 It also wouldn't hurt to name a meeting room or something after me as well [09-May-24 04:33 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I have no clue how to do that, let me get into office and Iโ€™ll build you your very own statue [09-May-24 04:33 PM] churavis#0000 Even better [09-May-24 04:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I want naming rights over the ZV-759G administrative center bathrooms ๐Ÿคฃ [09-May-24 04:36 PM] churavis#0000 That feels appropriate [09-May-24 04:36 PM] churavis#0000 What would you name them? [09-May-24 04:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿค” [10-May-24 09:15 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Ship is on it's way with supplies to ZV-759G to build the ADM [10-May-24 09:16 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 also sending a bunch of CoGC upkeep resources too [10-May-24 02:05 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 we doing it!! [10-May-24 02:05 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1238567690101063770/image.png?ex=6815178c&is=6813c60c&hm=95a5f6bbba727f3a2f36f04904c2884671d5d451a568512e123dd6aa32eccafe& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [10-May-24 02:14 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 again, wanted to say thanks to the homies who made it possible [10-May-24 02:14 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 will probably be asking a bunch of questions if i win so i apologise in advance lol [10-May-24 02:19 PM] zipatsu#0000 Not sure if it does anything but you can vote for yourself โœŒ๏ธ [10-May-24 02:35 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 yeah i just did, kinda broken tbh ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-May-24 03:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean, if you wouldn't vote for yourself, why should anyone else? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [10-May-24 03:52 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 very good point, space Putin [10-May-24 03:52 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 just somehow win the elections, i promise i didn't vote myself lol [10-May-24 03:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's what we'll have to do until we can build the upgraded "administration center" that doesn't require all that "pesky voting" {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (2) [10-May-24 08:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Lots of hype for the northern lights tonight for anyone who lives in the northern hemisphere! If you are in Europe go outside! [11-May-24 12:09 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 roughly at what condition should i begin repairing my buildings? [11-May-24 12:11 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I repair at 60 days [11-May-24 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 For those who aren't in the ADI discord, @Deleted User is leaving the game soon. We will miss you australis! You are always welcome back! {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [11-May-24 04:54 PM] xfeuerdrachenx#0000 Yo guys I have to step back for a while and ill be inactive {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก (3) [11-May-24 06:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 See you soon, @xfeuerdrachenx ! Take care! [12-May-24 01:30 AM] allocater#0000 I do 90 days, that's when it decayed by 50% but still produces 80%, after 90d it drops from 80% rapidly {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [12-May-24 10:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 I've been sending a bunch of contracts to Higgsy for some of her leftover stuff at ANT and a few other planets, so I'll be putting up more free auctions for those things in the coming days ๐Ÿ™‚ [12-May-24 10:37 AM] sidepipe#0000 It's just gonna take some time for me to ship a lot of it back to ANT [12-May-24 11:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah well that's annoying, One_S liquidated so fast I couldn't even fulfill the pickup and now it's just sitting there pending in progress... [12-May-24 11:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 why do I get the impression that's gonna somehow ding my contract score when it expires in a couple days [12-May-24 12:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Don't worry, I think it's pretty much impossible to have less than an A {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [12-May-24 01:01 PM] churavis#0000 Only if you're not a B [12-May-24 06:03 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I had been supporting the POPI and CoGC on IIg, but I am more than happy to support you for governor! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [12-May-24 06:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Someone else dumped a bunch of unnecessary stuff into the SST a while ago so I have been letting that run down [12-May-24 06:04 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Thanks man, Iโ€™ve recently just sent a bunch of supplies for CoGC and popi, just need to send some other bits and bobs tbh [12-May-24 06:05 PM] draconisdomini#0000 If you need any extra let me know. I still have a bunch of extra MCG, OFF, PE, and DW on planet for that purpose [13-May-24 12:19 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone making ZIR? [13-May-24 12:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 LDE market is tapping out [13-May-24 09:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have 115 ZR on ANT if you want any of it. No ZIR though [13-May-24 10:19 AM] zipatsu#0000 Who will win, 4 new bases or Allocater's limitless pockets ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1239597781463732304/image.png?ex=6814e265&is=681390e5&hm=68e16fe7c163887c9343592c2ac52e80478f31487c765db1b6e4ae57bb7fd79e& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [13-May-24 10:30 AM] allocater#0000 I also want to drop the price from 45, but I need to buy at 38 to do it ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-May-24 10:33 AM] zipatsu#0000 Unexpectedly working together to achieve the same goal? The plot thickens! ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-May-24 04:43 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @sidepipe did you mean this? [13-May-24 04:43 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1239694537643790438/image.png?ex=681493c2&is=68134242&hm=5d51f2e868816958aa783614eb91afa08140c8c81783466ce723b50f7d81c65e& [13-May-24 04:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yes ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-May-24 04:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Filling an order with Higgsys leftover stuff [13-May-24 04:45 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 champion ๐Ÿซถ [13-May-24 04:45 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i forgot to send that water contract [13-May-24 06:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh shoot, I just realized it was supposed to be DW ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [13-May-24 06:48 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Lmao ๐Ÿ˜‚ [13-May-24 06:49 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Just request termination for the rat one [13-May-24 06:49 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I was wondering why I was getting so much RAT for a dime ๐Ÿ˜‚ [13-May-24 06:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 Just canโ€™t read today ๐Ÿ™ƒ [13-May-24 06:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 Next time you need 2K DW itโ€™s on me tho - what you just got came out of Higgsyโ€™s stuff, so it was supposed to be free [13-May-24 06:52 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Ahh thatโ€™s fair enough, Iโ€™ll let you know, doing fine for now. Maybe in a day or 3 and Iโ€™ll need some {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-May-24 06:53 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Thanks [15-May-24 11:46 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (6) [16-May-24 08:43 PM] exeler#0000 One day I'll deliver this, but not today {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1240842177567789061/image.png?ex=6814cc14&is=68137a94&hm=df2039224473a8f8542de37c3dcad15a59b45b66df318e7e14816db80d990ad0& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [16-May-24 10:45 PM] churavis#0000 But you could get 2 whole faction points [16-May-24 11:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ant 1a got renamed "Eos" [16-May-24 11:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 that's pretty good [16-May-24 11:10 PM] churavis#0000 Is it? [16-May-24 11:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean any Greek mythology name is above average [16-May-24 11:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 And when people all stick to a theme it feels like weโ€™ve got that Antares spirit [16-May-24 11:26 PM] churavis#0000 The bar has gotten so low {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (4) [17-May-24 03:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Bober {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ›‘ [17-May-24 08:15 AM] Deleted User#0000 Bober needs developer intervention [17-May-24 08:15 AM] Deleted User#0000 Same with Wet Water [17-May-24 11:29 AM] katinga#0000 what if I wanted to name a planet Kobayashi Maru? [17-May-24 11:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 Not as good as a greek mythology name, but way better than average! I'd probably split the name across two planets, but then you gotta buy two packs ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-May-24 11:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 What we really need is a way to rename "Elon" ๐Ÿ˜ญ [17-May-24 11:34 AM] katinga#0000 It wouldn't make sense to split the name though. IYKYK [17-May-24 04:58 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 genuine question, what is the use of a planet i.e Bober, that has no resources? [17-May-24 05:00 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Chem [17-May-24 05:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Oh [17-May-24 05:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i never thought about that [17-May-24 05:01 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I do CL + TC there [17-May-24 05:01 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 damn, kinda smart. make a planet whatever you want the CoGC [17-May-24 05:01 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 might persuade my friend to govern an empty planet for food industries lol [17-May-24 05:01 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 never thought about that [17-May-24 05:02 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Ideally you should maximize CoGC gains, by only putting corresponding production, but in reality you have limited permits [17-May-24 05:03 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 yeah true [17-May-24 06:23 PM] exeler#0000 Also, the only cogc industries that actually benefit from the planet are resource extraction and agriculture. Most of the time the other planets are just taking advantage of the conveniently co-located resources, but everyone who builds the resource extract buildings is sacrificing space they could've used for a cogc boosted building instead. [17-May-24 06:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 All those beautiful planets with plentiful water, only to be ruined by those.... farmers and their talk of ''the good fertile soil'' taking the CoCG hostage for non-resource extraction options ๐Ÿ˜’ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [18-May-24 06:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 just auction day things ๐Ÿฅฒ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241529810430460044/image.png?ex=6814a97d&is=681357fd&hm=538b61eb92a485287c483a55e9db04e2afd2e1ceb88008625bfde14102414b51& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿ™€ (5) ๐Ÿฅฒ [19-May-24 01:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 Another one who keeps buying everything and selling it right back to me {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241813625648451735/image.png?ex=68150910&is=6813b790&hm=12d579b65e9cf00fd507bd040dc9ce80908a64c7830223a5fb202efb31c6ed8d& [19-May-24 01:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/n7shwtgF4zWZlEoDtN_z0hvG5CeRNECih7k2AkEzJ98/https/media.tenor.com/_J14-pUUSIcAAAAe/why-just-why.png [19-May-24 01:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Are they just trying to take down the orders? [19-May-24 01:07 PM] zipatsu#0000 I think so, not sure why though ๐Ÿ˜… [19-May-24 01:08 PM] zipatsu#0000 seems to be listing smaller amounts for more but the majority goes right back to me so I just end up relisting the buys and sells {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241814686601580686/image.png?ex=68150a0d&is=6813b88d&hm=66ef3777a1c90e9ea5b9bdf48919d29a0d736b05a869ed8210440e8d87328f5c& [19-May-24 01:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 So they lose 0.1 AIC per H2O breaking down your orders and then try to sell at 2 AIC higher? That seems like a really tough way to make money ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:13 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, he's going through ~200k water back and forth just to try and make some 60k ish profit by hopefully selling that 30k H2O before I get on to relist them at my price [19-May-24 01:13 PM] zipatsu#0000 Surely with an account that old that's not worth the effort, doesn't look like they're a H2O producer either {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241816125667282944/image.png?ex=68150b64&is=6813b9e4&hm=8f91fb57f7a8163c67eb97b6c500fa5cb8814f1e373475c92250b23008320ca1& [19-May-24 01:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 I guess you could always message them on UFO and ask ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:17 PM] zipatsu#0000 Asked in game, will wait and see if there's a reply as this is the 2nd time they've done this since yesterday {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241816924665680162/image.png?ex=68150c22&is=6813baa2&hm=fd084b3424508543fc54f38d753e918b9b9773047e8589b4dc7cdd3066fb8c77& [19-May-24 01:17 PM] zipatsu#0000 's more of a slight hassle having to check and relist all 3 CX's but I do gain a sweet 0.1 profit per H2O they sell back to me I guess lol [19-May-24 01:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m guessing the answer is โ€œthat sweet sweet 0.05% ROI on my initial investment of 900kโ€ [19-May-24 01:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Not that I can judge, Iโ€™ve done arbitrage trades for more money and less return. But that was by accident ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-May-24 01:19 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, it's happened before and that person just made a numbers mistake on the one purchase and then sold it back to me at a very minor loss [19-May-24 01:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 This one's gone through about a million H2O over 3 CX's so I don't think it's an error, at least I hope not [19-May-24 01:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Heโ€™s probably just extremely thirsty [19-May-24 01:22 PM] zipatsu#0000 I guess the only thing that would bother me, slightly, is if I ended up missing the relist period long enough for it to mess up that nice flat line here {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241818159640744036/image.png?ex=68150d49&is=6813bbc9&hm=1d42fa54e61c447dde85267a506ccf4c81e1e827c5b95d5d686565eb4ee72286& [19-May-24 01:22 PM] zipatsu#0000 Started slowly lowering it from 40+ down to the current 31 [19-May-24 01:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 I enjoy that graph a lot ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:24 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, it's pleasing to look at ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 I want to do the same with DDT but thereโ€™s no way Iโ€™d be able to control all the buy prices as well [19-May-24 01:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 So I just keep AI1 at 3650 max [19-May-24 01:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 It took a bit of time to build up enough to be able to sustain 200k buys on ANT & MOR, am only barely up to 100k buys on BEN right now [19-May-24 01:28 PM] zipatsu#0000 Am not outrageously rich either so really all it would take is one player like Allocator just buying up all my supply without selling it back to me to start raising the price again. Granted I do produce a metric ton of H2O myself but shipping that back and forth takes at least 2-3 so there'd definitely be an opportunity to break the price I've set currently (am just hoping both old and new players appreciate being able to get H2O at a stable price and thus don't do this ๐Ÿ˜„ ) [19-May-24 01:29 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241820101330600119/image.png?ex=68150f18&is=6813bd98&hm=560e5639fa600f41fa8db28c056f53cf788fcd60326b63e03a1ffd2186b8234b& [19-May-24 01:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 Ah, a free market absolutist [19-May-24 01:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-May-24 01:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s why heโ€™s relisting it forโ€ฆ more money? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-May-24 01:31 PM] zipatsu#0000 Here I thought 31 was almost getting too cheap, it's already more than a month to repay the cost of building the base ๐Ÿ˜• [19-May-24 01:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 Sure you have data. But what about what he thinks? [19-May-24 01:35 PM] zipatsu#0000 We'll see where this goes I guess {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241821531353649202/image.png?ex=6815106d&is=6813beed&hm=02cfd577f62492f2da793da81e2233e0dfa567ec807e7705d8b86d9ee139acea& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (3) [19-May-24 01:36 PM] zipatsu#0000 I was thinking of lowering it to 30 at some point but at 31 sell / 30.9 buy it felt about right with the amount going in & out, first I've heard of it being too high if anything I was worrying it was too low ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 Speaking of which, would you be interested in buying 10-20k H2O at a steep discount? Iโ€™ve been overproducing at etherwind for a while now, but my storage is filling up and Iโ€™ve been too lazy to send a ship over there [19-May-24 01:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™d sell it to you at cost since youโ€™d have to ship it. No worries if you donโ€™t need more water though ๐Ÿ˜‚ [19-May-24 01:38 PM] zipatsu#0000 Just as a one time purchase or a running contract ? [19-May-24 01:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Just one time, for now [19-May-24 01:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Though id be open to a running contract if you want a lot more water. Iโ€™m turning my extra into DW right now, but I do really like the consistent water prices ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 Running FPs on an extraction planet just feels wrong. So much wasted water potential [19-May-24 01:43 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241823469981929633/image.png?ex=6815123b&is=6813c0bb&hm=3abed2a32a50229d109be5fe3a08baf818df43d55e3dd0e086c273785b0edb9c& [19-May-24 01:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh, so theyโ€™re raising the price to lower the price? Iโ€™m not sure I follow ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 01:44 PM] zipatsu#0000 Sure, I can take all of it at 28/u. No need for a huge discount I'm more looking to have the price be stable rather than turning a huge profit. Send me the contract(s) whenever โœŒ๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“จ [19-May-24 01:45 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, I don't fully understand the plan as unless they're somehow able to compete with my production it will only end up increasing the price if my supply gets removed ? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241824054353068175/image.png?ex=681512c6&is=6813c146&hm=1a3d55eebda36f1d138869b81601a7445e16a9521aa6d751f0b108a85f521b6a& [19-May-24 01:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 Also, if selling lower means others will flip it (and others will buy it at the higher price), doesnโ€™t that mean prices < 31 are too low? [19-May-24 01:46 PM] zipatsu#0000 I don't think it's a fully thought out plan ๐Ÿ˜… [19-May-24 01:52 PM] zipatsu#0000 So far most people I've seen talk about it do seem to like the stability of it when it comes to planning things out, and as far as I'm aware (haven't done too much research) pretty much anything you do use the H2O for sells for a good amount of profit like DW is 187 per FP slot with the H2O recipe or 328 per FP slot with the H2O + PG recipe [19-May-24 03:42 PM] mrsmith33#0000 How is fee currency selected on the planet? [19-May-24 03:56 PM] churavis#0000 It's set by the governor [19-May-24 03:58 PM] mrsmith33#0000 How? Can you change it manually, or it is automatically set based on something? [19-May-24 04:02 PM] churavis#0000 The governor can change it at any time but it will generate a notification for everyone on the planet that the local rules have changed [19-May-24 04:03 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I don't see any dropdown near the currency {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1241858760855523499/image.png?ex=68148a59&is=681338d9&hm=b0513a3df35f212a3b00e9d6bee65ad0397031599c2d6ac1113632847acf4d03& [19-May-24 04:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think you can only change the currency for planets outside faction space? I might be wrong tho [19-May-24 04:05 PM] churavis#0000 Mouse over the number and it will show an edit button [19-May-24 04:06 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yes, but I can only enter a number there, not currency [19-May-24 04:06 PM] churavis#0000 I don't think you can change the currency if it's in the official territory of a faction [19-May-24 04:07 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Thanks, that's what I was looking for [19-May-24 04:08 PM] churavis#0000 At least, I hope not. A governor could mess up a lot of noobs if they change the taxation currency to one they don't have access to [19-May-24 04:11 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Molp said some time ago that > it's either the governor's or the corporation's currency, but it cannot be chosen manually for planets outside of faction space [19-May-24 06:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's a tough way to make money, but he'll make it up in volume ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-May-24 06:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 The fee currency is the currency of the governor's corp [19-May-24 06:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 so all OOG planets will be AIC [19-May-24 06:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-19_18-57-39.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-19_18-57-39.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/MPlsMzLgvyxoiY2uywihMbhNsAyaFBlUFoXVTctgxKQ/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-05-19_18-57-39.png [19-May-24 06:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 We flipped malahat to AIC when I started there [19-May-24 06:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 some people complained a little, but it was fine [19-May-24 06:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hum, that might only be for planets outside of a region though.... ๐Ÿค” [19-May-24 07:02 PM] zipatsu#0000 I was half tempted to leave the game up in the background in order to delete the buy listing as soon as they bought out the 200k sell and then lowering my 200k buy down to 25 or something while listing more supply myself at 31/u but I figured the optics of that gap would reflect poorly on me from an outside perspective ๐Ÿ˜… [19-May-24 07:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah honestly 31 seems like a fine price, not really sure what he would be shooting for {Reactions} ๐Ÿคท [19-May-24 10:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 Sounds like just a random excuse anyways since he's immediately selling higher {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [19-May-24 10:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's a lot of OOG supply up in the order book if we decide we want to make a statement about it ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ผ [20-May-24 02:06 AM] allocater#0000 if it gets too annoying you can increase the spread to make breaking down both walls more expensive [20-May-24 06:04 AM] zipatsu#0000 That's a good idea, will employ that tactic if he keeps doing it ๐Ÿซก He's only done it one more time so far, right after I went offline for a bit but I fixed it back up fairly quickly after that so hopefully he realizes that unless he intends to hold onto all that water himself I'll just keep putting it right back up ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-May-24 11:19 AM] emperyan11#0000 While we're talking about prices, is there a new use for EDC I don't know about? I noticed a few folks including our friend @allocater actually offering more than the MM for it... [22-May-24 11:19 AM] allocater#0000 just 100 more to exchange for other currencies [22-May-24 11:21 AM] emperyan11#0000 ?? [22-May-24 11:21 AM] emperyan11#0000 (I mean, yeah it wasn't a huge bump ) [22-May-24 11:22 AM] allocater#0000 if I buy EDC for 11600 and sell for 11500 to CIS, then I only lose 0.86% in the conversion [22-May-24 11:23 AM] emperyan11#0000 Ah, gotcha! [22-May-24 11:23 AM] emperyan11#0000 Never thought about shipping it further than ANT CX myself. [22-May-24 11:43 AM] katinga#0000 I am still EDC on Malahat, so there's that [23-May-24 08:23 AM] sidepipe#0000 @.urpalhal has officially completed the trial period! ๐Ÿฅณ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [23-May-24 08:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve sent out the invitation to the in-game corp and will change your roles once I figure out how to do so on mobile. Welcome to OOG (officially) ๐Ÿ™‚ [23-May-24 10:16 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/new-team-family-welcome-penguin-gif-4801507799544141460 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/new-team-family-welcome-penguin-gif-4801507799544141460 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SxVhsrTeRvpqBYGjk9vzySgSOXTryySMf4-pgnSUQ08/https/media.tenor.com/QqJh53oYlpQAAAAe/new-team.png [23-May-24 12:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-14529573991400142151 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-14529573991400142151 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/a8ayVMV4WfeXcb3S4iN61p8Aazm_QE3w-pii1_FH_Bg/https/media.tenor.com/yaNqkG8o9UcAAAAe/hhgf.png [23-May-24 12:07 PM] katinga#0000 New guy washes all our ships, right? [23-May-24 12:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 I also canโ€™t figure out how to change your roles on mobile, but Iโ€™ll do that once Iโ€™m back at my computer ๐Ÿ™‚ [23-May-24 01:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome officially ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-May-24 01:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like your roles are all set {Reactions} โค๏ธ [23-May-24 02:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 ๐Ÿค [24-May-24 10:18 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Do we have a main Argon producer? Feel like nobody in the galaxy collects it lol [24-May-24 10:52 AM] churavis#0000 I produce a little bit of Argon on KI-401d but not enough for the whole corp [24-May-24 11:15 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 ahh fair, i feel like argon isn't in abundance in the galaxy [24-May-24 11:15 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 and it's super expensive to extract [24-May-24 12:17 PM] mrsmith33#0000 With a new base, my list of bases is now missing one base from quick access ๐Ÿ˜ข : Maybe I should compactify it even more {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1243613978765164635/image.png?ex=6814fe45&is=6813acc5&hm=abc525acbbbffb91a8ba5eeb44975b734f7d61ba58d435ffcfe413f63b227952& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1243613979021148395/image.png?ex=6814fe45&is=6813acc5&hm=656a8a382d62beeec575c4a5613fc5695004ef76d76e8b9dc227e4f1467f0afa& [24-May-24 12:19 PM] churavis#0000 I bet you could get them down to 3 or 4 characters [24-May-24 12:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mmn.. Pho [24-May-24 08:12 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I feel like Argon should be producible.... Here on earth you can get it by fractional distillation or by heating atmospheiric N_2 with Mg or Ca.... [24-May-24 08:13 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean it is the 3rd most prevalent gas in our atmosphere. [26-May-24 06:26 AM] katinga#0000 How does a planet go "On Strike"? No leadership? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1244250293059719259/image.png?ex=6814abe2&is=68135a62&hm=f551472ff14c74a7471e55079ce81e628f747c0169b014a38c53204fbfc7a920& [26-May-24 06:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 CoGC mats are not supplied [27-May-24 07:16 AM] katinga#0000 Happy Memorial Day! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ท [27-May-24 09:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 It kinda sounds like the governor changes will be coming in just a few more weeks. Usually when things hit the test server, they come to production pretty quickly, right? [27-May-24 09:25 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Is it already on the tests server? [27-May-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 not yet, they said "soon" for the test server, which I suspect means this week or so [27-May-24 12:50 PM] katinga#0000 there's a PTR? [27-May-24 02:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 not so public, no [27-May-24 04:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 For high enough levels of donation packs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ [29-May-24 03:32 PM] katinga#0000 hey, just so no one freaks out. I'm dropping corp just long enough to do a favor. I'm coming right back ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿซก [29-May-24 04:53 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @.urpalhal this one is all yours bud ๐Ÿคฃ https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1156955200867811450/1245405548640337926 [29-May-24 07:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Too bad I only have 200 rn [29-May-24 07:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey is the space elevator coming in this release? Is it on the test server? [29-May-24 08:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 looks like politcal stuffs [29-May-24 08:07 PM] .urpalhal#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1245543978925953126/Screenshot_2024-05-29_190656.png?ex=6814c379&is=681371f9&hm=fb8803fd7d2dcbefd8ec5bd093097f18b49f78745d23af4470ea5709ec6cd540& [29-May-24 08:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 Think they said after politics [29-May-24 08:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ญ [30-May-24 01:11 AM] melon164#0000 What are the changes to ship shields/plates/tiles? [30-May-24 06:20 AM] katinga#0000 shields? are you expecting Klingons off the starboard bow? [30-May-24 06:30 AM] domicius#0000 We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill [30-May-24 06:41 AM] melon164#0000 They made some balance changes partly in response to a forum post I made https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/05/06/shields-up-433 {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/05/06/shields-up-433 Shields Up! - Development Log #433 | Prosperous Universe In this week's devlog we talk about upcoming changes to ship shields and more motion components. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TXwRPXyyJKJ_JPmEw9hI3Vrd3IiG596XDQvkB1J_LD0/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/asteroid-day-2023.jpg [30-May-24 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 idk if they forgot or just haven't finished balancing them but they're not in the server right now [30-May-24 08:57 AM] katinga#0000 it's life, Jim, but not as we know it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– [30-May-24 10:01 AM] melon164#0000 Ah well [30-May-24 05:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 @churavis I didn't see any difference in shield costs, either for blueprints or for the mat themselves {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-May-24 05:58 PM] katinga#0000 anyone got RATs to sell? [30-May-24 05:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 4K at ANT ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-May-24 06:01 PM] katinga#0000 I LF 2k but will take a subset of that amouth [30-May-24 06:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 2K works for me! I've got another few thousand sitting around various places, just haven't gathered it all yet [30-May-24 09:38 PM] tuffyless#0000 Any idea if the 'Open Jobs' count were to double, before the next POPR, that the SET immigration/education growth would increase greater than, if not doubled? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1245929288444674098/image.png?ex=6814d8d2&is=68138752&hm=87f8e77da5d7e42f5f1f91c44f6cd08a95596d75958bf5291e4adec93c02409e& [30-May-24 11:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 The open jobs will push the happiness up. It will still be ramping up from prev values. doing the math in my head.. the max migration in you'll get is ~300, and it wont' have ramped up, so maybe like 200. Family support will boost is 20% to 240... sooo if you can run a program do the settler immigration to get it to 400 (+200 from the program) [30-May-24 11:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 It still caps at 100% happiness even with a huge number of open jobs, so you won't ever get "migration in" above 30% of the start of the week's settler population [31-May-24 05:20 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i sent you a CONTD for 2k RAT. [31-May-24 08:20 AM] sidepipe#0000 CL.AI1 is not having a great time ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246090970219544576/image.png?ex=6814c6a6&is=68137526&hm=231f7cbe21c0cdf1aea2785ff66c5cd0424e7f5b8f30ced25a6275c0c1b9d081& [31-May-24 08:21 AM] churavis#0000 There's lots of good chem planets around [31-May-24 08:22 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I was kinda speculating about this a few months back - CL got really really cheap (like <3000) and I was wondering if it'd push more people into chemistry [31-May-24 08:22 AM] sidepipe#0000 maybe it did ๐Ÿ™‚ [31-May-24 08:36 AM] katinga#0000 I bought 2k from sidepipe {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [31-May-24 03:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 A reminder to myself for later tonight. I'm think I'm going to: 1) start advertising for recruitment, with expectations of a pretty high bar for people who come to us . 2) Update shipbuilding quantities, buy next batch of components. 3) Considering buying components at our internal price for sales inside OOG (any interest for that)? I would do that with existing contracts and a rebate maybe, as a way to minimize contracts / clicking. Which is already a lot ๐Ÿ˜› 4) Make a list of prunplanner recommended bases for OOG members who have permits available but no plans to use them. SE-110 combos (H2O + DW, H2O + HYFs + INCs, etc). Ant2D EPO base, growing technician population on Malahat. 5) Work towards personally providing of certain HQ upgrade materials for free to OOG members. 6) Delegate someone to clean up the retirees out of the production sheet. 7) Mark retirees in discord too. [31-May-24 03:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 8) Oh yeah, maybe a shipyard in SE-110 if enough people are interested. Mostly just as a funsies project. I do move a ton of stuff around in-system [31-May-24 03:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Donโ€™t we have a shipyard on Ice Station Alpha? [31-May-24 04:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Uh good question. That was always vaguely my plan [31-May-24 04:16 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246210702675411004/image.png?ex=68148d68&is=68133be8&hm=a1267d0c28db01e3b5e272bceb09c73c3b2383984bdc970c8c7159ec6e539f4a& [31-May-24 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 woo ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 05:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 I wouldn't add the extra load for in corp sales, seems like more hassle. [31-May-24 05:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 Gotta keep that clicking finger in top shape for the profitable sales [31-May-24 05:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 Plus with better prices, I hope most people consider HYRs in corp {Reactions} โ€ผ๏ธ (2) [31-May-24 06:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I could lower my MHL prices more too, i have like... 800+ [31-May-24 06:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 How much faster are HYRs? [31-May-24 06:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm not sure offhand but "a lot". They are smaller area-wise too [31-May-24 07:16 PM] zipatsu#0000 ANT > Boucher on default settings with about 5% damage on each {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246255935643582546/image.png?ex=6814b789&is=68136609&hm=02c0ddbb2cbf588959103411ad29a174c271407d20d21b1e09713b27aeb838a6& [31-May-24 07:16 PM] zipatsu#0000 ANT> Boucher Max reactor usage {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246255978110910484/image.png?ex=6814b793&is=68136613&hm=c697e6f46871bec80663d1b5745d2e9d2513a14dc773871e17c37b18f52e15c7& [31-May-24 07:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 ANT > Harmonia default {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246257015328735232/image.png?ex=6814b88a&is=6813670a&hm=2521fd92b3d7765fe9e9416eae2dbc463ab37c0b038d900310232d3193787d13& [31-May-24 07:21 PM] zipatsu#0000 ANT > Harmonia max reactor usage {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246257179288403979/image.png?ex=6814b8b1&is=68136731&hm=c8357131e8100efb5df89484dce075e9bc5357065c3423173c4a3caa057de6ae& [31-May-24 07:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [31-May-24 07:21 PM] zipatsu#0000 The BP's used for them {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246257364223529000/image.png?ex=6814b8dd&is=6813675d&hm=bb8bc05f65d50fd6aee6ed14a715489bca7e1184dcdb4edbd32e968691906a26& [31-May-24 07:21 PM] tuffyless#0000 Triple the FF usage. yikez [31-May-24 07:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe I need to get HYR ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 07:22 PM] zipatsu#0000 It's pretty fuel intensive but it does get you there faster ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 07:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™d be nice to have an LCB race car for when I forget to resupply a base {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [31-May-24 07:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 Also, I like your ship names! [31-May-24 07:28 PM] zipatsu#0000 Thanks! ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 08:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 Reactors scale roughly equal [31-May-24 08:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 so if you put them both to 0/minimal FF usage, the fuel usage will be the same, but because of the slightly larger size of the HYR+BR2 it'll be slightly slower [31-May-24 09:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 they give you a wider range to choose from [31-May-24 09:01 PM] hernanduer#0000 I don't really think about the cost of fuel at this point anyways with maybe a resupply to each base every 10 days [31-May-24 09:01 PM] hernanduer#0000 it does let you use fewer ships though! and make up for mistakes if you miss timings [31-May-24 09:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 I don't have a lot of bases, but I do make a lot of mistakes ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 11:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I always send ships too early [31-May-24 11:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I forget to put things in the inventory or don't refuel... [31-May-24 11:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 In my quest to upkeep malahat... I have been buying out a handful of materials... so consider me interested in buying FOD, OLF, SOI, and PFE. OLF in particular tends to run out but is relatively cost effective when it's in stock [31-May-24 11:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 Even with 9 PAR I gotta put in a lot of items types to get all the comfort we need [31-May-24 11:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm someone tore down a technician base I think too [31-May-24 11:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Not me ๐Ÿ˜Š {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [31-May-24 11:41 PM] tuffyless#0000 I had to reduce prod of MHP some to let the inputs catch up. I produce OLF, SOI, PFE and can ramp up FOD but dunno the corp prices. What is fair? [31-May-24 11:44 PM] tuffyless#0000 Think I saw SOI selling here for 200 but Im pretty sure to be taking a loss at that. Dont recall seeing the others in Auctions/Orders. [31-May-24 11:47 PM] tuffyless#0000 Got this at ANT currently: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246324151757570048/image.png?ex=6814f711&is=6813a591&hm=45da589d365eb731d288359178a6670d81fd6898de96d07d3098a21e24f038a9& [31-May-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have buy orders up for a bunch of them [31-May-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't mind paying CX prices, really. Especially if it's in corp [31-May-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 I did buy from a bunch of your orders today, hehe ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-May-24 11:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'd take all that, for sure. I could use like 50 OLF per day it looks like [31-May-24 11:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Will also take your MHP/HOG/BID. BID probably won't be worth it given the price of KV. And HOG might be pretty price ineffecitve to. Ideally like 5k per HOG. But the pink ones I'll need for Comfort [31-May-24 11:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh HOGs are good at like 8k in the 4-d arcades. [31-May-24 11:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 SOI is pretty good at 445. PFE at 679. Still way better than FOD. [31-May-24 11:54 PM] hernanduer#0000 I produce some excess BID/MHP [31-May-24 11:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 BID would need to be like 27k/u [31-May-24 11:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah BID sucks ๐Ÿ˜› [31-May-24 11:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 MHP I could do like 3.5k. I don't make a lot of excess though, just here and there [31-May-24 11:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 lol ya it gave me an outlet for excess KV [31-May-24 11:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wish they would rebalance the biggger buildings [31-May-24 11:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 and SAR [31-May-24 11:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 I make so many SAR now [31-May-24 11:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 There is no KV on the ANt CX right now ๐Ÿ˜‰ [31-May-24 11:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh there's no TCL, there is some KV [31-May-24 11:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246326467579871322/image.png?ex=6814f939&is=6813a7b9&hm=899fad37dd6ee8e3476b1a76de7d139eecef28fc091740a8ef1aedc6b2289756& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ (3) [31-May-24 11:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246326518754312395/image.png?ex=6814f945&is=6813a7c5&hm=db7d33d7e331b653fa337ca0df59619f9f5920c6a5a8bbb43a4712c9257a97ab& [31-May-24 11:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 I like to hoard these days [31-May-24 11:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Jun-24 12:00 AM] tuffyless#0000 I'll send contds for the SOI & PFE. That'll keep your CX buys up if wanted. How much for the OLF? ; I'll contd that too. [01-Jun-24 12:01 AM] archielvahr#0000 For OLF I think I could go up to like 780 [01-Jun-24 12:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 which I think should be pretty good [01-Jun-24 12:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 My CX orders are at 500 [01-Jun-24 12:02 AM] tuffyless#0000 I tend to delete CXOS stuff to keep it clean, so dont see history. Gotta get outa the habit. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [01-Jun-24 12:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 not a lot of CX action on it. back in march someone did pay 1300 [01-Jun-24 12:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 geez I wonder if that was me [01-Jun-24 12:09 AM] tuffyless#0000 sent contds for OLF, SOI, PFE. Lemme know if I screwed anything up in them; alittle tipsy tonight. [01-Jun-24 12:11 AM] tuffyless#0000 Will try to keep up w/ demand. It's a balancing act w/ extracting CUO & BRM on 840c. [01-Jun-24 06:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I just took a look at the weight of AU {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246426291901562890/image.png?ex=6814ad71&is=68135bf1&hm=0a90d0c7c0dd5775edd9e2d99bfd7850812ad939bd3bc55039a85652d683cf07& [01-Jun-24 06:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Now I see the source of problem {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246426332334653501/image.png?ex=6814ad7b&is=68135bfb&hm=ca2030e4efcce001af84abec8f84c3d686f06860b8760a91b506a9e144ba0e95& [01-Jun-24 07:00 AM] melon164#0000 Thatโ€™s why we so badly wanted to call QJ-650c โ€œMidasโ€: touch the wrong thing there and bam, 11kt of gold products {Reactions} ๐Ÿช™ [01-Jun-24 03:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 Kinda interested in people's ideas here - I'm working on revamping some of my bases and can't decide what to do next: [01-Jun-24 03:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have 3 permits on harmonia feeding RAT/FIM production on Norwick. I also have a HAL mine on Halcyon that I don't need anymore since big HAL is up and running. I'm trying to decide if it would make more sense to start up burning C on halcyon and feed that from Harmonia or HYF on Life, or if I should focus on moving farms from harmonia to life to free up two permits [01-Jun-24 03:30 PM] churavis#0000 I'm starting to burn C on Halcyon with HCP from Life, it saves a permit over Harmonia but requires a ludicrous amount of MHL [01-Jun-24 03:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 Are you able to feed a full INC base on Halcyon with HYF on Life? [01-Jun-24 03:31 PM] mrsmith33#0000 There is also Demeter for FRM [01-Jun-24 03:31 PM] churavis#0000 I could feed like 5 or 6 bases {Reactions} โ€ผ๏ธ [01-Jun-24 03:32 PM] churavis#0000 At the slow recipe [01-Jun-24 03:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe that's the move, then. I'd like to free up those 2 extra harmonia permits if I can. Demeter might be a good idea as well [01-Jun-24 03:33 PM] churavis#0000 Demeter won't need MHL or any special MATs but it is far away. [01-Jun-24 03:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 True. I could also do both. At the end of the day, I want to repurpose those 2 harmonia permits + 1 halcyon permit for _something_ else without changing my RAT output too much [01-Jun-24 03:35 PM] churavis#0000 Personally, I have my Demeter base just for feeding my 25 INC on Nascent [01-Jun-24 03:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'll have to stare at prunplanner for a while, but this at least gives me some ideas to look at ๐Ÿ™‚ [01-Jun-24 03:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe I could even build another CHP base to use up all that HAL from @.urpalhal ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Jun-24 03:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 You could [01-Jun-24 04:57 PM] melon164#0000 Demeter FRM โ€”> KI-401d INC is the magic carbon formula for me [01-Jun-24 04:57 PM] melon164#0000 Itโ€™s a shame the other planets in Demeterโ€™s system are so awful [01-Jun-24 05:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Since Demeter is far, it's good for HER. [01-Jun-24 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 I really enjoy the combos on SE-110. Get water from ISA, then there's a planet for FPs, INCs, and HYFs. Looks like 110d is the only one you are missing. [01-Jun-24 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 As far as profits, more chemistry seems to be good. You don't have a base on ANT 2d, and this planet makes EPO with very few visits: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_17-44-52.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_17-44-52.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/R_c4N_WIUsWNnJKu1LTVQ0oQtvgFX-AgJMaOM-amGBU/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_17-44-52.png [01-Jun-24 05:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 KV, EPO, NR are going to be long term winners I think [01-Jun-24 06:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 doing HER on demeter is a solid idea, that way I can dedicate harmonia to just RATs [01-Jun-24 06:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 EPO is interesting too. Especially since I already have PP3s on Nike {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [01-Jun-24 06:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thank you all for the ideas ๐Ÿ™‚ now I can move on to the important next stage of procrastinating on expanding for a week or two {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [01-Jun-24 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh manufacturing base on Astraeus is good too. (BMPs for PE or weaving plants). It has low tech population [01-Jun-24 06:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 And there's vulcan if you want metals but ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ profit is probably not too high [01-Jun-24 06:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 I feel like metals aren't for me atm ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Jun-24 06:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 they're cheap enough on the CX, and I like to buy big batches from some of the newer players in ADI every now and then [01-Jun-24 06:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah definitely true [01-Jun-24 06:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 They are some of my least profitable planets: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_18-18-59.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_18-18-59.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Ct0HCUX0TNLA7AqRVCbVd2u5d_Dqj06URyiSIATvmtg/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-06-01_18-18-59.png [01-Jun-24 06:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m sure it would make sense in the future if I start using more metals, but atm I use like 700 AL a week [01-Jun-24 06:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Also those are some nice profits [01-Jun-24 06:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 mine are less interesting. don't ask what's going on with SE-110b ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246604650736779274/image.png?ex=6814aacd&is=6813594d&hm=ee51e6c43b3952aafaf7d7adc1b88aa1f1100fc47b34f66eca692c3efc066634& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [01-Jun-24 06:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 Is your ISA a full 500/500? [01-Jun-24 06:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246607429807112253/image.png?ex=6814ad64&is=68135be4&hm=92eeb0e296432fac898f0c8ccadfbd15c47ea688b5cb6020a57efa7eabed197b& [01-Jun-24 06:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 no, they're not quite all full yet. I just scaled ISA up to match the needs of A and B [01-Jun-24 06:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 gotcha [01-Jun-24 06:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maxing those out is another thing on the list of things I need to procrastinate on for another week ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jun-24 03:24 PM] katinga#0000 wtb REP and KOM [02-Jun-24 03:58 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 ^ i have that in stock. [02-Jun-24 04:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Okay, big corp spreadsheet cleanup! 1) Shipbuilding is now on the "Shipbuilding" sheet of the corp workbook here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit#gid=2002263833 2) Retired users have been marked "retired" in discord, and have been moved in the Prices sheet. {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit Ooga Booga Corporate Production Planets ,Phobos,Hephaestus,Deimos,Vulcan,Nike,Aceland,Griffonstone,ELON,ZV-759d,ZV-307b,ZV-307e,Harmonia,Demeter,Nascent,Norwick,Etherwind,Ice Station Alpha,Electronica,QJ-382g # OF BASES >>,7,10,16,6,16,1,10,4,4,1,2,18,10,7,9,8,5,2,2 Production buildings only, please. Large stacks of buildings... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mbOnoFA9JiMc_qz0UNltUqlTsBCcKWmFcx4bQ9TVBu8/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyLmRZAmcPAh96mrisKDGdRP-EjQIO0q0KCxtPtDOYA6zVmGGjuWzM0AJsCzutVR3uwM8ONyxLEdwvoUgPFxsI8iWIZY-2nf_Py6bnRvFf84EGL3mhe3%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [02-Jun-24 04:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 3) The planet tracker and player activity list have been refreshed from the somewhat flakey calculation sheet. [02-Jun-24 05:28 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 finally got 3 ships on the go, very happy {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [02-Jun-24 05:28 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1246953493906980864/image.png?ex=68149e30&is=68134cb0&hm=decc406d0e03513f38adb559bb037d2c07f489c504cc4592c03ff2795b652b47& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [02-Jun-24 05:28 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 just need to upgrade A & B to Mk.3 [02-Jun-24 06:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 That third ship makes it feel like a completely new game ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jun-24 06:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Itโ€™ll make my life so much easier too once they are all upgraded [02-Jun-24 06:01 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Couldnโ€™t have done it without OOG, especially Allocater and the loan ๐Ÿ˜Ž [02-Jun-24 06:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Next up, a Horizibird [03-Jun-24 06:23 AM] katinga#0000 Why don't my Settlers show here? It's supposed to be a Workforce Overview {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1247148746584883231/image.png?ex=6814ab48&is=681359c8&hm=e9af4e31c791fbbfd34207befdeba92d35df5ac9fea5da245abae245147070b3& [03-Jun-24 06:32 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Try refreshing the page {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Jun-24 07:38 AM] sidepipe#0000 I got these from Higgsy as well. Let me know if anyone uses these - they seem like they're used infrequently enough that auctioning them doesn't make sense: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1247167514241142857/image.png?ex=6814bcc2&is=68136b42&hm=88a4772928ec687ac057815037d1fe553ecce830e8deab753773cc3e2704e440& [03-Jun-24 07:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 Also, all of these Afabs for your HQ upgrading needs ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1247167711214047252/image.png?ex=6814bcf1&is=68136b71&hm=233b9ed45d91dc6853a08d3d4ca71e94e6bd600482020cdf1587022b911ad0d4& [03-Jun-24 08:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I need 60 ADE for my next HQ upgrade [03-Jun-24 08:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 send cont ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [03-Jun-24 08:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 I would hold onto them, but I won't need afabs for a long time yet ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Jun-24 08:14 AM] churavis#0000 I believe that me and Allocator are the only ones that have the prefab plants to use these. I'll take half or all if he doesn't want any [03-Jun-24 08:21 AM] sidepipe#0000 You can send for 3 of each now and Iโ€™ll check with allocater about the rest ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Jun-24 08:23 AM] churavis#0000 I'd rather not do extra contracts and I don't need them right away, check with @allocater and then we'll do the contracts after {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Jun-24 08:26 AM] allocater#0000 I don't need any {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Jun-24 08:52 AM] churavis#0000 Looks like EvoV is trying to corner the LDE market [03-Jun-24 08:54 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Absolutely, feeling the benefits already. Can ship consumables and still have 2 to ship my C and AL ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Jun-24 09:13 AM] sidepipe#0000 I just started making a bit of LDE. Should I start making more? ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Jun-24 09:14 AM] churavis#0000 If you've got the NL, go for it [04-Jun-24 08:45 AM] katinga#0000 I need to change CIS to AIC. can anyone help me with that? the in game currency exchange isn't a great feature [04-Jun-24 08:47 AM] allocater#0000 send me the contracts, exchange rate 1:1 [04-Jun-24 08:47 AM] katinga#0000 what type of cont would it be? [04-Jun-24 08:49 AM] allocater#0000 You sell your RAT for 1mil* AIC, and buy my RAT for 1mil* CIS. *insert any amount [04-Jun-24 09:02 AM] katinga#0000 k [04-Jun-24 09:05 AM] katinga#0000 like those 2 conts? [04-Jun-24 09:47 AM] katinga#0000 will those 2 work? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Jun-24 09:53 AM] katinga#0000 that went the wrong way {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [04-Jun-24 09:53 AM] katinga#0000 I got more CIS now :/ [04-Jun-24 09:54 AM] allocater#0000 swap and double currencies and send again ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Jun-24 10:36 AM] katinga#0000 I think it's right this time. [04-Jun-24 04:08 PM] akyantor#0000 Joined the server. [05-Jun-24 01:54 AM] akyantor#0000 Morning folks, Iโ€™ve added my company, planets, production buildings, and the limited materials I have for sale via internal prices to the spreadsheet (EPO, NR, perhaps C soon). I think I added them correctly. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) โœŒ๏ธ (2) ๐Ÿ™Œ [05-Jun-24 08:32 AM] martin1194#0000 Great [05-Jun-24 11:57 AM] martin1194#0000 How Prunner work? Is it getting data from FIO? [05-Jun-24 11:58 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I believe so [05-Jun-24 11:59 AM] martin1194#0000 But FIO website always loading loading and loading. [05-Jun-24 11:59 AM] martin1194#0000 Seem like Prunner is better than FIO D: [05-Jun-24 11:59 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Maybe prunner pulls data from fio and makes its own data base? [05-Jun-24 12:00 PM] churavis#0000 I'm sure it caches data to some extent [05-Jun-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 The FIO burn web page sometimes just needs a refresh. I think that's a frontend thing. The FIO API usually works better [05-Jun-24 12:05 PM] martin1194#0000 Just the front end issue. [05-Jun-24 12:06 PM] martin1194#0000 What is that Antares Development Initiative? The link was sent by Archiel. [05-Jun-24 12:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 Support group for new players (in the antares region) ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Jun-24 12:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 Australis started it initially to give grants to new players [05-Jun-24 12:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 but it has it's own internal market etc [05-Jun-24 12:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Help newbies out [05-Jun-24 12:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Bc the market is rough out there yk [05-Jun-24 12:08 PM] martin1194#0000 But not operate in the corp. [05-Jun-24 12:09 PM] martin1194#0000 I seee. [05-Jun-24 12:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 I got a 250k grant from them when I was starting out ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Jun-24 12:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 also from Archiel. it was a good time to start playing ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jun-24 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 So I used to send grants out personally for a long time. But then Australis started the ADI before he joined OOG. And they had a grant program, and I figured I didn't want to duplicate efforts or step on any toes. So I just pay my grants through there [05-Jun-24 12:18 PM] akyantor#0000 I benefited from the same scheme to the tune of 750k. A very helpful kick start, providing you had a good plan to use the funds. [05-Jun-24 12:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 And now there's basically no limit to your capital ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ธ (4) [05-Jun-24 12:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 I do also sell a good amount of RATs etc through the ADI. Everyone appreciates a discount on RATs ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ€ (2) [05-Jun-24 12:33 PM] akyantor#0000 Thereโ€™s a fairly active internal market for consumables and fabs [05-Jun-24 12:33 PM] akyantor#0000 As far as Iโ€™ve seen, within ADI [05-Jun-24 12:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 speaking of which, @akyantor - you get the OOG price on those now ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [05-Jun-24 12:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 70 for RAT and 60 for DW [05-Jun-24 12:35 PM] akyantor#0000 Nice [05-Jun-24 12:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 ...not that it makes a huge difference ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jun-24 12:36 PM] akyantor#0000 Better than a kick in the face {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jun-24 12:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Thereโ€™s an OOG price ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค๐Ÿคค [05-Jun-24 12:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 oh shit I never told you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ (2) [05-Jun-24 12:43 PM] akyantor#0000 Awkward [05-Jun-24 12:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 fiine, I guess Hal can have the OOG price too ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [05-Jun-24 12:43 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Meh [05-Jun-24 12:43 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Take my money [05-Jun-24 12:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 sure, as long as it's 70/u for RATs and 60 for DW ๐Ÿ˜‰ [05-Jun-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh you're a governor Hal, you get to be blue {Reactions} โ€ผ๏ธ (4) ๐Ÿ”ต (5) [05-Jun-24 12:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 that reminds me - should I give up the gov role temporarily since I'm between planets? I wasn't sure if it was purely cosmetic or not [05-Jun-24 12:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh wow! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [05-Jun-24 12:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 All the benefits today [05-Jun-24 12:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 and speaking of purely cosmetic role changes, can I have the bank of oog role instead? c: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [05-Jun-24 12:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 unless that one's for allocater only. I just like collecting roles [05-Jun-24 12:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 That one actually does stuff [05-Jun-24 12:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 ah gotcha. I don't want to do stuff {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [05-Jun-24 12:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 Although technically being a governor essentially makes you a "moderator" {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [05-Jun-24 12:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Responsibility? ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€ [05-Jun-24 10:53 PM] exeler#0000 New version of the bot released with the updated /project command. The message is now a "nav view" which means the message is split into pages with buttons to switch between them. Items still needing to be fulfilled are on separate pages from ones that have already been fulfilled. Contributions are now also listed next to the items they are for, so everyone can see what offers are pending, rejected, and accepted. I've also updated the messages themselves to be more useful, including having the bot do the math to calculate total costs to make putting in contracts easier. I've also updated it to send a message to the project manager when a contribution is automatically accepted. Overall, I hope this version is a lot more pleasant to work with. As always, please let me know if there's any issues or anything else you all would like to see added to it [05-Jun-24 10:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ooh I got a message from the bot [05-Jun-24 10:55 PM] exeler#0000 The update is also backwards compatible. Any existing projects will snap to the new style once someone interacts with them by placing an offer. Yours was almost done, so I bought an FSE off the CX and fulfilled one on yours to trigger the update ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Jun-24 10:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Haha [05-Jun-24 10:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 So are you going to buy a new ship every time you test the bot? ๐Ÿ˜ [05-Jun-24 10:57 PM] exeler#0000 Lol, might as well if people are willing to sell the parts. I bought 2 ships last time and my liquid assets didn't disappear like I thought they would. [05-Jun-24 10:58 PM] exeler#0000 Next time I might be buying bases though. I intentionally avoided calling this the `/ship` command for a reason ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jun-24 11:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah this is really nice now. Awesome job [05-Jun-24 11:04 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks! I had to re-think it like 4 times while making it... The `NavigationView` class that gives me all the buttons and handles page management was super nice until I realized it can't handle updating from anything other than buttons on that message, and that it can't be persisted. I had to resort to some truly "cursed" (quote from the dev of the library I'm using ๐Ÿ˜…) hacks which turned out to be surprisingly effective. Can't wait to tear even more holes into this discord api and library for the next feature ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿง™ (2) [06-Jun-24 02:46 AM] akyantor#0000 Morning folks, A quick question about the auction system. Does it have a fixed time to allow folks to submit bids, or is it auctioneers choice how long to wait for bids? May be a convention that folks generally follow. [06-Jun-24 02:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 You have to click `Finish` to finish each auction [06-Jun-24 02:49 AM] akyantor#0000 Ok, so whomever posts can decide when to finish. Cool. [06-Jun-24 02:49 AM] akyantor#0000 I may have some materials to post in a little bit, so wanted to make sure I understood how folks used the system. [06-Jun-24 03:16 AM] exeler#0000 The bot does close out auctions after 7 days, but it's intended just as a cleanup measure for forgotten auctions rather than some limit to how long an auction should be open for. Eventually I want to implement an option for an auction creator to set a different duration for the auction auto close to trigger. Not sure how useful it would be though since usually you want to send the contracts right after you finish the auction. So having it close at some arbitrary time where you might not be at the game is a bit questionable. [06-Jun-24 03:35 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh, probably fine as it is as it allows some flexibility. [06-Jun-24 03:36 AM] akyantor#0000 I mostly wondered if there was some convention on the time period that folks follow, but makes sense for this to not be the case. [06-Jun-24 07:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Shipping `AU` is interesting {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248256979055415307/image.png?ex=6814bee7&is=68136d67&hm=fe7e507c607afb295bbf9ea378dcc55179dea1ad687a0ae95b58c2f2e813ddf6& [06-Jun-24 07:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 https://youtu.be/8VESowgMbjA 2 min {Embed} Everyday Astronaut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VESowgMbjA [4K] Watch SpaceX Starship FLIGHT 4 launch and reenter LIVE! [TIME SUBJECT TO CHANGE] This is the fourth fully integrated full stack test flight of Starship and the mighty Super Heavy booster, the largest and most powerful rocket to ever fly. It produces over twice as much thrust as the Saturn V that took humans to the moon. The goal of the test is to get further along than IFT-3 in March, 2024. If all ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IitsHIrCEsN3ZPDfsNsFW57cSSe8UatdFgy5lSye_7c/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/8VESowgMbjA/maxresdefault_live.jpg [06-Jun-24 09:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 splashdown woo [06-Jun-24 09:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 I hate moving AU and BGO [06-Jun-24 04:37 PM] akyantor#0000 Looks like the servers have gone splat. ๐Ÿ’ฅ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡ซ [06-Jun-24 06:56 PM] katinga#0000 I was about to ask [06-Jun-24 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Been a while since theyโ€™ve been totally down like this [06-Jun-24 07:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 Does that mean I have to go outside now? ๐Ÿ˜ž [06-Jun-24 07:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yesh [06-Jun-24 07:42 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Time to touch real grass [06-Jun-24 07:42 PM] churavis#0000 Real grass got left behind on Earth centuries ago [06-Jun-24 07:43 PM] martin1194#0000 oh. That why I can not connect [06-Jun-24 07:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 Time to touch SOI? ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Jun-24 08:04 PM] churavis#0000 You could but it's mostly manure [06-Jun-24 09:35 PM] katinga#0000 grass is coming back {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248465336387502140/WALL-E_plant1.webp?ex=6814d833&is=681386b3&hm=6bf1e84edf1e52f8c26105c36248a3c21b2dec27ae277560569f9f6d063597db& [07-Jun-24 12:27 AM] akyantor#0000 Back to avoiding touching grass! [07-Jun-24 08:46 AM] sidepipe#0000 Does anyone have 2 AAR they could sell me? It's HQ upgrade time again ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Jun-24 08:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have them on Heph [07-Jun-24 08:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Perfect, name a price and I'll come pick them up! [07-Jun-24 08:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 16k/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [07-Jun-24 08:41 PM] zipatsu#0000 Down to my last 100k stocked up water on Moria after this player has bought an impressive 200k within 24 hours, it's the rich player buying up all of it without reselling it-scenario that I've been fearing would happen ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248814180157489172/image.png?ex=6814cb96&is=68137a16&hm=4618db27f883558c6da4468de347a5e5e9b082d4b5eb5e964d0331632a83e756& [07-Jun-24 08:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do you need more water at MOR? I have a spare ship and 20k water I can send ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Jun-24 08:49 PM] zipatsu#0000 Appreciate the offer but I've a feeling they'll just buy up everything until I'm out of stock completely, 's not super difficult to do if you're willing to spend ~10m total on raising the price of H2O there. I've listed 60/106k for now so that if they do end up buying it tonight I'll have some more to throw up tomorrow. I think it'll go back to me just filling most of the buys down to my price for a while again until they get bored of whatever it is they're trying to achieve by this ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 08:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 up to you! I have 40k spare water at ISA that needs to go somewhere, and I'm petty enough to make this as expensive as possible for them ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 08:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 I only have 2 bases supplying the Moria CX but it wasn't a super fast moving market generally which allowed me to stock up some 300k so it might turn out to be a good thing that it's all being bought up for now, only ''bad'' part would be the nice flat price line being interrupted again and I guess potentially the price of water rising on Moria but that's all part of the fun ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 08:57 PM] zipatsu#0000 Did see some players discussing H2O in game chat a few days ago with one of them believing I've been artificially inflating the price of H2O, which came as a surprise to me as I've worked on bringing it down from its high point, could be that this person's buying me out as a result of that but who knows really ๐Ÿคท [07-Jun-24 09:06 PM] sidepipe#0000 ..how cheap is H2O supposed to be? [07-Jun-24 09:09 PM] zipatsu#0000 Wish I knew, I thought 31/u was a pretty reasonable price given the amount of people buying and selling to me but it would seem the president disagreed :p {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248821091762442271/image.png?ex=6814d206&is=68138086&hm=ee75720aacf106885d4c27995858da9c0f1b088844616d4a9f4a5e48f5ad87cf& [07-Jun-24 09:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 oh man, he just fixed gas prices too ๐Ÿ˜› [07-Jun-24 09:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 or something like that. that guy is always good for a hot take, but I think 30.90 is super reasonable [07-Jun-24 09:11 PM] zipatsu#0000 There's also propaganda against me by the same player, I've to my knowledge only started actively buying H2O at the 30+ mark to bring it down to 31 and have never even been to HRT ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248821620324434042/image.png?ex=6814d284&is=68138104&hm=cf3e508911695879007175b187bdab6fa6441dd932e9aa4d9b27b555e7f59c3c& [07-Jun-24 09:11 PM] zipatsu#0000 's fun to read though [07-Jun-24 09:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 that's an interesting argument [07-Jun-24 09:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 wont someone think of the poor economy? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [07-Jun-24 09:13 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248822268876816484/image.png?ex=6814d31e&is=6813819e&hm=0f429978ab0f326ce4b6d40c6cc823a95eea0ce928aaf555235c2fb11eb8f2c3& [07-Jun-24 09:14 PM] zipatsu#0000 Pretty sure the H2O's mostly coming from me ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1248822432773701692/image.png?ex=6814d345&is=681381c5&hm=763b859868022a254db1aa5743ca21065db80bf88db0066f69504526c4f11e2e& [07-Jun-24 09:17 PM] zipatsu#0000 Will be interesting to see which way it'll go on Moria if I get completely bought out (ANT and BEN haven't been targeted yet), personally I think it'll go up if I were to stop selling for a while but I suppose it could go down too [07-Jun-24 09:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 it probably will go down once they realize they have 200k+ water to sell ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 09:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah I've no idea what they're going to use that water for as from a quick glance they don't appear to be a farmer (I don't really know non-H2O worlds though and the player buying it all is the governor on Promitor [07-Jun-24 09:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 Could be holding it to sell for more? [07-Jun-24 09:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 but that's bad for the economy, as we've previously established [07-Jun-24 09:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 it's not the president buying the H2O but by their rules it would be yeah ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 09:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Must be the name [07-Jun-24 09:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 UwU {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jun-24 10:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 My baseline over the last few years was 25/u, I think 31/u is plenty low, especially given the inflation of everything else [07-Jun-24 10:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also there's always someone to complain about prices being too low AND too high, often at the same time {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [08-Jun-24 01:32 PM] martin1194#0000 From now on, can stable provide 70 RCO every week. For each 500AIC. Tell me if need it. [08-Jun-24 01:41 PM] martin1194#0000 200 ALE each week. For each 750AIC [09-Jun-24 01:34 AM] martin1194#0000 I had update calculation fomular since it is not included all of base {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1249250374443991141/image.png?ex=68151053&is=6813bed3&hm=f266834636d2cbb7d0879d56eefe8f316c0b5610f21f17644df189086fd98cec& [09-Jun-24 07:03 AM] akyantor#0000 I feel like my Google sheets at this point are an ever evolving beast... just had to massively improve the sheets I used for tracking planned & inflight buys/sells to better handle having a lot more auctions/contracts in progress. *Keen to avoid liquidity issues when there are a lot of contracts/auctions in flight.* [09-Jun-24 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 @exeler any hope of SUN and OFF auctions soon? [09-Jun-24 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 you're my only source of SUN {Reactions} โ˜€๏ธ (2) [09-Jun-24 11:09 AM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/yetee-the-yetee-morning-sun-teletubbies-sun-gif-23495398 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/yetee-the-yetee-morning-sun-teletubbies-sun-gif-23495398 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/j5CM2yjZiZGDBhq8IjjXBALFyVN4M9xm8s3dEvc8Mlg/https/media.tenor.com/pknwZ7GL8qAAAAAe/yetee-the-yetee.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ด ๐ŸŸข ๐ŸŸฃ ๐ŸŸก [09-Jun-24 05:11 PM] akyantor#0000 If there's generally more demand than supply for SUN, then I could add it to my plan to expand onto Hephaestus next week. *Not an immediate solution.* I'm definitely planning to do at least some OFF, which seems the more popular of the two. [09-Jun-24 06:52 PM] exeler#0000 I just did some a couple days ago: https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1248179655094177870 How much SUN do you need? I have both OFF and SUN being made kind of slowly as part of a broad range of things, but I can burst out a ton for you on demand. [09-Jun-24 07:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 around 600/mo, right now I have 2 weeks supply but will need more [09-Jun-24 07:53 PM] exeler#0000 Cool, I just queued up 600, should be done in a few days. You want it all? On heph or ANT? [09-Jun-24 09:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 whichever is easier for you [09-Jun-24 09:37 PM] martin1194#0000 Is that basic premit also can have rating RN? [09-Jun-24 09:37 PM] martin1194#0000 I was disappear in game for while. [10-Jun-24 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 AMM market is drying up ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [10-Jun-24 01:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe Iโ€™ll start mining AMM somewhere - I use a good chunk for THF and itโ€™ll be useful for FER once I finally get around to building some [10-Jun-24 01:14 PM] churavis#0000 Neth does AMM auctions occasionally, I usually get what I need from him [10-Jun-24 01:14 PM] churavis#0000 Ask and ye shall recieve [10-Jun-24 01:15 PM] neth_havoc#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… [10-Jun-24 01:24 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe Iโ€™ll start buying AMM from Neth_Havoc ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jun-24 04:10 PM] katinga#0000 LF NS on Life {Reactions} โ˜‘๏ธ [10-Jun-24 06:03 PM] churavis#0000 If we don't have enough NS in the corp, someone could build an NS base on ZV-639d [10-Jun-24 09:17 PM] exeler#0000 I have a lot of extra NS. Got a whole base dedicated to making it and I don't use nearly that much. [10-Jun-24 10:34 PM] churavis#0000 Do an auction [10-Jun-24 10:44 PM] exeler#0000 Done ๐Ÿ˜„ Was hoping to pile up a little more before running one, but if people are needing it now I can sell. It's not a ton as I just restocked my bases the other day [10-Jun-24 11:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I usually end up getting about half from auctions and half from the CX. So the demand is there! [11-Jun-24 12:08 AM] .urpalhal#0000 like COL + CHP? [11-Jun-24 01:32 AM] churavis#0000 Yes {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Jun-24 01:43 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I make NS too on 639d [11-Jun-24 08:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 I make NS on 639d too, but use 80% of it. Still excess 35/d [11-Jun-24 08:33 AM] katinga#0000 I have the LST for someone making NS. so one of the ingredients is available [11-Jun-24 11:59 AM] neth_havoc#0000 I produce some NS, but not enough to supply my needs. [11-Jun-24 12:01 PM] neth_havoc#0000 Do we have someone who can supply TIO? I'm always in need of TI and do have some smelting capacity. [11-Jun-24 12:18 PM] melon164#0000 I could produce TIO on KI-401b but donโ€™t have the capacity to move it anywhere [11-Jun-24 01:18 PM] katinga#0000 2 spots in the KI hexagon for it. SE-648 might be a good spot, too [11-Jun-24 01:20 PM] churavis#0000 Can I buy a load of 1,265 TIO from you on KI-401b? [12-Jun-24 05:16 AM] melon164#0000 How regularly? [12-Jun-24 07:45 AM] sidepipe#0000 @domicius could you please terminate this contract? I sent everyone all the CL instead of their share by accident ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [12-Jun-24 07:45 AM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1250430831328100485/image.png?ex=6814be76&is=68136cf6&hm=8514490ceace83ba3df474ef2ad1e3fe6308b33c00a961feed3bb6c54dcd0e66& [12-Jun-24 07:47 AM] sidepipe#0000 I think you got the 50 CL already, but lmk if I missed you and I'll send it over! [12-Jun-24 11:40 AM] churavis#0000 Maybe every two weeks? I just built a new SME base to free up room for more ASM on Deimos so I'm still figuring out how much I'll need going forward. [12-Jun-24 04:50 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 Tempted to buy star supporter and name ZV-759g "Hydron" [13-Jun-24 04:02 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” [13-Jun-24 04:02 AM] melon164#0000 IDK if I have space for four more EXT [13-Jun-24 08:48 AM] churavis#0000 Just let me know when you have a load for pickup [13-Jun-24 03:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 booooo, shield upgrades are coming on the maintenance release shortly after the politics release (*rather than in politics) {Reactions} โ” [13-Jun-24 03:33 PM] hernanduer#0000 terrible news [13-Jun-24 03:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 molp said that when I asked about when the shield changes would come to the test server [13-Jun-24 03:36 PM] churavis#0000 You wish they happened sooner? [13-Jun-24 03:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah! [13-Jun-24 03:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 why not? [13-Jun-24 03:37 PM] churavis#0000 Your original comment was ambiguous as to whether you like the shield upgrades or not [13-Jun-24 03:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah, I am disappointed in their adjustment from release in politics to later [13-Jun-24 03:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 I would rather they come now so I can make money now [13-Jun-24 03:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 more time to stockpile them I suppose {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [13-Jun-24 04:40 PM] akyantor#0000 Does anyone know how long it normally takes for a release to go from the test environment stage to going live normally? [13-Jun-24 04:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 A month or so? [13-Jun-24 04:41 PM] akyantor#0000 Ok, so relatively soonish [14-Jun-24 09:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 Congrats to @akyantor for completing the one week trial! {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (6) [14-Jun-24 11:21 AM] emperyan11#0000 Ugh... stoopid question time. What's the command to increase available space on a base? [14-Jun-24 11:22 AM] churavis#0000 BS or the button on the left sidebar [14-Jun-24 11:22 AM] emperyan11#0000 My god [smh] [14-Jun-24 11:22 AM] emperyan11#0000 THanks {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Jun-24 12:08 PM] akyantor#0000 Thanks, so far so good. ๐Ÿ˜Š [14-Jun-24 12:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 I sent you your official in-game invite [14-Jun-24 12:31 PM] akyantor#0000 Cool, Iโ€™ll accept when Iโ€™m on my laptop [14-Jun-24 01:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 And I've roled you as a shareholder! Welcome to OOG ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Jun-24 01:21 PM] akyantor#0000 Thanks [15-Jun-24 10:42 AM] sidepipe#0000 Just noticed this incredible timing in the in-game corp chat ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1251562481331994726/DDC2FB8B-D05B-47FB-BDC2-40C035DBAE9C.jpg?ex=6814e7e4&is=68139664&hm=1f35a1ca17b8db6efc05cce2566274a589c0c413b4a020a5c46ec925c0bea634& [15-Jun-24 10:45 AM] zipatsu#0000 Haha, I answered the call! ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Jun-24 06:50 PM] martin1194#0000 bot is down [15-Jun-24 10:28 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks for the notice. It's back up now. Sorry about that {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [16-Jun-24 02:16 PM] katinga#0000 Does anyone have some NS to sell at ANT or Life? [16-Jun-24 08:26 PM] martin1194#0000 sent. [16-Jun-24 08:35 PM] katinga#0000 thanks! [19-Jun-24 11:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Should my third ship be a LCB or WCB ship? [19-Jun-24 11:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you got two WCBs, generally the third will be an LCB for a bit more variety / flexibility. They actually hold about the same amount of HAL (921 vs. 1000)... and I assume you do move non-HAL materials too ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Jun-24 11:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess if you just have C on Nascent, metal on Deimos -> Nike, and HAL from Halcyon... it's kinda a wash [19-Jun-24 11:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 More ALO fits in a LCB than a WCB [20-Jun-24 12:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 It took 8 ships before I built another WCB [20-Jun-24 12:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 LCB are definitely the most versatile [20-Jun-24 12:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I guess the next in the plan is SE-110d for C with 110b and Harmonia fueling those INC [20-Jun-24 12:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 So in that sense LCB would make a lot of sense [21-Jun-24 08:24 AM] sidepipe#0000 @churavis - sorry, I only read contracts after pressing the green button ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ’ฏ [21-Jun-24 10:49 AM] .urpalhal#0000 How do levels for WAR work? [21-Jun-24 10:50 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Bc I saw no difference between lvl 3 and lvl 4 [21-Jun-24 10:59 AM] mrsmith33#0000 It increases every second level [21-Jun-24 11:11 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿฅด [21-Jun-24 11:11 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Guess I shouldโ€™ve looked that up [21-Jun-24 11:12 AM] mrsmith33#0000 also, third WAR level is a weird one [21-Jun-24 11:12 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Whyโ€™s that? [21-Jun-24 11:12 AM] mrsmith33#0000 costs like second and first {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Jun-24 11:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 ``` Warehouse cost | WAR cost lvl | BBH/BDE/BSE/MCG/TRU |u/CO| units | ----+----------------------+----+-------+ 1 | 24/24/12/300/20 | 1 | 50 | 2 | 24/24/12/300/20 | 1 | 150 | 3 | 24/24/12/300/20 | 2 | 300 | 4 | 48/48/24/600/40 | 2 | 500 | 5 | 48/48/24/600/40 | 3 | 750 | 6 | 72/72/36/900/60 | 3 | 1050 | 7 | 72/72/36/900/60 | 4 | 1400 | 8 | 96/96/48/1200/80 | 4 | 1800 | 9 | 96/96/48/1200/80 | 5 | 2250 | 10 | 120/120/60/1500/100 | 5 | 2750 | 11 | 120/120/60/1500/100 | 6 | 3300 | 12 | 144/144/72/1800/120 | 6 | 3900 | 13 | 144/144/72/1800/120 | 7 | 4550 | 14 | 168/168/84/2100/140 | 7 | 5250 | 15 | 168/168/84/2100/140 | 8 | 6000 | 16 | 192/192/96/2400/160 | 8 | 6800 | 17 | 192/192/96/2400/160 | 9 | 7650 | 18 | 216/216/108/2700/180 | 9 | 8550 | 19 | 216/216/108/2700/180 | 10 | 9500 | 20 | 240/240/120/3000/200 | 10 | 10500 | ``` The table [here](https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html#warehouses) is off by one row on cost {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/legacy-tutorials/planetary-projects/index.html 6. Planetary Projects :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Well it looks like Iโ€™d have to get the war to level 7 for my plan on Halcyon ๐Ÿฅด [21-Jun-24 11:37 AM] mrsmith33#0000 If you want to have fun, try to find planet with WAR on level 2 {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅด [21-Jun-24 11:37 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™m just tryna make pick up of my HAL easier for others [21-Jun-24 11:37 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿฅด [21-Jun-24 11:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'll cover the BDE for all those upgrades, just send a contract for 1 AIC on ANT {Reactions} โค๏ธ [21-Jun-24 11:39 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Err wait wouldnโ€™t I need 5 war for 1000 HAL [21-Jun-24 11:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 level 5 would get you 1500t which is 691 HAL [21-Jun-24 11:53 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah no not lvl 5 but 5 WARd [21-Jun-24 11:54 AM] .urpalhal#0000 So lvl 9? [21-Jun-24 11:54 AM] archielvahr#0000 Right, level 9 [21-Jun-24 11:55 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Wow ๐Ÿคฏ [21-Jun-24 11:55 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I can see why most war are at lvl 3 [21-Jun-24 11:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 4 warehouses is pretty close though. [21-Jun-24 11:55 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah 931 HAL [21-Jun-24 11:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah the pickup thing is rough esp if you are expecting WCB ships [21-Jun-24 11:56 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ve been offering it to others since Iโ€™m at one ship rn [21-Jun-24 11:59 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Well I can get working on it once I build these bases Iโ€™m working on [22-Jun-24 12:04 AM] .urpalhal#0000 how to `/project`? [22-Jun-24 12:09 AM] martin1194#0000 U need to enter quickly. [22-Jun-24 12:09 AM] martin1194#0000 If u typing too long, the BOT will error [22-Jun-24 12:11 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh ok [22-Jun-24 12:11 AM] .urpalhal#0000 So type first somewhere else and then copy paste into the bot [22-Jun-24 02:23 AM] exeler#0000 Oh, I can update the duration if it is too short for people [22-Jun-24 10:18 AM] .urpalhal#0000 no i'm just brain dead and forget a lot of things as I write them [22-Jun-24 10:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 So - let's say I have 2 HYR. Is it worth it to upgrade my previous LCB ships with them, or would it make more sense to build a new ship entirely? It looks like it'd need a new bridge, crew quarters, and everything to upgrade, which feels like 90% of a new ship {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254100778419752970/image.png?ex=6814e95d&is=681397dd&hm=e49c57b38f7b17f1c63eb09887a8fee67a65e24571bf24a677d2bb3d63005b9e& [22-Jun-24 10:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 And then follow-up question - if I'm going all the way and putting a HYR in an LCB, what else should I add to it? ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Jun-24 11:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 Large FF and SF tanks probably [22-Jun-24 11:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 Seats are cheap. I think the STS doesn't add to repair costs [22-Jun-24 11:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 You might double check if the seats make a difference with the FSE. I think they can occasionally. [22-Jun-24 11:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 Cool, Iโ€™ll take a look. I donโ€™t really _need_ more ships right now, but I do want to use these reactors ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Jun-24 05:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 LSL are pretty pointless extra weight, MSL pretty much covers everything. On the other hand, I'd really like an extra large ftl tank [22-Jun-24 05:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 BGS won't matter for an LCB with FSE, it might work for a VCB though given the lighter weight [22-Jun-24 05:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 Could wait for the shields update before upgrading the ship, it's likely to reduce both maintenance cost and increase time between maintenance significantly [22-Jun-24 05:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 That's probably reasonable, especially since this is kinda a vanity project ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Jun-24 08:18 PM] martin1194#0000 @archielvahr Do u still have any help for new player in Ooga? Or only in ADI? [22-Jun-24 08:19 PM] martin1194#0000 I thinking if I help new players, I should help in Ooga or ADI. [22-Jun-24 08:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep definitely in OOG. And I just fill extra grants in ADI. [22-Jun-24 08:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 If any new people in OOG need help, just ask! Lots to go around! [23-Jun-24 03:09 AM] akyantor#0000 I suspect I'd benefit from some help when I eventually need my 3rd ship... but need to figure out when they'll be necessary. Will be getting a WCB upgrade in a week or two, which will make logistics a lot more manageable for the short term. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Jun-24 11:53 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i'm right in saying you can only govern 1 planet rn right? [23-Jun-24 11:53 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yes currently that is how it works [23-Jun-24 11:53 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 damn [23-Jun-24 11:54 AM] .urpalhal#0000 It will change with the next update tho [23-Jun-24 11:54 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 guess i'll just need to lobby governments for now ๐Ÿคฃ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [23-Jun-24 11:54 AM] akyantor#0000 Eying up a second planet? [23-Jun-24 11:54 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 well i mean i don't need to govern one but i want an other planet next to 759d where i can turn it into a chem planet [23-Jun-24 11:55 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 so i can have 759d all POL and the other all CHP [23-Jun-24 11:55 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 because currently i'm using 2 permits on 1 planet which i'd rather not [23-Jun-24 11:55 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Fair enough [23-Jun-24 11:58 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 potential candidate [23-Jun-24 11:58 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254480770119110667/image.png?ex=6814f9c2&is=6813a842&hm=e49b0ebdbf33b91357aad6440069f9999fea82a2a3c5e7b10fd1830e0e383e6c& [23-Jun-24 11:58 AM] uncle_leslie69#0000 only thing is the temp is ass [23-Jun-24 12:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 or this [23-Jun-24 12:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254481137871618068/image.png?ex=6814fa1a&is=6813a89a&hm=bf607f1dc4b8b596f0d84e3db4cf1309247e16f8655937c15d5ee89f451aa3e8& [23-Jun-24 12:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 it's either AEF & INS or TSH [23-Jun-24 12:00 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 either way it's expensive [23-Jun-24 12:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 IMO Iโ€™d take INS {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Jun-24 12:03 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 hmm, decisions [23-Jun-24 12:06 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i'd need to build an ADM and then build all the infastructure then a CoGC [23-Jun-24 12:06 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 too expensive rn [23-Jun-24 12:07 PM] akyantor#0000 I think there will be a point where I'd want the same additional chem option, but not for a while yet. [23-Jun-24 12:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 @uncle_leslie69 hmu if you need a gov [23-Jun-24 12:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've been between planets for a while now and also need another chem planet [23-Jun-24 12:25 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Are you on ZV-639d? [23-Jun-24 12:25 PM] akyantor#0000 I guess there will be a lot more need for folks to participate in administration post release... minumum number of elected positions will be 2 per planet (providing two people get votes). [23-Jun-24 12:26 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Isn't it 1 guy for small planets? [23-Jun-24 12:27 PM] akyantor#0000 It was originally, but was changed. From the forums (https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/how-governments-will-work-after-the-politics-update/6409) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254487936628428850/image.png?ex=6815006f&is=6813aeef&hm=ae9e94e4a67f8b651795db2f22298043adf56c38c105a0a81fb378c707dbadd5& [23-Jun-24 12:28 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I see. Then you only need 5 guys to run on all the planets in the universe [23-Jun-24 12:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm wondering how things will work once the update releases - will they just have elections on every planet in the galaxy that has an ADM? [23-Jun-24 12:30 PM] akyantor#0000 If 5 people can get enough votes across all the planets. [23-Jun-24 12:30 PM] akyantor#0000 Yes, I'd imagine the election cycle will be the same, but with more than one person elected (if more than one gets votes). [23-Jun-24 12:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 And are we mentally prepared to share every single planet in antares with Rise? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [23-Jun-24 12:31 PM] katinga#0000 I don't think he has enough puppets [23-Jun-24 12:32 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Just need anough people to vote for us [23-Jun-24 12:32 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, it'll mean more of a need for co-ordination on voting, if there's a desire to maintain a degree of control [23-Jun-24 12:33 PM] akyantor#0000 On the bigger planets he could only ever be one vote of five. ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Jun-24 12:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 And kinda related, maybe this was mentioned somewhere before and I missed it, but is it clear how exactly the voting will work? i.e. do we get 5 votes for 5 seats? [23-Jun-24 12:35 PM] akyantor#0000 My interpretation is one person, one vote still. [23-Jun-24 12:36 PM] akyantor#0000 That's why if you wanted more than one OOG member to be elected to a big planet it may require some co-ordination. If we all voted for a current member governer, then you'd potentially have 4 other seats filled with other folks. [23-Jun-24 12:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 yeah, that's what I suspect as well. There'll be some strategy there depending on how many people run on a given planet [23-Jun-24 12:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'd assume we'd want to shoot for a majority of OOG members so there's not _too_ much democracy on any planet we govern ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [23-Jun-24 12:41 PM] akyantor#0000 Either way it'll make planetary management a lot more interesting / dynamic ๐Ÿ˜› [23-Jun-24 12:43 PM] katinga#0000 yeah, but it's hard enough getting 1 or 2 people to run on planets, let alone 5 [23-Jun-24 12:44 PM] katinga#0000 I don't the player pool is that large, is it? Unless one player can hold office on more than 1 planet [23-Jun-24 12:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 you can hold as many offices as you want [23-Jun-24 12:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 and the parliamnet will shrink if less players run, acoording to the comments in that post [23-Jun-24 12:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 So if you're on a planet large enough for a 5-member parliament, but only 4 people run, you'll end up with a parliament of 3 after the election if I'm understanding this correctly [23-Jun-24 12:46 PM] katinga#0000 interesting [23-Jun-24 01:09 PM] akyantor#0000 Tbh, itโ€™ll be interesting to see what happens on larger planets. Just how common it is that 5 people run & get votes? [23-Jun-24 01:14 PM] akyantor#0000 I suspect it'll be somewhat rare for there to be that many. [23-Jun-24 02:15 PM] katinga#0000 does anyone have some OFF that I can buy at ANT? [23-Jun-24 02:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think it's absolutely unheard of to have 5 people running at once for the current governor system. 90% of the time it's uncontested.. 8% of the time some random newbie clicks run and doesn't say anything. 2% of the time it's an actual 1v1 actual competition. But I assume that will change once we get the update. [23-Jun-24 02:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 since it mostly comes down to packing the parliment, and those members don't really ned to do anything, so they can pile in [23-Jun-24 02:42 PM] akyantor#0000 Not yet, but I plan to be making a modest regular suppy from next week or so. [23-Jun-24 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 MrSmith did a nice writeup of those added costs here: https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/870777970367811604/1223285097424228474 [23-Jun-24 02:45 PM] akyantor#0000 I think at the moment it would seem improbable to most folks that they'd upset an incumbant. I suspect we'll see at least a few more volunteers when there's more than one member of each parliment... that said, I'd still be quite surprised if you saw many planets with 4-5 people successfully elected. [23-Jun-24 02:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 @exeler is my usual OFF supplier. I'll ping him in case he has a bit laying around [23-Jun-24 02:46 PM] katinga#0000 I wound up buying off the CX [23-Jun-24 03:08 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, I make a ton of OFF. If you buy regularly I usually run auctions once I have a good bit stockpiled. If you have a specific amount you need, you can let me know or run a /order. I usually make OFF as one of many things in my BMP, but if a large order comes in I have the inputs stockpiled so I can crank out a ton really quickly. [23-Jun-24 03:10 PM] katinga#0000 I had a buy order since yesterday. I had a ship at ANT when I asked a little bit ago. lol [23-Jun-24 03:20 PM] exeler#0000 Fair enough. I didn't check the game yesterday so I would've missed it ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Jun-24 04:18 PM] katinga#0000 it got lost in the scroll too. i almost couldn't find it [23-Jun-24 04:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe mildly interesting to some. I was playing around with trying to price options (european calls and puts) on different commodities using the Black Scholes model. Returns on FIM.AI1 are almost log-normally distributed, with just slightly fatter tails than the normal distribution: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254551176871940116/image.png?ex=68149295&is=68134115&hm=3ff7388c694421a4b74ecc052e7855ee0d9c0d94501393aa425dc9bc35f13a40& [23-Jun-24 04:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 I don't think it'd be feasible to write options in Prun because the liquidity just kinda isn't there, but it was a fun exercise ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Jun-24 04:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 Here's what they would cost if you did 7-day options on FIM anyway (Ks are the strike price, S0 is the current price for FIM). I can't guarantee any of this is correct though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1254553148392210512/image.png?ex=6814946b&is=681342eb&hm=45045300f6d16cca0bb6dc1c43875dd24f0c0145392451c4bc056033332a2491& [23-Jun-24 04:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 What might be more interesting is that you could use something like this to come up with confidence intervals for what prices might be in a given number of days. But again, it probably underestimates tail risk (so how likely a big price swing up or down might be) [24-Jun-24 08:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 release on Wednesday {Reactions} ๐Ÿš€ (3) ๐Ÿ™Œ [24-Jun-24 08:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 nice [24-Jun-24 09:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 oohhhhh that's sooner than I expected! [24-Jun-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 Does that mean we just got the last ever OOG dividend? ๐Ÿฅบ [24-Jun-24 09:45 AM] akyantor#0000 Well it was good while it lasted. A whole two payments. ๐Ÿคฃ [24-Jun-24 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah apparently so [24-Jun-24 10:19 AM] churavis#0000 With loans, the dividend is less nessecary as far as helping new corp members [24-Jun-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Highest dividend ever, with $9,696,300 collected this week. Bringing total dividends since 2022 to $351,067,670 [24-Jun-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Probably good though, a lot of that money is going to inactive players {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅด [24-Jun-24 10:27 AM] zipatsu#0000 Will have to pay my own warehouse fees from now on [24-Jun-24 10:27 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-1281766816980485400 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-1281766816980485400 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UyruKM1sOr1weRC98pZT6-hAEyar1C2BIgE96dLs0ZY/https/media.tenor.com/EcnAIQMBRRgAAAAe/squidward-spare-change.png [24-Jun-24 11:06 AM] akyantor#0000 I won't lie, the extra 300k for two weeks was nice while it lasted. ๐Ÿ˜› [24-Jun-24 11:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 i think it remains to be seen how we will pay for upkeep within OOG, so maybe there's money to be made there. [24-Jun-24 11:35 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, I'd imagine the market for fulfilling planetary government contracts will get a lot more interesting. [24-Jun-24 11:40 AM] hernanduer#0000 we'll be able to really see how the books balance per planet [24-Jun-24 11:50 AM] akyantor#0000 The real news is not the politics update... it's that they're now also going to show unit volume when hovering over the candles in the commodity exchange graph. ๐Ÿ“ˆ [24-Jun-24 11:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's with the maintenance patch a few weeks later [24-Jun-24 11:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 and the far more exciting news there is the shields changes ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [24-Jun-24 12:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 also systems/planets being ordered the same across all panels, omg that's so exciting [24-Jun-24 12:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that'll actually be really nice [24-Jun-24 12:11 PM] akyantor#0000 Sometimes it's the little things ๐Ÿ˜› [24-Jun-24 01:58 PM] exeler#0000 Am I gonna have to cart all my OFF to the different planets that need it myself now? Or can we embezzle some taxes by setting the price for OFF on planets higher and I keep selling to facilities maintainers for 60/u? [24-Jun-24 02:01 PM] churavis#0000 I assume that Governors will be able to give themselves the contracts to provide upkeep [24-Jun-24 02:01 PM] mrsmith33#0000 CoGC will be supplied as before [24-Jun-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah the contracts don't fill the POPI, basically governors will fill the POPI as before and write themselves payouts [24-Jun-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think it's reasonable to charge a small premium, but concerned citizens might ask for receipts. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Jun-24 02:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't generally keep track of POPI contributions but I guess I'll have to. Then I'll set a price and balance the books with payouts. [24-Jun-24 02:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think as an organization OOG could set a price list for upkeep items so we have something official to point at when we are doing our government payouts. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Jun-24 03:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 I know the current tax rate of malahat has some... premium built in for the POPI materials. I'm not sure how things will shake out with a public ledger [24-Jun-24 03:06 PM] akyantor#0000 Must be a pricier planet to operate anyway [24-Jun-24 03:07 PM] .urpalhal#0000 good thing we built tech bases instead of running programs [24-Jun-24 04:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I mean at this point with the unique makeup of malahat it's almost required to do something with techs [24-Jun-24 04:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't really know what Malahat is pulling in, but I think it's around 3m per week [24-Jun-24 04:09 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Well [24-Jun-24 04:09 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Youโ€™ll see soon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [25-Jun-24 02:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 I don't have a base on Aceland, tell me the chat drama ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 The rog drama? [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 if there is any [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I will gov ZV-639d, ZV-194d and will run for gov on SE-648c. [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 It was in AA [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 But [25-Jun-24 02:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 โ€˜hereโ€™s what I think will happen: - planets under 25 bases - will be easier for people like rise and myself to look after because they wonโ€™t require puppets. The management will be more tedious because even as a solo gov you need to use the whole motions nonsense to do everything, but perhaps tolerable - planets with 26-99 bases - these get 3 seats and are the worst part. Aceland just sits over this threshold, as do probably most other โ€œmidโ€ size planets with a few tens of thousands of pop. Managing these is currently trivial, but after the update everything needs to go via a committee and get 3 votes. Recently I updated the SST and INF on aceland because the happiness and Archiels sheet said it was probably a good idea. I did this by justโ€ฆ bringing the mats and doing it, took me like 12 hours after deciding to do it to have it done. Fuck having to do this through a fucking committee, Iโ€™d rather quit the game. - planets with > 100 bases - 5 seats. Maybe this will fix the classic OOG problem of neglecting big planets because theyโ€™re harder, but probably not since what weโ€™ll get in practice is 5 OOG seats. I think the classically well-managed starters will see existing governors who are otherwise performing well leaveโ€™ [25-Jun-24 02:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 โ€˜but I accept my take might be too cynical. I find this whole update very frustrating. Thereโ€™s so many other things wrong with the game that couldโ€™ve been fixed, fuck we still have that stupid โ€œcanโ€™t update just the qty or commodityโ€ in a contd that was introduced in the i18n patch and itโ€™s been a good 6 months, and yet here we are with the next patch completely wasted imoโ€™ [25-Jun-24 02:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Rog in AA behind the member requirement [25-Jun-24 02:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 sounds very sour [25-Jun-24 02:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 also love the "neglecting big planets" [25-Jun-24 02:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yes ๐Ÿ˜… itโ€™s like which ones ๐Ÿง [25-Jun-24 02:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 Where are my SCI? Iโ€™m only running at 99.9% efficiency?! [25-Jun-24 02:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฉ [25-Jun-24 02:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 dude, the drama Rise pulled out of his ass on Nike when there was 2% missing ENGs is monumental {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [25-Jun-24 02:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 and now what, after all the whining and about 2 months? there's 15% unemployment [25-Jun-24 02:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 lots of wasted POPI resources [25-Jun-24 02:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 Because thereโ€™s a double standard for โ€˜well-managed planetโ€™ for him [25-Jun-24 02:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well-managed = extremely oversupplied at a loss to the gov for everyone else. [25-Jun-24 02:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well-managed = whatever heโ€™s doing for him {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [25-Jun-24 02:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think this update will do wonders for accountability [25-Jun-24 02:39 PM] hernanduer#0000 we'll be able to see decisions and account books [25-Jun-24 02:40 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Idk someone from AA idk who it was, told me to supply only OFF to Halcyon [25-Jun-24 02:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Was that rog as well? [25-Jun-24 02:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Idk either him or rise [25-Jun-24 03:57 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 @parisinspringtime did you mean this? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255265751745564783/image.png?ex=68148914&is=68133794&hm=f1e99200044306d0636d876a8121db718a1abe67fc3a6dbf7fc29e33de290a2e& [25-Jun-24 03:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 We can see the double standard he's got from the POPIs alone. It's just that with Rise's model, most people don't realize he's supposed to be doing the planet, they just see an unfamiliar new player in the government slot {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅด [25-Jun-24 03:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 His puppet planets ๐Ÿ˜’ [25-Jun-24 04:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 there, fancy conditional formatting applied [25-Jun-24 04:02 PM] akyantor#0000 Cool [25-Jun-24 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ooh are we gonna try to be on the council for Heph? [25-Jun-24 04:09 PM] akyantor#0000 It would be funny to have at least one member. ๐Ÿ˜› [25-Jun-24 04:09 PM] akyantor#0000 I'd suspect we may have the numbers to swing it [25-Jun-24 04:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm not sure I can handle that level of animosity in my life ๐Ÿ˜› [25-Jun-24 04:10 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, probably not worth it. [25-Jun-24 04:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Like it wouldn't hurt to have someone on there, especially someone Rise doesn't already hate. I assume he will intend to keep doing things on his own if the parliament members don't try to stop him. Which is fine for Heph {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Jun-24 04:11 PM] akyantor#0000 WU-070a is one of my expansion target planets, so may volunteer to try for governer there if no-one else goes for it [25-Jun-24 04:11 PM] akyantor#0000 Just won't have a base there for a little bit [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] akyantor#0000 Maybe see if no-one else goes for it between now and then [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Still no one running there so, the planet is up for grabs. [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 You have 5d 16hr [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] akyantor#0000 I've just blown my cash on 759d [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Want more cash? I can make that happen ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] akyantor#0000 I was going to setup GL manufacturing there [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] akyantor#0000 Or at least that was my plan [25-Jun-24 04:12 PM] katinga#0000 did you have to repair your houses and hotels? [25-Jun-24 04:13 PM] akyantor#0000 I may keep an eye on it, if there's no moment tomorrow. I may ask to borrow the cash to at least setup a base and the EXT. [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, happy to help make that happen [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] akyantor#0000 It's actually a cheap one to setup [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] akyantor#0000 so wouldn't take me long to pay back [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] akyantor#0000 may have half the cash now [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [25-Jun-24 04:14 PM] akyantor#0000 Cool, will let you know [25-Jun-24 04:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 I bet it's well under 2m for the base, I probably don't need that back [25-Jun-24 04:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Pretty cheap to have another planet under our rule ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jun-24 04:16 PM] akyantor#0000 This was my short term plan (only around 500k): https://prunplanner.org/shared/a9f04924-5670-4c1d-bd46-a89ef9af926f [25-Jun-24 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 of course, there's only so many votes [25-Jun-24 04:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it's a triple green planet and I got a decent pile of Lfabs on ANT, [25-Jun-24 04:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 and the planet is of vital importance to us. It's not like I'll get in his way, I just want accountability ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜‚ [25-Jun-24 04:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't believe in short term plans, max that baby out [25-Jun-24 04:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 As long as we don't accidentally vote you into governorship. The threat there is to Rise's ego more than anything else ๐Ÿ˜‰ [25-Jun-24 04:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 oof yeah, probably a couple OOG on it, that'll split our votes ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jun-24 04:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 I thought it was 100 bases = 5? [25-Jun-24 04:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 150 I think they said [25-Jun-24 04:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah ok [25-Jun-24 04:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cause Nike actually just barely made it [25-Jun-24 04:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 We have 15 Oogers on Heph and 5 on WU-070a [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 15 boogers {Reactions} ๐Ÿคง (2) [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 the available plots are reduced by other things too, it looks like Nike is showing 223/373 [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] akyantor#0000 ๐Ÿ˜› [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 I say we vote someone in at Riseโ€™s votes -1 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 so Nike might not make the cutoff [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 Just to keep him on his toes ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jun-24 04:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh that's true Hern, it might be just under [25-Jun-24 04:24 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 we trying to overthrow rise on heph? [25-Jun-24 04:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 no no, just proper representation [25-Jun-24 04:25 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 i'm confused.com [25-Jun-24 04:25 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 what you mean? just represent OOG in parliment too instead of all filth and his pawns? [25-Jun-24 04:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 Just adding one OOG member to the parliament to make a statement. No changes to government otherwise [25-Jun-24 04:25 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 ahh i thought we were wanting to overthrow him lmao [25-Jun-24 04:25 PM] katinga#0000 I can sit on a few [25-Jun-24 04:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 Plus that gives us info to respond next time someone makes a mistake while governing and gets dragged in chat ๐Ÿ˜‡ [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 I say we just coop heph [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 for the lols [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Co-op? Or Coup de tat? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 2nd [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜‚ [25-Jun-24 04:27 PM] uncle_leslie69#0000 https://tenor.com/view/one-less-loose-end-mw2-gif-24942919 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/one-less-loose-end-mw2-gif-24942919 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lh63bm5tMNtAgSXNdW1Tzr40j1NrmK64QFPZqMzSX3I/https/media.tenor.com/Z3lRhqI1SGQAAAAe/one-less.png [25-Jun-24 04:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 @parisinspringtime you already sent me the CONT for the NE โ˜บ๏ธ [25-Jun-24 05:00 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 ๐Ÿคก [25-Jun-24 05:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean Iโ€™d take it [25-Jun-24 05:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 But like my max daily use is like maybe 50/d [26-Jun-24 01:30 AM] akyantor#0000 Server down, release deployment underway... wonder how long it'll take. [26-Jun-24 01:52 AM] akyantor#0000 I don't want to jink it, but appears to be back up for me [26-Jun-24 08:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 hmm I'm not seeing proper fees on government context [26-Jun-24 08:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 surely more than 3 jobs have started in the last few hours on Nike [26-Jun-24 08:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 I think theyโ€™ll come in in batches every 24 hours is what I saw on the main discord [26-Jun-24 08:35 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Also, old orders are going to old destination {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255516854240284735/image.png?ex=6814ca30&is=681378b0&hm=bc26038a1e199a284efbd120e976c65bf4dd450127a64f6c5b2de817400d6b3f& [26-Jun-24 08:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 I hope the old payouts still happen. we have 3.7m in the `corpfin` account, so I think they will [26-Jun-24 08:47 AM] hernanduer#0000 it still shows the countdown to Sunday too [26-Jun-24 08:47 AM] hernanduer#0000 and given some people run weeks long jobs, it's likely there will be money trickling in for the next month [26-Jun-24 08:47 AM] hernanduer#0000 yay 100 AIC payout ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 08:52 AM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/tlZU5OaK0yk.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/uncle-scrooge-mcduck-money-rich-gif-16106896517431601354 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zkxnF65Io7-MVh3jL3xX2tQi2kVANsYJDibJAkcxe1Q/https/media.tenor.com/34cxC2t8qMoAAAAe/uncle-scrooge-mcduck-money.png [26-Jun-24 10:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 there was a pro discount code, only got it in my email [26-Jun-24 10:31 AM] hernanduer#0000 REALPOLITIK through 6/30 for 15% off [26-Jun-24 12:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I wonder if I got a similar email [26-Jun-24 12:54 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Anywho if there are space elevators, would ships get bigger? Since they wouldnโ€™t have to land? [26-Jun-24 12:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 here's hoping [26-Jun-24 12:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Wait [26-Jun-24 12:56 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Couldnโ€™t we just have big ships anyways and use smaller ships to bridge the gap between surface and ship [26-Jun-24 12:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 you can't transfer in orbit, I think [26-Jun-24 12:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think space elevators are just gonna be cheaper take offs and landings, in terms of SF costs. I would love for them to be something cooler though ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 12:59 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Big ships that can only dock at space elevators would be cool [26-Jun-24 01:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think there's definitely room in the game for bigger ships like that [26-Jun-24 01:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 I could fill a 10k/10k ship often enough to justify one [26-Jun-24 01:06 PM] max.kalina#0000 Joined the server. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [26-Jun-24 01:15 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Hauling stuff between Corp CX warehouses with big ships [26-Jun-24 01:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Like there are ships (granted they are in water) that move like 400kTon of ore. Thatโ€™s like 100x the WCB [26-Jun-24 01:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh man, having a mix of huge cargo ships that can only stop at certain ports and smaller ships that go everywhere would be much more interesting [26-Jun-24 01:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Or massive ships that are CoOp kinda like a container ship [26-Jun-24 01:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Imagine that + letting people bid on cargo space [26-Jun-24 01:21 PM] mrsmith33#0000 proper containers [26-Jun-24 01:21 PM] mrsmith33#0000 and multi-material contracts {Reactions} ๐Ÿคค (4) [26-Jun-24 01:22 PM] mrsmith33#0000 and auto-fill ships with repair/supply materials for specific base from CX inventory [26-Jun-24 01:23 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Being able to give ships a sequence of pick-up/drop-off orders would be great too [26-Jun-24 01:24 PM] katinga#0000 Has anyone else lost the consumable burn rate in their workforce windows? It's gone on mine. [26-Jun-24 01:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 ```Saganaki: Be aware Until I can get a fix in-place, switching to a Governor context with the new patch will corrupt your FIO data. (You can always reset your data via settings).``` [26-Jun-24 01:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Could be why [26-Jun-24 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 isn't PMMG separate from FIO? [26-Jun-24 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 I thought PMMG handled that [26-Jun-24 01:25 PM] katinga#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255589804356276264/image.png?ex=68150e21&is=6813bca1&hm=c426ec6e7686a4f818b6f5a2b83b8926cdbd2d3ec510d7e4e2762237bf1209ad& [26-Jun-24 01:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 I just discovered `xit burn` so I'm hoping that takes all fio needs from me [26-Jun-24 01:26 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I only use ^ [26-Jun-24 01:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 I still see mine [26-Jun-24 01:26 PM] katinga#0000 mine are gone on all my bases [26-Jun-24 06:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 Hey, does anyone have a base on KI-401d or know anyone who does? [26-Jun-24 06:48 PM] churavis#0000 I do [26-Jun-24 06:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have had these sitting in a WAR there for probably over 100 days now. Anyone is welcome to them {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255671114739482724/image.png?ex=6814b11a&is=68135f9a&hm=4f2fe29c3b49ca06c3ba687c236dbf5674fa2f022afe2efa1968dc1068a872db& [26-Jun-24 06:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 please take them so I can close this warehouse? ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 06:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 i'll even send you the contracts [26-Jun-24 06:49 PM] churavis#0000 You drive a hard bargain but I'll take it [26-Jun-24 06:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 if I could do it in one contract I'd even pay you to take them at this point [26-Jun-24 06:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 just don't tell your PIO how old they are ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 06:50 PM] churavis#0000 You are welcome to an equally valuable amount of H on ANT if you also send the contract for that [26-Jun-24 06:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 Deal - 500 work? It's not quite equally valuable, but I only use 12 a day ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [26-Jun-24 06:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 and the peace of mind of not having to fly another ship out there eventually is priceless ๐Ÿ˜Œ [26-Jun-24 07:05 PM] katinga#0000 they're spam and hardtack. the PIOs won't know the difference [26-Jun-24 07:08 PM] churavis#0000 Spam has some meat in it, RAT is not made with real or fake meat at all, just plants genetically modified to include extra protein. [26-Jun-24 07:10 PM] churavis#0000 Only our highest tier of workers get to eat real meat [26-Jun-24 07:10 PM] katinga#0000 it's the impossible RAT with plant based chicken substitute! lol [26-Jun-24 07:10 PM] katinga#0000 yuppy RATs [26-Jun-24 07:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 GRN, BEA, and VEG for those. Sooo... equal parts tofu, wheat, and extra-fatty fruits? [26-Jun-24 07:12 PM] katinga#0000 meat substitute Spam? Just add salt. lots of it [26-Jun-24 07:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 HAL costs extra ๐Ÿ˜‰ [26-Jun-24 07:13 PM] churavis#0000 No, all RAT has either protein rich beans, protein rich algae or energy rich nuts (which already have high amounts of protein) [26-Jun-24 07:13 PM] katinga#0000 You have no imagination {Reactions} โ“ [26-Jun-24 07:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 So itโ€™s the super tofu made from super soybeans ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 07:14 PM] churavis#0000 super soybeans, super algae or super nuts [26-Jun-24 07:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 The future is super nuts [26-Jun-24 07:15 PM] katinga#0000 sidepipe made a comment about shelf life of his RATs and I was trying to make jokes. you kinda killed it Churaviis [26-Jun-24 07:16 PM] churavis#0000 You don't think super nuts is funny? [26-Jun-24 07:17 PM] katinga#0000 how about plant based pemmican? haha [26-Jun-24 07:19 PM] churavis#0000 I've made pemmican before, it's bad enough when it's meat based [26-Jun-24 07:20 PM] katinga#0000 well when the game calls it rations. it makes me think of ration bars you see in sci fi movies and books. so plant based pemmican isn't a stretch. it's not like we want our PIOs to enjoy life or anything [26-Jun-24 07:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 Three square square meals a day, all you can drink coffee substitute, and one overall a week! Whatโ€™s not to love? ๐Ÿ˜ [26-Jun-24 07:23 PM] churavis#0000 Pemmican is dried ground beef soaked in lard/talo. What would plant based pemmican be, grits soaked in crisco? [26-Jun-24 07:24 PM] katinga#0000 something like a KIND bar but worse? [26-Jun-24 07:24 PM] churavis#0000 An UNKIND bar? [26-Jun-24 07:25 PM] katinga#0000 wait they get PWO and OVE. PIOs don't seem to want to do the laundry either [26-Jun-24 07:26 PM] churavis#0000 I assumed they just worked so hard they wore them out frequently [26-Jun-24 07:26 PM] churavis#0000 Also, I assumed PWO were worn underneath the OVE, basically padded underwear [26-Jun-24 07:27 PM] katinga#0000 UNDER? What's the O in PWO stand for? Under overalls? are they puffed up long johns? [26-Jun-24 07:29 PM] churavis#0000 Why else would they need both at the same time? [26-Jun-24 07:29 PM] katinga#0000 strictly speaking. the PWO isn't essential [26-Jun-24 07:29 PM] churavis#0000 Why else would they use both at the same time? [26-Jun-24 07:30 PM] katinga#0000 In my case, I have no idea. most of my PIO are either mining, smelting, or raising crops. not sure what they need all that padding for. they're not playing hockey [26-Jun-24 07:32 PM] churavis#0000 You don't think there's a risk of falling or getting hit by heavy equipment in a mine, smelter or industrial farm? [26-Jun-24 07:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 Should we petition for hard hats then? ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jun-24 07:33 PM] katinga#0000 Gloves? steel toes? protective eyewear? [26-Jun-24 07:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 On second thought, maybe not. That sounds expensive [26-Jun-24 07:35 PM] churavis#0000 I assumed a hard hat, eyewear and hard toed boots were part of the OVE, why else would it need PE/PG? {Reactions} โ€ผ๏ธ [26-Jun-24 07:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think youโ€™re onto something [26-Jun-24 07:36 PM] katinga#0000 artificial fabric. [26-Jun-24 07:37 PM] churavis#0000 But the RCO/COT provide the fabric part [26-Jun-24 07:37 PM] katinga#0000 a lot of clothing materials we have irl are synthetic with plastics mixed in [26-Jun-24 07:38 PM] katinga#0000 specialized materials, too. like hazmat suits, firefighter gear, etc. ya think the astronauts are walking in space around the ISS in cotton? [26-Jun-24 07:41 PM] katinga#0000 chemically, cotton and PG are similar. the main diff is the MG that goes into the PG. PE is just CH2 molecules [26-Jun-24 07:42 PM] katinga#0000 cotton is like 90% cellulose [26-Jun-24 09:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 just for those missing the Elon chat, Rise's ego seems to have gone out of this world [26-Jun-24 09:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 sad formatting, sorry [26-Jun-24 09:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255706715631128596/message.txt?ex=6814d242&is=681380c2&hm=3cdbf86b0bfd27b5da9dcbafc0de43cdb452a9775fa7b316515778f55332cb4d& [26-Jun-24 09:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's moderately better [26-Jun-24 09:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Kind of a mess all around [26-Jun-24 10:45 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Rise thinking he is God's gift to the game is hardly a new thing [27-Jun-24 12:38 AM] akyantor#0000 To be frank it comes across as greedy to a newer player. [27-Jun-24 12:38 AM] akyantor#0000 Let some other people have a chance to play that aspect of the game [27-Jun-24 12:39 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s not a good look now itโ€™s nakedly transparent, without the puppets fronting for him [27-Jun-24 12:40 AM] churavis#0000 Ironically, Rise made that same argument against the previous OOG governor of Harmonia {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜จ [27-Jun-24 12:52 AM] akyantor#0000 Is it possible heโ€™s over exposed on governance materials, either production or stock, and if he loses control of all the planet then heโ€™ll have some kind of loss? Or so wealthy that it doesnโ€™t matter? *I recall his most recent post emphasising that he wanted to maintain stability for at least one election cycle on each planet, so could infer a need to run down stocks.* [27-Jun-24 05:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 Nah, he wonโ€™t contribute to most of the planets heโ€™s elected as an MP on, just wax poetic about how much work he does overseeing everything while other people do the work. Iโ€™d imagine heโ€™s going to keep actively maintaining the 12-17 planets he was on before [27-Jun-24 06:08 AM] akyantor#0000 Fair enough [27-Jun-24 06:31 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s my cynical take, anyway ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [27-Jun-24 08:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think after this update, most planets will run at a surplus, I don't think Rise will be losing his own money on this {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [27-Jun-24 08:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 I guess I should be a bit more precise about what I meant here. His stated goal is that he just wants to do oversight and offer advice on a lot of these planets - take Halcyon for example. He gave Hal some useful pointers about what inputs are cheapest, and he generally knows what heโ€™s talking about. As long as heโ€™s offering advice in that manner (and not like he did on Nike, for example) Iโ€™m all for it. Heโ€™ll definitely keep governing the planets he was on before, and probably pick up a few he couldnโ€™t find some for (like that Chem planet he offered me, KI something something) [27-Jun-24 08:32 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m all for helpful advice. I guess from an image perspective what Iโ€™m worried about is that he portrays himself as taking an active role in the government of those โ€˜adviceโ€™ planets even as folks like Hal (in the above example) are doing all the actual hard work {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [27-Jun-24 08:32 AM] churavis#0000 We have plenty of governing expertise within the corp, Archiel literally made the Governor's Helper sheet. [27-Jun-24 08:33 AM] akyantor#0000 The language used at times appears paternalistic to someone who doesnโ€™t know him. Itโ€™s a little grating. [27-Jun-24 08:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 It can get a lot worse than that. Idk if you had a base on Nike or not at the time [27-Jun-24 08:34 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™ve never had a base on Nike. I think whatever happened there maybe predates me [27-Jun-24 08:35 AM] sidepipe#0000 But I think the best thing we can do as a corp is post more Archiel-style updates about our governance on whatever planet youโ€™re running {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [27-Jun-24 08:35 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, I think thatโ€™s definitely the treatment. [27-Jun-24 08:35 AM] sidepipe#0000 I feel like we have a tendency to make things run well but not tell anyone about it. We gotta let people know weโ€™re steering the ship {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jun-24 08:36 AM] akyantor#0000 Look at the changes as an opportunity [27-Jun-24 08:37 AM] sidepipe#0000 Well, more like get ahead of the โ€œrise is steering everything from the shadowsโ€ narrative {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jun-24 08:37 AM] sidepipe#0000 But yes ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Jun-24 08:37 AM] katinga#0000 anyone want to help me with this system I'm trying to develop? [27-Jun-24 08:38 AM] churavis#0000 That's a conversation for the Strategy channel. General is for things we don't mind visitors seeing [27-Jun-24 08:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Isn't #public-general for visitors? [27-Jun-24 08:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 Isnโ€™t #general shareholders only? (Iโ€™m too slow ๐Ÿ˜„) [27-Jun-24 08:40 AM] katinga#0000 I thought general was for any topic. General seems all encompassing [27-Jun-24 08:40 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m just asking because if itโ€™s not, Iโ€™m definitely gonna have to move some messages to #strategy ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคจ [27-Jun-24 08:51 AM] domicius#0000 I think that, once it's transparent that'll he's running on so many planets, it will become a difficulty for him [27-Jun-24 08:51 AM] churavis#0000 It didn't seem to make a difference on Elon [27-Jun-24 08:51 AM] domicius#0000 Give it a couple of terms. [27-Jun-24 08:52 AM] domicius#0000 Nothing kills engagement as fast as overexposure. [27-Jun-24 09:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 He also doesn't really run any planet that takes more than some SST and CoGC maintenance (besides Heph) [27-Jun-24 09:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think his ego is making him forget just how many resources running Deimos or Phobos takes [27-Jun-24 09:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 it's not some easy swap in swap out [27-Jun-24 09:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 also I'm kind of frustrated that no one cares about the effort put into maintaining Nike [27-Jun-24 09:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 (not here, just observances with people in chat) [27-Jun-24 09:04 AM] hernanduer#0000 dropping 135 ENG and somehow they all think I don't do anything, really makes me not want to do anything [27-Jun-24 09:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 this might help, but Malahat is a special beast lol [27-Jun-24 09:06 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s why itโ€™s just Archiel-style - I donโ€™t think most planets need that much detail ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Jun-24 09:07 AM] churavis#0000 Like we said, we need to be better about marketing how well we are doing on the planet's we're running. It shouldn't only be when something goes wrong that people pay attention. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jun-24 09:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Correct, this channel #general is shareholders only. Guests can only see the 3 public and welcome channels [27-Jun-24 09:11 AM] churavis#0000 I stand corrected [27-Jun-24 09:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, people really like short writeups about how a planet is going. If you can, it's nice to do those {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Jun-24 09:11 AM] hernanduer#0000 we did get this though ` A wild [UC] MaxKalina appeared. โ€” Yesterday at 1:06 PM` [27-Jun-24 09:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah the join notifications appear in here. I think I can move them if we want. He can't see his own join notification. [27-Jun-24 09:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah okay, that's fine then [27-Jun-24 09:12 AM] churavis#0000 Still, if a topic you want to discuss is important and you don't want it to get drowned out by other topics, the General channel is not your best choice [27-Jun-24 09:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 The reason I am very vocal with Malahat is that it has had a engineer deficit for quite a while now, and it's in a fairly unique place and I'm taking a sort of unconventional approach to fix the situation. [27-Jun-24 09:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also being super clear about the engineer shortage being something we caused with our EDC program helps give it some context- pointing out the sheer amount of growth [27-Jun-24 09:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 The Nike issue is surreal and a lot of people are parroting it. I've considered explaining it and showing larger and longer deficits on Rise's planets, but I don't really want to engage on that. I don't think you can win that with logic, even if I spend an hour making comparison POPI charts [27-Jun-24 09:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 Rise does run out of steam if you just don't reply, because, as he says, he's in it for the trolling [27-Jun-24 09:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 And I know Churv likes to feed the trolls ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐ŸงŒ (2) ๐ŸŽช [27-Jun-24 09:18 AM] churavis#0000 You're not wrong, but we really should do a better job of checking on each other. The mistakes of a single member will reflect on the whole corp. [27-Jun-24 09:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 I do agree with that. It would be nice to have, for example, COGC checkers. I don't know if we could do that with a sheet or what. [27-Jun-24 09:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 I also personally think running _any_ project every week is a good way to demonstrate you're an intentional governor. It's awkward because sometimes one isn't really needed, and some people have a weird thing against festivals... but people can point to "no project" as a mistake [27-Jun-24 09:20 AM] churavis#0000 Could you set up a sheet to automatically check each day if there is a COGC that needs to be fed within a day or something? [27-Jun-24 09:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 mayyyybe? Maybe someone else can take a crack at that? I'm still trying to get my planet tracker to be in better shape. It takes 400 FIO queries to populate it because you have to mix together /planet, /planet/sitecount, /user, and /infrastructure to make the sheet [27-Jun-24 09:23 AM] churavis#0000 Does FIO provide data on COGC or population infrastructure upkeep donations? [27-Jun-24 09:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 And FIO has sooo much bad user data [27-Jun-24 09:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 It shows COGC votes... start and end time (so we probably can figure the due date). I don't see contributions. [27-Jun-24 09:25 AM] akyantor#0000 I tried poking around in the APIs, and couldn't find endpoints for a lot of the useful data points. [27-Jun-24 09:25 AM] akyantor#0000 Also don't know how reliable it would be... [27-Jun-24 09:25 AM] churavis#0000 Due date you could put in manually and then just add 10 days [27-Jun-24 09:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://rest.fnar.net/infrastructure/Nike has each building but the upkeep/contribvutions fields are always empty [27-Jun-24 09:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think Yuen had a screen in Apex that was just all the planet COGCs [27-Jun-24 09:27 AM] churavis#0000 Doesn't FIO depend on someone with the extension looking at a page with the relevant data? Probably it's empty because no one is regularly looking at it. [27-Jun-24 09:27 AM] akyantor#0000 I've a screen like that. ๐Ÿ˜› [27-Jun-24 09:28 AM] churavis#0000 We should all have screens like that now [27-Jun-24 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 Two (as I'm on 6 planets) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255892434190204979/image.png?ex=6814d679&is=681384f9&hm=22ddd0e5427e3369400c2c1c8f3d222cf8a12a5a6a5902f3d9ba625a0ee550e5& [27-Jun-24 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 I've also ones for elections [27-Jun-24 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 Only takes a minute then to quickly scan all planets I am on [27-Jun-24 09:39 AM] domicius#0000 It's all about communication though. Filth has posted a massive comment, and then had a few puppets pip up about him. [27-Jun-24 09:39 AM] domicius#0000 You could do the same. We all should, really, [27-Jun-24 09:40 AM] domicius#0000 Although I think with a bit of tactical voting, as long as we get 2 OOGs into each big parliament, it doesn't matter who's the governor. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [27-Jun-24 03:24 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Pro-tip: I cut unneeded buttons with ublock origin, and now have space for 2 more base buttons {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1255982083302625320/image.png?ex=681529f7&is=6813d877&hm=8725ffed84150830f44e77d80bbd8dfb1cfb4e1e86a66082aff2c51110551d64& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿง  (2) [27-Jun-24 05:32 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 To add to this, I did entire write-ups when I took over Deimos from Bob (they can still be found on the UFO channel). That's because it was a hot election, and a number of people were upset when Bob was ousted, even though he wasn't managing properly. Those write-ups helped overcome the initial resistance, to where I don't need to post them anymore. With the new changes, I plan to post a summary in chat every time I feed the upkeeps, breaking down the costs vs the planet income. Since I know it's at a deficit every week, people won't want to change governors in case the new governor doesn't run the planet like a charity. [27-Jun-24 05:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 I plan on setting up a sheet regardless, to track the value of payments [27-Jun-24 05:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 Fund 100x RAT, get 10k AIC or whatever [27-Jun-24 05:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 I don't want to run Nike like a charity, but since it's not a starter planet that should actually be pretty easy [27-Jun-24 06:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 Having a sheet tracking what the planet โ€œowesโ€ you will help a lot with payout MOTS too, I suspect ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Jun-24 06:22 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Life had a deficit of SET for over a month after I first landed there and Rise and his puppet governor were not fixing it, so I did and then he basically jumped down my throat about it, so yeah, I'm not a big fan of Rise [28-Jun-24 03:23 AM] martin1194#0000 Seem like planet upkeep still can not use government money for buy material [28-Jun-24 04:16 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 You need to pass a Motion to withdraw the cash into your own wallet. [28-Jun-24 11:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 . ๐ŸŽ‰ Hello @everyone, especially our inactive and retired members! ๐ŸŽ‰ As you may know, the politics update recently released and we've had a ton going on in OOG. There's been a lot of close elections in ANT as we fill seats in the new parliaments. The introduction of governments as entities has also changed the way OOG operates, as we no longer receive dividends as a corp. If you're interested in re-activating at this time, please check out a few key upcoming elections and ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ Vote ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ for OOG members on these planets: * Nike * Griffonstone * WU-070a * Demeter We've received our final corp dividends, and if you're sitting on a bunch of money you're not intending to use, please consider donating it to one of our corp projects: * **QJ-382 Fuel project**: Katinga is developing a few planets in this system for fuel production. Send any donations directly to Katinga (co IHM) to help out. * **Project 6115**: OOG's secret project to colonize the only triple-green system in the game, on the outer reaches of ANT space, and to meaningfully use it as a triple Electronics system. Send donations to Archiel. By using the new Base Establishment Fee, we can choose to make this prestige system OOG only, or bring others in as the population grows. * **New player donations**: Allocater manages the OOG bank which has given out starter funds and cheap loans to our new players. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (5) [28-Jun-24 12:39 PM] yjhasaday#0000 Very cool to see OOG still going strong! I don't think I'm interested in returning, but I saw this message and thought I would drop in and say hi to everyone! If there's ever a universe reset someone send me a message, that would surely bring me out of retirement ๐Ÿ˜€ Hope everyone is doing well and happy trading! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (6) [28-Jun-24 12:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Definitely ๐Ÿ˜„ good to see you YJ! We'll let everyone know, for sure {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Jun-24 03:37 PM] katinga#0000 Hi there! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [29-Jun-24 01:29 AM] domicius#0000 I can give 60M AIC towards these projects. They were obviously a secret to me! [29-Jun-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Awesome, I'll tell @katinga to request some money for the #โ›ฝromulan-system project, and I'll send a request for #project-6115 . Honestly it looks like 7m (at corp prices) covers all the initial costs of the project- 3x ADM, LM, WAR, and COGC. The bfabs will probably be bought at MM prices. Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Jun-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey Katinga ๐Ÿ‘† [29-Jun-24 12:57 PM] katinga#0000 I am happy to take donations towards this project. the money helps, maybe some base sponsorships on 382c? we need bodies there [29-Jun-24 01:02 PM] allocater#0000 the new apex version does not auto-log-in after hibernation ๐Ÿ˜• [29-Jun-24 01:14 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, I'm constantly having to force refresh [29-Jun-24 03:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have been getting stuck on the white screen today (but not the last few days) , but I guess molp is working on that. [29-Jun-24 03:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 My game crashes while making CONTs then I get white screens [29-Jun-24 03:38 PM] tuffyless#0000 ditto. Kinda frustrating but not a show-stopper [29-Jun-24 05:21 PM] katinga#0000 same here [30-Jun-24 09:10 AM] katinga#0000 Do you still want to contribute? [30-Jun-24 09:57 AM] domicius#0000 I can contribute to the bfabs for this. I have 500+ of all bfabs. [30-Jun-24 10:00 AM] domicius#0000 I've paid the 7M [30-Jun-24 10:01 AM] katinga#0000 what 7M? [30-Jun-24 10:01 AM] domicius#0000 Archiel sent me a CONT for 7mil [30-Jun-24 10:02 AM] katinga#0000 that was for 6115, yes? That's a different project [30-Jun-24 11:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that was for 6115 [30-Jun-24 11:56 AM] Deleted User#0000 Joined the server. [30-Jun-24 11:57 AM] .urpalhal#0000 [30-Jun-24 12:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Welcome back @Deleted User ! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ [30-Jun-24 12:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Youโ€™re roled again, so you should be able to see all the channels [30-Jun-24 12:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Lots of interesting new stuff going on. Check out #project-6115 ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Jun-24 12:21 PM] katinga#0000 check out the info on #โ›ฝromulan-system hot new project in its infancy [30-Jun-24 12:34 PM] domicius#0000 Sure, I'll contribute to this project too. What would you like? [30-Jun-24 12:38 PM] katinga#0000 is 12mil too much? 20m would probably be ideal. I am essentially developing 3 planets. one will be completely from scratch [01-Jul-24 05:43 AM] akyantor#0000 Last payout was 194,250 AIC... not bad. It does look like there is still a slow trickle of payments into the corporate account. [01-Jul-24 06:27 AM] domicius#0000 20M is ok. Drop me a contract. [01-Jul-24 07:44 AM] katinga#0000 sent {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [01-Jul-24 03:20 PM] lancercaster#0000 Joined the server. [01-Jul-24 09:19 PM] katinga#0000 wtb prefabs and some INS [01-Jul-24 11:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ok so I'm building 2 more bases in Thalassa. b and c to compliment d that I already have there. [01-Jul-24 11:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 but what should I do after that? chill out? project 6115? [01-Jul-24 11:17 PM] katinga#0000 if you have permits available, I'd love more support for the romulan project. {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [01-Jul-24 11:26 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Not at the moment unfortunately [01-Jul-24 11:30 PM] katinga#0000 can you sell me some bfabs? [01-Jul-24 11:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Which ones and how soon? [01-Jul-24 11:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 And how many [01-Jul-24 11:31 PM] katinga#0000 I have orders on the #orders channel [01-Jul-24 11:31 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh I see! [01-Jul-24 11:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can but it will take me a week for all of them [01-Jul-24 11:32 PM] katinga#0000 I can take partials for now [01-Jul-24 11:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ok take what I have at ANT and I'll get you more later [01-Jul-24 11:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I make about 20/d of each (not BDE tho) [01-Jul-24 11:44 PM] katinga#0000 I may wind up buying some from the CX. [02-Jul-24 12:01 AM] .urpalhal#0000 If I just do one at Nike then 100/ day [02-Jul-24 12:02 AM] .urpalhal#0000 So I can at least save you a pretty penny for BBH [02-Jul-24 12:08 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Also if I cut out LBH and LDE from my queue then 33/d and if I also remove BTA then 50/d [02-Jul-24 12:17 AM] katinga#0000 i need other bfabs, too. I'll buy what I can get for now. I can buy more from you later if I still need it [02-Jul-24 12:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Well if you wait a week or so I can get you all the BBH, BSE and BTA [02-Jul-24 12:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Once I feed Elon, Iโ€™ll just start stockpiling all 4 BFABs [02-Jul-24 12:20 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Up to you tho [02-Jul-24 12:21 AM] katinga#0000 I can't really afford to wait a week {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [02-Jul-24 12:22 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Let me just make BBH then [03-Jul-24 12:40 PM] lancercaster#0000 I have a question. How exactly do auctions work? [03-Jul-24 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 You can start an auction with the /auction command. The person making the auction specifies the thing they are selling, the location, and the quantity they have. [03-Jul-24 12:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 You can then bid, by default for the maximum amount- although if you want less, you can bid for a smaller quantity. When the auction starter clicks "finish", the system evenly spreads out the available quantity to all the bidders, up to their requested maximum. [03-Jul-24 12:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 The prices are fixed, so as a bidder you don't increase the price - it's not like ebay [03-Jul-24 12:44 PM] lancercaster#0000 Oh! I see. So it's split between those who are bidding. [03-Jul-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep [03-Jul-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Orders are the same, but you use them when you want to buy something. [03-Jul-24 12:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 If there's a question about prices, then you just message them or bring it up in the channel. [03-Jul-24 12:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 The /project command is for when you are buying a ton of things, like ship components or a whole base. That has a system in place for price negotiations. [03-Jul-24 12:48 PM] lancercaster#0000 So are auctions for bulk selling? I have a few A-Fabs I get from the coop I'm in every week. Would anyone be interested in those, or should I build them up? [03-Jul-24 12:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Afabs are pretty high value so people would be happy to buy just a few [03-Jul-24 12:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's no real guidelines about it, but I'd probably roll my eyes if I saw 100 DW on there ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Jul-24 12:52 PM] lancercaster#0000 Hold on. Setting up a auction for 100 DW for 1,000,000/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [03-Jul-24 12:52 PM] lancercaster#0000 Gonna be rich I tell you! Rich! [03-Jul-24 12:59 PM] lancercaster#0000 Did I do this right?https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1258119741583790110 [03-Jul-24 01:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, looks good! [03-Jul-24 01:07 PM] lancercaster#0000 Gonna hold on to my ATA to sell them in higher bulk. [03-Jul-24 01:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Joined the server. [03-Jul-24 01:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 Afabs are always nice to have, a few of us are at the point where a single HQ upgrade is hundreds [03-Jul-24 01:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 only way to really get that many is to make them yourself [03-Jul-24 02:05 PM] churavis#0000 Agreed, if you need help expanding your Afab production, let us know. [03-Jul-24 02:05 PM] akyantor#0000 I'm working towards Afab production, hear there's money to be made. ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿค‘ [03-Jul-24 02:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome as a trial member, @shrewdsun_88540 ! [03-Jul-24 02:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Hello all, im returning to the game and im eager to jump back in! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (2) [03-Jul-24 02:11 PM] katinga#0000 welcome! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [03-Jul-24 02:15 PM] akyantor#0000 Welcome to the crew. ๐Ÿ‘‹ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [03-Jul-24 02:39 PM] lancercaster#0000 Thanks but I don't make them myself. Xd I'm part of a project in another discord that makes them. [03-Jul-24 04:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's a really good profit maker if you decide you want to make them yourself. I've been telling people that afab production is the true end-game material {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [04-Jul-24 10:06 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Joined the server. [05-Jul-24 01:06 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 how does the auction work? looks like it splits it equaly between people bidding? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‡พ (3) ๐Ÿ‡ช (3) ๐Ÿ‡ธ (3) ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐Ÿ‘ˆ (2) [05-Jul-24 02:25 PM] zipatsu#0000 It's more of a bulk sale thing where you can decide what the maximum amount is that you would want to buy at the given price, can also use it to just sell a single item too though. Then when the person who started the auction decides to finish it they'll send out contracts to the buyers (assuming the seller has Pro active), 's a nice system โœŒ๏ธ [05-Jul-24 06:35 PM] exeler#0000 Yup, that's exactly it. Auction is a bit misleading since it has basically nothing to do with how real auctions go. If you have a better name let me know and I can change it pretty easily ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Jul-24 07:38 PM] chobby_64343#0000 Joined the server. [05-Jul-24 07:39 PM] chobbycock#0000 Joined the server. [06-Jul-24 09:02 AM] zipatsu#0000 I think ''Deals'' might be more fitting (or Ooga Booga Deals for fun ๐Ÿ˜„ ) but am also a creature of habit so "Auctions" works fine too โœŒ๏ธ [06-Jul-24 09:02 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh, auction is fine. You're bidding for quantity than price. ๐Ÿ™‚ [06-Jul-24 09:03 AM] katinga#0000 not really bidding. you're just putting your name in the hat 'hey, I want some of that!' [07-Jul-24 07:11 PM] zipatsu#0000 ๐Ÿ’ธ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1259663057165226065/image.png?ex=6814b664&is=681364e4&hm=a4b62e422960831b8c04af82eadf5164a683adf1d3a9839337223a5898aaa5d8& [07-Jul-24 11:16 PM] spekktra_#0000 Joined the server. [07-Jul-24 11:40 PM] Deleted User#0000 welcome [07-Jul-24 11:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I made a few fun things on a placeholder domain: An adapted version of Taiyi's map! Click the "Show OOG" button in the top right corner to see all the OOG planets, colored by number of bases. http://oog.kortham.net/map/ Custom redirects for some google sheets: http://oog.kortham.net/r/governor-helper A landing page that is so ugly, it basically demands someone fix it: http://oog.kortham.net/ [08-Jul-24 12:01 AM] exeler#0000 Have you considered using something like caddy for handling SSL for this (or any other hosted projects)? It'll get rid off all those pesky warnings the browsers hit people with when going to http sites. I've been using it for all my stuff and it's super simple to set up if you don't care about flexing how much you know about nginx configs. [08-Jul-24 12:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have had success with Lets Encrypt certs, I just didn't set it up yet since I figured there would be a proper domain name soon [08-Jul-24 12:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 It is on a shared host, not one of my machines [09-Jul-24 08:03 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 If I were to make some Afabs to sell at CX, would the market be able to absorb it or would I need to sell through private deals? [09-Jul-24 08:09 AM] sidepipe#0000 I donโ€™t actually make Afabs, so others might be a better source on this, but they should sell. They might sit on the market for quite a while, but theyโ€™ll sell eventually [09-Jul-24 08:12 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Hum I might hold off a bit then. My liquidities are too low to be able to wait for sales [09-Jul-24 08:13 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m sure you could sell them here faster if you needed quick money ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Jul-24 08:13 AM] sidepipe#0000 But again, I havenโ€™t done Afabs yet, so others should weigh in [09-Jul-24 08:13 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Anyways for now I have loans to pay off. But Iโ€™m starting to think about my long term plans {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [09-Jul-24 08:17 AM] sidepipe#0000 Since youโ€™re in the Corp now, you can roll my loan forward as often as you need - Iโ€™ll just send you a new one to replace the old one ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Jul-24 08:17 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Should be ok, what iv built so far is within what I can pay. But Afab inputs are beyond my cash for now [09-Jul-24 08:18 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im gonna be sitting at about 30 mil in loans in a few days so i kinda need to chill a bit [09-Jul-24 08:19 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s some serious leverage ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Jul-24 08:20 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 When you HQ upgrades are so cheap, and the ROI is so quick it makes sense to borrow [09-Jul-24 08:20 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 But Iโ€™ll be at 11 bases and 4 ships by the end of next week so cheap expansion is kinda done [09-Jul-24 08:21 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, makes sense. I wouldโ€™ve taken loans early on but back then I wasnโ€™t sure if I was gonna play for 60 days [09-Jul-24 08:21 AM] sidepipe#0000 And here I am, 200 days later ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Jul-24 08:21 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Also helps that here is so much liquidity free in the game [09-Jul-24 08:22 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 When I last played about a year ago it wasnโ€™t the same [09-Jul-24 08:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 I find afabs sell fairly quickly on the CX. Sometimes they'll float around for a few weeks, then someone decides to pay for an HQ upgrade and they buy out a big chunk of the CX. Internally I think there's always a demand for them, because there's always a latent desire to work on the next HQ level... and most players have the capital, it's just a question of timing and asking [09-Jul-24 09:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have 3 PP4s making Afabs non stop (except for the random TSH) and it still takes me months to get the next level [09-Jul-24 09:12 AM] hernanduer#0000 there's always demand for Afabs ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Jul-24 09:42 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Thanks, Iโ€™ll keep in mind [10-Jul-24 08:38 AM] lancercaster#0000 I have recovered from Covid and I'm ready to start! If anyone has any projects they have in mind, I have a few permits. {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [10-Jul-24 10:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome back to the land of the living! [10-Jul-24 10:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 I bet that making AHP would be a good thing to get into [10-Jul-24 10:09 AM] lancercaster#0000 I was thinking of making more C by building a HYP base on Life [10-Jul-24 10:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh yep a HYF base can make a ton of carbon. Looks like you've got some water bases already too. I use Thalassa for a lot of those types of things. Since you can kinda do it all in system: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_GIraSu8DPm.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_GIraSu8DPm.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pHhVFqDATMwCNt_8zPnjiw-Y-J7RsANh9vT6JeCHXrc/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_GIraSu8DPm.png [10-Jul-24 10:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 But that's just since I've had a water extraction base on Ice Station Alpha forever [10-Jul-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 ...anyone have 4 LTA on Heph for some reason? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1260615100683915264/image.png?ex=6814e14d&is=68138fcd&hm=53b964bf8d19318582f1f1a7e63ec4c558c872693601690f169c207942371ad2& [10-Jul-24 10:15 AM] sidepipe#0000 not a huge deal if not, round-trip is 2 hours. just thought I'd ask in the meantime [10-Jul-24 10:17 AM] akyantor#0000 I don't unfortunately. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [10-Jul-24 10:21 AM] lancercaster#0000 Getting the FET seems like a big investment. [10-Jul-24 10:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, it's not too bad. This is how I do it: You can mix in ASMs with your SMEs, so that's not too hard to deal with. I buy and import most of my ore anyway since it's so cheap, so making AL/FE/TI/SI in one place is no problem. On Deimos, I only have two ASMs, so it really just reduces the amount of shipping per day I have to deal with for metals. [10-Jul-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 And all the ASM products are pretty handy. There's always a demand in the corp so I have just been sending them to Hern or other members as soon as I get to 100 of any type [10-Jul-24 10:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 AST is needed in pretty big quantities for LCBs for ships. The other ones go into other ship components [10-Jul-24 10:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 HWPs are also metallurgy so they could go on the same planet and you can do all the steps in one place and still get the COGC [10-Jul-24 10:46 AM] lancercaster#0000 How's this base potentially look? AL is being produced nearby. https://prunplanner.org/shared/6ca40ece-4c20-4ca7-9424-7339e3fbe184 {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/6ca40ece-4c20-4ca7-9424-7339e3fbe184 PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [10-Jul-24 10:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Looks good [10-Jul-24 10:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Metallurgy experts are set to 0 though [10-Jul-24 10:49 AM] lancercaster#0000 The base isn't built yet. This is just a plan. [10-Jul-24 10:49 AM] lancercaster#0000 At 5 experts I could make 14.27 AHP a day {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jul-24 10:51 AM] lancercaster#0000 Seems like a low amount but I guess this stuff isn't traded regularly. [10-Jul-24 10:52 AM] lancercaster#0000 Though FET is the limiting factor IMO...:spinthink: [10-Jul-24 11:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah looking at the plan, I think that's pretty good. [10-Jul-24 11:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 And I think we, as a corp, will commit to buying a lot of AHP each day, (right everyone..???) [10-Jul-24 11:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 And you can always flip to make other plates (although LHP go a lot faster, and that would be a problem) [10-Jul-24 11:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 I imagine if you ended up with a few hundred on the CX, ie: enough for someone to make a ship out of them, they would start selling on the CX [10-Jul-24 11:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'd totally front the cost and post them myself if you end up with more AHP than you can sell [10-Jul-24 11:09 AM] lancercaster#0000 Thinking about it 14 and a quarter doesn't sound too bad considering an advanced ship should only use 100 and those aren't built every day. [10-Jul-24 11:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. Today's patch will really shift things regarding AHP usage [10-Jul-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 AHP makes sense with the high end ships [10-Jul-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 if you pay for all the shields, you're losing a ton of money if not using AHP [10-Jul-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 vs just using LHP with no shields [10-Jul-24 11:15 AM] archielvahr#0000 Having the weight nearly halved (17t to 10t) for AHP is really nice [10-Jul-24 11:15 AM] lancercaster#0000 Oh! Just saw the patch notes on AHP. That's a big buff [10-Jul-24 11:16 AM] lancercaster#0000 I mean. All hull plates were buffed but AHP got the best one. [10-Jul-24 11:16 AM] hernanduer#0000 now it's just equivalent to the old BHPs [10-Jul-24 11:16 AM] hernanduer#0000 which is fine enough [10-Jul-24 11:27 AM] akyantor#0000 Does that mean now it makes sense to switch to AHP, and stack ships with all the specialised shields? *Just tried it in the sim, and doing this reduced damage taken to 0.08% vs 0.32% on a sample journey, almost a 75% reduction of damage (which doesn't including the savings on now less frequent repairs)* [10-Jul-24 11:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 I will be doing it for my new ships. Swapping existing ships is a little less cost effective, but I will probably do it also eventually, just to save on repair times [10-Jul-24 11:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have 14 ships and 13 of them need repairs ๐Ÿ˜ญ [10-Jul-24 11:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_nR1osQiB5p.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_nR1osQiB5p.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VC_ijLYBH2DU5RVSUwf11JL4hK81o7euQwbFp-W9G0M/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_nR1osQiB5p.png [10-Jul-24 11:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 and I feel like I repaired them all like a month ago [10-Jul-24 11:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 it was probably more like 3 ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [10-Jul-24 11:32 AM] akyantor#0000 Oh crap. Just noticed my two starter ships are almost at 80% [10-Jul-24 11:32 AM] akyantor#0000 Probably need to repair them soon [10-Jul-24 11:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 go look at my exhaustive analysis in #ship-building [10-Jul-24 11:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 you letting your kids name them? ๐Ÿ˜› [10-Jul-24 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜† [11-Jul-24 02:58 AM] akyantor#0000 FYI - My company name and code have changed (just in case anyone is surprised when seeing contracts for auctions/orders): Company Name: Ingenious Company Code: IF {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก ๐ŸŽ‰ [11-Jul-24 03:54 AM] akyantor#0000 The white screen bug is really impacting the live connection count.... normally this would be more like 400. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1260881982490017853/image.png?ex=6814885a&is=681336da&hm=a87ce56743e0991a2e4d5fac708697a7b6e56d7af62f3ad5071aa53f87f24da7& [11-Jul-24 05:49 AM] melon164#0000 An interesting insight into how many players are actually _playing_ at any given time rather than just AFK ๐Ÿค” {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Jul-24 09:01 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @shrewdsun_88540 and @lancercaster who have both made it through our trial peroid! Your corp invite has been sent in-game! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (8) [11-Jul-24 09:51 AM] lancercaster#0000 I have ascended! [11-Jul-24 10:03 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 They had a reboot. So all the AFK people got logged out [11-Jul-24 02:32 PM] akyantor#0000 Welcome to the corp! [12-Jul-24 07:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome to your trial @timomurbekov , the other thing to check out is our brand new welcome guide that Akyan wrote! Take a look here: http://oog.kortham.net/r/welcome [12-Jul-24 07:58 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Thanks! Glad to be a member and hope to past trial period successfully [12-Jul-24 08:59 AM] lancercaster#0000 Sent out a ship to Deimos to set up a HWP plant. [12-Jul-24 09:00 AM] lancercaster#0000 Wait Deimos is full! [12-Jul-24 09:02 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, sadly not an option unless it happened to be your starting planet. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [12-Jul-24 09:03 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s been full the whole thing that Iโ€™ve been playing. [12-Jul-24 09:03 AM] akyantor#0000 Vulcan is normally the alternative, same system. [12-Jul-24 09:03 AM] lancercaster#0000 Can't do. Already have a base there. [12-Jul-24 09:04 AM] lancercaster#0000 For some reason I planned for Deimos thinking there was room... [12-Jul-24 09:04 AM] akyantor#0000 An alternative option for metallurgy a lot further out, is WU-070a. [12-Jul-24 09:04 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™ve my glass factory there [12-Jul-24 09:05 AM] lancercaster#0000 Out of the way, but it'll have to do. [12-Jul-24 09:06 AM] akyantor#0000 It at least doesnโ€™t have any special build requirements, so is cheap to setup. [12-Jul-24 09:07 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s pretty much a full tank of FTL fuel out and back for a starter ship though [12-Jul-24 09:07 AM] akyantor#0000 I think there are about 6 OOG members there [12-Jul-24 09:07 AM] lancercaster#0000 I'll also need to pay for Technicians and Engineers... [12-Jul-24 09:08 AM] lancercaster#0000 But that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. [12-Jul-24 09:10 AM] akyantor#0000 There are some other closer planets [12-Jul-24 09:10 AM] akyantor#0000 ZV-194d, IY-816c, KI-401b [12-Jul-24 09:11 AM] akyantor#0000 May be worth checking if any of those have existing stock of tech and Eng. [12-Jul-24 09:11 AM] akyantor#0000 As the build may be more expensive, but less problematic getting workers [12-Jul-24 09:11 AM] akyantor#0000 I look after WU-070a, and at the moment there are no other players with tech/engineering requirements, so would take a bit of time to build up [12-Jul-24 09:12 AM] akyantor#0000 Can be done, of course. [12-Jul-24 09:15 AM] lancercaster#0000 It's between SE-648a and WU-070a [12-Jul-24 09:17 AM] lancercaster#0000 None of the nearby planets have engies aside from SE648a and they are near full employment and low happiness. [12-Jul-24 09:18 AM] lancercaster#0000 Hell even Vulcan doesn't have the ENG I need... [12-Jul-24 09:18 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, probably going to need to build up a bit regardless [12-Jul-24 09:18 AM] akyantor#0000 How many of each will you need? [12-Jul-24 09:19 AM] lancercaster#0000 This is the workforce I'd need {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1261325974075867286/image.png?ex=6814d45a&is=681382da&hm=b521c3797a798d144768cd049cd9b98080ae3ba58cead1fc3fb7f5bcd27bdd20& [12-Jul-24 09:19 AM] lancercaster#0000 A modest amount of engineers but a few tecs [12-Jul-24 09:19 AM] akyantor#0000 Ok, so not too crazy [12-Jul-24 09:20 AM] akyantor#0000 The technicians would be manageable on either of those two locations. [12-Jul-24 09:20 AM] akyantor#0000 May need to do some recruitment to build up Eng [12-Jul-24 09:20 AM] katinga#0000 Education programs work, too {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Jul-24 09:20 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah [12-Jul-24 09:21 AM] akyantor#0000 Let me know if you go WU. Iโ€™m governor (at least for now) so can work with you on how to get there. [12-Jul-24 09:22 AM] akyantor#0000 Looks like SE has more of a head start on Eng. the entire tech population on WU is unemployed. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [12-Jul-24 10:16 AM] lancercaster#0000 :spinthink: Considered upscaling the potential AHP production but I'd need a source of TI as there's not enough at the CX... [12-Jul-24 10:16 AM] lancercaster#0000 I could use some more of my permits to set up additional bases. [12-Jul-24 10:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think someone here recently added a TIO extracting base [12-Jul-24 10:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think it was @mrsmith33 [12-Jul-24 10:31 AM] melon164#0000 Come help flip KI-401b to the metallurgy it was always meant to be ๐Ÿ˜€ [12-Jul-24 10:33 AM] melon164#0000 They were my techs, I dropped that base last week {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Jul-24 10:45 AM] lancercaster#0000 Okay. By repurposing my Vulcan base to also produce AL FE and TI and building a base on ZV-194d to do the same. I should have more than enough metal for a full ASM/HWP base on WU-070a. Producing 35 AHP a day. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [12-Jul-24 12:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd recommend keeping eng needs to Vulcan or Deimos though, it's not gonna get much support elsewhere {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Jul-24 02:33 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, I'd have thought if you want a full base with more advanced smelting it'd be easier to get the pop on one of the more populated planets, and put the simplier stuff on WU. [12-Jul-24 03:55 PM] lancercaster#0000 :spinthink: It's gonna hurt having to tear down many of the buildings on Vulcan. [12-Jul-24 03:55 PM] hernanduer#0000 A lot better than wasting building those buildings somewhere else and just never getting the pops [12-Jul-24 03:56 PM] hernanduer#0000 Or having to pay for funding a PAR somewhere [12-Jul-24 03:57 PM] lancercaster#0000 I think you're right. [13-Jul-24 10:51 AM] akyantor#0000 I just cooked up a script of doom using FIO data to try to quantify the "real" cost of producing my end of chain materials (as it stands), includes: - Consumable costs - Production taxes - Any purchase costs for materials not in my supply chain that have to be bought from the market - And any of the above costs rolled up the supply chain where I produce in house (e.g. consumable/production costs for GRN are added to the costs to produce C) [13-Jul-24 10:52 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh... there were some surprises in there for me... stupid stuff like HAL being surprisingly expensive despite it being a first order material. And that it's surprisingly frequent that the production costs (consumables) can often be more than input materials, even a few levels deep in the supply chain. [13-Jul-24 10:52 AM] lancercaster#0000 Got a question. I was thinking about moving my HQ from Promitor to Phobos. Any thoughts? [13-Jul-24 10:56 AM] akyantor#0000 I guess it depends on whether you'd fine the HQ bonus more profitable on Phobos or Promitor. [13-Jul-24 10:56 AM] akyantor#0000 Doesn't it give a 100% boost? [13-Jul-24 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 Nah it's like 10% I think [13-Jul-24 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 Ah, not as important then [13-Jul-24 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 Mine is on Nike [13-Jul-24 11:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 Increased PP4 performance is good [13-Jul-24 12:04 PM] lancercaster#0000 https://tenor.com/view/batman-dc-hmm-thinking-gif-4575661 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/batman-dc-hmm-thinking-gif-4575661 batman https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/55lH631CyF4bQqTKNpY4DtamAgb-MjZTgj6D0Ng_qcY/https/media.tenor.com/smMKY7Vz0-cAAAAe/batman-dc.png [13-Jul-24 12:05 PM] lancercaster#0000 I don't do construction, so basing my HQ in Ant doesn't seem like a good idea. [13-Jul-24 04:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 the faction bonus for ANT is electronics, then there's 10% to the corp HQ, which is on Nike [13-Jul-24 04:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 The 10% can be fairly significant on buildings like PP4s: [13-Jul-24 04:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-41-50.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-41-50.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/E4HJ4jn7_TcGKdbGgp6rydQ0YWY-eL6AWM7rnGKZjsQ/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-41-50.png [13-Jul-24 04:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 because it cuts the time down by 10%, and its' multiplicative with other bonuses, so it ends up being like 16%. Then that means your workforce costs are reduced by 16% on those products too. [13-Jul-24 04:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Then your faction bonus gets labeled "Company Headquarters": http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-45-05.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-45-05.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_J2YWsu1b0mjxEmWMFijMDdGbUS4wjGNpXSAHqy3qks/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-13_16-45-05.png [14-Jul-24 10:41 AM] allocater#0000 oh damn {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1262071554142113893/image.png?ex=6814e7ba&is=6813963a&hm=d5c958358d8c0db1ae70ba2c28257c7406a756f923e8915cfae59fd9936d587d& [14-Jul-24 10:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 You finally made enough money to unlock Apex Gold Edition ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (8) [14-Jul-24 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 It looks like Churaviis is retiring / quitting the game. I didn't really hear anything in particular but he sent me some extra ship components and it looks like he went all in on the APEX center: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-14_17-50-25.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-14_17-50-25.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4yx_HZWxOpz2GWztv0ctBH87RZKFIXDt5prlUy70z-c/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-14_17-50-25.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ข (6) ๐Ÿ’” (5) [14-Jul-24 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 So maybe DM me if you heard anything from him [14-Jul-24 05:53 PM] tuffyless#0000 RoF stealing Phobos was kinda shady [14-Jul-24 05:56 PM] tuffyless#0000 Well, his shit-talk in the chat moreso than the election I suppose, to rephrase. [14-Jul-24 06:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah after I saw he pulled out of the Eos election... [15-Jul-24 06:27 AM] akyantor#0000 Gateway's on the way: https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/07/15/gateway-into-the-future-443 {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/07/15/gateway-into-the-future-443 Gateway into the Future - Development Log #443 | Prosperous Universe Fabian gives an outlook on what the team will be working on next. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mqvp303HK1MBtAdHUVbBgkJ6fGimGtD2FfCdXDaLJGE/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/release_realpolitik.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž (2) [15-Jul-24 07:24 AM] zipatsu#0000 Sounds interesting! โœŒ๏ธ [15-Jul-24 07:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that sounds pretty cool! We should start saving our afabs now [15-Jul-24 07:49 AM] akyantor#0000 Accelerated travel to #project-6115 ? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [15-Jul-24 07:59 AM] akyantor#0000 I wonder if they didn't bother with space elevators as the first option, as it's a little less interesting. Space elevators just result in cheaper flights. The gateways opening up market / political opportunities, as well as potentially expanding the range of planets that may be viable from distance to CX [15-Jul-24 08:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Gateways shorten distances, effectively bringing more planets closer to the CX [15-Jul-24 08:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I wonder how the gateway connections will work. 1-to-1, 1-to-many, many-to-many. [15-Jul-24 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 it reads like 1-to-many [15-Jul-24 08:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 but I also think you need a gateway on both sides [15-Jul-24 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 `or expand the radius of potential targets for your gateway.` [15-Jul-24 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's what makes me think it's one-to-many [15-Jul-24 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 _potential_ targets, like the person performing the jump can choose where to go [15-Jul-24 08:41 AM] hernanduer#0000 could be wrong though [15-Jul-24 09:13 AM] melon164#0000 I read it as 1-to-1 but potentially retargetable [15-Jul-24 09:15 AM] melon164#0000 regardless, there are still only a handful of places on the map that would be attractive to colonise even if the travel time _was_ greatly reduced... [15-Jul-24 09:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 far north is interesting [15-Jul-24 09:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 the two off-center CXs, really [15-Jul-24 09:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 plus the OS system could become super powerful actually, if travel time is only half a day or something AND with minimal fuel use {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [15-Jul-24 09:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 depends what the cost looks like for the new HF (hyperjump fuel) [15-Jul-24 09:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 (idk the name :D) [15-Jul-24 09:29 AM] melon164#0000 If it doesn't use at least one of the orphaned commodities I shall be very disappointed ๐Ÿ˜  [15-Jul-24 09:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 the breathable liquid would make sense to use as part of gate upkeep [15-Jul-24 09:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 maybe? idk [15-Jul-24 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 Presumably JUI, which was always intended to be part of space travel [15-Jul-24 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 Although they said it was "something new" [15-Jul-24 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 maybe it includes JUI [15-Jul-24 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 I suspect there will be radius in actual lightyears that the jump works. [15-Jul-24 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 So finding systems that are physically nearby but poorly connected would be the best places for jump gates. [15-Jul-24 10:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 So candidate shortcuts to OS-099... would focus on avoiding the tangly bits. Unfortunately it's just kinda out there no matter what. [15-Jul-24 10:43 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'm also reading that the owner of the government of a planet controls the gateway, at least initially [15-Jul-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think a double hop might make sense [15-Jul-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 we basically own Demeter [15-Jul-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 we can set Demeter up as the middle point, with a gate from Phobos/Heph -> Demeter then another gate Demeter -> OS [15-Jul-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 probably be a lot cheaper than bringing the "range upgrade" on Phobos/Heph to level 7 or 8 or something, if it scales like POPI levels [15-Jul-24 10:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 we could also increase Demeter establishment taxes to 10mil, to prevent people trying to edge us out {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [15-Jul-24 11:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_9zm1RbKCNj.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_9zm1RbKCNj.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FiyLmFfwVRy0MP_XXRDdw2rI2N6l3eRK3aBCjRzug8I/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_9zm1RbKCNj.png [15-Jul-24 11:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 I wouldn't know anything about that ๐Ÿ˜† [15-Jul-24 11:02 AM] hernanduer#0000 https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-4076853 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-laugh-evil-laugh-gif-4076853 Mr. Burns Excellent excellent excellent https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4scqYmMqa0_bGzlOI9fqwIGu2MFABMcQjItSCrD8gWI/https/media.tenor.com/iNJ3cA3wV18AAAAe/the-simpsons-mr-burns.png [15-Jul-24 11:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 KI-439 could be a good candidate, or Demeter if it reaches. KI-439 and Elon are right next to eachother on the map but it's like 5 jumps [15-Jul-24 11:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 Not sure if they are gonna max out at like 1.5 sectors in size or what. [15-Jul-24 11:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 it has to be a place that we can convince inner ANT systems to build a gate to [15-Jul-24 11:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 or we use something like 194d [15-Jul-24 11:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'd hope at level 10 that we could go from OS-099 to Hubur [15-Jul-24 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 depends on the speed vs. cost vs. build tradeoffs [15-Jul-24 11:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 we'll have to see [15-Jul-24 11:07 AM] hernanduer#0000 but I figure we'd have an easier time convincing the Heph/Phobos/Eos government to make a gate to Demeter than most other planets [15-Jul-24 11:08 AM] hernanduer#0000 which are basically all Rise right now ๐Ÿ™„ [15-Jul-24 11:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 Hm yeah, each planet in ANT 1 will probably end up with a gateway going somewhere specific [15-Jul-24 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 they said you could build more than 1 per planet, I just don't like the idea of us funding it and then someone getting a bug up their butt and changing its target through a government motion or w/e [15-Jul-24 03:08 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Havenโ€™t been here long enough, is there any intention of developing around OS or just that system? [15-Jul-24 03:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Definitely open to it, it's all under the umbrella of #project-6115 [15-Jul-24 03:10 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Maybe with the gates and the new politic update there could be a reason to build out a region [15-Jul-24 03:10 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 There is some nice smelting potential around there [15-Jul-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah gates will definitely change the situation, I just don't know how much [15-Jul-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 The big questions are the range and the cost per jump [15-Jul-24 03:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Indont think alot, there are just so many open good planets [15-Jul-24 03:12 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 There would need to be a 5x player increase to fully saturate the middle for it to become worth it [15-Jul-24 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, thatโ€™s largely true. In a lot of ways. I think I have run out of good electronics planets in ant space. But if I wanted to, I could pick and choose planets out of other regions. [15-Jul-24 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 itโ€™s kind of fun that we have the new system on complete lockdown. I donโ€™t know if thatโ€™s actually useful. But itโ€™s fun [15-Jul-24 03:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 In 2-3 months once my loans are payed off, I would be interested in joining that project [15-Jul-24 03:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 But im no where near to ability to right now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Jul-24 03:16 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 But I can see how with a well placed gate and planets lockdown, there is something advantageous for real to be had out there [15-Jul-24 04:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_1OvgkqFVzP.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_1OvgkqFVzP.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WUDFoAM9WtpJ4MyMWBsjIJGDF8W6YCi7-nZ9kSH9Ocw/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_1OvgkqFVzP.png [15-Jul-24 04:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can calculate any two systems Gateway distance and jump counts [15-Jul-24 04:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which means once we know gateway distances, can can find the most efficacious gateway positions. [15-Jul-24 11:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Best gateway positions (assuming an arbitrary max gateway distance of 300 map units): http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-15_23-45-46.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-15_23-45-46.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/a28V83EKWx7WNNX7ba1aV_1vkulPPBZjfPyVOibiPrI/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-15_23-45-46.png [15-Jul-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 showing only the best (most jumps skipped) gateway path from one region to another region. Otherwise it spams a lot of very similar paths. [15-Jul-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 Most of those are from nowhere to nowhere though. Might try to get them on a map [15-Jul-24 11:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also only took numpy 10ms to run all 405769 combinations of systems [16-Jul-24 12:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1262635426921975879/Untitled.png?ex=6814faa0&is=6813a920&hm=d2e67f7534b92f5f9e229102a48bcf645a989efd680791d3b7e0e81c270238e9& [16-Jul-24 12:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 So those red lines are gateways. Generally they are physically closer than they look on my map. Downside with this whole thing is that it doesn't recognize the paths you'd actually want to travel on. So it's a bit dubious in that regard, ๐Ÿ˜† [16-Jul-24 12:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 I guess the question becomes "What paths save the most jumps to ANT" [16-Jul-24 12:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe I will try for that tomorrow. [16-Jul-24 06:44 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im very curious to see how adversial the gates are gonna be. The community in this game is surprisingly chill [16-Jul-24 06:45 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I wonder if we are going to see exclusive gate networks [16-Jul-24 06:47 AM] melon164#0000 AFAIK project 6115 is the most adversarial thing to happen this universe, which is not saying much. [16-Jul-24 06:54 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I guess there is just so much opportunities everywhere that there isnโ€™t much value in cornering anything [16-Jul-24 02:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 Got any of those AHP ready yet? I'll buy them ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jul-24 02:26 PM] archielvahr#0000 ah apparently that was only 4 days ago, seems like forever [16-Jul-24 02:29 PM] lancercaster#0000 Still setting up the bases. Sorry. ๐Ÿ˜ญ [16-Jul-24 02:29 PM] lancercaster#0000 I need more ships... >.> [16-Jul-24 06:57 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/laughing-welcome-to-my-nightmare-gif-14695360 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/laughing-welcome-to-my-nightmare-gif-14695360 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yHFcvp5tEeVg5SQnue-ylkJiG38tG4C1GxCgEsmmODU/https/media.tenor.com/0qFpj7TOLaQAAAAe/laughing-welcome-to-my-nightmare.png [16-Jul-24 08:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Does anyone have a PHF? I am in the market for some ADRs [17-Jul-24 11:59 AM] mrsmith33#0000 PMMG has finally added copy panel button {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1263178259613618377/image.png?ex=6814f9ed&is=6813a86d&hm=cb52c7d1194fa1be1258a82089da0b3758116a927801502550c9075e5d5bc222& [17-Jul-24 12:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 woahhhh interesting [17-Jul-24 01:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 I know piboy liked the "variables in buffer" idea, I wonder if this is a step towards that [18-Jul-24 05:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 Joined the server. [18-Jul-24 08:17 PM] katinga#0000 Welcome!!! [18-Jul-24 10:31 PM] exeler#0000 For everyone who's encountered the timeout on the project create modal, I'm sorry. It was using the default timeout of 5 minutes and I'm happy to say that it's been bumped to a full hour now. That should cut down on the pressure to type fast a good bit. If anyone hits the limit still, or anticipates hitting it please give me a shout and I can bump the time up higher. [18-Jul-24 10:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I made a little google docs cell that generated the string for me, so no worries there. [18-Jul-24 10:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey @parisinspringtime I accidentally shipped some of the MGS back from Elon to ANT. I can either: 1) send you 1500 MGS on ANT 2) Send you 900 MGS on Elon + 600 on ANT 3) Send you 1500 MGS on Elon but it takes like.. a couple days [18-Jul-24 10:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 Likewise for @neth_havoc with the AUO 1) I can do 700 on ANT + 300 on Elon 2) 700 on Elon or 300 on ANT 3) all of it on Elon but it takes a bit longer [18-Jul-24 10:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 actually I gotta send a few ships to Elons so I could ship some of either back out there, lol [19-Jul-24 01:06 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Thanks for letting me know. I'll be taking the MGS back to ANT anyway, so I'll happily take it all on MGS. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Jul-24 02:08 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone need any AU? I have a ton on ANT [19-Jul-24 02:08 AM] neth_havoc#0000 Option 1 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Jul-24 03:08 PM] lancercaster#0000 https://youtu.be/sCHkdFO8oCo?si=XXs_hxaImQmI13aX {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1263950501247062186/image.png?ex=68152622&is=6813d4a2&hm=b13880cc55e58a001f402d9bc4ac693f83dabb207f89d49c4c33f180f3a8f7f2& {Embed} Yung Niro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCHkdFO8oCo I have no money, hahahaha AH Caption this in the comments! Follow me on soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/yungnirobeats new mixtape comin soon! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UkddzNc0XSJn_oSt-39ZjhEs1UyGmvs8H_z12wGH7M0/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/sCHkdFO8oCo/maxresdefault.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [19-Jul-24 04:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 What happens to the pops if you donโ€™t give them supplies for 2-4 weeks? Do they leave or just stop working? [19-Jul-24 04:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah they will leave over time [19-Jul-24 05:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Ok thanks. I have 3 weeks vacation coming up in about 2 months and with the little spare capacity I Have I might as well start planning now [19-Jul-24 06:36 PM] zipatsu#0000 If you have the area for it you could temporarily build a STO to increase capacity like that โœŒ๏ธ [22-Jul-24 01:43 AM] melon164#0000 ~~Does anyone have two ADR I can borrow for a week or so?~~ [22-Jul-24 01:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Poll: Should I start a HEX tap now, in anticipation that the next update might require it for gateway fuel? No HEX has been extracted in the universe in the last 180 days {Reactions} ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ โœ… (2) [22-Jul-24 06:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 Does it share with anything useful? If you could at least get marginal rates on something, it'd be good I think [22-Jul-24 09:55 PM] lancercaster#0000 Good news! I now have some mons. Bad news, I have to yell at someone and pay them to get techs and engies at Vulcan. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1265140210459480084/image.png?ex=6814dce3&is=68138b63&hm=3daaabb8a201a08143628fcf10be76599a0902c92ce96e28a7adb479a1f7afba& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1265140210694357133/image.png?ex=6814dce3&is=68138b63&hm=f2660b67332a4efb8c57be07828fff53b859f0b57bfe1829ef1dfb82964174ae& [23-Jul-24 06:37 AM] katinga#0000 are they poke or digi mons? [23-Jul-24 07:32 AM] domicius#0000 spacey mons. [23-Jul-24 07:48 AM] akyantor#0000 A stupid question. I've a faction contract that's flagged as "deadline exceeded". The step that's next has been marked as violated, and I've lost the option to fulfil, even though I can. What's supposed to happen? I can't fulfil, does it just stay stuck in that state? [23-Jul-24 07:49 AM] katinga#0000 the other party will need to extend the contract [23-Jul-24 07:49 AM] akyantor#0000 What if the other party is the faction agent? [23-Jul-24 07:55 AM] katinga#0000 those never get extended, in my experience. [23-Jul-24 07:55 AM] akyantor#0000 Ok, so probably just times out in 24 hours [23-Jul-24 07:55 AM] katinga#0000 It will breach on its own [23-Jul-24 01:57 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 there's no more N at the CX on ANT I. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [23-Jul-24 02:39 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 well thats gonna be an issue [23-Jul-24 03:39 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I have 800 if you need some [23-Jul-24 03:40 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 My reserves are good [23-Jul-24 03:40 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im just gonna import from Ben [23-Jul-24 03:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Actually donโ€™t list any haha Iโ€™ve put some up at a ridiculous price to try and profit [23-Jul-24 03:42 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ [24-Jul-24 06:39 AM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hey-gurl-you-wanna-lets-do-this-lets-do-it-star-trek-gif-15443817 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hey-gurl-you-wanna-lets-do-this-lets-do-it-star-trek-gif-15443817 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oR25Yy3gyYiNIlLCtTlxOgmsxsBiC4is2eVYJxwb3MQ/https/media.tenor.com/UPd_w_tO_ckAAAAe/hey-gurl-you-wanna.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [24-Jul-24 10:36 AM] archielvahr#0000 Hi and welcome @marat_sh ! The other thing I wanted to share is our amazing onboarding document that Akyan wrote up recently: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ry14xONeuXAE1Sc0n6PA-V9vuX8s9DHXGtVJ7sP-YaQ/edit#heading=h.ckzwxrkgex2p Let us know if you have any questions! {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ry14xONeuXAE1Sc0n6PA-V9vuX8s9DHXGtVJ7sP-YaQ/edit OOG New Starter Introduction Guide OOG New Starter Introduction Guide Introduction We are the premier corporation in Antares space and the largest governance organisation in the universe. As a corporation, we work to ensure the stability of the Antares region, as well as creating a fun and engaging place for our members to enjoy ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3gKGSsavQ6EPuWGzpzxfc8gMXwNUnLQWM6Z-ehT2sBI/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyJiTedggzpplnwjMQvS6MXpga1TDU85_4Ei5noviiqQ64710Vta4Pjb05GZXpcpb3uh3Uqd1y0yjRmbx82AlMZMPrH91IwNyKR10VW4Xw8T4lrdxb6L%3Dw1200-h630-p [24-Jul-24 10:59 AM] marat_sh#0000 Hello everyone ๐Ÿ‘ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (6) [24-Jul-24 11:13 AM] domicius#0000 [24-Jul-24 11:43 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am a new player on Phobos and will be focusing on Manufacturing COGCs. Right now I have 3 BMPs on Phobos and saving money to place a CM on Hephaestus with HQ relocation [24-Jul-24 11:43 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://prunplanner.org/shared/580b07ee-2c75-4a9a-a226-c206b11c6c47 {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/580b07ee-2c75-4a9a-a226-c206b11c6c47 PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [24-Jul-24 11:43 AM] marat_sh#0000 This is my plan for a base. It will be build in waves Starting with BMPs up to x15 [24-Jul-24 11:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 Any suggestions would be very welcome [24-Jul-24 11:45 AM] marat_sh#0000 Heavy focus on MCG and PE since it's being traded daily. Tried to keep it under 500t per day [24-Jul-24 12:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think that's a really solid starting Heph base. And it's a good idea to push to Heph for manufacturing. BMPs are very flexible. So you can totally focus on just a few of those items in order to simplify logistics. MCG is at the MM max price so it will continue to sell at that max price for the foreseeable future. [24-Jul-24 12:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Total return on investment of 13 days which is pretty solid [24-Jul-24 12:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 After that focus on components for electronics [24-Jul-24 12:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 So yeah, I think it's a good plan! [24-Jul-24 12:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 Now the employment might me in question. I am not sure how population works just yet so we will see [24-Jul-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Good options for growth into making PG also [24-Jul-24 12:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heph and Phobos are both pretty big, so the population will just show up when the population report rolls over once a week. And the workforce pool (which you get immediately) is probably pretty big [24-Jul-24 12:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've got PRO so if anyone wants to help me make this base happened would be very welcome [24-Jul-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 ah 1500 pioneers. I think you'll get like 400 out of the pool maybe...? The rest should come when the week rolls over. On heph it's 13 hours from now. (or 7d 13hr for the next one) [24-Jul-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Lemme send you some welcome money! [24-Jul-24 12:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Done ๐Ÿค Thank you [24-Jul-24 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can sell you the 12 PSL at $2000/u if you send a contract [24-Jul-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am pretty much out of bfabs and lfabs though. Up to you if you want to put orders in on the #orders channel [24-Jul-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 They miiiight get filled in time so you can make the base before the POPI report [24-Jul-24 12:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 at the very least I need to get BMPs done {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Jul-24 12:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 one sec [24-Jul-24 12:22 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 You can see about loans as well, with that kind of ROI, it shouldnโ€™t be an issue repaying it [24-Jul-24 12:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sent [24-Jul-24 02:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've relocated HQ but bonus is not applied, am I stuck with Electronics forever or it will be updated? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1265754868333674597/image.png?ex=68151f15&is=6813cd95&hm=da3cf18505ed57e37e5a744da39dc244f6657651b3aa3a7ed38254a45f075d13& [24-Jul-24 02:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 The HQ bonus is determined by the faction of the planet your HQ is on, so youโ€™ll get the electronics bonus for any planet in Antares [24-Jul-24 02:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 thank you ๐Ÿ™ [25-Jul-24 07:40 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 FYI, it did sell for a profit {Reactions} โค๏ธ [25-Jul-24 07:41 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 199โ€ฆ no the most but iv imported 2k from Ben so I should make it up on volume [25-Jul-24 07:47 AM] katinga#0000 I'm stuck with Electronics, too, ever since I put my HQ on Vulcan [25-Jul-24 08:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve considered moving my HQ to a non-faction planet for the resource extraction bonus, but itโ€™s so much more convenient to have it near ANT for upgrades [25-Jul-24 08:40 AM] zipatsu#0000 Mine's on EW, 's like an 18-19h trip there with a normal ship usually but at this point I'm not upgrading the HQ every other week anymore either ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jul-24 08:50 AM] katinga#0000 same. I used to have my HQ on Etherwind, but it's so far from Ben or Ant to easily upgrade [25-Jul-24 08:51 AM] sidepipe#0000 I just moved back to Nike because thatโ€™s where all of my fabs are anyway ๐Ÿ˜ [25-Jul-24 08:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 How bad is a demand for electronics? [25-Jul-24 08:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s not how long the single trip is - itโ€™s how long the second trip is when you forget something ๐Ÿ˜‚ [25-Jul-24 08:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 Good question - I havenโ€™t done much with electronics so hopefully someone else will weigh in. My perception has been that a lot of electronics stuff is traded off the CX since theyโ€™re often components of ship parts and the like. Obviously EDC and IDC is a bottomless pit of money with the MM orders being what they are, but theyโ€™re also not super interesting [25-Jul-24 08:59 AM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah.... wish I could say that never happened to me but it's definitely occurred more times than I'd like to admit. And it's almost always MCG or TRU somehow, likely from focusing on making sure the expensive stuff is all accounted for ๐Ÿ˜… [25-Jul-24 09:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 My HQ is on SE-648c [25-Jul-24 09:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have frequent trips there to bring O [25-Jul-24 09:59 AM] marat_sh#0000 Thanks to @archielvahr New base on Hephaestus is up and running. 10 BMPs are working at full capacity {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [25-Jul-24 10:00 AM] archielvahr#0000 Woo ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Jul-24 10:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 squeezed right before population report [25-Jul-24 10:03 AM] marat_sh#0000 PE - 3400/d and MCG - 1500/d [25-Jul-24 10:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 electronics are more for advanced pipelines, because historically the products are low volume or simply lacking on the CX, anyone who needs electronics chooses to setup their own manufacturing of them [25-Jul-24 10:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 sometimes you can sell them on the CX, but expect orders to sit there for a while [25-Jul-24 10:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 do you think if electronics where more accessible people would start buying them instead of setting up own production? If they are primarialy used for ships I can understand that though [25-Jul-24 10:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 maybe, but I wouldn't play that game as a new player ๐Ÿ™‚ [25-Jul-24 10:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 you'll have millions locked up in open sell orders [25-Jul-24 10:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 hypothetically ๐Ÿ˜… I am gonna stick to manufacturing only for a long while [25-Jul-24 10:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 Might make a base on Nike at some point in future [25-Jul-24 10:38 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Look into Chem [25-Jul-24 10:38 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Profitable and good demand {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [25-Jul-24 10:54 AM] marat_sh#0000 after Hephaestus plan is complete and I get invested money back, I was thinking something like this https://prunplanner.org/shared/4b1bcc6b-0510-4d1f-adc2-d0cc4a8c0449 {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/4b1bcc6b-0510-4d1f-adc2-d0cc4a8c0449 PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [25-Jul-24 10:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 nah, you should do PP2s primarily [25-Jul-24 10:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 and run a WEL or 2, TRU are really short on stock lately [25-Jul-24 11:01 AM] marat_sh#0000 Plans for the future ๐Ÿ‘ I am taking notes [25-Jul-24 11:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 Nike has the corp headquarters and with the construction COGC it can be a very high efficiency planet for construction. As you transition it makes sense to put some of your highest value buildings there. So starting with PP2s because they use AL instead of FE, and have a big variety of outputs, then eventually transitioning to PP3 and PP4 to make the most out of the corp HQ bonus [25-Jul-24 11:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 I've seen numbers and PP1 not worth at all So yeah PP2 all the way {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Jul-24 11:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 It is nice to have someone running LST on Nike and selling it locally but it's relatively low profit compared to using it for construction. It would be a sacrifice, hehe [25-Jul-24 11:05 AM] marat_sh#0000 LST is used in my MCG and late Manufacturing [25-Jul-24 11:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 Regarding the electronics stuff: I know personally I would buy more intermediate electronics products if they were on the CX.... So there's something to be said for "making the market".. but it's true you'd be sitting on them for a while, which wouldn't be good as a new player. But you could pre-arrange buyers, especially in-corp for things like that [25-Jul-24 11:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 Or there's a trend towards governors buying HD and MHP so you could focus on those, and I think they'd move [25-Jul-24 11:08 AM] marat_sh#0000 is LST consumption in corp covered by production or some people buy it of CX? [25-Jul-24 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 Zipatsu and MegaSaberEXE both make a lot of LST on Nike [25-Jul-24 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 So I think it's pretty well covered [25-Jul-24 11:14 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 If you need AL, I make a lot of it as well and already move most of it to Nike [25-Jul-24 11:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 Actually Katinga makes a lot of LST on Nike too [25-Jul-24 11:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 Awesome ๐Ÿค For a corps benefit Where would you suggest for me to expand in a future? I don't mind making a sacrifice as long as I don't lose money [25-Jul-24 11:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 heh definitely chase the profit for the first few bases. But EPO is always in demand both in general and in the corp, so that's good on the chemistry side of things. [25-Jul-24 11:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 On the electronics side, making HDs might be a good one. [25-Jul-24 11:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 construction fabs, as mentioned before: those are good, we seem to be short on those, just looking at open orders. [25-Jul-24 11:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 Chemicals sounds more convincing Since I would be using a lot of PG myself, but yeah construction also sounds nice [25-Jul-24 11:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 If you end up in metals, I think more hull plates work well [25-Jul-24 11:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 On the chemistry side, if you make PG, you can manufacture it into PSS/DCS and PSM/DCM, as you have started on Heph... and those products end up in a lot of electronics eventually. So that all feeds into an eventual goal, while also being useful in the near term [25-Jul-24 11:21 AM] marat_sh#0000 ^^ [25-Jul-24 11:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 As far as specific bases that I really like: [25-Jul-24 11:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 I am king of HMS now with 6 CLFs making it ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‘ [25-Jul-24 11:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266068390045421712/image.png?ex=6814f192&is=6813a012&hm=10d5d6211664d51449f95285d068705d05d6f153fb4f0f6fbe7e3240134d86a7& [25-Jul-24 11:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 how expansive is it to upgrade starter ship at least one 3000t/1000m3? Around 1 mil? [25-Jul-24 11:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/944644507050323968/993577413827121326 [25-Jul-24 11:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 in corp prices, like 500k I think? somewhere around there {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [25-Jul-24 11:32 AM] zipatsu#0000 Congrats! Always good to see OOG at the top of a leaderboard โœŒ๏ธ [25-Jul-24 11:47 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Why would someone buy IDC? [25-Jul-24 11:48 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I see them being sold for just above mm [25-Jul-24 11:52 AM] melon164#0000 Currency conversion [25-Jul-24 11:53 AM] melon164#0000 They're bearer bonds: you can buy them at one CX, fly them to another and sell them in a different currency [25-Jul-24 11:57 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Ah makes alot of sense [25-Jul-24 12:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 also used to fund some POPI, they're actually relatively cost efficient [25-Jul-24 02:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that's the plus of them dropping the MM price on them [26-Jul-24 09:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 Behold! The only HEX tap in the universe: [26-Jul-24 09:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_09-36-26.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_09-36-26.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4U8Qpo0018BovxfG_lJH6_1NW8m_RTi-KQZZAp9TgpI/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_09-36-26.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅน (5) [26-Jul-24 10:00 AM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/bH5Fx.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/its-so-dope-eric-cartman-south-park-s13e14-pee-gif-22862213 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CZMAYM7VuMeHdQQ64azDUyMfTRgse2cAvZVNs8rFCAw/https/media.tenor.com/1pvgaSQcBbwAAAAe/its-so-dope-eric-cartman.png [26-Jul-24 10:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 So either gateways use HEX and I'm way ahead of the curve... or they don't and I wasted a permit for a month ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jul-24 11:45 AM] sidepipe#0000 But think of all the JUI you can make! ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jul-24 02:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 At least when they run the economic report it'll be all you! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [26-Jul-24 04:38 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Does anyone extract BOR? My last supplier quit the game. [26-Jul-24 05:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 do we have PE consumers? [26-Jul-24 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Meeeee! [26-Jul-24 05:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 This one dumb planet: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_17-22-29.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_17-22-29.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SC-xqAOyiGHmpRMJxEoQQ2dV5ZBOeDGddmQAhRVFDzE/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-07-26_17-22-29.png [26-Jul-24 05:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 I don't know corp prices but I got 5k on ANT (first batch) [26-Jul-24 05:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 I use PE as well, but much less than that ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jul-24 05:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll pay full CX price, send me a contract for like 11/u [26-Jul-24 05:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 Oh I am gonna drop auction then [26-Jul-24 05:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 for 10/u sounds good? [26-Jul-24 05:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 if I can't talk you into 11/u, sure ๐Ÿ˜› [26-Jul-24 05:25 PM] marat_sh#0000 There will be more [26-Jul-24 05:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266522058104242196/image.png?ex=68149dd5&is=68134c55&hm=22b56e90902e1d38ab53316c36e05a4249a94fc1794eeff836d405df1a28f933& [26-Jul-24 05:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 per day for now [26-Jul-24 05:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 More in-corp PE is always welcome - I think Iโ€™ve helped drive up prices with my INS production [26-Jul-24 05:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 I want for everyone to have a fair chance [26-Jul-24 05:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am buying C and H of the CX but if I can get them somewhere else we can talk about big production [26-Jul-24 05:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can probably cover your C needs [26-Jul-24 05:31 PM] marat_sh#0000 Then I can cover your PE needs [26-Jul-24 05:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll make an auction also [26-Jul-24 05:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 C has been on my long long list of things to do someday. Maybe now that Iโ€™m running out of FP planets I should put INC somewhere ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jul-24 05:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sorry I forgot that I need to buy some consumables so I can't wait on auction. 5k goes to Archiel [26-Jul-24 06:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 hehe [26-Jul-24 06:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 cash sent ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Jul-24 06:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you need small amounts of C (like <100) you can just send contracts to me [26-Jul-24 06:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah in a moment [26-Jul-24 06:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 sent. I can't buy in bulk yet too poor [26-Jul-24 06:49 PM] exeler#0000 I also make a lot of C. I'm often the #1 producer in the universe according to LEAD stats on the occasions I check [26-Jul-24 06:50 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I wonder where I sit in thereโ€ฆ. [26-Jul-24 07:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 We all know there's only one stat that truly matters ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266549215467667456/image.png?ex=6814b720&is=681365a0&hm=cfd585b431b5a5054a89149872fa4759086226dd0d42bb15ada237d74a8a4a36& [26-Jul-24 07:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Jul-24 09:13 PM] .urpalhal#0000 HAL ftw!๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [27-Jul-24 09:31 AM] katinga#0000 Is there a way to search just one channel for one word? Whenever I do a search, it searches the whole danged server. It's kind of annoying. [27-Jul-24 09:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 in: channel [27-Jul-24 09:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266765155996532808/image.png?ex=6814d77c&is=681385fc&hm=85262bedb30198ac41e06fba94f9cf29da486d3051a858f9456ba85aefbd96ca& [27-Jul-24 09:33 AM] katinga#0000 that didn't work [27-Jul-24 09:34 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266765790254858311/image.png?ex=6814d813&is=68138693&hm=22499d011b7808287ec3478a3da376022a6791f5fb7d6842dbda83eac96f0d16& [27-Jul-24 09:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 does it looks like this? [27-Jul-24 09:37 AM] katinga#0000 but it didn't search what I was looking for {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1266766453009289217/image.png?ex=6814d8b1&is=68138731&hm=5d07a2fd952a234db331a9f56f5be0ecff91c16b423fa765e213b653f78730b5& [27-Jul-24 09:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 I don't think there's any way to get 'INS' only and not also INSert or INStance or even ParisINSpringtime ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [27-Jul-24 09:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 Ah I see [27-Jul-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 i see your problem [27-Jul-24 09:40 AM] sidepipe#0000 but I sell INS at 100/u [27-Jul-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 discord doesn't have special character filter [27-Jul-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 so it will find any combination of INS in all words [27-Jul-24 09:41 AM] katinga#0000 kinda that way when I'm looking for other items [27-Jul-24 09:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 it's just a discord thing You can't do much with it [27-Jul-24 09:42 AM] marat_sh#0000 we might start using #INS or other ways to mark ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Jul-24 09:42 AM] katinga#0000 it used to work a lot better [27-Jul-24 09:43 AM] sidepipe#0000 at least we dont have to use teams ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Jul-24 11:14 AM] hernanduer#0000 God I hate teams, don't get me started on teams [27-Jul-24 12:01 PM] exeler#0000 I had a bunch of people at work complain about having to switch from teams to zoom+slack. I've never used teams so figured I was missing out on something [27-Jul-24 12:02 PM] exeler#0000 For searching auctions I usually search for the ticker plus the @ symbol. Try searching for INS@, or C@. Assuming you want to search up past auctions [27-Jul-24 12:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 then they clearly weren't using the "one drive integration", or actual features zoom offers [27-Jul-24 12:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 well going from teams to zoom, I guess they wouldn't know about those features [27-Jul-24 12:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 but the "one drive integration" is in quotes, because it's about as integrated as putting a hyperlink in discord [27-Jul-24 01:57 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 We are going from the google suit to Office and Iโ€™m suprised how after just 2 years the switch is difficult [27-Jul-24 01:57 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 All my workflows are just a bit different [27-Jul-24 04:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Every once in a while I post my supply of random stuff I stock for the corp. I don't make auctions cause they aren't something a bunch of people want at the same time. But here they are: AFP products for sale! 66 LOG @ 60k 45 ADS @ 130k 38 COM @ 120k Other HQ Upgrade stuff 40+ CBL @ 87k 100+ SP @ 1800 20 POW @ 3k 50+ BMF @ 20k 0 BWS @ 20k 10 AAR @ 20k if your HQ level is under 18, the above products are free for your HQ upgrade! Just send contracts for 1 AIC. Ship parts: 20+ LFE @ 200k 20+ MFE @ 80k 20+ SFE @ 50k 20+ FFC @ 350k Consumables: 400 VG @ 2k 500 MEA @ 3200 400 WIN @ 8k [27-Jul-24 04:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 > if your HQ level is under 18, the above products are free for your HQ upgrade! Just send contracts for 1 AIC. [27-Jul-24 04:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [27-Jul-24 04:46 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™ll for sur take a look but I think I bought all those things already [27-Jul-24 05:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 @archielvahr would you like some PE deliveries in a future? [27-Jul-24 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, just keep sendin em and I'll keep buying them [27-Jul-24 05:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 do you want me to stockpile them for a bulk trade or send them as they come to ANT? [27-Jul-24 05:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Whatever's convenient for you. I would happily buy them on Heph or Phobos also, anywhere I have a base [27-Jul-24 05:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 So you don't need to send extra ships around just for that reason [27-Jul-24 05:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 most of it in Heph if you want to pick them up from there let me know For now I will send 6.9k PE next morning. They are currently on the way [27-Jul-24 05:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds good! [29-Jul-24 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 I've started using the PMMG item tagging in my planets and by golly does it make it a lot easier to just move all the outbound products over [29-Jul-24 09:29 AM] hernanduer#0000 instead of scanning the list on FIO of products with positive ratios [29-Jul-24 09:29 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [29-Jul-24 09:29 AM] melon164#0000 Can you do multi-drag?! [29-Jul-24 09:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 not sure about that [29-Jul-24 09:30 AM] hernanduer#0000 full drag the reds, split stacks on the stars, ezpz {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1267489517342818437/image.png?ex=6814d719&is=68138599&hm=91faf2922eb260bc8a904befaa7b34baf6cd0beba7fdbc05c4e90c0fd4d13f0e& [29-Jul-24 09:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 Nah, no multi drag, that'd be great though [29-Jul-24 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 There's also this mode: [29-Jul-24 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_gZIiRTZE2D.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_gZIiRTZE2D.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Cp_j-CSSqwAbVsu6Tjx3JwTX7KFdWL5Kl9FGDE_5SKQ/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_gZIiRTZE2D.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [29-Jul-24 09:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Depending on your planet you can sometimes just drag all the outputs and call it good [29-Jul-24 09:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 if an output is an input to another, where does it end up? [29-Jul-24 09:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 Then it ends up in inputs [29-Jul-24 10:00 AM] hernanduer#0000 ah, unfortunate [29-Jul-24 10:01 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'll stick with my tagging ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Jul-24 10:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 For me my "hard" planets are constantly swapping production items, so none of it really works [29-Jul-24 10:45 AM] katinga#0000 someone mentioned that more TIO was needed in the corp. I've started up a TIO base last night {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Jul-24 10:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Awesome [29-Jul-24 12:40 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Nice! I will take it in nearest future [29-Jul-24 01:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @timomurbekov who is now a fully fledged shareholder! Your in-game invite has been sent ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Jul-24 01:01 PM] timomurbekov#0000 @archielvahr thanks a lot! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [29-Jul-24 02:20 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone making MG? [29-Jul-24 02:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's cheap on CX, though I think Churaviis was making most of it in corp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [29-Jul-24 02:44 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'm making small amounts of MG. i have 400 MG to spare. [29-Jul-24 04:02 PM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™m just running down my gold intermediates on Elon, then Iโ€™m going to set up a big MG rig [29-Jul-24 06:25 PM] tuffyless#0000 Got a MG consumer here. Was buying it from Churaviis. Burn ~110 units/day [30-Jul-24 09:44 AM] hernanduer#0000 took a long time to get to 9 figures, but finally... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1267855458845069353/image.png?ex=6814da69&is=681388e9&hm=ad8767177d061b1654d5eaf3247ad77d48baa3ea2d68f66c4113704129950e53& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (5) ๐ŸŽ‰ [30-Jul-24 12:17 PM] allocater#0000 now put it in the bank and earn 1 mil per week ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [30-Jul-24 12:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 but I like seeing the number, it's so nice to look at ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Jul-24 12:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 Technically, youโ€™re selflessly slowing inflation by reducing the money supply. [30-Jul-24 12:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s hard work, but someone has to do it ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (4) [30-Jul-24 11:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 Now that Churaviis isn't around, I can finally admit I always imagined him as Allan from smiling friends [30-Jul-24 11:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-alan-allan-angry-gif-16294332071223754380 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-alan-allan-angry-gif-16294332071223754380 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HSXhqnTnAK_iQGQoUhcKBX931S-HFcQ-L2yPyS8Q_rE/https/media.tenor.com/4iEYsA2L_owAAAAe/smiling-friends-alan.png [30-Jul-24 11:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 Voice and all [30-Jul-24 11:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿคฃ [30-Jul-24 11:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://tenor.com/view/cheese-smiling-friends-crucifix-i-just-wanted-my-cheese-i-just-gif-630160009877714355 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/cheese-smiling-friends-crucifix-i-just-wanted-my-cheese-i-just-gif-630160009877714355 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/RdPZO30OK08EnbZxswAaapc2RqKTmdg8eP08HC1GWTg/https/media.tenor.com/CL7HMLRq9bMAAAAe/cheese-smiling-friends.png [31-Jul-24 04:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 who is a PG producer here? [31-Jul-24 04:13 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i produce small amounts of PG. how much do you need? [31-Jul-24 04:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 I don't need it yet Just asking for future planning ๐Ÿ˜… [31-Jul-24 04:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am planning to start trasforming my Heph base into WPL -> NL/KV base and relocate my BMPs on Astraeus [31-Jul-24 04:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 or we can cut down on logistics and build WPL base on chem planet [31-Jul-24 04:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I might make PG [31-Jul-24 04:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I would just make NL on a manu CoGC planet [31-Jul-24 04:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Itโ€™s a huge cut if you donโ€™t [31-Jul-24 04:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 there aren't that many Manufacturing planets [31-Jul-24 04:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 5 in 5 jups from CX... and 2 of them are in CX system [31-Jul-24 04:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 until we get gates I don't mind loosing on COGC [31-Jul-24 04:38 PM] zipatsu#0000 I suppose it's possible but it seems highly ambitious ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268321896852619377/image.png?ex=68149290&is=68134110&hm=32500645ae166694d6c0e7b8422e0d442001a61f21b4fc419d7316e876137f8f& [31-Jul-24 05:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 You should consider swapping that. Fewer buildings make HSE more advantageous, and Astraeus can support the pop needs of WPL [31-Jul-24 05:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 Better to only need like 9 HSE than 20 for each BMP [31-Jul-24 05:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 Seems piratey {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅน [31-Jul-24 05:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 I see what you mean [31-Jul-24 05:29 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Got loads of it [31-Jul-24 05:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 what's the price? On ANT? [31-Jul-24 05:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Yeah ant [31-Jul-24 05:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™m good with anything between Bid and Ask {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [31-Jul-24 05:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will let you know on my next resupply Thank you [31-Jul-24 05:34 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Great [31-Jul-24 05:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I bring it in to Ant just once a week so if you need a lot do give me a warning so I can set it aside [31-Jul-24 05:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 where do you make them? [31-Jul-24 05:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Griffinstone [31-Jul-24 05:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 what's the ID name? [31-Jul-24 05:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 nvm found it [01-Aug-24 01:54 AM] zipatsu#0000 Was slightly worried but did think it'd be odd for someone the get pro just to pirate shipping contracts from way out there ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268461851612680284/image.png?ex=681514e8&is=6813c368&hm=5a8dc4eb33b502a6e7669c561dc0840171044fcb081b2b7239f740463cec591d& [01-Aug-24 08:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 Rookies gonna rook ๐Ÿซ ๐Ÿ˜ [01-Aug-24 09:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, I count myself lucky when I make a 2000t contract and someone with a 2k/2k ship actually takes it... rather than someone who doesn't realize it won't fit on their ship [01-Aug-24 09:14 AM] katinga#0000 I have been guilty of the latter [01-Aug-24 09:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 11:08 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i just sold a bunch of KOM for cheap on the CX by accident. ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 11:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 At least it was to allocater, hehe [01-Aug-24 11:15 AM] hernanduer#0000 When it's just barely inside of the trade range is the worst [01-Aug-24 12:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 I donโ€™t know much about devs and much they listen to community [01-Aug-24 12:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 But if they care they would have fixed a lot of issues already [01-Aug-24 12:01 PM] hernanduer#0000 they have two games and little time to do things [01-Aug-24 12:01 PM] hernanduer#0000 so they move at a snail's pace [01-Aug-24 12:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 Oh boy, thatโ€™s not great when niche game dev have multiple games [01-Aug-24 12:02 PM] hernanduer#0000 the other one is older and more maintainence mode [01-Aug-24 12:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think they switched to PRUN full time for the last few months [01-Aug-24 12:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 starting gateways right after politics was a surprise to me [01-Aug-24 12:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 since there are usually multi-month dead zones [01-Aug-24 12:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 Did you notice influx of new players? [01-Aug-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Not really. There are people who track the active CONS and honestly it's kind of down lately. [01-Aug-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 But the devs have said they only work on PRUN when they have income for the game or grants from the german government to fund the game. [01-Aug-24 12:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which as a game dev, I personally take that as an indication they are either doing airline sim work or contract work to fill the gaps... cause that's how we do it ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [01-Aug-24 12:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Except the US government doesn't give me money to make games ๐Ÿ˜ข {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅฒ [01-Aug-24 12:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 Still looking for a job after getting my CS degree โ˜น๏ธ [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 are you in the US? [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah Florida [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 I thought I read earlier something about russian [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 I moved here 7 years ago [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 do you have a green card? [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am a citizen ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh even better then [01-Aug-24 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://www.clearancejobs.com/ [01-Aug-24 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 defense industry is always hiring [01-Aug-24 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 and generally given their need, it's pretty easy to get in [01-Aug-24 12:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿค thank you I will look into it. There is an airbase in Jacksonville that wants to hire me [01-Aug-24 12:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 But no experience outside of my own projects doesnโ€™t help ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 12:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, defense won't care for level 1 positions [01-Aug-24 12:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 they have a hard time getting attention, so as long as you can pass some general things and are able to communicate passably, they'll give you a shot [01-Aug-24 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 key restrictions are typically citizenship and bachelors degrees (per gov contracts, typically require everyone be degreed) [01-Aug-24 12:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 Got both [01-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 give it a shot then, I know LM does missiles stuff out of Orlando {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [01-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 but they're all over down there [01-Aug-24 12:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™d give you a hand but unless you wanna move to Canada Iโ€™m not of much use [01-Aug-24 12:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Moral support always welcome [01-Aug-24 12:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 12:16 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Well that you have! {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [01-Aug-24 12:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 Btw, I am selling PE to Archiel almost daily, if someone needs it as well, I can leave some of it [01-Aug-24 12:25 PM] marat_sh#0000 My production so far {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268620736478707844/image.png?ex=68150021&is=6813aea1&hm=23dd06b52788e87a80781dac81bcfae1186038e9fbab7fda5153b6154889eb98& [01-Aug-24 12:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am happy to share! Otherwise I am also happy to keep buying it all, lol ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 12:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 Heph base isn't finished yet... What do you think about this plan for Heph [01-Aug-24 12:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://prunplanner.org/shared/adba1877-1bee-467d-84ee-f4b12b86f3fb {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/adba1877-1bee-467d-84ee-f4b12b86f3fb PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [01-Aug-24 12:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 I like it! [01-Aug-24 12:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 nobody sells BLE though [01-Aug-24 12:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that's true, you might have to make your own [01-Aug-24 12:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Not a huge market for SIL either but you can do NL and KV when you have TCL available [01-Aug-24 12:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 The global demand for LC is incredibly low, but the other CLF items seem to move okay [01-Aug-24 12:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 a bit expensive to start my own production, I would rather buy bulk from people who have Labs [01-Aug-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hal makes a lot of TCL for me, I think I am actually net positive [01-Aug-24 12:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 we talked about opening chem planet on romulus system ๐Ÿค” [01-Aug-24 12:43 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im playing on converting/building a planet for TCL, how much would you need? [01-Aug-24 12:43 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I need some myself but I can maybe make more [01-Aug-24 12:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 I need 2.25 BLE /d [01-Aug-24 12:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 I 'will' need... not yet [01-Aug-24 12:50 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 alright if it materialize let me know [01-Aug-24 12:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿค [01-Aug-24 12:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 @katinga do you have H on ANT? and if yes, what price? I need 500 H [01-Aug-24 12:56 PM] katinga#0000 not on the CX. i have an H base on Ant2G [01-Aug-24 12:56 PM] katinga#0000 I easily have that much [01-Aug-24 12:58 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will get a warehouse there I can buy it from there [01-Aug-24 01:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 send a contract I've got 500m3 storage there [01-Aug-24 01:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 griffonstone should be your first chem [01-Aug-24 01:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 or electronica [01-Aug-24 01:10 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 seconded [01-Aug-24 01:10 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 electronica is far [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 they're 3x greens though [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 but ships are very valuable at the start [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 the more you can delay needing another the better [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah that's true [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 just saying you should consider those before places like 639d or 759d [01-Aug-24 01:11 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 that i agree [01-Aug-24 01:13 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Elon isnt a bad choice for a second or third chem [01-Aug-24 01:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 I know it's not optimal but I don't want to get into other industries. Just my preference of playing this game. If there would be a chem planet on QJ-382, I would place a base in QJ-382a [01-Aug-24 01:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh yeah, I forgot Elon [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 its all chem [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 like 40% of the game is chem [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 lol [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 50%-60% of my income is chem [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Had to move out to find more chem planets [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 unless you really dedicate to only doing metals [01-Aug-24 01:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 even then, if you wanna use an ASM to its full abilities, you're gonna need AMLs [01-Aug-24 01:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 construction is also surpinsignly chem dependant [01-Aug-24 01:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 so mixed bases it is then ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 01:15 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 iv got 2 pp2/pp3 plant and like 8 chem to support it [01-Aug-24 01:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 JeanPaul you should send a big ol' loan to allocater and start all these bases at once ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 01:17 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 thats what iv done, if you need pointers let me know [01-Aug-24 01:18 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 im still in the middle of it so i can help you avoid some of the mistakes iv made [01-Aug-24 01:18 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 you can easily drop a new base every 1-2 day for the first 2-3 weeks [01-Aug-24 01:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… I don't like the idea of owning to someone. I would rather wait and make from my own capital. It's just there isn't that much to do in early game when it's just waiting and I am making different base compositions to look what's viable [01-Aug-24 01:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 early game is very slow but I also don't want to overwhelm myself with new productions and upkeeps [01-Aug-24 01:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/what-about-bob-baby-steps-baby-steps-bill-murray-gif-16824461 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/what-about-bob-baby-steps-baby-steps-bill-murray-gif-16824461 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YIEZrYetFBXTE5AtdqbDdO2ngs6-weK8AgyUSs0ww-w/https/media.tenor.com/0Rkgz7zpxjkAAAAe/what-about-bob-baby.png [01-Aug-24 01:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 Also... @archielvahr was it a week already from my trial? [01-Aug-24 01:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can be in trial longer if needed... There isn't much for me to do at the moment anyway ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 01:22 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, it's a personal preference thing, but this is pretty much how I've approached the first 100 days, for the most part. [01-Aug-24 01:23 PM] akyantor#0000 I'm at the point now that I'm considering loans... now that I feel like I've got a handle on what I'm doing. [01-Aug-24 01:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've tripled my net profit from @archielvahr 's welcome gift [01-Aug-24 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh yeah it's been a week, welcome! ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [01-Aug-24 01:25 PM] katinga#0000 _hides the donuts_ [01-Aug-24 01:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's pretty good profit! When I started you'd see ROI of something like 30d, and loans / capital wasn't so much of a thing. But now there is a ton of capital if you want it, and with abundant populations and luxury goods, doubling in 15d is pretty possible. A week is great though ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 01:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah that Norwick base you funded me took like 4 weeks [01-Aug-24 01:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 ah the golden age of DW profits [01-Aug-24 01:31 PM] katinga#0000 Doo Wop? [01-Aug-24 01:34 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 270 BLE for HSS/LC on QJ-382a, can sell some [01-Aug-24 01:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 Awesome! There wasn't any BLE on CX that's why I was concerned. Good to know that people have production of it [01-Aug-24 01:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 This bit of BLE is like a year worth supply with my consumption of HSS/LC [01-Aug-24 01:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 sometimes it makes sense to not put items on the CX [01-Aug-24 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 because it increases the entrance costs for competitors [01-Aug-24 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 instead of buying the BLE you yourself make in excess, and then competing with you in HSS with a single manufacturing base [01-Aug-24 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 now they have to make a whole chem base too [01-Aug-24 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 or at least allocate from somewhere else on an existing base [01-Aug-24 01:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's the closest thing to warfare we get ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 01:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 That makes so much sense now [01-Aug-24 01:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 @katinga sorry did I send you 2 contracts? one is terminated [01-Aug-24 01:49 PM] katinga#0000 I sent 1 and I think you sent one? [01-Aug-24 01:49 PM] marat_sh#0000 I think we've sent it at the same time ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Aug-24 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Doing a little cleanup on retired roles [01-Aug-24 05:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you are retired, tell me so it's easier ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Aug-24 07:03 PM] katinga#0000 I wish I was... irl, I mean [02-Aug-24 10:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 what's up with OFF and SUN? [02-Aug-24 10:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 looks a bit overpriced [02-Aug-24 10:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 do people buy them? [02-Aug-24 10:40 AM] akyantor#0000 It looks like someone bought 5000 of stock in one day a week or so ago, which is massively more than usual. [02-Aug-24 10:41 AM] akyantor#0000 I suspect that's resulting in undersupply on the ask side of the order book [02-Aug-24 10:41 AM] akyantor#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268956904046985319/image.png?ex=6814e7b6&is=68139636&hm=c0bc2f3d2f8fa9525b59743c3d531e9867c252c7c7ead00a181aaa4006812063& [02-Aug-24 10:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 SUN fills like a waste of C [02-Aug-24 10:43 AM] akyantor#0000 The public order flow for sun is very thin. I did think about making some at one point, but feels a lot less reliably required than OFF. Office Supplies are required for some important plantary infrastructure buildings upkeep. [02-Aug-24 10:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 That's why OFF is always filled but not the SUN [02-Aug-24 10:44 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, also more expensive to make [02-Aug-24 10:45 AM] akyantor#0000 It can often be cheaper long term to upgrade the pop infrastructure to a higher level and just use OFF, rather than feeding the building both OFF and SUN. [02-Aug-24 10:46 AM] akyantor#0000 It's a bit situational if that's true or not, but if you're on a planet with just demand for PIO and SET pop, then you'll often see only the DW and OFF filled on population infrastructure, as they're cheaper. [02-Aug-24 10:46 AM] akyantor#0000 The situation can be a bit different on more planets with more complicated needs, but naturally there are fewer of them. [02-Aug-24 10:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 C is used in so many places but fertile planets you can count on hand [02-Aug-24 10:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 10 C for SUN recipe feels out of place [02-Aug-24 10:48 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, you can make the argi goods to produce C on non-fertile planets, but it's more expensive. You have to use HYF with NS and a lot more water, rather than a smaller amount of water on a fertile planet. [02-Aug-24 10:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 I can start producing OFF as well of you guys need it [02-Aug-24 11:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 it's pretty hard to see what's in the demand when large portion of trading is behind deals in the dark [02-Aug-24 11:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 or when people just produce stuff for themselves [02-Aug-24 11:04 AM] akyantor#0000 I don't think you'd lose out by making OFF. Generally good profit margins. There's demand within the corp too. I've never had trouble selling within the group, albeit at a discount to market, as many folks need it as governors. As an example, 5 bidders for this one recently: https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1265421564292366388 [02-Aug-24 11:05 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am saying about other goods Not specificaly OFF [02-Aug-24 11:05 AM] akyantor#0000 Ah, fair enough. [02-Aug-24 11:05 AM] marat_sh#0000 Plus If I sell OFF for 75/u that would be a loss [02-Aug-24 11:07 AM] akyantor#0000 I'm using my own supply of EPO and PG, which makes it doable to offer at that price. [02-Aug-24 11:08 AM] marat_sh#0000 Back to the point I was making ๐Ÿ˜… When people produce for themselves [02-Aug-24 11:11 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh, most intermediate materials are overpriced if you only account for consumables + base repairs. That's why I started out making most intermediate materials EPO, C, PG, PE, before attempting to make anything at the end of a production chain. [02-Aug-24 11:11 AM] akyantor#0000 There's a lot of money to be made in those goods before working up to making end products. [02-Aug-24 11:12 AM] akyantor#0000 It may be a little less satisfying than making stuff you can use yourself directly, but it was a good way for me to build up at the start. *I'm only 100-ish days in myself, and that's the route I went* [02-Aug-24 11:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 It's just frustrating that game about trading and economy having central location for trading and it's not even reflecting actual demand/supply in full extant [02-Aug-24 11:14 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh... that's somewhat true of the real world markets. A lot of trade isn't via an open market. ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Aug-24 11:14 AM] akyantor#0000 Even in equity trading that's true. [02-Aug-24 11:15 AM] marat_sh#0000 true but in real world you are not locked behind permits and there isn't 200-300 companies active [02-Aug-24 11:16 AM] akyantor#0000 There are some indirect ways to see production/demand. If you have a look at the LEAD command, you can use that to see the top 20 producers for a particular good. {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [02-Aug-24 11:16 AM] akyantor#0000 That can be a good way to tell if there's no demand, or just no visible demand on the market [02-Aug-24 11:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘† That is acctually a good Idea [02-Aug-24 11:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 thank you [02-Aug-24 11:16 AM] akyantor#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268965779139854346/image.png?ex=6814eff9&is=68139e79&hm=3611881f66d7b0b4be16b22d42f40b5b1dfc8bc78bf1f32094cb85df939340a6& [02-Aug-24 11:17 AM] marat_sh#0000 I also would love to see building people have on the planet to see what they consume [02-Aug-24 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 I've used this to understand the dark market for goods. i.e. would what I be making materially change the supply/demand based upon the numbers already in production. [02-Aug-24 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 Most of the time the answer is no. [02-Aug-24 11:18 AM] akyantor#0000 This is the moment when I realise that I'm top 15 for OFF. ๐Ÿ˜› {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268966187153232046/image.png?ex=6814f05b&is=68139edb&hm=61f8ffce9dc87b6762800daa3dfc0c3a2bd5cc71f7e6d903a5a86912714ddbe0& [02-Aug-24 11:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am 22 on PE past 7 days lol [02-Aug-24 11:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 I can technicaly double it and get to top 10 [02-Aug-24 11:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 But I am also producing REP [02-Aug-24 11:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 woah nice ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Aug-24 12:09 PM] mrsmith33#0000 auto-provisioned ads now show this in the description, but only after you accept the contract. It is also possible that there is not enough resources, like in this one {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1268978956686852147/image.png?ex=6814fc3f&is=6813aabf&hm=418bd10c0298a55499fef645ad7d1844f6a3bfe20e1b423a212913befc443dde& [02-Aug-24 06:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 anyone has some C on ANT? [02-Aug-24 06:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 Order from Exeler isn't filled yet and I am getting low [02-Aug-24 06:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 I do ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Aug-24 06:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 Send for however much you need to tide you over. Iโ€™ll either match Exelerโ€™s price or you can have it for free and send some back when you get the order filled ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Aug-24 06:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 I need 250 C @ 450/u [02-Aug-24 06:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can't go higher then that Low on cash since already paid for other order ๐Ÿ˜… [02-Aug-24 06:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sent [02-Aug-24 06:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Perfectly fine by me ๐Ÿ™‚ [02-Aug-24 06:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 Thank you ๐Ÿค {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Aug-24 11:24 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I gues I should track CoGC and stuff for Halcyon [03-Aug-24 09:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 I can help out if you're interested, since I'm on the council anyway ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Aug-24 09:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 Do we have any N producers in the corp? Thinking of doing a big run of NS to get rid of all this LST I have {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269296716880806033/image.png?ex=6814d2af&is=6813812f&hm=b2b0d3bfe2b346c2ce3e43edbbccec063265215c20285e3a0e4186676c4e6af1& [03-Aug-24 10:24 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Hello all, i'm interested in starting a bank to compete with lowstrife. The idea is to take deposites from large established players and loan it out to smaller players at a higher interest rate. [03-Aug-24 10:24 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Out of curiosity, would any here be interested in depositing some cash. Before I post in the UFO server I might as well start here [03-Aug-24 10:26 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 The idea would be that cash is deposited for 10-12 week as an interest loan at 1 or 2%. At the end of the period, the cash is either given back or re-invested for another period [03-Aug-24 10:26 AM] .urpalhal#0000 No but I can steal from nano [03-Aug-24 10:26 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Nano? [03-Aug-24 10:26 AM] .urpalhal#0000 In AA [03-Aug-24 10:27 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 what is that, not aware of this [03-Aug-24 10:27 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Aluminum Alliance itโ€™s where Rise and company do all their projects [03-Aug-24 10:27 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 In general, I would need a first deposit to get started, then it becomes self sustaining [03-Aug-24 10:27 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 If they have cash to invest, i wont discriminate haha [03-Aug-24 10:29 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh sorry my message was more towards Sidepipe than you and your bank idea [03-Aug-24 10:30 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 oh ok explaisn why i was confused [03-Aug-24 10:44 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ill donate to the bank [03-Aug-24 10:44 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I've got one dollar [03-Aug-24 10:46 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/i4bNgZprkCLQzkwAc0XorR5KKp7mVm9PpwcFOtt1n4w/https/media.tenor.com/vbD-reOsKf4AAAAe/spongebob-patrick.png [03-Aug-24 10:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Jokes aside, How many new players take loans? and how many of them are successfully repay it? Or play the game long enough to repay it [03-Aug-24 11:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 according to lowstrife's posts for his loan setup, almost all of them get paid back [03-Aug-24 11:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think it's a good idea but I am low on liquid cash, I keep spending it on neat projects, heh [03-Aug-24 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 Not sure if he does some kind of vetting process [03-Aug-24 11:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 also the OOG bank can guarantee your money at 1%/w, I think, and it's got a lot more solid backing [03-Aug-24 11:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 since it's based on the electronics bases [03-Aug-24 11:32 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 From chats I have had, there is quite a bit of demand for loans [03-Aug-24 11:32 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 People just donโ€™t know who to ask apart from lowstrife [03-Aug-24 11:49 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 lowstrife as stated he gets 2-3 request per day [03-Aug-24 12:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 is IDC a free money printer? [03-Aug-24 12:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep [03-Aug-24 12:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 *cough* I would like to get a loan for 20 mil *cough* [03-Aug-24 12:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 There's a lot of vetting and advertiing and daily maintenence if you were to regularly do public loans, and I think we can't automatically put that on allocater, so having a bank for that purpose specifically run independently by someone is a pretty good opportunity. There's also probably opportunities for cross-funding. Real banks loan each other money with a weird frequency [03-Aug-24 12:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think there's a ton of capital in OOG player accounts but it would need someone to manage the loans (and maybe assume the liability) [03-Aug-24 12:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 If Shrewdsun wants to take deposits, he can offer different rates for them based on which ones get lost first in the event of too many defaults [03-Aug-24 01:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 Oh yeah, I wasn't implying that the OOGB should change its policies, just that I can invest with them and get safer guaranteed returns, vs maybe only 1% more but (in my eyes) far riskier investments [03-Aug-24 01:24 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Indeed, I donโ€™t think it makes much chance for OOG members [03-Aug-24 01:24 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 But also talking about it here may bring in some insights on the loaning business [03-Aug-24 01:25 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im mostly at the research phase right now, if it doesnโ€™t seem like a good idea or there isnโ€™t much market fit, then no reason really to get into it [03-Aug-24 01:26 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 This being said, I do think there would be a market for large players to deposit their money for at least some small return [03-Aug-24 02:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 Archiel, are you content with daily contracts? amount? price? Any feedback? need more? need less? need less often? need more often? [03-Aug-24 02:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup, it works for me! You can send them less frequently if you want to save clicks. I figure as a new player having the liquid cash is probably helpful for you [03-Aug-24 02:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just shipped off 180k PE to one of my planets this morning, proably the next trip to that planet will be at least a week from now [03-Aug-24 02:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 I didn't track how many I've already sent you in past week ๐Ÿ˜… [03-Aug-24 02:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 My storage is filled and I don't need to resupply as often anymore. I will just stockpile them on ANT and you can just contract when you need them [03-Aug-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 nah you send em to me cause I'll forget and buy them on the CX [03-Aug-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜† [03-Aug-24 03:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 Works for me ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Aug-24 04:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 I finally figured out how to use the FX ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Aug-24 04:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 all you have to do is guess with lots of 1 until it shows up where you want, then trade your actual amount {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03-Aug-24 08:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am not ashamed to admit I do that all the time [04-Aug-24 12:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 @archielvahr don't forget to consider an AAF before bed [04-Aug-24 12:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 oh damn [04-Aug-24 12:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 it's bedtime [04-Aug-24 12:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 it was not yet considered [04-Aug-24 12:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 but I can make a post it note at home {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ซ [04-Aug-24 12:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 thanks I would have forgotten ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-24 09:32 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey everyone! I started second base in ANT space - on Nascent with 10 EXT for ALO Next step - move my main base from Promitor, dividing it on 2 bases for manufacturing and construction. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [04-Aug-24 09:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Wooo ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-24 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 Gonna convert your prom base to farming of some sort? The special thing about your prom base is that it's on a ghost plot [04-Aug-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 I would keep it to be honest No production [04-Aug-24 09:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 You donโ€™t pay for maintenance [04-Aug-24 09:43 AM] akyantor#0000 Worth holding on to a plot on a full planet. I'm still smarting from not having a spot on Demios now that I'm looking at more complex metallurgy products. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Aug-24 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 759d is now Agamemnon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Aug-24 11:17 AM] hernanduer#0000 I kinda like it [04-Aug-24 11:34 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, I just noticed that it changed. ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Aug-24 11:35 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Isnโ€™t that a Greek king? [04-Aug-24 11:35 AM] lancercaster#0000 King of Sparta during the Trojan War, if I'm not mistaken. [04-Aug-24 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 Apparently so [04-Aug-24 11:40 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ [04-Aug-24 11:43 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Anyone excited for satisfactory 1.0 launch? [04-Aug-24 11:43 AM] .urpalhal#0000 {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [04-Aug-24 11:45 AM] sidepipe#0000 I am! [04-Aug-24 11:46 AM] sidepipe#0000 I've been copying your coal power plan design ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅด [04-Aug-24 11:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 Factorio expansion is coming soon too! [04-Aug-24 11:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 with 1 month apart [04-Aug-24 11:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 Made some of my friends buy Satisfactory already [04-Aug-24 11:51 AM] katinga#0000 what does that mean? [04-Aug-24 11:51 AM] marat_sh#0000 You know space exploration mod for factorio? Devs making something similar or the copy of it [04-Aug-24 11:52 AM] katinga#0000 no I don't know. that's why I asked? [04-Aug-24 11:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 So in base game you launch rocket and it's over [04-Aug-24 11:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 you win [04-Aug-24 11:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 mod adds planets moon stations and new resources into the game [04-Aug-24 11:53 AM] marat_sh#0000 to build factories in space and other planets [04-Aug-24 11:54 AM] marat_sh#0000 the mod is much bigger then base game that why it was so popular [04-Aug-24 11:54 AM] marat_sh#0000 now they are making Space DLC for factorio [04-Aug-24 11:58 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I didnโ€™t know that my coal plant was worth copying ๐Ÿคฃ [04-Aug-24 12:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 getting factorio back before dev log #100 was definitely worth it [04-Aug-24 12:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think it costs more now than I got it then, even [04-Aug-24 12:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 Joined 2014-07-11 [04-Aug-24 12:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 lol [04-Aug-24 12:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 so yes, excited about the DLC ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-24 02:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 Well I think I am gonna start getting a lot of hate now because of my steam review [04-Aug-24 02:50 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Of Factorio? [04-Aug-24 02:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 Don't know if I am going to stick around after a month or two [04-Aug-24 02:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 PrUn [04-Aug-24 02:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 Go to Prun discord server to recent steam reviews [04-Aug-24 02:54 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿคง [04-Aug-24 02:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 Might have been not the best way to address the issue but I payed money and have rights to post reviews [04-Aug-24 02:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Change has to happen somehow [04-Aug-24 02:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 They hated him because he told the truth [04-Aug-24 03:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269751885472989194/image.png?ex=68152918&is=6813d798&hm=151ed2c405f3ea3d7d4c044bed596ce1902ad878fe69c5dcfb4bf4f0437d1c4f& [04-Aug-24 03:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269752003144323102/image.png?ex=68152934&is=6813d7b4&hm=7d703ebd9a68a4764ef77528e10be3ba789cedd72f16d3aafd8b266d1f726d0e& [04-Aug-24 03:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 Bruh It's jover [04-Aug-24 03:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Look at helldivers [04-Aug-24 03:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 With the PSN rollouts [04-Aug-24 03:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am very surprised how people are fine with such slow changes [04-Aug-24 03:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Idk there are a lot who arenโ€™t [04-Aug-24 03:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 And they donโ€™t play anymore [04-Aug-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 they game isn't dinamic enough for peoples attention [04-Aug-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 ones you have all of your permits filled and every item produced [04-Aug-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 you are done with a game [04-Aug-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 That was a massive W from a community [04-Aug-24 03:25 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Huge win [04-Aug-24 03:30 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Depends. I like the game slow as it is [04-Aug-24 03:31 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Also, it takes like a year to get there, every game has an end [04-Aug-24 03:32 PM] akyantor#0000 There's also the opportunity for internally driven goals too, stuff like #project-6115 [04-Aug-24 03:32 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 if feel thats just what the game does [04-Aug-24 03:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 I just think it will make easier for new casual players to stick around more when they engage in dynamic trading world [04-Aug-24 03:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 all activities happend behind PRO and not a lot are willing to pay [04-Aug-24 03:34 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 iv heard from the dev that they have 50% conversion to pro [04-Aug-24 03:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 making it more dynamic would in turn make it a different game [04-Aug-24 03:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I like that it is slow [04-Aug-24 03:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 New players have very little impacts since most trades happens not on CX [04-Aug-24 03:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 thats normal [04-Aug-24 03:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 cant expect every new player to impact the whole economy [04-Aug-24 03:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 I see what you mean, but I am just giving a perspective of a player who enjoys this kind of games and haven't played enough to become a fan boy "go my team go" [04-Aug-24 03:38 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i get that, i just feel like you are expecting a different game that what its trying to be [04-Aug-24 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 Well when I joined it I though it's a trading game + production in space. In reality it's a shadow market simulator with factorio kind of gameplay were inserters are operated through currency [04-Aug-24 03:40 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I stayed for the community is all Ive got to say [04-Aug-24 03:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 Community is amazing love you all [04-Aug-24 03:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 if you get ride of the player to player trade you end up with an idle game [04-Aug-24 03:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 that's my point! People don't trade and just hoard items [04-Aug-24 03:42 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 iv got alot of ideas of things they could do but what you are pointing to for me really isnt an issue [04-Aug-24 03:42 PM] akyantor#0000 I really don't think that's true for the vast majority of players tbh [04-Aug-24 03:42 PM] akyantor#0000 100+ days in and I'm not hoarding anything... pretty much selling everything I make via a combination of direct agreements and the CX {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 but is it true for old players? [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] akyantor#0000 I can't see that changing in the next 100-200 days [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 I hoard things but thatโ€™s just because I donโ€™t need the money immediately and get a better deal if I sell small bits over time [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 you cant design a game where there is no end game players [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s the fault of the game mechanic, itโ€™s just economics at work [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] akyantor#0000 I think you're looking for a theme park, when you're playing in a sandbox {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [04-Aug-24 03:43 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 also those players are an essential part of the game [04-Aug-24 03:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 Like I said, if people are forced to sell their items since hoarding isn't profitable... we would have had more dinamic trades on cx [04-Aug-24 03:45 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I dont know you could have that [04-Aug-24 03:45 PM] akyantor#0000 You wold just switch from people hoarding goods to hoarding cash. [04-Aug-24 03:45 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 also the markets the new players are in really dont suffer from that [04-Aug-24 03:45 PM] akyantor#0000 I don't think economically it'd make any difference [04-Aug-24 03:46 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Like sidepipe said, thats just economics at play [04-Aug-24 03:46 PM] akyantor#0000 Agreed. The less complicated goods that are accessible to a new player are all highly liquid on the CX... e.g. consumables, intermediate metals/plastics etc. [04-Aug-24 03:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 All I am saying oversupplying market should have downsides [04-Aug-24 03:47 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 but it does... [04-Aug-24 03:47 PM] akyantor#0000 And those goods are very much in demand from those older players. Every time I post an auction or CX post for them they're snapped up invariably by the older players. That's because they've moved on to higher complexity supply chains, and have don't maintain enough capacity for those goods to meet their own demand. [04-Aug-24 03:47 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 thats the main consideration when planning a base with high profit items [04-Aug-24 03:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269758898517053520/image.png?ex=681486e0&is=68133560&hm=730429b65477f7af1fb4b0e94418f93355882cb5725a48ad755f116e936b1360& [04-Aug-24 03:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 Pi dropped the price after the point I made [04-Aug-24 03:49 PM] marat_sh#0000 But I think it should happen naturally through competition and not discord messages [04-Aug-24 03:49 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 whats the issues here? [04-Aug-24 03:50 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 it does happen, i really dont see what the issue is. All you are discribing is exactly what happens [04-Aug-24 03:50 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 its lots of individuals trying to maximies profits. All behaviors are emergent [04-Aug-24 03:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269759659040968765/image.png?ex=68148795&is=68133615&hm=c77fa9a1bafc3757644b0dc01e92a28c6c82627b7c5e9f990487867fc84e13bc& [04-Aug-24 03:52 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 but whats the issue? i really dont get it [04-Aug-24 03:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 Maybe I am wrong if you guys don't see an issue of infinite storage I am sorry for spam [04-Aug-24 03:58 PM] tuffyless#0000 CX is restricted to 5 trades on any particular MAT. [04-Aug-24 03:58 PM] tuffyless#0000 And the CX warehouse rent is a black hole for currency. [04-Aug-24 03:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 i dunno ... what maximum size limit of CX warehouse you think isnt infinite.? [04-Aug-24 04:00 PM] tuffyless#0000 I just reached 60k on ANT and 15k on BEN. yikes, and not even trying to hoard or collect stuff. ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [04-Aug-24 04:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 didn't know that there is a limit. Product can just be linked from your storage to CX like EVE does. Like the item is phisicaly present [04-Aug-24 04:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am just going to drop it I am sorry that I've started it ๐Ÿฅฒ [04-Aug-24 04:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 Hey, not saying the discussion isnโ€™t valuable - just offering my perspective ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [04-Aug-24 04:58 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'd argue it's emergent market behavior. While you see people put stuff up at really high prices, you're missing the part where the lower part of the market sells out and suddenly they're making the profit they've been waiting on on those goods [04-Aug-24 04:59 PM] hernanduer#0000 Something like INS has big demand and doesn't go into much, so there's no reason anyone would hoard it. There's not really any reason for anyone to "hoard" anything. There are just people who are waiting for markets to dry up and they can take advantage. Idle items sitting on the top of the ask orders does nothing for anybody [04-Aug-24 05:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 This happens periodically in just about all markets [04-Aug-24 05:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 I do disagree with using it as a storage, but the costs on the 500k CX storage are really so low it's not even worth the headache [04-Aug-24 05:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 To be honest I didn't know that CX warehouse could go to 500k... Wow [04-Aug-24 06:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah 1000 levels * 500 per [04-Aug-24 06:48 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 per cx [04-Aug-24 06:48 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 you can get 4 of those [04-Aug-24 06:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 I agree that itโ€™s bad that thereโ€™s not more liquidity on the CX, but I think part of the problem is that the thinner demand for higher tier items is kinda problematic if youโ€™re trying to sell them, so you end up with a huge inventory or making big private deals (or a secret side market like ours ๐Ÿ˜) [04-Aug-24 06:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 I know this is an old discussion now, but I was reading everything while I was at the store and couldnโ€™t respond ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-24 06:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 I guess itโ€™s just tough to optimize for a fun market when thereโ€™s a lot of different ways to have fun with a market [04-Aug-24 06:59 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 my main counter-argument is that if you could find everything on the CX there would be no point in having a community [04-Aug-24 07:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, and if we could do private or corporate CXs, thereโ€™d be no point in having a CX. Itโ€™s interesting because in one way, I donโ€™t want any limitations on how I sell my things, but I also do kinda want a lot of limitations because they make things interesting (to me) [04-Aug-24 07:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Just some general thoughts I had. Thereโ€™s been a lot of CX discourse in general, not just here - I usually donโ€™t participate, but I do read a lot of it ๐Ÿ˜„ [04-Aug-24 07:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 Speaking of markets, Iโ€™m now undercutting lowstrife on certain FX markets and they see a bit more trade than I thought they would [04-Aug-24 07:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269809853195354152/image.png?ex=6814b654&is=681364d4&hm=f87e68ce4c77c3ce524da48f495b19cb2fd591c15d5c971bdabdf6e97d4ef74c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ (2) [04-Aug-24 07:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 hit 1 mil in equity [04-Aug-24 07:21 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Sadly, seting up in Mor broke my FIN report [04-Aug-24 07:22 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1269812624074473573/image.png?ex=6814b8e9&is=68136769&hm=4db0972cc36983026b285f18bf3793408086682781e3a5663a9f9aec5f64b643& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [04-Aug-24 07:23 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 the exchange rate is all wonky [04-Aug-24 07:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 Sweet sweet negative equity [04-Aug-24 07:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve always wondered how the exchange rate stuff in FIN goes so badly wrong. Theyโ€™re pretty close to 1 all the time, it seems [04-Aug-24 08:02 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I donโ€™t know seem to be 1 loan that screwed it up [04-Aug-24 09:52 PM] hernanduer#0000 Frostpunk 2 is this fall too, super excited about that [05-Aug-24 10:03 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ah I think this is when Churaviis left the game: http://kortham.net/temp/FTo4BlIYFo.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/FTo4BlIYFo.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/q8NFiwLMD7pJhjNA5rZQDCj4lMSFRc5--Q9IzCFEvbs/http/kortham.net/temp/FTo4BlIYFo.png [05-Aug-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 impressive, I hope to accumulate enough to blip the chart one day ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Aug-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 he did us all a service by reducing inflation [05-Aug-24 10:08 AM] lancercaster#0000 Damn...I'm only reducing inflation by this much. ๐Ÿ˜” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1270035708886909083/image.png?ex=6814dfed&is=68138e6d&hm=af831dd45b1ba9098c28103fbc3dfa7a9faf4898a1c3ad7a1a512c57fc671198& [05-Aug-24 10:09 AM] lancercaster#0000 Should I put this money in #bank-of-oog before I leave? [05-Aug-24 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 based on min-max, he had maybe 220mil? [05-Aug-24 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 so I'm halfway! [05-Aug-24 10:09 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, if you're aware before leaving, you can invest it and even withdraw it if you come back before universe end {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [05-Aug-24 10:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that's what I usually recommend for people. If they don't have some other project in mind, throw it all in the bank [05-Aug-24 10:10 AM] sidepipe#0000 1% interest per week ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Aug-24 10:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Churaviis's Apex LEAD board at level 57 adds up to $227,761,219 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [05-Aug-24 10:11 AM] hernanduer#0000 almost the exact difference between min-max, so adds up [05-Aug-24 10:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 I bet 200m would buy a planet or system named in your honor [05-Aug-24 10:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 that's how I'm goin' out [05-Aug-24 10:12 AM] sidepipe#0000 Also, if you think you might come back someday, demolish your buildings so you donโ€™t need to repair them all from 0 ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Aug-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 OS-099? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [05-Aug-24 12:23 PM] timomurbekov#0000 I guess I will left it with me to produce more agri in future๐Ÿ˜€ [05-Aug-24 12:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah ๐Ÿ™‚ If you want to run it low effort you can just sell the products on the local market there {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Aug-24 12:58 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Such an interesting discussion was here last night. When I was playing for the first time it was a lot of enthusiasm all over the Universe๐Ÿ˜€ , but a lot of players gone after some time due to restrictions with basic licence and lost of interest to the game. Returning 2 months ago, I found that prices almost for everything is much higher than it was 2 years ago. In my opinion it gives a lot of opportunities to the new players, as they could start more effective and quicker. [05-Aug-24 01:00 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 As a returning player, I can definitely say itโ€™s never been easier to start {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Aug-24 04:03 PM] sidepipe#0000 @parisinspringtime - could I toss you some cash for 2 TEC immigration programs on Aceland? I was helping out with an INS project in the ADI server and one of the bases is short on technicians {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [05-Aug-24 04:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 It looks like TEC have been ticking up pretty steadily so the problem should solve itself eventually. I just want to engage in the time-honored tradition of throwing money at problems ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Aug-24 06:49 PM] marat_sh#0000 Hmm I would like to get a financial advice ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Aug-24 06:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 So Scorpy want to start buying I (since it's not on CX) [05-Aug-24 06:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 CLI sells for 215 (3x 215 = 645 AIC per 1 I) [05-Aug-24 06:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 So he wants to provide CLI for free (transportation and rocks) and buy I for 400 AIC [05-Aug-24 06:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 Feels like a fair deal... considering the only thing I am going to lose is potetial profits from products I could have been producing [05-Aug-24 06:53 PM] marat_sh#0000 For now we agreed to my 12% daily production ( 10 I /d ) [05-Aug-24 07:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 On Heph it costs at least 130/cycle to run that at full experts [05-Aug-24 07:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 So you'd only be making, at most, 270/cycle [05-Aug-24 07:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 You can run it about 7.67 times a day per BMP, netting you only 2k AIC per BMP per day [05-Aug-24 07:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1270171039900368976/image.png?ex=6814b536&is=681363b6&hm=502c24a534d3897ebfe46d9afbcf117afb4352e51222769e87605b65ee7dca2a& [05-Aug-24 07:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 80% of income still PE though [05-Aug-24 07:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 I don't want to commit to I [05-Aug-24 07:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 fills inefficient [05-Aug-24 07:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 but it's also a deal from ADI which like a moral value [05-Aug-24 07:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 A really bad deal, just about any run of BMP will get you twice as much [05-Aug-24 07:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 that's what I am saying [05-Aug-24 07:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 Of course, you do save on shipping [05-Aug-24 07:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 So that's modest cost savings [05-Aug-24 07:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 + helping ADI [05-Aug-24 07:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 12% production isn't that much [05-Aug-24 07:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've told him that it's not going to be permanent deal. I am fine with it for now but I've told him that price would have to go up to make it on par with other products [05-Aug-24 07:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 If you've received help from ADI then I agree, but I follow very much a take-a-penny, leave-a-penny philosophy [05-Aug-24 07:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 I do get some items cheaper on ADI [05-Aug-24 09:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Can I inv Dvorak dwarf from ADI to public general? He has some questions about some CoOp stuff with us [05-Aug-24 09:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 sure anyone can join public [05-Aug-24 09:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 @archielvahr sent you a contract for 1 COM if you have it - I think you mentioned a while ago that you had some for HQ upgrades [05-Aug-24 09:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm so close ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1270214453463355464/image.png?ex=6814dda5&is=68138c25&hm=abc3c83d2abac3b0f63ab3a1ebd64d4bd60ddd38f4910d0bb54b0de0cddfb352& [05-Aug-24 10:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Woo, yep, I got em! [05-Aug-24 10:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got lots of TRU too! [05-Aug-24 10:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 On Nike, in fact [05-Aug-24 10:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 could I send you a contract for an oddly specific number of them? like, 29, for example? ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Aug-24 10:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Haha yep [05-Aug-24 10:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thanks! Now I just need to remember to add the COM to my next resupply ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Aug-24 10:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 that's the hardest part of the game imo [05-Aug-24 10:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh well I do have one on Nike by chance also ๐Ÿ˜† [05-Aug-24 10:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 ...can I swap you one on Nike for the one that will be there in 9 hours? ๐Ÿ˜ [05-Aug-24 10:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 My electronics is at 20% boost at lvl1โ€ฆ why yours 11.2? [05-Aug-24 10:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think there's some scaling with unused permits etc. I don't remember exactly how it all works, but more open permits -> higher bonus to a point [05-Aug-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh yup [05-Aug-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Or you can use the extra for your next upgrade {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [05-Aug-24 10:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 Ah makes sence. I have 1/2 which is 50% [05-Aug-24 10:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 The electronics bonus grows by the ratio of used to unused permits. [05-Aug-24 10:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup [05-Aug-24 10:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 Also, Archiel, how much would be too much PE/d for you? [05-Aug-24 10:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hmm, I can use up to ~14k PE per day [05-Aug-24 10:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you want to specialize in it, others in corp could use more, I'm sure [05-Aug-24 10:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 I was planning on it. Setting up a base on nike just for PE [05-Aug-24 10:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 And some consumables [05-Aug-24 10:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 You might want to do a manufacturing planet. PE has a cheap workforce but the cogc bonus can be really important. Lemme link a cogc example [05-Aug-24 10:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 There isnโ€™t that many cogc for manufacturing [05-Aug-24 10:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 The heph I will eventually use for PPF [05-Aug-24 10:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 Second on on Ant 1 for NL/KL [05-Aug-24 10:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah Astraeus is the option on Ant 1, it costs a bit more to build there [05-Aug-24 10:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, want to put less buildings there [05-Aug-24 10:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 For now I think itโ€™s fine to not use COGC until I build capital [05-Aug-24 10:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 As long as I make money itโ€™s fine [05-Aug-24 10:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 Plus I would still get 10% from corp HQ [05-Aug-24 10:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 and itโ€™s cheaper to build there [05-Aug-24 10:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 [05-Aug-24 10:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, those are good points [05-Aug-24 10:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 if you can get a heph base earlier, you can always retool it, there's not much cost in that, especially if you time it to when you'd be repairing. [05-Aug-24 10:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 So both fair [05-Aug-24 10:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 For BMPs, the workforce and degradation is very low, so you're mostly just missing out on the 1.25x multiplier. [05-Aug-24 10:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 My plan for now build up 20 BMPs on heph, place a base on nike and start building BMPs there and slowly replacing BMPs from heph to PPF [05-Aug-24 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which will be the from 128% to 160% (or on nike it will go from 141% to 176%) with full experts [05-Aug-24 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Gotcha [05-Aug-24 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that makes sense to me [05-Aug-24 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 good use of the permit space [05-Aug-24 10:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yes, plus liquidating as bases grow [05-Aug-24 10:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have enough soon to finish Heph base [05-Aug-24 10:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 250k in cash [05-Aug-24 10:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 No reason to build yet, since pop report isnโ€™t here [05-Aug-24 10:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 Also, right now I am producing 50 REP/d not sure how much people consume but itโ€™s sells pretty fast on CX [06-Aug-24 12:20 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone need any FS products? I have some spare prod lines [06-Aug-24 12:47 PM] melon164#0000 I could do with some bronze [06-Aug-24 01:07 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 sorry, was busy irl with dumb stuff. like work. [06-Aug-24 01:08 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 There are only 110 TECs short this week, which should be covered on next week's POPR in 3 days. [06-Aug-24 01:09 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 No need to run a Program. [06-Aug-24 01:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 No worries ๐Ÿ™‚ Didnโ€™t notice TECs were ticking up that much already! [06-Aug-24 01:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m not on the planet myself, so I didnโ€™t see any updates or anything like that {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [06-Aug-24 01:17 PM] mrsmith33#0000 How much do you need? I queued 60 BRO, will do more when I get CUO shipment from KI-840c [06-Aug-24 01:24 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Does anyone have a line on ALO? Looking for regular, reliable supply to feed into the smelter to turn into LSE to _eventually_ turn into good, wholesome HSE. [06-Aug-24 01:27 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iv got way more Al than I can use, if you want Al directly [06-Aug-24 01:27 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Else Hal98 as Alo [06-Aug-24 01:28 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I can even deliver to Nike if thatโ€™s where you need it [06-Aug-24 01:57 PM] parisinspringtime#0000 Awesome ty [06-Aug-24 03:28 PM] melon164#0000 https://media1.tenor.com/m/RzZ-TwmswgsAAAAC/agent-smith-give-me-more.gif {Embed} https://media1.tenor.com/m/RzZ-TwmswgsAAAAC/agent-smith-give-me-more.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kfGHy43FAwqH9d930FsKHoVvaRdCj8ExJ4Wh3VH7udQ/https/media1.tenor.com/m/RzZ-TwmswgsAAAAC/agent-smith-give-me-more.gif [06-Aug-24 03:28 PM] melon164#0000 500? [06-Aug-24 03:29 PM] melon164#0000 What price? [06-Aug-24 03:29 PM] mrsmith33#0000 How about 2k/u? [06-Aug-24 03:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 I definitely need some FET, at least 20, preferably like 100, anyone got some extra? That isn't already going into Bridges or other ship parts? [06-Aug-24 04:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks Hern! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [06-Aug-24 04:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 does any one have 32 BBH, 16 BDE, 32 BSE, 4 BTA on ANT or Nike? [06-Aug-24 05:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 BTA yes BSE yes [06-Aug-24 05:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh and BBH [06-Aug-24 05:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 Send contract when you have time ๐Ÿ˜‡ [06-Aug-24 05:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have BDE on ANT - 1k per if you send contracts ๐Ÿ˜ [06-Aug-24 05:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ok [06-Aug-24 08:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've sent both of you contracts on ANT [06-Aug-24 08:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 Thank you ๐Ÿค [07-Aug-24 06:47 AM] katinga#0000 Hey, y'all. Sorry that I haven't been online as much. I've been dealing with a medical issue. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (8) [07-Aug-24 06:55 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Hope you're feelling better! [07-Aug-24 07:31 AM] domicius#0000 Wishing you a quick recovery [07-Aug-24 07:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 Hope you are doing good [07-Aug-24 07:26 PM] katinga#0000 some malady in the right eye. opthamologist wants me to limit my screen time [07-Aug-24 07:53 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/2c6nGY5dHD8zZ0ydlljp00pw6uqB_ci67iX5r-XiK80/https/media.tenor.com/CW-0A0q-6ksAAAAe/touching-grass.png [07-Aug-24 07:53 PM] marat_sh#0000 well it is time for this ^ [08-Aug-24 07:54 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @archielvahr Are you looking for any CU derivative product? [08-Aug-24 07:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's gonna turn into Bronze, but I have extra time on that planet so I f igued I'd do it there [08-Aug-24 07:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 I would also take 100 bronze on ANT though, feel free to send some over ๐Ÿ˜„ whatever price, I dunno [08-Aug-24 07:59 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I just started making BRO and my supply of CUO is only 2 EXT, probably need to bump it [08-Aug-24 08:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 If I double my CUO extraction I could produce 60 BRO/day [08-Aug-24 08:33 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ah nice, yeah I can probably only use like 10/d on average. Trying to get a stockpile though [08-Aug-24 07:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've expanded my PE production... It will be more then 9000/d now [08-Aug-24 07:56 PM] marat_sh#0000 Prunplanner says 12k per day. We will see if it matches my resupply cycles [09-Aug-24 01:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Will you auction it? [09-Aug-24 06:17 AM] marat_sh#0000 Yes, I will start auctioning, how often do you guys want the auction? I bring PE to CX every day [09-Aug-24 06:18 AM] mrsmith33#0000 once or twice per week [09-Aug-24 06:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿซก [09-Aug-24 07:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 It's cooking {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1271439066432405586/image.png?ex=6814b4e7&is=68136367&hm=f36d947edd11ae1fa53a59eb25b21211ee0615124f05fbf97ce857f7cd54542a& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [09-Aug-24 03:38 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-gif-26515278 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-gif-26515278 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/a8_cKilZX8-3AXfZJMGdVd6XnkJ5GPmQ4wsvNkacTRw/https/media.tenor.com/jG-m1kDAe5oAAAAe/cooking-cook.png [10-Aug-24 04:45 AM] akyantor#0000 What a mega faction points mission. Just need to figure out what I can do to my ships to get the reward. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1271766363127549985/image.png?ex=68149439&is=681342b9&hm=de9061765651da3bae58a2feea96b9848c2d70fd0ca44c8b0404dc62abec340b& [10-Aug-24 04:47 AM] akyantor#0000 I was thinking stability system, but don't think I have many high or low gravity planets (if any) [10-Aug-24 04:48 AM] akyantor#0000 High-G seats, or maybe heat sielding [10-Aug-24 04:49 AM] akyantor#0000 AGS is probably the cheap option, just need to figure out if it's worth it [10-Aug-24 08:44 AM] hernanduer#0000 Unless you're using HTE or AEN it's not worth anything. You could add drones [10-Aug-24 09:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have 4 RDS on ANT [10-Aug-24 09:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 You can have one for free [10-Aug-24 09:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 They were from Churv [10-Aug-24 11:56 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Tree took down the power line in front of where I live so Iโ€™m confined to Prun on the phone for the time being [10-Aug-24 11:56 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Some bases might go out of supply but I canโ€™t do a weekly refill on my phone without losing my Ming [10-Aug-24 11:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 Oh, that sucks ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [10-Aug-24 11:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 Prun on the phone is surprisingly good for what it is, but still really rough to use compared to the desktop interface [10-Aug-24 12:24 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Not to bad for quick and easy stuff but buying and loading 10+ things onto ships is not one of them [10-Aug-24 12:24 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 We got 150mm of rain yesterday so iv got other things to deal with anyways [10-Aug-24 01:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 I really like the transfer interface actually, since it's just drag and drop on the phone [10-Aug-24 01:20 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Whatโ€™s impossible is knowing how much stuff is remaining in a base in terms of days. But a simple pickup is really quick on the go [10-Aug-24 03:08 PM] akyantor#0000 That'd work. I'd probably stick it on my starter ship. Thanks. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Aug-24 03:18 PM] akyantor#0000 Working my way up the faction rep rankings ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Aug-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Updated the ol' player list and base list. This time my google app script worked pretty well [10-Aug-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=101180624#gid=101180624 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=101180624 Ooga Booga Corporate Production https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/13JIH_cDaKetQnz0iLtiGOfrZdNZMA4eyIIvWCBCcCk/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIyGSsabMhlc1oEO7eEXtfBks1376UgJmlSYKv4hky5vezpoHfoPfjHi5RRcDc3bdqJmVNIKHF_Rvwhhgxe6WEytxQctYVOMIiKxDlU2TDfzU9g_4o1%3Dw1200-h630-p [10-Aug-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Kinda the first time it actually worked without a bunch of tomfoolery ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Aug-24 06:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 FIO database is a little behind, it doesn't really have governor information. And it never got activity information either [12-Aug-24 01:10 PM] katinga#0000 I don't have a base on Proxion anymore. i shut that down months ago [12-Aug-24 01:10 PM] katinga#0000 Or Gibson [12-Aug-24 01:10 PM] katinga#0000 Katinga IHM PRO GALAXY 1697998854393 Ironhoof Minerals 8/10/2024 2023-10-22 15 Proxion QJ-382c Life Etherwind SE-648c Gibson Harmonia Nascent Romulus Demeter Malahat Remus Nike ZV-759g Vulcan [12-Aug-24 01:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh FIO probably canโ€™t handle base removals. Just like player quits- it canโ€™t track those either [12-Aug-24 02:27 PM] melon164#0000 Not going to be able to run this full POL base on DEC for very long ๐Ÿ˜ณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1272637614603632700/image.png?ex=68151ca3&is=6813cb23&hm=fcd628d791ffd5144f0057b6a5fc05eb936effa6888eae53bdbb1b0188b8c946& [12-Aug-24 03:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 DEC is crazy [12-Aug-24 06:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Have you guys seen that Hazzah as quit the game. He had tens of million in outstanding loans [12-Aug-24 06:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Just lowstrife is taking 20 mil in losses [12-Aug-24 06:14 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Insula 17 mil [12-Aug-24 06:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 He has 25m with me. I was gonna message him. [12-Aug-24 06:58 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Look in the pirate report, one guy is trying to sort it out for him [12-Aug-24 06:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€ [12-Aug-24 06:59 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 He had once told me in private message he had 190 mil out... [12-Aug-24 06:59 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 He was paying Insula 10% interest [12-Aug-24 07:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 ouch. Hazzah doing his part to reduce the currency supply? ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Aug-24 07:02 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 The mother of all Prun ponzi [12-Aug-24 07:03 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 looks like the scheme collapsed [12-Aug-24 07:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Poor friend [12-Aug-24 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yes, he had a pretty high interest rate with me. Not that high. [12-Aug-24 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 At the time I was giving out something like five loans to different people. I had kind of mixed him up with someone else and accidentally gave him a second 10 million loan. [12-Aug-24 07:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Then I think I gave him loan for a ship he bought also [12-Aug-24 07:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 I guess it's kinda hard to do take-backsies with a loan ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Aug-24 07:06 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 wonder if that gonna cool off the loan market [12-Aug-24 07:06 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 happy i got mines before that [12-Aug-24 07:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 The stars that shine the brightest burn out the hardest heh [12-Aug-24 07:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 There is some sort of overlap between the personality that wants to grow hard and max out fast with either the burn out or real life stuff [12-Aug-24 07:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean real life can come up for anyone [12-Aug-24 07:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, they just get bored [12-Aug-24 07:18 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I think this guy had big plans, he failed to consider one or two variable and got fed up [12-Aug-24 07:18 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Insula shared me his repayment plan and it wasnt accouting for inputs it seems [12-Aug-24 07:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahhh oops [12-Aug-24 07:19 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Based on the Prunplan and his payment schedule, his repayment plan was taking the rough profit, not net [12-Aug-24 07:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm well I think as debtors we could work something out. [12-Aug-24 07:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 This interest rates were quite high [12-Aug-24 07:20 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I know Insula is considering buying the debt from all the debtors and coming to a consolidated agreement with Rim [12-Aug-24 07:21 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 If that is something intereting to you [12-Aug-24 07:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah heh definitely [12-Aug-24 07:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 You can message him if thats the case [12-Aug-24 07:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 He'll surely be happy to negociate with you {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Aug-24 08:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh guys it's 52,280,000 in loans [12-Aug-24 08:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 lmao I messed up [12-Aug-24 08:39 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 damn... [12-Aug-24 08:39 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 what did the guy tell you he was building [12-Aug-24 08:40 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Added with Lowstrife and Insula, thats 100mil+ loans [12-Aug-24 08:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 I confused him with other guys [12-Aug-24 08:40 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 80mil+ wipped out [12-Aug-24 08:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 lol [12-Aug-24 08:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Im gonna start sending you random contracts haha [12-Aug-24 08:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 noooooo [12-Aug-24 08:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 it would totally work lol [12-Aug-24 08:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's a lotta money [12-Aug-24 08:42 PM] hernanduer#0000 the reintroduction of that money to the economy has single-handedly raised the prices of all assets by measurable percents ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Aug-24 08:42 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 cant believe the guy just vanished [12-Aug-24 08:42 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 id never dare ghost people with my current loans, let alone 3x them [12-Aug-24 08:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 honestly I'm not sure [12-Aug-24 08:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 what he did with it [12-Aug-24 08:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Made an IDC base, made a tech base on malahat [12-Aug-24 08:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 so maybe malahat should pay for that as a sponsored base ๐Ÿ˜† [12-Aug-24 08:44 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Still, his 190mil number seems like its turning out true [12-Aug-24 08:44 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I just cant fandom 190mil of loan worthy smart investments [12-Aug-24 09:07 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I think I could build all of my bases, and most of my ships for that much [12-Aug-24 11:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™m not even worth a third of that [12-Aug-24 11:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 But wow thatโ€™s insane [12-Aug-24 11:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Like a bunch of Chinese real estate companies defaulting on their loans irl [13-Aug-24 01:59 AM] akyantor#0000 And there I was worrying about borrowing 15m. ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [13-Aug-24 02:00 AM] akyantor#0000 I'd be facinated to know what it was spent on! [13-Aug-24 01:25 PM] zipatsu#0000 2 extra H2O bases ๐Ÿคญ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [13-Aug-24 01:33 PM] allocater#0000 OOG Bank also has demands for 16.8mil [13-Aug-24 01:37 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Glad to know if my operations fail, I wonโ€™t be the biggest failure haha! {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) ๐Ÿ‘† [13-Aug-24 01:38 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™m tight as always but in no real worry on that frontโ€ฆ just gotta manage liquitities [13-Aug-24 01:39 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 PP3s are hell of expensive to keep fed. Switched a lot of my production to create inputs for it but didnโ€™t realize it would create a bid dead time where I would stop generating cash [13-Aug-24 02:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1272994632099168337/image.png?ex=681517a3&is=6813c623&hm=55ca1984f0fa4b08dc4170b09457d5e77aa8afec37f45e761fe7b635bc309190& [13-Aug-24 02:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 It's a good feeling to not own anything to anyone {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [14-Aug-24 12:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 what's he gonna do with all that? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1273149608054493276/image.png?ex=6814ff38&is=6813adb8&hm=75c23170782f1b26bb7ea3f81a9ebbf6f7188c614c2cbd1b6bf9a356256c65ad& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [14-Aug-24 04:19 AM] domicius#0000 Hey guys, the time had come for me to move on. It's been a fun 3 years but I need to redecorate this corner of my mind that PRUN is taking up. Who shall I give all my stuff to? {Reactions} โค๏ธ (10) ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [14-Aug-24 04:42 AM] melon164#0000 Sorry to see you go [14-Aug-24 04:43 AM] melon164#0000 I can take the stuff and do the distributions, but that'll spread the work of contracts around everyone else ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [14-Aug-24 06:53 AM] domicius#0000 I don't know what makes sense to centralise vs give individually. I have lots of B and L fabs which typically we centralise. The various other stuff I can auction, the inputs I will liquidate, and then the cash goes to the bank i suppose? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Aug-24 08:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 We will miss you! Glad to have you back any time too ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Aug-24 08:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah Iโ€™m also happy to take whatever. Probably I could use anything related to ship components (AML or ASM products esp) or anything you want earmarked for project 6115. Eventually we will need universities and bigger POPi buildings out there [14-Aug-24 10:09 AM] domicius#0000 I only have software, I was going to give that to @allocater . I'll probably be a week centralising all stock on ANT anyway. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Aug-24 02:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @melon164 I will arrive to KI-401d in an hour to take AR [15-Aug-24 05:14 AM] mrsmith33#0000 @melon164 Is 3000t/1000m ship enough for 700 AR? Not sure why fulfillment failed [15-Aug-24 05:19 AM] melon164#0000 I can't fulfil to a ship, you need to rent a warehouse briefly {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [15-Aug-24 05:19 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I rented [15-Aug-24 05:20 AM] melon164#0000 gah, 700u is 1248t [15-Aug-24 05:20 AM] melon164#0000 need to split it in half [15-Aug-24 05:20 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Does it not let partially fulfill? [15-Aug-24 05:20 AM] melon164#0000 No, not in this direction [15-Aug-24 05:21 AM] melon164#0000 need to cancel, then you can either put up two half-orders or I can put up a shipping contract that we can then breach [16-Aug-24 10:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 Finally got in top 15 (7 d) for PE / OFF / REP ๐Ÿ’ต {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) ๐Ÿฅณ (5) [17-Aug-24 01:14 PM] katinga#0000 Does anyone have RATs to sell? the CX prices keep climbing [17-Aug-24 01:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 how many do you need? I don't have any on hand right now, but I might be able to fill an order in the next few days depending on what you need [17-Aug-24 01:19 PM] katinga#0000 at least 5k. 8k would be better [17-Aug-24 01:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've got 3k at Norwick that I can get to you tomorrow ๐Ÿ™‚ [17-Aug-24 01:22 PM] akyantor#0000 I'd like some at some point too. I've been going to buy orders on the market. ๐Ÿ˜› [17-Aug-24 01:22 PM] akyantor#0000 I wonder why it's suddenly gone up so much [17-Aug-24 01:23 PM] katinga#0000 Greed [17-Aug-24 01:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 everyone's expanding, but no one is building farms and FPs ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 01:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 if you both send me contracts for 3k @ 60/u with long deadlines, I'll fill them as I make the RATs [17-Aug-24 01:27 PM] katinga#0000 Maybe we need a RAT project. There doesn't seem to be many folks making them [17-Aug-24 01:28 PM] akyantor#0000 I think I'll need to look into it after I complete my current project. [17-Aug-24 01:28 PM] katinga#0000 avoid cooking rats. it's an absolute mess when they fall into the pot {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [17-Aug-24 01:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 honestly, it wouldn't be a bad idea for most folks to eventually build FRMs on harmonia and FPs on norwick. It's pretty cheap and gets you a consistent supply [17-Aug-24 01:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've kinda hit the limits of what I can make outside of another FP planet to use up the rest of what I make on SE-110b [17-Aug-24 01:30 PM] katinga#0000 Unfortunately, I don't have that option [17-Aug-24 01:30 PM] akyantor#0000 I'll need to find an alternate place to make green stuff for inc [17-Aug-24 01:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 idk, I feel rations should be more expensive in general. there's not much incentive in making them over FIM and COF, for example [17-Aug-24 01:34 PM] akyantor#0000 That's fair [17-Aug-24 01:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I took down my FRM bases because they were making half the income of my other least profitable bases ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [17-Aug-24 01:35 PM] katinga#0000 Rule of Acquisition #284 Deep down, everyone's a Ferengi [17-Aug-24 01:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 i make ~1000 excess RATs a day to sell, with 5 bases supporting it (harmonia, norwick, SE-110a/b, ISA) [17-Aug-24 01:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 but that's 60k/day at corp prices for 5 bases, which is why I make a ton into lux consumables to sell [17-Aug-24 01:38 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, probably good for new players if the price is a bit higher [17-Aug-24 01:38 PM] akyantor#0000 given it's a good starting good [17-Aug-24 01:40 PM] katinga#0000 my FRM base on Harm is part of an AA project. My FRM base on Demeter is for GRN to fuel my own burners for C so I can smelt my ore. that leaves my base on Life where I grow CAF, which seems to be the only crop that's cost effective to grow on a HYF base given the cost of NS on the CX [17-Aug-24 01:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have a HYF base that grows HCP for burning. It seems very effective per unit area [17-Aug-24 01:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 i get that. it just doesn't make a ton of financial sense for me to sink more bases into RAT production at corp prices atm [17-Aug-24 01:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 not that I don't like giving you all cheap RATs ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 01:46 PM] katinga#0000 *sits down at the table with her reconstituted RAT meal and looks down at it* Why is there a fingernail in this? [17-Aug-24 01:47 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, I'm fine getting it from the market at this point. ๐Ÿ˜› [17-Aug-24 01:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yes, rats are expansive but I think itโ€™s not at the point that you canโ€™t afford cx prices [17-Aug-24 01:48 PM] akyantor#0000 I'll probably do as @archielvahr has done and move to HCP for burning with a HYF base so I can free up Harm for RAT focused farms, at some point after my current projects. [17-Aug-24 01:49 PM] katinga#0000 Maybe we could recruit some newbie players and sponsor FRM bases for RAT production. FRM bases on Harm wouldn't be that expensive to sponsor [17-Aug-24 01:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've thought about doing something like that. It's just a tough sell because at some point, they'll want to drop FRMs for the same reason most folks do. There's just better things to do with the permits / area / fertility / whatever [17-Aug-24 01:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 Do I count as a newbie ๐Ÿ˜…? 2.5 mil in equity and 1 full base permit? [17-Aug-24 01:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 you want a FRM and FP base? ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 01:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 Not really what I want to do myself but I can help out if corp needs [17-Aug-24 01:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 idk. at the end of the day, you should do what you think is fun because none of us will go broke buying rations from the CX {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (3) [17-Aug-24 01:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 but if you're interested, we can figure something out for sure [17-Aug-24 01:54 PM] katinga#0000 As they get more established in the game, they could set up bases to increase their profits. but the short term supply of the ag products and Rat production would be alleviated [17-Aug-24 01:55 PM] katinga#0000 which RAT recipe should be favored though? there are several [17-Aug-24 01:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 i guess maybe put slightly differently - I'm not building more FRMs and FPs because there's more profitable things to do. how can I sell to a newbie that they should be building them when I don't want to? ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 01:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 i do GRN, BEA, VEG, with all the high h2o inputs (since I extract my own water and want to maximize output) [17-Aug-24 02:00 PM] katinga#0000 Hi! Some members of OOG will help sponsor 1 or 2 bases for you to help with our RAT supply, where you'll have an established customer base and demand. [17-Aug-24 02:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 Sure, but selling to us at 60/u when you could sell them into the CX at 150/u is a rough deal. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [17-Aug-24 02:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah so a full harmonia farm base costs 421k, and makes a profit of 28,683 per day. [17-Aug-24 02:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-17_14-02-56.png [17-Aug-24 02:03 PM] katinga#0000 RATs can also be processed again into FIMs or MEA. also no reason they couldn't sell some RATs on the CX. we wouldn't be their only buyers [17-Aug-24 02:05 PM] katinga#0000 that's not terrible for a new player [17-Aug-24 02:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm, I dunno. 15d ROI isn't bad. It's kinda the lowest amount you can make with a full base I think. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ But it's cheap. [17-Aug-24 02:06 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, in corp price should be higher ๐Ÿ˜› [17-Aug-24 02:07 PM] katinga#0000 A new player could cover that with an ADI grant. just sayin. ADI grants are usually around 700k? [17-Aug-24 02:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 yup [17-Aug-24 02:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 So that's 59 of each crop per day with 5 experts. An all FP base costs 780k, uses 137 of each crop per day, and makes 73k per day. [17-Aug-24 02:09 PM] katinga#0000 the new player doesn't really risk anything, tbh. and they wouldn't have to sell at 60/u. I'd easily pay 90 or a 100 a unit for RAT. the new player still makes a chunk of change. [17-Aug-24 02:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 So if they had 2 FRM bases, 1 FP base, that's 43k per base. Add a little DW. That's okay. Since harmonia is the only easy farming starter, we'd have to even it out among new players- not everyone gets a FP base probably. [17-Aug-24 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 oops: correction on the FP base. With luxury goods it's 173 of each crop per day, making 91k of revenue. [17-Aug-24 02:11 PM] katinga#0000 there's almost no ROI to the player on a grant or base sponsorship. and ADI grant would even cover the HQ upgrades for enough permits [17-Aug-24 02:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm not 100% sure we can use the ADI grant for that though. It's supposed to be no strings attached {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Aug-24 02:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 but if oog wants to sponsor a farming setup, i'm sure we could make it work [17-Aug-24 02:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 So two possible paths: 1) Tell them, hey here's 750k, build this 13 frm, 7 HB1 base on harmonia and sell the products on the CX until you figure out the game. 2) Try to organize a deal where you provide them stuff and try to get paid back somehow, without strangling the noob's first base. [17-Aug-24 02:14 PM] akyantor#0000 There's also a chance the market self corrects anyway. AL spiked and has trended down again. [17-Aug-24 02:14 PM] katinga#0000 I'd be willing to sponsor a few bases [17-Aug-24 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which for me means something like... here's the money up front, but you must sell me your next 1800 BEA/MAI/NUT at half market rate, $110/u. Then if they don't quit early, you get your investment back. [17-Aug-24 02:16 PM] katinga#0000 I've only seen stuff like RATs go up. the DW market seems stable, but DW is way easier to make, too [17-Aug-24 02:18 PM] akyantor#0000 It's about the same price as it was 180 days ago. The low point / anomoly is when it was 70/u in may. [17-Aug-24 02:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do we have extra FP capacity in the corp, or would we need to sponsor that too? [17-Aug-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hmm, FPs are a lot easier to come by, so I think it would be easier to manage. I have 2 FP bases and they do a lot of FIM / MEA / DW that could be rations [17-Aug-24 03:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am a new player and my starting base makes 80k per day [17-Aug-24 03:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 Ultimately, I think part of the issue is that the way we do our internal market doesnโ€™t lend itself well to providing an adequate source of basic consumables for every corp member. This group probably uses in the 10,000s of RATs a day (though we do have lots of members that make RATs for their own use), and selling them internally isnโ€™t really profitable or interesting compared to a lot of the fab inputs / ship parts / fun chem stuff. Iโ€™m all for subsidizing folks to make them if thereโ€™s demand, but thatโ€™s (as you mentioned) a short term solution because theyโ€™ll probably want to move on to bases that make more than 20k in profit at some point. Long term, weโ€™ll probably have this problem again {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Aug-24 03:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 I was going to ask something similar at some point. So what is the point of corp? My first impression that people work together towards one goal and share the profits between members. In reality i only see order under the market price (which is bad because you are screwing people over with cheaper sales) [17-Aug-24 03:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m all for subsidizing people who want to farm and make rations, I just donโ€™t want to get into a situation where weโ€™re trying to lock people in because we want a guaranteed in-corp supply of something, thatโ€™s all [17-Aug-24 03:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Imo, the point is that we make the things we want to make, and we bro-price them for people in the corp because they do the same for us ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 03:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yes, but itโ€™s not great in the market based game ๐Ÿ˜… I feel bad for buying C for 500 AIC when it costs 750 [17-Aug-24 03:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 I would say its okay to supply recourses to expand or build projects for cheaper but Inputs and consumables should be at market price [17-Aug-24 03:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, you donโ€™t need to feel bad because I buy stuff off of you below market price [17-Aug-24 03:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 And everyone here is happy to offer the things at the price they list it at [17-Aug-24 03:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am just giving the outside point of view as a new player. I am still getting used to how things work here [17-Aug-24 03:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 I felt pretty much the same last December when I joined ๐Ÿ˜ [17-Aug-24 03:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 Feels like you can't really stay as a little guy indefinitely in this game if you want to expand There is always better apportunities somewhere to be made [17-Aug-24 03:21 PM] katinga#0000 Here's another point to consider, especially for newer players. The difference between money trickling in, or instant liquification. A new player can sell 1000 widgets to corp, at 80/unit (just for the example), and get 80k in their pocket on the spot. Or, he can sell those same widgets on the CX at 100 /u, but the money trickles in... because players in this game will buy 20 here, 300 there, then this guy buys 5. That player might make more money but it comes in more slowly. Sometimes over days. There is a lot to be said for cash in hand. The other option is that same player sells the 1000 widgets at a lower price anyway, because he can liquidate it faster by filling the green orders from other players. [17-Aug-24 03:24 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh for goods like RAT/DW the market moves fast enough that liquidation at spot isn't going to be all that slow. [17-Aug-24 03:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s kinda what I mean, @akyantor - corp market works great for a lot of goods, but the basic consumables donโ€™t have a liquidity issue {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Aug-24 03:27 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, that's right. For example NR market doesn't move all that often on the CX, but I've not had a problem selling to corp mates via auction. [17-Aug-24 03:28 PM] akyantor#0000 More than happy in that case to trade speedy sale for a discount to corp, particularly as a relatively new player. [17-Aug-24 03:30 PM] akyantor#0000 In exchange I often get more niche components for stuff like HQ upgrades, which would be expensive or harder to get on the CX. [17-Aug-24 03:31 PM] marat_sh#0000 I think it would also be a good idea to 'order' items that you not really producing but willing to pay X for Y items in Z time [17-Aug-24 03:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 Since people not really using contract deadlines that often (at least I haven't seen) and just close contract on the same day [17-Aug-24 03:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 Lets say you need 40 PSLs but nobody is producing them since it's not profitable to constantly produce them or produce them and wait for a sale. You can order the amount you need for the period you need [17-Aug-24 03:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 At the end of the day, the point of the internal market is to help you all expand fast, because we all benefit when you expand ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 03:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/expand-factorio-gif-23176832 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/expand-factorio-gif-23176832 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/L4pfIdWmQfCrn5wC27jskWj3dxgjivvHXwZcyYy8OxA/https/media.tenor.com/YXw2Q62vo_UAAAAe/expand-factorio.png [17-Aug-24 03:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 "EXPAND" [17-Aug-24 03:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://tenor.com/olfQogBfVRb.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/natalienoodles-linux-willow-gif-11900339483607478639 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/y52izoiBxNVxcsh18Cx5dYYkMtSJuZ4_yDsBcn1481w/https/media.tenor.com/pSZ_tar6sW8AAAAe/natalienoodles-linux.png [17-Aug-24 03:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 Every time I hear the word 'expand' [17-Aug-24 03:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2_BnCOWPM {Embed} martincitopants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2_BnCOWPM The most addictive game Factorio, very powerful digital crackโ„ข. Handle dangerous substance with extreme care. Probably the most addictive game to ever grace this terrible planet. I would recommend purchasing this game for extended eyeball stimulation. Twitter: https://twitter.com/martincitopants VOD channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChp9HmpAUJx2352TFlgaZdw Twi... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WrW57n9oaR9dMJX3u1ivnix89EkfV5yg0_DkwTmPZXo/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/-X2_BnCOWPM/maxresdefault.jpg [17-Aug-24 06:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 woooop [17-Aug-24 06:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 I might have made an oopsie [17-Aug-24 06:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 bought EPO instead of INS [17-Aug-24 06:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 so I guess I am gonna make 1500 OFF into additional 1500 OFF I already have [17-Aug-24 06:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 Anyone interested getting them OFF my hands once they are done? [17-Aug-24 06:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, many of us will buy OFF, good for governors {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Aug-24 07:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm making a lot of extra agri products these days, just hiking them up on the CX [17-Aug-24 07:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 Also HYF bases are great if you wanna make the NS yourself on 639d, it's cheap to do. [17-Aug-24 07:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 I only spend like 60% time there making NS, still have room for MED and IND and other stuff [17-Aug-24 07:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 Then I take all that NS and fuel an entire HYF base with it [17-Aug-24 07:09 PM] hernanduer#0000 Then that fuels like 1.5 full FP bases, of which I now only use like .5 of [17-Aug-24 07:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have Harmonia for GRN and Demeter for ORCs and HER [17-Aug-24 07:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm pretty happy with the setup, would recommend FRMs only for GRN and HER though [17-Aug-24 07:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 The margins on HYF are lower but obviously it's about valuing the permit [17-Aug-24 07:13 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 whats the per permit profit? was never able to make it worth. I do have a harmonia doing FRM/HYF into C but that harmonia base is abyssimale and heavy on the logistics [17-Aug-24 07:17 PM] hernanduer#0000 okay let me bust out some math real quick [17-Aug-24 07:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 okay so .3 of a permit to make NS (including N from RIGs on 639d), that gets you 128 NS 1 permit of all HYFs running only 1:1:2 of ALG:MAI:VEG gets you 245 of each and eats 122 NS 1 permit of FP eats 180 agri products and makes 1800 RAT/d .75 permit to make the H2O to feed the HYFs [17-Aug-24 07:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 assuming linear expansion of the RAT base to eat all agri products, you can use about another .35 permit [17-Aug-24 07:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 so 1.35 permit of RAT production from the other .75 + .3 + 1 = 2.05 permits feeding it [17-Aug-24 07:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 now how many permits does it take to get RAT production from FRM? [17-Aug-24 07:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 hold on, more math [17-Aug-24 07:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 assuming you go BEA:GRN:VEG, you'll need 3.7 bases on fertile planets to equal the output from the single HYF base [17-Aug-24 07:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 you'll need less water, only 800, which equates to about another .4 permit [17-Aug-24 07:26 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 hum, yeah it does make a bit a sense. I guess i always looked at it from the lense of C production [17-Aug-24 07:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 so in total, to use FRMs to equal, you'll need 4.1 bases [17-Aug-24 07:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 vs 2.05 bases [17-Aug-24 07:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 and 4 bases on fertile planets at that [17-Aug-24 07:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 enjoy those logistics [17-Aug-24 07:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 for C production, I don't know really, I've never made C in my entire time [17-Aug-24 07:28 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 How much money does that make? my Harmonia + Etherwind gives me a combined 100k and i wouldnt build that today [17-Aug-24 07:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 so the end product is the same, 1.35 bases worth of RATs [17-Aug-24 07:28 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 per day* [17-Aug-24 07:28 PM] hernanduer#0000 about 2450 RAT/d [17-Aug-24 07:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 but in one case, you spend 2.05 + 1.35 = 2.4 permits to make 2450 RAT, and the other case you spend 4.1 + 1.35 = 5.45 permit to make RAT [17-Aug-24 07:30 PM] hernanduer#0000 there are no extra products in these calculations, they're all narrowed down to the only end product being 2450 RAT [17-Aug-24 07:31 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 my main things i guess is id just buy it from the CX and keep my permits to do some PP3 [17-Aug-24 07:31 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 and inputs [17-Aug-24 07:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 well then you get back to volume and movement [17-Aug-24 07:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 rfabs don't really have a big market [17-Aug-24 07:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 they sell but it takes a while [17-Aug-24 07:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 and you also have to account for all the inputs to the PP3s [17-Aug-24 07:35 PM] hernanduer#0000 assuming you make them, they too can be a lot (of permits) [17-Aug-24 07:36 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 indeed, each of my PP2/PP3 bases need 4/5 input bases [17-Aug-24 07:36 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 but they themselve make a bit [17-Aug-24 07:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, in theory most things will be roughly balanced [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 2.4 permits for ~350k in revenue, maybe 300k in profit [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 it's a pretty good deal in my book [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 thats quite good indeed [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 (I actually use about 75% of my own RATs so I never really make money off them lol) [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 ^^^^ [17-Aug-24 07:37 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i might pivot harmonia to that [17-Aug-24 07:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 fertile planets are best for GRN and HER and ORCs [17-Aug-24 07:38 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/orc-smile-gif-10315643652749609661 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/orc-smile-gif-10315643652749609661 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZyoTFKTYvf_xTMWkLQf172Zjp-e1J1W5-ZINBUHi09w/https/media.tenor.com/jyiHP1-nSr0AAAAe/orc-smile.png [17-Aug-24 07:38 PM] katinga#0000 ORC the other green meat? [17-Aug-24 07:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 no elvses [17-Aug-24 07:39 PM] katinga#0000 elves are blueish purple [17-Aug-24 07:40 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-dance-warcraft-night-elf-female-alizee-jen-ai-marre-gif-27495484 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-dance-warcraft-night-elf-female-alizee-jen-ai-marre-gif-27495484 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yppl80JPVhmTkcTMNkN3LchfkWMLjtdwSD_GzHrUOpo/https/media.tenor.com/_FTne6eB1-EAAAAe/world-of-warcraft-dance-warcraft-night-elf-female.png [17-Aug-24 07:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was more just saying, no elvses allowed [17-Aug-24 07:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-im-not-listening-dont-care-gollum-gif-3417027 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-im-not-listening-dont-care-gollum-gif-3417027 Gol https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/34sRh62YNTuzMbMM6jXxWmBF_fuVJQxFo6OURJ0QB44/https/media.tenor.com/xt3BBlLpBzQAAAAe/hobbit-im-not-listening.png [17-Aug-24 07:41 PM] katinga#0000 I'll take elves over gnomes [17-Aug-24 07:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 gnomes are just scam hobbits [17-Aug-24 07:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 store brand hobbits [17-Aug-24 07:43 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 how do you get 1800 rat? i can only get 1400 [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 did you forget experts? [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i put 4 in [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 5 is a big difference [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 even 4 is 1630 [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i put them in agri... [17-Aug-24 07:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh lol ya [17-Aug-24 07:45 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Whats the odds of finding that on the cx? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1274529600650739712/image.png?ex=6814be70&is=68136cf0&hm=21f956e12c25b36deda5feef708899bd2b329d4ffc10fa58d69a1d3d3936aedc& [17-Aug-24 07:45 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 because im getting 105k on the FP base and 30k on my current harmonia [17-Aug-24 07:46 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 and ideally id just cut harmonia [17-Aug-24 07:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 Probably not great, very few people regularly sell agri [17-Aug-24 07:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 Not great, basically all agricultural products are vertically integrated [17-Aug-24 07:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 Though like I said, I'm selling a lot now [17-Aug-24 07:48 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 just that hit on the agri planet is hard to swallow when i could just make pg or cl for cheaper and less ships [17-Aug-24 07:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 About 80/d excess [17-Aug-24 07:49 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 the last bases i dropped are these all fed with a single LCB so hard to dedicate a ship to FP/AGRI when that the alternative [17-Aug-24 07:49 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1274530543421227121/image.png?ex=6814bf51&is=68136dd1&hm=1c9516baa2c4ba15a857bf28201a7aedd33fb2fa252f3a64029a4949935aea38& [17-Aug-24 08:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'd argue the whole 105k FP + 30k FRM can be treated as 135/2 per base since there's no other way to get FPs running. But the shipping would definitely be an issue if you're limited {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [17-Aug-24 08:01 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Indeed in terms of $/permit [17-Aug-24 08:02 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 My main thing with shipping isnโ€™t really the number of ships but reducing my required playtime filling ships [17-Aug-24 08:02 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 This being said a major disadvantage of 6-7 bases per ship is the amount of stock you need as there is a 2-3 week lag between raw input and final product [17-Aug-24 08:03 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Been really hard on the cash flow, particularly the PP3s [17-Aug-24 08:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 Imagine 'automated transportation' [17-Aug-24 08:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 XIT actions but for loading ships would be amazing [17-Aug-24 08:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 or a feature from the devs. recurring shipment [17-Aug-24 08:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 They've been given clear boundaries that if it does an action for you then it's cheating [17-Aug-24 08:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 It can only aggregate data and redisplay it [17-Aug-24 08:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 Well running 20+ bases doesn't look that appealing in that case lol [17-Aug-24 08:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 And I'll let you know that ships are cheap when a permit is 25mil [17-Aug-24 08:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [17-Aug-24 08:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 I use fio's burn page to do all of my base feeding, tbh if that ever breaks I'd probably stop playing [17-Aug-24 08:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 I do have free time to play this game now but as soon as I become busy... I would just not gonna have enough time to do resupply runs [17-Aug-24 08:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 It only takes maybe 10 minutes in the morning for me [17-Aug-24 08:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 Sometimes if I'm antsy I do it at night too for any flights that were shorter [17-Aug-24 08:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 damn thats good, I thought it would be way worse [17-Aug-24 08:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 well I guess you know what you are doing [17-Aug-24 08:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 8 ships, I scan the burn page, if base is below 10 days supply I check what it needs, make sure the return products make sense for the given ship, and send it off [17-Aug-24 08:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 Now I'm using pmmg flags to mark return items so I don't even need the burn page for that part, just my computer browser [17-Aug-24 08:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 It saves my energy for exciting things, like 6115 [17-Aug-24 08:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 To answer the INC question: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-17_20-38-58.png ISA makes 1500 water per day, Thalassa B uses 1000 H2O and makes 600 HCP, Thalassa D uses 300 HCP and makes 300 C per day. So 1 HYF base with HCP feeds two INC bases. that comes up to me as: INC base gross profit 218k each... even if you write off the extra 500 water that's 440k for 4 permits minus workforce costs. {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-17_20-38-58.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lYn9Hqrq0YXryhGmAqN-uZb3VWT8HsSgqBgwogGjD2A/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-17_20-38-58.png [17-Aug-24 08:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 MUS in a HYF is really good. 12 MUS in 8 hr. I am pretty confident in the MUS/ NUT/MAI recipe [17-Aug-24 08:44 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Same 10-15 min at 20 bases [17-Aug-24 08:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 But then you gotta use FRM to make NUT [17-Aug-24 08:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I have some FRMs on demeter still, although I've been running off supplies and bought NUTs lately [18-Aug-24 10:31 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! How are you? Price competition on CX is not prohibited between members of corp? Are there are any agreements about this? I placed an order on CX just right after one of the members, is it OK? [18-Aug-24 10:32 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Thatโ€™s fine {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [18-Aug-24 10:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 It's all fair game outside {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [18-Aug-24 10:32 AM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/b0msN.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/capitalism-eric-bauza-stay-tooned-103-commercialism-gif-27216675 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/o7qEy2i5yYv1qKHWjdFgUH5fEiQlfd1KjlwxwvbHUXM/https/media.tenor.com/4MpPSsjyTHcAAAAe/capitalism-eric-bauza.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [18-Aug-24 10:33 AM] marat_sh#0000 good competition is healthy for economy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Aug-24 06:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1274866159237464074/image.png?ex=6814a662&is=681354e2&hm=15510732eed531ecb3021614fbef5325d6cd1138b4607112945a839ff3d44499& [18-Aug-24 06:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 what is this dmg damn [18-Aug-24 06:04 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Speaking of damage, I am now below 80% whatโ€™s the worst than can happen? [18-Aug-24 06:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 you go 20% slower and it's getting bigger ooooooo [18-Aug-24 06:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 Ant 3 has bad meteroids I think [18-Aug-24 06:21 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 is it basicly linear to the damage? so 60% is 60% of the speed? [18-Aug-24 06:22 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 iv got 2 at 75% so that would be 33% slower i guess [18-Aug-24 10:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 just use BTF to see an undamaged flight path and compare [19-Aug-24 06:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 how often PSM or PSL is being used? [19-Aug-24 06:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 There is no offers on PSM so I think I will start producing some [19-Aug-24 06:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use a lot of PSM but it's definitely only used in the high end stuff like unit prefabs, bridges, and fancy electronics [19-Aug-24 06:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 outside of manufacturing I see it's only used in prefabs [19-Aug-24 06:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 I assume prefabs are not used that often [19-Aug-24 06:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 PSM > DCM > BWS which goes into a handful of important things. But I make mroe APF products than most people [19-Aug-24 06:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 same for PSL > DCL > BMF, that makes LOG, FFC, LIS [19-Aug-24 06:54 PM] marat_sh#0000 basicaly high end stuff and not day to day consumption [19-Aug-24 06:54 PM] marat_sh#0000 I see [19-Aug-24 06:55 PM] tuffyless#0000 Both used in UPF products too. Like CQL's [19-Aug-24 06:58 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah my crazy plan would to make various CQ would use a lot of PSL and PSM [19-Aug-24 06:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/roge-yummy-gif-20293334 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/roge-yummy-gif-20293334 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/eUC4gxHtuxXieF2AHVwigPEKrN4BaCnprR0pLjivt4w/https/media.tenor.com/_-As-PnVtPMAAAAe/roge-yummy.png [19-Aug-24 06:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 2 maybe 3 whole bases of PSL/PSM out put [20-Aug-24 02:00 AM] melon164#0000 Yes ๐Ÿ˜ [20-Aug-24 02:01 AM] melon164#0000 I would buy an essentially unlimited amount of plastic products [20-Aug-24 08:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 Awesome! Good to know [20-Aug-24 08:36 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm perpetually out of PSM [20-Aug-24 08:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 So I'd buy a thousand at least once, haha [20-Aug-24 08:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 @exeler sorry Didn't see your contract for C (accidentally requested termination) Can you send it again or cancel termination? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Aug-24 10:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 This is a draft of an article that is sorta two things: 1) Guide to getting started in Antares 2) Promitor isn't really that great (cause ANT loses so many people permanently because they started on Promitor) https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/promitor-start/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/promitor-start/ Getting started in Antares | OOG Capital Management Promitor is actually pretty medicore. [20-Aug-24 10:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looking for any suggestions [20-Aug-24 10:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 For Deimos AL smelt you can add the points I made on mixing other metals to increase daily $ [20-Aug-24 10:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://prunplanner.org/plan/ZV-759c/3172047d-731b-4187-b6ed-0d99450b6cfa {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/plan/ZV-759c/3172047d-731b-4187-b6ed-0d99450b6cfa PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [20-Aug-24 10:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Adding ASMs? I was considering adding it, that's a good suggestion. I will make a side note about it. Cause I want ASM products, but I know for noobs they might not sell fast [20-Aug-24 10:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 not asm, Producing somthing in addition to AL (not just AL) Like Ti or Li {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Aug-24 10:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 they sell better then AL but in lower quantities [20-Aug-24 10:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 Overall I think a very good post. Great job ๐ŸŽ‰ [20-Aug-24 10:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ Thanks! [20-Aug-24 10:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 I might also make an OOG centric one, just to try to get our new folks into making DEC and ASM products and things I need ๐Ÿคฃ [20-Aug-24 10:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've maxed out my Heph base (area) so far and thinking about second base. Romulan-a to transfer my bmps there or start a chem planet (not really want it since I want to stay Manufacturing only to promote trade with less vertical integration) but it would make sense to go chem route. [20-Aug-24 10:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 You could consider chem for making DEC ๐Ÿ˜‰ [20-Aug-24 10:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 But chemistry in general is a safe bet for a second base. TRU and MHP could also be interesting (I think those count as manufacturing, but I could be wrong) [20-Aug-24 10:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 If I ever do chem building they will be PG - > PPF and PG / TCL - > KV / NL [20-Aug-24 10:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 Hmm, Agamemnon or Griffonstone would be a good option [20-Aug-24 10:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think TRU and MHL are both construction in WEL [20-Aug-24 10:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 Youโ€™re right. Iโ€™ve never done manufacturing, just a simple farmer and headphone maker ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Aug-24 10:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 But if youโ€™re not looking to vertically integrate, a chem base might actually be a good idea. Or at least manufacturing that uses different inputs than what youโ€™re using right now, so you can diversify a bit [22-Aug-24 10:20 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have empty ship going ANT - > Nike (500/500) anyone need delivery? (Free) [22-Aug-24 02:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276257188054306878/image.png?ex=681518a1&is=6813c721&hm=e342bdff909cd3addd421ebb5035c89c046ee6455f85d9b4486a47eefbd5a713& [22-Aug-24 02:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276257210636435456/image.png?ex=681518a6&is=6813c726&hm=04246272523ce1c6418c2e1777ab1871cc402d6212cb77440315d93914c1155a& [22-Aug-24 02:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276257228915081256/image.png?ex=681518ab&is=6813c72b&hm=c705574f918971be6a4afa4773ba8528b6b23967628ea2485a16196ceb707622& [22-Aug-24 02:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276257249999720548/image.png?ex=681518b0&is=6813c730&hm=8f396d05beef0fcd03e6126da074b1857da5062d5f77b371831c7ffb9718758b& [22-Aug-24 02:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276257291502620733/image.png?ex=681518ba&is=6813c73a&hm=7821ea1c22af9384c369e10b7cb4143c9683262480403785ee4f6fea505780fe& [22-Aug-24 02:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 sorry ๐Ÿ˜… I had to [22-Aug-24 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh thanks haha [22-Aug-24 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 I will totally fix those [22-Aug-24 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 no spell checker in my hugo page editor [22-Aug-24 02:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 every time I do text when coding I first type it in google docs and just copy over [22-Aug-24 02:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeaaaaah there's a bunch of markup in it. I probably should figure something out though [22-Aug-24 02:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh yeah I found a couple other typos [22-Aug-24 02:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's the ones I saw and were bugging me [22-Aug-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 damn, it's auction's day or something? I am too poor to buy cheap ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Aug-24 03:24 PM] akyantor#0000 I haven't sold anything for ages. ๐Ÿ˜› [22-Aug-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 It's like costco You save a lot on bulk but don't have money to buy in bulk ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [22-Aug-24 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Happy birthday @allocater 1000 days from founding! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (8) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [22-Aug-24 04:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-22_16-22-28.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-22_16-22-28.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PtwxYiiSMA1pFJGMU-HIMJCqErhN8x-TFOrAYWZiAYs/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-22_16-22-28.png [22-Aug-24 04:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 You can bid for small amounts ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Aug-24 04:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 My OCD not gonna let my brake uneven distribution between people ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Aug-24 04:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 Tell me which ones you want to bid on and Iโ€™ll do the same so itโ€™s even ๐Ÿ˜ [22-Aug-24 04:56 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am joking It's fine ๐Ÿ˜… I just need C which I would get planty of [22-Aug-24 04:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 C is like #1 input for me for now [22-Aug-24 04:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 lowering helps a lot [22-Aug-24 04:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 I don't mind if I buy at CX other stuff [22-Aug-24 05:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 I use 63 C per day ๐Ÿ™ƒ [22-Aug-24 05:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 If you want more C let me know - I got lucky on an auction a while ago and now I have over 2k, but I use maybe 120 per week [22-Aug-24 05:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 If I am gonna be short and there was no auction I will keep that in mind Thank you ๐Ÿ™ โค๏ธ [22-Aug-24 11:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Doing an openGraph test... if it works discord should have a preview: [22-Aug-24 11:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/starting-in-antares/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/starting-in-antares/ Getting started in Antares | OOG Capital Management There are many ways to get started in Prosperous Universe that are better than a farming start on Promitor. [22-Aug-24 11:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 aww there's supposed to be a picture [23-Aug-24 03:06 AM] allocater#0000 thanks, crazy that's almost 3 years! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [23-Aug-24 07:53 AM] zipatsu#0000 There's a good chance the price of H2O will rise in the near future as people have been stocking up on way too much of it lately leading to me selling roughly 50~70k per day on ANT online for the past 1 - 2 weeks or so which is starting to become impossible to sustain even with my ships running at max speed constantly. In contrast, my 100k CX buy orders take about 2 weeks to reach 50% fulfilment if not less so it's mainly my own H2O being sold with some of my LM orders on ISA/EW/Boucher getting picked up every now and then. It's possible that trying to supply 3 CX's at the same time may have been slightly overambitious ๐Ÿ˜… but it's been (and is) fun to do. I'll continue trying to keep it stable hoping that the demand will slow down a bit soon, giving me some time to build up reserves, but with the way it's been trending I wanted to give everyone here a heads up just in caseโœŒ๏ธ [23-Aug-24 08:21 AM] sidepipe#0000 Makes sense! I wonder if people have been buying it up to make DW [23-Aug-24 08:36 AM] archielvahr#0000 I could do a 2k/2k shipping order if you need shipping help, I imagine others in the corp could too [23-Aug-24 08:57 AM] zipatsu#0000 That's definitely a possibility with the rising prices of DW ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Aug-24 09:04 AM] zipatsu#0000 Appreciate it and will keep it in mind but it's more that most of it evaporates within a day of the ships landing on the CX, I am getting close to being able to afford another full H2O base (if the huge order somehow gets filled through corp prices ๐Ÿซฃ) which would help a little once it's fully setup but the main ''issue'' would still be the demand being higher than all my ANT focus rigs can supply ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Aug-24 09:08 AM] zipatsu#0000 Have been considering dropping support for Benten as I only have one base in the OY region that ships it to ARC and then kinda relies on random players hauling it from ARC to BEN, I could instead try to get that to move to ANT instead but that would currently cause BEN to run out of H2O on the CX which would be a shame [23-Aug-24 09:12 AM] zipatsu#0000 It's challenging to keep things supplied but it does keep me logging in to the game several times a day ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276544619156475927/Screenshot_2024-08-23_155718.png?ex=6814d2d2&is=68138152&hm=867db50cbf5350a1bffbd37e8ecefc4bf82f865265c6cbb3a811127f1630f340& [23-Aug-24 09:18 AM] sidepipe#0000 Which huge order were you waiting on for the upgrade? [23-Aug-24 09:19 AM] sidepipe#0000 I was scrolling through the channels but I couldnโ€™t find anything ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Aug-24 09:21 AM] sidepipe#0000 I do also have 30k water I can bring to the CX, but I imagine thatโ€™s still a drop in the bucket (pun entirely intended) [23-Aug-24 09:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have 20k coming that I'll list on the CX at 31. I see some other corp members have some stored in the CX too. [23-Aug-24 09:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's fun to kinda set the price ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [23-Aug-24 09:27 AM] akyantor#0000 I'm definitely a buyer of H2O. I dropped most of my inhouse production alongside my FRMs to maximise output [23-Aug-24 09:35 AM] sidepipe#0000 I haven't dropped my production, but I've definitely gotten lazy on shipping since it can be had at a fair price at the CX ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Aug-24 09:53 AM] zipatsu#0000 At this point any amount helps really ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Aug-24 09:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 Yeah I've got well over 100k sitting at 35 [23-Aug-24 09:55 AM] zipatsu#0000 + however much it'll cost for the planetary stuff. Should be pretty close to being able to afford it all at once โœŒ๏ธ It'll be a fairly big order though, don't even think there's that much ABH on the CX lol {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276555398563762277/image.png?ex=6814dcdc&is=68138b5c&hm=2d6188be2ac3b84ee2474ddab44cc9efb4c5b92a7650d9235732d76ecaf0151a& [23-Aug-24 09:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 Can let it fall back to there while you recoup if you want ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [23-Aug-24 02:10 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i think i'll increase my H2O production on ISA again. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) โœŒ๏ธ [23-Aug-24 02:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 Would you like me to start sending you daily contracts now for PSLs and PSMs? it's not much but it will add up until I expand (PSL 2.14/d, PSM 4.28/d) [23-Aug-24 02:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Weekly is fine ๐Ÿ˜Š and I can pay in advance too if you need [23-Aug-24 02:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 Alright I will start tomorrow ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Aug-24 02:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 At what price ? [23-Aug-24 02:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 I donโ€™t know what would be a โ€˜fairโ€™ price [23-Aug-24 02:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 I get PG from CX [23-Aug-24 02:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276631900034695330/image.png?ex=6815241b&is=6813d29b&hm=128c8cb2e85fa46b5148821db8129874f6c1322089e7d5a6fb1d4a3a0b741458& [23-Aug-24 02:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 does it sound fair? [23-Aug-24 03:09 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I can sell 100 PSL and 100 PSM for a starting buffer [23-Aug-24 03:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 Every time I try to calculate prices for internal offers I get anxiety ๐Ÿฅฒ Like I want to make money sell goods that worth time making and I don't want to be greedy as well ๐Ÿ™ƒ [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 If I take prices from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s Ooga Booga Corporate Production https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yhpfqL2G430HviKTYqtgaaCYfY6Pco0j99W6DGGLN7I/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyLXvH8epiXlCDPgNofc8If7Pt1IkawH9QIhPd6K0s187bKJHUXohNgWQ7wJPE8nFyzhM0SHWzNQqZDi4fFnjRafYch7DlwlAEMHF85E9yGT04DEswpz%3Dw1200-h630-p [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's pretty scary [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1276637903619096688/image.png?ex=681529b3&is=6813d833&hm=4c8d8c5abbdf4f9083b8dbd41790c362f06dd69d8c073a3064b12d47559ce991& [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] akyantor#0000 You dont' have to match other folks [23-Aug-24 03:23 PM] akyantor#0000 They're probably prices for folks with the whole supply chain [23-Aug-24 03:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 so they just get PG for waaaaay less then it worth basically wasting their permit for availability [23-Aug-24 03:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 command economy never works [23-Aug-24 03:56 PM] .zogii#0000 Hi, I am writing to request to be removed from the corporation. I havenโ€™t been logging in much for quite some time now. Thank you to everyone for the knowledge and enthusiasm you have for the game. I hope to run into you again in the future. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [23-Aug-24 04:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Aww, thanks for letting us know @.zogii ! Thanks for hanging out with us! For the in-game invite, you gotta press the Leave button in the `CORP` buffer. If you have any assets you wanna pass forward, let me know. Then in a bit I'll mark you retired, so maybe after a few updates we can have you back ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Aug-24 05:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Well itโ€™s not exactly a command economy [23-Aug-24 05:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Itโ€™s vertical integration [23-Aug-24 05:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Which has worked in America [23-Aug-24 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also a lot of the prices on that sheet are > 1 year old [23-Aug-24 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mine are pobably mostly 2 years old ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [23-Aug-24 05:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 RATs used to be 65 on the CX and 50 in corp [23-Aug-24 05:48 PM] zipatsu#0000 I think my H2O's still priced at 20/u on there which currently would only be possible if you're willing to make the 5~6 day round trip to ARC and back ๐Ÿ˜‚ [23-Aug-24 05:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I have no prices in thereโ€ฆ. So maybe I should addโ€ฆ [23-Aug-24 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think people use it a lot less now that we have auctions ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Aug-24 05:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh true [23-Aug-24 06:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 it worked because they weren't limited by space (permits) [23-Aug-24 06:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sorry for side track ๐Ÿ˜… Does that price looks fine to you? We can lower it if I get PG from other sources other then CX [23-Aug-24 06:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah the price is fine for me. Is it fine for you? Making enough money? [23-Aug-24 06:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 Bruh Why do you have to say it like that ๐Ÿฅฒ [23-Aug-24 06:17 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Donโ€™t want you to bleed out [23-Aug-24 06:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 ahm [23-Aug-24 06:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am sorry [23-Aug-24 06:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Like if arenโ€™t staying afloat then that isnโ€™t helpful [23-Aug-24 06:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I really just need a consistent supply [23-Aug-24 06:29 PM] marat_sh#0000 I think there is slight misunderstanding somewhere... I am so used to people being passive aggressive from all the shooter games I play and maybe it's my lack of knowledge of English, but in my head it sounds like you are not happy I am sorry ๐Ÿฅฒ [23-Aug-24 06:29 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh lol nope [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 That prices is fine no sarcasm [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I remember the early days of playing this game [23-Aug-24 06:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Donโ€™t want to use and abuse yk [23-Aug-24 06:31 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I do have money I can spend when compared to you so paying more than other people offer in the corp is just fine [23-Aug-24 06:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sorry man ๐Ÿ˜… So my reasoning for that price: Lower then current ASK on CX + Margin is around the same I am making right now from other products [23-Aug-24 06:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will send you some PSMs tomorrow [23-Aug-24 06:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 and starting production of PSLs today [23-Aug-24 06:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 We can work on getting the price lower later if that makes you feel better [23-Aug-24 06:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah sometimes new players are too quick to put their products on discount, when we want them to be making enough to grow [23-Aug-24 06:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 especially like when I joined.. 850 days ago. Those discount bfabs I bought were a huuuuge boon... I think at the time they were basically at cost. but if I made stuff at that price, I'd never get a third base [23-Aug-24 06:55 PM] marat_sh#0000 It's not about feeling better it's just hard to see what is fair since PSM and PSL is not traded daily so it's hard for me to judge what is a good price for item [23-Aug-24 06:56 PM] marat_sh#0000 like I want it to be sold and I don't want to rip you off [23-Aug-24 07:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've been leaning a bit more on the Cost of Goods calcs lately: [23-Aug-24 07:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-23-01.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-23-01.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/00fQw4BARFpcAM7vriwSE28SxcrI645qT99S5T6KAko/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-23-01.png [23-Aug-24 07:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Different things have vastly different ratios of degradation cost vs. workforce cost vs. material cost [23-Aug-24 07:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 is it in the prunplaner? [23-Aug-24 07:28 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah [23-Aug-24 07:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah this blue button: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-30-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-30-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_2VWakNU9FAnHmGETYsqCP_ak8mQN5_Hk_hT7paKMdQ/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-08-23_19-30-11.png [23-Aug-24 07:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 It will tell you how much things cost to make [23-Aug-24 07:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-1XgJOgK7WBvcyBAGo8BcX-nxN3wlBosWa0mz9VWKcE/https/media.tenor.com/hixSWGnlmQ8AAAAe/wow.png [23-Aug-24 07:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 I was using calc and excel [23-Aug-24 08:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, now you can check your work ๐Ÿ˜ [23-Aug-24 08:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 I wasn't counting degradation ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Aug-24 08:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I made the same mistake when I started and was doing the calculations in excel [23-Aug-24 09:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have a spreadsheet that does the same thing ignoring CX prices and instead chaining together the costs [23-Aug-24 09:21 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think that's the primary fault with prunplanner's cost calc, it's basically useless for determining costs on niche products [23-Aug-24 09:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 I was looking into SCA's items [23-Aug-24 09:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 like SEN [23-Aug-24 09:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 sounds like a usefull item [23-Aug-24 09:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 but CX data is useless [24-Aug-24 09:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 I think I am slowly lowering the price for REPs on CX ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Aug-24 09:27 AM] akyantor#0000 Just as well there's a MM for RAT... we're heading towards the 166/u point. ๐Ÿ“ˆ [24-Aug-24 09:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe I should start selling mine on the CX ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Aug-24 09:37 AM] akyantor#0000 In all seriousness. You'd be making a pile if you were. :S [24-Aug-24 09:38 AM] akyantor#0000 I do wonder if there's been an influx of new folks recently that's caused the increase... [24-Aug-24 09:38 AM] akyantor#0000 I've noticed the number of "active" players is almost back to when I first started, over 300 players. Except now the white screen bug regularly kicks people off... makes me wonder if there are more actively players than before. [24-Aug-24 09:39 AM] akyantor#0000 It's a great time to have a RAT farmer start as a player... ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Aug-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 Was fuel also that high? [24-Aug-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 โ€˜Highโ€™ [24-Aug-24 09:40 AM] katinga#0000 fuel was around 11/u when I started [24-Aug-24 09:40 AM] katinga#0000 11 for FF and SF was slightly less [24-Aug-24 09:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 Damn Nestle companies [24-Aug-24 09:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™d bet thereโ€™s a lot of mid size companies now - folks that started around Christmas and have several bases, but might not make their own RAT or fuel {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Aug-24 09:56 AM] katinga#0000 do we have anyone in the corp that makes STR? [24-Aug-24 10:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 Not many people make or use STR. Generally I find that if you need to fill STRs, you should upgrade the INF instead and use the other mats {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [24-Aug-24 10:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 I can make you some STR [24-Aug-24 10:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 It would be at 2100/u [24-Aug-24 10:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 let me know if it's worth for you [24-Aug-24 10:57 AM] marat_sh#0000 consumption is pretty big so I assume it's better to just upgrade and fullfill cheaper goods [24-Aug-24 10:57 AM] marat_sh#0000 but if it's short term you might want to calculate if it's worth it [24-Aug-24 11:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 OFF would be like $6400 per day and STR $16800 per day (lvl 8 inf) [24-Aug-24 11:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 long term STR not worth it [24-Aug-24 11:35 AM] katinga#0000 I'd be one of those mid sized companies [24-Aug-24 11:40 AM] akyantor#0000 ditto to be fair, though I started a bit more recently than christmas [24-Aug-24 11:41 AM] katinga#0000 are you a regular ditto or a shiny ditto? [24-Aug-24 11:41 AM] katinga#0000 I was very slow growth when I started. [24-Aug-24 07:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277066510845874261/image.png?ex=6814be9e&is=68136d1e&hm=5096ed69ed94045aeea3d2da86d8869ca441327fe7155fc28faced75fcb921ed& [24-Aug-24 07:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 is it fast for 38 days company? [24-Aug-24 07:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 First bump is Archiel's 750k meth injection [24-Aug-24 07:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 For 0 loans Iโ€™d say thatโ€™s pretty good! Thatโ€™s probably faster than me ๐Ÿ˜ [24-Aug-24 07:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 Of course, the free money was only 250k back then. Kids these days have it so easy ๐Ÿ˜› [24-Aug-24 07:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 plus margins are pretty good too [24-Aug-24 07:53 PM] marat_sh#0000 most stuff ROI < 15d [24-Aug-24 07:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, but you picked stuff with good margins ๐Ÿ™‚ [24-Aug-24 07:58 PM] marat_sh#0000 My fought process was that new players wouldnโ€™t probably go manufacturing since they are new and donโ€™t wont complicated stuff and would probably go farming or smelting that are pretty straightforward [24-Aug-24 07:58 PM] marat_sh#0000 So there would be money to make [24-Aug-24 07:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, I chose farming starting out because it was pretty straightforward. So I think you might be on to something ๐Ÿ˜ [24-Aug-24 08:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, you would be in the middle of production chain [24-Aug-24 08:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 Without knowing what the market is, itโ€™s easier to go farming, resource extr or smelting [24-Aug-24 08:01 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 its been a wild ride for me... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277070406477680671/image.png?ex=6814c23f&is=681370bf&hm=fa9503108a72937811cb57e2a9310b631b9961f76e39cad6a292b74798d9c8b5& [24-Aug-24 08:02 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i think you ae better off @marat_sh [24-Aug-24 08:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 what a comeback ๐ŸŽ‰ [24-Aug-24 08:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 None of the loans vs. all of the loans? ๐Ÿ˜„ [24-Aug-24 08:25 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 (its bugged but it still makes me smile {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277076277362294854/image.png?ex=6814c7b7&is=68137637&hm=16ba9c0d60974e7200e0da80aeadbe4b07b7315318605c957ad2a10a2c11ada6& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [24-Aug-24 08:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 I can't decide if that's line go up or line go down ๐Ÿ˜„ [24-Aug-24 08:41 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Ships and HQ are considered losses it seems [24-Aug-24 08:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah [24-Aug-24 08:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 And I guess the loans are counting against you in the chart, heh [25-Aug-24 12:53 PM] marat_sh#0000 @archielvahr i am lowering my pe production until you need more (itโ€™s 10000/d now) [25-Aug-24 12:58 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have 50k in stock so let me know if you need it [25-Aug-24 01:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 No worries, I'm sure I can manage. If no one else buys it, feel free to send it to me whenever you feel like it ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Aug-24 01:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will keep it until Wednesday auction. There is still 20k listed there [25-Aug-24 03:52 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 has anybody traded with Good Food Company yet? the player krisjanis.liepins often fails to deliver the goods on time. this is the third contract this has happend. does blocking a player prevent him from picking up your contracts? [25-Aug-24 03:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I blocked him a while ago - Iโ€™ve heard he was a pirate or at least unreliable [25-Aug-24 03:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 Blocking will prevent him from taking your contracts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [25-Aug-24 03:55 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 he's highly unreliable. i'll block him after he delivers the goods. [25-Aug-24 03:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Wouldn't hurt to report screenshots of the breached contrats in the pirate channel: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/967041882217660456 [25-Aug-24 03:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 oh I have them blocked it seems also [25-Aug-24 04:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 i would have reported them, but I never actually had any contracts with them. just heard it through the grapevine ages ago [25-Aug-24 04:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 that's also why I didn't really tell anyone else ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Aug-24 04:18 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 no contracts have been breached so far. i've always extended them. the last time it took him one whole week to fulfill the delivery. -.- {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [25-Aug-24 05:06 PM] katinga#0000 I have not. where are they based? [25-Aug-24 05:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 Then donโ€™t ๐Ÿ˜„ [25-Aug-24 05:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think theyโ€™ve got a base on harmonia for sure, Iโ€™ve seen them in COM there quite a few times [25-Aug-24 05:20 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 his only base is on harmonia. [25-Aug-24 05:27 PM] katinga#0000 found them. blocked. not a new player either 251 days {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [25-Aug-24 11:38 PM] hernanduer#0000 the only guy on mine is m3sterd3mon from 349 days ago lol [25-Aug-24 11:49 PM] xtc69#0000 What has everyone been up to just to get a understanding of thr space world what's what who got what and so on [26-Aug-24 12:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 Manufacturing on Heph [26-Aug-24 12:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 17 BMPs 2 PPF [26-Aug-24 12:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 making PE / REP / MCG / EXO [26-Aug-24 12:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 PSMs and PSLs [26-Aug-24 01:47 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I need more H [26-Aug-24 01:50 AM] melon164#0000 How are we _still_ getting corp dividends? [26-Aug-24 01:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 probably something like queue of 20 longest recipes x 20 order size x degraded building efficiency. I would assume this queue to last on the order of years [26-Aug-24 09:13 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/agua-water-viralhog-throw-out-useless-endeavor-gif-17857990 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/agua-water-viralhog-throw-out-useless-endeavor-gif-17857990 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mZWtTa1dZS67aJob7JTgQqo_KNXXDYIecgTH4tZOzwU/https/media.tenor.com/QiuyjR1d5iQAAAAe/agua-water.png [26-Aug-24 09:13 AM] zipatsu#0000 Am pumping up all the H2O everywhere and moving it around to keep the CX flowing โœŒ๏ธ [26-Aug-24 09:20 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Taking loans and giving loans. My game is just loans of all sort I must say [26-Aug-24 10:12 AM] akyantor#0000 I started out making C, moved into plastics (PE, PG, EPO), then rolled into bfab (BBH, BDE, BSE, BTA) & lfab (LBH, LDE, LSE, LTA) production. I'm now trying my hand at ship building creating a production pipeline to make AWH (ship shields, which recently received a buff so may be viable now), still got a bit of work to do before that's up and running. [26-Aug-24 10:28 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey everybody! How is going? So I opened 3 base in ANT space (4 total with Prom base). It is situated on Aceland, specialized on construction. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐ŸŽ‰ [26-Aug-24 10:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Woo awesome ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โค๏ธ [26-Aug-24 11:00 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Is it ok, that for now I could not offer a lot goods on lower prices to corp members? The process of relocation is extremely difficult๐Ÿ™ˆ [26-Aug-24 11:01 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s not at all expected that folks offer goods via internal prices, particularly newer players. [26-Aug-24 11:01 AM] akyantor#0000 More useful to build yourself up [26-Aug-24 11:09 AM] marat_sh#0000 it's more so if you overproduced stuff and you need to dump items to get cash instead of waiting sell orders on CX [26-Aug-24 11:10 AM] akyantor#0000 I started doing it once Iโ€™d found my feet, and had enough production that offering a discount didnโ€™t overly impact my ability to further expand. [26-Aug-24 11:14 AM] xtc69#0000 what i was going to do next is starting C and plastics guessing that is good for profit making ? [26-Aug-24 11:15 AM] marat_sh#0000 PE / PG / EPO always sells {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [26-Aug-24 11:15 AM] akyantor#0000 C after FRM is a good route. Opens options to either go onto metallurgy or chemistry, both have good money making options [26-Aug-24 11:15 AM] marat_sh#0000 if you want you can just focus on C since a lot of people here use it [26-Aug-24 11:16 AM] akyantor#0000 Also a strong option. C price has stayed very strong [26-Aug-24 11:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 with more people joining even more C will be used [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] marat_sh#0000 + you can free up some permits for people her who produce C for themselves [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have some starter bases here, that are sort of intended as your first base options: https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/starting-in-antares/ [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] xtc69#0000 anyone have a good C base just wondering if i can afford on [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] xtc69#0000 one* [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think I'd like to make an article when I have time about "your second and third base in ANT" [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 Nascent is a popular choice for INC [26-Aug-24 11:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 That Nascent base design costs $800k {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Aug-24 11:18 AM] marat_sh#0000 I would say Nascent is the only option for C so far [26-Aug-24 11:18 AM] xtc69#0000 do we have base designs on discord ? [26-Aug-24 11:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 mostly there's screenshots on the webpage there or you can make them in prunplanner [26-Aug-24 11:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 You miiiight want a agricultural base before doing and incinerator/carbon base. But either way works. [26-Aug-24 11:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 Another option is some good metalurgy designs. If you want to do something more interesting, I know I'd buy a lot of ASM products. So that's a metallurgy base that mixes SMEs and ASMs. And that's something you could ramp up into, like starting with just 2 ASMs and 6 SMEs for example [26-Aug-24 11:24 AM] xtc69#0000 would it be possible to add the website to the top of general ? [26-Aug-24 11:24 AM] xtc69#0000 one of my other games i play {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277665005952700476/image.png?ex=6814f1c3&is=6813a043&hm=19d932475720aa502fd06a6cc99ddbbd230f18ea2288cbbb24051c19cb7f5f90& [26-Aug-24 11:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 Good idea, I figured it out ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Aug-24 11:25 AM] xtc69#0000 nm [26-Aug-24 11:25 AM] xtc69#0000 haha i am big with discord shit lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜Ž [26-Aug-24 11:25 AM] xtc69#0000 my own discord for gaming tips and real life shit lol [26-Aug-24 11:26 AM] xtc69#0000 some good profits ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277665594203705344/image.png?ex=6814f24f&is=6813a0cf&hm=03fa435d50541a768b2340edc93786fc7db0cc2a89075137d22f7c9c370ec116& [26-Aug-24 11:27 AM] xtc69#0000 so full upgrade is 800k total ? or start is 800k [26-Aug-24 11:29 AM] marat_sh#0000 ^ this is good but with 22k per day you will quickly drain the demand and lower the profitability of PE [26-Aug-24 11:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am pretty sure that would make you in top 5 PE producers in the galaxy [26-Aug-24 11:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 So donโ€™t hold all of your eggs in one basket [26-Aug-24 11:32 AM] akyantor#0000 top 3 at least. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277667047031181405/image.png?ex=6814f3a9&is=6813a229&hm=8216a6f3af774f2734c5d8b810c44ec49ab7f3505113aae303060a7ddd1157ee& [26-Aug-24 11:33 AM] akyantor#0000 A good tip is to use the LEAD command combined with the CX order book to figure out if there will be enough demand for your supply. [26-Aug-24 11:40 AM] xtc69#0000 when looking at score what is that base off ? [26-Aug-24 11:41 AM] akyantor#0000 That's the number of units produced in 7 days by that user [26-Aug-24 11:41 AM] xtc69#0000 so C would be better then right ? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1277669206921580567/image.png?ex=6814f5ac&is=6813a42c&hm=406887f60458753deac51c84a71291b2c405a2ed72ce02cb5b27ee095ca018a8& [26-Aug-24 11:54 AM] akyantor#0000 I'd personally start with C, just as it has a wider range of uses than PE. You're never going to have a problem selling it, and it gives you a broader range of options to branch out as it's used in a wider variety of production lines. [26-Aug-24 01:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 @archielvahr do you want to make a post on what planets to settle first instead of what COGC they are using. Like aiming at tripple green planet first then low temp planets then low pressure and etc. as well as distance to cx isnโ€™t that big of a deal if itโ€™s less then 5 jumps [26-Aug-24 01:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 There is dude asked for AGP grand for Bober because it was close to CX [26-Aug-24 01:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 Maybe it would be useful for people to know what planets are good and what are bad [26-Aug-24 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah totally, that's a good idea. If anyone has a list, I can turn it into an article hopefully sometime this week [26-Aug-24 05:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 noone in ADI mines MAG? [27-Aug-24 09:28 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! Where MTC is used? [27-Aug-24 09:57 AM] melon164#0000 Shoelaces for Molp's pet snake ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [27-Aug-24 10:14 AM] archielvahr#0000 Hehe yeah unused item! Just like JUI [27-Aug-24 10:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 everyone is dumping their PE surpluses on CX ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 10:35 AM] akyantor#0000 Always good to diversify. ๐Ÿ˜› [27-Aug-24 10:35 AM] akyantor#0000 There's still pretty strong demand above the 9/u level mind. [27-Aug-24 10:42 AM] marat_sh#0000 @akyantor you have not filled 20k PE auction, do you want to relist it? [27-Aug-24 10:42 AM] akyantor#0000 I think I just threw it at the buy orders in the end. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [27-Aug-24 10:42 AM] akyantor#0000 Needed the cash for expansion. [27-Aug-24 10:43 AM] marat_sh#0000 Just letting you know ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 10:43 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™ll mark it finished [27-Aug-24 10:43 AM] akyantor#0000 Expanding is an expensive business. Flying through the cash almost as quickly as it comes in. ๐Ÿ˜‰ [27-Aug-24 10:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am pumping MCG while itโ€™s hot ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 10:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 Fills instantly [27-Aug-24 10:45 AM] akyantor#0000 There must be massive continuous demand for MCG [27-Aug-24 10:45 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™m defraying at least some of my expansion costs by making my own bfabs and lfabs. But not quickly enough, so still have to dip into the market a bit. [27-Aug-24 10:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 we love some bfabs and lfabs [27-Aug-24 10:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 everyone needs them [27-Aug-24 10:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 + MM is moved upward so more $$$ [27-Aug-24 10:51 AM] akyantor#0000 I was actually thinking of dropping the bfabsโ€ฆ but may have to reconsider with the new MM position. [27-Aug-24 10:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 For how much can I get 5 HSE ? ๐Ÿ˜‡ [27-Aug-24 11:09 AM] sidepipe#0000 Free if you send me a contract ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Aug-24 11:10 AM] sidepipe#0000 I also have a reasonable supply of B and L fabs if you wanna send me a list - Iโ€™ve been putting them on the CX occasionally, but Iโ€™d prefer to sell them in the corp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Aug-24 11:10 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am planing to relocate my BMPs on romulan a It will take a bit since I don't have cash to transfer all of them there [27-Aug-24 11:11 AM] marat_sh#0000 I also Need to count how much I am gonna get back from reclaiming them [27-Aug-24 11:11 AM] marat_sh#0000 Freeing up some space for PPFs and WLPs [27-Aug-24 11:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 so it's not gonna be in one go ๐Ÿ˜… So don't wait on me I can wait for items though I am not in the rush [27-Aug-24 11:15 AM] sidepipe#0000 Fabs arenโ€™t really a huge money maker for me, so I donโ€™t mind stocking up on them [27-Aug-24 11:15 AM] sidepipe#0000 I really just use them for my own repairs [27-Aug-24 11:15 AM] sidepipe#0000 And hoard BSE whenever Zipatsu auctions them ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [27-Aug-24 11:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/blr7aHW2seTYZrRoa6DQpjTZhSrJZHg2s0RJv-btz7E/https/media.tenor.com/hNRxKSc00qgAAAAe/impress-based.png [27-Aug-24 11:16 AM] hernanduer#0000 I use enough BSE that his auctions are never enough ๐Ÿ˜ข [27-Aug-24 11:26 AM] max.kalina#0000 Hi everyone! How are you? [27-Aug-24 11:28 AM] max.kalina#0000 I have decided to relocate my Chemistry base from Griffonstone to Bober. I spend a lot of fuels and most important - time, to fly to Griffonstone and back {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Aug-24 11:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 How often are you sending ships? Ideally it's no more than once a week [27-Aug-24 11:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 at that rate, the increased repair costs will pretty quickly overcome the extra fuel use [27-Aug-24 11:49 AM] melon164#0000 The big problem with Bober, is people saying f***ing โ€œBoberโ€ in the chat all the time ๐Ÿ˜ก [27-Aug-24 11:54 AM] max.kalina#0000 Why? [27-Aug-24 11:55 AM] max.kalina#0000 For now once per 2 days, because I am moving a lot of stuff there to finish the base and moving goods back I need on other planets [27-Aug-24 11:55 AM] max.kalina#0000 Even I spent a lot of fuel, the time for trip is too long [27-Aug-24 11:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 the guy who named it named it after himself, which is just peak ego {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (2) [27-Aug-24 11:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 are you still running 500/500 ships? [27-Aug-24 11:58 AM] max.kalina#0000 one base ship and one with 2000/2000 [27-Aug-24 12:00 PM] hernanduer#0000 hmmm I'm curious how you need so many trips then [27-Aug-24 12:01 PM] max.kalina#0000 Big ship is slow, also cargo is heavy, I have to relocate a lot of things from Avalon [27-Aug-24 12:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh I was wrong, I swore Boberman named it. Looks like it was just someone naming it after him, so it's just a bad name [27-Aug-24 12:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 like Elon [27-Aug-24 12:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 Bober is a cool name... it's just Polish themed instead of Greek [27-Aug-24 12:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHpYXQyQO4 {Embed} Drak Bรณbr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHpYXQyQO4 Bรณbr kurwa https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qzYpzPlEwKWxDv6oYj2I5_1zN2c6gqA0BnRWDKcx_LY/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/OHHpYXQyQO4/maxresdefault.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [27-Aug-24 12:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 depending on the structures, but you'll need to spend at least 25k for TSH for each structure, every 90 days or so. I don't think the math works out vs fuel spend [27-Aug-24 12:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 especially once you've finished migrating from Avalon [27-Aug-24 12:08 PM] max.kalina#0000 My preference in game is always speed, maybe later, when I will have more ships, I could afford send them on slowest speed with less fuel spending, but now "time is money"๐Ÿ˜‡ [27-Aug-24 12:08 PM] max.kalina#0000 It is a good suggestion, will calculate everything once more๐Ÿ‘ [27-Aug-24 12:10 PM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿซ  {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278039021188284516/image.png?ex=6814fc97&is=6813ab17&hm=06cf90e185ef2ec78a2ed211dd7b0de010e0dc6e7f883f5f4d01db2ab52e4595& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฎ [27-Aug-24 12:11 PM] max.kalina#0000 Kurwa means bitch on Polish, they used this word as a main swear word for everything๐Ÿ˜† [27-Aug-24 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 rough calculation, with 17 CHPs, it's about 5k more [27-Aug-24 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 per day [27-Aug-24 12:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 if you're repairing at 90 days, which is recommended [27-Aug-24 12:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 I speak russian and we use ะฑะปัั‚ัŒ the same way they use kurwa ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 12:13 PM] max.kalina#0000 @marat_sh OMG, Timur and I speaks Russian too๐Ÿ˜† [27-Aug-24 12:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 I had a feeling ๐Ÿ˜… Just don't want to use 'foreign' language in this chat [27-Aug-24 12:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am from Uzbekistan and live in Florida for 8 years already {Reactions} โค๏ธ [27-Aug-24 12:15 PM] max.kalina#0000 Sure, it is good manner [27-Aug-24 12:15 PM] max.kalina#0000 You will not belive I was working in Tashkent for 3 years๐Ÿ‘‹ and now we relocated to Bishkek [27-Aug-24 12:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am a US citizen and not planning to go back there lol ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 12:18 PM] max.kalina#0000 I am Russian Federation citizen, left it 16 years ago and also not planning to come back to Russia๐Ÿ˜Ž [27-Aug-24 12:19 PM] max.kalina#0000 Sorry guys for this private conversation๐Ÿ™ [27-Aug-24 12:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 Anything goes in general imo ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Aug-24 12:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 Chatting is half the point of joining a corp in the first place ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [27-Aug-24 12:23 PM] hernanduer#0000 I watched videos of Bishkek, it looks beautiful out there [27-Aug-24 12:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 when everything takes days to finish What else are you supposed to do? ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Aug-24 02:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278079981209255956/Bober.mp4?ex=681522bd&is=6813d13d&hm=61222fef05a2cecbd173ddadb859021115922ac132d35a7248380eb1fc8806c4& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) ๐Ÿ˜‚ [27-Aug-24 02:56 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-415211565083999567 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-415211565083999567 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/KV7PLRPE2DcxGsaZJ96S_MuFbN1gB00UdnVSMtn4KOA/https/media.tenor.com/BcMgt_N3PU8AAAAe/gojo-absolute-cinema.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-24 11:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone done a sheet on cumulative "base area-day" profits? [28-Aug-24 11:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 How much AIC you can profit making a product per base-area per day [28-Aug-24 11:43 AM] hernanduer#0000 with recursive inclusion of input BAd (base area-day) needs [28-Aug-24 11:43 AM] hernanduer#0000 I might make a sheet for that if not, I'm curious what market maker gets you the most [28-Aug-24 11:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 I haven't seen a lot of data or discussion on BAd profit calculations, most people look at time or total profits, but I think with the more advanced players it's THE factor to consider [28-Aug-24 11:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have been working on it again, actually [28-Aug-24 11:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 one tip is to work in the area of the production building plus the area of the habitations for the workers [28-Aug-24 12:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you want to mess with what I have: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQio-Ou2znYif25GijFgRz9XSCVPSM8YGqcsMZu6EoQ/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQio-Ou2znYif25GijFgRz9XSCVPSM8YGqcsMZu6EoQ/edit?usp=sharing Archiel Price Calc https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-Z33JvjvDVM3Sr3brWHVBwWLnrBbQ7F4XK1_R6KuT_w/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyKoZZbN3IoPx5tZJOwyAKeR6sFdJh5qMXPAY3BzvROT_PEiN0htHg64McrPHTtq5F3Tdmxeq9p7JLYU9SeaQYgVsuPfbb3_C6EgG2CUD2zjDknUSpw%3Dw1200-h630-p [28-Aug-24 12:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think there are still mistakes in there though, but the idea is AIC / unit area / day [28-Aug-24 12:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 It assumes 100% efficiency, which will need tweaking, otherwise it'll skew stuff. [28-Aug-24 12:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 But it comes up with IDC => 762.7 AIC / area / day. Multiply that by 500, you get 381,350 per day [28-Aug-24 12:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 might be good to add the recursion up the mat tree [28-Aug-24 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 5700 for AFR just doesn't seem right [28-Aug-24 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Aug-24 12:08 PM] hernanduer#0000 but definitely a good looking start [28-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 probably needs to be a mix of formulas that expand each recipe into its parts and then lookup those parts, and then expand those [28-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 not sure how to do that with sheets off the top of my head though... [28-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 except like 10 or 15 columns with each checking the previous column for mats [28-Aug-24 12:13 PM] hernanduer#0000 gonna be messy looking [28-Aug-24 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah the multidimensional aspect is pretty awkward. You can see it on the Prod Prices Calc sheet. [28-Aug-24 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 it needs to check each input material, sum the price for those materials, and the area used to make those, times the quantity [28-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I have this tool to do a single level of "drilldown" [28-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_imON94G6dw.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_imON94G6dw.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_pUnRZWK-8GklEghkhxJGvQ7d2CFtkf-jjOAUV7DGc0/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_imON94G6dw.png [28-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 So each CC takes that quantity of things, and how much each part of it adds up to, and often those numbers don't really add up [28-Aug-24 12:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 because at which point do you use the CX price, and at what point do you use your "production price" [28-Aug-24 12:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 if you run everything off the production price, you end up with 1/100th the CX price for some things [28-Aug-24 12:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 so I'm trying to find a way that works [28-Aug-24 12:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think running on production price makes sense for determining price floors and also, since we're looking at base area-days now, you can compare that to IDC to determine if IDC is _really_ the best MM price [28-Aug-24 12:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 BAd are a bit cleaner to compare across products I think [28-Aug-24 12:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 like you don't have to compound "staging profit", saying oh yeah this base exists so I need 30% of the profit on that product [28-Aug-24 12:22 PM] hernanduer#0000 you can just take the whole BAd and multiply it by some profit percent and that will trickle down to all levels of the feeder mats [28-Aug-24 12:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 What would be really interesting to me (and probably also quite difficult) would be accounting for how much of your production you use in the chain of bases vs how much you sell on the CX - figure out your COGM on everything based on what you buy as inputs, and evaluate the whole chain in total in base area / day [28-Aug-24 12:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 Which is a hideously large search space ofc. But itโ€™d to cool to see โ€œidealโ€ production chains based on maximizing the profit per base / day [28-Aug-24 12:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 Not saying you or anyone should do that. Itโ€™s just an idea I had floating around for a while [28-Aug-24 03:11 PM] akyantor#0000 RATs going to the moon. ๐Ÿ˜› [28-Aug-24 03:11 PM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/zMvn.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-mcduck-gif-6105587 Picsou https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5qwdg1wuF1p1A6rjIwNdBufzi7m4Pawg26Ct1LhDlTk/https/media.tenor.com/99CVARN9faoAAAAe/picsou-scrooge.png [28-Aug-24 03:11 PM] akyantor#0000 ๐Ÿ‘† live feed from sidepipes HQ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜Ž [28-Aug-24 03:17 PM] akyantor#0000 In all seriousness, great news for new players with a RAT start... reminicent of what happened when I started as a carbon farmer and C promptly shot up in price. ๐Ÿ˜› [28-Aug-24 03:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278449440834846802/image.png?ex=68152953&is=6813d7d3&hm=8aabb325d6e073b8729a5ae4c02361c5c9b26bd4d6e9be949b3a630949a34b5e& [28-Aug-24 03:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 Norwick and SE-110a are my most profitable non-IDC bases right now ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-24 03:22 PM] akyantor#0000 You were just playing the long game all this time... cornering the RAT market. [28-Aug-24 03:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 If we're not conspiring to raise the price of basic necessities, is it even a free market simulator? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [28-Aug-24 03:27 PM] akyantor#0000 Indeed [28-Aug-24 03:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 I haven't actually sold any RATs to the CX in a long while, I just changed all my bases to do 100% RAT for now. Hopefully I'll be able to calm prices down a little, but even two dedicated FP bases isn't a huge part of total RAT production [28-Aug-24 03:29 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, there's a staggering amount of production out there. I'd imagine most longer termed players at least partially have their own supply. [28-Aug-24 03:30 PM] akyantor#0000 I'd certainly be tempted when you're in the 20+ bases territory, as it must be a big chunk of your operating costs as every single base consumes it [28-Aug-24 03:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 this is kinda making me want to colonise SE-751b for more FPs though [28-Aug-24 03:30 PM] katinga#0000 flight points? [28-Aug-24 03:31 PM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/bbKwc.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/boom-food-processor-adulting-holderness-look-at-me-gif-15154414 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/W8SMpHgitl-Nv9E0c4yEhWZZ6-ACzZk6Vl60ySKv0a8/https/media.tenor.com/l527RFbKVloAAAAe/boom-food-processor.png [28-Aug-24 03:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 nope, it's short for Finger Pistols ๐Ÿ‘ˆ ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘‰ [28-Aug-24 03:31 PM] katinga#0000 i play an obscene amount of WoW [28-Aug-24 03:34 PM] zipatsu#0000 I buy enough consumables off of the CX to keep my bases running for about 2 months at a time to keep the economy goin', though I do sometimes grab some stuff from auctions here as well โœŒ๏ธ [28-Aug-24 03:34 PM] mrsmith33#0000 There is Hermes for FP [28-Aug-24 03:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 I was considering Hermes, but I currently use Demeter for HER only, so I'd have to bring everything all the way out from SE-110b [28-Aug-24 03:35 PM] katinga#0000 where's the guy with the green ! over his head? I can't find him! [28-Aug-24 03:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 oh, so that's why prices shot up ๐Ÿ˜› [28-Aug-24 03:37 PM] akyantor#0000 Blame assigned [28-Aug-24 03:37 PM] katinga#0000 Demeter seems farther? I grow GRN out there for C production. it takes over a day to get out to Dem from ANT. I have 2 bases in the SE-648 system that doesn't take that long to get to [28-Aug-24 03:37 PM] zipatsu#0000 I will neither deny nor confirm it but I do usually just set the unit price to like twice the current ask and then buy the amounts I need, whatever happens next is out of my hands ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Aug-24 03:38 PM] zipatsu#0000 I think it's like 5.2k DW & Rat per base for 60 days [28-Aug-24 03:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh yeah, I mean if I used Hermes for FP, I'd either have to move my HER production off Demeter so I could grow crops closer to it. Most of my crops come from SE-110b, which I think is a pretty long haul to demeter / hermes (which I believe are in the same system / near each other) [28-Aug-24 03:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Since Demeter is so far out, growing HER means I only need to make the flight once a month [28-Aug-24 03:42 PM] katinga#0000 I feel like I am out of places I can grow stuff on [28-Aug-24 03:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do you do food, as well? or is it all C, all the time? [28-Aug-24 03:44 PM] katinga#0000 GRN on Demeter for burners. CAF on Life for a cash crop. I can't touch what I grow on Harm [28-Aug-24 03:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thalassa B might still be an option, but it might be rough running 2 HYF bases without a dedicated NS base [28-Aug-24 03:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 you could always go rogue and start farming on phobos ๐Ÿ˜› [28-Aug-24 03:46 PM] katinga#0000 the water consumption is also a problem with 2 HYF bases [28-Aug-24 03:47 PM] katinga#0000 I have to buy the NS on the CX [28-Aug-24 05:28 PM] tuffyless#0000 KW-602c is an option too for FP. [28-Aug-24 05:28 PM] tuffyless#0000 H2O from Etherwind for DW and Agri from Life for RAT. [28-Aug-24 06:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm already on KW-602c - that's my all DW plant ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [28-Aug-24 06:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 When I *had *permits to blow, I was going to throw down 3 bases in the FK WetWater sys. And put a puddlejumper there to haul stuff around. FK-794b for H2O FK-794c for COF, DW, KOM, ALE, RAT, etc. FK-794d for CAF, Agri for RAT Our SE system is nearly same, is just closer to ANT. [28-Aug-24 06:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278493306925617162/image.png?ex=6814a96d&is=681357ed&hm=da5bcccf13dd95261be77f3048531f2e47a1abf673f7456fb7776e0ebaa5b375& [28-Aug-24 10:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 so so tempted to buy all of this up and add it to the 16.1 CIS SF pile {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278558914874441769/image.png?ex=6814e687&is=68139507&hm=634fac313fc67893902c894e274cc63597f5ec9a30de888533baf0cbac6990c0& [29-Aug-24 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 that's some cheap fuel [29-Aug-24 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 might as well buy it [29-Aug-24 09:33 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278724151183409274/image.png?ex=6814d7ab&is=6813862b&hm=3dc7151592c4de30d4517edff89ec276f76d1b0725254411883b1a6404dfc495& [29-Aug-24 09:33 AM] marat_sh#0000 it's a nice feeling to pack everything like for camping ๐Ÿ˜… [29-Aug-24 09:33 AM] marat_sh#0000 Romulan a gonna have a new neighbor [29-Aug-24 09:39 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Yeah seing a full ship for expansion is a nice feeling [29-Aug-24 09:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 Nice ship name ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Aug-24 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 Don't tell it to the other one ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1278726084526870670/image.png?ex=6814d978&is=681387f8&hm=08039bc0f696ae85c139cf5fec574571d3d0c0fd5aea0753d50d7bc143a10530& [29-Aug-24 09:50 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 So when do the mm change take effect? So I know if I can sell a bit of my jeetiyu IDC [29-Aug-24 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 date of the patch, I think they said 9/2 or 9/5? [29-Aug-24 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, 9/5 [29-Aug-24 03:00 PM] akyantor#0000 It's a bit frustrating when you miss a popr cycle when expanding. Having to wait 5-6 days to get all your pop sucks. :S [29-Aug-24 10:58 PM] xtc69#0000 that is a nice breakdown for sure [30-Aug-24 09:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah @xtc69 can you change your server name to match your prun name like: "Droxx69 | XTC" ? thanks! [30-Aug-24 09:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 Is anyone interested in any of these electronics parts? I make a bit of a surplus of each in my MHP factory - just seeing if they're worth auctioning here or if I should make them into something else ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279090323565318145/image.png?ex=6814db31&is=681389b1&hm=10c2861c5b452febe8c2156b67ed9f4b2656309a88834106a3fac579c57227b7& [30-Aug-24 09:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 (not in these exact amounts, I'd probably save up a bit more of each before listing them here) [30-Aug-24 09:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 I know that we have this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=0#gid=0 spreadsheet but I don't know how up to date it is. I wonder if there is a way to update your production per day and set what is available for purchase from corp members {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=0 Ooga Booga Corporate Production https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8C0q5dv9y2680gB1mNlkjFd2vy9QGc91qixGosTxCYg/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIUZpkjAneVqUI8pxM96GwNv0GTTHWGTEY-g372fQe4BgoubuOOLNSaj56lYmYJRcY7qFCewWS4npXngsJ3nWrb9l_xqOOJlYb5X8-iyQBp0mjY0FBy%3Dw1200-h630-p [30-Aug-24 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 yeah, I think it's quite out of date since most everything is done through the auction bot [30-Aug-24 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 i last updated mine on march 10 ๐Ÿ˜… [30-Aug-24 09:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Those are rookie numbers. You need to pump them up ๐Ÿ˜† {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279092591266238484/image.png?ex=6814dd4e&is=68138bce&hm=46bcc0c926a7e164ec220be077ee6f3f5f7bdb38004fd531efe438cc206cebc3& [30-Aug-24 09:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 so I assume you don't want any more then ๐Ÿ˜› [30-Aug-24 09:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 nah, I'm good [30-Aug-24 09:59 AM] sidepipe#0000 electronics are tough to balance without any excess - especially when it's all squeezed into one base like I have right now. i might see if I can split this off into two bases later so I can make a few more things than just MHP [30-Aug-24 10:00 AM] sidepipe#0000 but it's not like there's a reliable market for most electronics either [30-Aug-24 10:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 there is People just don't sell it on CX and hoard for themselves [30-Aug-24 10:02 AM] hernanduer#0000 oh please [30-Aug-24 10:02 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279093991085703311/image.png?ex=6814de9b&is=68138d1b&hm=b861f0d6e8ce434e628d4f071c7872b189f3aa1773cc9a150e034cdb9f4d479a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [30-Aug-24 10:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 that's why it's hard to balance [30-Aug-24 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Aug-24 10:03 AM] hernanduer#0000 and the several 10ks I have on the CX [30-Aug-24 10:04 AM] sidepipe#0000 well, I'm glad it's not just me ๐Ÿ˜‚ [30-Aug-24 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, apparently my ANT warehouse is worth over 225mil, I'm pretty sure at least half of that is in arbitrarily priced electronics parts [30-Aug-24 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 the pieces never really sell, and it used to be you couldn't buy them [30-Aug-24 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 so you'd build them up on individual levels until you get here... [30-Aug-24 10:05 AM] sidepipe#0000 for the most part, do you have electronics production lines where you make a specific thing? or is it just 10 of this, 100 of that, etc? [30-Aug-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 mostly specific things, but the balances are just slightly skewed to excess [30-Aug-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 and over 400 days, it builds up to that lol [30-Aug-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'm actually short on MBs right now [30-Aug-24 10:07 AM] hernanduer#0000 the trick is, most electronics outputs need to go to APF or AAF, and those just don't have a lot of work to do unless you also make ship parts [30-Aug-24 10:09 AM] sidepipe#0000 I guess that makes sense. and right now, I couldn't be further from ship parts [30-Aug-24 10:09 AM] sidepipe#0000 but maybe this is a reason to look into making... idk, something [30-Aug-24 10:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 seems like there's always space for ship parts on the market [30-Aug-24 10:10 AM] sidepipe#0000 but I started making MHP to feed Malahat's ever-growing needs, plus a little extra that I could toss on the CX and see what happens [30-Aug-24 10:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 it's just a very new experience to me to make something that doesn't have a definitive price on the CX ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Aug-24 10:12 AM] sidepipe#0000 especially since the cost of goods manufactured feature on prunplanner stopped working for me [30-Aug-24 10:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah, electronics are pretty badly like that. You kind of just have to eat the cost until you can sell a bunch at once or make end products [30-Aug-24 10:19 AM] hernanduer#0000 it's why they should NOT be a starting point [30-Aug-24 10:21 AM] marat_sh#0000 Electronics are basically made for Manufacturers... and since Manufacturers can just make their own electronics... market is stale [30-Aug-24 11:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 for anyone interested in FX trading - CIX/NCC has been quite profitable recently [30-Aug-24 11:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279121647693201569/image.png?ex=6814f85d&is=6813a6dd&hm=e6740232599323eda0a982bf8f833a0ef4a443c577fb7e4330086820df2595ae& [30-Aug-24 11:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 I've sold probably 9M CIS at 1.04+ NCC/u in the past week. it's just tough to change the NCC back to anything useable [30-Aug-24 11:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 change it into SF ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Aug-24 11:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279122208492490803/image.png?ex=6814f8e3&is=6813a763&hm=90b6029d1a74d20b29b1e73b2f484a4e3c7dcc5ff62d46f50572c0f8d3b5a843& [30-Aug-24 11:55 AM] sidepipe#0000 I wonder how long it would take to sell 1.3M SF at 16.1 AIC [30-Aug-24 11:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 but yeah, hit me up for all of your NCC needs in the meantime ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Aug-24 12:16 PM] xtc69#0000 just did ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Aug-24 12:16 PM] xtc69#0000 pass what you gave me lol took a min but here {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279127745884061843/image.png?ex=6814fe0b&is=6813ac8b&hm=312e3177275b7d708fba478f9bc2a138462aa959a5e12336745a8505be872f7c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [30-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cool ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 with the bar and your company name or company code too? [30-Aug-24 12:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 just makes it easy to find your company in game [30-Aug-24 12:17 PM] xtc69#0000 yep understand [30-Aug-24 12:17 PM] xtc69#0000 should be good [30-Aug-24 12:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 perfecto [30-Aug-24 12:52 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! I am so exited that I decided to join our corporation! ANT is really effective space. Most of my bases are close to each other and I made a "line" - ALO from Naskent to Vulcan, metals from Vulcan to Aceland, fabs to ANT. My ships are traveling full almost each segment. Hephaestus is so close to ANT, just an hour to fly. I am happy๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} โค๏ธ (3) ๐Ÿ’ช (2) ๐Ÿฅฐ ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [30-Aug-24 10:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 Ant II g needs a bigger warehouse ๐Ÿ˜… [30-Aug-24 11:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 Jus' sayin'. Does this qualify as exhibit #1 of ... too many PLI to govern? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279304603875278960/image.png?ex=6814fa01&is=6813a881&hm=1c4975d0731b8e91bbe65125063f13c26a794eb8726845887f0a0a0078c86455& [31-Aug-24 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 Yep, I made the cogc a panel on my governor screens [31-Aug-24 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 Which btw I really wish would copy between planets [31-Aug-24 08:38 AM] hernanduer#0000 Setting it up for every planet is one time but still annoying [31-Aug-24 08:09 PM] katinga#0000 24 BDEs would get it to the next level [31-Aug-24 08:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 8000 each right? [31-Aug-24 08:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 wanna split the cost and get an upgrade? [31-Aug-24 08:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 oh I was thinking about HSE [31-Aug-24 08:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 how expansive is it to get a 2000/2000 warehouse? [31-Aug-24 08:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 damn it's at lvl 7 [31-Aug-24 08:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 pretty expancive [31-Aug-24 08:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 but lvl 3 should be doable for 1000/1000 [31-Aug-24 11:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 PMMG can now auto-load ships for you using action packages: {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿ†’ [31-Aug-24 11:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://discord.com/channels/667551433503014924/833418713520537681/1279546685068152985 [01-Sep-24 12:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-01_00-16-10.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-01_00-16-10.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nzZ6OZH1hv0WWF_WohLNHrdMBj5GRKsUlCOD7v10qds/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-01_00-16-10.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (2) [01-Sep-24 12:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 Got it working! [01-Sep-24 12:20 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Sounds complicated ๐Ÿ‘€ teach me sensei [01-Sep-24 12:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 Gotta go to bed but I think this is promising [01-Sep-24 12:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 my tool needs some work though [01-Sep-24 12:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 needs ship names I guess [01-Sep-24 12:27 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿซก [01-Sep-24 04:59 AM] allocater#0000 Can it also be used for shipping ads to LMs? [01-Sep-24 06:17 AM] allocater#0000 is there a way to make a full screenshot of a prun window that has a scrollbar? [01-Sep-24 07:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 you can pop it out and resize to full screen, so there is no scroll bars {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279775097531662418/image.png?ex=6814b5f0&is=68136470&hm=d923a3a1840db79dfe80e586473258413eeded3d8d2b74fd148b161a51897258& [01-Sep-24 07:13 AM] mrsmith33#0000 also bigger monitor, full screen browser, reduced page scale [01-Sep-24 07:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 The action packs do two things now: purchasing from the CX and loading via MTRA [01-Sep-24 07:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 I dunno about the screenshot thing. you can grab a whole scrolling prun window with the browser's inspector [01-Sep-24 07:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah you can right click the node an "screenshot node" in firefox {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฏ [01-Sep-24 07:50 AM] archielvahr#0000 it sorta works..? [01-Sep-24 07:50 AM] archielvahr#0000 uhhh, it maxes out at 10k pixels high and it didn't seem to draw the offscreen parts [01-Sep-24 07:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 You also have to grab the right node, the one under the scroll content [01-Sep-24 07:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 Nah I'd say it doesn't really work ๐Ÿ˜› [01-Sep-24 07:53 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Doesn't seem to screenshot the whole scrollable node buffer, Only works for the whole page [01-Sep-24 07:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1279786214517506048/Screen_Shot_2024-09-01_at_07.52.50.png?ex=6814c04a&is=68136eca&hm=ca15351c68bf20cc6606017838623174697ae20aad344d61ab58c7e7aaaedc79& [01-Sep-24 07:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 this is the correct height for my prod buffer, but it put the other content on top of it, and alpha for the offscreen portions [01-Sep-24 08:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'm going to the Renaissance festival today, but here's a sheet that makes PMMG actions to load your ship (you'll need to change the name or switch it to "Configure on Execution") [01-Sep-24 08:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=1573374138#gid=1573374138 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=1573374138 Ooga Booga Corporate Production https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/tOEQu-7FghM7pWNsvAGEPjWgLeRIxvy8uptCsxNdfXU/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyJa4_Fj4ZYhHmcJqTwz17hiUntTeGP8R-nFaxjbWdvNLe8l76C9Pm09udcXbkKatjbIStOzI-O1FPPvnaSawyYWRDjeRLsau3MzEBEzR6RpjI6hcJme%3Dw1200-h630-p [01-Sep-24 08:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 Fill in the items you want at the top (or change them to consumables or whatever), then copy paste the JSON into pmmg [01-Sep-24 08:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 it takes a little work to understand the PMMG interface, but there's a lot of instructions on the other discord [01-Sep-24 08:30 AM] allocater#0000 This works somewhat: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/scrolling-screenshot-tool/mfpiaehgjbbfednooihadalhehabhcjo?pli=1 {Embed} https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/scrolling-screenshot-tool/mfpiaehgjbbfednooihadalhehabhcjo?pli=1 Scrolling screenshot tool & screen capture - Chrome Web Store Scrolling Screenshot tool for screen capture and screen sharing https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oNQkfaDG4jEmc-7-_q0FlsryL5gRpkVC_7tgVJ_4u8o/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/IM0EAjYQaOTDIoxiZ4h2uRf-k1bLn1Lzm3SoMsVIevHYTpJpVG1idOaWVhD4PZz8wgeY8G4N34cqvJJjOfqHzhOF1Q%3Ds128-rj-sc0x00ffffff [01-Sep-24 09:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 `screenshot --full-page` I've used before on Firefox for taking entire articles. I think they recently changed it so not sure if that's the exact argument anymore [01-Sep-24 09:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 Should take more than just the node if that's what you need [02-Sep-24 09:15 AM] marat_sh#0000 IDCs are in latest economic reports ๐Ÿ˜… [02-Sep-24 09:32 AM] melon164#0000 Some casual 9-figure cash drops in there ๐Ÿ˜ณ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [02-Sep-24 03:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 What chem planet should I drop some AMLs on? [02-Sep-24 03:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Bober? [02-Sep-24 03:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Griffon? [02-Sep-24 03:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [02-Sep-24 03:46 PM] mrsmith33#0000 The main factor is pops [02-Sep-24 04:04 PM] .urpalhal#0000 that's true and Griffstone has 18% unemployment vs 8% on Bober for ENG [02-Sep-24 04:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 1000 MCG ask order fills in less then an hour I can't ship more then people consume it ๐Ÿ˜… [02-Sep-24 04:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 That WCB kit would be pretty handy right now [02-Sep-24 04:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 do we have people who can make WCB kit? and how does upgrade works? [02-Sep-24 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Griff is pretty good with high tier population usually. [02-Sep-24 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think the total pop is much higher too [02-Sep-24 06:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 yeah it is [02-Sep-24 06:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 idk if we have a "kit" but you can buy the parts which you would then take the ship and the parts to a planet with a shipyard and upgrade it [02-Sep-24 06:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 you would in the BP manager make the ship you want to upgrade it to [02-Sep-24 06:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 then in the shipyard menu select the bp you are upgrading from and then select the one you are upgrading to and hit start project [02-Sep-24 06:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Thank you โค๏ธ [02-Sep-24 06:17 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ofc [02-Sep-24 06:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 Is it bad idea to upgrade just cargo? Or should I save up and upgrade to lhp and better engine [02-Sep-24 06:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 no not a bad idea per say [02-Sep-24 06:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 you could just do wcb with bigger fuel tanks and call that good [02-Sep-24 06:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿค” [02-Sep-24 06:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 True I can just burn more [02-Sep-24 06:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 and then later you could upgrade your ship [02-Sep-24 06:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 also you will need some kind of hull plate to upgrade [02-Sep-24 06:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 Wcb is not that chip as well 800k on cx [02-Sep-24 06:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 whether you use BHP or LHP is up to you [02-Sep-24 06:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 you can buy the WCB and stuff from someone here in OOG [02-Sep-24 06:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 Should I fix ship first and then upgrade? Or upgrading fixes it? [02-Sep-24 06:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 yes [02-Sep-24 06:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 fix then upgrade [02-Sep-24 06:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 upgrading doesn't fix {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿซก [02-Sep-24 10:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-02_22-37-09.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-02_22-37-09.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Q-OBpizCACgyQL96syVo2dzJpbE9scsRO3LTqHe2Hls/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-02_22-37-09.png [02-Sep-24 10:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 Select the planets you want to resupply, and it sums up whatever you need to get to the specified number of days, then makes the PMMG action Json to fill em [02-Sep-24 10:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 (i guess you sorta gotta separate them out at arrival, although it could do that if you wanted) [02-Sep-24 10:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think PMMG will probably be able to make them soon from the burn page [02-Sep-24 10:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 then we'll really be cooking [02-Sep-24 11:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 BRM ran out [02-Sep-24 11:43 PM] hernanduer#0000 I put up a nice order on CX [03-Sep-24 05:51 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™m losing my mindโ€ฆ how do you repair a ship? I have the materials and the shipโ€ฆ [03-Sep-24 07:18 AM] melon164#0000 Ship must be landed on a planet [03-Sep-24 07:22 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Wouldnโ€™t that be the case if Iโ€™m at Deimos and able to move materials between my base and ship? [03-Sep-24 07:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 It may need to be in base inventory [03-Sep-24 07:29 AM] katinga#0000 Ya know... I think a cool feature to have would be larger ships. However, anything bigger than a 2k/2k could have a matter stream system to transfer cargo as an option rather than a planet landing. [03-Sep-24 07:31 AM] mrsmith33#0000 space lifts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [03-Sep-24 07:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 Space elevators are already on the table [03-Sep-24 07:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 And with them hopefully something like 5k/5k freighters that can't tolerate atmospheric landings [03-Sep-24 07:58 AM] hernanduer#0000 But they have mentioned space elevators [03-Sep-24 07:59 AM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/theyre-not-elevators-theyre-orbital-lifts-commander-ransom-captain-freeman-star-trek-lower-decks-theyre-not-elevators-but-orbital-lifts-gif-26658843 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/theyre-not-elevators-theyre-orbital-lifts-commander-ransom-captain-freeman-star-trek-lower-decks-theyre-not-elevators-but-orbital-lifts-gif-26658843 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/AoWVz71Z_X64BHVDXvMpUJ1m4SuR7eecbJVnGOWV6lQ/https/media.tenor.com/FPqSHuoA288AAAAe/theyre-not-elevators-theyre-orbital-lifts-commander-ransom.png [03-Sep-24 08:03 AM] katinga#0000 With that, I wouldn't mind a rework of the warehouse system. More planet side storage would be welcome [03-Sep-24 03:03 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iโ€™m an idiotโ€ฆ that ship uses BHP {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅด [04-Sep-24 05:32 AM] akyantor#0000 I've had my first shipping contract fail... tried to have someone move some GRN from Harmonia->ANT... had to extend three times and getting no response on chat. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [04-Sep-24 05:33 AM] akyantor#0000 I guess you just keep extending in the vain hope they come back. [04-Sep-24 06:51 AM] sidepipe#0000 Was it krisjanis.liepins? [04-Sep-24 07:19 AM] akyantor#0000 It's caspiansk - or company name: Fat Dragon Farms. [04-Sep-24 07:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/967041882217660456 [04-Sep-24 07:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 probably time to report em [04-Sep-24 07:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 Probably quit the game judging by the activity. 600 days old though, should know better than to quit with active contracts [04-Sep-24 07:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 oh 600 days and just one planet [04-Sep-24 08:22 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™ll report them tonight if it breaches again [04-Sep-24 08:22 AM] akyantor#0000 But seems likely theyโ€™ve gone awol [04-Sep-24 08:23 AM] akyantor#0000 Annoying to lose the GRN in a somewhat tight supply chain. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [04-Sep-24 08:23 AM] akyantor#0000 Ah well [04-Sep-24 09:32 AM] sidepipe#0000 How much did you lose, and what crops could you replace it with? I have a ton of spare agri so I might be able to replace it for you ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Sep-24 09:36 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s only 500 GRN. More annoying than a disaster. [04-Sep-24 09:36 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I have a few thousand GRN [05-Sep-24 11:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 @.urpalhal I would like to cash out PSM and PSL this Saturday ( need some cash to expand the production ) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1281283298315731090/image.png?ex=6814ec8f&is=68139b0f&hm=3a6e980dcbca8a553fc6e084dffbc7e9e356f96d756c307e922fca63d2659c46& [05-Sep-24 11:33 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ok send conts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Sep-24 11:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'll buy a lot of PSM, like 500, one time at least [05-Sep-24 12:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 that's how much he made in one week tho so idk if he has 500 [05-Sep-24 12:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's tiny production ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Sep-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 14.9 PSL and 29.96 PSM per week [05-Sep-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am in a process of tranfering my bmps to Romulan A and swap BMPs on heph to printers [05-Sep-24 12:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 as soon as it's done I will start droping auctions for PSMs and PSLs [05-Sep-24 12:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 2 weeks ๐Ÿฅฒ ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Sep-24 12:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 well 1 and a half ๐Ÿ˜… [05-Sep-24 12:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah no worries, I've been watching, just wanted to make it clear you have at least one other short-term customer ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Sep-24 12:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 Long term plan would be fill up on printers so some of you guys can free up space for different buildings [05-Sep-24 12:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 What if you only made PSM in the short term? [05-Sep-24 12:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 sure Yeah I can do that [05-Sep-24 12:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 right now it's 2 to 1 ratio [05-Sep-24 12:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 2 PSM to 1 PSL [05-Sep-24 12:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's 52.36 PSM per week with current production [05-Sep-24 12:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will swap it as soon as I get home [05-Sep-24 12:21 PM] allocater#0000 I present to you the 73mil carbon bill {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1281303262720692275/carbonbill.png?ex=6814ff27&is=6813ada7&hm=d04fe8cfde25b34632132d6a413c28cc67735a9b96e1995c94a436c89dc471ad& {Reactions} โค๏ธ [05-Sep-24 12:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/long-cat-lol-longcat-extend-gif-17597031 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/long-cat-lol-longcat-extend-gif-17597031 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/KnYDEim_BRDsO-y_ZQGwphAKgYvdWlm-Cuhp2DEPUAk/https/media.tenor.com/cVGHkD5MuCAAAAAe/long-cat.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (7) [05-Sep-24 12:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 I shudder to think how many times you must have clicked "Rent Warehouse" [05-Sep-24 12:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 have you not clicked it at least 300 times? ๐Ÿ˜ [05-Sep-24 01:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I see why you needed that browser screenshot feature {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ’ฏ [05-Sep-24 07:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 If anyone's got extra nanoresin, send it over to me ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Sep-24 08:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 I could offer you some NCS and EPO in these trying times? [05-Sep-24 08:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 The NCS is from Higgsy and would be free, and the EPO can go at the lowest auction price - Iโ€™ve been gathering it because I meant to start making NR but never did ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Sep-24 08:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm yeah I could probably use whatever you send me. It would take a few days, but I have a bunch of labs I can use [05-Sep-24 08:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have 3996 EPO and 9000 NCS ๐Ÿ˜Ž [05-Sep-24 08:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll take the EPO and 6000 NCS, thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Sep-24 08:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 You okay sending contracts for them? Iโ€™m away from my PC for a bit [05-Sep-24 08:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 If not I can send them over when I get a chance [05-Sep-24 08:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sure {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ (2) [06-Sep-24 04:33 AM] akyantor#0000 Iโ€™ll have 850 units at ANT in a day or two, or immediately available at griffonstone. Let me know if you want it. [06-Sep-24 09:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Sure I'll take it on Griff, I have a ship landing there in ~12 hr, so that works great [06-Sep-24 09:41 AM] akyantor#0000 Np, contract sent. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [06-Sep-24 09:43 AM] akyantor#0000 bfabs are selling lot hot cakes, hardly any stock on the market other than the MM . [06-Sep-24 09:44 AM] akyantor#0000 Not a bad time to finally have an oversupply after weeks of using it all for expansion. ๐Ÿ˜› [06-Sep-24 11:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 @neth_havoc if you have more SIO let me know ๐Ÿซถ [06-Sep-24 11:31 AM] neth_havoc#0000 I send you a contract, the rest goes on auction. [06-Sep-24 11:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 I can wait for auction [08-Sep-24 06:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 Man, the XIT ACTION stuff is amazing. Makes it feel like a whole new game ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Sep-24 06:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 I need to take a look at the sheet Archiel made sometime - it would be really helpful to generate actions for multi-stop journeys (like resupplying Etherwind then KW-602c) [08-Sep-24 06:35 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I need to get around to setting it up [08-Sep-24 06:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 It's worth your time ๐Ÿ™‚ [08-Sep-24 06:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've just been doing one every time I resupply a base [08-Sep-24 07:09 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i just need to take the time to figure it out [08-Sep-24 07:09 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 any chance there is a tutorial? [08-Sep-24 07:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 uh, I'm actually not sure [08-Sep-24 07:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 I was just setting up a CX Buy and MTRA for each planet [08-Sep-24 07:27 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 So you need every CXPO for every commodity needed open for the action to run? [08-Sep-24 07:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 yep, but it'll tell you which you need [08-Sep-24 07:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 it's not usually too bad for mebecause I carry a lot of surplus [08-Sep-24 07:37 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Getting the hang of it [08-Sep-24 07:38 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 cant beleived i lived with it [08-Sep-24 08:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I skip the buy and only use it for transfers [08-Sep-24 08:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 just be sure to have a bazillion of each consumable on ANT ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Sep-24 08:57 AM] max.kalina#0000 New C crisis is coming?๐Ÿค” Just few days ago, C buy price on HRT was around 690 ICA {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1282701478229970954/image.png?ex=6814cf57&is=68137dd7&hm=505f072b258767a1f8ae6fea4b76e875df54c01ecde547aedac414f692d66f27& [09-Sep-24 09:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 Let's hope not... I've just ran out of C [09-Sep-24 09:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1282713495204401283 [09-Sep-24 09:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 No crisis here ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โค๏ธ [09-Sep-24 12:46 PM] allocater#0000 maybe I find a place to dump my 20k ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (3) [09-Sep-24 02:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 will there be increase in demand for PE in PE -> TSH? [09-Sep-24 02:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am currently producing around ~11k per day [09-Sep-24 02:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Not really significant in the scheme of things for PE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Sep-24 02:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 If anyone stocked up on SF before the MM changes hit - my stock on Hortus just sold out [10-Sep-24 02:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 125k at 17/u in a little over a week {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ต (3) [11-Sep-24 09:55 AM] marat_sh#0000 @timomurbekov Are you in ADI discord? [11-Sep-24 09:55 AM] marat_sh#0000 Ava is selling TIO on ANT right now [11-Sep-24 09:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 If it's one time deal I can buy it from her and sell it to you (no mark up) [11-Sep-24 09:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 How much do you need? [11-Sep-24 01:00 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey! No I am not on ADI, if you will send me an invitation, will appreciate [11-Sep-24 01:00 PM] timomurbekov#0000 I need a lot, at least 1000 [11-Sep-24 01:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 for anyone who wants in: https://discord.gg/u8aatRDb {Reactions} โค๏ธ [11-Sep-24 02:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 I though everyone here is also in ADI ๐Ÿ˜… [11-Sep-24 02:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 ADI is pretty new, so lots of the long time members aren't in there yet [11-Sep-24 02:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 Well getting all together would help with big projects [11-Sep-24 03:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, did you see my thread here? https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1283478831646380065 [11-Sep-24 03:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 No I didn't ๐Ÿ˜… I will look into it ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Sep-24 03:15 PM] katinga#0000 I will be out of town to Nashville starting Friday. I come back sunday night {Reactions} ๐Ÿค  [11-Sep-24 03:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Enjoy! I went once, I went line dancing, haha [11-Sep-24 04:04 PM] katinga#0000 I won't be doing much of that [11-Sep-24 07:32 PM] hernanduer#0000 I don't care about ADI, I'm just in it in case I need a large audience for something [11-Sep-24 08:19 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Haha same [11-Sep-24 08:19 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Made quite a few loans there [12-Sep-24 06:45 AM] martin1194#0000 Churavis is retired from game? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ (2) [12-Sep-24 07:16 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 yes, afaik. i didn't really realise this until just recently. [12-Sep-24 07:29 AM] martin1194#0000 Did he say any thing before he retired? [12-Sep-24 07:37 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 nothing that i noticed. maybe he wrote something when i wasn't following all the channels. or he said something in private. [12-Sep-24 07:37 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i only noticed when he denied my buy contd for H. [12-Sep-24 08:37 AM] sidepipe#0000 Does anyone else in the corp have an H tap? I only use a little H myself, but my supply has been slowly running out over the last few weeks [12-Sep-24 09:17 AM] allocater#0000 my H tab is only Hortus for 100/u [12-Sep-24 09:25 AM] akyantor#0000 I've 200/u a day on 759g, but consume pretty much all of it. :S [12-Sep-24 09:27 AM] tuffyless#0000 my tap is 382g with *some* surplus. I have 1k on ANT right now if youre in a pinch [12-Sep-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 Oh no, definitely not in a pinch yet. I was just trying to decide if it would make sense to drop my own base for H ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-24 09:31 AM] tuffyless#0000 it's a hot item on the CX lately [12-Sep-24 09:32 AM] sidepipe#0000 I figured it might make sense to sell anyway even if no one here needs more, with all the people going into chemistry [12-Sep-24 09:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 With all the excitement about gateways too, I imagine there will be a profitable niche for bringing the more annoying raw resources used for that to the market ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-24 09:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 (I donโ€™t actually know if H is one of those) [12-Sep-24 09:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 @neth_havoc how much more H can you spare? ๐Ÿ˜… [12-Sep-24 09:52 AM] neth_havoc#0000 1k [12-Sep-24 09:53 AM] marat_sh#0000 Let's do another 500 H ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [12-Sep-24 02:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nah he didn't say anything, I guess he wanted the quiet exit. He left all the channels and I think he deleted his discord account, or at least set it private / unfriended everyone. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™ [12-Sep-24 02:18 PM] akyantor#0000 A real shame. [12-Sep-24 03:29 PM] exeler#0000 No more takers for C? https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1085624056562335755/1283318714204164178 Poor Hal is gonna end up with almost all of it ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} partyhehe [12-Sep-24 03:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll help ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-24 03:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Poor? Lucky me [12-Sep-24 03:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 I can also back out ๐Ÿ˜‚ [12-Sep-24 03:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Itโ€™s ok [12-Sep-24 03:39 PM] .urpalhal#0000 If you want C I can be nice and share [12-Sep-24 03:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 I really only need 1-2k [12-Sep-24 03:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 That keeps me running for a few weeks ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Sep-24 04:29 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I produce H in substantial quantities on Ant IIg, and had for a while been keeping the CX price stable, but evidently my production is not enough to do that anymore [12-Sep-24 04:31 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I might expand that base to the full 1000 area (it is 750 at the moment) so that I can increase production. That or dedicate some area on KI-401d to H instead of AR [12-Sep-24 04:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 If you already went 750 area Might as well go all in ๐Ÿ˜… [12-Sep-24 04:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 H is pretty hot right now [12-Sep-24 04:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 And I assume that it will be like that or worse with gates projects [12-Sep-24 04:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 True, lol [12-Sep-24 04:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I think H is my most profitable product [12-Sep-24 04:41 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Just checking PRUNplanner, and yeah, at current prices H is my most profitable product by a mile [12-Sep-24 04:41 PM] draconisdomini#0000 $180k/day {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [12-Sep-24 04:43 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Only number 14 on the overall leaderboard, but apparently the largest producer in OOG [12-Sep-24 05:43 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I am making a AML base on Griffstone, but 6 AMLs are going to be used for a project in ADI [12-Sep-24 05:43 PM] .urpalhal#0000 should I fill out the rest of the base with LABs making ~~THC~~ TCL or just more AMLs? [12-Sep-24 05:44 PM] .urpalhal#0000 would be 3 labs or 2 more AMLs (8 total) [12-Sep-24 05:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 Please donโ€™t make THC in LABs ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [12-Sep-24 06:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 which one is for KV? [12-Sep-24 06:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh lmao TCL [13-Sep-24 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @max.kalina and @xtc69 , you have completed your trial a little while ago and I finally changed your color ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ โค๏ธ [13-Sep-24 05:03 PM] xtc69#0000 haha i forgot about the trail tbh lol ๐Ÿ™‚ [14-Sep-24 12:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 Same here๐Ÿคฃ [14-Sep-24 12:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 @archielvahrthanks a lot! [14-Sep-24 12:18 AM] xtc69#0000 hahah tyty @archielvahr [14-Sep-24 06:07 AM] melon164#0000 Can someone with an SKF make me a WCB and an MSL? I have all the inputs [14-Sep-24 08:40 AM] timomurbekov#0000 I can, could start in 16 hours on Vulcan {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Sep-24 09:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think I have a spare WCB on Heph. I will check in a bit [14-Sep-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 All automatically loaded: [14-Sep-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-06.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-06.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l05Aus1fg8RVu9kD7OPIbr0XgCNKLFkyC4xOF7Kgpsw/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-06.png [14-Sep-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Super handy [14-Sep-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-40.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-40.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/tSTNoUYXfsNcC4m-7nYp_4S-FYeJerUwL0cWhvyTWeA/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-03-40.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  (2) ๐Ÿคฏ [14-Sep-24 12:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 @.urpalhal How soon and how much per week are we talking for PSLs and PSMs? [14-Sep-24 12:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah. Okay I have a decent supply on ANT. I could probably send 2/3rds of these [14-Sep-24 12:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-05-42.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-05-42.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UsrGyQoVS0tgQqK6Cz5h_OwfJULJ0BAcbLVHuWT2omg/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_12-05-42.png [14-Sep-24 12:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 So whatever JeanPaul can't supply, just let me know [14-Sep-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284561057251070055/image.png?ex=6814fbb6&is=6813aa36&hm=f69b2a9645cb3f1ff6a5ddd94a297fadd968e855dbc2db8c14b3c9dd64c73c71& [14-Sep-24 12:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284561128017498243/image.png?ex=6814fbc6&is=6813aa46&hm=daaee2cf38b4a22c321feef7ca268eb2b82706e37123289ec2c6cfdf46b4b70d& [14-Sep-24 12:32 PM] melon164#0000 Thanks, do you want to make contracts on ANT? Or I can bring the inputs to Vulcan if you need. [14-Sep-24 12:34 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Better if you will bring it to Vulcan, my 2 ship are busy on some routes and always full on way back to Vulcan [14-Sep-24 12:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Probably a lot more than 1 bases worth if I keep my UPFs consistently goingโ€ฆ. [14-Sep-24 12:39 PM] .urpalhal#0000 This is roughly what I need (it doesnโ€™t account for what I have, but Iโ€™m gonna input FIO data, decided to to be a big boy and use spreadsheets and not vibes) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284569108901400758/IMG_2460.png?ex=68150335&is=6813b1b5&hm=74a23f3decac2cc854de3ed6fdcd7525a36552598227ed3a69d9285b140c72a9& [14-Sep-24 02:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ I don't think I can do that yet [14-Sep-24 03:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have funds to make temp solution but for a long term It will take me some time [14-Sep-24 03:01 PM] .urpalhal#0000 good news bears is i updated my sheet [14-Sep-24 03:01 PM] .urpalhal#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284605026702200972/Screenshot_2024-09-14_130104.png?ex=681524a9&is=6813d329&hm=b2b98a7f99050e02cc16de1626ad1f6f67945f6b483066f689d82c3f4558eb64& [14-Sep-24 03:01 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Less ~~PSM~~ PSL [14-Sep-24 03:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 30 DEC ๐Ÿ’€ [14-Sep-24 03:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 hey I *only need* 1 [14-Sep-24 03:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 is it per day? [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 no [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 or just what you need [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 Oh [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 just what I need [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 I though per day ๐Ÿ˜… [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 its too hard to find per day [14-Sep-24 03:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 that makes 5 BR1 and 3 CQM [14-Sep-24 03:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 Well I can do 160 PSM in like 4-5 days ๐Ÿ˜… With upgrades that I can arrange [14-Sep-24 03:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 Alright lets do them I am gonna post some orders [14-Sep-24 03:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Well Archi has some PSM too that I could buy in the mean time [14-Sep-24 03:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ It will take time to build up so yeah it works [14-Sep-24 03:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 So I can buy what ever you have rn and then get the rest from him [14-Sep-24 03:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 Get what you need from Archi [14-Sep-24 03:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will get you from next batch [14-Sep-24 03:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will take a bit of time to set everything up [14-Sep-24 03:06 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ok no worries [14-Sep-24 03:06 PM] .urpalhal#0000 the next batch might be different numbers [14-Sep-24 03:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 well the upgrade will output 239.47 PSM a week [14-Sep-24 03:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 so should be fine [14-Sep-24 03:10 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [14-Sep-24 03:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 if not Me and Archi definitely should be able to cover [14-Sep-24 03:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 Alright I've posted orders I will start working on this upgrade {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Sep-24 08:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm back home. Do we have a rate for PSM? [14-Sep-24 08:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Okay I sent 3 COM, 3 NV1, 20 PS, 160 PSM. I don' thave spare LIS but I can maybe start some..? [14-Sep-24 08:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, queued em up but it'll be a few days: http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_20-12-39.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_20-12-39.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PiaCXZ__hVLwgcSfxjtjtDvNlZx7K8VKtTv-Yc_Awoc/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-09-14_20-12-39.png [14-Sep-24 08:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Thatโ€™s fine [14-Sep-24 08:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I still need to acquire 1 DEC if someone ever decides to grace me with on in the CX [14-Sep-24 08:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Idk if there is one established [14-Sep-24 08:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 I eyeballed a bunch of prices [14-Sep-24 08:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 gotta keep them UPFs busy ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Sep-24 08:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Lemme know if the prices aren't working, I can adjust on either the buy or sell side [14-Sep-24 08:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284685905709236224/image.png?ex=6814c73c&is=681375bc&hm=ad3dd6b7841b2cf8b819433777a473ba3f25ed31311ce91746a595459f37093e& [14-Sep-24 08:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 if I avoid CQT/S/M/L I won't need DEC [14-Sep-24 08:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 Upgrade is up {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [14-Sep-24 08:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 which is my bottle neck at the moment [14-Sep-24 08:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am buying PG from CX and selling PSM at 2500 [14-Sep-24 08:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 we can try go lower if it stings [14-Sep-24 08:27 PM] .urpalhal#0000 did you mean like rate of consumption? [14-Sep-24 08:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 bc I currently use ~60 PSM/d and ~40 PSL/d [14-Sep-24 09:35 PM] exeler#0000 So apparently I'm the biggest DRF producer in the universe, and make more than 2x the next in line... I don't use them myself. So I figured I'd auction them off to see if any of you all want some ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [14-Sep-24 11:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 anyone got 1 TRU on Heph? ๐Ÿฅฒ [15-Sep-24 01:00 AM] exeler#0000 I do [15-Sep-24 03:22 AM] melon164#0000 I have DEC on ANT [15-Sep-24 03:23 AM] melon164#0000 Also convenient timing: ๐Ÿ˜ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284791726468370492/image.png?ex=681529c9&is=6813d849&hm=89515f55bec802c318bfdfa40897a41fdb1581965b219e2eeb3ee92fa093c509& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅฐ [15-Sep-24 06:37 AM] akyantor#0000 I just got a 40 rep point faction contract, score! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [15-Sep-24 08:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 I've fixed the problem No worries Thank you ๐Ÿซถ [15-Sep-24 09:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284876406039249047/image.png?ex=6814cfe7&is=68137e67&hm=950d76bbc1f6cbb9d918f1ea65f9a9d1b8eb1ff0a1c9f4997ca9f54628986b64& [15-Sep-24 09:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 went from 100 per day to 1000 per day [15-Sep-24 10:33 AM] allocater#0000 I somehow managed to have 6 offers at CXOB HCP.IC1 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [15-Sep-24 10:41 AM] akyantor#0000 Cornering the market ๐Ÿ˜† [15-Sep-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 Since there was a 800 PSL bomb dropped in auction [15-Sep-24 03:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am going to out put PSMs for now [15-Sep-24 03:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 this notification confused me for a moment {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1284971945409904691/image.png?ex=681528e1&is=6813d761&hm=27bfb8f0fa1d9058ef2fe74466086325e3397ed2af439929e616b0d0134fa561& [15-Sep-24 03:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 I was wondering when they added war to the game ๐Ÿ˜„ [15-Sep-24 04:49 PM] zipatsu#0000 *Everything changed when Bober attacked* {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [16-Sep-24 08:55 AM] marat_sh#0000 60+ PSM/d is achieved {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1285237629260136508/image.png?ex=6814ced1&is=68137d51&hm=9df9603eaef807500d9100c4989498c30c528a2e87f934f15a34fd7949db4554& {Reactions} partyhehe (3) [16-Sep-24 10:29 PM] marat_sh#0000 so apparently 64.2 PSM per days is #2 in the galaxy [17-Sep-24 12:31 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Heck yeah ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [17-Sep-24 11:56 AM] xtc69#0000 This might be random but it a free vote it for my kiddo ๐Ÿ™‚ https://babyoftheyear.org/2024/mateo-kavanagh?fbclid=IwY2xjawFWk59leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdc8pBiXQWYPskya7cAn7O-_LPDhIbbTw6Daw4OQvEbU9KscrpB_7f0UXw_aem_UileTbzvykzi4Kwd_GYrKA {Embed} https://babyoftheyear.org/2024/mateo-kavanagh?fbclid=IwY2xjawFWk59leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdc8pBiXQWYPskya7cAn7O-_LPDhIbbTw6Daw4OQvEbU9KscrpB_7f0UXw_aem_UileTbzvykzi4Kwd_GYrKA Who will be the 2024 Baby of the Year? Vote for Mateo Kavanagh to appear in Good Housekeeping as Baby of the Year and win $25,000! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/lTQRIwwBXrcW8Knl9fvSvaPSA_jTNiKdix7Gr5Ssf48/https/babyoftheyear.org/images/meta/ad50a19502f61f21764f40d97f15aa2d.jpg [17-Sep-24 12:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm conflicted because I have an 8mo old ๐Ÿค” [17-Sep-24 01:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 I donโ€™t have FB account sorry ๐Ÿ˜… [17-Sep-24 11:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Voted with my fake account ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Sep-24 08:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/good-news-everyone-hubert-billy-west-futurama-i-have-some-exciting-news-gif-227675450524204625 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/good-news-everyone-hubert-billy-west-futurama-i-have-some-exciting-news-gif-227675450524204625 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/uwKweg51TgtmyuRv071yAWdVVVZntzOGbWlgJWA0xDU/https/media.tenor.com/AyjdnbCSflEAAAAe/good-news-everyone-hubert.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ [18-Sep-24 08:17 AM] marat_sh#0000 I've got 5th expert and dropping price for PSM to 2000/u {Reactions} partyhehe [18-Sep-24 12:32 PM] katinga#0000 does anyone have any SEA on Nike I can buy? I sent the wrong material :/ [18-Sep-24 12:36 PM] hernanduer#0000 I have 149 [18-Sep-24 12:37 PM] katinga#0000 I need 300 {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅฒ [18-Sep-24 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 5.... [18-Sep-24 04:32 PM] draconisdomini#0000 AR from KI-401d is starting to hit the market. I'm selling at 150/u at the moment. I will probably drop the price further as run through all the buy orders at that price level. [18-Sep-24 04:33 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Also number 3 in the galaxy in AR production already and it isn't even at full capacity yet! {Reactions} ๐ŸŒช๏ธ ๐ŸŽ‰ [18-Sep-24 08:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 Sorry I will be dropping auctions for PSMs quite often for a bit since I need cash to keep making them [19-Sep-24 08:10 AM] marat_sh#0000 Lowering prices ๐Ÿ˜ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1286313485369741375/image.png?ex=6814c449&is=681372c9&hm=68a602711182dcf6181f79e0a0420c1cfe1a26cf51c28f690d7e4b2d63242de0& [19-Sep-24 08:32 AM] melon164#0000 Oooh you're going to hit my bid soon ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Sep-24 08:33 AM] marat_sh#0000 90% of stuff I make I sell here and the rest is for price manipulations ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Sep-24 08:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 Made Laaxus drop his 200 from 3200 to 2500 Feels nice ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Sep-24 08:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 we will see if he sells at your bid [19-Sep-24 09:11 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 He owes me lots of money, donโ€™t drive him out of business! Haha [19-Sep-24 09:12 AM] katinga#0000 make sure you attend the bankruptcy hearings ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Sep-24 09:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿคฃ I am sorry [19-Sep-24 09:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 is TRU also your customer? [19-Sep-24 09:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 I've been undercutting him quite a bit as well [19-Sep-24 09:17 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Just joking haha [19-Sep-24 09:17 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 No loans made to TRU [19-Sep-24 09:17 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 About 10mil to Laaxus but Iโ€™m quite confidant in him [19-Sep-24 09:18 AM] marat_sh#0000 He is taking the most profitable routes He should be fine [19-Sep-24 09:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1286330853726879879/image.png?ex=6814d476&is=681382f6&hm=f71fdadb598ad51bd39f59523124ec80cfe2dd32d1e3ffdf8454ffdeac349e91& [19-Sep-24 09:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 dude just bought mine at 2100/u and relisted at 2300/u [19-Sep-24 09:20 AM] marat_sh#0000 Blood doesn't know that I play a long game here ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Sep-24 09:20 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Iv done that a few times [19-Sep-24 09:21 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Worth it sometimes but itโ€™s a dangerous game [19-Sep-24 09:21 AM] katinga#0000 We see their TRU colors shining though! {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  [19-Sep-24 09:21 AM] marat_sh#0000 it does on liquid markets [19-Sep-24 09:21 AM] marat_sh#0000 last time PSM was sold at ASK was 2 weeks ago [19-Sep-24 09:22 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s technically a win for you - you wanted to sell at 2100 and you just did ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Sep-24 09:23 AM] sidepipe#0000 Never feels that way though [19-Sep-24 09:23 AM] marat_sh#0000 I always sell at small chunks [19-Sep-24 09:23 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have 140 PSM in storage [19-Sep-24 09:23 AM] marat_sh#0000 110 to auction [19-Sep-24 09:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 I will just relist another 20 PSM at 2100/u [19-Sep-24 09:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 we will see if he buys it again ๐Ÿคฃ [19-Sep-24 09:24 AM] sidepipe#0000 List at several prices [19-Sep-24 09:24 AM] sidepipe#0000 Like 2250, 2200, 2100 [19-Sep-24 09:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 Might as well get some extra cash if he flips it again ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Sep-24 09:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 I do it that way so people who are above me will get ping (notification) that their item is selling and they don't need to change prices [19-Sep-24 09:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 in a bit I put another ask order under them again [19-Sep-24 09:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 works wonders on REPs [19-Sep-24 09:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 The thing is I don't want to sell all of my stock [19-Sep-24 09:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 I just give bit by bit and not letting people buy me out completely [19-Sep-24 09:27 AM] sidepipe#0000 Ahh, gotcha - I thought you were planning on lowering the price permanently [19-Sep-24 09:27 AM] sidepipe#0000 What youโ€™re doing makes more sense ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Sep-24 09:27 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am here for a long game ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Sep-24 09:28 AM] melon164#0000 I just struck a 6M deal with him, so that's reassuring ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Sep-24 09:34 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I think heโ€™s pretty smart with his cash. Letโ€™s just hope he doesnโ€™t burnout {Reactions} ๐Ÿคž [19-Sep-24 09:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 He probably will But I think he will pay off the loans before that [19-Sep-24 09:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 He is too energetic about this game [19-Sep-24 09:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 Probably get bored pretty quickly [19-Sep-24 09:47 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Heโ€™s been here a while weโ€™ll see [19-Sep-24 09:48 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I was like that when I started as well but Iโ€™m finding my steady state now [19-Sep-24 09:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 Same ๐Ÿ˜… It's just a background game while I play other stuff [19-Sep-24 09:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 Don't do spreadsheets anymore [19-Sep-24 09:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 "Do I make money out of this?" "Fine by me" ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Sep-24 09:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Same. I tend to go low-maintenance for a month then spend a few week building new bases and shuffling around old ones. Keeps things fresh ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Sep-24 09:51 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 I try to avoid supply contracts as much as I can. Iv found that for me, I need to be able to take a day off once in a while for it not to feel to rigid [19-Sep-24 09:51 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Thatโ€™s why I went with loans, it runs in the background and auto pays {Reactions} ๐Ÿง  [19-Sep-24 09:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 My only set responsibility is the bank stuff, which I actually find kinda fun anyway. Plus things have massively slowed down now that allocater restructured the deal [19-Sep-24 09:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 At the peak I think we were running and supplying 16 EDC bases [19-Sep-24 09:54 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 What is the bank stuff you are involved in? [19-Sep-24 09:55 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 You were running the logistics of the Malahat IDC program? [19-Sep-24 10:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yes - I handle all the contracts of the EDC program (not IDC, thatโ€™s self-service) in exchange for a cut per EDC ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Sep-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s just because allocater is on basic rn. He does all the other bank stuff ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Sep-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 Gotta log those loans! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b4lz7ku8AiygXcCN8LPF7EdgnCoCMi2t241yAtcImuA/edit?gid=0#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b4lz7ku8AiygXcCN8LPF7EdgnCoCMi2t241yAtcImuA/edit?gid=0 PRUN Credit Bureau https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/506Yqf8bdpdjLVEN8Jb6ts9ATh9klFBR_MTg0sjDhYs/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyLWO0EC72W5lss1EGR2H6XDSrm5crNK1Im4VB5MSgBMSzvCfYpz-7K8YwYr7b17XQ-lm6RRIF9RAARjgKIHP2or6FLIYa27ZVplL_uJXmk-rruqR_c%3Dw1200-h630-p [19-Sep-24 10:19 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve been working on mine - need to add a bunch for the ADI ship project tonight! [19-Sep-24 10:20 AM] marat_sh#0000 Insula haven't been online for a week or so [19-Sep-24 10:20 AM] marat_sh#0000 He has a pending payment with me due in 2 days [19-Sep-24 10:21 AM] marat_sh#0000 How to extend it so He doesn't breach the contract? [19-Sep-24 10:23 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™ll let you extend once youโ€™re in the final 24 hours [19-Sep-24 10:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 Insula has some work and real life travel stuff going on right now [19-Sep-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have some contracts also. I am gonna just keep extending them until he's back, and I'm sure it'll work out fine [19-Sep-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 If you need an advance I can spot you cash [19-Sep-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 I am waiting on 4 LCBs but fortunately that's not the bottleneck so no biggie for me [19-Sep-24 10:27 AM] marat_sh#0000 All good, I just don't want to tank his rating [19-Sep-24 10:29 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Heard heโ€™s on vacation but unclear [19-Sep-24 10:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 Evo bought the 3 LCBs I listed at 600k and just relisted at 1mil [19-Sep-24 10:37 AM] hernanduer#0000 I hope no one is buying at that price [19-Sep-24 10:40 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Probably trying to raise the price of CX ships to stay as attractive as possible for ship buyers [19-Sep-24 04:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 any use for other PPF recipes? DCM? [19-Sep-24 04:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 or is it just PSLs and PSMs? [19-Sep-24 04:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 I use all of them, but I'm fine buying just the PX rather than the DX {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Sep-24 04:34 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Anyone has PG on Hyalos? [20-Sep-24 01:38 PM] max.kalina#0000 H2O on MOR๐Ÿคช {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1286758354542395422/image.png?ex=6815111a&is=6813bf9a&hm=035cf70f0ac7d1532537b55181f0fae68816476cfb78e7096da440a4c38194de& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [20-Sep-24 02:04 PM] zipatsu#0000 Went up quite a bit for sure, might attract some more people towards H2O production though โœŒ๏ธ [20-Sep-24 02:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1286772231409500274/image.png?ex=68151e07&is=6813cc87&hm=d5545e343ad1675c2a4c151fcf8d9a37af96d60f309cd7bc3ba96282a0cc1dab& [20-Sep-24 02:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 I didn't get an option to extand [20-Sep-24 02:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 how do I extand? [20-Sep-24 02:37 PM] mrsmith33#0000 after the deadline {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ‘ [22-Sep-24 02:34 PM] hernanduer#0000 I can run an auction if anyone needs AU, I'm basically the AU king with over 1700 available ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Sep-24 02:34 PM] hernanduer#0000 aka gold king ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Sep-24 10:13 AM] hernanduer#0000 Archiel getting a call out from molp {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐ŸŽ‰ [23-Sep-24 10:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 [23-Sep-24 10:25 AM] max.kalina#0000 Nice discussion [23-Sep-24 10:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 it was a good decision to make a Q&A post [23-Sep-24 02:12 PM] akyantor#0000 It seems they're back focusing on the gateways work after a brief detour into the community translations. I wonder if it'll land before the end of the year. [23-Sep-24 03:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 depends... Is the feature working already? or they just working on UI for the feature... I assume that gateway works since Starting from UI and list of materials would be strange. I don't know how much work they intend to put into this feature but if take a summer as a time scale I thing they have 1-2 months worth of work [23-Sep-24 04:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think ships don't fly through it, but once they are working on a feature and showing new buffers and stuff it usually goes pretty fast [25-Sep-24 09:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1288506156402344048/image.png?ex=6814d55e&is=681383de&hm=44535c1c2222a22a65d1a4c16af50ce04de86a8a586e459ca7adb2c4c82d7d86& [25-Sep-24 09:23 AM] hernanduer#0000 wat do [25-Sep-24 09:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 I don't know how long that's been there [25-Sep-24 09:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 if you click on it does it open something? [25-Sep-24 09:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 If you click on a SHPT it opens the contract at least [25-Sep-24 10:22 AM] hernanduer#0000 it doesn't [25-Sep-24 12:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Itโ€™s gonna be a mystery forever ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ [26-Sep-24 06:32 AM] katinga#0000 just a heads up, I may go dark over the weekend. I am in the Atlanta metro area and Helene is expected to come for a visit {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [26-Sep-24 08:40 AM] zipatsu#0000 Stay safe out there ๐Ÿซก [26-Sep-24 08:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1288858101688045681/AB77683C-27D9-4FE0-B2EA-09AE87032352.png?ex=6814cba5&is=68137a25&hm=afe0da14b8e60b2eea926d69f75bd8a776518f248033c265bb84d24b8a049aa2& [26-Sep-24 08:42 AM] marat_sh#0000 Good luck [26-Sep-24 09:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oof yeah, good luck [26-Sep-24 10:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 watch out for landslides [26-Sep-24 10:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 super scary to me [26-Sep-24 09:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome to your trial, @shinonomesciences ! Take a look at #shareholders-welcome and #public-welcome and also be sure to check out our new user guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ry14xONeuXAE1Sc0n6PA-V9vuX8s9DHXGtVJ7sP-YaQ/edit {Embed} https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ry14xONeuXAE1Sc0n6PA-V9vuX8s9DHXGtVJ7sP-YaQ/edit OOG New Starter Introduction Guide OOG New Starter Introduction Guide Introduction We are the premier corporation in Antares space and the largest governance organisation in the universe. As a corporation, we work to ensure the stability of the Antares region, as well as creating a fun and engaging place for our members to enjoy ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7T00xaHnpz4wHuJv0IjkrqrzRFPbdHKOjRYyzb3NAlw/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIYCA072_zMq7ues_OgpBMzu32ne_e5brZHNTDleBIhiQtxV7gp6Dm6MKuRJ5A7IKYA3j8yz4hYu8x2WmnAS5pr41tECC12MOfDeRnjTp_a_LhmY85t%3Dw1200-h630-p [26-Sep-24 09:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you have any questions, please let us know ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Sep-24 09:14 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Thanks for having me {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ (2) ๐Ÿฅฐ [26-Sep-24 09:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 Welcome ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Sep-24 10:41 PM] hernanduer#0000 Howdy [27-Sep-24 12:56 AM] katinga#0000 New guy washes the ships! [27-Sep-24 01:05 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 I don't make my own BLE ;( [27-Sep-24 06:01 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-happy-invite-proud-vijay-gif-14216089860049333702 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-happy-invite-proud-vijay-gif-14216089860049333702 welcome.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_GVK-418OjRxSertAtQRKQKxUlM9Zq-bap2dL8vqVK8/https/media.tenor.com/xUmyaFtF7cYAAAAe/welcome-happy.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿช„ [27-Sep-24 09:54 AM] max.kalina#0000 Hi everyone! Is there is a ship that could handle 4000t? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1289238702874300427/image.png?ex=6814dc9b&is=68138b1b&hm=49b7bf0432d68a36d5b990a55b61924df58b3f6669d1652655150eb90838acb7& [27-Sep-24 10:07 AM] hernanduer#0000 Uhh nope [27-Sep-24 10:07 AM] hernanduer#0000 Weird order {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Sep-24 01:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 another quality meme from the ADI server {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1289292085345783808/image.png?ex=68150e53&is=6813bcd3&hm=33ab65d05522f8a1f1b0e55d6ad81f45ddd2c8145107baad7db9586a1febbcd3& {Reactions} partyhehe (2) โค๏ธ [27-Sep-24 02:07 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1NSl1M61ZxvobTJK9D89iZ4j6W297arRTV0Dev78aYg/https/media.tenor.com/aAsftu-ZFLUAAAAe/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec.png [29-Sep-24 04:18 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! I just opened my 6 base (5 in ANT space) - Electonics base on Phobos {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [29-Sep-24 09:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 Very nice! I think you are speeding up! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [29-Sep-24 11:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1289988234918756482/image.png?ex=6814f3aa&is=6813a22a&hm=a9664526e5079f69783decfe57a659f31559f0ee118979f767b0729d5248a463& [29-Sep-24 11:34 AM] marat_sh#0000 well... that's not good [29-Sep-24 11:39 AM] akyantor#0000 โ›ณ [29-Sep-24 11:41 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, not many suppliers of COF either in corp or via ADI... looks like anoither consumable is about to go to the ๐ŸŒ› [29-Sep-24 02:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve got more COF at SE-110b, I can auction more. Just been behind on shipping [29-Sep-24 02:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 I can usually fill orders <100 right away if anyone needs them - just send me the conts ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Sep-24 03:14 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i also have small amounts of COF on ANT. just post orders of up to 300 units at a time and i can fulfill them right away. [30-Sep-24 11:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 any MG users here? [30-Sep-24 11:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 what is average consumption for like PG or something? [01-Oct-24 02:25 AM] darjaves#0000 What is this? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290575268347514880/image.png?ex=68151c21&is=6813caa1&hm=4444111ba4d77cc6cf996bcdf7902dda66e0e6dd7d10b2a90c7e6c8f588b7f40& [01-Oct-24 04:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I use 110 MG/day (on YK-024a) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Oct-24 07:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 People being goofy with motion names {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [01-Oct-24 07:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like a couple of payouts and a tax increase [01-Oct-24 08:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 Caskman in particular likes weird names [01-Oct-24 12:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 There is a gateway survey here being run by realbandit, `co TSB` a member of Supernova Foundries. Please feel free to fill it out. It is good to see ANT well represented in such surveys. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScyn9s9BkqvMWpP6f0Y7ws9OktvhzP1oDrZ-vTscVIT7r85kw/viewform {Embed} https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScyn9s9BkqvMWpP6f0Y7ws9OktvhzP1oDrZ-vTscVIT7r85kw/viewform Galactic Highway Gateways will be a multi-year, multi-stage project to connect the various regions, the primary usage being connecting the 4 main CX regions. This poll is aimed to find out which Gateways links will be most useful and should be priortized, and which systems between CX's will gain the most advantage from being the midpoint. We don't yet know just... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BW84erI6Au5dc4eCuzk6_PqVhwm4ZdePY_yWWhj6u_Q/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/QNW6n70dTdXgK44-4XsWrauECeu_S7LnfFyommgYT8rO0yz4djxbC0hfv5Bj4MmKo_CUV2GQa9Q%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Oct-24 01:17 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Done [01-Oct-24 01:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Oct-24 01:18 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Anyone got some afabs? [01-Oct-24 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 A 'lil bit, how much you looking for? [01-Oct-24 01:23 PM] timomurbekov#0000 I do have some, but just few [01-Oct-24 01:25 PM] .urpalhal#0000 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1225474059480072305/1290456918468333619/Screenshot_2024-09-30_163449.png?ex=66fd2fe8&is=66fbde68&hm=7d5fc27845554cdf6dbab29613fe096fc7ec8a4575cd6f8fd669347c2d876733& {Embed} https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1225474059480072305/1290456918468333619/Screenshot_2024-09-30_163449.png?ex=66fd2fe8&is=66fbde68&hm=7d5fc27845554cdf6dbab29613fe096fc7ec8a4575cd6f8fd669347c2d876733& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1225474059480072305/1290456918468333619/Screenshot_2024-09-30_163449.png?ex=6814ade8&is=68135c68&hm=13314d4fe27dddc7d9a5ad4fa91b877ae609a6c71fded9094006c2f952af112c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฌ ๐Ÿ™ƒ [01-Oct-24 01:25 PM] .urpalhal#0000 That many [01-Oct-24 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, I have everything there on ant except the RDE {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [01-Oct-24 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Feel free to send contracts [01-Oct-24 01:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 unless TimurOm wants to sell first [01-Oct-24 01:31 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I just need a few ๐Ÿ˜‰ [01-Oct-24 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 I just put like 20mil up on afab orders [01-Oct-24 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 on the CX [01-Oct-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 I love to see that PSM market is alive finally [01-Oct-24 03:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 just past 2 months there is more volume then whole year [01-Oct-24 03:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 Speaking of which, would you be willing to print a few hundred PSS for me? Turns out the electronics base is a little slow to start without any experts ๐Ÿ˜… [01-Oct-24 03:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 Not a problem if you donโ€™t have capacity for it, just thought Iโ€™d ask [01-Oct-24 03:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can, it depends how fast do you need them [01-Oct-24 03:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can make like 128 in 1 day [01-Oct-24 03:35 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I can sell 20 RDE. Send contract {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [01-Oct-24 03:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 200/500/1000 ? and tell me how soon you want them [01-Oct-24 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 I do take any requests since I am not doing vertical integration [01-Oct-24 03:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Could you do like 200-300 in 7 days? [01-Oct-24 03:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 My first orders finish in 12 days, so just trying to get ahead of that ๐Ÿ˜ [01-Oct-24 03:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah I can do that in ~3-4 days [01-Oct-24 03:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 Send the contract for 7 days I will fill it ๐Ÿ‘ Also what price do you want them? is 1000/u fine by you? [01-Oct-24 04:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 Any price is cheaper than what my base without PSS is costing me right now ๐Ÿ˜‚ [01-Oct-24 04:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 1k/u is perfect ๐Ÿ˜ [01-Oct-24 04:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ Send the contract [01-Oct-24 04:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 Will do when Iโ€™m home - thanks! [01-Oct-24 04:17 PM] marat_sh#0000 I do have have some backup PSMs so I will just run PSS until its done So around 3 days you will have them [01-Oct-24 04:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/good-news-everyone-hubert-billy-west-futurama-i-have-some-exciting-news-gif-227675450524204625 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/good-news-everyone-hubert-billy-west-futurama-i-have-some-exciting-news-gif-227675450524204625 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/uwKweg51TgtmyuRv071yAWdVVVZntzOGbWlgJWA0xDU/https/media.tenor.com/AyjdnbCSflEAAAAe/good-news-everyone-hubert.png [01-Oct-24 04:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am getting Textile production {Reactions} partyhehe [01-Oct-24 05:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 price on RDE? [01-Oct-24 05:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 For PMMG Action Packages, can you do `IF ELSE` statements? [01-Oct-24 05:56 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I would like to do IF there is stock in my ANT warehouses transfer that, ELSE buy it on the CX.... [01-Oct-24 05:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290809832005304374/Screenshot_2024-10-01_155720.png?ex=6814a516&is=68135396&hm=f634f06b320bdd351520daa7825d960ae77bd6899c639e563fb65b952d89821b& [01-Oct-24 05:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh maybe this? [01-Oct-24 05:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 sorta - if you set it up the right way, it'll buy whatever it needs [01-Oct-24 05:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 let me grab a screenshot [01-Oct-24 05:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290809966445334609/image.png?ex=6814a536&is=681353b6&hm=f8b52578b76c4406916c9e1a9ea5083d3bfad3672e6481c6d00f5de4ce02576e& [01-Oct-24 05:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290810006827958363/image.png?ex=6814a53f&is=681353bf&hm=25f5176ffe5f1acc0ff837b4c3ebd86e3c0e17296941966dfce4d62fc64c9f28& [01-Oct-24 06:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 don't mind the fact that I named it 15 but am only loading 10 days of supplies. that explains why nike is always empty ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Oct-24 06:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 so uh [01-Oct-24 06:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 it will buy DW etc but also C and such? [01-Oct-24 06:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290811285448949841/Screenshot_2024-10-01_160232.png?ex=6814a670&is=681354f0&hm=491c2d2f0f6b961ff3a5a546653814881f17cb698211806020821e1b7ddc048e& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290811285725777920/Screenshot_2024-10-01_160238.png?ex=6814a670&is=681354f0&hm=29049ff432425aaf0e02f4369016f547e79728192929d8f0784fb188887849dc& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290811285981888563/Screenshot_2024-10-01_160248.png?ex=6814a670&is=681354f0&hm=62968d5bd09ac5cf904b99ba73f7b4b9bb04cf54c67cfb9cb9a73dc8bd6dd6d8& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290811286401056868/Screenshot_2024-10-01_160254.png?ex=6814a670&is=681354f0&hm=477da19c96977080e7450da2974165a79f7db53d405e697a60da7ed518a7a534& [01-Oct-24 06:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 So this will buy 30 days of consumables and transfer it to a ship INV yeah? [01-Oct-24 06:12 PM] sidepipe#0000 yup - everything the base uses except what you put in the exclusions there [01-Oct-24 06:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 you can view what it wants to do before you execute too {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Oct-24 06:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 do those "Resupply" do a flat 30 days of supplies or does it take just enough to make the current INV of the planet up to 30? [01-Oct-24 06:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 like if it uses 1 DW per day and there is 10 DW on the planet, will it move 20 DW or 30 DW? [01-Oct-24 06:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 the second, if you use the base inventory option [01-Oct-24 06:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 otherwise I think it'll just do the flat 30 [01-Oct-24 07:53 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Wait, you can place automatic orders with conditional checks? [01-Oct-24 07:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 using PMMG [01-Oct-24 07:54 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 That's so helpful [01-Oct-24 08:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 do we have RCO producers? I may or may not bough everything from CX ๐Ÿ™ƒ [01-Oct-24 09:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 what does this mean? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290864303683014656/Screenshot_2024-10-01_193333.png?ex=6814d7d1&is=68138651&hm=9cac75fc2cc2421c75344b4186049a2a4577a07239b38124f4d3491c412c4bb2& [01-Oct-24 09:34 PM] .urpalhal#0000 uhm you could be? [01-Oct-24 09:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 does it means the supplies are too old for me to buy? [01-Oct-24 09:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 You need to have the CXPO windows for those open - that means it wants to buy some from the CX and canโ€™t access the CXPO window [01-Oct-24 09:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh naur [01-Oct-24 09:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 how much do you think its gonna cost me? [01-Oct-24 09:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Lots ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Oct-24 09:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 But itโ€™ll tell you โ€œbuying x AL at y/uโ€ [01-Oct-24 09:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 And you have to click buy for every one of them [01-Oct-24 09:40 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Do I need a MTRA for each one [01-Oct-24 09:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh it worked with one [01-Oct-24 09:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 do I hit skip? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1290867224478879858/Screenshot_2024-10-01_194515.png?ex=6814da89&is=68138909&hm=f3ea02315effb6ec01b909c93b37c6e1b841990b81cbba1698145d908683d2e7& [01-Oct-24 09:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 Try moving the window - I have had the button show up behind the MTRA window for some reason [01-Oct-24 09:48 PM] .urpalhal#0000 nah that didn't do it [01-Oct-24 09:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 wait [01-Oct-24 09:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 do I have to hit buy in the buffer with the COF in it? [01-Oct-24 09:50 PM] .urpalhal#0000 it just inputs price and amount? I can't do it from the action package buffer? [01-Oct-24 09:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 oh yep [01-Oct-24 09:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 not as handy as i thought it would be [01-Oct-24 09:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 well it worked kinda [01-Oct-24 09:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 It should move the button there [01-Oct-24 09:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 But itโ€™s not worked all the time for me either [01-Oct-24 09:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I only use it for loading ships, but I think it does the buy too. I think for purchases you need an CXPO open for each thing you can buy, is that correct? [01-Oct-24 09:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, you need a CXPO for each and it'll move the buy button to the window [01-Oct-24 09:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 yeah I needed a CXPO for each [01-Oct-24 09:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 but it's buggy sometimes [01-Oct-24 09:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 but it was buggy when I was trying to transfer stuff [01-Oct-24 09:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 but yeah i only blew like 1 mil [01-Oct-24 09:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 nbd [01-Oct-24 10:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 but hey at least I didn't have to alt tab 980135317 times to buy all the food and stuff for my vulcan base with like all the pops on it [01-Oct-24 10:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 so the lesson of this excursion is become a dragon [01-Oct-24 10:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 hoard everything at ANT [01-Oct-24 10:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 never buy anything from the cx again [02-Oct-24 02:34 AM] mrsmith33#0000 25k {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [02-Oct-24 02:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1291119464531886091/image.png?ex=68151cb4&is=6813cb34&hm=e0f01527fbc196ac7305ca41582f8b7d8ba52d34c15790ff901f163e8b382f43& [02-Oct-24 02:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 You print fast ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Oct-24 02:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 16 Printers + 5 experts ๐Ÿ˜… [02-Oct-24 02:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll get you the contracts over tonight, got caught up with work [02-Oct-24 02:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 No problem just letting you know it's on it's way [02-Oct-24 02:45 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 How to you split your inv like that? [02-Oct-24 02:45 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Click BRN at the top [02-Oct-24 10:12 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Does anyone know why the BSE price suddenly spiked this month? [02-Oct-24 10:15 PM] marat_sh#0000 The production was ~ the same as consuption, when someone bought more then production... price stuck at the the point where people bought it last time [02-Oct-24 10:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 since there is no additional production we are back at ~ the consuption [02-Oct-24 10:18 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I'm aware of the macroeconomic principles of supply and demand, I was just surprised that such a common commodity would be susceptible to supply/demand shocks. [02-Oct-24 10:19 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I was wondering if perhaps someone had a big project or something [02-Oct-24 10:19 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Because the the price had been remarkably stable for the past six months [02-Oct-24 10:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 probably people use for their own projects and don't sell it on CX as often [02-Oct-24 10:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 it also happens when there is not a lot of producers (less competition) [02-Oct-24 10:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 Basically everything in Prun is susceptible to those shocks ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Oct-24 10:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Most of the bfabs, including BSE has been at their price ceiling for a while (like more than a year) [02-Oct-24 10:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 The BSE price ceiling (the MM price) was raised recently [02-Oct-24 10:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 So it went from one ceiling to another [02-Oct-24 10:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 95% sure about that [02-Oct-24 10:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 oh yeah bfabs were changed as well in balance patch [04-Oct-24 09:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 hate it when this happens ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1291764653700939866/image.png?ex=6814d295&is=68138115&hm=daf32af56aef4839ff4009c119b7dac2b6d9d79039f35113ce1404127961741f& [04-Oct-24 09:15 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1291765565626777701/95mrsq.png?ex=6814d36e&is=681381ee&hm=09cf7e67914b234a09b2d93d0ff380d2c9cb647e5d4f7b8099cc8e4102f92978& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (3) [04-Oct-24 08:17 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 That makes sense now [05-Oct-24 03:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 @shinonomesciences has completed the trial period! Welcome! Looks like you already got your corp invite ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [05-Oct-24 04:27 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-duta-gif-18637300 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-duta-gif-18637300 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/VBMDeZYeXNnoHr2tuknVlK_X3oeYFNY1hPar8cRHvJM/https/media.tenor.com/pa-u1_iz4dsAAAAe/welcome-duta.png [06-Oct-24 05:20 AM] max.kalina#0000 And what about me?๐Ÿ™ˆ [06-Oct-24 09:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oops, oh no! [06-Oct-24 09:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 I set your color but I must have forgotten to send an invite [06-Oct-24 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 It is sent now [06-Oct-24 10:01 AM] max.kalina#0000 @archielvahr thanks! Accepted it!๐Ÿ™ƒ [06-Oct-24 10:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://tenor.com/nI0tCAnui1H.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-gif-11382574909452259207 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zhkigiOltQi9rmXZXlYehzfOkuW9s-CNN0UvlcY_H2U/https/media.tenor.com/nfcHkpstD4cAAAAe/welcome.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ ๐ŸŸก [06-Oct-24 10:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 I did some webpage updates, there is a draft of a page for the ADI gateway cooperative with some rules: [06-Oct-24 10:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/adi-gateway-cooperative/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/adi-gateway-cooperative/ ADI Gateway Cooperative | OOG Capital Management The ADI Gateway cooperative is a regional organization dedicated to the construction and operation of a gateway network. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mbZ_dki_BooFwq7JxIKLRGrrCM38r8xVFua3aJGj76E/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/gateway-okay-narrow.png [06-Oct-24 10:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 And after chatting with @akyantor I decided to split up the "new player guide" he wrote into a few separate articles, to make them easier to read: [06-Oct-24 10:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/ Shareholders | OOG Capital Management For shareholding members of OOG https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hiivP5cQuGcN5YAYcXAZ5Xbe3mBuCboUTM6cXdvWudM/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/OOGOpenGraph.png [07-Oct-24 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 I swear what I read in the devlogs sounds like something I could crank out in a single morning [07-Oct-24 09:10 AM] hernanduer#0000 like 80% of the time [07-Oct-24 09:15 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yeah, assuming iteration time in their codebase is sane [07-Oct-24 09:26 AM] melon164#0000 Don't underestimate the fact that as CEO of an indie game studio with two active playerbases, marketing strategies, and roadmaps, plus the broader overhead of financial policies, investment reports, grant applications, infrastructure maintenance and general shit-shovelling, one morning a week's actual development time is probably about right ๐Ÿ˜ญ [07-Oct-24 09:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 I was under the impression martin did most of the business stuff [07-Oct-24 09:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 and is also mostly dealing with airlinesim [07-Oct-24 09:30 AM] akyantor#0000 If you're charitable it would seem that they're only getting 1 day of solid focused work on new build dev a week, based on the average dev blog. [07-Oct-24 09:36 AM] akyantor#0000 That said, there's probably a bunch of unseen work when you have such a small team, responding the support messages, infra maintenance (if they're not using managed services etc.), billing issues etc. [07-Oct-24 09:40 AM] zipatsu#0000 I think the solution is creating a third game: Spaceship sim, and then merge Spaceship sim & Airline sim into PrUn. The Airline sim players can be responsible for moving the cargo from bases to a warehouse zone somewhere on the planet from which the Spaceship sim players load it up before moving to other planets / CX's, you can then choose to pay the premium to get proper qualified players hauling your cargo or try to save some credits at the risk of BobThePilot crashing into the treeline (potential idea for a 4th game based around cargo recovery right there โœŒ๏ธ ) {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (4) [07-Oct-24 09:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah honestly I wouldn't be at all surprised if you only get half a day of work in on PRUN, maybe half a day on airline sim [07-Oct-24 10:58 AM] allocater#0000 wow, did not know it gets this crazy {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1292878753914949652/image.png?ex=6814ebab&is=68139a2b&hm=02fad6f25341c747d61a914a3e6d5a97ab1976ec8ce6ea5d0f451eb6fced2de2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ (2) [07-Oct-24 12:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's a lot of ships [07-Oct-24 12:29 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 nice transfer orbits ๐Ÿš€ [07-Oct-24 07:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 looks like im more profitable not playing! [07-Oct-24 07:33 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1293008224676614176/image.png?ex=6814bb7f&is=681369ff&hm=2307054058b1a29ce5b83681f7b340d8001079c4589a7f55af7c2f898386d2f7& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ [07-Oct-24 07:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 you can't loose money if you don't spend them [07-Oct-24 07:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vMFI2REZQX5pgA5Bp84noQhVkwv1h51HrSktxKoFvAM/https/media.tenor.com/6Ju_FlRfSGUAAAAe/tkt-smart.png [07-Oct-24 07:34 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 made alot of loans during this time [07-Oct-24 07:34 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i guess alot of the gains are from that [07-Oct-24 07:53 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 100 mil net worth in 110 days when factoring HQ and Ships. Cant say im not proud [07-Oct-24 09:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 Amazing ๐Ÿฅน [07-Oct-24 09:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am taking it nice and slow ~6 mil net worth in 75 days [08-Oct-24 09:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1293212407908401172/DE38F2BA-4DBA-4FB3-8546-BC7F093524FB.jpg?ex=6814d0e8&is=68137f68&hm=f464cae7744e1f379ee6198bc47efa28fc1a5ac966878daacb6835fbaa879898& [08-Oct-24 09:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 I donโ€™t think I am going to be active next few days [08-Oct-24 09:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 Good luck everyone ๐Ÿซก [08-Oct-24 09:06 AM] sidepipe#0000 Stay safe! [08-Oct-24 10:35 AM] hernanduer#0000 Good luck, I'd take the rain if the weather ever behaves ๐Ÿฅฒ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1293235436990238731/image.png?ex=6814e65b&is=681394db&hm=9bd0f4a0483ef07236a8ef18acbd2ca3e0179cba565aab79dd77c7e16c795c6c& [08-Oct-24 10:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 Is there any demand for SCA recepies? Or should I continue expanding printers? [08-Oct-24 10:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 SCA has heavy vertical integration I think [08-Oct-24 11:06 AM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah In that case I will just expand printers and textiles [08-Oct-24 04:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Does anyone would like to free up their permits from PPFs? [08-Oct-24 05:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 If this BWS thing goes well, Iโ€™d definitely be interested in outsourcing ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Oct-24 05:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 But itโ€™s gonna take some time before I know for sure if itโ€™s going well [10-Oct-24 08:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 Hurricane is gone... I am alive ๐Ÿซก {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ (7) โค๏ธ (3) [10-Oct-24 09:50 AM] zipatsu#0000 Good to hear you made it out alright โœŒ๏ธ [10-Oct-24 12:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, hopefully not too much damage, sounds bad ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [11-Oct-24 06:30 PM] xtc69#0000 is there a way to make this bigger ? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1294442116256104479/image.png?ex=6814acea&is=68135b6a&hm=0425a00348cd9cd3f730c64f0261d2df5e36d9e6a630e07a6aba8aba0703ad75& [11-Oct-24 06:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep, you can build the STO building for extra base storage [11-Oct-24 06:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I usually put one on each base, two if I'm doing something really heavy [11-Oct-24 07:33 PM] xtc69#0000 Yeah I did not think it would be heavy haha ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [12-Oct-24 09:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 if anyone needs TSH, I'm making 9/d lol [12-Oct-24 09:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 so feel free to just send contracts at 23k/u [12-Oct-24 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 I also have 11k HE3 on ANT if anyone needs some, 10K is on the CX ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Oct-24 09:57 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'd auction it but I'm only aware of Neth running REFs (and he orders when he needs it) [12-Oct-24 02:37 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It's odd to me that there's no way to sell shipping capacity in the game {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [12-Oct-24 02:38 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Surely it'd make inter-CX trading much more efficient if you could post an ad on the local market selling volume/weight on a ship leaving and arriving on a specified date [12-Oct-24 02:42 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, I'd probably use shipping more frequently if you can make a single local market order with multiple goods. [12-Oct-24 04:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm noticing there doesn't seem to be a ton of demand for DDT in-corp right now. I'm considering switching my LABs over to something else for a while - is there anything folks need / would buy internally if it were available? [12-Oct-24 04:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I have 100 days of DDT on Harmonia [12-Oct-24 04:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have well over 2k DDT in stock right now ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Oct-24 04:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 it moves reasonably well on the CX, but definitely not at the quantities I make it at. so if anyone happens to need LAB products, give me a shout [12-Oct-24 04:47 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'm also producing way more DDT than i can use. what would be good alternative LAB products? [12-Oct-24 04:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 I assume TCL and NR would probably find some use from anyone making rfabs / afabs [12-Oct-24 04:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am expanding my textiles So there will be some use for TCL ๐Ÿ˜… [12-Oct-24 04:51 PM] marat_sh#0000 BUT I don't consume that much There is enough on CX so far [12-Oct-24 08:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 in other news, I just passed 100M in cash ๐Ÿ™‚ [12-Oct-24 08:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1294829808311730206/image.png?ex=6814c47b&is=681372fb&hm=c361783a85ea6934ac9d3a9753befbf217ff25db30814351bf2d605ecf2ce546& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) ๐Ÿ˜‹ [12-Oct-24 08:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 too bad most of it is imaginary money [12-Oct-24 08:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 Too much imaginary money ๐Ÿซ  [12-Oct-24 08:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 well, I guess it's really all imaginary money. but most of it is NCC, which is worse ๐Ÿ˜„ [13-Oct-24 01:02 AM] allocater#0000 time to deposit in the bank and double dip on the printer profits? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [13-Oct-24 04:49 AM] melon164#0000 I would buy an essentially unlimited amount of TCL {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [13-Oct-24 08:38 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 the internal price for TCL is 1500 to 1700. is this still correct? [13-Oct-24 08:39 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i posted a few buy orders for a HQ upgrade over at #hq-upgrades [13-Oct-24 03:00 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Someone is doing some insane price gouging with ZIR right now ๐Ÿฅฒ [13-Oct-24 03:07 PM] melon164#0000 Do you need some? I have loads on KI-840c [13-Oct-24 03:07 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh really? Yes, I'd love some [13-Oct-24 03:09 PM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™ve got 500, send for however many you need [13-Oct-24 03:09 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 How much do you want per unit? [13-Oct-24 03:11 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I sent you a draft at 400/u if that's acceptable [13-Oct-24 03:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 That was me Nano ... I wasnt really trying to sell any ๐Ÿ™‚ Cuz I dont produce it. That's why it appears as a gouge; just storing it there. [13-Oct-24 03:16 PM] tuffyless#0000 If you want to, we can undo that CX trans. [13-Oct-24 03:47 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh no, it's ok. I needed ZIR immediately, and you were the only seller, so that's business. If you want to store it, should should price it higher next time. ๐Ÿ˜… [13-Oct-24 03:52 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean I bought everything that was normally priced {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [13-Oct-24 04:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 Hmmm I just adjusted my ZIR out to get the BRM needed for all the REA, maybe I should add it back ๐Ÿค” [13-Oct-24 07:56 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 id dont know where iv been to not see it yet but only shit FF [14-Oct-24 02:37 AM] melon164#0000 Thatโ€™s fine. I got Fulfilment Attempted trying to deliver. [14-Oct-24 12:31 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I forgot to rent a warehouse, could you try again? [14-Oct-24 01:34 PM] melon164#0000 Still fails. Do you have enough space for the whole lot? If not youโ€™ll need to divide it up [14-Oct-24 01:37 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It turns out I can't physically buy enough warehouse space on the planet for all of it, so I sent another contract for 200 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Oct-24 01:37 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Will ask for the rest one I can get a ship there [14-Oct-24 03:23 PM] melon164#0000 You still wonโ€™t be able to receive more than can fit in the warehouse, as you canโ€™t receive to a ship [14-Oct-24 03:23 PM] melon164#0000 So send for the rest in two contracts when youโ€™re ready [14-Oct-24 03:57 PM] mrsmith33#0000 How fresh is planet tracker tab in the sheet? It says `6/26/2024` [14-Oct-24 04:01 PM] akyantor#0000 It's a little stale as it reports I have 10 bases, but I currently have 19. I think from memory the script that collects the data is tricky to run as it needs to make a load of FIO api calls, which often fail. [14-Oct-24 04:18 PM] xtc69#0000 is there a quicker way to open trade tab ? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295495871877742694/image.png?ex=68148dcd&is=68133c4d&hm=686b7e3c8dde99dffd585a553b37a0d557129ec025077b7d7a2479dce28ef70e& [14-Oct-24 04:18 PM] xtc69#0000 takes 3 clicks ? or am i doing it wrong ? [14-Oct-24 04:18 PM] xtc69#0000 from the burn section ? [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 honestly I usually type `CXPO DW.AI1` [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think I'm weird, or the devs never expect people to do that [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] marat_sh#0000 one click for me {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295496212748963950/image.png?ex=68148e1e&is=68133c9e&hm=fcbcf5b4dc3d303c2ac76d2278303d9cf58e188e82d400a4b3b24d4c06bdabcf& [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] xtc69#0000 but you guys know each thing right ? [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 I never learned which page all my stuff is, cause you still gotta use the drop down to find the page [14-Oct-24 04:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 I know em all ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Oct-24 04:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, just remember them [14-Oct-24 04:20 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah my noob self sucks lol [14-Oct-24 04:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you can memorize all the pokemon, you can memorize all the MATs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [14-Oct-24 04:20 PM] xtc69#0000 haha me lol yeah just need to start learning them more lol [14-Oct-24 04:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 you will get used to it the more you play [14-Oct-24 04:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 I use `mat RAT` and look at what category the item is [14-Oct-24 04:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 if I don't remember [14-Oct-24 04:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 But generally you probably only need the basics when you are starting. RAT, DW, OVE, COF, PWO for pioneers. Then on Demios you have your ore, flux and metal. Probably only need like 10 for your first base [14-Oct-24 04:22 PM] katinga#0000 Here then! Have fun! No cheating! https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/pokemon {Embed} https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/pokemon 151 Original Pokรฉmon Can you name the 151 Pokรฉmon from the first generation? https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oMjBMOMNHhAxc5pIkCIWmlI9ijzpauV7ZbpLVTBvg5w/%3Fv%3D1668724855/https/d31xsmoz1lk3y3.cloudfront.net/big/119.jpg [14-Oct-24 04:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 ^ You will see same items over and over and will just remember them [14-Oct-24 04:23 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah ahhaa [14-Oct-24 04:23 PM] katinga#0000 these are harder than you think! [14-Oct-24 04:26 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-7601197640735809486 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-7601197640735809486 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SxqfwfUwJXACwfKt4SysgxC3YsFwRsHF64VDxNpYM8Q/https/media.tenor.com/aXzg-zuYX84AAAAe/dodgewrench-dodgeball.png [14-Oct-24 04:29 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Gotta pump those afabs faster {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295498676869009521/image.png?ex=68149069&is=68133ee9&hm=7e9d65b39c8b3e5451cf3d820cfa7d636c801b26cf362c19e33dbd217c97c9f4& [14-Oct-24 04:30 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Pretty close on that one {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295499059422957649/image.png?ex=681490c4&is=68133f44&hm=f746e3937cbc7d42133303f874ee83eebc0523e06607aea2b716ca6d18e4a06d& [14-Oct-24 04:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 They are very stale because 1) FIO doesn't report activity any more and 2) only I can update the sheet because it takes a ton of App Scripts to run, and I run it on my machine, but won't subject anyone else to the app scripts by adding them to the corp sheet {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Œ [14-Oct-24 04:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 it would be nice to have better activity info, but until the new FIO api is more complete, I think we are stuck [14-Oct-24 04:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 (The new API does sorta work though!) [14-Oct-24 04:41 PM] akyantor#0000 Is there public documentation somewhere for the new FIO APIs? [14-Oct-24 04:54 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I just found out NCC is extremely illiquid after selling almost a million worth of stuff ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} โ” [14-Oct-24 04:55 PM] katinga#0000 NCC is only useful on Federation ships [14-Oct-24 04:56 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Yeah, I thought I was being smart by shipping my stuff out to there for a better price [14-Oct-24 04:56 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean itโ€™s not a bad idea by any means [14-Oct-24 04:57 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Does anyone know anecdotally how long it takes for someone to fill the FXPO order? [14-Oct-24 04:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 You can just trade NCC for AIC with someone here if you want [14-Oct-24 04:58 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh, you can do that? [14-Oct-24 04:58 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah [14-Oct-24 04:58 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Is there channel for it? [14-Oct-24 04:58 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Try the bank channel and just say you would like to change X NCC for AIC [14-Oct-24 04:59 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Ah, thank you [14-Oct-24 07:50 PM] xtc69#0000 So i rented more spots but my weight not upgrading or volume {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295549271055269888/image.png?ex=6814bf88&is=68136e08&hm=f8cd1dc2ad13a5ffc39507e415f4e3a65fc9d93d6323ea671578a3fc503f25b8& [14-Oct-24 08:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 it does [14-Oct-24 08:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 at the bottom [14-Oct-24 08:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 you now have 2 rented units [14-Oct-24 08:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 1000/1000 [14-Oct-24 09:02 PM] xtc69#0000 so i need to buy 7 of them ? to uopgrade ANT II [14-Oct-24 09:02 PM] xtc69#0000 not ANT 1 [14-Oct-24 09:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 well You have a lot of AL stored on Deimos [14-Oct-24 09:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 you porbably want to ship it to ANT [14-Oct-24 09:03 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah was going to upgrade just incase haha [14-Oct-24 09:03 PM] xtc69#0000 i am got two ships coming been behind on my load transfer cause of work lol [14-Oct-24 09:03 PM] xtc69#0000 was going to see if i can upgrade it haha [14-Oct-24 09:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295567717583159306/image.png?ex=6814d0b6&is=68137f36&hm=1900a70b29460bed13f5e16b5d27a6451c5c9222534f5ec27b25353961809a3c& [14-Oct-24 09:03 PM] marat_sh#0000 so on deimos Warehouses upgraded up to 6 lvls for players [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 1 lvl = 500m3/500t [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 you have 2 lvls [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 1000/1000 [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] xtc69#0000 i upgrade more maybe not understanding my question or i am being a noob lol [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 if you get all 6 lvls you get 3000/3000 storage [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 well it's not really upgrading [14-Oct-24 09:04 PM] marat_sh#0000 you are renting more lvls [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] xtc69#0000 lvl 6 still has not change {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295568079870492753/image.png?ex=6814d10c&is=68137f8c&hm=bd467541561e9460d79864b04b7ce494bbea69fe62477a15cbf85fe6470a775c& [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 huh [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] xtc69#0000 or is my warehouse storage different ? [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 okay don't do that [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 you don't need to upgrade [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's a planet warehouse [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's for governers to upgrade [14-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 you can rent the upgraded lvls [14-Oct-24 09:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 don't contribute to upgrades unless you get paid for it [14-Oct-24 09:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 now press 'open storage' button [14-Oct-24 09:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 and transfer there some of your AL [14-Oct-24 09:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 to free up space [14-Oct-24 09:08 PM] xtc69#0000 where the open storage button ? [14-Oct-24 09:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 yes the warehouse storage is separate window. Press 'open store' to open that window and transfer there [14-Oct-24 09:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295568988624912384/image.png?ex=6814d1e5&is=68138065&hm=932b79bc8dd55eb83579c2d96b8d4c99ba513213fba01ed409a6fe22329b5333& [14-Oct-24 09:08 PM] xtc69#0000 hahah so different window lol {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1295569071647228026/image.png?ex=6814d1f9&is=68138079&hm=fd28c919067e78d45f90cd740966aa22c49e958a0c040bc402f5cd3ff37e4260& [14-Oct-24 09:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 yep [14-Oct-24 09:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 transfer there [14-Oct-24 09:09 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah i feel dumb lol [14-Oct-24 09:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 don't worry We all start somewhere {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’— [14-Oct-24 09:10 PM] xtc69#0000 tyty i forgot about the button [14-Oct-24 09:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 if gonna have problems with logistics You can ask people from ADI for help [14-Oct-24 09:11 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah might have to [14-Oct-24 09:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 shipping is not that expancive if you can't keep up [14-Oct-24 09:11 PM] xtc69#0000 should i do 100% fuel ? [14-Oct-24 09:11 PM] xtc69#0000 cause i do 12hr + [14-Oct-24 09:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 sometimes I burn a bit more then 100 units of fuel just to be in time constrains [14-Oct-24 09:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 I synced my ships at 9am and 9pm so what ever fuel it takes to get in time [14-Oct-24 09:13 PM] xtc69#0000 yeah i might have to push my ships a bit to get 2 travesl a day [14-Oct-24 09:13 PM] xtc69#0000 I have been traveling, only 1 time a day [15-Oct-24 02:36 PM] mrsmith33#0000 [15-Oct-24 02:36 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Still looking for H [15-Oct-24 02:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am just gonna wait if someone auctions it... I also need H but it's 160/u right now [15-Oct-24 02:57 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I can take H on Ant IIg [16-Oct-24 04:32 AM] akyantor#0000 https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Qip_0KABYc2Plzxv4dpQ1MnkPaa_KvYPTR0w8A5u1oU/https/media.tenor.com/-kZOB16tELEAAAAe/this-is-fine-fire.png [16-Oct-24 04:32 AM] akyantor#0000 ๐Ÿ‘† inevitable [16-Oct-24 04:32 AM] akyantor#0000 I didn't want to give me ships any orders before work anyway! [16-Oct-24 06:33 AM] katinga#0000 Anyone else unable to send their ships anywhere? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1296073520610152509/image.png?ex=6814ad87&is=68135c07&hm=99f504b6783dedc2232670f7926d199687ff701a123dae5404fe7ba2af7d6c7a& [16-Oct-24 06:37 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 seems to be everyone [16-Oct-24 06:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 bad space weather today [16-Oct-24 07:34 AM] akyantor#0000 Oh dear, a restart appears to have made it worse rather than better. You could have previously accessed the market at least slowly.. not I get a red screen of doom [16-Oct-24 07:59 AM] sidepipe#0000 I canโ€™t log in at all right now - guess itโ€™s time for a Prun vacation ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Oct-24 08:03 AM] akyantor#0000 Molp is online and looking at it [16-Oct-24 08:21 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Works now [16-Oct-24 02:35 PM] akyantor#0000 DW about to go to the moon. Jumped up to almost 100/u {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1296194849334366270/image.png?ex=68151e86&is=6813cd06&hm=15579789d574791a019436815aa68ad6eb2ef53bc2ebc355dcb545dc48f6bf99& [16-Oct-24 02:35 PM] akyantor#0000 A connection with the drought? [16-Oct-24 02:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 Probably - I donโ€™t think the increased water price has been priced in to DW yet [16-Oct-24 02:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s a great day to have my own vertically integrated water factory ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Oct-24 02:57 PM] akyantor#0000 I don't think so either, but then I'd bet a lot of folks who sell DW are vertically integrated. [16-Oct-24 02:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, good point [16-Oct-24 03:14 PM] zipatsu#0000 ๐ŸŒŠ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1296204629838921728/image.png?ex=681527a2&is=6813d622&hm=d61e33a54f3b53608f76cfacb773eb78f3f21e38c007cfb53d340129615ddcf8& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [16-Oct-24 03:17 PM] akyantor#0000 The ~~spice~~ water must flow. [16-Oct-24 03:18 PM] zipatsu#0000 *Lisan al Glug* ๐Ÿšฐ [16-Oct-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 do we have SIL consumers? if yes how much are you consiming per day? [16-Oct-24 03:28 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I only consumed 4 LC out of my 40 LC batch I once did. So, not much [16-Oct-24 03:29 PM] marat_sh#0000 Cool! I am gonna start drooping some SIL on CX soon if anyone interested [16-Oct-24 04:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 Demand is super low, SCI just don't consume that many [16-Oct-24 04:29 PM] hernanduer#0000 WS is even worse somehow lol [16-Oct-24 04:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 even better I can probably supply multiple bases of CLF [16-Oct-24 04:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I made like 10 silk once and it took 2 years to sell [16-Oct-24 04:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ’€ I am making 100 SIL [16-Oct-24 04:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 maybe bigger volume encourage people to buy instead of make [16-Oct-24 04:57 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I could buy 7 SIL/day off you, how much are you selling it for? [16-Oct-24 05:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 currently 4800/u on CX [16-Oct-24 05:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Carbon shenanigans occured [16-Oct-24 05:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1296231885240008734/image.png?ex=68149844&is=681346c4&hm=2c8e7aa635e6822097cbe78316a63e92ebfabfffb5d097d1812e48427cd9a2a3& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ (2) ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [16-Oct-24 05:04 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I love demand shocks... [16-Oct-24 05:05 PM] akyantor#0000 And the people on the UFO server don't think we've warfare... economic incursion on the CX. ๐Ÿ˜› [16-Oct-24 05:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 let me know if it's too high [16-Oct-24 05:09 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Do you have any more on you? I'll buy 49 off of you at 4600? [16-Oct-24 05:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 not at the moment I am testing water if there was a demand [16-Oct-24 05:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 I will have 25 on CX in 2 hours [16-Oct-24 05:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am producing only like ~5/d [16-Oct-24 05:15 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I'll buy all your supply if it's around 4600 [16-Oct-24 05:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Can you place a BID? I want to make this market moving [16-Oct-24 05:17 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Sure [16-Oct-24 05:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'd list my C stocks below theirs if I made any of my own ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Oct-24 05:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 the more I look into it the less appealing SIL is... at 4600/u I will be making ~ 9k a day ๐Ÿ’€ as a reference I make ~45k a day from PSMs at 2000/u [16-Oct-24 05:36 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 What price would you sell it at? [16-Oct-24 05:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 it's not a price problem it's the volume [16-Oct-24 05:38 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Yeah, that figures [16-Oct-24 05:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 If I would make 20/d That would be 90k+ per day ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ’ต at 4600/u [16-Oct-24 05:40 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It's really capital intensive to produce that much RSI [16-Oct-24 05:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 yeap... problem that it's only used in one thing and that one thing is not traded in big volumes [16-Oct-24 05:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 nvm I'm dumb... it's ~38k per day [16-Oct-24 05:56 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Also, Jean Paul Marat is a very interesting choice of username [16-Oct-24 05:57 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Are you planning a reign of terror of some planet's parliment? ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [16-Oct-24 05:57 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/hi-maybe-perhaps-uh-huh-gif-24820475 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/hi-maybe-perhaps-uh-huh-gif-24820475 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qYSfDiI2kaWC1QID3eL6Fw726yX4m6FAwQSIcr_aFkM/https/media.tenor.com/jTFgv2adaH4AAAAe/hi-maybe.png [16-Oct-24 05:58 PM] marat_sh#0000 My IRL name is Marat ๐Ÿ˜… + I was fascinated with French revolution while back [16-Oct-24 05:59 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 That makes a lot of sense [16-Oct-24 06:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 to be on par with my other incomes SIL is good enough at 5k/u BUT we gotta start somewhere first ๐Ÿ˜… [16-Oct-24 06:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 I also see an issue since I've bought RSI at 2500/u when costs ~800/u to make ๐Ÿ’€ [16-Oct-24 10:51 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 How costly is it to get technicians on a brand new planet? [16-Oct-24 10:52 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I'm wondering if the cost of infrastructure would be prohibitively expensive [16-Oct-24 11:02 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh never mind that is a horrific price tag [17-Oct-24 12:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's not awful, but for a whole new planet you are looking at a few mil (COGC, SST, INF, and esp the ADM) [17-Oct-24 12:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 But if you like to travel and want to try a new planet, check out the #project-6115 planets ๐Ÿ˜‰ [17-Oct-24 12:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 But until you have a lot more bases, you will probably find everything you need around ANT, which is a more responsible approach ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Oct-24 12:04 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1297243888666542201/image.png?ex=6814fb04&is=6813a984&hm=7c0326189360ae4ad07bd49e77eb462ae1e5fb6f0d6d1df20c74f4f83cb1ae72& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1297243888922267668/image.png?ex=6814fb04&is=6813a984&hm=52d4b1a205c65036cbf84d1a02770127440ae9e6219701e34573bba9b7ca0cba& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [19-Oct-24 04:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 woo ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Oct-24 04:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah they get expensive right around here, haha ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Oct-24 10:10 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 In the financial overview, what's the difference between current assets and equity? [19-Oct-24 11:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 if you mean this one - Equity = Fixed + Current + Liquid - Liabilities {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1297412590607274054/image.png?ex=6814ef62&is=68139de2&hm=a2213cbac0d1a2364fe87f6bb1d4b563a0bbc682947f6237569967d6b79c69c1& [19-Oct-24 11:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 And then current assets are the value of all the inventory you have, vs liquid which is cash and fixed which is just building values I believe [19-Oct-24 11:17 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Ah thank, that makes a lot of sense [19-Oct-24 11:18 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It's weird that your screen shows profit, but mine says "result," which is much more ambiguous [19-Oct-24 11:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, that is odd ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Oct-24 11:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do you play in another language? [19-Oct-24 11:27 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Nope, just plain old modern American english ๐Ÿฆ… ๐Ÿฆ… ๐Ÿฆ… [19-Oct-24 11:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1297415981831946253/image.png?ex=6814f28a&is=6813a10a&hm=08f83579f5b4724fe3764308d6a585ff6800321cca257d2dbc1de6bde0956ce0& [19-Oct-24 11:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 xit vs fin [19-Oct-24 11:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 Ah, thatโ€™s why [19-Oct-24 11:28 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh, I didn't know there was a difference [19-Oct-24 11:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 I thought your English was just more modern than mine ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Oct-24 11:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I like XIT FIN more - I think it handles the values more accurately [19-Oct-24 11:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have no proof for this, I just think it [19-Oct-24 11:31 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 That's terribly odd {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1297416920374448138/Screenshot_2024-10-19_at_21.31.20.png?ex=6814f36a&is=6813a1ea&hm=51838b195210f302c9f686d6efec25dcc894e3238623a20a77d0079aa1f9bb37& [19-Oct-24 11:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 try reloading [19-Oct-24 11:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 sometimes it does that [19-Oct-24 11:33 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Nope, still neon screen of death [19-Oct-24 11:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 Is it case-sensitive? [19-Oct-24 11:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 I just type xit fin in the buffer [19-Oct-24 11:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 and select summary [19-Oct-24 11:35 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I just cannot find this page for whatever reason [19-Oct-24 11:35 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I don't think I've ever seen it before [19-Oct-24 11:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 Okay, dumb question - do you have PMMG extended installed? [19-Oct-24 11:43 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh, is that why? [19-Oct-24 11:43 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I do not lmao [19-Oct-24 11:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 that would do it [19-Oct-24 11:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 I only just now realized - the XIT command is in the base game, the extension just uses that to bring in its own stuff [19-Oct-24 11:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Anyway, it is life changing and you should install it ๐Ÿ™‚ [19-Oct-24 11:46 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I certainly will [19-Oct-24 11:47 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I wish developers are more proactive in integrating widely used auxiliary functions [19-Oct-24 11:47 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 All the games I play come with a set of โ€œmust haveโ€ mods [19-Oct-24 11:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I get that. I love this game, but they definitely havenโ€™t made QoL a priority ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Oct-24 12:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 They have kind of said: "well if it's in a plugin, we should spend our time on things they can't put into plugins" [20-Oct-24 12:05 AM] sidepipe#0000 It makes sense from the devโ€™s perspective, I think. If you have limited time, why spend it rebuilding what someone else already built that works? [20-Oct-24 12:05 AM] marat_sh#0000 a lot of devs embrace the fact that people can fix and improve stuff for free [20-Oct-24 12:08 AM] sidepipe#0000 At some point I feel like it becomes a technical debt pit that you just canโ€™t dig out of. But thatโ€™s more just personal philosophy than an actual complaint with the game - I still play it, after all ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Oct-24 09:36 AM] hernanduer#0000 when did Shrewdsun1 leave? [20-Oct-24 09:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 He left the corp tag a few months ago so he could make one for his investment thingy he was doing, but he's still "in" OOG [20-Oct-24 09:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 oh okay [20-Oct-24 09:39 AM] hernanduer#0000 I must've missed that conversation [20-Oct-24 03:32 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 the difference can be huge, my XIT equity is 100mil, my PRUN equity is -6 mil [20-Oct-24 04:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah mine are 10x different from eachother too [21-Oct-24 12:11 AM] darjaves#0000 I have 6 milj i can give to someone. I don't need it. [21-Oct-24 12:12 AM] darjaves#0000 Maybe a covernor or the corp needs it? [21-Oct-24 12:16 AM] darjaves#0000 Just send me a contract with what money you need, i only accept if you also have noted me here, no payback needed. [21-Oct-24 12:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 You can put it in the bank if you might want to use it later, otherwise maybe thereโ€™s a new member who wants some fast cash ๐Ÿ˜ [21-Oct-24 10:04 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 i give 2% weekly through shrewdbank deposits if that something that interests you [21-Oct-24 12:54 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Iโ€™ll take half if nobody else needs it more {Reactions} โœ… [21-Oct-24 01:14 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Thanks [22-Oct-24 10:05 AM] hernanduer#0000 posted some random stuff on auctions that I've been building up and haven't bothered to CX [22-Oct-24 10:06 AM] hernanduer#0000 I also have like 10k each of MAI/VEG/ALG [22-Oct-24 10:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 I've just noticed... Was I selling COT to your BID on CX? ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Oct-24 10:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 hah, no, all mine is manufactured by Kalleria(tm) [22-Oct-24 10:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 oh It might have been allocator then [22-Oct-24 04:39 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I hope devs announce a sale for pro license soon, because my will run out in 2 weeks (bought it on Halloween sale last year) [22-Oct-24 06:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 might need a couple full price months to get to the christmas sale [22-Oct-24 06:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 mine reups in March so I'm always screwed :/ [22-Oct-24 08:34 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 The planet I'm on has enough skilled unemployed labor to meet my base's needs, but I still don't have enough workers [22-Oct-24 08:35 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Does this get remedied during the next population phase? [22-Oct-24 10:18 PM] hernanduer#0000 right, between POPRs only 10% of the unemployed pool is available for immediate use {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Oct-24 01:25 PM] max.kalina#0000 I would like also to receive a part of this money for my development of some resource bases in ANT space๐Ÿ™ˆ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [23-Oct-24 04:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 @shinonomesciences if you gonna need more SIL I am posting them on CX [24-Oct-24 12:15 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 I canโ€™t buy any more because the price of HDs is so high that itโ€™s actually unprofitable for me to produce LCs, which uses the SIL [24-Oct-24 01:20 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 I just installed PMMG, but how do I set it up? [24-Oct-24 01:20 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 When I type XIT START into the buffer, I get the green screen of death [24-Oct-24 01:22 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh nevermind, I just had to reload [24-Oct-24 06:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 Thatโ€™s the reason I didnโ€™t go for clothing factory myself yet ๐Ÿ˜… gotta have MCA first [24-Oct-24 08:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299177246342516756/image.png?ex=6814c359&is=681371d9&hm=057ffaf6e60ccba607616bf856186035ffd23d4a0f189156ff00910d7b3cbab6& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [24-Oct-24 08:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 I produce a small amount of spare HD - Iโ€™ll auction them here once I have a reasonable amount {Reactions} โค๏ธ [24-Oct-24 08:39 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I just realized the market for LCs is absurdly tiny {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299185454532530246/Screenshot_2024-10-24_at_18.38.38.png?ex=6814cafe&is=6813797e&hm=59177904f08399beccfd922470687b4c8a7f937d37c7280cc938698d285bab6f& [24-Oct-24 08:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 I make EXO? I wonder what planet is doing that lol [24-Oct-24 08:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 Bober? ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Oct-24 09:01 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I've been mildly surpised by an errant stash of Bfabs before, but to forget about a whole production line is truly a different perspective {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [25-Oct-24 09:45 AM] hernanduer#0000 When an old member left about 1.5 years ago, he gave me 300 LC. I have an EEP and dozen SL and I still have 118 LC [25-Oct-24 09:46 AM] hernanduer#0000 I've never bought any LC [25-Oct-24 10:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 Consumption for LC is 0.2 per 100 SCI ๐Ÿ‘€ And you barely have any SCI in your bases [25-Oct-24 10:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 We do happen to run a bunch of IDC bases though ๐Ÿ˜ [25-Oct-24 10:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 you probably have your own LC production for that ๐Ÿ˜… [25-Oct-24 10:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m not sure, but @allocater could confirm [25-Oct-24 10:59 AM] allocater#0000 I buy all the LC from the CXs [25-Oct-24 12:42 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I think allocator is my biggest customer [25-Oct-24 01:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299432593644720171/image.png?ex=68150868&is=6813b6e8&hm=0068c72ed85df18ae0daa247bcc65abc899203b2d5cadd5cd4fb8a7c683e42fb& [25-Oct-24 01:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 any of these [25-Oct-24 11:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 In case you didnโ€™t hear elsewhere, I advise against business with BraveCaperCat {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก (2) [25-Oct-24 11:59 PM] zipatsu#0000 Sucks to hear about Shrewd getting screwed on the loan but it's been a guilty pleasure watching that player go on their crazy rants seemingly every day ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [26-Oct-24 06:43 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 if anything its my fault,got lazy and gave a loan without doing myusual checks [26-Oct-24 06:43 AM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 but indeed he is very entertaining [26-Oct-24 01:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 Kinda feel bad that you lost money but also "feels good" when another IDC base fails ๐Ÿ™ˆ [26-Oct-24 05:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 Huh, only took 6 days for my 500 LBH order to be filled [26-Oct-24 07:29 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 How is it possible that Vox Lunaris has a water monopoly? [26-Oct-24 07:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 sell items cheap enough so other people don't bother making base for it [26-Oct-24 07:48 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It's crazy they have the volume of production to pull it off [26-Oct-24 07:49 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It's a terrific public service though {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [26-Oct-24 07:52 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://imgur.com/a/3hJvrOH {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/3hJvrOH H20.AI1 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/mvrbHi2Jq66cJKe_CsI3-15fKpFwopSMPza5wQufr1U/https/i.imgur.com/d5IMbUhh.jpg [26-Oct-24 07:52 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://imgur.com/a/vPVWs44 {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/vPVWs44 Untitled Album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_7tp_-Xbn92HMJFLJ44GEg3Swe5wFnlT-Nlda4Dmnps/https/i.imgur.com/McdoKvih.jpg [26-Oct-24 07:53 PM] zipatsu#0000 (Spent way too much time making these so I'll post them whenever there's a chance to ๐Ÿ˜„ ) [26-Oct-24 08:07 PM] zipatsu#0000 Outside of providing a bit of BSE, LST and some Agri mats for the corp my main goal in the game is to provide affordably priced H2O to the CX so I'm using 3 permits on each water base that I have while also posting ads on EW / ISA and Boucher for more H2O + the CX buy order as well. I did run out of stock a while back though which, among other reasons, led to me saving up enough to put up the 1 million H2O listing that I've currently got going. โœŒ๏ธ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299902166131015720/image.png?ex=6814c37b&is=681371fb&hm=c36b040078b3913a533e2bc162fbea36562ca110e840f15653f0be282149a449& [26-Oct-24 08:08 PM] zipatsu#0000 Not entirely sure yet if 45 is affordable enough considering I had it at 31 before but I've not seen anyone complain about it being too high in the chats so far so that's a good sign, possibly ๐Ÿ˜… [26-Oct-24 08:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 If not a secretโ€ฆ what % margin you have for H2O ๐Ÿ˜… [26-Oct-24 08:21 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Gotta love ~~Jerome Powell~~ new players and their money printers... can't even escape inflation in-game! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-24 08:29 PM] zipatsu#0000 I'm not really doing it for profit, more of a desire to supply the CX with all the water it needs for as cheap as I can without it being too cheap that it gets bought out to be sold for more. That said, I do need some small amount of profit if only just to be able to somehow afford the 100m+ I need for my next base eventually (*assuming Paris and everyone else that's been supplying Afabs at Corp discounts don't tell me to get lost when I show up with the next requst for ~2k Afabs *๐Ÿ˜…) On ANT I'm currently selling it for 45/u and buying it for 44.90/u so it's .10/u per sale from there, then on the planets that I list buy orders on I list them at 385k/10k as I have to haul it back myself and it's just naturally a bit cheaper to get on location vs them having to move it themselves [26-Oct-24 08:30 PM] zipatsu#0000 My bases have some variance in output but for Ice Station Alpha it looks like this according to the spreadsheet {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299907932602892320/image.png?ex=6814c8da&is=6813775a&hm=08f183e06a52c0003bb29cdf5d2b51811425a6b40e486172f2fbfa9f6d15b636& [26-Oct-24 08:31 PM] zipatsu#0000 Not entirely sure on the exact amount but deduct some 5 digit number off of that for the 2k/2k and HYR 2k/2k their fuel and repair needs [26-Oct-24 08:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 Not gonna lie... That's pretty impressive {Reactions} โœŒ๏ธ [26-Oct-24 08:36 PM] zipatsu#0000 There's no secrets in my operation, guess the only secret is that despite what some players in the global chat think I don't actually have a proper well thought out plan going. Am mostly just winging it as I continue on the road to supplying all the H2O ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-24 08:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 The more I look into my sales... more I want to just go for extraction only... [26-Oct-24 08:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 my long term goal cheap manufacturing consumables... OVE / PWO / EXO / PT / REP / HMS / HSS / LC ( + Textiles and Plastic ) [26-Oct-24 08:41 PM] zipatsu#0000 Can only speak for myself but I thoroughly enjoy the H2O extraction business, it's mostly just sending ships back and forth constantly and then recently looking into developing and managing new planets for myself and a few others as I slowly run out of viable liquid H2O sources but it's fun being able to supply one resource to everyone that needs it [26-Oct-24 08:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 I see... Plus it helps when your inputs don't look like a rainbow ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299911089177362432/image.png?ex=6814cbca&is=68137a4a&hm=8b00eedc953ce35b3e2c2e3fb4533f2433d736f445ef22c822abae5cad7f9d34& [26-Oct-24 08:43 PM] zipatsu#0000 Wish I could sell it for even cheaper but sadly at that point the more well off players have shown that they'll just buy it to resell for more at that point ๐Ÿ˜ฆ [26-Oct-24 08:43 PM] zipatsu#0000 Though maybe I can drop it to 40/u or something like that [26-Oct-24 08:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 the way I see it... you can just outproduce them... Keep selling at the price you want and they will runout of money to keep doing that [26-Oct-24 08:44 PM] zipatsu#0000 Yeah, that's definitely a benefit ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-24 08:44 PM] zipatsu#0000 it's mostly just red green and blue {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299911547476508736/image.png?ex=6814cc38&is=68137ab8&hm=54c67fcb5ed03fb386796297556adce2a2732d27bd4d6e099ae0c5c116f133ac& [26-Oct-24 08:46 PM] zipatsu#0000 The problem there is that shipping takes between 8 hours to 1 day and some hours depending on the planet so it was getting bought up during the resupply time [26-Oct-24 08:47 PM] marat_sh#0000 I sell in portions... Lets say I have 1000 EXOs... I post 200 EXO... it sells I post another 200 and keep going [26-Oct-24 08:47 PM] zipatsu#0000 That's part of the reason why I just stopped listing H2O for a while, much less likely that someone who's not Allocator rich is going to throw 45m at one resource all at once ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-24 08:50 PM] zipatsu#0000 I listed it in batches of 100k before but then someone bought ~350k H2O over a short time period, I think that person actually ended up using it for a project though as I haven't seen them in the order book but that did cut very deep into the stock I had built up lol [26-Oct-24 09:05 PM] marat_sh#0000 Hmm ๐Ÿค” I see... Well it's still a sale... you made money eather way... But for helping people with cheap items ADI internal offer is great to keep items in ANT [26-Oct-24 09:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 I almost always sell out when list items for internal offer [26-Oct-24 09:24 PM] zipatsu#0000 Internal offers don't reach the free players like listing it on the CX does ๐Ÿ˜ฆ (Also would be kind of a pain dealing with all those contracts ๐Ÿ˜„ ) [26-Oct-24 09:28 PM] zipatsu#0000 I don't think they'll add it any time soon, if ever, but I'd love the idea of a private CX where I could choose to simply not allow resellers to buy from if needed ๐Ÿ˜ [26-Oct-24 09:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 damn... Imagine a market stall ๐Ÿ‘€ [26-Oct-24 09:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/street-vendor-nat-geo-selling-food-cart-snacks-gif-23344619 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/street-vendor-nat-geo-selling-food-cart-snacks-gif-23344619 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ZcIxfMn8Hk84nN5n9gYky56Qam4en4HDYjFz7X7aG4s/https/media.tenor.com/2IO1HHtTgg0AAAAe/street-vendor-nat-geo.png [26-Oct-24 09:45 PM] zipatsu#0000 Haha yeah, just going around selling water ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Oct-24 09:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 anyone played x4? I wish there was a trade filter for a sector ๐Ÿ˜… What people sell or buy items in the system and at what price [26-Oct-24 09:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Isnโ€™t there in the map? Maybe not filter on price but definitely on items [26-Oct-24 09:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Unless that was one of the millions of mods I have [26-Oct-24 10:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Zipatsu is a hero ๐Ÿ˜„ Also wow, the market listing is super clean now. {Reactions} โค๏ธ [26-Oct-24 10:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 you mean this? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1299932292973723723/image.png?ex=6814df8a&is=68138e0a&hm=c66842342959446acf841241b31ffdf0748177b555b4dd21fc3260e85bd3ca90& [26-Oct-24 10:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 Ohhh I thought you meant X4 ๐Ÿ˜… [26-Oct-24 10:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 My bad. Donโ€™t think something similar exists in Prun, but Iโ€™d love it if it did [26-Oct-24 10:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah I want it like in X4 ๐Ÿ˜… [26-Oct-24 10:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 you post your listed order and anyone can see it in the system [26-Oct-24 11:44 PM] zipatsu#0000 The only other buy order left up now is from a free player whose listing I've filled twice already but I stopped when I noticed they were just selling it back into my buy order which I don't fully understand the logic of as their only base in on Harmonia and the cheapest listing for H2O currently is my listing so eventually that AIC will come right back to me with interest ๐Ÿคท {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [28-Oct-24 08:53 AM] marat_sh#0000 anyone needs some DCS? Plastic's market is pretty slow right now [28-Oct-24 08:54 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have some DCMs DCSs and PSMs [28-Oct-24 08:55 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™d take some ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Oct-24 08:56 AM] sidepipe#0000 EXO too, if you have any - I donโ€™t mind buying all the above at market prices [28-Oct-24 08:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have my orders posted on CX at lowest points between all CXs ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Oct-24 08:57 AM] marat_sh#0000 so I've got shit ton of EXOs [28-Oct-24 08:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 Ah, then Iโ€™ll just go shopping when Iโ€™m back at my PC ๐Ÿ˜ [28-Oct-24 09:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 200 EXOs (800 more tonight) available now on CX at 230/u (My order 240/u on CX), I've got 86 DCMs (4000/u my order on CX and 3800/u for corp) and around 96 DCS, 290 PSMs (but they are cheaper on CX right now, I can sell at 1800/u until market gets going again) [28-Oct-24 09:00 AM] sidepipe#0000 I would take all of the above at those prices ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Oct-24 09:01 AM] marat_sh#0000 alright I am gonna list all of them on auction and close it tomorrow morning ๐Ÿ‘ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [29-Oct-24 08:58 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1300821074761744394/image.png?ex=6814cf88&is=68137e08&hm=496d3082b8db2a1e6e605f741cf019d181fa333cf1a84d73d32cc678ecc3f9f1& [29-Oct-24 08:58 AM] marat_sh#0000 Started construction of KV base [29-Oct-24 08:59 AM] marat_sh#0000 Will need some TCL ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ in the future [29-Oct-24 09:11 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have a dedicated LAB base just for TCL [29-Oct-24 09:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 do you have spare TCL production? [29-Oct-24 09:12 AM] mrsmith33#0000 It has some excess production. I am at 17 day TCL buffer atm [29-Oct-24 09:12 AM] mrsmith33#0000 The goal is to have 30 days buffer [29-Oct-24 09:13 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Prod (on Agamemnon) is 99.4/day, consumption (on Astreus) is 61.5/day [29-Oct-24 09:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am starting with just 2 WPLs for now [29-Oct-24 09:14 AM] marat_sh#0000 so it's like 16 TCL per day [29-Oct-24 09:15 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I will bring 144 TCL to ANT soon [29-Oct-24 09:16 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am not gonna have $$$ to buy TCL yet, gonna do some NL for a bit before buying TCL [29-Oct-24 09:17 AM] mrsmith33#0000 The whole CL/TCL/KV chain is super expensive, so I do it myself [29-Oct-24 09:17 AM] marat_sh#0000 it is... But I gotta stick to Manufacturing only ๐Ÿ˜… [29-Oct-24 09:18 AM] marat_sh#0000 if you want we can do a contract for like 7 or 14 days You buy KV and I buy your TCL from that KV sale [29-Oct-24 09:18 AM] marat_sh#0000 until I can afford buying TCL myself [29-Oct-24 09:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 which shouldn't be that long It's just I am tight on cash after repairs and expansion [29-Oct-24 09:23 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I think I'm good on KV atm. (14 day buffer) [29-Oct-24 09:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 Alright I am gonna save up before buying TCL then ๐Ÿ˜… [29-Oct-24 10:23 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 I can buy your Kevlar [29-Oct-24 10:53 AM] marat_sh#0000 It will be a week or so for me to get it up and running [29-Oct-24 10:54 AM] marat_sh#0000 right now plan is KV 3/d until expansion [29-Oct-24 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 please let me know when you have them I wanna buy like a 100 TCL [29-Oct-24 03:40 PM] mrsmith33#0000 in 12hr you can send contract any time [29-Oct-24 03:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 is 3300/u fine? [29-Oct-24 03:41 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yea {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Oct-24 03:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 and so it begins... {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1301279935792418966/image.png?ex=68152961&is=6813d7e1&hm=7aa221285c9bcaf2ba87d6d8bb7dbb8680545b26ebd75ad6907fe25dbeef338f& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [30-Oct-24 11:45 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I've successfully gotten the ADE price swirling around the drain {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1301406617719279637/Screenshot_2024-10-30_at_21.44.29.png?ex=6814f69c&is=6813a51c&hm=80e03fdf1992677d0827255b43026dd0cd318972eeb617a9f006bf135ab980e2& [30-Oct-24 11:47 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 ๐Ÿฅณ [31-Oct-24 05:08 AM] allocater#0000 Time for OOG branch in ED? ๐Ÿ˜„ https://youtu.be/qLjDUZc4uM0 {Embed} ObsidianAnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLjDUZc4uM0 Elite Dangerous - Player COLONIZATION, Station Construction and New... One of the biggest changes ever to Elite Dangerous will allow for player-led and directed colonization of new star systems. Direct the construction of stations, outpost, planetary bases and more! Music by Epidemic Sound https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/87S64o95md-h4iN5NjSq5ayk_zDoipM1yunFBDe7x5Y/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/qLjDUZc4uM0/maxresdefault.jpg [31-Oct-24 05:09 AM] akyantor#0000 I had a good time playing ED ages ago, not gone back for ages (pre-horizon), so day say loads has changed. I was a little disappointed that they pulled the console version, as it was a good game to sit back and enjoy on the couch. [31-Oct-24 06:23 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am in a very deep space and got lazy coming back to bubble ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ [31-Oct-24 06:26 AM] allocater#0000 I think I logged off 3 years ago in one of the Exploration Capital ships, which might now be at the other end of the galaxy ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Oct-24 07:01 AM] marat_sh#0000 Last time I played was in 2020. Logged in ones last year to checkout carriers [31-Oct-24 07:07 AM] akyantor#0000 I don't think they even had carriers when I played... dating how long ago it was! [31-Oct-24 07:07 AM] akyantor#0000 Maybe worth checking out again [31-Oct-24 07:08 AM] akyantor#0000 I did quite enjoy it as a somewhat chill game to play [31-Oct-24 07:09 AM] marat_sh#0000 Got aome beef with a few โ€œpiratsโ€ and left bubble for half a year [31-Oct-24 01:18 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i was very involved in the background simulation. i had a few pet projets i helped grow. then a player faction got inserted into the homesystem of one of my factions. that was quite the bummer. haven't played since. i also dread the engineering grind. [31-Oct-24 01:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 I've heard they changed or changing engineering [31-Oct-24 01:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 I hated that it's required to do engineering to play but it takes so long to do it {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ [31-Oct-24 01:29 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i have a few unengineered ships sitting at an engineering base waiting to be engineered. i have avoided doing so for 3+ years. ๐Ÿ˜… [31-Oct-24 01:30 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 the clan i was part of is still active. [31-Oct-24 01:30 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i'm a bit curious what the new update might bring. [31-Oct-24 01:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1301616803461730455/image.png?ex=6815119c&is=6813c01c&hm=246067bbe0ae2ecb4a0d399bb8a457562120b5062caff78d72de9e3a690bbd7b& [31-Oct-24 01:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 flash back {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ [31-Oct-24 01:41 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 luckily the person who designed this no longer works on ED. [31-Oct-24 01:49 PM] marat_sh#0000 I almost punched my display when saw it... {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [31-Oct-24 07:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am installing ED again... [31-Oct-24 09:39 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 What is ED? [31-Oct-24 09:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 Elite Dangerous [31-Oct-24 09:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ~~Erectile disfunction~~ [31-Oct-24 09:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 Me after booting up that game [01-Nov-24 01:54 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 there are only 19 slots for players left on harmonia. [01-Nov-24 03:47 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone has base on Avalon? I have an emergency sale of 1000 MCG for 1 ICA. Need space to demolish base. [01-Nov-24 03:49 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Someone bought it, I'm saved [01-Nov-24 03:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Demolished my Avalon base [01-Nov-24 04:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 Anyone has any requests for PPFs? Pretty slow on the market right now [01-Nov-24 04:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I would buy another 200 DCS. I have tons of the other ones but that feel behind {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [01-Nov-24 04:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 On it [01-Nov-24 04:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 For anyone else Please do make requests since I am not using plastics myself and probably mothball them if nobody interested [02-Nov-24 06:17 AM] akyantor#0000 Anyone able to take 100 HAL off my hands for 0.01AIC/u on Halcyon? I've posted a local market order, run out of warehouse space to demolish my base temporarily. ๐Ÿ˜› [02-Nov-24 06:22 AM] akyantor#0000 Can also do it temporarily if needed, paying for the warehouse costs. [02-Nov-24 06:28 AM] mrsmith33#0000 done [02-Nov-24 06:28 AM] akyantor#0000 Thanks [02-Nov-24 01:21 PM] marat_sh#0000 you can send me contract know, I should be able to fill it in 2-3 days [02-Nov-24 07:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Welcome @agm114 ! In 7 days remind someone that your trial is over, and we will send you the in-game invite [02-Nov-24 07:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 In the mean time, take a look at #shareholders-welcome , and if there's anything specific, we have some guides on https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/ Since you know your way around PRUN mayne you won't need them, unless you have questions about the auction system or something. {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/ Shareholders | OOG Capital Management For shareholding members of OOG https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hiivP5cQuGcN5YAYcXAZ5Xbe3mBuCboUTM6cXdvWudM/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/OOGOpenGraph.png [02-Nov-24 07:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 Welcome ๐ŸŽ‰ [03-Nov-24 07:48 AM] agm114#0000 How do I do an auction if I am not sure of the price of the good [03-Nov-24 07:59 AM] zipatsu#0000 It's not really a price bidding auction, it's more of a ''I have X good(s) that I would like to sell for Y price and then others can "bid" on how much of it they would like to buy" type of thing. โœŒ๏ธ [03-Nov-24 08:08 AM] agm114#0000 More for buying lets say I want to buy x good but am not to picky on price [03-Nov-24 08:10 AM] marat_sh#0000 So you do โ€˜/orderโ€™ in order channel [03-Nov-24 08:11 AM] agm114#0000 can I just do any in the price field? [03-Nov-24 08:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 You can ask people here for specific items but in general you can ether search in the order channel if some one already ordered it or post it at BID price [03-Nov-24 08:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 There is a table with internal prices somewhere but I am not sure if itโ€™s updated [03-Nov-24 08:58 AM] archielvahr#0000 What I usually do is search for other auctions of the same thing and match that price. [03-Nov-24 08:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 But you can sell at whatever price works for you. I just match the previous auctions cause I am too lazy to figure out my own prices ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03-Nov-24 09:00 AM] archielvahr#0000 I do the same when ordering. If itโ€™s a uncommon good Iโ€™ll just mention that any price is okay, in case Iโ€™m way off with my order [03-Nov-24 09:11 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am also curios on what you produce ๐Ÿ˜… if it's not a secret [03-Nov-24 09:38 AM] agm114#0000 OVE {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Nov-24 09:39 AM] agm114#0000 Yeah this is a laziness thing for me too {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ [03-Nov-24 06:01 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Where do our corporate dividends even come from? [03-Nov-24 06:01 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Production fees of planets governed by the CORP [03-Nov-24 06:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 They are a holdover from a different time, when the mechanic worked differently [03-Nov-24 06:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 we used to make a lot more that way [03-Nov-24 06:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-11-03_18-09-40.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-11-03_18-09-40.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jFRKFIdeoEVUQGoaPN6ZUUaR5ff9XdvllWMLy5do8KU/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-11-03_18-09-40.png [03-Nov-24 06:18 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ญ [03-Nov-24 07:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 Crazy weekend markets. O is starting to spike. AR is selling out. PG is reaching a threshold. LDI & MB have found buyers. FF is getting closer to MM. Prolly others Ive not noticed ... [03-Nov-24 07:15 PM] tuffyless#0000 May we live in interesting times ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [03-Nov-24 07:40 PM] .urpalhal#0000 The end of days [03-Nov-24 07:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 not to mention spots opening up on deimos! [03-Nov-24 07:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 MHP demand has kinda slowed now that Malahat is no longer using them, so I'm considering tearing down my Phobos base and opening up a base for AR or O somewhere [03-Nov-24 08:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah actually I need another batch of MHP, heh [03-Nov-24 08:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 you're in luck ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Nov-24 08:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've got 163 at ANT right now, send for as much as you need! [03-Nov-24 11:31 PM] agm114#0000 my repair backlog is insane lol [04-Nov-24 01:15 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I haven't been bringing O because of Avalon base [04-Nov-24 07:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 @sidepipe I sent for the MHP and put it on Malahat's tab. I will send a reimbursement out today probably [04-Nov-24 01:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 No rush, I take credit ๐Ÿ˜ [04-Nov-24 01:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 Or maybe it would be debit - in any case, do you anticipate needing MHP going forward? It sells pretty slow on the CX, so i might stockpile a bunch and maybe respec half the base to do something else [04-Nov-24 01:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think it'll be on and off. It was off for about a month. [04-Nov-24 01:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 I expect if you make a stock pile it'll get used in the next couple months, so it's sort of up to your timeline [04-Nov-24 06:21 PM] draconisdomini#0000 C is through the roof too [04-Nov-24 06:22 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It was so nice and stable before ;( [04-Nov-24 06:24 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Looks like someone put in a massive order for 43000 C on 16th October and that started to destabilise things [04-Nov-24 06:26 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Not sure what's up with AR. I am now supplying about 25% of the entire market and I only started selling a couple of months ago. I would expect the price to be dropping [04-Nov-24 07:05 PM] tuffyless#0000 450k PE traded in last 24 hours. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ [04-Nov-24 09:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 That was when Allocater ran out of C, right? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ถโ€๐ŸŒซ๏ธ [04-Nov-24 09:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 What ever happened to the 43000? It wasn't relisted? [04-Nov-24 09:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 I listed some of mine at increasing prices: [04-Nov-24 09:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1303204891354861648/image.png?ex=6814e9e2&is=68139862&hm=be42d5a5202c05ff91d7dca652abea1c20f298c72e5931e04e1c670b23c15156& [04-Nov-24 09:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 both got bought out [05-Nov-24 11:23 AM] allocater#0000 I had some nice walls, but they fell. There is just more money than carbon in the world ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Nov-24 02:59 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Got 6 month pro {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [05-Nov-24 03:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 my 3 months is about to ran out soon too [05-Nov-24 03:15 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Landed on ZV-759a with PP2 base [06-Nov-24 01:29 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Does anyone mine extra ZIR? [06-Nov-24 01:34 PM] .urpalhal#0000 (I only use 22/d) [06-Nov-24 02:37 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1303820479336812554/image.png?ex=68152cf2&is=6813db72&hm=bea6ae7d250d81b31a3bca08f9bfb1cb63efc47dc8b6e4ac4dbbeeab95d8289c& [06-Nov-24 02:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ [06-Nov-24 04:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 @tuffyless you got some ZIR I could bum off you? [06-Nov-24 05:09 PM] tuffyless#0000 Actually, yeh. I'll sell all but 200. So 690. I was originally gunna get into making Fuel Tanks but then later changed direction. [06-Nov-24 05:10 PM] tuffyless#0000 I think nano was looking for some earlier too. Perhaps I should just auction off the 690. [06-Nov-24 05:35 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Aaaaughhhhhh {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1303865275267022848/Screenshot_2024-11-06_at_15.34.45.png?ex=6814adea&is=68135c6a&hm=e0b0792855c4fb57edffabd33730ac466384071f0542c62bb9b2f24e94362904& [06-Nov-24 05:36 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8wX8UkIIrEgYYOOy1uV7LeNTY8w0AG_tt_hd2jLBuQQ/https/media.tenor.com/bHGUqVIKzhoAAAAe/let-me-in-eric-andre.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [06-Nov-24 05:42 PM] tuffyless#0000 thats gotta be so frustrating. Dev's should create a queue for those waiting in line for a plot. First come first serve. If you have the CM mats onsite and click the 'queue me up' button ... then when a plot opens, your CM is auto-placed. [07-Nov-24 08:07 AM] marat_sh#0000 any thoughts on latest economic report? [07-Nov-24 08:26 AM] sidepipe#0000 Looks like bfabs are definitely taking money out of the economy - not anywhere near the scale that itโ€™s being added by IDC of course [07-Nov-24 08:26 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m not sure if I agree with all the inflation angst that people seem to have in the other discords. I feel like itโ€™s had pretty little negative impact on me other than pricing me out of producing bfabs [07-Nov-24 08:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 i don't think that there that much inflation [07-Nov-24 08:29 AM] marat_sh#0000 but having ability to invest into other companies stocks would help with cash hoarding in this game [07-Nov-24 08:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, i think itโ€™d be super fun to run a company with shares, but probably too much manual work for me right now ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Nov-24 08:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 Speaking of which, any companies here I can invest in? ๐Ÿ˜ [07-Nov-24 08:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 you can invest in me by buying my SIL that I am not going to use ๐Ÿ˜… ๐Ÿ™ˆ [07-Nov-24 08:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have 102 SIL [07-Nov-24 08:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 Do you have any CLF? [07-Nov-24 08:34 AM] marat_sh#0000 nope ๐Ÿ˜… [07-Nov-24 08:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 I might be able to hook you up with some of the electronics components to turn those into LC [07-Nov-24 08:34 AM] marat_sh#0000 Nano has CLF production [07-Nov-24 08:34 AM] marat_sh#0000 he is making LC [07-Nov-24 08:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 last time he said that HDs are pretty expansive [07-Nov-24 08:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 but if he wants it I can sell SIL 4000/u [07-Nov-24 08:38 AM] sidepipe#0000 Good to know! [07-Nov-24 08:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 Also for anyone else... EXO is gonna jump in price as soon as I stop production of it [07-Nov-24 08:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 I wish electronics were less vertically integrated - with the amounts of different inputs you need, I feel like it would be pretty well suited to selling on the CX in a larger economy {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [07-Nov-24 08:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 Main reason why I am doing rebranding [07-Nov-24 08:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 too many people doing vertical integration [07-Nov-24 08:40 AM] sidepipe#0000 If you ever wanna start selling electronics components on the CX, let me know and Iโ€™ll start buying them ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Nov-24 08:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 Nah I will focus on mass extraction economy with a bit of chemistry [07-Nov-24 08:43 AM] sidepipe#0000 Extraction seems like a good place to be right now anyway. It feels like everything is running out everywhere {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [07-Nov-24 08:44 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve been wanting to refocus a bit more into electronics of different sorts, but vertically integrated FIM has been way too lucrative to ever stop [07-Nov-24 08:46 AM] timomurbekov#0000 I do [07-Nov-24 08:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Another SIL customer ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [07-Nov-24 08:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Excuse me good sir... Would you like to look at my fine wares? [07-Nov-24 08:48 AM] timomurbekov#0000 No, I produce SIL by myself๐Ÿ˜Ž [07-Nov-24 08:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/dammit-eric-cartman-south-park-dang-it-darn-it-gif-22243865 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/dammit-eric-cartman-south-park-dang-it-darn-it-gif-22243865 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pxvvE0jDocj39cm9xEYp-1vSJB9aIZDJ-tDP37mEh1U/https/media.tenor.com/m6X4jonvPyUAAAAe/dammit-eric-cartman.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [07-Nov-24 10:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 You can always buy gateway shares! [07-Nov-24 01:06 PM] marat_sh#0000 @akyantor did you post a RAT LM on halcyon? [07-Nov-24 01:07 PM] akyantor#0000 Yes, trying to free up a small amount of space. ๐Ÿ™‚ [07-Nov-24 01:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 That's what I thought ๐Ÿ˜… [07-Nov-24 01:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 if you need I have space to hold until you need it [07-Nov-24 01:10 PM] akyantor#0000 That's fine. I've demolished my base there for now anyway. By all means make use of it. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Nov-24 06:24 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I'm restarting LC production since someone blew out my stock on the CX (there's literally no LC left lmao) [07-Nov-24 06:24 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I still have a hefty stockpile of 63, but I'll burn through it, eventually... [07-Nov-24 06:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 people buy in bulk at high tier [07-Nov-24 06:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 we got to 1700/u for PSM [07-Nov-24 06:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 before 1000 were bought out [07-Nov-24 06:44 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I don't have enough liquid capital to have like a million AIC of LCs just sitting on the CX [07-Nov-24 06:45 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 ๐Ÿฅฒ [07-Nov-24 06:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 one of the reasons why I am switching my productions [07-Nov-24 06:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can't afford to not sell [08-Nov-24 08:35 AM] akyantor#0000 I finally added repair status to my shipping planner sheet sheet to easily see each base in one page. What a mess to sort out, need to keep up with repairs in future. ๐Ÿ˜› [08-Nov-24 08:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 xit repairs [08-Nov-24 09:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve been meaning to sit down and start putting together some excel tools for the game. I love PMMG, but I canโ€™t always keep on top of everything with burn and repairs [08-Nov-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s not the fault of the tools, just how my brain works ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Nov-24 09:32 AM] akyantor#0000 I don't really use PMMG, spreadsheets fed from FIO. [08-Nov-24 09:34 AM] akyantor#0000 An example view I used to decide what shipping to do next, summarises days of supplies remaining (both upkeep + production), repair status, capacity of goods ready for pickup by LCB & WCB, and value of goods to be sold. *I've set it up to allow me to see the resupply detail for more than one planet at once, which is sometimes useful for multiple stops.* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1304469079024734330/image.png?ex=6814e600&is=68139480&hm=bb4d5bcabef33237e1260b709684c1a3f9120deb5c53147387e47c137313c379& [08-Nov-24 09:35 AM] akyantor#0000 I've another sheet that summarises what goods I have available to sell at ANT, with reductions for any stock that I need to retain for any upkeep or manually entered construction projects. *I next want to figure out how to add reductions to fabs for repairs, but not sure how to do that yet.* [08-Nov-24 09:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m hoping to put together something similar. Especially since I have a few routes with multiple stops, Iโ€™d like to generate the XIT actions for unloading at each planet only what is needed there [08-Nov-24 09:37 AM] sidepipe#0000 My biggest obstacle so far is figuring out the burn components. Itโ€™s easy to get the workforce consumption from FIO, but I havenโ€™t figured out how to do the inputs for production [08-Nov-24 09:37 AM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, that bit I manually maintain at the moment :S [08-Nov-24 09:38 AM] akyantor#0000 I've a feeder sheet where I manually enter production requirements for each planet, and another sheet to collate daily needs for planets I govern. [08-Nov-24 09:38 AM] akyantor#0000 tbh... it's not that problematic to manually manage those as they don't change all the time [08-Nov-24 09:40 AM] akyantor#0000 The upkeep goods I feed via a sheet that does come from FIO as that's readily available. [08-Nov-24 09:40 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, Iโ€™m okay with doing that manually. I donโ€™t switch production often, and when I do I usually switch between two states [08-Nov-24 09:41 AM] sidepipe#0000 I think splitting my resupplies into workforce and inputs will help as well [08-Nov-24 09:48 AM] tuffyless#0000 I kinda do manually too. I manually calc how much input I need for a time period. Then subtract current inventory onsite (*provided by FIO*) . The difference is what needs hauled to site. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1304472513954447360/image.png?ex=6814e933&is=681397b3&hm=cf0d64362ea7c241f8df8c63f514df3f3b9dadfe9b0c979516de9e65b64c866e& [08-Nov-24 09:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 that makes me feel a bit better that I wasn't missing any obvious FIO queries ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Nov-24 09:49 AM] tuffyless#0000 Doing that for Cons, Fabs, Inputs [08-Nov-24 09:52 AM] tuffyless#0000 If there is a query, I prolly wouldnt like it. Cuz it would no doubt calc based off of what production is reoccurring, like PMMG does. But if you insert non-reoccurring things into the queue, it's not calc'd. Kinda sux but maybe is just me. [08-Nov-24 11:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I feel the same way. My tool only does workforce consumables because my inputs are more irregular [08-Nov-24 11:38 AM] darjaves#0000 I have etherwind for W and DW, i will not make anything else. Do i need harmonia still? I don't think its good for any use. [08-Nov-24 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I dropped my harmonia base [08-Nov-24 11:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 I suppose if you like doing agriculture products you could convert it to HYFs [08-Nov-24 02:20 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Do loan contracts autofill if you have sufficient liquid capital? [08-Nov-24 02:21 PM] mrsmith33#0000 IIRC no [08-Nov-24 02:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm pretty syre the payments do happen automatically, and you shouldn't click them early or it will shorten the duration of your loan {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [08-Nov-24 09:05 PM] agm114#0000 Tbh pmmg doesn't update a lot of the time for me [10-Nov-24 11:59 AM] sidepipe#0000 Anyone here with FF experience - does it usually need two permits? [10-Nov-24 11:59 AM] sidepipe#0000 Trying to figure out another non food-related thing to make ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Nov-24 12:24 PM] hernanduer#0000 I run my COLs and REFs on 206i with plenty of extra He3 [10-Nov-24 12:25 PM] hernanduer#0000 Running them in the same place is pretty easy and the extra He3 volume counter balances the FF mass pretty well to fill a 2k/2k [10-Nov-24 12:26 PM] hernanduer#0000 If you used all the He3 in situ though then WCB ship might be better [11-Nov-24 06:17 PM] draconisdomini#0000 If anyone has a base on Life the election has two days left to run and I could do with one more vote to ensure I get in the parliament, not Blake {Reactions} ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ [11-Nov-24 08:04 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I use Harmonia for growing HER and RCO, since HER can only be grown in FRMs and I think it is more efficient for RCO than HYFs [11-Nov-24 08:04 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Same here [11-Nov-24 08:04 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Plus lots of GRN [11-Nov-24 08:05 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I used to that, but switched to HCP on Life instead [11-Nov-24 08:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I am psycho I triple burn shit ๐Ÿ˜œ [11-Nov-24 08:06 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Lol [11-Nov-24 08:06 PM] .urpalhal#0000 (Side note why does burning more shit just make it burn faster not **burn MORE**) [11-Nov-24 08:08 PM] draconisdomini#0000 It doesn't make much sense really either way. With the normal HCP => C recipe you burn 3.2 tonnes of HCP and get 9 tonnes of C [11-Nov-24 08:08 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Somehow burning stuff makes it gain mass [11-Nov-24 08:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Letโ€™s riot and get them to add C we can mine [11-Nov-24 08:11 PM] .urpalhal#0000 We can keep charcoal [11-Nov-24 08:11 PM] .urpalhal#0000 But gimme coal damnit [11-Nov-24 08:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-gif-7289796 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-gif-7289796 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/qdYUGI7tAv74pEUwPr0G11UaPeBReJusGZK0_c5ySb4/https/media.tenor.com/51xBxnDUqW0AAAAe/zoolander.png [11-Nov-24 08:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 me on my way to new oil rig [12-Nov-24 07:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 gonna post my last plastics on auction soon... ~360 PSMs and 108 DCS [12-Nov-24 08:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306076115621904444/image.png?ex=6814cfeb&is=68137e6b&hm=ef8d721d4b7314ee57ad087fb4086e78457cc259f6506acbb630d2ba341e84bb& [12-Nov-24 08:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 also making strategic reserve before bmps gonna get destroyed [14-Nov-24 11:12 AM] max.kalina#0000 So quiet today๐Ÿ™ƒ in all the topics [14-Nov-24 11:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 Everyone's waitin' for gateways, heh [14-Nov-24 11:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 I was saving afabs for gateways, but I am pretty close to an HQ upgrade, so I'm probably gonna do that soon [14-Nov-24 12:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am doing restructure Going from manufacturing to EXT -> Chem [14-Nov-24 12:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 HAL extraction is working... EPO plant is under construction [14-Nov-24 12:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 REA plant is getting planned [14-Nov-24 12:10 PM] zipatsu#0000 If only they weren't so expensive I'd be able to haul H2O even faster ๐Ÿฅน [14-Nov-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think by gateway launch time we'll have 4 gateways / 2 links more or less ready to go [14-Nov-24 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Honestly probably time to plan the second link [14-Nov-24 12:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mostly we're just looking for the GWS and other big parts now, which do require the new ore. So I think that's why people are hestiant to fill them. [14-Nov-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 OOG represents 65% of contributions so far. I will want to rope more OOG donations in, and also solicit for cash donations. I sort of expect cash donations to be popular, but I haven't seen any yet. [14-Nov-24 12:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 probably since there is no reason to contribute cash yet [14-Nov-24 12:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. [14-Nov-24 12:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's all still pretty abstract [14-Nov-24 01:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do donations have to be in AIC? I have tons of NCC laying around ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 01:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can probably convert, especially if I have it in advance. The FX moves at a pretty inconsistent rate but I'm actually doing okay with it. [14-Nov-24 01:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 And honestly a fair bit of cash donations might go towards buying Rhenium so that might come from any region [14-Nov-24 01:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have 30M NCC that I have no plans for, so if youโ€™re willing to try and convert it, Iโ€™d be happy to donate ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-24 02:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds good, so how I have it working is that I'll log the contribution on the sheet, then when I buy, for example, 860 LIT for 15m, I will donate those LIT, then assign the 123504.3 shares from me to you. [14-Nov-24 02:07 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Should I produce LIT? I have 5 GF that can take some orders [14-Nov-24 02:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 The $ -> Share rate does vary a fair bit, but generally it tends to cluster around $150 per share [14-Nov-24 02:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess the LIT for the first two is earmarked, 500 by Melon and 860 by Roh. I think there will be more LIT to make, but there are also mats that aren't covered yet [14-Nov-24 02:09 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I mixed up GF and FS nvm [14-Nov-24 02:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you have spare FS time, I would take some AFR ๐Ÿ˜‰ I can supply the mats, the ZR and AL [14-Nov-24 02:11 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Sell me ZR and I will get you AFRs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-24 02:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 4 FIR if you want [14-Nov-24 02:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just did 1 AIC because I have no idea of the prices for ZIR and AFR [14-Nov-24 02:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 So you can just make something up for the AFRs ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 02:13 PM] mrsmith33#0000 ok [14-Nov-24 02:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I miiiight take you up on those FIRs [14-Nov-24 02:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Soโ€ฆ since I bought one HEX at 30M NCC, how much is Archiel Industries valued at now? Donโ€™t you have like 30k of the stuff? ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 Haha yep [14-Nov-24 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 actually I think the model caught on and devalued it just recently [14-Nov-24 02:45 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306721766760255629/image.png?ex=6814863a&is=681334ba&hm=f5fe1b3871f389098aec84d10aed1b0a971f67576bb82f6f01685beb8b645ce0& [14-Nov-24 02:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I did drop the price to a very high but more realistic number [14-Nov-24 02:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Mine looks pretty reasonably {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306723123441307748/image.png?ex=6814877e&is=681335fe&hm=d744d94ed29e8f91a2b2ce047765cdab7d1df12cd87fb1588b94e8a725a8d0b1& [14-Nov-24 02:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 I keep having to wipe mine cause of pmmg issues [14-Nov-24 02:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 You can tell when the HEX shenanigans started [14-Nov-24 02:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306723710937464862/image.png?ex=6814880a&is=6813368a&hm=58476ece5ebc95fc5b61eaed524b7acd27f92c57ac5c4478b4edd458b0477bb3& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [14-Nov-24 03:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 line go up {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306726182120722543/image.png?ex=68148a57&is=681338d7&hm=52c79cb48ff8c5fd8dc9e4b4bddc944734f0fbda30d939bc15365547a786a429& [14-Nov-24 03:11 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm gonna get level 30 today, you should join me ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 03:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 since swapping all PP4s on Nike, I made this upgrade in what felt like record time [14-Nov-24 03:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 compared to my more recent upgrades [14-Nov-24 03:12 PM] hernanduer#0000 Aceland, the base I made with the most recent permit, still doesn't even have 5 experts [14-Nov-24 03:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oooh yeah, OOG is doing pretty well on the HQ level list [14-Nov-24 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 I've also been meaning to do that, although maybe I will keep my PP3s. [14-Nov-24 03:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 something like 40% of their time is making TSH right now [14-Nov-24 03:14 PM] hernanduer#0000 just move the PP3s to Aceland {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-24 03:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 well right now I have like 200 area worth of WEL I should definitely move [14-Nov-24 03:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 I don't make any b or lfabs, just rfabs and afabs now [14-Nov-24 03:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 move those to Aceland too ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 03:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh 194b is up to 22k pop [14-Nov-24 03:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 put the WELs there maybe [14-Nov-24 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 well LS-231c is gonna need a bunch of people on it [14-Nov-24 03:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 and I think that's construction [14-Nov-24 03:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 So I figure that can do WEL [14-Nov-24 03:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 yeah [14-Nov-24 03:19 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have PP4 on Nike PP3 on Aceland PP2 on ZV-759a PP2 + PP3 + PP4 + WEL on ZV-194b [14-Nov-24 03:19 PM] hernanduer#0000 gonna take a bit to start LS-231c [14-Nov-24 03:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think this new permit needs to be chemistry for me [14-Nov-24 03:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 chem base 9 I think, haha [14-Nov-24 03:20 PM] hernanduer#0000 maybe (god help me) Bober [14-Nov-24 03:55 PM] melon164#0000 In for a penny ๐Ÿ˜ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306739373600936047/image.png?ex=681496a0&is=68134520&hm=a53bd24540ca480d42846c42486bf7677f51648ee7bc431760bbf8d3a3f7fbc8& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [14-Nov-24 03:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I am hesitant to claim more since we are so far before the release [14-Nov-24 03:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 You gonna build some of those on LS-231? ๐Ÿ˜‰ [14-Nov-24 03:57 PM] melon164#0000 I'll build them wherever they need to be, to do otherwise would be an expensive mistake! [14-Nov-24 03:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 oof yeah very much so! [14-Nov-24 03:58 PM] melon164#0000 Feels like a GWS is basically three LCB worth of advanced metallurgy [14-Nov-24 03:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have AAFs on Heph. I will probably make all my PFGs and SSTs there. I will probably make the TOR on LS-231 cause I'll be moving my WEL [14-Nov-24 03:59 PM] melon164#0000 Maybe I could outsource the final assembly of three of the GWS to you there; I assume we need five at each end [14-Nov-24 03:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. The PFGs are pretty high value.. then they go into SSTs which is 200 WRH, which is a lot of ASM time. And WRH is heavy. [14-Nov-24 03:59 PM] melon164#0000 all of the intermediates can be shipped, I believe [14-Nov-24 04:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, depending on timing I might make SSTs on site [14-Nov-24 04:00 PM] melon164#0000 I've been BGO free for two months and I've immediately fallen into shipping TA around, I'm a complete sucker for "heavy" ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ [14-Nov-24 04:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Nov-24 04:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I wonder how long it'll be before the first GWS is started, since the PFGs take 6 days at 100%, and I don't think anyone is gonna have like 8 AAFs [14-Nov-24 04:02 PM] melon164#0000 Aw crap, there are no SCI anywhere in LS-231 ๐Ÿค” [14-Nov-24 04:02 PM] melon164#0000 where are we going? b or c? [14-Nov-24 04:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess each GW is like 16 * 5 days of AAF time [14-Nov-24 04:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I am 90% sure LS-231c. I just haven't announced it [14-Nov-24 04:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I will check in with PiBoy [14-Nov-24 04:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I want to have 5 construction and 5 manuf experts there so I can swap. [14-Nov-24 04:05 PM] melon164#0000 Hmm, I maybe need to put a base down there and start farming experts and raising SCI [14-Nov-24 04:05 PM] melon164#0000 guess I can make REA ๐Ÿค” [14-Nov-24 04:05 PM] melon164#0000 and construct... stuff... ๐Ÿ™ƒ [14-Nov-24 04:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'm moving my WEL there [14-Nov-24 04:06 PM] melon164#0000 oh that's a good idea [14-Nov-24 04:06 PM] melon164#0000 or some PP1, I have half a million PE I could turn into BDE ๐Ÿค” [14-Nov-24 04:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 fast way to make experts, heh [14-Nov-24 04:08 PM] melon164#0000 Might be time to tear down Hyalos _again_ [14-Nov-24 04:08 PM] melon164#0000 Will be the third time I've left that planet [14-Nov-24 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh. Do you run all those with two ships in flight? [14-Nov-24 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Do you do a ton of shipping contracts? [14-Nov-24 04:14 PM] melon164#0000 Sometimes; I just shipped 800 TAI back from Hyalos, for instance [14-Nov-24 04:15 PM] melon164#0000 mostly I just run with massive 60d consumable buffers and then run a lot of point-to-point material transfers {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Nov-24 04:32 PM] melon164#0000 I'll cancel my LIT contribution, that was going to be my Hyalos base, but other duty calls for it [14-Nov-24 10:17 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Everyone loves fancy windows ๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1306835457321078824/Screenshot_2024-11-14_at_20.14.53.png?ex=6814f01c&is=68139e9c&hm=58c2dcd7b229de5a57a92b49355c5bd6ee83caf4298b91c0820ec619dd5731f2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [14-Nov-24 11:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 @akyantor just realized that contract is backwards ๐Ÿฅฒ [15-Nov-24 04:44 AM] akyantor#0000 Doh, I'll send it back. [15-Nov-24 08:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 hmm Interesting [15-Nov-24 08:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 HAL is at 400/u [15-Nov-24 08:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 happy that I've invested into it [15-Nov-24 08:01 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have a bit mined but it's not a lot [15-Nov-24 07:36 PM] draconisdomini#0000 What plug-in do you guys use for this? [15-Nov-24 07:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 PMMG it looks like [15-Nov-24 07:37 PM] hernanduer#0000 Pmmg [15-Nov-24 07:37 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Link for where I can find that? [15-Nov-24 07:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended {Embed} https://sites.google.com/view/pmmgextended PMMG Extended Chrome Store Link Firefox Store Link https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SVdXgfvgnmXdF3k-EHFhp-LT5-UVRk0C9F8TNn5U3t8/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/rF0lFQU34MeW99QqtGWxRnrFnUNn3l4AnEqnEuP1NFU9E-5Dhd6VlfWZojBxZPm-1LiBC3iZBKfemKLVNeyqRtw%3Dw16383 [15-Nov-24 07:38 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Thanks! [16-Nov-24 08:18 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Looking to exchange 100 ABH (mine) with 100 ADE (yours) [16-Nov-24 10:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 Any interest in BWS auctions? Not sure how widely used they are outside of HQ upgrades [16-Nov-24 10:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 (Also, I will sell you very discounted BWS for HQ upgrades ๐Ÿ™‚ ) [16-Nov-24 12:18 PM] allocater#0000 I have 89 ADE on ANT [16-Nov-24 01:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use a fair bit of BWS but I usually make my own. I imagine there'd be a decent market for them though [16-Nov-24 01:35 PM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™d buy some BWS [17-Nov-24 06:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1307868472017031178/image.png?ex=6814bdae&is=68136c2e&hm=ad9b8d172c99efb7345112cc62b2a397207b7f226b8c98186da8cef6e132d90c& [17-Nov-24 06:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 damn that fuel saving engine [17-Nov-24 06:52 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh dang, I need to upgrade my ships [17-Nov-24 08:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got lots of FSE if anyone wants some! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1307888498761797724/image.png?ex=6814d055&is=68137ed5&hm=286d5aaeca3b522632261b16965e7b8ad36a1f0e649fb00021d909d9c3cbd1a0& [18-Nov-24 10:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 Just upgraded Nike to include 9 PP4s ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [18-Nov-24 10:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 ye [18-Nov-24 10:20 AM] hernanduer#0000 I noticed Piboy is changing 231c to Agri? [18-Nov-24 10:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 uh shouldn't be [18-Nov-24 10:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 I'll message him about that too.... [18-Nov-24 10:28 AM] archielvahr#0000 I dropped a 1300 PIO base so I asked him for an immigration job too. [18-Nov-24 10:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 He said he is spooling down his operations there so I think that means I'll take over [18-Nov-24 11:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308127259273728123/image.png?ex=681505f2&is=6813b472&hm=246f98fd3244b60ef04f1e048472256a4ec3970fc8483a7eb9b79041c5bffdd9& [18-Nov-24 11:50 AM] marat_sh#0000 damn... the HAL must flow [18-Nov-24 02:07 PM] mrsmith33#0000 There should be an ability to set negative price {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308161612812779661/image.png?ex=681525f0&is=6813d470&hm=d0d876e88096643beb7642baff02dc7131ca9a82b9acb8d6b1843f63cfa6c4bc& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [18-Nov-24 02:07 PM] katinga#0000 i guess you're feeling salty about that? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [18-Nov-24 02:08 PM] mrsmith33#0000 those are not my ads [18-Nov-24 02:09 PM] katinga#0000 the pun still stands [18-Nov-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 Still tempted to just grab it ๐Ÿ˜… [18-Nov-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 Itโ€™s on electronica if anyone interested [18-Nov-24 03:25 PM] mrsmith33#0000 It is too abundant, and takes a lot of space. Basically increases price of CL, because you need to haul it. [18-Nov-24 03:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Worth 25/u if you sell it at the CX! which might be less than the shipping cost [18-Nov-24 03:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 I was thinking to grab it on my way back from electronica [18-Nov-24 03:29 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Sodium is such a useful industrial metal that it's pretty shocking it's not better integrated into the supply chain [18-Nov-24 03:29 PM] marat_sh#0000 Glass just needs more use cases at least [18-Nov-24 03:30 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 They should add sodium hydroxide as an additional chemical for a variety of processes [18-Nov-24 03:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 yeah it's like 6-7k for fuel and you get $62500 for 2500m3 [18-Nov-24 05:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308213294741585940/image.png?ex=6814ad52&is=68135bd2&hm=93484c219875f6be6f55949633870b5aea69c945a0a1976c5e59907c3df09568& [18-Nov-24 05:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 I went a bit silly {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [18-Nov-24 05:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 I had some rco and pe left over and wanted to use them before removing Heph base ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Nov-24 08:25 AM] marat_sh#0000 HAL prices are still rising ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Nov-24 08:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 I think quite a few people jumped on CL -> EPO train without thinking if there is enough HAL [19-Nov-24 08:47 AM] sidepipe#0000 Guess Iโ€™d better restart my Halcyon operations after all ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Nov-24 08:48 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have 250/d access so far [19-Nov-24 08:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve had an empty base with 3 STO there for a bit - been a PM for so long that I donโ€™t want to pack up and leave [19-Nov-24 08:52 AM] marat_sh#0000 do you have a better use for that permit? [19-Nov-24 08:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 I mean, I almost certainly have a better use than leaving it empty ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Nov-24 08:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 I was thinking of doing INC on halcyon, but if HAL is spiking again maybe I can do a bit of both [19-Nov-24 09:00 AM] sidepipe#0000 Or maybe I should just refocus on more electronics instead - doing BMF and BWS together could be fun [19-Nov-24 09:23 AM] allocater#0000 I think BMF and BWS is oversupplied now. BWS can crash further, but BMF is at least limited by the LOG MM [19-Nov-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, I noticed you started selling at ANT at the same time that I did ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Nov-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m hoping to build up a good stock of BWS and then diversify my electronics a bit [19-Nov-24 10:16 AM] sidepipe#0000 But since I also make a lot of BWS, Iโ€™m happy to crash it a bit further as well ๐Ÿ˜ [19-Nov-24 10:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 wait, we weren't supposed to post all our BWS and BMF on the CX? ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Nov-24 10:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 You are, but you need to do it at really high prices to make mine look better ๐Ÿ˜‰ [19-Nov-24 10:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [19-Nov-24 10:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 of course [19-Nov-24 10:56 AM] sidepipe#0000 But to be completely honest I just underestimated how much BWS was out there - there was almost none listed on ANT when I started putting together the bases for it [19-Nov-24 02:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 is there a difference between liquid and gas H? [19-Nov-24 02:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 like you can build RIG instead of COL for H on some planets [19-Nov-24 03:08 PM] tuffyless#0000 No dif except you'll fit more RIG's than COL's. [19-Nov-24 03:12 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 That planet's either at 20 K or some insanely high pressure [19-Nov-24 03:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 RIGs use less pop and have a faster cycle time too, so it's reaaaaaaaaally nice when you can get rigs [19-Nov-24 03:25 PM] mrsmith33#0000 RIG > COL [19-Nov-24 03:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 is there a map of resources with types? [19-Nov-24 03:28 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I use this one: [19-Nov-24 03:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think that one is pretty solid. Prunplanner has a search too. [19-Nov-24 03:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 You can filter by distances from a system if you want map-like behavior [19-Nov-24 03:29 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Distance to ANT is what matters [19-Nov-24 03:29 PM] archielvahr#0000 the in-game map and the OOG map also do show resources, but I think a list is the only useful way to view it [19-Nov-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you are looking at a resource with mixed types (like here's some EXT H2O), you will have to consider doing your own math: [19-Nov-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308544949926756365/image.png?ex=681490b3&is=68133f33&hm=cc3bbdbd69bc16716e92a852bffb770e813937f1fda9daf96f2ca480e2cc05e4& [19-Nov-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Because it makes that look comparable to Poseidon or Etherwind, but if you make a 500 area base, it's like half the H2O per day [19-Nov-24 03:33 PM] marat_sh#0000 hmm... Thank you ๐Ÿ‘ [19-Nov-24 06:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 is there a list of items that constantly used for POPI? Like OFF, HD, MHP etc [19-Nov-24 06:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 most of them are never used I am just curios what are always used [19-Nov-24 07:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thereโ€™s not really a consistent list. You can look at the governor helper and the second sheet has a list of the most effective upkeep materials. Maybe itโ€™s the third sheet. [19-Nov-24 07:36 PM] marat_sh#0000 oh yeah, I forgot about that one [19-Nov-24 07:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 SOI or PFE maybe. Plus DW and the items you listed will get you pretty far. [19-Nov-24 08:50 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Bober seems unwell [19-Nov-24 08:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Pio and Set shrinking plus the base I threw down didnโ€™t fill pop [19-Nov-24 10:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 that's annoying I was just about to put down a base [19-Nov-24 10:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Tech, Eng and Sci have been upward [19-Nov-24 10:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Just the base two [19-Nov-24 11:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 This is what I've got for bober using Archiels gov sheet {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308658768141357156/Screenshot_2024-11-19_210212.png?ex=6814fab4&is=6813a934&hm=c65e5e6b95956840e4cda155d6688d1a171471b758e17b21dedee565affebb15& [19-Nov-24 11:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1308658920683733043/Screenshot_2024-11-19_210304.png?ex=6814fad8&is=6813a958&hm=608c1408ba56ad9f19904c5448b231add8560df0ab63cdf835168e6e0acb7805& [19-Nov-24 11:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 they have high unemployment [19-Nov-24 11:15 PM] hernanduer#0000 so they can't grow [19-Nov-24 11:16 PM] hernanduer#0000 PIO and SET are both above 10% unemployment, so they're fine I think [19-Nov-24 11:17 PM] .urpalhal#0000 If there was unemployment shouldn't my base's needs for SET been filled? [20-Nov-24 08:18 AM] hernanduer#0000 Yes absolutely, do you have the housing? [20-Nov-24 09:30 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yes I have the full base [20-Nov-24 09:31 AM] .urpalhal#0000 6 HB2 and 5 HBB [20-Nov-24 09:31 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Plus the 16 or so CHPs [21-Nov-24 02:42 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @archielvahr How about 15k/u for AFR? [21-Nov-24 02:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sure. Did I send you zirconium for those or was that someone else? I am not too worried about the prices so whatever makes sense is good. [21-Nov-24 03:01 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Yeah, you sent me 40 ZR for free [21-Nov-24 09:05 PM] evov#0000 hello With respect to entering and maintaining all my production across all my planets... how important is that? What's the net benefit/relevance of it? The idea of manually entering and maintaining those details across 37 bases is... painful. Happy to share the details of all my production if anyone really wants to know. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309354080002506803/image.png?ex=6814df43&is=68138dc3&hm=a6b75a74ebf9bbe88b105ede89aa7893311a8e1a1a997a2d5c6ec875fdc1d32e& [21-Nov-24 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think we should consider retiring that particular page cause it is fairly out of date and folks mostly use the auctions and orders for that. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [21-Nov-24 09:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 ^ plus it's a pain to update it everytime {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [21-Nov-24 09:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 It is also sort of a relic of the early universe when coordinating your 3 bases was really important. And no one had more than 2 or 3 bases [21-Nov-24 09:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 And the list never included all planets, just sort of the core ones. [21-Nov-24 09:14 PM] evov#0000 In the interests of transparency - this is my list of current production capacity. I just don't want to have to manually create and maintain another list somewhere. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309356346579091496/image.png?ex=6814e15f&is=68138fdf&hm=19ef515085b19a01f89250ff9dc7730060dd5eb7fb84af4e6a1c88d094d50b7e& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [21-Nov-24 09:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 Kind of a cool to see a list like this - Iโ€™m still at the stage where I have a lot of single-building bases. The most complicated thing I make is BWS ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Nov-24 09:53 PM] evov#0000 I don't use many external tools, so I kind of have to make sheets for myself to get my head around this mess. That list is just a small part of the sheet I use to manage repair timings, work out total consume/repair usage for my operation etc. ( e.g. 141,671 DW per 90 days required for that list ) [21-Nov-24 09:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 Hey, someone has to keep us food manufacturers in business ๐Ÿ˜‰ [21-Nov-24 09:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve been working on some of my own excel tools for similar things. I feel like prunplanner etc worked fine when I had less bases, but I want a more customizable way to keep track of everything [21-Nov-24 09:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 When you say you donโ€™t use many external tools - do you use any of the APIs, or is it all manual? [21-Nov-24 09:59 PM] evov#0000 Yea, no API's - I play the game through steam. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (2) [21-Nov-24 10:01 PM] evov#0000 There's times when I'm envious of some of the things people do with the API's. But, the flip side of it is that it forces me to make my own tools to manage things. Which has a distinct benefit of answering the specific questions I have, and often gives me a view/perspective that is different from most people (because I'm looking at different information/ analysis). There's good parts and bad parts to it, but that's the ride I'm on so I'll hold on tight and see how it goes. [21-Nov-24 10:02 PM] evov#0000 - I do use prunplanner sometimes - mostly just for planning out a base. Getting the right balance of bui's / habs etc... it's just much better than the custom sheets I made for that task in the early days. [21-Nov-24 10:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 I love it for designing bases, but I canโ€™t get myself to upkeep recipes etc in it ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Nov-24 10:05 PM] evov#0000 I'll also import the fio prices list into my sheets, and derive everything from there. And sometimes use other tools to look for planets with specific resources etc. But I think that's the extent of the external tools I use. [21-Nov-24 10:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 Makes sense! I use a ton of excel in my day job (for better or worse), so Iโ€™ve started having a lot of moments where something in the game bugged me and I decided to try and build a tool for it (in excel ๐Ÿ˜) [22-Nov-24 07:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 HAL to the moon [22-Nov-24 07:56 AM] marat_sh#0000 almost 500/u [22-Nov-24 08:00 AM] marat_sh#0000 Chat... do I 3permit HAL base until price stabilizes? [22-Nov-24 09:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 maybe! I keep needing more and more, and I think the CX might actually run out [22-Nov-24 09:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 incidentally, I am always willing to do a pickup if needed {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [22-Nov-24 09:25 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I changed my HAL base to full EXT [22-Nov-24 09:46 AM] tuffyless#0000 Same as Archy; cant get enough HAL. Can pickup too. [22-Nov-24 09:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Alright ๐Ÿ‘ I will start working on this than {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [22-Nov-24 09:52 AM] tuffyless#0000 As soon as can get the permit, was planning to move INC's to Nascent then go full EXT on Halcyon. Predictably, that's months and months away tho. ๐Ÿ˜ก [22-Nov-24 10:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 I can also set up EXT on Halcyon in the short term - I donโ€™t want to keep a permit there, but HAL gets more expensive every time I try to leave ๐Ÿ˜‚ [22-Nov-24 10:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am gonna need some INS ๐Ÿฅฒ [22-Nov-24 10:12 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309552061804970024/image.png?ex=6814eee5&is=68139d65&hm=9e98a407e46dc35eb52b8f731ec88bee85dcc0b0ade2a1387256bafad0884d1d& [22-Nov-24 10:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve got 8k on ANT ๐Ÿ™‚ [22-Nov-24 10:24 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am not at the computer Can you send me cont for 3400 ? [22-Nov-24 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Congrats on completing your trial, @superbadsounds ! [22-Nov-24 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Your role is now shareholder and I will send the in-game invite [22-Nov-24 10:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 (as soon as you drop your current corp) [22-Nov-24 10:50 AM] superbadsounds#0000 Thanks for having me! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [22-Nov-24 12:25 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Do you guys know how to set planetary materials to the market rate on PrunPlanner? [22-Nov-24 12:28 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I'm having trouble because my Empire CX settings are for buying at offer price and selling at ask. However, for materials I produce myself, what ends up happening is that the price spread of the material gets subtracted from my profits. I know how to manually set the material to a fixed price, but I don't know how to do it to the live market price if that's even possible. [22-Nov-24 12:29 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I donโ€™t thing thatโ€™s possible ๐Ÿค” {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [22-Nov-24 12:31 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309587154833379338/image.png?ex=68150f94&is=6813be14&hm=7ac3bce5ea2509bf0c4c41471489276c1ceaa88286d16dbf557d84f28ca80a02& [22-Nov-24 12:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 the way I do it I just set input materials with cost to make [22-Nov-24 12:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 on the planets where I use them [22-Nov-24 12:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 You could maybe with a sheet and some FรO data [22-Nov-24 12:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Other wise has to be manual [22-Nov-24 12:34 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 This only really works if you're completely vertically integrated through, and that still doesn't factor in worker input costs [22-Nov-24 12:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I think it does, itโ€™s got degradation, workforce and input costs [22-Nov-24 12:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah but some parts of it still help [22-Nov-24 12:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 cost to make does take into the account the consumables and degradation [22-Nov-24 12:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 and it changes from time to time depending on different prices [22-Nov-24 12:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 like on this screenshot I had 1144 cost to make Not it's 1150.16 [22-Nov-24 12:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 Since price for water didn't change that's probably Settler consumables affected price [22-Nov-24 12:53 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Yes, but I'm referring to the fact that you have to take the dynamically calculated value and input it as a fixed one on the next step of your supply chain [22-Nov-24 12:55 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I just set most of the prices to match my internal price {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309592993912721538/image.png?ex=68151504&is=6813c384&hm=f7a8aa3c48a183f429a0aac64435bd3c26e0adf89421c48a54f9a28ec74fff06& [22-Nov-24 12:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 I don't think there is a dynamic setting in Prunplanner. You will have to use API and make your own sheet [22-Nov-24 01:00 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I just requested it as a feature [22-Nov-24 01:01 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Because PrunPlanner gets live FIO data, I'd imagine it's reasonable to allow for specific materials to pick from a different column [22-Nov-24 01:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, it's just an additional feature. But when it was designed I assume it was to create a base in the vacuum of CX prices [22-Nov-24 01:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309603650846593144/image.png?ex=68151ef1&is=6813cd71&hm=08956ef5512e3c83edb08de3191cfc7c5c3a631e0e4048ae9e4849b84019c81c& [22-Nov-24 01:37 PM] marat_sh#0000 new update in prunplanner is so cool [22-Nov-24 03:14 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Playing this game is the only time I've ever wanted a bigger monitor [22-Nov-24 03:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 More monitors is better than bigger one ๐Ÿ™ƒ [22-Nov-24 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 Why not both? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [22-Nov-24 03:22 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I need a separate one for PrunPlanner lmao [22-Nov-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 True... The desk is your limit ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Nov-24 03:23 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Are you one of those people with like 6 monitors? [22-Nov-24 03:23 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have 32in and it's pretty big for my taste [22-Nov-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 Max I had was 4 ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Nov-24 03:24 PM] marat_sh#0000 now only one 32 in [22-Nov-24 03:24 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh wtf, that's massive [22-Nov-24 03:44 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Do we have MG/MGS producers in corp? [22-Nov-24 04:21 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 i only produce tiny amounts of both. [22-Nov-24 05:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have some MG saved up after breaking bases [22-Nov-24 05:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 not planning to use anytime soon [22-Nov-24 05:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 1736 MG [22-Nov-24 06:11 PM] tuffyless#0000 Not since Churaviis left us best I know. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Been buying MGS from CX myself. [22-Nov-24 07:29 PM] marat_sh#0000 I went from 'maybe' making 120k per day to MAKING 340k per day... It was a W decision to rebrand {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™Œ [22-Nov-24 07:34 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/money-nft-crypto-bitcoin-superman-gif-12859401495216059959 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/money-nft-crypto-bitcoin-superman-gif-12859401495216059959 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/G3ptTjMAb9OZXjqV83hnhj4CYdRUbhTFQmRP1ghmVeQ/https/media.tenor.com/snXFhyJ69jcAAAAe/money-nft.png [22-Nov-24 07:43 PM] evov#0000 Question regarding the Auctions/Orders system ( which looks very cool btw ) Wondering what the basic protocol / acceptable standards are for using it. Is there a limit on how much/how often it gets used? Is there a baseline assumption on who draws the cont's up at the end of the auction? Typically the person posting the auction/order or typically the person/people filling the auction/order? Relevance for the question - this is my consume/repairs shopping list for the week and don't really want to flood or overwhelm the system. Typically I'd post these on the CX as bid's, spread out across the CX's as needed. But if people have bulk stock they're looking to unload, I'm happy to keep the cash/trade as local as possible. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309695755887443998/image.png?ex=6814cbf9&is=68137a79&hm=3904747599e6251c5f07a8d56d383435b15feaa1bd6e7472b2bc3d6394ee8ebb& [22-Nov-24 08:05 PM] zipatsu#0000 I can only speak from my own experience but generally for auctions I draw up the contracts myself while for orders I get them sent to me (unless the player's running on Basic of course) For the auctions it's just whenever you have something you want to offload you can list it, for the orders I don't think there's really a usage limit to it but more of a limit of how much someone has on hand / wants to supply so it regulates itself in that regard. Other than that, I don't think it's a set rule but personally I do try to have some stuff to offer up myself as well every now and then so that there's some give & take going on rather than it just being me asking for yet another few thousand discounted Afabs for my H2O empire without providing anything for others in return โœŒ๏ธ [22-Nov-24 08:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 Auction if you want to give something and orders if you need something (people will try to fill orders if they can) [22-Nov-24 08:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 I prefer auction instead of orders. If it's a ship upgrade or base building, I use orders [22-Nov-24 08:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 everyone set their own price that they think is fair (or use search in the channel to see prev price on auction for that item ๐Ÿ˜… ) [22-Nov-24 08:18 PM] evov#0000 The prices I've got in that list are about what I think I'll be able to get them filled for on the CX. Anything that goes unfilled just gets added onto next week's list. I aim to keep at least 100 days worth of consumes/repairs. So it's rare that any of these items are urgent. But if people broadly view the system as an internal market where it's favors being exchanged rather than just materials/currency, I'd rather keep clear of it and avoid any potential drama. [22-Nov-24 08:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 i doubt there would be any drama if you're buying at near CX prices ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Nov-24 08:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 I had a same opinion on that when I joined... Had hard time to see what price fair and what is not... Sometimes it felt like screwing someone over ๐Ÿ˜… But then I just went along with it and posted auctions regularly (PE and PSMs) every 3rd day [22-Nov-24 08:20 PM] marat_sh#0000 ordering at BID is always fair in my opinion [22-Nov-24 08:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 for example, I often auction FIM internally at about 1.5k/u [22-Nov-24 08:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 so I wouldn't feel taken advantage of if you posted an order at 2k/u ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Nov-24 08:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 plus it's all voluntary, no one needs to fill any orders at prices they can't match [22-Nov-24 08:22 PM] marat_sh#0000 ^ you don't have to use them [22-Nov-24 08:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 Think of it as a WTB or WTS, not an obligation [22-Nov-24 08:23 PM] evov#0000 I keep a track of my CX activity. So it's handy to be able to look back and see what the average price is that I've ACTUALLY paid for goods over time. So I'll typically look at that, and what the prices are at now, before deciding on what I'm willing to pay for goods each week. Fim for example -> {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309705792475107358/image.png?ex=6814d552&is=681383d2&hm=347a7d7ed76c72671842f5e614d8c61bdb747b6d11e51c60cc002dd9a0c7de36& [22-Nov-24 08:25 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 This is my benchmark too [22-Nov-24 08:25 PM] evov#0000 So if I'm typically spending 2k per fim to MrRandom FoodProcessor (usually in HRT) - I'd gladly give 2k/ fim to Mr Local Antare's Chad. But I do understand if people view these sorts of markets as more than just an exchange of goods/currency .... so wanted to get a feel for the "cultural" norms before I start dropping 20mil worth of orders in here every week haha [22-Nov-24 08:27 PM] marat_sh#0000 I see orders like (damn I need this item but CX price stings) and not like a grocery shop you go every week ๐Ÿ˜… But that's just me... That's why I prefer auctions when people willingly give items [22-Nov-24 08:27 PM] evov#0000 INS - a different example - typically I've paid a lot less, but the prices on the CX have gone up a lot lately, so I'd expect to pay around 135 instead of a historical 127. And I'm sure there's examples where it's moved in the other direction as well. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1309706903768793108/image.png?ex=6814d65b&is=681384db&hm=1692a3ceea60d938c90d7d34177783c228c4ded6fefe6717eebe040e5814863e& [22-Nov-24 08:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 And INS will probably get worse since PiBoy is winding down his production ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [22-Nov-24 08:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Also, @evov - if youโ€™re wanting to do more shopping-list style orders, check out the project command [22-Nov-24 08:40 PM] evov#0000 I don't see project command anywhere? [22-Nov-24 08:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh. Let me see [22-Nov-24 08:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 I think it might only work in #orders and #orders-ships [22-Nov-24 08:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 Or we have a permissions issue on our hands with the trial role ๐Ÿค” [22-Nov-24 08:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 `/project` doesn't bring anything up for you? [22-Nov-24 08:44 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Iโ€™m producing INS now [22-Nov-24 08:44 PM] evov#0000 Probably. Like I said, I'm happy to keep doing things the way I've been doing. I'm dropping 20-40mil into the CX each week, happy for that to be more focused here if people feel like it's a net benefit. If not, totally fine. The order/auction system here seems like a pretty low friction way of handling large orders, but even the smallest amount of drama drives that friction through the roof haha. project 6115 is the only project I see. [22-Nov-24 08:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 Oh, gotcha - I mean the `/project` command for the discord bot ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Nov-24 08:45 PM] sidepipe#0000 basically lets you batch a bunch of individual orders into one big post - and lets people suggest different prices [22-Nov-24 08:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 How you use the internal market is really up to you - if you're buying roughly near CX bid prices, I doubt there would ever be any drama even if you never sold a single thing internally {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [22-Nov-24 08:59 PM] tuffyless#0000 Whenever I see prices either Auction or Order dont wanna trade at, I simply scroll past it. No drama. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (4) ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Nov-24 09:04 PM] tuffyless#0000 Personally I think the auctions should be a gave-n-take. If you buy things at a discount, then should sell other things at a discount. Different sellers, different buyers, different mats, etc will be involved ... so it all gets divy'd up. Services excluded, such as Archy w/ Ship-Building aggregations, the OOG bank admin, etc. [22-Nov-24 09:10 PM] tuffyless#0000 And while Im thinking & typing - I'd suggest that anything below the CX Ask is fair for posting (*whether current or average*). Times/Prices change and IMO just because an auction happened 2 months ago at "Price A" doesnt mean that that's the cap today. [22-Nov-24 09:11 PM] tuffyless#0000 I mean ... postings at higher than CX wouldnt make sense eh. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ So anything below it may well get the attention. [22-Nov-24 09:19 PM] tuffyless#0000 I remember SF going for like 8? or was it for 9? When I joined OOG; forget. But now ... its kinda doesnt make sense. [23-Nov-24 05:44 AM] akyantor#0000 Itโ€™s a totally voluntary system, so super chill from my perspective. I put some stuff on the system and some stuff on the CX. I like to participate as I normally get some things a little cheaper, and so like to offer some of my own stuff a little cheaper. But no oneโ€™s keeping track of anythingโ€ฆ so up to an individual on how they want to use itโ€ฆ as someone said if you donโ€™t like the price of an auction or order just scroll on by. ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} โค๏ธ [23-Nov-24 10:03 AM] mrsmith33#0000 1 plot available on Deimos [23-Nov-24 11:35 AM] allocater#0000 is there a meme for that? ๐Ÿ˜„ [23-Nov-24 05:46 PM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1310028680780709918/Deimos.png?ex=6814b088&is=68135f08&hm=85cbc69489a25b1be578df18417727e2ea20b11f7429f53b249398dd84682d6c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (14) [25-Nov-24 10:40 AM] allocater#0000 https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/e-JmtBVba7uT0gzg30Pmqqg1eiCEWHBUiVUPq1ZyG94/https/media.tenor.com/H1-R8Mum3nwAAAAe/perfection-perfect.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ [26-Nov-24 01:53 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Did you guys figure out how to import the old pmmg financial data onto the new one? [26-Nov-24 01:53 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I have it stored as a json, but I can't seem to load it in [26-Nov-24 01:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 (pinned) Reposting these from Razenpok earlier {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1311057653035700224/image.png?ex=68152316&is=6813d196&hm=6209976dc71a8d064ba37caccb572923dab7ce9427dfe6f029aa80ef735f8835& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1311057653367308329/image.png?ex=68152316&is=6813d196&hm=5007fc182ca9337b52795d6a6e9404891dc2e1c5e05cbf71aa92aed40a686ffd& [26-Nov-24 01:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 So make sure you turn off PMMG and do the import in XIT SET PMMG [26-Nov-24 01:56 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 It worked! Thank you [26-Nov-24 01:58 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Where is all of this new equity coming from lmao [26-Nov-24 01:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 Ships count towards your wealth now [26-Nov-24 01:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ooh [26-Nov-24 01:59 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I am wealthy [26-Nov-24 01:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 even if you can't sell them [26-Nov-24 01:59 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Ah, I was always a bit troubled by that in pmmg [26-Nov-24 02:00 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I don't think that accounts for all of my equity gain, but it is nice to have that included [26-Nov-24 02:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 Big fan of this extension - Iโ€™ve been helping beta-test it and I like it a lot ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Nov-24 02:00 PM] marat_sh#0000 health % on ships is massive {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [26-Nov-24 02:03 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Did they use the desmos calculator? ๐Ÿ˜‚ [26-Nov-24 05:16 PM] exeler#0000 I was poking at the prosperous bot a little today and thought I'd share a few interesting numbers from the database. So far there have been: * 1645 Auctions * 2042 Orders * 81 Projects * 562 project items And that's all been entirely in this discord server. This has been by far my most widely used personal project, so thanks everyone for really embracing it ๐Ÿ™‚ The top 10 users of the auction feature have done between 90-160 auctions each. The top 10 orders users have done 70-280 orders each. The top user of projects has started almost half of all projects, and has 4x as many as the next highest user. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ“ˆ (7) โœŒ๏ธ [26-Nov-24 05:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Wow [26-Nov-24 05:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 Any chance the bot records the total $$$ amount of orders / auctions? ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Nov-24 05:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 It helps so much, nice work with it ๐Ÿ˜„ [26-Nov-24 05:55 PM] exeler#0000 It does, I can grab those numbers too if you want. I'm away from my PC again, but I'll do some more SQL next time I'm there. If you've got any other interesting questions, let me know and I can get the answers for ya [26-Nov-24 05:55 PM] exeler#0000 Or, the database doesn't store the totals directly, but they can be calculated easily. [26-Nov-24 05:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 Not at all important or urgent, I was just curious how much commerce your bot has enabled ๐Ÿ™‚ [26-Nov-24 05:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 More orders than auctions, that's a little surprising! [26-Nov-24 05:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 Weโ€™re clearly _demanding_ people ๐Ÿ˜‰ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [26-Nov-24 05:58 PM] exeler#0000 Yeah, and by a decent margin too. It's especially interesting since orders is a newer feature and these numbers are for basically the entire lifetime of the bot [26-Nov-24 05:59 PM] sidepipe#0000 Though, I wouldnโ€™t be surprised if itโ€™s just because orders show up in your CONTS, while you have to draft a bunch for auctions [26-Nov-24 06:02 PM] exeler#0000 That's probably a factor. I think running auctions also only applies for certain play styles. Like basically my entire company is based around making mass quantities of widely consumed goods. So basically all my income comes from auctions. If you're going for higher tier goods though, it makes less and less sense to do the auctions, but more and more sense to do orders for the large quantities of things you need. Orders are also useful for grabbing small quantities of things that might be harder to find. [26-Nov-24 06:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I make more orders than auctions I think [26-Nov-24 06:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like I bid on half the auctions because I need a lot of everything to make ship parts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [26-Nov-24 06:06 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 There might be more material that is sold via auctions since those seem to be more bulk sales than the smaller ones of orders [26-Nov-24 06:31 PM] exeler#0000 That's an interesting question I think I can dig up an answer for. I should be able to compare the volume of goods that go through both in terms of item count and monetary value. [27-Nov-24 10:29 AM] katinga#0000 if you need TI, lemme know {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [27-Nov-24 10:36 AM] allocater#0000 Pinned a message. [27-Nov-24 12:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 anyone in corp need / want SIO at ANT? I have 1.2k because I messed up my buildings at Halcyon ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Nov-24 12:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 if not, I'll just start turning it all into MCG [27-Nov-24 12:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 I'll buy the MCG ๐Ÿคฃ [27-Nov-24 03:08 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1311438473860743250/image.png?ex=68148b81&is=68133a01&hm=c957da7842e18cf724ba52ac11a22a4510b0737d0fae43fef68c55679bc36be9& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [27-Nov-24 04:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 lol [27-Nov-24 04:27 PM] hernanduer#0000 also only 3 people on the HMS auction? Normally I get the whole dang corp [27-Nov-24 04:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, Iโ€™ll increase my bid if no one else is buying ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Nov-24 05:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I started a bunch of CLFs to make space tethers. I may have jumped the gun on them [27-Nov-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Dang the new extension shows your ship status [27-Nov-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1311481766103744542/image.png?ex=6814b3d3&is=68136253&hm=3c072731930bb70da2475078cc12d5619263f0814847c712ac7927517bff7409& [27-Nov-24 06:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 you can tell which ones have shields ๐Ÿ˜† [27-Nov-24 10:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 and which ones are poor, neglected STL ships ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Nov-24 10:20 PM] evov#0000 I find the order/auction system interesting. It's a nice discord tool, but the way people interact with it seems a bit surprising to me. For example - there's a few items I've offered to buy... and a short time after making those offers, people auctioning the same items, for less than I was already willing to pay. I would gladly buy all your HMS at your price - but thought it would be more polite to just order the amount I was originally chasing ๐Ÿ™‚ [27-Nov-24 10:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 no need to worry about being polite, that's why we have the bot ๐Ÿ˜„ [27-Nov-24 10:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 it solves the problem of allocating things fairly quite nicely, imo [27-Nov-24 10:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 and every once in a while, no one else bids and you end up with 900k PE. I still have 220k of that left [27-Nov-24 10:26 PM] evov#0000 I think I bought 1.8mil of PE off all the CX's last week. I'll use it up eventually if I ever get around to shipping it back to the mother land of the ANT cx warehouse [27-Nov-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 This is probably just because the auction system makes it a lot easier not to pay attention to prices, heh [27-Nov-24 10:28 PM] tuffyless#0000 It's like Amazon {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [27-Nov-24 10:31 PM] sidepipe#0000 on a completely different topic - the 'custom currency symbol' setting in rPrun accepts emoji: {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1311549994423160886/image.png?ex=6814f35e&is=6813a1de&hm=45846d4c64883e4e62b3f90d527a6ec189fab4eacf1b18b4027834736bacf3f9& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… โ€ผ๏ธ [27-Nov-24 10:59 PM] superbadsounds#0000 So I got the galaxy tier for test server access, and now I've got this sytem naming thing burning a hole in my pocket.. First thoughts were LS-231 as "Gateway", maybe "Midway", or RC-040 as "Antares Minor" but I'm open to suggestions. It could be funny to continue the Antares colonization, but also LS-231 is going to be higher traffic {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (3) [28-Nov-24 01:51 AM] exeler#0000 For me sometimes I come late to an order and it's already fulfilled. But the order reminds me I have a ton of an item sitting at the CX, so I'll run an auction to see if anyone else also wanted some. For me at least, the auctions are convenient because 99% of the time everything gets sold and I can send out the contracts all at once. The auction system also came about initially when we were a little more specialized. I know at the time I was one of the only HE producers, so I used the auctions a fair bit just to make sure everyone had some. Now I use them as a way to unload 1200 LHP at the same time without killing the CX prices ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Nov-24 01:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 anyone interested in some REA? [28-Nov-24 01:48 PM] marat_sh#0000 if yes what your consumption rate? [28-Nov-24 03:21 PM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™d be interested in more than 2% efficiency at my own REA base, for sure ๐Ÿ˜‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Nov-24 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 I think I will be just stockpiling REA until Vortex fuel {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Nov-24 01:59 AM] melon164#0000 Nyx and Styx, I like it ๐Ÿ˜ [30-Nov-24 04:54 AM] superbadsounds#0000 It's got a nice ring to it for sure. I like Orion, but that's also one of my cats' names, so it felt selfish to go with that over something more symbolic of the gateway. The rhyme is a plus! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [30-Nov-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 ANT definitely has the best names [30-Nov-24 10:54 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! [30-Nov-24 10:54 AM] timomurbekov#0000 I have an option to name 1 planet [30-Nov-24 11:51 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ooh do you have any ides? [30-Nov-24 11:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 LS-231c just got the system named "Styx", but the planet that will have the gateway doesn't have a name yet! [30-Nov-24 11:52 AM] archielvahr#0000 I wonder what the most populated un-named planet in ANT is {Reactions} โค๏ธ [30-Nov-24 11:58 AM] allocater#0000 Did sombody ask for greek names for a gateway planet? Aephyria (ฮ‘ฮนฯ†ฯฯฮนฮฑ) โ€“ Boundless Passage: Derived from aei (eternal) and phyra (passage). [30-Nov-24 12:00 PM] allocater#0000 Hekaton - Drawing from Hekatompylos, the ancient city of a hundred gates. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) [30-Nov-24 12:06 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Be honest no ideas. Will be glad to use it based on corp decision. [30-Nov-24 12:10 PM] melon164#0000 Aephyria is a beautiful name [30-Nov-24 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ooh those are good [30-Nov-24 01:02 PM] zipatsu#0000 Lithos ||Sticks and Stone(s) :D|| {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1312493919220662433/image.png?ex=681516b7&is=6813c537&hm=787b05babe44a4ca3d80aeeea3e4a3129170f594c10cf4f55bf6b36c49125365& [30-Nov-24 01:15 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I like both of these ALOT [30-Nov-24 01:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Gotta save Lithos for a LST planet though {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (3) [30-Nov-24 01:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 no LSE ๐Ÿฅฒ {Reactions} โ” [30-Nov-24 01:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 sorry just interjecting [30-Nov-24 01:44 PM] hernanduer#0000 CX is lacking LSE [30-Nov-24 01:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh [30-Nov-24 01:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 You need some [30-Nov-24 01:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ? [30-Nov-24 01:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 was just planning repairs but it can wait [30-Nov-24 01:48 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I have some ๐Ÿ˜† [30-Nov-24 01:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 131 at ant and like 50 more coming to ant [30-Nov-24 01:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 probably fetch a pretty penny on the CX selling them right now [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 lol I could [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I do put up like 200 up [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I think they all sold tho [30-Nov-24 01:51 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I'm top of that, I'm buying like 300 this week [30-Nov-24 01:52 PM] superbadsounds#0000 Though may pull some from BEN if we're lacking down here [30-Nov-24 01:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 I have 97 at ANT if anyone needs more, just send me conts! [30-Nov-24 01:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 I listed them at extortionate (15k) prices on the CX, but will pull them down for folks who need them ๐Ÿ˜ [30-Nov-24 02:03 PM] sidepipe#0000 @.urpalhal those prices arenโ€™t nearly high enough ๐Ÿ˜‰ [30-Nov-24 02:04 PM] .urpalhal#0000 What like 10k? [30-Nov-24 02:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Nah Iโ€™m just kidding, 8k is perfectly reasonable [30-Nov-24 02:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 But you could totally sell a few at 10k before other people have a chance to list [30-Nov-24 02:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Maybe [30-Nov-24 02:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Or maybe theyโ€™ll just chill there [01-Dec-24 01:43 PM] superbadsounds#0000 Deimos is up to 16 available permits. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [01-Dec-24 01:44 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I feel silly for rushing so dramatically to get a base setup there 5 days ago [01-Dec-24 04:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Wow, I'm sort of surprised it went down that far [01-Dec-24 10:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Out of curiosity, do we know who bought all the COF on ANT? [01-Dec-24 10:26 PM] .urpalhal#0000 [01-Dec-24 10:26 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Me ๐Ÿ˜Š [01-Dec-24 10:26 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Jk {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [01-Dec-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Partly wondering if it all got shipped to MOR [01-Dec-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 like all the C that got shipped out. Which really wasn't that disruptive [01-Dec-24 10:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 but COF is easier to ship [02-Dec-24 12:27 PM] timomurbekov#0000 Hey guys! So what is our decision? Which name and which planet? [02-Dec-24 12:28 PM] katinga#0000 Janeway. She got tired of chasing down nebulas for it [02-Dec-24 12:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Cause she didn't have Raktajino [02-Dec-24 01:31 PM] melon164#0000 I put my card down ๐Ÿคท [02-Dec-24 01:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like I'm tied on Aephyria vs Hekaton. I think Aephyria sounds more in line with other planets in the area [02-Dec-24 01:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 Anyone else?? [02-Dec-24 01:37 PM] katinga#0000 Dax was the Raktajino addict [02-Dec-24 01:39 PM] katinga#0000 for which planet? which system? [02-Dec-24 01:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Styx planet c, formerly LS-231c... aka the one with a bunch of gateways coming! [02-Dec-24 01:41 PM] katinga#0000 I can't even find that system [02-Dec-24 01:44 PM] archielvahr#0000 towards BEN, it's between etherwind and griffonstone [02-Dec-24 01:44 PM] katinga#0000 Ugh... so the map has a beecomb called LS way past the green dots [02-Dec-24 01:45 PM] katinga#0000 would it be cheeky to name a planet after one of Styx's songs or albums? [02-Dec-24 01:46 PM] roche3950#0000 Depends on which [02-Dec-24 01:52 PM] katinga#0000 I was in the kitchen the other day and wound up with Too Much Thyme On My Hands {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [02-Dec-24 01:53 PM] roche3950#0000 https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/67HKCUnmbCq3G5lCm0RkfbceBvgBAFlqDwM0q0fVZ8w/https/media.tenor.com/27Atub3mjoMAAAAe/jordan-stop-it.png [02-Dec-24 01:54 PM] katinga#0000 ... and it's tickin away. tickin away from me... ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Dec-24 01:55 PM] katinga#0000 Well my favorite Styx song would be too deep a cut. I doubt anyone in the game would get it [02-Dec-24 01:56 PM] roche3950#0000 Youโ€™d be seen as some kind of renegade giving planets odd names [02-Dec-24 01:57 PM] katinga#0000 Lorenzo Lamas on a Harley?! or is that too deep a cut ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Dec-24 02:02 PM] sidepipe#0000 To be fair, there is a planet named Asbestos Lead Asbestos - I feel like it doesnโ€™t get deeper than that ๐Ÿ˜ [02-Dec-24 02:03 PM] katinga#0000 there's also a Wet Water planet somewhere [02-Dec-24 02:06 PM] roche3950#0000 Boucher [02-Dec-24 02:09 PM] roche3950#0000 100% got me [02-Dec-24 02:09 PM] roche3950#0000 I mean, I briefly considered naming a system and planets after months of the French Revolution so [02-Dec-24 02:10 PM] roche3950#0000 unless @marat_sh is with me on it โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Dec-24 02:11 PM] allocater#0000 [02-Dec-24 02:12 PM] katinga#0000 Is there a planet called Cerberos? the dog guarding the underwold? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ก (2) [02-Dec-24 02:15 PM] allocater#0000 (multiple votes are possible) [02-Dec-24 02:17 PM] roche3950#0000 Hecate is actually an awesome idea. [02-Dec-24 02:31 PM] katinga#0000 ugh 935 at ANT now because of it [02-Dec-24 02:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 just listed some COF on auction [02-Dec-24 02:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 But I will fill yours also, I have a fair bit stocked up ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Dec-24 04:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also, welcome @bookliko, you have completed the trial! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [02-Dec-24 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I sent the in-game invite ๐ŸŽ‰ [02-Dec-24 11:25 PM] bookliko#0000 https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7898695231799564452 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7898695231799564452 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XQrzwBlNqh2WnCD7pJoitLHRQMaHh-JNKsMi77hGkm0/https/media.tenor.com/bZ3Ndth8GKQAAAAe/cat.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [03-Dec-24 11:27 AM] tyrandia#0000 Hey how is everyone today? โค๏ธ [03-Dec-24 11:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/wonderful-perfect-brother-nero-matt-hardy-wrestling-gif-6132013 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/wonderful-perfect-brother-nero-matt-hardy-wrestling-gif-6132013 Wonderful! https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/cUtwaexGMye8l4mPnPONDgBCeGAjQImHN0l_aWlnhD0/https/media.tenor.com/hO7GI5GA59YAAAAe/wonderful-perfect.png [03-Dec-24 11:29 AM] tyrandia#0000 Amazing. [03-Dec-24 01:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Gooooooooooooood morning ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [03-Dec-24 02:07 PM] marat_sh#0000 Forgot 9 BTA ๐Ÿฅฒ when was packing HQ upgrade, upkeep and base expansion in one goโ€ฆ HAL base has to wait one more day ๐Ÿ˜… [03-Dec-24 02:49 PM] melon164#0000 This is when you break out the 100t/100m3 yacht ๐Ÿ˜‰ [03-Dec-24 02:49 PM] melon164#0000 Iโ€™ve done that _so_ many times [03-Dec-24 02:49 PM] melon164#0000 Usually with TRU for some reason {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [03-Dec-24 03:08 PM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™ve gotta get one of those ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Dec-24 03:08 PM] roche3950#0000 A proper Razorback [03-Dec-24 08:41 PM] roche3950#0000 o/ [03-Dec-24 08:42 PM] roche3950#0000 just want to make sure I'm using the sheet right to generate an order for some base materials. when trying to use /auction I get a prompt for the different args, but the sheet only kicks out something like `MCGx234@15,TRUx8@300,BBHx87@1200,BDEx96@1200,BSEx69@1000,BTAx12@800,LDEx4@3500,LSEx4@5500,LTAx4@2000,PSLx12@3000` not sure what I'm missing, woul be really helpful to use this correctly. [03-Dec-24 08:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 you'll want to use the `/project` command for that ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Dec-24 08:43 PM] roche3950#0000 thx [03-Dec-24 08:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 you can just type it in and it'll bring up a dialog for ya [03-Dec-24 11:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also, since we have a bunch of new members lately: if anyone wants to write posts for the website, let me know! You can basically just send me the text and I'll set it up for you. Pretty much anything you want [04-Dec-24 01:59 PM] superbadsounds#0000 Well, largely due to the fine people in this group, I hit my goal of 21 permits ahead of schedule! I've still got some optimization to accomplish in my food production lines, but things are coming together quite nicely. Thanks everyone! {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) [04-Dec-24 01:59 PM] superbadsounds#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1313957783468642465/image.png?ex=6815240b&is=6813d28b&hm=a4d1a2b436f5883c967688aa1596e5380345fe7432c757947b3f5c70e1eff9f8& [05-Dec-24 02:11 PM] allocater#0000 {Embed} poll_question_text LS-231c will become victor_answer_votes 8 total_votes 31 victor_answer_id 2 victor_answer_text Hekaton (City of a thousand gates) {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (3) [05-Dec-24 02:12 PM] roche3950#0000 ๐ŸŽ‰ [05-Dec-24 02:14 PM] allocater#0000 โ˜๏ธ the poll has finished [05-Dec-24 02:42 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Do you there'd be demand for a commodities futures trading bot? [05-Dec-24 02:43 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I think having a derivatives market would reduce volatility for key resources [05-Dec-24 02:44 PM] roche3950#0000 Possible but people can ostensibly set up a future between themselves [05-Dec-24 02:44 PM] roche3950#0000 Just have a long-dated buy/sell ct [05-Dec-24 02:44 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Yes, but it'd be much more efficient to have a centralized ledger [05-Dec-24 02:46 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Surely it is very inconvenient to have to shop around from someone to provide you the desired resource, and there would be a benefit for having someplace where all the offers are available [05-Dec-24 02:47 PM] roche3950#0000 Agree [05-Dec-24 02:47 PM] roche3950#0000 I just wonder what your tam would be vs the playerbase [05-Dec-24 02:48 PM] roche3950#0000 i.e., would it be relevant enough for enough players to be worth developing if itโ€™s just for funsies, though, you will always have my full support ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Dec-24 02:50 PM] roche3950#0000 (note: sincerely donโ€™t mean any hostility, realize my last remark might come off a bit more biting than intended) [05-Dec-24 02:53 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I think there's several use cases for it. 1) Transferring Risk : if you have an incompletely vertically integrated production chain, you can pay a small upfront fee to a futures seller who would act as an insurance against undue price increases in your input resources, thus guaranteeing a fixed profit margin. 2) Increase liquidity: for new players, the ability to sell future production is invaluable in spurring further growth by providing cash up front, and serves as an alternative/compliment to starter loans 3) Passive income: for large established players, futures allow them to make money from insuring smaller players when the only current alternative are loan interest and spread trading [05-Dec-24 02:54 PM] roche3950#0000 well 1 is the fundamental use case of a future 2 is clever [05-Dec-24 02:55 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 No offense taken, it's just a project I thought of to work on over break ๐Ÿ˜‚ [05-Dec-24 02:57 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Black-Scholes has some rather fascinating math behind it [05-Dec-24 02:58 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 If anyone else has comments/critiques of this, I'd love to hear it [05-Dec-24 03:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 I was buying big batches of LCBs with payments up front from Insula. like 4m at a time, 30d or maybe more. Worked well til they disappeared [05-Dec-24 03:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 if it's a non-prepaid agreement at a fixed price, I'd be happy to do those all day long [05-Dec-24 03:20 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Well, it is semi-prepaid, as you pay an upfront fee to the seller independent of the price of the goods [05-Dec-24 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 I actually tried pricing options on different commodities like RAT and FIM with black scholes as practice for a certification exam a while back. Mathematically, nothing's stopping you - I was looking at 1 day returns and most commodities are overdispersed compared to a lognormal distribution, but that's just like real life [05-Dec-24 03:23 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 What was your method for calculating IV? [05-Dec-24 03:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 IV = implied volatility? [05-Dec-24 03:25 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Yeah [05-Dec-24 03:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 let me find my code somewhere [05-Dec-24 03:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 but I think it was just the standard deviation of all the lognormal returns [05-Dec-24 03:28 PM] roche3950#0000 CFA? ;p [05-Dec-24 03:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 nope, actuary ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Dec-24 03:29 PM] sidepipe#0000 standard deviation of the 1-day log returns {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Dec-24 03:30 PM] roche3950#0000 remember that IV should be annualized usually ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Dec-24 03:30 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 One year is an eternity in this game though [05-Dec-24 03:30 PM] roche3950#0000 so just take the 1d return and multiply by in this case sqrt(365) [05-Dec-24 03:31 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Oh, I thought you were referring to averaging other data into it [05-Dec-24 03:31 PM] roche3950#0000 IV is definitively the optionโ€™s expectation of what a 1sd move looks like over the next year {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Dec-24 03:32 PM] roche3950#0000 well, what the optionโ€™s price *implies* about the *volatility* ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Dec-24 03:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 i wish discord supported math notation [05-Dec-24 03:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 but what I did is the following: BSM says this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314344458921316412/image.png?ex=681491ea&is=6813406a&hm=450b0cd988cb289a5189a163b184258b44fd52c040eb03ecd79f7ff66372df37& [05-Dec-24 03:36 PM] sidepipe#0000 and so I estimated sigma by taking ln(close at t / close at t-1) from FIO data and using the sample standard deviation of that [05-Dec-24 03:37 PM] sidepipe#0000 and then priced 7-day options by doing this whole thing with t=7' {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314344905824538706/image.png?ex=68149254&is=681340d4&hm=e99ff301bfed5e1efa624112660fc6ca55be267b6e96850013621bf25893e413& [05-Dec-24 03:38 PM] sidepipe#0000 i don't know if that sigma is actually the implied volatility you mentioned or not [05-Dec-24 03:40 PM] roche3950#0000 are you assuming no early exercise? ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Dec-24 03:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 yup, european options, constant volatility, constant interest rate [05-Dec-24 03:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 cause that's what was on my exam ๐Ÿ˜› [05-Dec-24 03:41 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 With the way contracts work in-game, there's not a good mechanism to implement the American version [05-Dec-24 03:42 PM] sidepipe#0000 anyway, using FIM as an example, you can see the data fits a lognormal distribution fairly well, but with fat tails {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314346261045841950/image.png?ex=68149398&is=68134218&hm=ce538129b58f1293abb73bf43db242038b0be57d64882006cc98f2f3b8aa57b3& [05-Dec-24 03:43 PM] roche3950#0000 There really isnโ€™t lol [05-Dec-24 03:43 PM] roche3950#0000 Price returns tend to have fat tails ๐Ÿ˜„ indeed [05-Dec-24 03:43 PM] roche3950#0000 Was an exercise I remember from college, returns are usually **almost** normally distributed [05-Dec-24 03:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 i think the biggest practical obstacles are that there's no real risk-free interest rate in the game, and that it would be way too easy to manipulate the market [05-Dec-24 03:45 PM] roche3950#0000 Just have the major lenders submit something like LIBOR [05-Dec-24 03:45 PM] roche3950#0000 This could certainly not be manipulated [05-Dec-24 03:45 PM] roche3950#0000 ๐Ÿ™ƒ [05-Dec-24 03:45 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Isn't the 2% interest offered by lowstrife and co. effectively the risk-free interest? [05-Dec-24 03:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 yeah, but you need to be able to both lend and borrow at 2% {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [05-Dec-24 03:47 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Huh [05-Dec-24 03:48 PM] sidepipe#0000 don't get me wrong, I think it'd be cool as a proof of concept, and I'd definitely buy a few options just to try it ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Dec-24 03:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 but as a commercial venture, I think it would be challenging. i think it'd be cool if we could financialize prun to that degree though [05-Dec-24 03:49 PM] roche3950#0000 Donโ€™t forget skew ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Dec-24 03:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 some of the other markets look even worse (by BS standards anyway) - here's DW.AI1 for example {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314348344738582620/image.png?ex=68149588&is=68134408&hm=76712eaa46e028a732ac52180df88cdf1aa9ac4a59fe827a49fb84c63cac9424& [05-Dec-24 03:51 PM] roche3950#0000 I think the assets having โ€œlegal price bandsโ€ might mess with options pricing a bit [05-Dec-24 03:51 PM] roche3950#0000 Going long a call essentially has a fixed max payout right [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 @sidepipe Were you the one who made the auction/order bot? [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 no, absolutely not ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 that was @exeler [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Ah [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 this is just some pretty rudimentary R code [05-Dec-24 03:52 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 R ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [05-Dec-24 03:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 i know haha [05-Dec-24 03:54 PM] sidepipe#0000 but to be fair, it is really good for this sort of thing [05-Dec-24 03:56 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 I canโ€™t really judge, I do some stuff in Fortran ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ (5) [05-Dec-24 03:56 PM] sidepipe#0000 they do, but it's in the option writer's favor since they limit the max payout of a call or put [05-Dec-24 03:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 (I know puts technically have a max payout already, but it's limited even more by the MM lower bound) [05-Dec-24 04:00 PM] roche3950#0000 indeed [05-Dec-24 04:00 PM] roche3950#0000 but I think then (and for the record: not thinking too hard since, though I love you all, I donโ€™t want to work twice) [05-Dec-24 04:00 PM] roche3950#0000 to most fairly price those options youโ€™d effectively have to price a call or a put as a spread where the other strike is the price band [05-Dec-24 04:02 PM] roche3950#0000 A call on DW with K=70 should be priced as a call spread with Klower = 70 and Kupper = 121(iirc?) [05-Dec-24 04:03 PM] sidepipe#0000 that would probably be the fairest approach. but since you're going through all the trouble of writing the options anyway, you could just pocket the difference ๐Ÿ˜‰ [05-Dec-24 04:06 PM] roche3950#0000 something something โ€œbest executionโ€ [05-Dec-24 04:06 PM] roche3950#0000 heh [05-Dec-24 04:06 PM] roche3950#0000 but I leave this to the marketer, I am only the theoretician ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Dec-24 04:08 PM] roche3950#0000 and iirc โ€œclearly erroneousโ€ is the better regulatory term here :3 [05-Dec-24 04:13 PM] sidepipe#0000 i think it'd be interesting to write a limited amount of options as a trial to a small group. basically sell up to a set amount of a few different strikes over a 1-2 week period and see how it goes [05-Dec-24 04:21 PM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™d be willing to assist in the experiment in some capacity [05-Dec-24 04:21 PM] roche3950#0000 I think another concern though is that every market participant is pretty influential [05-Dec-24 04:25 PM] roche3950#0000 Pretty easy for people to write a bunch of calls/call spreads and then just keep the price down [05-Dec-24 11:36 PM] exeler#0000 I made a small update to the bot today. You can now sleep safe at night knowing that other people can't close your projects prematurely ๐Ÿ˜… Sorry again to everyone who had that happen to them. It was a truly dumb oversight on my part that that was even allowed to begin with {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (8) [06-Dec-24 09:22 AM] tyrandia#0000 Good morning everyone. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ–– (5) [06-Dec-24 12:46 PM] timomurbekov#0000 So the planet has Hekaton name now {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) [06-Dec-24 12:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Woo, thanks! ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} โค๏ธ [06-Dec-24 12:57 PM] allocater#0000 Amazing! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [06-Dec-24 01:12 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I'm a fan {Reactions} โค๏ธ [07-Dec-24 01:32 AM] allocater#0000 what do you think about adding icons to the planet-chats? see demeter and etherwind [07-Dec-24 07:08 AM] sidepipe#0000 Can Malahat get ๐Ÿ’ฐ as an icon? ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-24 07:30 AM] melon164#0000 Or ๐Ÿ’ธ [07-Dec-24 09:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds good to me ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-24 09:26 AM] sidepipe#0000 @hernanduer - how is your SI stock looking? trying to decide if I just fill out the rest of Hyalos with SMEs [07-Dec-24 09:26 AM] hernanduer#0000 haha.... well if fio is to be trusted, I have to buy about 50 SI/d {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ณ [07-Dec-24 09:27 AM] sidepipe#0000 well, at least I know I can sell it somewwhere ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-24 09:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah it's definitely one of the things I buy most [07-Dec-24 09:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 SI, PG, AL [07-Dec-24 09:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 I always fill all by bases, someone will always buy the excess, I find [07-Dec-24 09:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 except HEX ๐Ÿ˜† [07-Dec-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 cool - I've been getting annoyed with resupplying some of my more complicated bases (like BWS, most of the Nike stuff), so I've been thinking of refocusing on some more simple stuff like metallurgy and more food to reduce clicking ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 well, I was gonna fill it with _something_, just maybe not SI smelting [07-Dec-24 09:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 but now probably definitely SI smelting [07-Dec-24 09:32 AM] sidepipe#0000 same for MHP - gonna build up to 1k in stock and stop producing that for now. I can always spin the base back up if malahat needs more [07-Dec-24 09:40 AM] hernanduer#0000 in case you're curious where it stacks up according to PP {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314979791170043934/image.png?ex=6814e75d&is=681395dd&hm=d38f695bb1a5a73a18e30150ee0412051a88c7357ce1602ac140a92a53acda75& [07-Dec-24 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 I will delegate icon choices for the planet channels. Just put a message in each channel with some of the icons you like. Include some backup icons, because for me, some of them turn into alternate unicode characters without colors like this {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Dec-24 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1314992495029125233/image.png?ex=6814f332&is=6813a1b2&hm=7eea97a24e1afd050d763b9e2e71c2e6d17ff1c435c4b8c87e87d300502af6c4& [07-Dec-24 01:56 PM] zipatsu#0000 The Path of Exile 2 early access launch made me forget to extend it, now I'll never get that water ๐Ÿ˜ฑ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315044378930053132/image.png?ex=68152384&is=6813d204&hm=9e3c614fd0a4ea6453406f54fe68ade28c65b7f2f945c537bd675e1aabc25726& {Reactions} ๐Ÿซ  [07-Dec-24 10:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh thanks for the MED @tuffyless ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Dec-24 10:45 PM] tuffyless#0000 no problem ๐Ÿ™‚ I was perusing the boards [08-Dec-24 02:36 PM] roche3950#0000 wondering -- is there a list of all materials that MMs eat? [08-Dec-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Here's a list of a lot of the mats you can sell to MMs, and t heir profit per base [08-Dec-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315430319683538984/image.png?ex=681490b3&is=68133f33&hm=fc07bb2654963a88a0edea63c4abab8ce7102eeab7959795ef20b8e39ca9a8cb& [08-Dec-24 03:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 "New MM values" is after the change a few months ago, so use that column [08-Dec-24 03:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's not a complete list cause you can technically sell RAT and DW and bfabs to MMs [08-Dec-24 03:34 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you want a complete list you can pull https://rest.fnar.net/csv/prices and look for the MMBuy and MMSell values [08-Dec-24 04:55 PM] roche3950#0000 This is great, thanks [08-Dec-24 04:57 PM] roche3950#0000 It really is just IDC or bust isnโ€™t it, lol [08-Dec-24 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 heh yeah kinda [08-Dec-24 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you have sellers, you can occasionally do better with stuff like ship components [08-Dec-24 05:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 And DW is well over $100 so you can notch that up to be at least the $/area of IDC [08-Dec-24 08:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 We got a lotta people making W [08-Dec-24 08:49 PM] hernanduer#0000 Curious where all that tungsten is going [08-Dec-24 08:55 PM] roche3950#0000 itโ€™s really unfortunate, tbh [08-Dec-24 08:56 PM] roche3950#0000 but I have considered an IDC base, or at least starting to spool one up, and working to build my own inputs for it as a challenge [08-Dec-24 09:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh I am low on tungsten. [08-Dec-24 09:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 FFC and engine bits [08-Dec-24 11:35 PM] evov#0000 I feel like Antares is the warm center of the universe when it comes to Tungsten production. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315552418368589915/image.png?ex=6815026a&is=6813b0ea&hm=c85132f37808a1acd2b1d1df58e22d24b726d95290cb624d7af070a3ec2d9623& [08-Dec-24 11:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™m 10th ๐Ÿ˜† [08-Dec-24 11:41 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 How does MOR still have cheaper W? [08-Dec-24 11:42 PM] .urpalhal#0000 BC no one bought it? [08-Dec-24 11:43 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Huh, there's not WAL market there, which is quite strange [08-Dec-24 11:43 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Do they make PT with it? [08-Dec-24 11:44 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Their PT is marginally cheaper too [08-Dec-24 11:44 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Huh probs not then [09-Dec-24 02:22 AM] melon164#0000 I need to stockpile 550 W for my initial gateway commitments, so I'm not selling to anyone right now {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315594306710540328/image.png?ex=6815296d&is=6813d7ed&hm=b466eee40df69307e1be1cb4273e17e81aeec3742beaf06b2919ca2b669d57e0& [09-Dec-24 08:37 AM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™m thinking about developing a planet from scratch to have something to do Suggestions, anyone? [09-Dec-24 08:53 AM] roche3950#0000 /whatโ€™s a resource that weโ€™re generally running short on? [09-Dec-24 09:03 AM] marat_sh#0000 BTS? ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Dec-24 09:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think a lot of the AML resources are kinda short [09-Dec-24 09:12 AM] roche3950#0000 noted [09-Dec-24 09:12 AM] roche3950#0000 :hist101: charging at the target [09-Dec-24 10:13 AM] roche3950#0000 Do people tend to have the processing capacity but no raw mats, or have the raw mats but no processing capacity? Would guess the former [09-Dec-24 10:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think it's a mix, and it varies based on the commodity. It does sort of tend towards a balance. But there are some interesting points [09-Dec-24 10:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 Extraction heavy builds use a lot of shipping. In early universe I think EXTs were easy to run and had a lowpayout per base. I think that's rising lately. Because people are looking more towards profit per permit rather than ROI [09-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 And AMLs can process a bunch of different types of ore, so they are somewhat substitutable when it comes to the goal of keeping t he AMLs busy [09-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 But, when stockpiles of W run low, there is no other choice but to find more BTS. [09-Dec-24 10:28 AM] roche3950#0000 Makes sense โ€” the economy just developed over time [09-Dec-24 10:29 AM] roche3950#0000 And people arenโ€™t rushing to do the โ€œdirty workโ€ [09-Dec-24 10:29 AM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™m planning to allocate two or even three permits, and itโ€™d be great to help with the mining if I at all could [09-Dec-24 10:29 AM] roche3950#0000 Not to mention, it provides plenty of shipping work for those who want it ๐Ÿ™‚ [09-Dec-24 10:30 AM] marat_sh#0000 "dirty work" some times has BIG ๐Ÿ’ต ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315717176119918663/image.png?ex=6814f31b&is=6813a19b&hm=a775c134cb8e46151a7b8e4e116e1e0ebb705fda2ed2acaf0d4ef8745f9d8d23& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅต [09-Dec-24 10:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 it's nice when my most expensive input is RAT ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Dec-24 10:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1315717660130021416/image.png?ex=6814f38f&is=6813a20f&hm=9a3c7438a5487dff4f98100b32a9f31603e0022aa88ae6235b19174901593cdb& [09-Dec-24 10:58 AM] roche3950#0000 It also does historically, yes ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Dec-24 11:49 AM] mrsmith33#0000 https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/12/09/down-the-rabbit-hole-463 A hint of corp warehouses {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2024/12/09/down-the-rabbit-hole-463 Down the Rabbit Hole - Development Log #463 | Prosperous Universe Michi deep dives into a technical topic: how the storage system works and how companies actually exchange materials. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C8dir-_KPSN3OjIa2LdZZ91RyX6HL8-ho601dQAS1pU/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/asteroid-day-2018.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [09-Dec-24 12:20 PM] roche3950#0000 BRM -> is there generally demand? [09-Dec-24 12:20 PM] roche3950#0000 Would think so for ORCs right [09-Dec-24 12:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 governor upkeep can often benefit from SOI and REA [09-Dec-24 12:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 and the REA is used in a bunch of things [09-Dec-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 There was a pretty bad shortage recently, I guess it's a bit better now [09-Dec-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I just happen to make all the REA stuff [09-Dec-24 12:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 yeah Tanda got a good planet [09-Dec-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 but if you want to do ADRs eventually, you'll need some [09-Dec-24 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you expand your definition of medical supplies, you may include wine ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Dec-24 12:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 https://prunplanner.org/shared/bb9ba365-1c31-4ddf-9c5e-35de4b7dc291 {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/shared/bb9ba365-1c31-4ddf-9c5e-35de4b7dc291 PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [09-Dec-24 12:42 PM] marat_sh#0000 my set up for that planet [09-Dec-24 01:24 PM] roche3950#0000 EL-419j [09-Dec-24 01:24 PM] roche3950#0000 Other than this being the middle of scenic nowhere, what am I missing? [09-Dec-24 02:31 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 The distinction between elements and metals in this game is so frustrating sometimes [09-Dec-24 02:45 PM] roche3950#0000 Unusual request I am going to be liquidating a base on Verdant and Iโ€™d be happy to sell the mats at a rebate to anyone interested in handling them crossposted in ADI [09-Dec-24 02:46 PM] roche3950#0000 Itโ€™s comparatively small money but would be a MASSIVE help [09-Dec-24 05:44 PM] akyantor#0000 FYI - Will have another shipment of BTS soon, 1-2 days. There's been a bit of an explosion of demand in the corp, so it's being split amongst a lot of folks when I auction it. ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [09-Dec-24 10:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 Yes it's making me ๐Ÿ˜ข [10-Dec-24 09:43 AM] roche3950#0000 qq about gateways โ€” I assume the material requirement is known already given the contributions? [10-Dec-24 09:43 AM] roche3950#0000 people are not just making a best estimate? [10-Dec-24 10:11 AM] melon164#0000 We're assuming that the recipes that are currently up on the test server are accurate [10-Dec-24 12:45 PM] martin1194#0000 Who was tell me need VEG in Ooga game channel [10-Dec-24 12:45 PM] martin1194#0000 I forgot : P [10-Dec-24 04:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 it was me - you can just close the auction now ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Dec-24 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got the sense from the dev's wording that they consider the materials on the test server to be final [10-Dec-24 06:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 can't be totally sure though [10-Dec-24 07:38 PM] martin1194#0000 Coool. [10-Dec-24 07:38 PM] martin1194#0000 Closed now. [10-Dec-24 07:39 PM] martin1194#0000 Are u only looking for VEG? No need other agricultural? [11-Dec-24 11:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have like 10k of ALG/MAI/VEG if someone's looking for them [11-Dec-24 01:06 PM] roche3950#0000 How do you take the government seat of a planet without government yet? Canโ€™t quickly find any documentation. [11-Dec-24 01:15 PM] turlorn_angren#0000 the planet needs to have a planetary administration center built. it is under planetary projects. [11-Dec-24 01:20 PM] roche3950#0000 thanks! [11-Dec-24 02:43 PM] martin1194#0000 @sidepipe , you can take some VEG if not enough :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: [11-Dec-24 02:44 PM] martin1194#0000 My next VEG still in base. [12-Dec-24 09:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 hmmm I feel like I'm getting perpetually behind on my shipping [12-Dec-24 09:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think cause I'm only logging in once most days now instead of morning and night [12-Dec-24 09:54 AM] hernanduer#0000 I need another ship or two ๐Ÿ˜„ [12-Dec-24 12:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeaaah, I added more APFs- I have them on 3 planets now.. and they are constantly a pain the ass to keep filled. I think my chains are too complicated because I'll run out of SAR or other weird electronics bits and have to run to ship them around on a daily basis [12-Dec-24 05:55 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Finally got my first 5th expert; they take forever {Reactions} goodluck ๐ŸŒญ [13-Dec-24 03:45 PM] martin1194#0000 A question. How you guys manage when more than 20 base. Is that will ignore Local market? [13-Dec-24 04:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 I never use LM [13-Dec-24 04:14 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 6 cargo ships for 32 bases [13-Dec-24 04:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Try to do 30d buffers on everything, that helps [13-Dec-24 04:28 PM] roche3950#0000 I canโ€™t move that much water :( [13-Dec-24 05:30 PM] zipatsu#0000 Only have 11 bases myself and it's a bit easier when 90% of it is just resource extraction but I stock all of them up with 60 days worth of supplies so that I only really need to worry about collecting the finished product & repairs, am also a big fan of adding 2 STO and all the warehouse space I can buy to each base to reduce the need for a strict shipping schedule โœŒ๏ธ [13-Dec-24 05:31 PM] marat_sh#0000 Do you guys do a HUB planet that has close bases instead of supplying everything from cx? [13-Dec-24 05:34 PM] zipatsu#0000 I supply it from the CX, a hub planet would be great but my quest for all the H2O leaves me with not enough permit freedom to use on things like that ๐Ÿ˜… [13-Dec-24 05:37 PM] akyantor#0000 I just hub out of the CX. And try to maintain 30 days supplies, though not always successfully. 19 bases, 5 ships. [13-Dec-24 08:29 PM] tuffyless#0000 I try keeping a 45 day supply of Cons on each planet. 31 bases / 8 ships. Also try to keep the planet stocked w/ fabs for the next round of repairs before they're due. [13-Dec-24 08:29 PM] tuffyless#0000 I use the LM when trying to buy stuff, sure. For LST on Nike and used to do for ALO for Nascent. HAL LM on Halcyon sometimes. [13-Dec-24 10:59 PM] marat_sh#0000 I use Halcyon as a hub for Electronica and YK-266 c resupply but it's a bit meh since I need to transfer inv [13-Dec-24 11:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 made a fun little naming article. Had to look up some old usernames and such. [13-Dec-24 11:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/naming-in-antares/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/naming-in-antares/ Naming in Antares | OOG Capital Management The Antares region has the best named planets in the universe. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/DWyjjj0qnE3WQbln30VK4war2aFzBz1ZjQFktPy5W6w/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/naming-in-antares-header.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ [13-Dec-24 11:24 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Speaking of this topic, does anyone know what the heck is up with "lead asbestos lead"? [13-Dec-24 11:24 PM] shinonomesciences#0000 Is there some lore behind it? [13-Dec-24 11:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think itโ€™s named after a band. Or a song by a band? [13-Dec-24 11:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s a song ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-Dec-24 11:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsF5nmwAp3s {Embed} [PIAS] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsF5nmwAp3s Meat Beat Manifesto - Asbestos Lead Asbestos Official music video for "Asbestos Lead Asbestos" by Meat Beat Manifesto, taken from their 1996 album 'Subliminal Sandwich', released on Play It Again Sam. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/sb1Yhjj3axT2Ybk37I7etSsFZD1p_nBiHKDw1EPaiCA/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/jsF5nmwAp3s/sddefault.jpg [13-Dec-24 11:51 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I've been wondering about this.. [14-Dec-24 12:36 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 Ohhh [14-Dec-24 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey @everyone ! A few things: ## Retiring the old price list: I'm planning to retire the old OOG price list (and the planet list). Both of these tools were super valuable at the start of the universe when each person only had a planet or three. Back then it took a lot of coordination to make sure specific things were being made at all. Unfortunately: * The sheer number of developed planets means that format doesn't make sense * Prices are very out of date * It's a hassle I don't want to subject new people to filling out * It's just hard to keep it accurate and up to date with everyone's production changes. (and when people stop playing) * Our excellent /order and /auction system overrides it. To discuss, see the thread below. ## Welcome new members! We have a handful of new members who joined recently! Our new members have been amazing getting up to speed with the game and building their production up. Please keep an eye out for their production /orders in #orders and if you have extra fabs, fill the orders, oldest first. Or make /auctions if you have fabs you want to get rid of. I think in general there is a shortage of bfabs, lfabs, and rfabs, but just in case! In the past 2 months we added 6 new players: @agm114 , @superbadsounds , @bookliko, @tyrandia, @roche3950, and @cptboby ! Plus @evov ! ## Gateways! The first pair of ADI Gateway Co-op gates has 71% of the shares allocated. Another gateway will be added soon. We still need a bunch of afabs, RSH, and TSH. I'm personally looking for PSH and HSE to build TRS. If you want to contribute cash or materials to the gateways, let me know. You can be paid for your contributions either in gateway shares OR cash. {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (7) [14-Dec-24 01:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Discussion on price list in this thread [15-Dec-24 09:17 AM] roche3950#0000 Some shipping work up from ANT station for those who want it. Rate per ton should be competitive. Thanks. [15-Dec-24 10:45 AM] tyrandia#0000 Anyone have 10 BTA on Norwick by chance? =/ [15-Dec-24 12:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have a ship heading there now if you don't mind waiting 11hr [15-Dec-24 01:27 PM] tyrandia#0000 Sure [16-Dec-24 01:07 AM] cptboby#0000 if im looking for an electronics planet apart from malahat, how do i find one is there a list or should i just go to map and click around ? xD NVM ,FIO has a list with filters. [16-Dec-24 06:36 AM] parisinspringtime#0000 Phobos is the best electronics planet in the game. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [16-Dec-24 09:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 Phobos, Malahat, Jeetiyu, then Nyx d. [16-Dec-24 09:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 After that, look at `CO KBI` and like half of those are IDC farms [16-Dec-24 10:10 AM] marat_sh#0000 @archielvahr I can close that REA auction since it's probably gonna be just you ๐Ÿ˜… What are you using it for in this quantities? [16-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 I make just about everything you can out of REA [16-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 Engine parts (etc/ees), I do make wine and VG. I make the ADRs for crew quarters [16-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 and hand off extra ADRs to Hal or whoever {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Speaking of ๐Ÿ‘€ [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 and I would like to make OLF or PFE for upkeep if I had enough REA [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have 40 DEC and a bunch of ADR, Hal [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Dunno what you need [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 :yippee: [16-Dec-24 10:19 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ll check [16-Dec-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Oh and I have 8 LIS [16-Dec-24 05:24 PM] tyrandia#0000 Anyone got 15 or so EXO on Nike? [16-Dec-24 05:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sent! [16-Dec-24 05:37 PM] tyrandia#0000 Thank you! [16-Dec-24 09:26 PM] roche3950#0000 One of these jobs is still available to Norwick. Thanks. [17-Dec-24 03:10 PM] roche3950#0000 DW.AI1 looks like starting to tick lower a bit [17-Dec-24 03:46 PM] roche3950#0000 https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229 And it's gone https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zNWjFC-TBRsacXT3KRLNS3JlSCKjj-yZcoUbQbQjt4U/https/media.tenor.com/gfSWsxaDN78AAAAe/south-park-its-gone.png [17-Dec-24 06:25 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/empty-shop-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-lost-where-gif-16493544 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/empty-shop-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-lost-where-gif-16493544 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5Ya1sECmt3ApMFXp-C7mPmxCN5MWxkRln4gDoIwCPYg/https/media.tenor.com/i2zUtP8A7xoAAAAe/empty-shop-pulp-fiction.png [18-Dec-24 04:20 AM] turlorn_angren#0000 i have to admit that i now have 100 million in cash. ๐Ÿ˜… i should invest more. [18-Dec-24 06:31 AM] cptboby#0000 i have one free base slot if u want to sponsor one ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿค” [18-Dec-24 11:12 AM] superbadsounds#0000 Has anyone ever held a race in game? I'm thinking of a few ways to make it interesting, but it would essentially be a series of shipping contracts. Podium finishers split a prize pool of IDC or something. [18-Dec-24 11:13 AM] superbadsounds#0000 Could be a cool way to promote some of the more niche parts [18-Dec-24 11:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 I like the idea! [18-Dec-24 11:52 AM] superbadsounds#0000 I can work up something a bit more formal to share on UFO, but my hope for a first race would be a minimum of 10 competitors buying in at 100k each. Winner gets 500k, 2nd gets 150k, and 3rd walks away with 100k, having essentially only spent money on fuel and the degradation of their ship. With enough interest, there's the possibility I could put together a seasonal league with a championship series. [18-Dec-24 11:54 AM] superbadsounds#0000 I think the game allows for a variety of race formats, but the key will be finding out what people actually enjoy and find competetive. [18-Dec-24 11:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 Race to Nyx and back? ๐Ÿ˜„ [18-Dec-24 11:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 I think itโ€™d be cool and Iโ€™d be happy to add some prize money to make things more interesting [18-Dec-24 12:11 PM] superbadsounds#0000 The Nyx Racing League has a nice ring to it. NRL. [18-Dec-24 12:14 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I mean... this could go as far as purpose built STL ships running a route in Nyx.. every race would be different as the orbits shift. The Sequential Sprint: starting on a, continue to b, and so on. [18-Dec-24 12:20 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I can host our inaugural Nyx Dash to get things going. This would be ANT->Nyx c->ANT. Let me do some research on the flight path and logistics of the race and I'll be back. [18-Dec-24 12:21 PM] superbadsounds#0000 If you'd be interested in participating, just react to this message. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ๏ธ (2) [18-Dec-24 02:08 PM] draconisdomini#0000 @archielvahr How much HSE do you need? [18-Dec-24 02:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 400 [18-Dec-24 02:09 PM] draconisdomini#0000 You're in luck. I have 421 at ANT currently [18-Dec-24 02:12 PM] draconisdomini#0000 How do the gateway shares work? [18-Dec-24 02:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 awesome [18-Dec-24 02:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/adi-gateway-cooperative/ [18-Dec-24 02:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Here's a writeup, if there's anything unclear, let me know, and I will try to update the doc [18-Dec-24 02:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 So I can have it all in one place for people [18-Dec-24 02:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah I'll add a link to the sheet there too. [18-Dec-24 02:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oET7LURFw6m-3iKu_5n8iT2SWS4PU-P-hiH6fMazWmU/edit?gid=0#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oET7LURFw6m-3iKu_5n8iT2SWS4PU-P-hiH6fMazWmU/edit?gid=0 ADI Gateway Co-op https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7tvLVCwgEzz3-GTWfTFiu0qVRItLtRTXSa97Lv091kU/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyIzLFKKfMrpbWSHFwwC0H4VQaAgjmDlkZbH_LRIagHnNVHPp8eo1jASpe9I04Z95tPa_73Blq0Sl12jJvA4gVuL3_h-5SXVybnh_toa6La5-8TJ-ajK%3Dw1200-h630-p [18-Dec-24 02:18 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Cool [18-Dec-24 02:19 PM] draconisdomini#0000 So, 400 HSE valued at 4.6M AIC would be just under a 1% share in the gateway? [18-Dec-24 02:28 PM] archielvahr#0000 78.7 shares each, 31480 total. so about 0.8% of the project (or 1.6% of one gateway) [18-Dec-24 02:31 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Works for me [18-Dec-24 02:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 So those HSE will go into TRS that I'm making on Nike. So in this case I will take them now and record your contribution as a share transfer {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319039667521454183/image.png?ex=68152beb&is=6813da6b&hm=c569e43a10209ef078428c08ba75e4bf087f127f4aa7bd02505149c7ba6348a2& [18-Dec-24 02:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh I assumed you wanted shares, not cash, is that correct? [18-Dec-24 02:33 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Yeah [18-Dec-24 02:34 PM] draconisdomini#0000 I will take the shares {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [18-Dec-24 02:34 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Send me a contract on ANT and I'll give you the HSE [18-Dec-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 The magic spreadsheet works! [18-Dec-24 02:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319040451247865866/image.png?ex=68152ca6&is=6813db26&hm=30abbe059932dab147bdd3da57c79dfa1f991ca58bda04a3261828a74de82a08& [18-Dec-24 02:37 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Haha, cool! [18-Dec-24 02:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Since you can get shares from cash donations OR from transfers OR from pledges [18-Dec-24 04:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Roh is quite the shareholder despite his derailing comments [18-Dec-24 04:47 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Are any of the parts made in a PPF? [18-Dec-24 04:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 Nope not really anything in a PPF... I think nothing actually. Maybe something tiny has plastic bits, but I cna't think of it [18-Dec-24 04:52 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah I actually am checking in with Roh, because he listed a lot of LIT and he isn't on the leader board, I don't think he has made ANY of it yet [18-Dec-24 04:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I said PPF I meant UPF I think [18-Dec-24 04:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh, nope, no UPF stuff. It's all in APFs and AAFs instead [18-Dec-24 04:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Even some of the new prefab stuff? [18-Dec-24 04:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319075523900473384/gateway-new-materials.png?ex=6814a490&is=68135310&hm=516a7f953470f2e0f533099380326413d504fc96d61404e6a226387a6cc810b4& [18-Dec-24 04:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah [18-Dec-24 04:55 PM] archielvahr#0000 they were underutilized buildings in general, so I get it [18-Dec-24 04:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [18-Dec-24 04:56 PM] .urpalhal#0000 No worries I figured if thereโ€™s a need for them I could pitch in [18-Dec-24 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah [18-Dec-24 04:56 PM] archielvahr#0000 Did you want more components for crew quarters or bridges? [18-Dec-24 04:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah but Iโ€™m out and about so havenโ€™t had the time between finals ending and going home to get what I need [18-Dec-24 04:57 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ll ping you in a few hours [18-Dec-24 05:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿป enjoy! [18-Dec-24 08:01 PM] marat_sh#0000 I remember that we were discussing stats from bot's auctions and orders. I am kinda curios how much was posted in auctions and stuff ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Dec-24 09:49 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone want a SAR auction? I've managed to accumulate 400 extra [19-Dec-24 09:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 also like 6k extra SEN [19-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 I would buy both of those [19-Dec-24 10:18 AM] archielvahr#0000 My SAR shortages do actually block production sometimes [19-Dec-24 10:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also Roh says he's acquiring 15 LIT per week and will fill his pledge by late Feb [19-Dec-24 01:44 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone has any space WAI? [19-Dec-24 01:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have 6 extra on Phobos, but I can ramp that up. I thought I had more but I seem to have lost them [19-Dec-24 01:47 PM] mrsmith33#0000 price? [19-Dec-24 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think I have like 100 [19-Dec-24 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 89 [19-Dec-24 01:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I need 60 [19-Dec-24 01:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 WAI escaping is a bad sign ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [19-Dec-24 01:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 oh also 90 on CX... so like 170 ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-24 01:53 PM] hernanduer#0000 I can sell them for idk... 85k? {Reactions} ๐Ÿค [19-Dec-24 01:57 PM] hernanduer#0000 they merged with their SNM counterparts and abducted a ship! [19-Dec-24 01:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 maybe by next year the AI will take over arclight or something {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (3) [19-Dec-24 03:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 I found them! [19-Dec-24 03:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-12-19_15-50-41.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-12-19_15-50-41.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ItioiJReejrKImHxdnrfhQ_ff_o1AkB2jr5ECGZXx80/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2024-12-19_15-50-41.png [19-Dec-24 03:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 squirreled away into a production queue [19-Dec-24 03:55 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Do you also produce all inputs for those? [19-Dec-24 04:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep [19-Dec-24 06:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 Every now and then I look at the LM to remind myself why I don't look at LMs often {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319460081112191037/image.png?ex=6814b935&is=681367b5&hm=062a461ff8586ffeca8a5eab7073b0ee612e58a696285edeb95b6e51a08a3a0c& [19-Dec-24 06:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm going to assume he has a buyer lined up and isn't just fishing for a really sweet deal though ๐Ÿ˜„ [19-Dec-24 06:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜… [19-Dec-24 06:41 PM] roche3950#0000 I just look at them to work out current shipping rates :p [19-Dec-24 10:04 PM] evov#0000 I don't even know where they escape to. I feel like I make a decent amount of WAI, but I never seem to have much stocked up. It just gets chewed up hard. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319515871923929099/image.png?ex=6814ed2b&is=68139bab&hm=2db46a2985e2b4fa07e8ba286358a365a8fc48ca845cf28625866147e14fea5b& [19-Dec-24 11:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Each LIS takes 3, so they go fast there [20-Dec-24 02:31 AM] exeler#0000 I need to add a webpage for the bot for people to explore the data for this. I think it'd be awesome to see some charts and stuff. {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ [20-Dec-24 02:33 AM] exeler#0000 Speaking of, I just put down some large auctions. Turns out I've forgotten to sell things for a while. Sorry for anyone who counted on me for OFF or HE ๐Ÿ˜… [20-Dec-24 08:28 AM] hernanduer#0000 Do you want allll of those? ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Dec-24 08:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ah I did the math and maybe 7.5 mil is too much to spend lol. So Iโ€™ll do half the SAR. I updated my bid [20-Dec-24 08:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 Iโ€™ll take all the sen though [20-Dec-24 08:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 yeah it's about as I figured, no one really wanted it just you, so wanted to make sure that was the case [20-Dec-24 08:34 AM] hernanduer#0000 oops swapped costs on the contracts {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Dec-24 09:51 AM] allocater#0000 I think I have all your WAI from when you sold them ๐Ÿ˜„ 274 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Dec-24 04:45 PM] roche3950#0000 How do people feel about some narrative posts about the different planets? Thinking I might relax this weekend with some creativity for funsies [20-Dec-24 04:56 PM] roche3950#0000 and any they might want to look at first? :ssun: [20-Dec-24 06:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you write it Iโ€™ll put it on the website! [20-Dec-24 06:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Some other people have written lore here: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/lore/index.html {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/lore/index.html Lore :: Prosperous Universe Handbook Prosperous Universe Wiki [20-Dec-24 06:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 It varies in level of completeness and seriousness [20-Dec-24 06:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 As for which planet or topic, I have nothing specific! [20-Dec-24 06:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Like Elonโ€™s Musk [20-Dec-24 06:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 And the book of jonjon [20-Dec-24 06:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Heh yeah [20-Dec-24 06:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Silly people [20-Dec-24 06:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 The game itself does have actual lore. And itโ€™s kind of interesting. Most of the time I forget about it. [20-Dec-24 06:52 PM] roche3950#0000 My thoughts were to write: - โ€˜flavorโ€™ for worlds - days in the life of a [citizen] on [planet] - a dinky thought about a very well-paid SCI wishing s/he could just get off Malahat to go farm on Demeter [20-Dec-24 06:55 PM] roche3950#0000 *This part of the handbook is currently being worked on!* [20-Dec-24 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 There are more in the sidebar [20-Dec-24 07:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Day in the life of a real halcyon miner. Wake up and eat my ration cube. Quick drink of caffeinated infusion. 14 hours in the salt mine. My friend breaks his arm at work, but the infirmary only has office supplies so they write him a doctor's note [20-Dec-24 07:10 PM] roche3950#0000 ahahahah [20-Dec-24 07:11 PM] roche3950#0000 I always figured the rations would either be combat-ration style preportioned packages, or slightly less depressing nutraloaves. [20-Dec-24 07:17 PM] roche3950#0000 leaning towards the first the more I think about it, the food mixes may imply that BEA-NUT-GRN -> pre-boiled, packaged beans, a piece of bread, and a package of nuts edit: maybe a flour tortilla is involved?? ~~ALG-MUS-MAI -> Seaweed-mushroom โ€œpattyโ€ (mystery fish??) and cornbread~~ scratch that one thatโ€™s not a valid combination [20-Dec-24 07:20 PM] superbadsounds#0000 You know what is common with all of these crops..? Rodent populations. RATs contain rats, at least to some extent. ๐Ÿ€ [20-Dec-24 07:22 PM] roche3950#0000 MAI-VEG-BEA and GRN-VEG-BEA are almost certainly Mexican-inspired menus, burritos perhaps [20-Dec-24 07:22 PM] roche3950#0000 microwave burritos [20-Dec-24 07:23 PM] roche3950#0000 then again Iโ€™ve never put an avocado in the microwave [20-Dec-24 07:24 PM] roche3950#0000 can anyone here speak from experience? [20-Dec-24 07:24 PM] roche3950#0000 okay last one MUS-VEG-GRN -> mushroom burger menu [20-Dec-24 10:59 PM] exeler#0000 It's a lot of clicks, but there's something satisfying about having so many contracts open {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1319891928094998538/image.png?ex=6814f9e6&is=6813a866&hm=099d9e7e86d5c4bccfe3510ce9c3bd10fb5f7e828c4946ec4f819dc86a1c5ea2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Dec-24 11:00 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Is this you telling me to accept the cont ๐Ÿคฃ [20-Dec-24 11:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 I saw that and said, "oh hey I'm on that list!" [21-Dec-24 07:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 I specifically checked if I was on the list because I wanted to be [21-Dec-24 07:25 AM] hernanduer#0000 Thankfully am ๐Ÿฅณ [21-Dec-24 08:59 AM] zipatsu#0000 My one QoL wish for contracts is that they add an "Action required" status to easily see which of the 50 contracts require me to press the fulfill button โœŒ๏ธ {Reactions} THIS (2) [21-Dec-24 09:53 AM] allocater#0000 Razenpok could probably do that for the mod [21-Dec-24 10:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 you can in rprun - XIT CONTC {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320065639062441994/image.png?ex=6814f2ed&is=6813a16d&hm=d10fe8f09025ddfbf9cb832a68823c9f8a29cc5341a150c6c829924078b2369b& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [21-Dec-24 10:31 AM] zipatsu#0000 Playing on Steam ๐Ÿ˜ญ [21-Dec-24 10:32 AM] sidepipe#0000 it's never too late to switch ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Dec-24 10:33 AM] zipatsu#0000 But then I'd miss out on fancy stuff like this ๐Ÿ˜… {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320066515986550794/image.png?ex=6814f3bf&is=6813a23f&hm=4e1828775c0a3df33ebb879df77e19cfd65c1737307afd7f75978c6fd4507abd& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [21-Dec-24 10:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 i think i would take psychic damange if I tracked how much time I've spent on the game [21-Dec-24 10:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 also, impressive that it's only 16% ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Dec-24 10:36 AM] zipatsu#0000 It's all my time spent in Path of Exile keeping everything down stat wise ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Dec-24 10:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 that checks out, I've seen a lot of friends disappear into that game [21-Dec-24 10:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 I've 25% of my time in one (1) playthrough of terra invicta. love the game, but it can definitely drag on [21-Dec-24 10:51 AM] zipatsu#0000 In one playthrough? That's impressive ๐Ÿ˜„ [21-Dec-24 09:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 you actually finished? I couldn't [21-Dec-24 09:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320236524385599489/image.png?ex=6814e954&is=681397d4&hm=592010b28ff227d9d0c49058ca390e5765888c577c24b77e02d1b805e6927026& [21-Dec-24 09:48 PM] hernanduer#0000 did just finish space factorio last weekend... 130 hours lol [22-Dec-24 12:13 AM] martin1194#0000 switch to google chrome [22-Dec-24 12:13 AM] martin1194#0000 The stream version can not use plugin [22-Dec-24 06:51 AM] roche3950#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320373203365007372/rszR7zu.png?ex=6814bfdf&is=68136e5f&hm=8a74067cdd5173309a074fb5b4208151d2b9c00b77b688868b734a704bbc4c91& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜‚ (3) [22-Dec-24 06:43 PM] melon164#0000 Anyone else feeling like the continued 330/wk dividend is maybe a bug now? Iโ€™m struggling to see how someone could have left a yearโ€™s worth of queued legacy ordersโ€ฆ [22-Dec-24 06:59 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I was curious about the origins of those funds [22-Dec-24 07:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 So if someone has one SL somewhere and queued up 18 batches of IDC, at 20 days a batch... it would take almost a year for that to disappear [22-Dec-24 07:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Since the tax stuff is set when it's queued [22-Dec-24 07:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Weirder is tht balance that neverr seems to go away [22-Dec-24 07:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320566764869914724/image.png?ex=6814cb63&is=681379e3&hm=ed78170922b87488ada77e949eb4392967fadd90f212922a5e11359b6a8fbc58& [22-Dec-24 07:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 We are on ~6 months since the dividends went away [22-Dec-24 07:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1320567083351670814/image.png?ex=6814cbaf&is=68137a2f&hm=a27790b1c33b6fc6f27d93f5fb9757f6b79dbb605841501381092e30e940b917& [22-Dec-24 08:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 I can't see if I can donate there and it looks like infinite money glitch ๐Ÿ˜… [23-Dec-24 09:48 AM] darjaves#0000 Currently 2.5 milj i can give to someone. Max per person is 0.5 milj. Unless you have a big project, i can fund it. [23-Dec-24 09:49 AM] darjaves#0000 Send me maybe a DM with the reason so we can check how much i can fund. ^ [23-Dec-24 01:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am going on vacation (probably for a few weeks). I didn't upgrade to PRO for that period ( I will get it when I will be back ). Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone! ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐ŸŽ‰ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ„ [23-Dec-24 01:46 PM] roche3950#0000 Happy Holidays ๐ŸŽ‰ [23-Dec-24 03:10 PM] zipatsu#0000 Enjoy your vacation! โœŒ๏ธ {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ [24-Dec-24 10:59 AM] hernanduer#0000 You're gonna miss the sale though ๐Ÿซ  [24-Dec-24 11:45 AM] marat_sh#0000 I forgot that I am not gonna have recurring orders so I got 3 months ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Dec-24 11:45 PM] roche3950#0000 Nice Christmas gift. Clear view of Orion from my window (New York, USA). Merry Christmas, all. ๐ŸŽ„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1321353149478604800/image0.jpg?ex=681504c4&is=6813b344&hm=e3f240642b561bde31ed5b3a64af835a63fd58cf6706fa34a81b4732288eab84& {Reactions} โค๏ธ [25-Dec-24 02:25 AM] shinonomesciences#0000 Merry Christmas! [25-Dec-24 05:17 AM] akyantor#0000 Merry Christmas. Good trading to all. ๐ŸŽ„ [25-Dec-24 07:36 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tree-gif-19431245 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tree-gif-19431245 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UZToQyZwpvATklovSWTpGHMQpESbpUo9Wb7X3nIfufw/https/media.tenor.com/Rw-txzgFhfUAAAAe/christmas-tree.png [25-Dec-24 10:32 AM] archielvahr#0000 Merry Christmas! ๐ŸŽ… โ˜ƒ๏ธ [25-Dec-24 10:43 AM] tuffyless#0000 Merry Christmas โ„๏ธ [28-Dec-24 08:45 AM] roche3950#0000 Which worlds are people generally finding in short supply these days? I've heard/intuited chemical and electronics worlds, but I'm curious what others think [28-Dec-24 09:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think even at 30 bases, I don't find it too hard to find a planet with the COGC I want for my next base [28-Dec-24 09:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 Even if you are picky about only building in ANT [28-Dec-24 09:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Given that, I guess Chemistry is probably the answer [28-Dec-24 09:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 There actually are a ton of electronics planets if you know where to look and based on your use cases [28-Dec-24 09:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Like if you need more than 3 electronics planets, you're doing large scale IDC farming, and those planets exist [28-Dec-24 09:12 AM] katinga#0000 Rise seems to establish another electronics planet every 10 minutes {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [28-Dec-24 09:12 AM] roche3950#0000 Hm, well noted [28-Dec-24 09:20 AM] katinga#0000 Agriculture worlds also seem few and far between. I tried the HYF route for a while but I didn't find it cost effective with the base upkeep and nearly constantly buying the water and nutrient solution that goes into them. HYF farms drink like elephants, where as regular Agri planets are sippers. By and large, I usually find the type of planet I'm looking for at the time, are always in short supply. lol. [28-Dec-24 09:22 AM] roche3950#0000 Hm, yeah. The big limiting factor for fertile worlds is plainly their rarity. I count 25 in the whole game. [28-Dec-24 09:22 AM] katinga#0000 Goldilocks planets. Yes [28-Dec-24 09:23 AM] roche3950#0000 A handful of those are dedicated to other things bcause of other resources (Katoa, Deimos, Phobos, Montem), their distance (Saladin, Talosia), or their poor fertility (Electronica, Etherwind) ... [28-Dec-24 09:24 AM] roche3950#0000 I've been staring down an attempt to develop one of the last fertile planets too [28-Dec-24 09:25 AM] roche3950#0000 but that's just more of my compulsive roleplaying talking lmao [28-Dec-24 09:25 AM] katinga#0000 Did you have one in mind? [28-Dec-24 09:26 AM] roche3950#0000 The last two that have gone unnamed and are thus practically untouched are HM-910c and QF-930b. [28-Dec-24 09:27 AM] roche3950#0000 They have some basic infrastructure, HM- has a COG facility. Neither planet's water resources are particularly rich, QF- probably requires import of water even despite the ability to drill (drink? lol, brain) locally. [28-Dec-24 09:27 AM] katinga#0000 pump ๐Ÿ™‚ [28-Dec-24 09:28 AM] katinga#0000 HM-910c has a food industries COGC [28-Dec-24 09:28 AM] roche3950#0000 HM-910 itself isn't *that* bad a system either ... [28-Dec-24 09:29 AM] roche3950#0000 Nothing a little poll wouldn't fix [28-Dec-24 09:29 AM] katinga#0000 except it's in BEN space. lol :p [28-Dec-24 09:30 AM] katinga#0000 I could probably invest in the development of a couple of Agri planets [28-Dec-24 09:30 AM] roche3950#0000 simply an ANT province in rebellion [28-Dec-24 09:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 distance is pretty major factor. How far are they from ANT? why not building HYF closer? [28-Dec-24 09:32 AM] katinga#0000 I don't see a QF hexagon [28-Dec-24 09:32 AM] roche3950#0000 bloody far, no question about it [28-Dec-24 09:32 AM] katinga#0000 cost prohibitive, as I mentioned. but Goldilocks planets are rare, too [28-Dec-24 09:33 AM] roche3950#0000 I should caveat that this is feeding my deep space colonization bug as well [28-Dec-24 09:34 AM] katinga#0000 where the heck is QF, though? [28-Dec-24 09:35 AM] roche3950#0000 very southern tip of the map [28-Dec-24 09:35 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1322588873267875901/image.png?ex=6814e65f&is=681394df&hm=e7acd04e0862474845ba3b6bb2660441b3c89bd6e77b8f83d4f9994b0831b6d0& [28-Dec-24 09:36 AM] roche3950#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1322588900962598962/image.png?ex=6814e666&is=681394e6&hm=3682a0ced1301131483e8ed2411f0732147c2ca529578ce7175435c6c7fa6883& [28-Dec-24 09:36 AM] roche3950#0000 woop [28-Dec-24 09:36 AM] roche3950#0000 @marat_sh fastest map marker haha [28-Dec-24 09:36 AM] katinga#0000 Ah! [28-Dec-24 09:36 AM] marat_sh#0000 I think HYF are better even if they cost a bit more ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Dec-24 09:37 AM] roche3950#0000 https://aeryen23.github.io/yapt/#/planetsearch I use this for reading planet data and find it really great :D [28-Dec-24 09:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 If you want to set up additional planets on Nyx, I have some mats laying around for that purpose! [28-Dec-24 09:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ice Station Alpha with 33 RIGS supports my 20 HYF base and also makes DW, no water problems for me [28-Dec-24 09:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 With this setup [28-Dec-24 09:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1322589384234766407/image.png?ex=6814e6d9&is=68139559&hm=43a636dc79fdac45524f6140218fdc30190f7333fb21e7380e5849c720970d21& [28-Dec-24 09:39 AM] katinga#0000 These days, I'm only growing for burnables, so HYFs definitely aren't worth it for that [28-Dec-24 09:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1322590972873539675/image.png?ex=6814e854&is=681396d4&hm=ce36352c4cb5b30797c57cc6db0adc351a2a51f5d874c7ec45b94df0090a89d8& [28-Dec-24 09:44 AM] marat_sh#0000 where is Hal? what happend? [28-Dec-24 09:46 AM] marat_sh#0000 @.urpalhal did you stop production? [28-Dec-24 09:46 AM] .urpalhal#0000 No [28-Dec-24 09:47 AM] .urpalhal#0000 But I forgot to resupply the base for like a week [28-Dec-24 09:47 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Bc Iโ€™m not home [28-Dec-24 09:47 AM] .urpalhal#0000 And Mobile prun is booty cheeks [28-Dec-24 09:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Oh, make sense ๐Ÿ˜… [28-Dec-24 09:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 true, I am using public laptop ๐Ÿคฃ [28-Dec-24 09:48 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah Iโ€™ll grab my laptop to do stuff sometimes but itโ€™s not fun [30-Dec-24 01:13 AM] martin1194#0000 Which planet is need to vote to Ooga member? [30-Dec-24 11:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 I don't think we have any pending elections that are contested, do we? Except maybe Harmonia, which is still going for another 19 hours {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [30-Dec-24 11:13 AM] sidepipe#0000 Ah, thanks for the reminder - looks like weโ€™re pretty safe on harmonia, but I got Lili a bit higher in the rankings ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿฉต ๐Ÿ‘ (2) ๐ŸŽ‰ ๐Ÿ’œ [31-Dec-24 11:02 PM] roche3950#0000 Happy New Year proper from NYC. โค๏ธ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [01-Jan-25 11:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 @neth_havoc - sorry that FIM contract breached, I didnโ€™t realize it was overdue. Iโ€™ve still got your FIM at ANT [02-Jan-25 12:30 AM] martin1194#0000 Is here anyone know, when a ship jump into other system. The ship will appear from where? Close to the star(sun)? [02-Jan-25 12:31 AM] martin1194#0000 Cuz I would like to design a ship for my own to jump faster, and I need to consider STL engine. [02-Jan-25 08:53 AM] archielvahr#0000 It appears close to the destination planet. That's why it's faster to jump out of system sometimes rather than to fly from planet "a" to "h" with STL flight [02-Jan-25 11:18 AM] roche3950#0000 I actually did not know this and this is huge. Thanks. [02-Jan-25 11:24 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah you can jump out of system and jump back in and sometimes it's faster. usually planet a through d or a through e are not too bad {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Jan-25 11:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 But the last gas giant or two can be quite far out, it depends totally on the system though. [02-Jan-25 11:25 AM] archielvahr#0000 But jumping out and back in might require stopping a flight at a certain time or paying more attention which is a pretty big ask ๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [02-Jan-25 11:44 AM] roche3950#0000 Well I was looking at systems where very economical burns are measured in weeks [02-Jan-25 11:44 AM] roche3950#0000 So itโ€™d be neat [02-Jan-25 12:10 PM] roche3950#0000 I had my phone volume up [02-Jan-25 12:10 PM] roche3950#0000 middle of a quiet office, sleepy afternoon, just get some orders doneโ€ฆ [02-Jan-25 12:10 PM] roche3950#0000 ***BOO DING*** {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (3) [02-Jan-25 04:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sometimes I sell a ship and walk away with my speakers turned up. Then half an hour later... there's 30 **_BOO DING_**s in a row ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Jan-25 04:34 PM] melon164#0000 Does anyone have 40 DEC I can borrow for a week or so? [02-Jan-25 05:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I happen to have exactly 40 on ANT {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [02-Jan-25 09:57 PM] roche3950#0000 If I asked someone here to be a perennial supplier of SARs, is this a reasonable request to begin with, and if so at what price does it become a reasonable request? [02-Jan-25 10:49 PM] evov#0000 Depends, what do you need them for? [02-Jan-25 10:57 PM] evov#0000 The current buy orders up at 31k /unit seem pretty reasonable as far as pricing goes, what sort of volume are you looking at? [03-Jan-25 05:36 AM] allocater#0000 SAR price is very high atm and I am ramping up production to cash in on it. But I could actually go as low as 27k [03-Jan-25 06:04 AM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™d like to start producing BSC and thus ADRs get this medical company producing, yโ€™know, medical things ๐Ÿ˜„ [03-Jan-25 06:04 AM] roche3950#0000 while plastics and chemicals are cool theyโ€™ll only get you so far [03-Jan-25 06:09 AM] roche3950#0000 and yes one may say MED are the lower hanging fruit but Iโ€™m not sure about the burn rate relative to the production rate, seems extremely easy to flood the market [03-Jan-25 06:10 AM] roche3950#0000 2,924 units traded on AI1 in the last 7 days, and iirc a CHP base focused on MEDs will make 425 a day [03-Jan-25 06:13 AM] roche3950#0000 plus with ADRs going into ship production or into the MM woodchipper, they can either support that ship supply or be a constant source of income which will allow me to further expand [03-Jan-25 07:46 AM] martin1194#0000 Thank you for the knowledge, so make a ship and it good at STL is a good idea. :Pepepains: [03-Jan-25 11:10 AM] neth_havoc#0000 No problem, that would be nice! [04-Jan-25 01:15 AM] archielvahr#0000 I slightly reordered a few channels so they could be closer to other relevant channels (ship-building) and (orders-ships).... because I forgot the latter existed ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [04-Jan-25 07:25 PM] martin1194#0000 I am not understand about ship. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325273921888718958/image.png?ex=6814c7c5&is=68137645&hm=e6f556ac9cfdcc13b3edc54b6668db642404417d9f5aa494b539f2cf07bd5a7b& [04-Jan-25 07:25 PM] martin1194#0000 Why FTL speed (max) is 156.7parsec/h HRT -> BEN need 1days 15hours [04-Jan-25 07:26 PM] martin1194#0000 I am trying to design a fastest FTL ship for my needs. [04-Jan-25 08:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Put a bigger FTL fuel tank on it. Right now 100% is only 300 fuel. If you have bigger tanks, you can burn more fuel [04-Jan-25 08:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 Lightweight Hull plates will be faster than basic hull plates because they are lighter (but only for the STL portions of the flight) [04-Jan-25 08:21 PM] martin1194#0000 In right-side window, you can see the highest speed should be 156parsec per hour. [04-Jan-25 08:22 PM] martin1194#0000 But in the left-side window, it takes 4hrs to fly 12parsec :smiledog: [04-Jan-25 08:22 PM] martin1194#0000 That made me can't understand [04-Jan-25 08:23 PM] martin1194#0000 why not 10mins to jump 4 parsec? [04-Jan-25 08:23 PM] martin1194#0000 This one {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325288570700828753/image.png?ex=6814d569&is=681383e9&hm=4caea553edfce7f9077042e609f7b5120ff961cbbc313270a2ec60bb43cfed9e& [04-Jan-25 08:23 PM] martin1194#0000 And this {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325288654817722480/image.png?ex=6814d57d&is=681383fd&hm=5388ef6383f50563bc290b2ad656535330d2c5918169f02f40c34583ce75b431& [04-Jan-25 08:27 PM] martin1194#0000 !!! opps [04-Jan-25 08:27 PM] martin1194#0000 15% usage. [04-Jan-25 08:27 PM] martin1194#0000 That's why D: [04-Jan-25 08:28 PM] martin1194#0000 Thank you, Archiel :3 [04-Jan-25 08:28 PM] martin1194#0000 ignoring STL. : P [04-Jan-25 08:30 PM] martin1194#0000 It's like not a good idea for making fastest FTL ship. D: [04-Jan-25 08:30 PM] martin1194#0000 It's need ton of fuel [04-Jan-25 08:30 PM] martin1194#0000 Fly once need 40000AIC [04-Jan-25 09:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hahaha yeah somewhere in between those two probably ๐Ÿ˜ [04-Jan-25 09:44 PM] martin1194#0000 I thinking is it good for make a fastest ship or not. If maybe not good for me, but who will make these kind of ships? [04-Jan-25 09:52 PM] martin1194#0000 Also, quick charge FTL engine look like not efficiency for tranport at FTL. It can charge faster but slower speed. :OMEGALUL: [04-Jan-25 10:37 PM] martin1194#0000 @sidepipe Do need VEG again? Got 500VEG in ANT [05-Jan-25 01:48 AM] allocater#0000 MEA and FIM shortages galaxy wide! [05-Jan-25 02:06 AM] cptboby#0000 and RTA on ANT? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [05-Jan-25 02:07 AM] martin1194#0000 ;_; Trying to extend more food now. Was focused on CHEM and Construction for Ahabs. {Reactions} โค๏ธ [05-Jan-25 06:49 AM] evov#0000 MEA - I'm seeing about 13k on the CX's - weekly trade volume 9.5k FIM - I'm seeing about 27k on the CX's - weekly trade volume 19k Not sure what the historical numbers look like, but it doesn't feel super urgent (unless someone wants to drop a heap of cash on buying out existing stocks ) [05-Jan-25 06:51 AM] allocater#0000 But the price is so high FPs have ROI of 5 days [05-Jan-25 06:54 AM] cptboby#0000 thats very good for beginners [05-Jan-25 06:54 AM] cptboby#0000 cheap base with quick return [05-Jan-25 06:56 AM] evov#0000 Yea, I think that's a good thing. To be clear - something like 95% of all MEA's produced go towards IDC money farms. So while the profitability per permit of IDC's is significantly higher than that of MEA producers, I don't really see a good reason to put a thumb on the scale in either direction. [05-Jan-25 07:06 AM] evov#0000 I'll start feeding FIM onto the ANT cx if it breaks 2800. And MEA at 6000. If it doesn't reach those levels, I feel like just let the food producers enjoy their time in the sun. (My personal stockpile is at about 20k fim and 10k mea at the moment, so it should be enough to buy time for things to stabilize if needed ) [05-Jan-25 02:06 PM] sidepipe#0000 gladly, sending you a contract ๐Ÿ™‚ [05-Jan-25 02:09 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've had my eye on FIM for a while now as it's been getting more profitable, but I'm still limited by the amount of HER I produce [05-Jan-25 02:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 at some point, I probably should just dedicate both harmonia and demeter to 100% HER - still farming GRN etc on harm [05-Jan-25 02:10 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Same. I'm low on HER, but I also use GRN for C. [05-Jan-25 02:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Maybe I should make a second HYF base? [05-Jan-25 02:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 that's what I've been thinking of - change over harmonia to HER, start a new HYF base on Life [05-Jan-25 02:15 PM] sidepipe#0000 so 2 HER farming planets, 2 HYF planets, and then add a third FP base... somewhere? [05-Jan-25 02:15 PM] mrsmith33#0000 HCP/MAI doesn't take much H2O/NS, so I can cover both with a single ISA [05-Jan-25 02:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 oh, good point - I should probably see if my water production can handle that ๐Ÿ˜„ [05-Jan-25 02:25 PM] sidepipe#0000 PG might be another opportunity {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325560767369449534/image.png?ex=68152a2a&is=6813d8aa&hm=4114c2107f7542cf8188f0ba0346d2b77870e792a8b467a5fc3570bcfd649919& [05-Jan-25 02:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 seems like the order book has been getting thinner over the past month [05-Jan-25 02:42 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I haven't sold my PG for many month (maybe even a year) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325565115344490526/image.png?ex=68148577&is=681333f7&hm=198c80f996e2789e7808573feec2f4f640eef2a3a7bebc84f39f2948cbc1641c& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ [05-Jan-25 02:43 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Would be cool to see how my ANT stockpile changed over time [05-Jan-25 03:16 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Will also need to replace GRN with MAI in RAT recipes [05-Jan-25 03:31 PM] allocater#0000 yeah, it's great. High FIM/MEA prices mean the IDC profits go more towards food producers {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [05-Jan-25 08:29 PM] martin1194#0000 I think I haven't recieve your contract. [06-Jan-25 12:39 AM] martin1194#0000 Is there any way to find out other type consumable price? I only can find Pioneer in FIO [06-Jan-25 12:40 AM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325715503620165674/image.png?ex=68151186&is=6813c006&hm=23dfde1fb50c689a6c570ddbcda75394460017474254ff8b4b2d21eea152dcda& [06-Jan-25 12:44 AM] evov#0000 I don't store historical data. But these are the numbers I use {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325716493715116073/image.png?ex=68151272&is=6813c0f2&hm=c4673039b334afa7d85f54ed1da58e9c38571a4aec3d38b8fb7253d7a815f49d& [06-Jan-25 12:44 AM] martin1194#0000 How can u get this data [06-Jan-25 12:44 AM] martin1194#0000 I no need the pass but I want the current for I caculate the cost in my brain. [06-Jan-25 12:45 AM] evov#0000 e.g. for poineers - {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1325716781112754241/image.png?ex=681512b7&is=6813c137&hm=fe0a6c903484b97122186e447ae09a71e45666388b482e7b8df5cc6afca031d5& [06-Jan-25 12:45 AM] evov#0000 Price used is the current AVG price on each of the CX's. [06-Jan-25 12:45 AM] martin1194#0000 u make your own excel? Not the public data? [06-Jan-25 12:46 AM] evov#0000 I pull in prices from fio into a sheet, and then process it from there. [06-Jan-25 12:49 AM] martin1194#0000 So, there are no public tool for it. :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: [06-Jan-25 02:30 AM] martin1194#0000 Are these auto update? [06-Jan-25 02:31 AM] martin1194#0000 Or, u need to manual copy and paste? [06-Jan-25 02:38 AM] evov#0000 Up to date whenever I refresh the fio prices page, yeah. [06-Jan-25 02:41 AM] martin1194#0000 May I have it? I can pay 1000k AIC for it. : P ps. Remove ur API and tell me how to put my own API inside. [06-Jan-25 02:42 AM] martin1194#0000 Was trying find tool, but. sighhhhh [06-Jan-25 02:44 AM] evov#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmTpPsP0WeY&t=95s For me, it all started here. {Embed} Tom Sakks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmTpPsP0WeY&start=95 PrUn - Spreadsheet Walkthrough (I'm learning too) Broadcasted live on Twitch -- Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/ikanagas Sheet at the end: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s7twEtdX6ghvv2PRyEPjZhS2n5OBah_jIBHp6Qm7z2Y/edit https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/REkyF1ycJ-oZIKR8PbQH4_5eiUTjExtIeNp-piiy_ZE/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/LmTpPsP0WeY/maxresdefault.jpg [06-Jan-25 02:46 AM] martin1194#0000 2hrs. ๐Ÿ’€ [06-Jan-25 02:46 AM] martin1194#0000 Much harder than use the Planrunner [06-Jan-25 02:47 AM] martin1194#0000 Plan runner, I just need 3mins to calculate from it's data. But these...... [06-Jan-25 02:56 AM] martin1194#0000 Maybe will research on feature, but really no time on it. School stuff are waiting for me ๐Ÿ’€ [06-Jan-25 04:16 PM] sidepipe#0000 because I completely forgot - sending it now ๐Ÿ˜„ [06-Jan-25 06:39 PM] martin1194#0000 :goodluck: Accepted [07-Jan-25 09:24 AM] hernanduer#0000 I have like 15k ALG and VEG, if anyone wants some ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jan-25 09:27 AM] hernanduer#0000 I just keep posting it on the CX when it fills up my warehouse and it's uhhhhh accumulated [07-Jan-25 09:32 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I would buy 2k VEG [07-Jan-25 09:36 AM] martin1194#0000 wao [07-Jan-25 09:42 AM] hernanduer#0000 I can sell it for like 140/u [07-Jan-25 10:02 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll have to take a look when I get back, but I may be interested in up to 10k of each. It would definitely help me move around my farms without stopping my FP production ๐Ÿ˜„ [07-Jan-25 10:03 AM] sidepipe#0000 (I will definitely buy some, just donโ€™t hold me to the 10k yet ๐Ÿ˜) [07-Jan-25 01:40 PM] mrsmith33#0000 @roche3950 Is there any chance that you have ZIR for sale? [07-Jan-25 07:51 PM] martin1194#0000 The transport service is up on ZV-194 system. (STL ship) Feel free to send me a contract without any fee. https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1037790773481066496/1326364026711834675 [08-Jan-25 06:14 AM] roche3950#0000 All the ZIR I produce is already contracted out, sorry but โ€” how did you know I mine ZIR? :blobconfused: [08-Jan-25 06:20 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326525944856576051/image.png?ex=6814b88e&is=6813670e&hm=b04efd764aeb0c22add3a4e76ded49ad535edf5df9fa6d3d8e3d40943e3dc2d5& [08-Jan-25 06:29 AM] roche3950#0000 w h a t Iโ€™m number two? [08-Jan-25 06:29 AM] roche3950#0000 Thatโ€™s hilarious [08-Jan-25 06:30 AM] roche3950#0000 I took a deal to lease one of my permits out to someone to mine ZIR a while back [08-Jan-25 06:50 AM] melon164#0000 Thatโ€™s an insane amount of ZIR โ€”> ZR โ€”> ??! [08-Jan-25 06:57 AM] roche3950#0000 I have like 2,000 units waiting to be picked up by the counterparty ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ [08-Jan-25 07:08 AM] roche3950#0000 Fuel rods iirc [08-Jan-25 08:14 AM] melon164#0000 That makes no sense to me; AFR only goes into FIR which requires 1:2 EES, and there's nowhere near enough EES in the universe to match that, nor enough demand for the HPR/HYR/PFG that would result. But maybe they just want to pile it up into a 10kt mound and make sandcastles out of it ๐Ÿคท [08-Jan-25 08:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 ZR is used in FTL fuel tanks too {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [08-Jan-25 09:32 AM] hernanduer#0000 1000 fuel tanks [08-Jan-25 09:35 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Why not [08-Jan-25 10:28 AM] roche3950#0000 I dig, the dude pays me, I dig some more. The counterparty also financed the construction and supply of the base so I donโ€™t really carry any risk [08-Jan-25 02:29 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Accumulated a nice buffer of KV on Nike for ADE {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326649117048311858/image.png?ex=68152b45&is=6813d9c5&hm=3867b48c1bd2d0fa4bb6f2f361ed80298e6e0925127fdd72e06d4474d024a6df& [08-Jan-25 03:13 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I can make TK now [08-Jan-25 04:44 PM] sidepipe#0000 just passed 400M equity recently ๐Ÿฅณ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326682920764571749/image.png?ex=6814a200&is=68135080&hm=df5551ccb8bb849bc8af20dd4d959eb8efd81b60454c24fcb155c737327df6b6& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [08-Jan-25 04:46 PM] sidepipe#0000 though a not-insignificant part of that is a huge pile of BWS that I need to start shipping to other CXs ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Jan-25 05:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 getting to 40m mark as well ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Jan-25 05:18 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326691566273691709/image.png?ex=6814aa0e&is=6813588e&hm=28722944ce8081c7db47c0b85de5ce5212c48bf7b9253e8a21f7e3df265d7f54& {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [08-Jan-25 05:38 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I'll play if you disregard the recent slump... ๐Ÿ˜† There seems to be an in-game cost to getting married IRL as well haha I included where it's all at for fun. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326696602097680385/image.png?ex=6814aebe&is=68135d3e&hm=f67b37da1ed358624a839c2d5b9ccfe40892e8c6595c5ce47163ea026042e699& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326696602538086462/image.png?ex=6814aebe&is=68135d3e&hm=20d0f382280099e0ee80817ecc81a6a17c80900ec691f195f7dd313289556f5f& [08-Jan-25 05:40 PM] superbadsounds#0000 That early negative period is what 2 IDC bases from allocater looks like on paper {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [08-Jan-25 06:09 PM] marat_sh#0000 this guy is loanmaxing ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Jan-25 06:12 PM] superbadsounds#0000 To the moon..? ๐Ÿฅณ [08-Jan-25 06:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 of course ๐Ÿ˜… [09-Jan-25 05:41 AM] martin1194#0000 Mine {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326878432327368815/image.png?ex=6814af56&is=68135dd6&hm=4383d1219feb9bc68940b383386778f6c2fe49ebe97a9d8d7425ed3f23eec22c& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [09-Jan-25 05:44 AM] martin1194#0000 Seem like refined calculator not similar to the origin one. [09-Jan-25 05:45 AM] martin1194#0000 That make I jump from 400M to 500M D: [09-Jan-25 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think they started counting HQ and Ship costs or something [09-Jan-25 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 Mine is pretty whacky: [09-Jan-25 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/NVIDIA_Share_2025-01-09_10-34-50.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/NVIDIA_Share_2025-01-09_10-34-50.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SuwFsb15KDhaV0QAkhTlxrEc4-Od54TQ0NHxSvFoSYs/http/kortham.net/temp/NVIDIA_Share_2025-01-09_10-34-50.png [09-Jan-25 10:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 That big bump is mostly from all my HEX [09-Jan-25 10:36 AM] archielvahr#0000 Then there's a dead spot when I exceeded 4,294,967,295 [09-Jan-25 10:37 AM] archielvahr#0000 Then rprun recalculated it to be lower by not counting the silly HEX [09-Jan-25 10:44 AM] roche3950#0000 Figured it might be good to put a base on the planet that I govern. :kekw: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [09-Jan-25 01:31 PM] hernanduer#0000 1bil soon {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1326996709078994994/image.png?ex=68151d7d&is=6813cbfd&hm=1761733166a3c3a73cc120025ad2a92b8019e0377ff1ec86996a437db43b8009& [09-Jan-25 01:34 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿฅฒ [09-Jan-25 01:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 impressively straight line! [09-Jan-25 01:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 how much of that is liquid cash? [09-Jan-25 01:47 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327000732716503180/image.png?ex=6815213d&is=6813cfbd&hm=5618a384868374eab173e0e643f777d0c0d050e1072d362fea80203ea9770b62& [09-Jan-25 01:50 PM] hernanduer#0000 right now around 150mil [09-Jan-25 01:51 PM] mrsmith33#0000 ๐Ÿ‘€ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327001786942357637/image.png?ex=68152238&is=6813d0b8&hm=dfedba67f3c2a2c98fb00f98e286d6bdaace5771eff5a2f87d960844ea9c5d77& {Reactions} ๐Ÿซจ [09-Jan-25 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 that would scare me [09-Jan-25 01:51 PM] hernanduer#0000 I like buying 5mil of PG or 3mil of RATs at once {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [09-Jan-25 01:52 PM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327002053091786912/image.png?ex=68152277&is=6813d0f7&hm=240eb5455db87d7b2b878a10a077e852f6037c491a9c8088ee832204307211dd& [09-Jan-25 01:52 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm pretty much not selling anything [09-Jan-25 02:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 I do often feel like I make a ton of crap but most of it doesn't get sold. I don't really know where it all disappears to. ๐Ÿ˜† [09-Jan-25 02:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 For me it is either a consumable, HQ upgrade stuff or stockpile on ANT warehouse [09-Jan-25 03:03 PM] melon164#0000 https://tenor.com/baGZu.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/raiders-lost-lostark-gif-14902526 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YD5FDR13dQnYHIH8w4Yy6yU-2cHMDkk4usi1l_SvtkA/https/media.tenor.com/OdeLj5CYn4MAAAAe/raiders-lost.png [09-Jan-25 03:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 I think like half my product is funneled into Nike PP4s, and I just eat all those afabs myself [09-Jan-25 03:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 or have 500 thermal shields waiting for gateways... ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Jan-25 03:04 PM] hernanduer#0000 and counting [09-Jan-25 03:05 PM] melon164#0000 I just make stuff and then periodically fill an order here or against bids and it turns out to be six or seven figures ๐Ÿคท [09-Jan-25 03:05 PM] melon164#0000 Any true late-stage capitalist would be appalled by my lack of aggression [09-Jan-25 03:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 haha [09-Jan-25 03:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 To be fair, it seems like thereโ€™s few things late-game that move fast enough to sell consistently [09-Jan-25 03:55 PM] evov#0000 I'm always a bit skeptical of these total wealth graphs that show massive spikes up and down. When I see massive spikes, I'm like... woah! Why don't you do more of that thing you just did there. And people will be "I didn't do anything there, no idea why line went up". My broad view is that data/information/graphs etc are only relevant if they have the potential to influence future choices. [09-Jan-25 03:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 A lot of the spikes are the change in RPRUN where they started counting ships and hq levels [09-Jan-25 04:14 PM] sidepipe#0000 My big spike is my cut from the OOG bank bases - we just ran out of customers ๐Ÿ˜ [09-Jan-25 04:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 And sure, the total equity isnโ€™t really useful as a decision-making tool. The only time itโ€™s helped me make a decision was when it stopped going up for a long time. But itโ€™s a fun measure of progress in the game about accumulating wealth ๐Ÿ˜„ [09-Jan-25 04:57 PM] hernanduer#0000 I'm still not using RPRUN {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [09-Jan-25 10:30 PM] tuffyless#0000 Mine was kinda like this too. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327132349405855744/image.png?ex=6814f311&is=6813a191&hm=a799e058590d26a116601aa400641bb9a8912cdcb83075495554390aa3ec1fc6& [09-Jan-25 10:30 PM] tuffyless#0000 I have no cash anymore; spent everything on HQ's. It's obvious where the HQ + Ships come into play. Everything is slowly being geared to produce more-n-more afabs; the excess of anything is accumulated onto the CX because the winds of change all the time; then all overstock for there is discounted at OOG's Auction & Order House! [09-Jan-25 10:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 okay I got the fancy one (RPRUN) [09-Jan-25 10:45 PM] hernanduer#0000 but it's not keeping my tags on mats in inventories [09-Jan-25 10:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 I was using that to at a glance know what I can take from a base [09-Jan-25 11:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hm the tags work for me. I think I had to re-set them up, but I had issues with prunplanner and had to wipe it too [09-Jan-25 11:52 PM] katinga#0000 Do we have any folks that are impacted by the fires in Los Angeles? Stay safe, please {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-25 12:01 AM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean kinda, but like just the stuff from LA [10-Jan-25 12:01 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Like gasoline [10-Jan-25 12:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 I was in LA last year for SIGGRAPH, and have some friends in the area, so definitely scary [10-Jan-25 12:04 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah the videos Iโ€™ve seen have definitely looked like a hellscape [10-Jan-25 12:04 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Wild stuff [10-Jan-25 12:04 AM] katinga#0000 It's heartbreaking [10-Jan-25 12:05 AM] katinga#0000 BBC is reporting on some of the celebs that have lost their homes. I follow some of the Star Trek stars on social media, as well. [10-Jan-25 12:24 AM] .urpalhal#0000 The sudden widespread discontinuation of fire insurance policies a few weeks ago is really what breaks my heart [10-Jan-25 12:41 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 o7 entreprenuers ๐Ÿ™‚ first day of my trial [10-Jan-25 12:45 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 dear lord, just walking around our official website and I must say this corp REALLY looks like a economic empire [10-Jan-25 12:45 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 just impressive, no other word coming from my mind [10-Jan-25 01:20 AM] martin1194#0000 ๐Ÿ’€ I am thinking a question. Should I abandon all AL/FE production. And convert all to Food+Arg [10-Jan-25 01:22 AM] martin1194#0000 Production speed will faster. But Afab only can import from CX [10-Jan-25 01:54 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I can provide AL ๐Ÿ™‚ [10-Jan-25 01:54 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 but just little amount ofc haha [10-Jan-25 01:58 AM] martin1194#0000 Someone always need AL. As I remember, is @allocater . Forgot who else [10-Jan-25 01:58 AM] martin1194#0000 Afabs means these 4 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327184868156637234/image.png?ex=681523fa&is=6813d27a&hm=0c0283707798032e74d400276b2bff50a877e59c94dcefa88051a9d9e120ed2d& [10-Jan-25 02:02 AM] martin1194#0000 Thank you for provide, but I not need it. : D [10-Jan-25 02:05 AM] martin1194#0000 um, btw. May I know what did u get from ADI plan cuz I am not in ADI plan [10-Jan-25 02:11 AM] evov#0000 I'll buy virtually unlimited amounts of AL. If you're making it on Deimos or Vulcan - feel free to cont it to me on planet for whatever the current ANT Bid price is. [10-Jan-25 02:12 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 rgr that , remembered๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-25 02:13 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 what is ADI [10-Jan-25 02:13 AM] martin1194#0000 Then, forget it [10-Jan-25 02:13 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I get 1mil starter grant from AGP plan [10-Jan-25 02:13 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 not very familiar with these short names sorry [10-Jan-25 02:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 ADI is a server here [10-Jan-25 02:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 Antares Development Initiative [10-Jan-25 02:14 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 oh I understand [10-Jan-25 02:14 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yeah in that case, 1mil [10-Jan-25 02:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 I guess you could join it [10-Jan-25 02:15 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 jumpstart for me [10-Jan-25 02:15 AM] martin1194#0000 I can provide RAT/DW for u. - RAT 100@1 - DW 60@1 cuz u r new starter, but don't sell those on CX. I am also need import from CX. : P [10-Jan-25 02:16 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 wow that will be a huge discount but thankyou currently my profit can cover those necessary expensr [10-Jan-25 02:16 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 thx very much for offer [10-Jan-25 02:22 AM] martin1194#0000 cool. Then, u can do the Bid price from me. I am trying to design some production line related to Food again. ๐Ÿคฃ [10-Jan-25 02:23 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 oh ofc if ur finding stable buyer then I'm in [10-Jan-25 02:23 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 bid price is reasonable [10-Jan-25 02:24 AM] martin1194#0000 My HQ is in HRT. Was suppose to do food and args. [10-Jan-25 02:24 AM] martin1194#0000 But :/ I don't know what happened after that. Ton of CHEM and Construct :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: [10-Jan-25 02:25 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 Several days ago before I COLIQ to ANT space, I'm in HRT too. I suggest u check out FIM [10-Jan-25 02:25 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I believe its profitable and have big market space [10-Jan-25 02:26 AM] martin1194#0000 FIM needs RAT. [10-Jan-25 02:26 AM] max.kalina#0000 I have HQ in HRT too, but most of my bases are in ANT space now. On Prom I have agri base and on Avalon food production [10-Jan-25 02:26 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yeah better start with RAT anyway [10-Jan-25 02:27 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'm interested in metals and chemicals so moved here [10-Jan-25 02:27 AM] martin1194#0000 I am thinking now [10-Jan-25 02:27 AM] martin1194#0000 Isn't Chem related to no faction :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: ? [10-Jan-25 02:28 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yeah thats true [10-Jan-25 02:31 AM] martin1194#0000 How ANT is good for chemicals? Cogc? [10-Jan-25 02:32 AM] max.kalina#0000 Bober and Griffonstone are Chem planets [10-Jan-25 02:33 AM] max.kalina#0000 Griffonstone is situated far, Bober needs TSH [10-Jan-25 02:33 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I didnt think that much. Just think chem and metal should be on same tree branch [10-Jan-25 02:33 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 so no furthur plan atm, just AL FE STL etc. [10-Jan-25 02:34 AM] martin1194#0000 I seeeee. [10-Jan-25 02:34 AM] martin1194#0000 But true. [10-Jan-25 02:34 AM] martin1194#0000 Here have more ore. [10-Jan-25 02:34 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yep. ORE, my favourite [10-Jan-25 02:34 AM] martin1194#0000 HRT have mostly planet :Pepepains: [10-Jan-25 02:35 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 not into farming related thing [10-Jan-25 02:36 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 just different direction. HRT is really a great base though [10-Jan-25 08:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 639d, 759d, ki-840c, electronica, elon [10-Jan-25 08:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 I'd do all of those before bober to avoid tsh [10-Jan-25 08:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 I set them but they're not saving, I close the buffer and reopen and poof gone {Reactions} ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [10-Jan-25 09:55 AM] archielvahr#0000 Hmmm bummer [10-Jan-25 09:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 Can anyone else with the governor role see the role list when they right click on someone's name? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Jan-25 09:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327304978888528014/image.png?ex=6814eb17&is=68139997&hm=a48f40290f8bc15ae4a6ebbfc47b23fc201568873eba49ab49a1a9226789fdc7& [10-Jan-25 09:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think it's set up that way [10-Jan-25 09:57 AM] tyrandia#0000 Hmm. [10-Jan-25 09:57 AM] tyrandia#0000 I would check if I wasn't just parliament. Lol [10-Jan-25 10:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah at the moment the governor role is our proxy for being a "moderator" on the discord server. That distributes some of the common administrative tasks like role setting and such. It's a holdover from early universe when there were fewer planets and also the old politics system (before parliaments). But it's worked fine so we haven't changed it ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [10-Jan-25 10:28 AM] roche3950#0000 I was about to ask, Archi, does โ€œaccidental governorโ€ have a role? [10-Jan-25 10:28 AM] roche3950#0000 ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Jan-25 10:29 AM] tyrandia#0000 It should. XD [10-Jan-25 10:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 haha sure [10-Jan-25 10:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also you have to remind someone, cause it doesn't really get audited [10-Jan-25 10:37 AM] roche3950#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327315301829967933/image0.gif?ex=6814f4b4&is=6813a334&hm=72cf9cfeddd44e9cf88d0501d4615f569bc57b88ebf3538eeaf65254ed4c7526& [10-Jan-25 11:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 looks like it's the temporary buffers I'm opening where it's not saving [10-Jan-25 11:52 AM] hernanduer#0000 huh how annoying [10-Jan-25 12:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh that's interesting, did you report that as a bug? [10-Jan-25 12:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I see you in there right now ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜… [10-Jan-25 04:05 PM] bookliko#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327397930277146675/proxy-image.png?ex=681498e8&is=68134768&hm=cf97ff33c91ff4910988af46a5ea741c6f4ce58daaa3c6825eb26432c7d62a92& [10-Jan-25 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 When are we getting moon mining?!?! [10-Jan-25 04:16 PM] bookliko#0000 https://tenor.com/view/duh-sarcastic-whatever-gif-874996418923210673 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/duh-sarcastic-whatever-gif-874996418923210673 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ssQXTIK3RDnvrzLpnyoKUnrA7mWX0NUya0EECOXMA1w/https/media.tenor.com/DCScm2moJ7EAAAAe/duh-sarcastic.png [10-Jan-25 04:16 PM] bookliko#0000 This decade {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† [10-Jan-25 04:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 looks like it's definitely time for more FP bases ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1327405243188903978/image.png?ex=68149fb7&is=68134e37&hm=9b2c5becc24f6c496da9f4903a74da01ce9d77c2613ee62649aa19c115e838fa& [10-Jan-25 07:09 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 Ive got a problem. I accepted a Deimos local contract but the contractor just didnt proceed to fulfill the contract even the game says he is online. What should I do, just wait ? [10-Jan-25 07:09 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 ๐Ÿฅน [10-Jan-25 07:13 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah just wait [10-Jan-25 07:18 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 alright then [10-Jan-25 07:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah lots of people check like once a day [10-Jan-25 07:44 PM] tyrandia#0000 I feel like you need some carbon. [11-Jan-25 06:53 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 well, could anybody please tell me how to check my equilty chart ? [11-Jan-25 06:53 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 didn't find the right cmd [11-Jan-25 07:00 AM] martin1194#0000 Are u installed PMMG? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Jan-25 11:45 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's `XIT FINCH` but you need refined prun {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Jan-25 11:46 AM] archielvahr#0000 Get started Chrome: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/refined-prun/coabeheneafgglpakallmkienlidgaof Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/refined-prun/ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [11-Jan-25 01:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 Finished upgrading hqโ€ฆ 5 empty permts availableโ€ฆ time for E X P A N S I O N [11-Jan-25 01:37 PM] tyrandia#0000 Nice! [11-Jan-25 01:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 thinking about 3 EPO bases, 1 FLX/NS base, 1 PG base [11-Jan-25 01:40 PM] marat_sh#0000 it will bring my total 4k EPO per day [11-Jan-25 01:53 PM] evov#0000 IA-151d and IA-158c are two chem bases in case you're interested ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ [11-Jan-25 05:25 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 installed, very useful tool, thanks very much ! ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [16-Jan-25 01:03 AM] martin1194#0000 It is no way to create repeating contract? [16-Jan-25 01:24 AM] max.kalina#0000 Only make a draft and send it regularly manually {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [16-Jan-25 10:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 Hey @altf4forbetterlife and @_alecto - I wanted to check in with your both since we're approaching the end of your trials. See if you had any questions and needed anything from the corp, if you're figuring out everything okay, etc [16-Jan-25 10:45 AM] _alecto#0000 Much appreciated. I'm doing alright, been working on a new build. Been a bit absent this week due to RL stuff. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Jan-25 06:57 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 Really good experience ! Actually today is a big expansion day I'm adding another permit to my HQ Aluminium base and expand my prod line ๐Ÿ™‚ OOG really makes feels like a strong bonded inter-stellar financial corp. Looking forward to join [16-Jan-25 06:57 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 Planning to build more metal base in the next few months, and upgrade my products afterwards [16-Jan-25 07:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 Sounds excellent! [16-Jan-25 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 AL is in high demand lately, so that'll be profitable for you [16-Jan-25 07:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 Lots of really good prices for new players. DW is really profitable now, and if if you go further down the food processing chain, FIM and MEA are likely to stay really profitable. [16-Jan-25 07:05 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yeah that's true. I've deeply studied FIM before I COLIQ to ANT space. [16-Jan-25 07:05 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 and AL price just strikes up to 850 per unit, my #1 Happy News this morning haha [16-Jan-25 07:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think we're still a few months out on the gateway stuff. There's probably not a lot of good gateway items at the immediate moment for new players to get into.. except that I think the gateway projects indirectly drive up the prices of the base goods like C, AL, RAT, and DW [16-Jan-25 07:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you run into price spikes on your key production materials like Carbon, just ask in corp [16-Jan-25 07:06 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'm planning to develop my Deimos AL base to full and start a Carbon production center to support my metal industry [16-Jan-25 07:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 we often hold stockpiles to insulate against price shocks [16-Jan-25 07:07 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 oh wow that's sweet [16-Jan-25 07:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah very nice ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jan-25 07:07 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 what about FE/STL, is that in hot mode ? [16-Jan-25 07:07 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'm planning to have a base on Vulcan [16-Jan-25 07:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 FE and STL don't get a ton of use cause they are heavy and annoying to move, and for construction fabs, AL is better [16-Jan-25 07:08 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 ok I get it [16-Jan-25 07:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 I use FE in MHL and alloys, and a bit of STL for Rfabs [16-Jan-25 07:08 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 then I'll search for another AL planet and start a exactly same base [16-Jan-25 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that works, or you can eventually mix in ASMs into Deimos [16-Jan-25 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 ASMs eat up your SME output pretty quickly [16-Jan-25 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 And the alloy metals tend to go into ship components and that sort of thing [16-Jan-25 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 All depends what you plan to do with the AL (or other SME outputs) [16-Jan-25 07:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1329618656069419080/image.png?ex=6814c41e&is=6813729e&hm=01f1850ff9ad17dcdade96e5595cc497c60b93778922d65f64bef7595ae31589& [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 This is one of my favorite setups for making Carbon + RATs/DW [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 Normally my HYFs make HCP instead of CAF, but there's a bit of a coffee shortage lately so they switched over [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 it's kinda everything you need in one system [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 in this case Thalassa looks sweet [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 ISA is more expensive to build on than Etherwind, but has a higher profit per base [16-Jan-25 07:10 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'll dig into it [16-Jan-25 07:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also we govern everything on Thalassa now that our friends at FICSIT have gone afk {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Jan-25 07:11 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 seems like no market potential for alloys [16-Jan-25 07:11 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 so I need to build ship components my self with alloys ? [16-Jan-25 07:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 You can sell them to someone in the corp with a SKF, melon or Bookliko or TimurOm or... someone I am forgetting [16-Jan-25 07:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 basically it's almost impossible to keep a SKF running on your own, it just eats too many metals [16-Jan-25 07:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 If you go down that route, you will want to check in with everyone on what to make. I think LCBs are pretty reliable, they are 200 AST each [16-Jan-25 07:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 it's kinda easy to end up with excess alloys of one type and have trouble selling them [16-Jan-25 07:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 because it's a balance thing [16-Jan-25 07:19 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 roger that, I'll consider this route after I've got enough metal lines and all the other basic things settled ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 thanks for pointing this out [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 if you want to go into construction and make a ton of LSE / LBH, maybe you do want to go straight 100% AL [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yeah but currently I'm keen on accumulate more and more metal lines ๐Ÿ™‚ [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 it just looks interesting [16-Jan-25 07:20 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jan-25 07:21 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 yep, 100%AL will be awesome [16-Jan-25 07:21 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 "AL guy" [16-Jan-25 07:21 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 haha [16-Jan-25 07:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's good to have an AL guy or two ๐Ÿ˜„ [16-Jan-25 07:21 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'll work hard to gain that name [16-Jan-25 07:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 We already got a HAL guy so now we just need an AL guy [16-Jan-25 07:26 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 wow it's really exciting to be useful to a corp [16-Jan-25 07:26 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 dear lord [16-Jan-25 07:26 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 I'm really into this game, unexpectedly {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (5) [16-Jan-25 08:14 PM] exeler#0000 Or five or ten. I've been an "AL guy" since my like 3rd base. Just I use it all myself making plates and fabs now ๐Ÿ˜… [17-Jan-25 03:01 PM] katinga#0000 I really wish these numbers in red were a bit bigger. I have a hard time reading small text {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1329918612210847808/image.png?ex=681489f9&is=68133879&hm=23c86c7f84743203df8ac65c1967f32befd5da570e6584d7622553951491cde5& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [18-Jan-25 01:57 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 guys I'm confused. Why does my company value according to XIT FINCH keeps dropping while my company is making real profit ? [18-Jan-25 02:27 AM] martin1194#0000 I am not in front of computer. [18-Jan-25 02:28 AM] martin1194#0000 May I get a screenshot of it? [18-Jan-25 04:13 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 sorry me neither. but its dropping slightly from 12.9 mil @Jan 12 to 12.83 @ today. [18-Jan-25 04:13 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 During this period I've produce and sell AL and already expand my prod line to 15 SME + 9 EXT + 2 COL [18-Jan-25 07:05 AM] allocater#0000 if you hold a lot of goods and then on the CX the value of the good changes, the entire company value changes [18-Jan-25 10:49 AM] archielvahr#0000 It also tracks building depreciation. But itโ€™s almost certainly the market price of goods changing like allocater said. [19-Jan-25 05:11 AM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 roger that, thanks [19-Jan-25 10:46 PM] hernanduer#0000 ๐Ÿฅฒ [19-Jan-25 10:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that guy ๐Ÿ˜† [19-Jan-25 10:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Honestly I probably forgot more than one [19-Jan-25 10:47 PM] hernanduer#0000 I do already make excess ASM products anyways now that I've moved away from some shield production [20-Jan-25 09:24 AM] akyantor#0000 Multi-commodity contracts... ๐Ÿš€ https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2025/01/20/bulk-buying-467 {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2025/01/20/bulk-buying-467 Bulk Buying - Development Log #467 | Prosperous Universe Michi talks about why the team will take a short break from the gateway development and what they'll do instead. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WwkSXGMCJrlKJFm6l5Ji9QKX3lacKGbh7tvxKNBhbtA/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/release_early_access.jpg {Reactions} โค๏ธ [20-Jan-25 09:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 I think the sell contract is the more used one, really hope they're not just ignoring it [20-Jan-25 09:50 AM] hernanduer#0000 He does say "So far..." but that far could be over any range of time ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Jan-25 10:16 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I donโ€™t generally use the templates but the new features seem to go into that. But once the ship contract is made I guess itโ€™s fine [20-Jan-25 10:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 And as long as XIT actions can make them from strings we will be okay haha [20-Jan-25 11:02 AM] martin1194#0000 How everyone to remember election time? Seem the API didn't provide data. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1330945569673445436/image.png?ex=6814faa7&is=6813a927&hm=9e860cd1fca70e58e1f4c10e56ecba8c696210e8cf08033482032f12e980192f& [20-Jan-25 11:03 AM] mrsmith33#0000 notifications in the game {Reactions} blob_cry [20-Jan-25 11:03 AM] martin1194#0000 Was making my own excel for better game experience . :3 [20-Jan-25 11:07 AM] martin1194#0000 Then, I try to don't miss notification about election. ๐Ÿคฃ Was ignored all not about contracts/arrived [20-Jan-25 11:29 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ohh election time Yeah [20-Jan-25 11:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 It is a lot of work to retrieve ๐Ÿ˜ญ [20-Jan-25 11:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1330952862913790023/image.png?ex=68150172&is=6813aff2&hm=510d3865d8060d1a647ada4fa897b0cc56a2b2531bae5ab9ee4419a90213a6cf& [20-Jan-25 11:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 If you pull a user's data via country code, and look at the offices, you can find the StartEpoch and endEpoch [20-Jan-25 11:33 AM] archielvahr#0000 So what I used to do is pull each planet, find the username of the governor, then pull the governor by companycode [20-Jan-25 11:33 AM] archielvahr#0000 then list their office history, (which is very long) [20-Jan-25 11:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 then pull the largest endEpoch [20-Jan-25 11:34 AM] archielvahr#0000 Which you can convert to an actual date with some work [20-Jan-25 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 But this hasn't worked well since the politics update, due to the changes in offices [20-Jan-25 11:35 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think maybe if you move from rest.ffnar.net to https://api.fnar.net/index.html (which is the newer one), you might get good office data [20-Jan-25 11:36 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's really hard to do the multidimensional stuff in a sheet. So I moved a lot of my stuff into google apps script [20-Jan-25 11:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 This is what I use, but I don't think it works great. Maybe it can be a starting point for you [20-Jan-25 11:38 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://gist.github.com/andykorth/267cb40ddd680611453e783748678717 {Embed} https://gist.github.com/andykorth/267cb40ddd680611453e783748678717 archiel.js GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7lesHV5TJfXV9rDct_prZ0T8dzM8AdALoVfer2-rnhs/https/github.githubassets.com/assets/gist-og-image-54fd7dc0713e.png [20-Jan-25 11:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 honestly I think this needs to be converted to a webapp or something, and it's just too complex to work well in google sheets [20-Jan-25 01:02 PM] martin1194#0000 -0-!! Will check what request is good for get data related to election. [20-Jan-25 01:03 PM] martin1194#0000 u use this to update ur google excel? [20-Jan-25 01:04 PM] martin1194#0000 Hell yeah. Google sheets can not do well if ton of request. But it also the time if need to research how to make a website. ;_; [20-Jan-25 01:05 PM] martin1194#0000 Was wanna make C++ program for drag data. But sucked in CURL installation on my computer. :/ [20-Jan-25 01:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah the google sheet just stops working if there are too many ImportJSON or ImportData requests. [20-Jan-25 01:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also I'm not sure if the Members of Parliament show up in the API, or only the governors [20-Jan-25 01:09 PM] martin1194#0000 U can press try it out on the website [20-Jan-25 01:10 PM] martin1194#0000 ๐Ÿ’€ [20-Jan-25 01:11 PM] martin1194#0000 I will see if I can put some time into researching it or not. Was told to help the Discord Bot dev in the past, but I only make tiny function on it. :bird_pnk: {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [20-Jan-25 01:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. Ideally we could make a website like Prunplanner, but just for looking up these sorts of things [20-Jan-25 01:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 but that's a lot of work [20-Jan-25 01:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 and I don't like web dev ๐Ÿ˜… [20-Jan-25 01:17 PM] martin1194#0000 ummm. Then, how u made Ooga offical website? :Pepepains: [20-Jan-25 01:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Jan-25 01:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah good point ๐Ÿ˜… [20-Jan-25 01:18 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's mostly made in Hugo, which... well at least it's not React! [20-Jan-25 01:19 PM] martin1194#0000 That website is cool. [20-Jan-25 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 Thanks! [20-Jan-25 01:19 PM] martin1194#0000 Hugo. New framework. [20-Jan-25 01:19 PM] archielvahr#0000 If anyone wants to write posts for it, it's really easy. They are just markdown [20-Jan-25 01:19 PM] martin1194#0000 First to hear this name. [20-Jan-25 01:20 PM] martin1194#0000 um. I think I have no idea to write a long text/story for anyone. ๐Ÿคฃ [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah heh [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Akyan did the new player text and I converted it to Markdown pretty easily [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 he started them all in google docs [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] martin1194#0000 Ask GPT to make a story. :Pepepains: [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] martin1194#0000 btw, this tool {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1330980648185364552/image.png?ex=68151b52&is=6813c9d2&hm=84fb176e22e90237b5713bc19dac9cd536cea574a77cfea6c91cecef1a9277ce& [20-Jan-25 01:21 PM] martin1194#0000 What is it? [20-Jan-25 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ahh it's when I started to write something to do message lookups, but I didnt' get very far so it doens't do anything [20-Jan-25 01:22 PM] archielvahr#0000 but I left it on there to make people wonder ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Jan-25 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 The idea was: If someone new applies, you could put in their company code, and it would show their FIO info, plus all their APEX Chat and UFO chat. To make it easier to screen new applicants [20-Jan-25 01:23 PM] archielvahr#0000 Also I have spies in most of the private corp discords, which is helpful sometimes [20-Jan-25 01:24 PM] martin1194#0000 Oh, so just a tool to help guide new members. [20-Jan-25 01:26 PM] martin1194#0000 It is hard to do. I guess there are no API from Discord. Can not get UFO chat. [20-Jan-25 01:26 PM] martin1194#0000 But the only way is, u add a bot in the UFO server. [20-Jan-25 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 There is an API to retrieve messages without a bot [20-Jan-25 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter?tab=readme-ov-file {Embed} https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter?tab=readme-ov-file GitHub - Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter: Exports Discord chat logs to a... Exports Discord chat logs to a file. Contribute to Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter development by creating an account on GitHub. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/BiM4-bwdlk1OQXb13PzQ6Ll8g0Pj-KjqzLCK8BprSmo/https/opengraph.githubassets.com/2f450c3e9c93b44ac9ced0d7805d5d6a022a4468cf1f75d32bae54c06e3fe41b/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter [20-Jan-25 01:30 PM] martin1194#0000 D: [20-Jan-25 01:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 And it's quite fast even for large number of messages [20-Jan-25 01:31 PM] martin1194#0000 OMG. This plugin. [20-Jan-25 01:32 PM] martin1194#0000 Crazy. [20-Jan-25 01:32 PM] martin1194#0000 First to know too [20-Jan-25 01:33 PM] martin1194#0000 Sorts for Local Market? And Sorts for election? What else? :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: [20-Jan-25 01:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think * Reminders for elections * Reminders for filling COGC * Reminders to vote for COGC * Maybe some sort of POPI tracking..? I don't really use local markets anymore [20-Jan-25 01:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh and the things for corp administration I used to do in the sheets: * List of Players in the corp * List the activity ratings ( did they go inactive) * Track some basics, how many bases they have, governor positions, etc [20-Jan-25 01:37 PM] katinga#0000 well governorships on planets that matter at least [20-Jan-25 01:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. I'm not sure what I'd want to see out of that sort of part. Like if a planet like Harmonia has no one running, we should have a red flag so we notice that. But also just like: "Oh hey Katinga is the MP of these 3 planets" is nice to know without opening the `usr` panel for every one of the 30 people in the corp [20-Jan-25 01:40 PM] katinga#0000 my 3 in Romulan space don't really matter in the grand scheme of things [20-Jan-25 01:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah but it helps to know to keep track of players who go inactive. Like sometimes we have governors who kinda quit without saying anything [20-Jan-25 01:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 And no one notices until it's kinda too late ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [20-Jan-25 02:03 PM] martin1194#0000 track who is governors but inactive? :Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated: [20-Jan-25 02:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Haven't thought it out too much, but any extra information that helps us avoid that sort of thing [20-Jan-25 07:42 PM] martin1194#0000 I see. So it is a kinda tool for Governor. {Reactions} Panda_Derp_Drinking_Animated [20-Jan-25 07:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah or "corp management" more generally [20-Jan-25 10:35 PM] .urpalhal#0000 what should I do to celebrate one year of Friendly Metals? [20-Jan-25 10:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 I dunno but if you want 100 HEX for the party, I can hook you up! ๐Ÿ˜† [20-Jan-25 10:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 PRUN needs more in-game party options {Reactions} partyhehe [20-Jan-25 10:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 woah I just went to check mine: [20-Jan-25 10:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/screenshot_012025_223616.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/screenshot_012025_223616.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/sBUAWWfqVTOGTBXkE-H4esmmG3oHiuObBSawO3en4C0/http/kortham.net/temp/screenshot_012025_223616.png {Reactions} fishahhh (3) ๐Ÿ“ˆ (4) ๐ŸŽ‰ (7) [20-Jan-25 10:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Lol does a give away of 3650 HAL {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐ŸŽ‰ [21-Jan-25 05:05 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 oh my god, I just bought some Carbon that exceed my CX INV storage and it just disappeared. What should I do? It worths 200k AIC๐Ÿฅน [21-Jan-25 05:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 Check your conts! {Reactions} โ˜๏ธ (3) [21-Jan-25 08:33 PM] roche3950#0000 Hrrm, 4,000 MED per week to be number 1... [21-Jan-25 09:02 PM] altf4forbetterlife#0000 got it, thanks a lot๐Ÿ‘ [22-Jan-25 07:36 AM] max.kalina#0000 It stays on CX until you fulfilled the contract [22-Jan-25 09:54 AM] martin1194#0000 Need HE at ZV-194b [22-Jan-25 09:54 AM] martin1194#0000 [22-Jan-25 09:55 AM] martin1194#0000 I turn my production to TRU and wanna reduce the price [22-Jan-25 10:44 AM] archielvahr#0000 My HE production isn't fully up to speed yet ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Jan-25 11:41 AM] martin1194#0000 What ever, reduce price of TRU at ANT. Let's go : D [22-Jan-25 11:41 AM] martin1194#0000 Trying to transport from BEN/MOR now [22-Jan-25 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think he sold his entire stock into the sell orders: [22-Jan-25 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1331687715820929055/image.png?ex=68150ad5&is=6813b955&hm=312da0a6aa34442c348eb572558c1a4641640f296d646db25946930667168dab& [22-Jan-25 12:11 PM] archielvahr#0000 who had open sells? [22-Jan-25 12:11 PM] .urpalhal#0000 lol wut [22-Jan-25 12:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean for all the disruption it was probably only 5m of cost to him [22-Jan-25 12:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I mean my listing was just under 1 mil not sure how much other stuff there was [22-Jan-25 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 This was yesterday [22-Jan-25 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1331688453221384295/image.png?ex=68150b84&is=6813ba04&hm=6bce897994a2919a21b76323eb4ff54a5adef18ace5781365bdd3367da6d9c12& [22-Jan-25 12:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 And all those are gone [22-Jan-25 12:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 All? ๐Ÿ‘€ [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yep all of em. You can see 10k units moved about an hour ago [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 who is upstream industries? [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Uh [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Roganartu [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Or Rise [22-Jan-25 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 ah yeah roganartu [22-Jan-25 12:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 ๐Ÿ˜Ž {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [22-Jan-25 12:32 PM] melon164#0000 Oh wow, that was a Rain order at the bottom ๐Ÿคฏ [22-Jan-25 12:32 PM] melon164#0000 That must have been there for years [22-Jan-25 09:49 PM] roche3950#0000 Was the base projects chat removed? [22-Jan-25 10:01 PM] archielvahr#0000 I donโ€™t think anything was removed. Do you mean the channel #base-sponsoring ? [23-Jan-25 03:27 PM] .urpalhal#0000 @akyantor you sent me a buy contract instead of a sell contract [23-Jan-25 03:27 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Thanks [23-Jan-25 03:36 PM] roche3950#0000 Ah no I thought there was a chat that was like base-projects or something [23-Jan-25 03:36 PM] roche3950#0000 To not put project orders into main order chat [23-Jan-25 03:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [23-Jan-25 03:43 PM] archielvahr#0000 Maybe hq-upgrades? That was always specifically for those weird HQ items. (which are pretty common these days) [25-Jan-25 11:31 AM] sidepipe#0000 Anyone in corp interested in more SI? looking at filling out the rest of my Hyalos base [25-Jan-25 04:58 PM] evov#0000 I've been buying about 100 SI per day on average over the last few months. Feel free to cont me anywhere between 500 and 1000 SI / week if that helps. [25-Jan-25 05:10 PM] hernanduer#0000 I still buy lots of SI on CX [26-Jan-25 06:55 AM] roche3950#0000 https://youtu.be/kj5T6rQjh9E?si=hUGb5OPPefPyxjMD malahat scientists on break {Embed} 4SeasonPro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj5T6rQjh9E Extreme Japanese Tire Ski Jump Rolling Japanese Tire Ski Jump https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zfa6Py9aK-zddLQ3xQ5Fk3esYtMW44J4G7KzFEfjTRA/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/kj5T6rQjh9E/hqdefault.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ (2) [27-Jan-25 11:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2025/01/27/bulk-selling-468 {Embed} https://prosperousuniverse.com/blog/2025/01/27/bulk-selling-468 Bulk Selling - Development Log #468 | Prosperous Universe Michi finishes the multi-commodity contract implementation and talks about the upcoming maintenance release. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/J_7oEiiXj5S5pC-lAEflnEjkT-bazorggzkiUpm1znU/https/cdn.prosperousuniverse.com/website/og_image/release_f2p.jpg {Reactions} ๐Ÿฅณ (2) [27-Jan-25 11:27 AM] mrsmith33#0000 https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/release-notes-maintenance-2025-01 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/release-notes-maintenance-2025-01 Release Notes - Maintenance 2025.01 Release date The maintenance release 2024.01 will be released on TBA General Notes If your APEX console is stuck in a loading state after the update, please make sure to refresh it once after the update to ensure you got the latest version. New features Multi-item contracts The buy, sell and ship templates in the CONTD command now allow to add... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/0x4pxXwPhDSyEdKHATThlw3dHWt2SblGXSKmHgt2dYw/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bde88406f88f9bfec128839c9f8889ec320cc8d3.png [27-Jan-25 11:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 No IDC nerfs announced {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ญ [27-Jan-25 03:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 I posted some ads to sell FEO on the Vulcan LM, grab em while they are hot [27-Jan-25 04:05 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yo, FEO prices are insane {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1333558625943158825/image.png?ex=68149900&is=68134780&hm=afab24caf991de99cdd6853b5e4774d3ea90b4f5cc09235b6ccf781d19924834& [27-Jan-25 04:06 PM] mrsmith33#0000 good, that I'm mining my own now [27-Jan-25 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I usually have excess on Vulcan [27-Jan-25 04:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I only have two EXTs hehe [28-Jan-25 05:40 AM] akyantor#0000 HUGE CARGO BAY - 5k/5k now available!!!! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1333763715564306473/image.png?ex=6814af41&is=68135dc1&hm=8f3db4a0315bb0d9043f71f0d56db114391f6b0a470ceb16265b7278f43feb10& [28-Jan-25 05:46 AM] akyantor#0000 It's super slow though... if you do a like for like translant of a LCB (right) for a HCB (left) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1333765016620634204/image.png?ex=6814b078&is=68135ef8&hm=d5eb903ffe29c8e6257550f976927487de4ed47fede50cf080917d3269971ccf& [28-Jan-25 06:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 For some reason I though that 500t/500m is its capacity, but it is just item weight [28-Jan-25 06:11 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Now we need huge weight/volume versions [28-Jan-25 06:41 AM] sidepipe#0000 Rejoice! The devs renamed Elon, it seems ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-25 06:44 AM] katinga#0000 And now I can't find it. I have a warehouse there [28-Jan-25 06:44 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s Origa now, I think. Threw me for a loop when I logged in too [28-Jan-25 06:45 AM] max.kalina#0000 Why not Bober๐Ÿคฃ [28-Jan-25 06:49 AM] akyantor#0000 5k/5k is pretty massive, makes for a very slow boat... requires a lot more emmitters and hull/shield components too [28-Jan-25 06:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe Bober is next ๐Ÿ˜ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [28-Jan-25 07:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 Woaahhhh nice, wasn't expecting that today [28-Jan-25 07:47 AM] zipatsu#0000 Was expecting it sometime next year ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [28-Jan-25 07:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 I was also expecting it to use the new metal [28-Jan-25 08:01 AM] katinga#0000 what's the new metal's shorthand? [28-Jan-25 08:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 RHE - Rhenium is the base metal [28-Jan-25 08:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 then it has two alloys in an ASM, ALR and WRH [28-Jan-25 08:48 AM] katinga#0000 It doesn't seem that I can search for it on the Map yet [28-Jan-25 08:48 AM] katinga#0000 Is RHO the ore? [28-Jan-25 08:50 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah RHO is the ore, but it shouldn't be released yet [28-Jan-25 08:50 AM] archielvahr#0000 I don't think it's even on the test server [28-Jan-25 08:51 AM] katinga#0000 Let me know what materials you need to make the new ship. I'm always smelting [28-Jan-25 09:05 AM] archielvahr#0000 Make as much WAL as you can [28-Jan-25 09:06 AM] katinga#0000 I don't make WAL. I mine and smelt [28-Jan-25 09:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 It's _fancy smelting_ ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-25 09:09 AM] archielvahr#0000 I imagine the W and AL markets won't really be affected by the increased need for WAL [28-Jan-25 09:17 AM] katinga#0000 I can provide the AL part of the WAL! [28-Jan-25 07:03 PM] roche3950#0000 really out-there question but: anyone need ZIR? [28-Jan-25 07:04 PM] roche3950#0000 for the low, low price of 'please help me get unstuck from this permit' [28-Jan-25 07:16 PM] .urpalhal#0000 WYM get unstuck from this permit? [28-Jan-25 07:23 PM] roche3950#0000 Unwinding deal I had with Rise [28-Jan-25 07:23 PM] roche3950#0000 Stuck with bunch of ZIR [28-Jan-25 07:23 PM] roche3950#0000 Cannot close the base until it's all gone [28-Jan-25 07:29 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ll take some [28-Jan-25 07:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ahh that makes sense [28-Jan-25 07:33 PM] roche3950#0000 Can I contract at KI-401b [28-Jan-25 07:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Sure I have no storage there [28-Jan-25 07:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 So Iโ€™ll have to wait for a ship or get some WAR [28-Jan-25 07:34 PM] roche3950#0000 Government only allows 2 WAR spots [28-Jan-25 07:34 PM] roche3950#0000 which is extremely frustrating [28-Jan-25 07:34 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ah yeah [28-Jan-25 07:35 PM] roche3950#0000 Otherwise I'd've dealt with it myself ๐Ÿ™ƒ [28-Jan-25 07:36 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Uh [28-Jan-25 07:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can send a WCB [28-Jan-25 07:37 PM] .urpalhal#0000 So 618 ZIR [28-Jan-25 07:38 PM] .urpalhal#0000 How much do you have? [28-Jan-25 07:39 PM] roche3950#0000 1,135 [28-Jan-25 07:39 PM] roche3950#0000 618 will help a lot [28-Jan-25 07:49 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ok will you send me a sell cont so I can pick it up? [28-Jan-25 07:50 PM] roche3950#0000 Did 10 mins ago {Reactions} fishahhh [28-Jan-25 07:50 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Ok cool thanks [28-Jan-25 07:51 PM] roche3950#0000 E3RFW7D if need ID [28-Jan-25 07:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I making dinner so Iโ€™m just away from my computer [28-Jan-25 07:54 PM] roche3950#0000 ok [28-Jan-25 08:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can send a WCB, always happy to take more ZIR ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Jan-25 08:04 PM] roche3950#0000 Great thanks [28-Jan-25 08:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can send for 517 then? That looks like the remainder [28-Jan-25 08:07 PM] roche3950#0000 I actually threw 300 on the ship to ANT :facepalm: [28-Jan-25 08:08 PM] roche3950#0000 But have 338 more at 401b itself if you want to amend contract {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [28-Jan-25 08:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 I got a warehouse, but the ship will be there in 17 hr [28-Jan-25 09:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1333997638747422881/image.png?ex=6814e05d&is=68138edd&hm=b92b8dd6f5223b21c8717fe25bd3ffd09595d364de67dacc8dbd5d6651d238e3& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ™€ (2) ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [28-Jan-25 09:10 PM] archielvahr#0000 GETBLUF! [29-Jan-25 12:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I need some [29-Jan-25 01:06 AM] .urpalhal#0000 You can have the 600 some odd I got I checked and I have 15 days worth at griffonstone [29-Jan-25 01:06 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ll bring it to ANT for ya too {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Jan-25 11:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Do planetary projects need no special mats like INS/HSE/TSH? [29-Jan-25 11:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 correct [29-Jan-25 11:28 AM] mrsmith33#0000 [29-Jan-25 11:38 AM] roche3950#0000 Remind me please: planetary infra buildings require upkeep, right? How can I view what is needed? [29-Jan-25 11:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Only COGC and POPI needs supply [29-Jan-25 11:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Click PPS on the top of PLI buffer [29-Jan-25 11:46 AM] roche3950#0000 ah, I see [29-Jan-25 11:58 AM] roche3950#0000 what is the upkeep value that I see for instance on STR for, then? [29-Jan-25 11:58 AM] roche3950#0000 Stretchers needed for Infirmaries in this instance [29-Jan-25 12:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 you'll want to watch for efficiencies there [29-Jan-25 12:03 PM] hernanduer#0000 some goods in POPI are 10x more efficient than others [29-Jan-25 12:04 PM] roche3950#0000 obligatory statement of interests: I want to try to top the charts on a lot of the medical-themed goods, but I want to plan for what I can actually sell vs. when Iโ€™m purely gonna be roleplaying, lol. [29-Jan-25 12:05 PM] hernanduer#0000 unfortunately there's not really a market for any of them, and if you get paid at all it won't recoup your costs in producing the items a lot of times [29-Jan-25 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 TUB is about the only one that gets significant use [29-Jan-25 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 and some drone stuff might use some items? [29-Jan-25 12:06 PM] hernanduer#0000 but there's very low need on that [29-Jan-25 12:06 PM] roche3950#0000 ADR and SDR can be dumped into MM [29-Jan-25 12:06 PM] roche3950#0000 again obligatory statement of it being an irrational goal/for funsies as opposed to raw efficiency [29-Jan-25 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 ah yeah okay, at least you won't go bankrupt with those MMs ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Jan-25 12:07 PM] hernanduer#0000 I get the RP part, just wanted to make sure it's even sustainable for you, that's all [29-Jan-25 12:07 PM] roche3950#0000 ^.^ [29-Jan-25 12:08 PM] roche3950#0000 Itโ€™s a matter of prioritizing [29-Jan-25 12:08 PM] roche3950#0000 Once I can sustain with the actually tradable stuff I can branch into the RP [29-Jan-25 12:20 PM] roche3950#0000 and not to mention the actual consumable stuff, though the numbers on those are questionable [29-Jan-25 12:20 PM] roche3950#0000 think I had a discussion with Archiel once about SC and it being incredibly easy to fill the entire game with them [29-Jan-25 12:33 PM] roche3950#0000 I have 298 more landing at ANT tonight [29-Jan-25 12:33 PM] roche3950#0000 Want it ? [29-Jan-25 12:33 PM] mrsmith33#0000 yes [29-Jan-25 12:34 PM] roche3950#0000 Ok [29-Jan-25 12:39 PM] roche3950#0000 If you can kindly make contract (I am on mobile) [29-Jan-25 12:39 PM] mrsmith33#0000 price? [29-Jan-25 12:39 PM] mrsmith33#0000 and total quantity [29-Jan-25 12:51 PM] roche3950#0000 298 take it, tbh [29-Jan-25 12:52 PM] roche3950#0000 any money you pay is a suggested donation [29-Jan-25 04:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 fyi, I dropped a COGC and a new base on SE-751b if anyone's looking for more FP planets [29-Jan-25 04:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1334287294240264202/image.png?ex=68149ca0&is=68134b20&hm=6520e1ce9586b638a28d26cb10e9caf1da3823d64a2910631bebd9bb4b0cb7b1& [29-Jan-25 04:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'll probably add an ADM later on if more people show up - just wanted to mention it ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Jan-25 04:23 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Nice. I need one [29-Jan-25 04:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 There's 4 more open plots at the north pole ๐Ÿ™‚ [29-Jan-25 04:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'll be bringing out a safety station and maybe WAR with the next ship too [30-Jan-25 05:31 PM] archielvahr#0000 I landed on the planet and also upgraded the warehouse ๐Ÿ™‚ [30-Jan-25 05:48 PM] roche3950#0000 Still can only *attempt* fulfillment =/ [30-Jan-25 05:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 doh... okay.. I split the contract in half [30-Jan-25 05:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 I have two 2k ships there and a 1500 warehouse, but I guess it's like 1600t [30-Jan-25 06:05 PM] roche3950#0000 On phone so limited capacity but makes sense {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [31-Jan-25 09:51 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I looked at this planet and it seems a bit too far. Why not SE-052a for example? [31-Jan-25 09:52 AM] sidepipe#0000 I just chose it because itโ€™s relatively close to Thalassa / SE-110 and only needs INS [31-Jan-25 09:53 AM] mrsmith33#0000 SE-052a also needs SEA which is pretty much zero cost [31-Jan-25 09:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 Is it much closer to ANT? Iโ€™m on mobile right now so I canโ€™t check [31-Jan-25 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 I havenโ€™t dropped an ADM yet so I could still move if 052a makes more sense, just need some time to look at it [31-Jan-25 09:54 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1334914682724810854/image.png?ex=6814eaad&is=6813992d&hm=835638de4bf69e766a48823dd09dec38539b2e93b45af352b59b0c803b0d214c& [31-Jan-25 09:54 AM] sidepipe#0000 Nice map ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Jan-25 09:55 AM] sidepipe#0000 Let me take a look at 052a this evening - if the SEA isnโ€™t too much more expensive, itโ€™s probably better to move it now while the investment is relatively small [31-Jan-25 09:56 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is also `ZV-639c` which needs INS + HSE [31-Jan-25 09:56 AM] sidepipe#0000 I tend to lean towards more travel time for a cheaper base, but thatโ€™s only because I have slightly more ships than I need right now [31-Jan-25 09:57 AM] sidepipe#0000 Wouldnโ€™t HSE be pretty expensive for a base with 26 FP (or something like that?) [31-Jan-25 09:57 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yes, if you don't produce your own [31-Jan-25 09:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 260k with CX prices [31-Jan-25 09:58 AM] sidepipe#0000 Wellโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜… [31-Jan-25 09:58 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I do produce though {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1334915733343309885/image.png?ex=6814eba8&is=68139a28&hm=14c1e203d138ae3c9883d1fcd1c3a0ba677e0752db681526bb92448fc36fa877& [31-Jan-25 10:00 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll play around with those planets in prunplanner and see how base costs & travel times turn out - ideally, Iโ€™d like it to not be prohibitively expensive for non-OOGers to settle on since I think Antares really needs another FP planet [31-Jan-25 10:01 AM] sidepipe#0000 But I found SE-751b a while ago and didnโ€™t really look any further than that, so itโ€™s not like Iโ€™ve done a ton of research ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Jan-25 10:02 AM] mrsmith33#0000 SE-751 is so small {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1334916763670024243/image.png?ex=6814ec9e&is=68139b1e&hm=e637d3bcfae062bf1e6b8bec5c1cfc41a7e63d62b47c9c66299004a01ba35063& [31-Jan-25 10:04 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yep, and no resources worth turning it into anything but FP ๐Ÿ˜„ (or maybe Chem) [31-Jan-25 10:04 AM] sidepipe#0000 But the same can be said for 052a [31-Jan-25 10:10 AM] sidepipe#0000 If anyone else is also shopping for more FPs, please weigh in! Havenโ€™t colonized a planet before, so I wanna know what things people look for ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Jan-25 10:25 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1334922500001501355/image.png?ex=6814f1f5&is=6813a075&hm=6f0e11c7a74cbfe06bc57d85433303fefb8b26bdf59216a59f677453c7bdf6c4& [31-Jan-25 07:36 PM] lancercaster#0000 Hello. It's the creature formerly known as LancerCaster! I've been thinking about returning! [31-Jan-25 07:37 PM] lancercaster#0000 What's new? [31-Jan-25 07:51 PM] _alecto#0000 Hey y'all, just wanted to apologize for not being super active here. Still dealing with RL stuff, hoping to be back on top of things soon. [31-Jan-25 08:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 Woah welcome back @lancercaster ๐Ÿ˜„ They are still working on gateway stuff, I think that was probably started around when you stopped playing. We got multi item contracts and a 5k/5k Huge Cargo Bay just last week [31-Jan-25 08:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hey no worries melisma, we will be around when you are. If you are able to feed your buildings and keep them going, even if it's just once a week, you'll be in a good spot for when you want to expand {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† praybless [31-Jan-25 08:15 PM] lancercaster#0000 It seems I need to restart. [31-Jan-25 08:16 PM] lancercaster#0000 What's the best starting industry for Antares again? [31-Jan-25 08:17 PM] lancercaster#0000 Or should I get a ghost plot on Promitor again? [31-Jan-25 08:21 PM] _alecto#0000 Not a worry, I'm able to log in one a day typically. Thank you! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜Ž [31-Jan-25 08:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hmm, I think with your experience it probably doesn't matter. Deimos has open slots now [31-Jan-25 08:25 PM] archielvahr#0000 Only 11 slots at the moment, but you could start anywhere and grab Deimos. So if you want o keep a Prom base, that might make sense [31-Jan-25 08:32 PM] sidepipe#0000 SE-052a vs SE-751b [31-Jan-25 08:32 PM] lancercaster#0000 I always got frustrated with ICC because there's nothing to do there besides farm. Think I'll snag a spot on Deimos. [31-Jan-25 08:33 PM] lancercaster#0000 Oh wait it's just IC [31-Jan-25 08:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I only have planets in ANT [31-Jan-25 08:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 plus I guess Malahat in Northern Antares ๐Ÿ˜† [31-Jan-25 08:38 PM] archielvahr#0000 Make sure to get your cash from @allocater looks like you have $5,655,652 in the bank {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [31-Jan-25 08:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 Aaaaaannnd I just finished the January Gateway update, with plenty of time left ๐Ÿ˜… [31-Jan-25 08:48 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/gateway-update-jan-2025/ {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/posts/gateway-update-jan-2025/ Gateway Update, Jan 2025 | OOG Capital Management We begin collecting pledges as our 4th gateway is planned. {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [01-Feb-25 01:29 PM] roche3950#0000 Looks like we can't put multi-ship contracts on LM, sad [01-Feb-25 01:35 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah someone mentioned that. That would be really neat [01-Feb-25 03:50 PM] cptboby#0000 been stuck like this for hours , what do? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1335366638349975592/image.png?ex=68149558&is=681343d8&hm=f36d29d0d11e9b178e59f05182cc3fc414f2b5b60a9704a3c42616ce3b95e6c2& [01-Feb-25 03:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 wow never seen that before [01-Feb-25 03:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 I assume you force-refreshed the page? [01-Feb-25 03:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 scroll all the way down? is there a highlighted line in the flight? [01-Feb-25 03:59 PM] cptboby#0000 i aborted and still [01-Feb-25 04:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 if it's definitely stuck Molp can fix it [01-Feb-25 04:00 PM] cptboby#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1335369130043379842/image.png?ex=681497aa&is=6813462a&hm=00163b9d8b950ceb6b7f0f7900d77c0b74be60098ecd678883dff7c45f3925cf& [01-Feb-25 04:00 PM] cptboby#0000 what is molp? [01-Feb-25 04:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 the dev, you can ping @ molp here https://discord.com/channels/350171287785701388/359623296993722368 [01-Feb-25 04:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 And post those screenshots [01-Feb-25 04:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 And hopefully he's not gone all weekend, but he might be, heh [01-Feb-25 04:05 PM] cptboby#0000 ok nvm ,my system clock was rekt.. [01-Feb-25 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 oohh neat [01-Feb-25 05:16 PM] marat_sh#0000 making a base on bober is... certainly a chose [01-Feb-25 05:29 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I have a base on Bober [01-Feb-25 08:02 PM] marat_sh#0000 we will be neighbors then [02-Feb-25 11:33 AM] martin1194#0000 DDT high price reach {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1335664442154811606/image.png?ex=681501f2&is=6813b072&hm=c265774f0ade6b344ccfec44a0c2b5b7efbd2f4333666f9ee51dbff1fd7e29db& [02-Feb-25 12:28 PM] allocater#0000 it went from FIM to HER and has now reached DDT [02-Feb-25 12:33 PM] sidepipe#0000 Time to sell the 1000 Iโ€™ve had in store ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Feb-25 12:34 PM] marat_sh#0000 Bober ddt base under construction ๐Ÿšง [02-Feb-25 12:35 PM] sidepipe#0000 don't tell anyone, but I kinda started undersupplying the market when I saw HER go to the moon [02-Feb-25 12:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 I just want to have a base for all CL products [02-Feb-25 12:37 PM] martin1194#0000 DDT! [02-Feb-25 12:39 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've got some extra DDT at ABT if anyone needs it cheap in an emergency [02-Feb-25 12:39 PM] katinga#0000 Ralph finally did it! He sent Alice to the moon?! [02-Feb-25 12:43 PM] martin1194#0000 I am good with DDT but HER. [02-Feb-25 12:44 PM] martin1194#0000 I converting FP production line all to FIM and no more DW/RAT [02-Feb-25 12:44 PM] martin1194#0000 The HER weeeeeeeeee [02-Feb-25 12:44 PM] katinga#0000 what about HIM? [02-Feb-25 12:45 PM] martin1194#0000 HIM? [02-Feb-25 12:45 PM] martin1194#0000 Who is him? [02-Feb-25 12:45 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/powerpuff-girls-him-im-himmortal-himmortal-him-powerpuff-girls-gif-22109567 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/powerpuff-girls-him-im-himmortal-himmortal-him-powerpuff-girls-gif-22109567 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YqQRks8HHZLLMUC-dMxTrlW79jO1lNZgZ0SiMXm25RQ/https/media.tenor.com/HRP_31Fr1AkAAAAe/powerpuff-girls-him.png {Reactions} rrrrrrrrr (2) ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Feb-25 01:42 PM] lancercaster#0000 Dracula Flow [02-Feb-25 09:36 PM] martin1194#0000 Is that caskman who is running ADI plan? [02-Feb-25 09:37 PM] martin1194#0000 Cuz I joined Harmonia gov, and check the excel which sent by caskman. He can get DW 52ea and RAT90ea [02-Feb-25 09:38 PM] martin1194#0000 That makes Harmonia can balance the financial [02-Feb-25 10:51 PM] bookliko#0000 Not sue about ADI, but he is Harmonia Governor [02-Feb-25 10:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I think heโ€™s in Aluminum Alliance not ADI [02-Feb-25 10:56 PM] martin1194#0000 oh, so he buy from his Alliance. [02-Feb-25 10:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Can you share the sheet he linked? I'm not on Harmonia [03-Feb-25 12:31 AM] martin1194#0000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mYUNeLBCI_KEnR3qQ0npMyiVVjKPJZiFFhjHvLtS3o/edit?gid=0#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mYUNeLBCI_KEnR3qQ0npMyiVVjKPJZiFFhjHvLtS3o/edit?gid=0 Planet Governance https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/TrONmWgOIXHHbQxg0STENEJU2hUuFL_FYlQWD3zXz9k/https/lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/docs/AHkbwyKtq8GhZAhIcThZYF9onkqjyrpOFKHM23DoF4ZM4xt2qQmeVSyYmz-0LMT93-yM7hH0ISt6tfwLP2afzCN_TFQH-Bi-pWRtoygiZDCKJdhMmGHWeHU%3Dw1200-h630-p {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Feb-25 08:53 AM] hernanduer#0000 anyone else make another Aratora base or should I? ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Feb-25 08:55 AM] hernanduer#0000 eh I'll make one anyway {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [03-Feb-25 08:56 AM] hernanduer#0000 sitting on almost enough afabs for HQ level 31 and 32... gateways anytime now [03-Feb-25 09:56 AM] archielvahr#0000 Wow yeah those "internal costs" are super low. That looks like the numbers I had when I produced everything internally with zero markup. FIO has some internal numbers that are very low for a similar reason [03-Feb-25 09:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 I mean if he wants to supply at those rates, great ๐Ÿ™‚ [03-Feb-25 10:07 AM] martin1194#0000 Good for someone have a base there cuz cheaper tax, but not good for someone who making those stuff to him. [03-Feb-25 10:44 AM] martin1194#0000 Sorry, I need to correct it. He making his own stuff for gover {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Feb-25 03:20 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Just dropping in to say thank you to OOG. Im moving on from PRUN but if anyone deserves a thanks for helping me when I first joined its you guys. Good luck with your future endeavours {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘‹ (12) [03-Feb-25 03:21 PM] superbadsounds#0000 @shrewdsun_88540 I'll miss you, man. Thanks for enabling my speed run! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-25 03:22 PM] shrewdsun_88540#0000 Speedrunning the game is what i enjoyed the most, good luck with your run! [03-Feb-25 03:33 PM] tyrandia#0000 See ya Shrewd! Nice to know you. {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-25 03:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Good luck out there! Thanks for joining us! {Reactions} โค๏ธ [03-Feb-25 06:55 PM] exeler#0000 Thanks for the time and the trades! [03-Feb-25 07:20 PM] zipatsu#0000 See ya around! May your next venture be prosperous! โœŒ๏ธ [03-Feb-25 08:45 PM] tuffyless#0000 Thank you for all the Afab Trades over CX! Was always an adrenaline rush. ๐Ÿ™ [04-Feb-25 04:22 AM] martin1194#0000 @archielvahr Can we make some sentance like this and intro ourselves to public??? But, I am not good at intro. :3 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1336280805520969738/image.png?ex=68149cfa&is=68134b7a&hm=eeb69f5092646765f49223ea188fbcad787428d57a327c4dfab8e5c45662a9d6& [04-Feb-25 07:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 I like to share the https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/joining/ web page {Embed} https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/joining/ Interested in Joining OOG? | OOG Capital Management Learn more about joining OOG, Antares premier corporation https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PVzxc9GhxHA48n_y0YIgFU5hKGLsMKiDSAfBsgkbZSk/https/oogcapitalmanagement.com/images/big-round-table-2-narrow.png [04-Feb-25 04:56 PM] martin1194#0000 (liquidated) {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1336470577111760917/image.png?ex=6814a4f8&is=68135378&hm=441f32cf61ac0742480bdf33b10d68e8f062101ebae258b1eb0383aaccb8bfa9& [05-Feb-25 08:51 AM] hernanduer#0000 Aratora base up, now just gotta wait for staffing [05-Feb-25 09:31 PM] martin1194#0000 um, {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1336901957058560092/image.png?ex=6814e539&is=681393b9&hm=c51c64a61747fc96c1541010f3914a9921dc521e776a045f8ec020c5cb34cf55& [05-Feb-25 09:31 PM] martin1194#0000 Why XDD [05-Feb-25 09:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 lol I dunno what that's about [05-Feb-25 09:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 ohh hex [05-Feb-25 09:32 PM] archielvahr#0000 yeah gotta keep the price up there [05-Feb-25 09:33 PM] martin1194#0000 I was think, is that have demand in CX, why the price is 1000 at bid. And, after I check detail. ummmmmm XD [06-Feb-25 08:11 AM] martin1194#0000 Is there anyone know, contracts' name only visible to sender or both of sender&receiver? [06-Feb-25 10:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ohh maybe the name is blank? [06-Feb-25 10:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 I just looked at a bunch of mine [06-Feb-25 10:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-02-06_10-27-40.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-02-06_10-27-40.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wNagdoPKb1V4rZh2ucg0FfiOUOHpkweOB0ao7c-VT4U/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-02-06_10-27-40.png [06-Feb-25 10:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 I can read the preamble but the name is blank [07-Feb-25 03:05 PM] shokanshi#0000 Looking at contracts I've got I can see the name given but only before it's archived/partially completed/completed. [07-Feb-25 03:06 PM] shokanshi#0000 The second its out of that information box that pops out on the right, it seems to just becomes --- [07-Feb-25 03:08 PM] shokanshi#0000 So this long active loan contract that is forever ticking still has its name. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1337530465858621561/image.png?ex=68148b91&is=68133a11&hm=36813d4b41f44d85418024fcecf1d74822158fbff737c703955ed49a632d0fbf& [07-Feb-25 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 New HCB ship is under construction! Havenโ€™t been this excited about a new ship since my first one ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (2) [10-Feb-25 07:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 Some proposed changes: [10-Feb-25 07:30 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1338502469034184725/image.png?ex=6814c910&is=68137790&hm=93f088f51d1d5512a3a2a383e85d469207078c77c12fcece0d069ecc9d242573& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [10-Feb-25 07:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 I will do a writeup to offer some suggestions that specifically help the HOS and SDP [10-Feb-25 08:34 AM] roche3950#0000 Did somebody say HOS [10-Feb-25 09:00 AM] melon164#0000 Is popi cost for low tier workers actually unbalanced? I wasnโ€™t aware of it, but Iโ€™m not very on the pulse of governor issues [10-Feb-25 09:00 AM] melon164#0000 If theyโ€™re going to make popi cheaper, they should make programs more expensive, imo [10-Feb-25 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 I wouldn't have imagined it was that much of a problem. The biggest issue seemed to be there wasn't much balance between the satisfaction offered by certain buildings or pop goods. i.e. more expensive goods often aren't worth providing in favour of cheaper ones. [10-Feb-25 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 At least based upon my limited experience operating planets that mostly use PIO/SET. [10-Feb-25 09:28 AM] akyantor#0000 You generally can't go wrong with stuffing the buildings with OFF and upgrade them until you have enough statisfaction. You just ignore almost every other type of good. [10-Feb-25 09:33 AM] roche3950#0000 who knew staplers and sticky notes were the key to joy [10-Feb-25 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I am workign on a writeup now. I am not sure why they balanced the items they balanced [10-Feb-25 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1338550033234002034/image.png?ex=6814f55c&is=6813a3dc&hm=f7ca95a90e47f05ca0be0564e92f1b99ddcedf21bcbbd61a794958d31e83bb49& [10-Feb-25 10:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_bRfwKjtBRv.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_bRfwKjtBRv.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/bayO3ygMos6kAa33jtMbcXrHLUSILq52sfXoJdw8m6Q/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_bRfwKjtBRv.png [10-Feb-25 10:40 AM] archielvahr#0000 Red items were changed. (all made cheaper except for OFF in SST) [10-Feb-25 12:51 PM] allocater#0000 1-4 don't even address POPI-goods-balance, so you can tell them to scrap those and focus on 5, with better numbers provided by you ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Feb-25 01:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I started out writing a point by point thing and just skipped right to #5 [10-Feb-25 01:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/Discord_9mgr1FOBTt.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/Discord_9mgr1FOBTt.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/B449jP7kAETSpJxVypaiklNku3cbswAUmnWiVBT_Xs4/http/kortham.net/temp/Discord_9mgr1FOBTt.png {Reactions} โค๏ธ [10-Feb-25 01:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 I can add any other feedback from here [10-Feb-25 01:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 I feel like it should have been on the forum but they posted on the behind the scenes discord, which is fine too [10-Feb-25 09:09 PM] martin1194#0000 Is that Refined PMMG no need to load page about base to get base info? [10-Feb-25 09:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think the XIT BURN page in RPRUN loads all the bases itself [10-Feb-25 09:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 if that's what you are experiencing... [10-Feb-25 10:36 PM] martin1194#0000 yay. Then, I no need to make a lot of page for bases [10-Feb-25 11:58 PM] evov#0000 r.e. pop upkeep intervals. Why not make everything 7 days to match the pop timings? It would make fractional upkeeps on smaller planets far far far easier and more reliable. With 3 day/5day/10day etc - it gets really messy with respect to what % of the 7 day window pop was supplied for. For example, with the 10day cycles as it is, it's possible to 20-30% fill one of those buildings, have the first 2-3 days of the pop supply fall within one 7day pop window, then the next pop window gets 0% supply time. As it is, it's a pain in the ass to efficiently supply pop on smaller planets. Moving the supply window to be longer 7 days makes this a lot worse and almost impossible to supply small pops without massive waste. [11-Feb-25 12:03 AM] lancercaster#0000 Hmm considered getting into fuel refining but the market seems already saturated... [11-Feb-25 12:15 AM] bookliko#0000 hmmm, I would argue it needs more producers: on ANT & HOR CX its hugging close to MM. When I started playing the price was closer to 10/u. There are some whales storing SF on CX, but clearly not interested in selling, distorting the supply/demand ratio. [11-Feb-25 04:17 AM] shokanshi#0000 Fuel usage might go up with gateways. [11-Feb-25 04:18 AM] shokanshi#0000 So maybe get in early [11-Feb-25 06:06 AM] roche3950#0000 woooooo! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1338843494378242068/image0.jpg?ex=6814b52b&is=681363ab&hm=4231d4b50dd872dd38c5cf6624e608e70a78dea88c1f2587f2a5390f2855b8d0& {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (6) [11-Feb-25 11:57 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/944644507050323968/1338638000959127593 [11-Feb-25 07:41 PM] sidepipe#0000 love this ship ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1339048775792070769/image.png?ex=6814cb9a&is=68137a1a&hm=5298251e7c60900925c92e9483c71af6e1dbab5954e6a7affdc564ba9e28dacd& {Reactions} โค๏ธ ๐Ÿš‚ (2) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [11-Feb-25 08:37 PM] shokanshi#0000 so beautiful.... [13-Feb-25 10:33 AM] roche3950#0000 Iโ€™m going to have a very large construction project, ostensibly sometime next week. Let me know if youโ€™d like to take part in supplying it. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1339635643021791365/image0.jpg?ex=6814f3ea&is=6813a26a&hm=b1503ca45bca431c50961f9ac091c0f4e2c56f5d260beb1e6766c6ad73074d61& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) [13-Feb-25 02:54 PM] shokanshi#0000 That is indeed a large project [13-Feb-25 02:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 I might be able to hook you up with some INS and Lfabs. Iโ€™m winding down my production of both, but Iโ€™ve got some leftover in stock [13-Feb-25 02:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 Any hints as to where this project is going? ๐Ÿ™‚ [13-Feb-25 02:59 PM] roche3950#0000 company ticker ;) [13-Feb-25 02:59 PM] roche3950#0000 Idea is to become #1 ADR and SDR producer gamewide. I solved for it in 19 permits [13-Feb-25 03:00 PM] roche3950#0000 This should crack ADR by something like a factor of 10+ [13-Feb-25 03:01 PM] bookliko#0000 https://tenor.com/view/cruftbox-but-why-gif-1290062710361139636 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/cruftbox-but-why-gif-1290062710361139636 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SGm4ShDIBOqm3epr4HtCjuYNfDt9NEjEDQgbDZb8mzM/https/media.tenor.com/Eec5MzUNqbQAAAAe/cruftbox-but-why.png [13-Feb-25 03:01 PM] roche3950#0000 fitting :laughshiba: [13-Feb-25 03:02 PM] roche3950#0000 Theyโ€™re MM goods, itโ€™s an interesting challenge, and RPer till I die [13-Feb-25 03:03 PM] bookliko#0000 I know I know, the whole universe knows ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [13-Feb-25 03:03 PM] bookliko#0000 love the dedication [13-Feb-25 03:04 PM] roche3950#0000 also may or may not be planning for a new medical-themed MM good to be added to the game (extremely tentative) [13-Feb-25 03:04 PM] bookliko#0000 I was stocking up HSE for the gateways, but will make a gracious contribution to your glorious looney [13-Feb-25 05:43 PM] zipatsu#0000 I can cover the BSE for 1k/u on ANT โœŒ๏ธ [13-Feb-25 08:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can do all your BTA and TRU rn and a sizable chunk of the BFABs and LFABs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [13-Feb-25 09:16 PM] roche3950#0000 Appreciate the note but I need to get loan issuance done first [13-Feb-25 09:16 PM] roche3950#0000 which means I need to talk to governors [14-Feb-25 07:05 AM] martin1194#0000 wooooo {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1339945710174470144/image.png?ex=6814c330&is=681371b0&hm=52271154ce60a3412b57c634d75e8dd6c3f4ffb7316c0c72d6ef83ef33489473& [14-Feb-25 07:06 AM] martin1194#0000 Archiel name appear on Millways governor [14-Feb-25 09:12 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think everyone uses it ๐Ÿ˜… [18-Feb-25 07:28 PM] martin1194#0000 I need some advice here. [18-Feb-25 07:28 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1341582144056590467/image.png?ex=6814c87c&is=681376fc&hm=9742d81385338f264cbb493ea880c622926b430b3d48a6c2d99d79e2a86710dc& [18-Feb-25 07:29 PM] martin1194#0000 I am already pass the motion but why University still 0 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1341582295932342335/image.png?ex=6814c8a0&is=68137720&hm=865c0c816fc6f4f1acaf2b8b509830edb39f03e901c1a73466ea14c205528b46& [18-Feb-25 07:29 PM] martin1194#0000 ZV-194b need university for keep ENG and TECH [18-Feb-25 07:35 PM] tuffyless#0000 it'll be a 1 next POPR [18-Feb-25 08:24 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yup [18-Feb-25 11:23 PM] martin1194#0000 oh. I see. Thanks [24-Feb-25 01:53 AM] akyantor#0000 I think selling time for in game goods is against the T&Cs. [24-Feb-25 02:31 AM] timomurbekov#0000 {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Feb-25 02:31 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Molps answer [24-Feb-25 07:07 AM] melon164#0000 Molp has made clear (https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pro-license-trading-permitted/6888/3) that this is not permitted. {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pro-license-trading-permitted/6888/3 PRO license trading: permitted? Since we received many questions regarding the PRO license gifting, Iโ€™ll try to clarify this here. No, this is not permitted. The ToS ($3.7) clearly states that it is not allowed to pay with real world currency for any in-game materials, items, and so on. This includes the PRO license gifts. This is what most inquiries were about. Given the ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [24-Feb-25 07:07 AM] melon164#0000 Which kind of makes me wonder what the point of the feature was, but ๐Ÿคท [24-Feb-25 07:08 AM] melon164#0000 I _would_ be in the market for acquiring a single day of PRO in the near future, with which I can build a couple new ships, HQ upgrades and governorships for gateway-related projects. But now it seems to be a market in which I have nothing to trade with but goodwill ๐Ÿ˜• [24-Feb-25 07:33 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Can one gift the PRO time back? One could store time while inactive {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ (2) [24-Feb-25 08:00 AM] pagy1234#0000 oh thats actually smart [24-Feb-25 08:33 AM] tyrandia#0000 melon, have you used a key from someone yet? [24-Feb-25 08:33 AM] tyrandia#0000 I'd be happy to supply you one. [24-Feb-25 08:36 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Can one gift time from a key? [24-Feb-25 08:36 AM] tyrandia#0000 Yeah, you get timecodes [24-Feb-25 08:36 AM] tyrandia#0000 With the Star packages and stuff. [24-Feb-25 08:37 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I mean, if you give someone a key, they get PRO time, then they can gift it to someone else [24-Feb-25 08:37 AM] tyrandia#0000 I don't think it works like that? [24-Feb-25 08:37 AM] tyrandia#0000 The keys are single use. [24-Feb-25 08:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 you gift a key, the receiver gifts days of PRO license [24-Feb-25 08:38 AM] tyrandia#0000 Oh. Maybe. Hmm. [24-Feb-25 08:39 AM] tyrandia#0000 That's so... confusing the system they made. [24-Feb-25 08:43 AM] pagy1234#0000 I feel like if someone spends some time brainstorming all the possibilities of sharing days around, it could be massively abused [24-Feb-25 08:43 AM] pagy1234#0000 like 1 person activates a key and shares days to all sorts of random people who each need only 1 day to do stuff [24-Feb-25 09:37 AM] akyantor#0000 It's possible, but no doubt they'd have the data to see if someone was doing that... wouldn't be hard to spot [24-Feb-25 09:37 AM] akyantor#0000 I'd suspect it would be considered not in the spirit of the intended use of the gifting feature [24-Feb-25 09:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1343610666967105547/image.png?ex=6814e972&is=681397f2&hm=6d6d646fcee42805e3336cb4766eccb703d6d56f025c2c4bcdd02021033759dc& [24-Feb-25 09:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 47/d from one base ๐Ÿฅฒ [24-Feb-25 09:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 probably gonna need more bases [24-Feb-25 09:51 AM] marat_sh#0000 they opened the floodgates with that change, but to be fair it's not a big deal. I think everyone should have PRO and developers need extra $ [24-Feb-25 09:51 AM] marat_sh#0000 so win - win [24-Feb-25 09:58 AM] allocater#0000 oh wait there is a new feature? I thought it's about the 1-month-gift-code [24-Feb-25 09:59 AM] archielvahr#0000 I ended up with extra time cause I bought a year when they had the last sale, so if you line up a bunch of ships, let me know! [24-Feb-25 10:00 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it's the new `gift` command. Different setup from the old keys, but sort of similar in some of the implementation details (reverts to free if you didn't already have basic, etc) [24-Feb-25 10:01 AM] allocater#0000 I am so confused, they made a 180. First it was ok > One could argue that trading in-game materials for real world currency has been possible before, the license gifts are just another item. then it was a grey-area: > Given the ToS, this seems like a grey area. then they outlaw it: > it is not permitted to exchange PRO license gifts for in-game valuables (money, materials, โ€ฆ). [24-Feb-25 10:02 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think when posting rules.. you shouldn't do the "thinking out loud" thing {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [24-Feb-25 10:03 AM] akyantor#0000 Agreed. Would have been smart to have been clear from the off. [24-Feb-25 10:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think generally everyone follows all the rules of the game so they don't have to be too strict about any of it. Unlike other MMOs where they are constantly banning huge waves of players. [24-Feb-25 10:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 Because I am constantly giving out ADI grants and getting 1 AIC contracts for giant stacks of materials, it's impossible to separate out any of my transactions. So I imagine they would only go after very egregious rulebreakers [24-Feb-25 10:06 AM] allocater#0000 it's unenforcable. So I don't understand why they a) add such a feature, and then b) restrict it in unenforcable ways. [24-Feb-25 10:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 And I think the only people who would really benefit (in an egregious and obvious way) would be the new player selling a month and suddenly getting 10m AIC or some sort of mega-whale [24-Feb-25 10:07 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think in germany people enjoy following rules so there doesn't need to be an enforcement mechanism ๐Ÿ˜„ [24-Feb-25 10:07 AM] allocater#0000 Anyway, so I as a basic player can now collect ship components and then with 1 gifted day, upgrade my entire fleet? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [24-Feb-25 10:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 3 day minimum, but yep [24-Feb-25 10:08 AM] archielvahr#0000 Lemme know when you have a bunch of new stuff stockpiled and want 3 days ๐Ÿ˜† {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [24-Feb-25 10:12 AM] bookliko#0000 Can one fly more than 2 ships on "basic"? {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘Ž [24-Feb-25 10:12 AM] pagy1234#0000 I feel like the dev team lost alot of money by releasing this feature... [24-Feb-25 10:12 AM] mrsmith33#0000 no [24-Feb-25 10:12 AM] pagy1234#0000 what? [24-Feb-25 10:13 AM] pagy1234#0000 even on basic its just 2? [24-Feb-25 10:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 I guess money flow to developers could raise up the speed of implementing new features, but sure there shouldn't be imbalance between real money influence on player growth and newcomers starts possibilities. The price for one day could be reasonable, not a million AIC for month, maybe 10.000 per day to prevent quick grow of giving. But anyway I couldn't grant even a day due to my lifetime subscription ๐Ÿ˜… [24-Feb-25 10:31 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I hope they tested how it works with the lifetime subs, haha [24-Feb-25 11:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 I think itโ€™s gonna give them a small bust to revenue [24-Feb-25 11:39 AM] marat_sh#0000 As long as people donโ€™t complain that people trade money or items for PRO [24-Feb-25 11:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 The rules will not be enforced [24-Feb-25 11:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 As soon as it becomes a problem we will see warning or suspension [24-Feb-25 11:45 AM] marat_sh#0000 I am fine with new players getting a boost This is not a type of game to gatekeep the progress [24-Feb-25 01:29 PM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/in-time-in-time-movie-time-left-gif-2439399792788471693 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/in-time-in-time-movie-time-left-gif-2439399792788471693 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kl5Ka469Idg_CWZEeq6cka00vVAizrjsC6q-zJjRFCo/https/media.tenor.com/Idp9L-JRf40AAAAe/in-time-in-time-movie.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿคฃ [25-Feb-25 06:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 how the hell is xepiov so fast at the elections ?? [25-Feb-25 06:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 harmonia elections ended 28 minutes ago and hes already running for the next one [25-Feb-25 06:43 AM] katinga#0000 I've expressed doubts before that he's even human. He may be a bot. He never talks in any chat. He's not in any Discords related to the game. [25-Feb-25 06:44 AM] katinga#0000 he runs immediately after an election is over [25-Feb-25 06:45 AM] pagy1234#0000 he might just be a player thats doesnt speak english, but it is definitely plausible to say he has a bot running for the election things [25-Feb-25 06:45 AM] katinga#0000 and he's everywhere [25-Feb-25 06:47 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah, but I feel as though it would be pretty hard to get a bot to effectively do all things in the game, at least expanding new bases and planets would need some amount of planning for sure. [25-Feb-25 06:47 AM] bookliko#0000 I had exactly the same taught when seeing him 16 min after election. But hey, I was also there to click the notification. Maybe I am somewhat of a bot as wel ๐Ÿ˜† [25-Feb-25 06:48 AM] katinga#0000 we humans do it almost as a reflex cuz we see him there already :p [25-Feb-25 06:50 AM] pagy1234#0000 tbf he could also just be some retired bloke with his computer open all day, so he would see the pings instantly [25-Feb-25 06:50 AM] katinga#0000 someone get him a cat then! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) ๐Ÿˆ [25-Feb-25 10:20 PM] exeler#0000 The margins for error in this game are so high, you wouldn't need to make it do very well. Making a bot for this game would be relatively easy I think. At least compared to the effort some of y'all put into your spreadsheets and other tools, a halfway decent bot would be simple by comparison. If screeps bots can be sophisticated (and they are, that's the point of the game), then this game is definitely doable. [25-Feb-25 10:28 PM] pagy1234#0000 hmm, yeah could also just be a bot then [25-Feb-25 10:28 PM] pagy1234#0000 we will never know tho [27-Feb-25 07:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 how are there so much more DW supply recently? [27-Feb-25 07:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 H2O prices are super high so I would have expected that people would stop supplying, not supply more lmao [27-Feb-25 07:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 I legit cant get a single sale recently since my prices keep getting undercut so fast [27-Feb-25 07:51 AM] zipatsu#0000 Private suppliers most likely, I know there's at least a few people going around that are / were leasing permits from players to supply them with H2O โœŒ๏ธ [27-Feb-25 07:53 AM] zipatsu#0000 Also possible that they're still working through H2O they bought for a lower amount so they've got more room to lower the price while still profiting. [27-Feb-25 08:18 AM] pagy1234#0000 Makes sense, still suprised that the playerbase is that resilient, would have though that some people would just leave the market [27-Feb-25 01:36 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think for DW, since the inputs are so simple, most people dedicated to DW production also make their own H2O. And they are probably doing a mix of RATs and DW, and using the H2O at FRMs. And DW is great profit at any price above 90, imo. [27-Feb-25 01:37 PM] archielvahr#0000 But if you are doing less than 20k DW at a time on the CX, it can all move quite quickly [27-Feb-25 02:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 Looks like there is a 15% off code for pro license time for the next week `SPRING25` [27-Feb-25 02:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 It took me a second to realize that the 25 in SPRING25 means 2025 and not 25% off ๐Ÿ˜… [27-Feb-25 02:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Lmao [27-Feb-25 02:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Welcome to 2025 [28-Feb-25 01:20 AM] pagy1234#0000 bleh, bought my license just a bit too early [28-Feb-25 07:38 AM] sidepipe#0000 Now is the perfect time to buy _more_ license ๐Ÿ˜„ [28-Feb-25 07:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m considering it myself but I think I still have like 150 days [28-Feb-25 07:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have 432 days atm, probably will wait for the next sale [28-Feb-25 07:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 yo trust me, you do not need more right now ๐Ÿ˜ญ [28-Feb-25 07:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 432 days [28-Feb-25 07:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 thats insane [28-Feb-25 07:41 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yes you do - you need guaranteed PRO until at least 2030 [28-Feb-25 07:41 AM] sidepipe#0000 They might have gateways out by then ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜† (2) [28-Feb-25 07:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 hahah [28-Feb-25 07:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 but seriously [28-Feb-25 07:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 is there any expected time frame for that? [28-Feb-25 07:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 like mid of this year or smt? [28-Feb-25 07:42 AM] sidepipe#0000 Not that I know of - timelines for the game are usually just โ€œwhen itโ€™s readyโ€ [28-Feb-25 07:43 AM] sidepipe#0000 But Iโ€™ve been pleasantly surprised by the new features theyโ€™ve added recently. Seems like for the first year I played nothing changed, and now all the things are starting to happen [28-Feb-25 07:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 oh thats pretty cool [28-Feb-25 07:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 opposite for me lol [28-Feb-25 07:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 so much has happened even though i havent been here that long [28-Feb-25 07:46 AM] sidepipe#0000 You picked a good time to join ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [28-Feb-25 07:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 lol [28-Feb-25 07:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 got lucky [28-Feb-25 07:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 scrolling steam free games and just stumbled across this [28-Feb-25 10:19 AM] marat_sh#0000 Same, that's how I found this game. Got in recommendation tab on steam [28-Feb-25 10:38 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I found some funny video about the game (probably on reddit) [28-Feb-25 10:42 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think gateways were taking too long so they did some QoL stuff. it's nice to see them knock those features out quickly [28-Feb-25 10:42 AM] .urpalhal#0000 YouTuber did some ads about the game [01-Mar-25 08:22 PM] shokanshi#0000 boys im finally seeing the end of my crippling flu [01-Mar-25 08:22 PM] shokanshi#0000 Get to rot my brain with spreadsheets now {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [01-Mar-25 08:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 A new and much better kind of disease imo ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [02-Mar-25 09:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 After 228 days. I finally reached my shipping capacity. Gonna need a 3rd WCB ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (2) [02-Mar-25 09:04 AM] marat_sh#0000 I don't like how Bober is 2nd in my equity chart ๐Ÿ’€ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1345773766554161162/image.png?ex=6814defd&is=68138d7d&hm=d58f1b6a85b8a2ab71ab940f168b01c6789c86f71177dbe4c3bb037628c61ef6& [02-Mar-25 09:05 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1345773985387909180/image.png?ex=6814df31&is=68138db1&hm=951b4f82fc97bcf7c25e1b15ae52abe578c31ef0f7edad6854e9867b3b222fbc& [02-Mar-25 10:11 AM] sidepipe#0000 Makes sense though - DDT is good money right now ๐Ÿ˜„ [02-Mar-25 10:39 AM] archielvahr#0000 I have a lot of LCBs for sale! I can probably put together a WCB though. I would have to check stocks [02-Mar-25 10:40 AM] akyantor#0000 For what it's worth, I have a WCB unit on hand {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ [02-Mar-25 11:02 AM] marat_sh#0000 How much would something like this cost? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1345803563527442525/image.png?ex=6814fabd&is=6813a93d&hm=719c895ce9e6d0f119344df4d94f521e8aef3ac6e2b6a0e2e58a934b57a5afaf& [02-Mar-25 11:03 AM] marat_sh#0000 I have ~6mil to spare [02-Mar-25 11:16 AM] akyantor#0000 If you're buying the parts individually, then you can get an idea from this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ElN228qfp6zBqv6srr_sXLwlicnvUcvJqCcA8dPWH-s/edit?gid=2002263833#gid=2002263833 [02-Mar-25 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 That's what I'd normally use to price up before posting a project in #orders-ships [02-Mar-25 11:17 AM] akyantor#0000 I've built my last 2-3 ships piecemeal that way, with the occasionally purchase from the market if not filled within the corp [02-Mar-25 11:41 AM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, probably the best doing it that way ๐Ÿ‘ [03-Mar-25 12:11 AM] evov#0000 Not exactly the same as what you're looking for, the ones I make have bigger fuel tanks and juicier FTL engine, but I have plenty of these available if needed. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1346002138668466176/image.png?ex=68150aed&is=6813b96d&hm=d170c5b0ba201a84c3eb3c9c27258ac5ee55f09dd86afcaf5b67938290902c0b& [03-Mar-25 08:11 AM] martin1194#0000 :Think2: White name hard to read for me ๐Ÿคฃ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1346122737734647818/Screenshot_20250303_221037_Discord.jpg?ex=6814d27e&is=681380fe&hm=80cff5067e8162bad6831f43846734d5544630eeecb4ef010933f62a49763de2& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [03-Mar-25 08:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 Looking at the economic reports, it looks like MMs are starting to pull currency out of the game. MM balance paid ~500M for AIC with 35M paid to MM for RATs (if Iโ€™m reading it right) [03-Mar-25 08:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ll see if I can compare the monthly change in data core balances vs bfab / MM balances later. Might be interesting to see how those compare [03-Mar-25 09:03 AM] sidepipe#0000 โ€ฆI just realized thatโ€™s what the currency supply graph at the very top is for ๐Ÿ˜… [03-Mar-25 09:40 AM] marat_sh#0000 https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vLazDj9EnXVXlCPM5W3vfiXWDwShHdfD65k0ssolP6w/https/media.tenor.com/XEiOi9xw07cAAAAe/flashbang.png [03-Mar-25 10:47 AM] marat_sh#0000 Looking at the report I like that ship parts and specifically shields look more alive [03-Mar-25 06:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 lol I wonder why everyone hates light mode [03-Mar-25 06:32 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™m not Bane [04-Mar-25 10:40 AM] pagy1234#0000 Am I allowed to claim that 500k joining bonus in #membership-perks ? [04-Mar-25 11:15 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yes, send me a contact for it ๐Ÿ™‚ [04-Mar-25 11:17 AM] pagy1234#0000 nice, thanks [04-Mar-25 11:19 AM] pagy1234#0000 sent the cont :D [04-Mar-25 12:54 PM] bookliko#0000 https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-gif-21319330 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-gif-21319330 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Dp_UcfFoOb-lnvEl01FjrSVmRL4EQmLYzCyey7GgKrU/https/media.tenor.com/zPnR2HJ_m8wAAAAe/wait-what.png [04-Mar-25 01:02 PM] bookliko#0000 Either my memory is completely busted, or I never claimed this one. It would explains why @sidepipe is so generous with buying my ship ๐Ÿคฃ . [04-Mar-25 01:03 PM] sidepipe#0000 You can send for the 500k also ๐Ÿ˜ [04-Mar-25 01:07 PM] bookliko#0000 No No, never needed it, still do not need it. I am here to cooperate/contribute. [04-Mar-25 01:27 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it's pretty haphazard ๐Ÿ˜… [04-Mar-25 01:47 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, think it's a relatively "new" thing. [05-Mar-25 03:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 @pagy1234 how much of your base is populated by workers on Halcyon? [05-Mar-25 03:30 PM] .urpalhal#0000 like this stuff here {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1346958070630318160/image.png?ex=681490b5&is=68133f35&hm=8b3b991dfe4b67305e702ea0e3fc536b2defb2abd47fdcfb69ece9978e54c938& [05-Mar-25 05:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 I accidentally accepted this dumb contract ๐Ÿ˜ญ [05-Mar-25 05:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1346981886672633916/image.png?ex=6814a6e3&is=68135563&hm=d6c573cc9a32aba2da410c2efdc65ff2d745630d79a70f63f8e547ce1d7b262b& [05-Mar-25 05:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Whoops [05-Mar-25 05:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Maybe someone has some nuts in system [05-Mar-25 05:18 PM] pagy1234#0000 Required is 600, current is 244, capacity is 600 {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [05-Mar-25 05:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Number in parentheses? [05-Mar-25 05:19 PM] pagy1234#0000 44 [05-Mar-25 05:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can run a immigration program to get 500 more PIO but I really think youโ€™ll be fine by next POPr [05-Mar-25 05:21 PM] pagy1234#0000 Alr๐Ÿ‘ , will it just fill any capacity i need? [05-Mar-25 05:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah by putting the base down you created open jobs and that will attract pop to fill those openings [05-Mar-25 05:21 PM] pagy1234#0000 Also btw, as soon as my ship arrives im gonna need 900/244(44)/900 [05-Mar-25 05:21 PM] pagy1234#0000 Nice [05-Mar-25 05:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 When does your ship come? [05-Mar-25 05:24 PM] pagy1234#0000 14 min [05-Mar-25 05:24 PM] .urpalhal#0000 lol ok sooner than I thought [05-Mar-25 05:25 PM] pagy1234#0000 Yeah same, i thought i had a couple hours to go stil [05-Mar-25 05:25 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I know the next POPR is really soon [05-Mar-25 05:41 PM] pagy1234#0000 Yeah, 24h or smt like that [07-Mar-25 07:37 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone making RATs for sale? [07-Mar-25 07:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 I am [07-Mar-25 07:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 about 600/d [07-Mar-25 07:50 AM] mrsmith33#0000 what price? I may buy it instead of making another RAT base, and use permit for something else (H?) [07-Mar-25 08:35 AM] pagy1234#0000 what kind of price you looking for ? [07-Mar-25 08:36 AM] pagy1234#0000 I can do 155 lowest [07-Mar-25 08:37 AM] mrsmith33#0000 yea, I can buy that [07-Mar-25 08:39 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Are you selling on CX? [07-Mar-25 08:39 AM] pagy1234#0000 usually yes [07-Mar-25 08:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Is 5k RATs per contract convenient? [07-Mar-25 08:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 can do 2.5K RAT for 400k every 4ish days {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Mar-25 08:49 AM] pagy1234#0000 nice, il let you know when I have the first amount ready [07-Mar-25 09:32 AM] pagy1234#0000 yo, for the next cont can you round it up to 400k? i know with 155/u its 387.5k but I could use the extra cash since you absorb all moy production {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Mar-25 09:37 AM] pagy1234#0000 Thanks :D [07-Mar-25 10:45 AM] tyrandia#0000 @allocater Hey, can I get the Govener role since I technically govern Heph? Hehe. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Mar-25 10:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 I got it figured out! [07-Mar-25 10:48 AM] tyrandia#0000 Thanks! [09-Mar-25 04:01 AM] martin1194#0000 How xepiov can get vote, he isn't in any Corp. [09-Mar-25 04:02 AM] bookliko#0000 What planet? [09-Mar-25 04:04 AM] martin1194#0000 Nike have 4 vote. [09-Mar-25 04:04 AM] martin1194#0000 But he didn't get enough vote to join the gover. [09-Mar-25 04:04 AM] martin1194#0000 I just can't understand [09-Mar-25 04:06 AM] bookliko#0000 Best hypothesis I have: he is the only Antares faction candidate [09-Mar-25 04:08 AM] bookliko#0000 Actually, not the only one ๐Ÿ˜… I see caskman at 0 votes. Did he join in late? [09-Mar-25 06:52 AM] martin1194#0000 Dunno. I didn't check that frequently. [09-Mar-25 03:05 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Some plots have no name ๐Ÿค” {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1348386293226274936/image.png?ex=68152598&is=6813d418&hm=e490556d2efc611fa5aae78f3a8d35b579a822bf4769f9bd0ee223ce56fe4926& [09-Mar-25 06:13 PM] melon164#0000 I wasnโ€™t aware they ever had names [09-Mar-25 06:25 PM] roche3950#0000 Been on the planet On a plot with no nameโ€ฆ {Reactions} ๐Ÿด [09-Mar-25 06:26 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Wait does that mean I can name my plots? [10-Mar-25 02:57 AM] shokanshi#0000 I wish we could name them.. [10-Mar-25 11:06 AM] archielvahr#0000 I gave up trying to think of ship names after a while. I don't think I could manage naming plots ๐Ÿคฃ [10-Mar-25 11:24 AM] mrsmith33#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1348692909658214410/image.png?ex=6814f1a7&is=6813a027&hm=e9c6a065038a825e912452c7816691febd51bfd55193835f074520ff0e774021& [10-Mar-25 12:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I am hitting the limit of what I can name my ships [10-Mar-25 12:30 PM] sidepipe#0000 I ran out of names a long time ago, but I just outsource naming to the ADI server now ๐Ÿ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1348709538550911029/image.png?ex=68150123&is=6813afa3&hm=89045dd4e4aacad237c3aa359f2388a8c74597031b18665fb0c2b2d3211d678a& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’€ (2) [10-Mar-25 12:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 oof that 48% condition ๐Ÿ˜† [10-Mar-25 12:59 PM] katinga#0000 I started a Pern theme with my ships, except for my Cerritos. [10-Mar-25 01:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s my STL ship in Thalassa - I should probably repair it sometime [10-Mar-25 03:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 Whaaat, this thing uses up plots?? [10-Mar-25 03:47 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_K6rf7BPaNL.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_K6rf7BPaNL.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/n1lcI-7O20zyYqs8tsnNX8cs2EucAbig4iy9sX6xmJg/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_K6rf7BPaNL.png [10-Mar-25 03:50 PM] mrsmith33#0000 all infra uses plots [10-Mar-25 03:51 PM] archielvahr#0000 Kinda funny to use up plots on a corp item. I guess you could use up a lot of plots if you cycled through corps. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [10-Mar-25 06:50 PM] marat_sh#0000 after many moons... I finally have a base on Nike ๐ŸŽ‰ {Reactions} ๐ŸŽ‰ (4) [11-Mar-25 01:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 and it's LST extraction as well ๐Ÿ˜… [11-Mar-25 01:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1348905464460611614/image.png?ex=68150edc&is=6813bd5c&hm=73a8767cf3c73ee54d770ce5abc2709ddc63a09c4659745ca207f02cb53178b0& {Reactions} DancieBoi [11-Mar-25 08:24 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Wonderful [11-Mar-25 08:25 AM] .urpalhal#0000 There is never enough LST really [11-Mar-25 08:26 AM] marat_sh#0000 I still remember the time when LST was 80/u when I started ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [11-Mar-25 08:26 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah like what happened [11-Mar-25 08:28 AM] .urpalhal#0000 200/u :cat_sad: [14-Mar-25 08:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 If anyone's interested in a new FP base on SE-052a, let me know! I'm working on building up PIO and can run immigration if someone decides to drop a base [15-Mar-25 03:51 AM] martin1194#0000 Anyone is buying FIM from CX for workforce and please let me know. [16-Mar-25 03:51 AM] akyantor#0000 I'm buying around 40 a day. [16-Mar-25 03:52 AM] martin1194#0000 Do you wanna do a weekly contract? It will lower price than CX. [16-Mar-25 03:56 AM] akyantor#0000 Sure, happy to do that if you want some predicability. I'm mostly buying at CX ask at the moment. [16-Mar-25 05:44 AM] martin1194#0000 2400@1 and I will send u weekly contract about 280FIM per week. [16-Mar-25 05:44 AM] martin1194#0000 Is that good for you? [16-Mar-25 05:44 AM] akyantor#0000 Works for me [16-Mar-25 05:45 AM] martin1194#0000 Great. Please let me know if the consumtion increase or decrease in the future. [16-Mar-25 05:45 AM] akyantor#0000 will do [19-Mar-25 03:33 PM] katinga#0000 Hey, all. My work and YT channel are both keeping me pretty busy. If you need something, PM or @ me. I'm still playing, just not as diligently {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) โœŒ๏ธ (2) [19-Mar-25 05:24 PM] .urpalhal#0000 YT channel! [19-Mar-25 05:24 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Wow [19-Mar-25 07:35 PM] lax9552#0000 GL on all. [20-Mar-25 08:37 AM] zipatsu#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1352274940610478172/image.png?ex=6814caad&is=6813792d&hm=f3cdad0ffe4c395da858f97204445354b26373cdb362212f074822ec1ae63c38& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [20-Mar-25 08:37 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-friday-gif-12932795 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-friday-gif-12932795 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/4-k2h53uuxzg3rgpPB7BQl2NHL8FP14uBpJFVVuSFwQ/https/media.tenor.com/cJpORAtJ1YQAAAAe/its-happening-friday.png [20-Mar-25 08:41 AM] sidepipe#0000 that's about how I felt when molp undercut my sell order for DDT at Benten ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜„ [20-Mar-25 08:44 AM] zipatsu#0000 's gotta be an experience for sure to be undercut by the developer of the game haha [20-Mar-25 08:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Does anyone make STL and or RG and have excess to sell? [20-Mar-25 08:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I want to buy like 300 STL and 2300 RG ๐Ÿ‘€ [20-Mar-25 08:09 PM] .urpalhal#0000 But I figured I would support yโ€™allโ€™s before I support the CX randos [20-Mar-25 11:17 PM] archielvahr#0000 sadly those are both things I am usually short on ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [21-Mar-25 12:24 AM] bookliko#0000 Have 80 spare STL {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [21-Mar-25 12:37 AM] superbadsounds#0000 I will have roughly 1k RG at ANT in a few days you're welcome to @.urpalhal {Reactions} DancieBoi [21-Mar-25 01:25 AM] .urpalhal#0000 perfect I will put in some orders [21-Mar-25 11:31 AM] allocater#0000 I put 1881 RG on the CX for 1300/u {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [21-Mar-25 11:32 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Iโ€™ll buy it if itโ€™s still there [21-Mar-25 01:39 PM] mrsmith33#0000 My active O trading seems to bring the price down {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1352713368095559891/image.png?ex=6815117f&is=6813bfff&hm=2e4a852fc0de890a0a9947e87a7e1d1898d987471c05fc5c6e7df7d61ea6fc29& [22-Mar-25 07:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 I did not realize how long a production cycle for MTP is ๐Ÿ˜ญ [22-Mar-25 07:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 Seems like it takes nearly 10 days [22-Mar-25 07:50 AM] evov#0000 And the fact that the base that makes it, is likely the same base that uses it, means it's usually much more likely that the people who make it are the same who use it. Which means much lower traded volume available. [22-Mar-25 08:27 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, no kidding. Iโ€™d sell it to the CX myself if I wasnโ€™t just leaving money on the table by not making MEA out of it [22-Mar-25 08:28 AM] sidepipe#0000 But I guess that partially explains why the MEA prices have stayed so high. Even if a bunch of people jumped into making it, their first few MTP are probably only just now rolling off the line [22-Mar-25 08:33 AM] evov#0000 I'd be willing to bet there's a few people right now re-working their FP bases to squeeze in an IVP or two. [22-Mar-25 08:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 I very nearly turned my entire Norwick base into IVP, but Iโ€™m still attached to making FIM ๐Ÿ˜„ [22-Mar-25 08:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 But still, 70 MEA / day isnโ€™t bad. Once my IVP are done next week anyway ๐Ÿ˜… [22-Mar-25 08:55 AM] sidepipe#0000 OH - my base has 68/400 TEC. that's why it's so slow {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [22-Mar-25 11:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 It would be interesting to sell MTP and just have a base full of IVP. Interesting but probably not great. Heh [22-Mar-25 11:19 AM] archielvahr#0000 In theory, MTP is the hard part to make. So if you could control the price for it, you could capture most of the profit from MEA. Then random newbies could buy the MTP and make MEA since itโ€™s so easy. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ [22-Mar-25 11:26 AM] superbadsounds#0000 Before the MEA spike, it was almost impossible to get rid of MTP. I'll be curious to see how long demand can keep up if anyone does pursue supplying it. [22-Mar-25 07:32 PM] martin1194#0000 @lax9552 Opps, didn't noticed you joined us. : D [22-Mar-25 07:32 PM] martin1194#0000 Welcome. : P [22-Mar-25 07:33 PM] martin1194#0000 You can ping me in this server or DM me in discord. [22-Mar-25 08:07 PM] sidepipe#0000 I considered trying that with a full base or two of IVP - I assume there are definitely people out there just crushing out MEA with inputs from the CX. But it seems to easy to just tear down some FP and make IVP instead if CX prices get high enough to make it worth it [22-Mar-25 08:36 PM] lax9552#0000 Awesome! Do I owe you fuel? [22-Mar-25 08:36 PM] lax9552#0000 Just saw that contract [22-Mar-25 09:12 PM] martin1194#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1353189645470400564/image.png?ex=6814d2d0&is=68138150&hm=d7547f4292e59a66173c42fe26b60cc9485532a573341b67ee4440741ee213b5& [22-Mar-25 09:14 PM] martin1194#0000 You sent me the wrong contract and I filled it. [23-Mar-25 03:45 AM] allocater#0000 I can guarantee MTP demand of 300 per day, since I run MEA production without IVPs and MTP supply will be depleted in 2 week ๐Ÿ˜… IVPs should also make more money then FPs so we should push the CX price of MTP up. [23-Mar-25 04:35 AM] pagy1234#0000 are there really no sales for MTP at all on the CX? [23-Mar-25 04:36 AM] pagy1234#0000 from what I have heard, there are plenty of people setting up IVP's in their FP bases recently [23-Mar-25 04:36 AM] mrsmith33#0000 All my MTP got bought, I have 210 on Norwick if anyone wants [23-Mar-25 04:40 AM] pagy1234#0000 idk if I should put some IVP's into my FP base [23-Mar-25 04:40 AM] pagy1234#0000 ROI really sucks [23-Mar-25 04:40 AM] pagy1234#0000 32 days D: [23-Mar-25 04:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 just 2 IVPs and 2 HB3s is 1.1mil๐Ÿ˜ญ [23-Mar-25 05:12 AM] evov#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1353310377064136734/mtp_invest.jpg?ex=68149a81&is=68134901&hm=8fb1b86ec6d40a3a39818176aeaefba8cd0f0d0ebcb16df7e156f92c9838fa0f& [23-Mar-25 05:29 AM] martin1194#0000 water duck!? [23-Mar-25 05:29 AM] martin1194#0000 ..... [23-Mar-25 05:30 AM] martin1194#0000 Last I selling MTP is 2k ea. [23-Mar-25 05:30 AM] martin1194#0000 Now no one selling. :/ [23-Mar-25 05:31 AM] evov#0000 there's about 3-4k MTP still at MOR / BEN cx's. Little bit expensive though. [23-Mar-25 06:10 AM] pagy1234#0000 seems like a universe wide shortage [23-Mar-25 06:10 AM] pagy1234#0000 all the CXs are low on MTP [23-Mar-25 06:11 AM] pagy1234#0000 still wont make it too profitable for me tho [23-Mar-25 06:11 AM] pagy1234#0000 I cant do an investment with a 30 day roi [23-Mar-25 08:05 AM] martin1194#0000 Looking for HER 3400@1 [23-Mar-25 08:07 AM] martin1194#0000 : P Too much FIM contract XDDDD {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1353354579605192724/image.png?ex=6814c3ab&is=6813722b&hm=afb6188f5c8319fdf14419dd2f678ccb559279aa2807016d00fd675b5162a27b& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1353354579881754715/image.png?ex=6814c3ab&is=6813722b&hm=c857d7048fbcd6e010a4ed0db1c84573189cc339c73bcbf878f151b84e11cff0& [23-Mar-25 08:11 AM] martin1194#0000 forget it, even I buy from CX. The cost still can cover. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1353355570018648064/image.png?ex=6814c498&is=68137318&hm=06d69f01300c1a099ab368da64e6da87e7fc55d933d0b3eb7b2e86a042db1d95& [23-Mar-25 08:12 AM] martin1194#0000 Cuz I am selling to members at 2400@1 [23-Mar-25 03:33 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's beautiful ๐Ÿฅบ [25-Mar-25 08:48 AM] lax9552#0000 ISO in corp AEF [25-Mar-25 08:49 AM] lax9552#0000 INS and BSE [25-Mar-25 08:51 AM] .urpalhal#0000 How many AEF? [25-Mar-25 08:52 AM] .urpalhal#0000 And make an order using ./order in #orders and people will fill them :link_cool: [25-Mar-25 10:09 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Anyone need FEO on `ZV-194c`? I brought too much [25-Mar-25 10:14 AM] timomurbekov#0000 You can't unload it? [25-Mar-25 10:15 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Brought 2 ships instead of one [25-Mar-25 10:15 AM] timomurbekov#0000 I could rent a warehouse and store it for you, how much do you have? [25-Mar-25 10:16 AM] mrsmith33#0000 There is no warehouse atm [25-Mar-25 10:16 AM] timomurbekov#0000 Aaah, sad [25-Mar-25 10:17 AM] archielvahr#0000 Phobos will pay for a warehouse! If someone builds it [26-Mar-25 11:02 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I am moving my UPFs [26-Mar-25 11:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 so currently I have 12 UPFs [26-Mar-25 11:03 PM] .urpalhal#0000 and all 12 are in use right now lol {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [26-Mar-25 11:52 PM] evov#0000 That's a lot of UPF's. What do you make out of them? [26-Mar-25 11:53 PM] .urpalhal#0000 HABs, CQS/M/L and BR1/2 [26-Mar-25 11:54 PM] .urpalhal#0000 However once my old locationโ€™s queue finishes Iโ€™ll be back down to just 6 again [26-Mar-25 11:54 PM] .urpalhal#0000 And TCUs to make the crew quarters [27-Mar-25 01:11 AM] evov#0000 Makes sense. I was thinking... how the hell you're able to keep feeding 12x UPF's. The amount of input production for those items is kinda large. [27-Mar-25 01:15 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Heh yeah usually I can barely keep 6 consistently fed thatโ€™s why i found it funny that I had 12 going at once [27-Mar-25 10:20 PM] lax9552#0000 Anybody got consistent HE3 available? Long term would be useful. I produce mostly fuel. [28-Mar-25 11:40 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Done {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355220132535734374/image.png?ex=6814f59a&is=6813a41a&hm=36be425ce782db8b7fb6573e5fd5a5629aebc1cbb457400f8d3821b0a48ec2fd& [28-Mar-25 11:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 Do you have a price? I can calc it on market rates if you don't [28-Mar-25 11:42 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Did it out of my own production, that I don't sell [28-Mar-25 11:42 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Market price is fine {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [29-Mar-25 12:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 One of my older orders ๐Ÿ˜„ [29-Mar-25 12:13 AM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-03-29_00-13-11.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-03-29_00-13-11.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ov6vEfwKMLSYoDjc1n3jLYuU5YgD5U2RvrQgNIezFBM/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-03-29_00-13-11.png [29-Mar-25 12:14 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Thatโ€™s a lot of ones [30-Mar-25 02:15 PM] katinga#0000 I'm trying to send a ship from ANT to Nike and it says invalid. Anyone else have this issue? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355983744284102808/image.png?ex=681519c5&is=6813c845&hm=37d715f0f4b3857291742d0a51c2d5f16d5c8e5e85702ceda215f0f92c796a8d& [30-Mar-25 02:15 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I think itโ€™s not recognizing the destination? [30-Mar-25 02:17 PM] katinga#0000 The destination is Nike, it's been valid ever since I had a base there [30-Mar-25 02:19 PM] katinga#0000 same thing happens for Nascent... on this ship {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355984724585087188/image.png?ex=68151aaf&is=6813c92f&hm=e69c0e75418af214d65834db01c12a0e4dcab1da9ca7a22badf1439bf6475afa& [30-Mar-25 02:19 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Hmm weird [30-Mar-25 02:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I just know that sometimes there are weird issues with the text entry boxes [30-Mar-25 02:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Guess you should bug report it [30-Mar-25 02:20 PM] katinga#0000 I'm not typing that alphanumeric thing in... i let it autofill. my memory ain't THAT good to know those by heart [30-Mar-25 02:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 No neither is mine, I just know that theyโ€™re buggy sometimes [30-Mar-25 02:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Bc that is weird [30-Mar-25 02:22 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I've had similar bugs in the flight path screen, which have almost always been solvable by changing the amount of fuel in the tanks. Maybe keep the flight screen open and dump/reload fuel or try different amounts of fuel. [30-Mar-25 02:23 PM] katinga#0000 they don't like full tanks? I like full tanks [30-Mar-25 02:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I would report it to the devs tho if you could [30-Mar-25 02:23 PM] katinga#0000 how? [30-Mar-25 02:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 The main discord? [30-Mar-25 02:49 PM] katinga#0000 well that solution didn't work [30-Mar-25 02:52 PM] katinga#0000 It's only affecting my 5K ship [30-Mar-25 02:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 have you flown the 5K before? iirc there's certain builds where the ship is actually too large/heavy for FTL travel [30-Mar-25 02:58 PM] katinga#0000 What's the point of adding them to the game then? [30-Mar-25 03:00 PM] katinga#0000 No... the ship just finished building today. It is equipped with FTL engines [30-Mar-25 03:00 PM] sidepipe#0000 Don't ask me, I didn't add them ๐Ÿ˜› [30-Mar-25 03:01 PM] sidepipe#0000 Can you share the BLU? [30-Mar-25 03:01 PM] katinga#0000 https://tenor.com/view/smurfs-dance-party-smurf-dance-smurf-gif-22270931 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/smurfs-dance-party-smurf-dance-smurf-gif-22270931 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Y2dU0wpHruQzUavmVb6VxhNCvWwsq0aMYgIJHOJbxmE/https/media.tenor.com/kSrg11OOBbcAAAAe/smurfs-dance-party-smurf-dance.png [30-Mar-25 03:04 PM] sidepipe#0000 I thought you said it had FTL engines? [30-Mar-25 03:04 PM] katinga#0000 It does [30-Mar-25 03:06 PM] sidepipe#0000 It's got arms and legs alright, but no reactors [30-Mar-25 03:07 PM] katinga#0000 It has a QCR [30-Mar-25 03:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 And if you share the BLU, I'd be happy to help you figure out what to remove so it can do FTL ๐Ÿ˜‰ [30-Mar-25 03:08 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have this bug on my 100t ship when amount of FTL fuel is zero [30-Mar-25 03:09 PM] katinga#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355997412329783406/image.png?ex=68152680&is=6813d500&hm=7677e98e15729542477fc2b18108b5ef23ed2970244648077690979912cbf531& [30-Mar-25 03:10 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I mean when I set reactor fuel usage in the flight screen to the minimum [30-Mar-25 03:10 PM] katinga#0000 The sliders? Those don't appear while you're setting a destination [30-Mar-25 03:11 PM] mrsmith33#0000 after I set the destination [30-Mar-25 03:11 PM] katinga#0000 It's not giving me a slider for the 5k ship. it did from Heph to ANT [30-Mar-25 03:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 It is in the same system [30-Mar-25 03:13 PM] katinga#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355998380513427556/image.png?ex=68152767&is=6813d5e7&hm=5971e919c1785204c1e9840a6b85d9f6cb55f015e61cc2a50289d86aa4dec9ba& [30-Mar-25 03:14 PM] katinga#0000 And i'm trying to get it to go to Nike [30-Mar-25 03:17 PM] sidepipe#0000 [30-Mar-25 03:18 PM] sidepipe#0000 so this is what I was talking about - CptColeslaw ran into something similar with his ship where he couldn't fly it out of the system [30-Mar-25 03:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 apparently upgrading the FTL is what made it work, like a HYR or something like that [30-Mar-25 03:19 PM] katinga#0000 I have half that much on my BLU, though [30-Mar-25 03:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 FWIW, this one seems to fly just fine, but it's also a lower volume {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1355999975313772624/image.png?ex=681528e3&is=6813d763&hm=2e61dc710880a0397c7df5e9ac6badbb02324c3eb0b9afd58e45586836700fbd& [30-Mar-25 03:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 It's not the bells & whistles tho, it's the volume of the ship. yours and his are both 6121 m^3 [30-Mar-25 03:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 try making a few blueprints and messing around in BTF to see if you have the same problem. either smaller fuel tanks (to lower volume) or a beefier reactor should handle it [30-Mar-25 03:21 PM] katinga#0000 BTF? [30-Mar-25 03:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 it's frustrating because as far as I know those volume limits aren't really published anywhere [30-Mar-25 03:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 yeah, `BTF BP-VQBF-7216` will let you test flights with your HCB blueprint for example [30-Mar-25 03:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm guessing the cheapest (down)grade that will get it flying is medium fuel tanks [30-Mar-25 09:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Was it too heavy to take off? [30-Mar-25 09:58 PM] max.kalina#0000 This configuration can't fly {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356100437794754580/Screenshot_20250331_085824_Chrome.jpg?ex=6814ddb3&is=68138c33&hm=ee57084a4ba846fb00f0ffddceed8e29a7f526c52484a7f70b1a1303fa9bc5d9& [30-Mar-25 10:03 PM] max.kalina#0000 I tried different combinations and guess the problem is in low power of quick charge FTL reactor with 5K cargo bay. If I change cargo bay to 2K, it is ok. If I change FTL reactor to Standart with 5K it is ok [30-Mar-25 10:12 PM] archielvahr#0000 wow I guess I am very lucky I put small tanks in mine ๐Ÿ˜ฌ [30-Mar-25 10:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oh yeah, mine flies basically only at 100% reactor usage. [30-Mar-25 10:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 this reveals something we don't really understand about FTL flight. there must be a charge limit or something [30-Mar-25 10:14 PM] archielvahr#0000 If anyone figures out the details, I think it should be posted in https://discord.com/channels/667551433503014924/1007729549087342592 [30-Mar-25 10:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 That's the PRUN community tools blueprint research channel [31-Mar-25 01:14 AM] evov#0000 This is the HCB config I use / make / sell. ( probably about 10+ of these ships flying around now ) The FTL engine is capped out I think. Pretty sure it's volume related. So if you're planning to build a HCB with a volume that exceeds 5837m^3 - double check it with test fights before building it. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356149665183170823/image.png?ex=68150b8c&is=6813ba0c&hm=dd5ac478f30a6acb789baff0b59b1fecdd0df39a6bbbfe1ed17a1b486339507a& [31-Mar-25 02:14 AM] max.kalina#0000 So it need large FTL tank to fly [31-Mar-25 02:14 AM] evov#0000 No. I think it needs the large STL tank to be dropped down to a medium [31-Mar-25 02:15 AM] evov#0000 I suspect, the large stl tank is what's pushing it over a volume limit. [31-Mar-25 02:19 AM] max.kalina#0000 Yeap, it works [31-Mar-25 08:29 AM] akyantor#0000 Consumable Bundles coming soon: https://discord.com/channels/350171287785701388/447445362970460175/1356257392798470317 I can't say I love that you've got to unpack them manually... that said, still has potential as a modest QoL improvement without automatic consumption of bundles. [31-Mar-25 09:28 AM] bookliko#0000 Not sure if this is a net gain in QoL. To use the feature, one needs to transport all the MAT's to one (manufacturing) planet, use 35 area and even more PIO+SET. Than transport again to CX for further distribution. [31-Mar-25 09:29 AM] sidepipe#0000 Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this works out. But there's a small part of me that just wants to become a consumable packing compay ๐Ÿ˜„ [31-Mar-25 10:06 AM] zipatsu#0000 I just do it like that for my bases. Makes no sense to me to first produce all the consumables, ship them to a planet to combine them into packages and then ship those packages to the CX where you hope / expect people to now pay extra for the consumables because they're bundled? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356283424108970075/image.png?ex=6814df5e&is=68138dde&hm=13eda7a2517e1ded03a6c6a024734b15fafa39a6299da2c60fc0a672ce413b48& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356283424419090482/image.png?ex=6814df5e&is=68138dde&hm=c88af175745acba113152d9fe6505388be60f72db8252037a3e987cd93caacfa& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [31-Mar-25 10:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah I dont see a point in the bundles, to make it reasonably profitable for producers, all consumables cost will be about 7.5% higher for consumers [31-Mar-25 10:22 AM] sidepipe#0000 I think it's a feature that some folks on the forums were pretty vocally asking for, so it's not just out of nowhere [31-Mar-25 10:25 AM] pagy1234#0000 really? [31-Mar-25 10:28 AM] marat_sh#0000 Yeah, the point was to reduce amount of clicks for late game [31-Mar-25 10:29 AM] marat_sh#0000 Honestly, giving people shortcuts (like actions) would help better than this {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [31-Mar-25 10:29 AM] zipatsu#0000 Having an instant refuel button would help a ton with reducing the clicks ๐Ÿฅน {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (5) [31-Mar-25 10:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 I'm not 100% sure if I'll use the consumable packages or not. They'l be HUGE for sponsored bases though {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (2) [31-Mar-25 10:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 no more multicontracts for resupplying a base [31-Mar-25 10:30 AM] sidepipe#0000 and I do like that it creates a new industry in the game, that's always good imo [31-Mar-25 10:31 AM] marat_sh#0000 I will probably use it for convenience if the price isnโ€™t that high [31-Mar-25 10:32 AM] marat_sh#0000 But it definitely gonna be a super niche business [31-Mar-25 12:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 i think it might be possible to make an xit action to do that [31-Mar-25 12:51 PM] .urpalhal#0000 it just might be fickle [31-Mar-25 01:17 PM] timomurbekov#0000 ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356331621527195818/ea5f408ee2c4bd35.png?ex=68150c41&is=6813bac1&hm=79f8500dff0fb8e8b58be2d821e1873f46f2d578e1d8127de05b7ab1c053e5b1& {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ [31-Mar-25 01:21 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, definitely a win for those type of bases. [31-Mar-25 03:26 PM] zipatsu#0000 No such luck playing on Steam, best I can do is hope it gets added one day ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} givelove [31-Mar-25 08:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 Yay for auction day - lmk if I missed anyone! {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356443025651269823/image.png?ex=6814cb42&is=681379c2&hm=983fe95e2203e096a8e31722e621907e438a6ff101e2269f1dc482e00f328f1f& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘€ โœŒ๏ธ [31-Mar-25 08:43 PM] sidepipe#0000 (I'm keeping the PFE open a bit longer, but let me know if you bid on it and need the stuff soon) [31-Mar-25 08:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 You missed the 193661938261 you were gonna give me [31-Mar-25 08:47 PM] sidepipe#0000 got it - that'll be 19366193826100 AIC please ๐Ÿ˜† [31-Mar-25 08:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 [31-Mar-25 10:57 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think this is the only use case I imagine. Supplying sponsored bases. But now that we have multi-item contracts, resupplying them is way easier. so.... don' t need the packaging. [31-Mar-25 10:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 And if you are actually doing a ton of PIO work and area to bundle up the mats.. at least make them compress drastically better or something. [31-Mar-25 10:58 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess we'll see if they get used ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ [31-Mar-25 11:10 PM] martin1194#0000 Is there anyone not using refined PMMG? [31-Mar-25 11:10 PM] martin1194#0000 I am thinking is from game dev or refined PMMG {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356480891785973770/image.png?ex=6814ee86&is=68139d06&hm=da4f6d81876ecefa972875f9d84185fa686e2747c737935b52a18ecd404e15f8& [31-Mar-25 11:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't have that rat icon, but it's not april fools day for me yet... 1 more hour [01-Apr-25 12:15 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Evov [01-Apr-25 12:47 AM] martin1194#0000 @evov Do you see ur Food turned to mice? [01-Apr-25 03:22 AM] evov#0000 Nope {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1356544350787735682/image.png?ex=681529a0&is=6813d820&hm=ca2970784e0d6e635e50de1a7037efdc68296e2762110a991a8d4fff3c608434& {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ (4) [01-Apr-25 04:16 AM] evov#0000 Can confirm, I may be the only source of CLEAN rodent free base supplies in the region. [01-Apr-25 09:06 AM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™m sure that as CEOs, we all dine on MEA and WIN - who cares what the pioneers eat? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ’ฏ [01-Apr-25 09:06 AM] sidepipe#0000 (Definitely not saying that because Iโ€™ve got ๐Ÿ€ in my rats too) [01-Apr-25 10:57 AM] superbadsounds#0000 I've been under the impression that RATs are naturally part rodent.. crops tend to attract such creatures and I haven't read one thing about there being space cats to help control those populations. I bet every RAT produced has a non-zero amount of rat.. yay for more protein! [01-Apr-25 08:57 PM] exeler#0000 You mean you don't get your RATs from the vermin farm world? They compress nicely into space ready shelf stable pellets that can be fed to the masses [07-Apr-25 05:48 AM] martin1194#0000 Everyone, since I doing a long contract with LAXY and I have some FF spare in my warehouse. LAXY sell me at CX MID price. I will do FF at 15ea. Please send me contract if anyone need to refill. : P [07-Apr-25 05:55 AM] martin1194#0000 @lax9552 ping you here for just letting you know. You can continue sending FF contract to me at CX middle price. ๐Ÿ˜› It's all good. Just I have ton of spare now. ๐Ÿ˜› [07-Apr-25 06:21 PM] lax9552#0000 Okay I can keep you fed. ๐Ÿ‘ [07-Apr-25 06:42 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Does anyone know what happens if you miss the deadline on a faction shipment contract? [07-Apr-25 06:43 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Do I just have the shipment stuck in my inventory now? [07-Apr-25 06:48 PM] .urpalhal#0000 It should disappear or get unpacked? [07-Apr-25 06:48 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Idk Iโ€™ve never tried before [07-Apr-25 06:49 PM] draconisdomini#0000 Maybe it's just in a weird intermediate state. It says the deadline was exceeded, but the contract hasn't breached yet [07-Apr-25 06:54 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Can you deliver it now? [07-Apr-25 07:05 PM] draconisdomini#0000 There wasn't any button to deliver. Anyway, looks like it's gone now the contract has actually breached {Reactions} RSZeroShrugIDK [07-Apr-25 07:11 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh PrUn [08-Apr-25 10:55 AM] allocater#0000 can not bid higher than 430k on SCI bundle, because of the price band, but I want to bid 500k ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Apr-25 11:10 AM] pagy1234#0000 some big player should buy these, massively cheaper than rest of market, and everyone is putting ask orders above while waiting for those 3 to go {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1359198767064158318/Screenshot_2025-04-09_at_12.09.06_AM.png?ex=6814ee7e&is=68139cfe&hm=b7d9e603944f37664e74f2155ec862268c5182c14288c92fc3ff770dc4e70294& [08-Apr-25 11:20 AM] archielvahr#0000 I guess I set the price band when I made some lowball bids [08-Apr-25 11:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I am curious if anyone will make the scientist bundles [08-Apr-25 11:39 AM] sidepipe#0000 I personally think theyโ€™d be very useful for the rented bases. Maybe Iโ€™ll manufacture a few and throw them on the market [08-Apr-25 11:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 I think it'll be tough to keep them priced in sync with the market. If MEA goes up, then people will buy them out just to unpack them and sell the MEA straight. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [08-Apr-25 11:47 AM] archielvahr#0000 Just like people would shuck hard drives back in the day [08-Apr-25 11:48 AM] archielvahr#0000 Buy external drives, throw out the enclosure, put the drive in a machine [08-Apr-25 12:08 PM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s true, but does it matter if youโ€™re making a profit on the MEA you put into it? And maybe a little extra on the other consumables as well ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Apr-25 12:10 PM] sidepipe#0000 I havenโ€™t looked at the price of the other things that go into them, but I feel like the MEA price change would have to be pretty significant to take on the rest of the stuff profitably as well [08-Apr-25 12:11 PM] sidepipe#0000 I guess to use your metaphor, you have to pay $300 for that hard drive, but the company selling the enclosure doesnโ€™t pay that much [08-Apr-25 12:15 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah. I think bundling generally is a good way to extract value (that's why I try to sell whole ships, after all). [08-Apr-25 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 Just that you have to remember to reprice your Sci bundles as MEA changes. Someone else buying them out to sell them is fine. but it's a bummer if you forget you have a bunch listed at a price that no longer makes sense ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Apr-25 12:16 PM] archielvahr#0000 speaking as someone who has had stuff on the CX for multiple years without selling it because I forget to relist it ๐Ÿ˜† [08-Apr-25 12:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 100% true. I just approach it like I approach all flipping - if I was happy to sell it for x AIC a year ago, Iโ€™m not too upset if it sells for x AIC now. Not as much profit as I could have made, but still made a profit ๐Ÿ˜ [08-Apr-25 12:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 But itโ€™ll be interesting to see if people list and forget, or if the bundles track their CX value pretty closely [08-Apr-25 12:54 PM] bookliko#0000 https://tenor.com/view/waiting-simpsons-homer-whistle-gif-3132297775970105154 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/waiting-simpsons-homer-whistle-gif-3132297775970105154 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/J3s-L_G7cpnHkwO2qaQKiPCqgdQJq_8siLYfMtDloTE/https/media.tenor.com/K3goO0txt0IAAAAe/waiting-simpsons.png [08-Apr-25 12:56 PM] pagy1234#0000 lol, its all gone ๐Ÿ˜† [08-Apr-25 01:52 PM] allocater#0000 the bundles are really great for shipping contracts, just 1 contract, instead of 5-7 [08-Apr-25 01:52 PM] allocater#0000 per pop group [08-Apr-25 01:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 multi contracts! [08-Apr-25 01:53 PM] allocater#0000 for shipping? I mean LM shipping [08-Apr-25 01:53 PM] archielvahr#0000 Ah they do work for shipping too, but maybe not LM shipping [08-Apr-25 01:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hmm yeah honestly I kinda forgot about the LM ๐Ÿ˜… [08-Apr-25 03:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 Is anyone at their PC and able to check - did firefreak just COLIQ? [08-Apr-25 03:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 I saw some ominous stuff in global chat but Iโ€™m not sure if things just arenโ€™t loading because Iโ€™m on mobile ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Apr-25 03:59 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Still there {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1359271583507550479/image.png?ex=6814898f&is=6813380f&hm=d2291f55746484aef1c7b6ac1868ed611c72bbb1f42d4f9b55236ae3c11dfa05& [08-Apr-25 04:02 PM] akyantor#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1359272274418602105/image.png?ex=68148a34&is=681338b4&hm=62d34a307e8938987ac0c078c4e1c9c35aeb5136378d6942ec1fd3f304f018ce& [08-Apr-25 04:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 His company isn't loading for me [08-Apr-25 04:02 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, his company appears to be nuked. :S [08-Apr-25 04:03 PM] archielvahr#0000 I guess we'll see if the econ report shows a drop on April 8 [08-Apr-25 04:04 PM] archielvahr#0000 But yeah I think those Loading messages appear in LEAD when someone quits [08-Apr-25 04:05 PM] sidepipe#0000 Maybe this will finally relax the MEA boom a bit ๐Ÿ˜ [08-Apr-25 04:06 PM] archielvahr#0000 true, he had what.. like 20 IDC bases? [08-Apr-25 04:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 my two IDC bases make 70 a day, and he made 677 per day [08-Apr-25 04:07 PM] akyantor#0000 I guess it depends on how much mea he was buying vs in-house production [08-Apr-25 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 he only made 200 per day, so if those IDC numbers are right, he was buying a lot. [08-Apr-25 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 Well I have some MED stocked up. Maybe someone should buy out NC1 [08-Apr-25 04:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 I think lowstrife already did actually ๐Ÿ˜› [08-Apr-25 04:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 ahh I was looking for the production charts by player, rather than scrubbing through LEAD [08-Apr-25 04:34 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve got plenty of COT and HER, so Iโ€™ll start making some [08-Apr-25 07:15 PM] pagy1234#0000 @.urpalhal , sent you a cont for this : https://discord.com/channels/854795108720443393/1156955200867811450/1358798445556531223, didnt see that you filled it ๐Ÿ˜… {Reactions} ๐Ÿซก [08-Apr-25 08:51 PM] sidepipe#0000 Sooooโ€ฆ is it time to claim firefreakโ€™s IDC system now that heโ€™s quit? ๐Ÿ˜„ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [08-Apr-25 09:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 you sent it for RATs not LDE [08-Apr-25 09:15 PM] pagy1234#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ญ [08-Apr-25 09:17 PM] pagy1234#0000 resent it now {Reactions} danceboi [08-Apr-25 09:48 PM] superbadsounds#0000 I bet there is still the settlement fee, but still someone should grab the popi before it dissipates... [08-Apr-25 09:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 yeah, and you can elect yourself and pay yourself back since there's no government ๐Ÿ˜„ [08-Apr-25 09:49 PM] sidepipe#0000 I might go grab one tomorrow [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] superbadsounds#0000 It's just too much infrastructure to let go to waste haha [08-Apr-25 09:51 PM] superbadsounds#0000 Did anyone hear what drove him to quit? [09-Apr-25 01:10 AM] archielvahr#0000 Ohh yeah I wonder if any of them have money in them. [09-Apr-25 01:11 AM] archielvahr#0000 Lemme know which planet you take, I might grab one to check [09-Apr-25 01:31 AM] melon164#0000 ๐Ÿค” I wonder if any of the planets have enough cash to perform a leveraged buyout, where they can pay me back enough to be worth the cost of the permit... [09-Apr-25 03:27 AM] evov#0000 If they're IDC bases, and you WANT an idc base, it costs around 10mil in infrastructure costs to set up. Max Base establishment fee is 10mil. [09-Apr-25 10:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 On YA-646c, taxes are zero so I bet they have no balance. [09-Apr-25 10:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 https://kortham.net/temp/firefox_InLBqzMnJa.png {Embed} https://kortham.net/temp/firefox_InLBqzMnJa.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/t2UDcc-LWG6lFa2Vj2Mx9yy-ceVoPU6jwMX1g3goYOc/https/kortham.net/temp/firefox_InLBqzMnJa.png [09-Apr-25 10:21 AM] archielvahr#0000 Wow that balance is wild [09-Apr-25 10:22 AM] archielvahr#0000 happiness at exactly 70%, 0 growth, 0 loss. 0% unemplyoment [09-Apr-25 10:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 SST, INF, Art cafe.. and they all run out of mats in 3 days. [09-Apr-25 10:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 Which implies it was planned 30d in advance [09-Apr-25 10:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 I mean, Iโ€™m just planning on picking one up so the pops dont go to waste [09-Apr-25 10:25 AM] sidepipe#0000 Theyโ€™re 3 days away, but you only need to visit once a month [09-Apr-25 10:26 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I just don't know if I want another IDC base, heh. [09-Apr-25 10:27 AM] archielvahr#0000 I assume we have some months before the next balance patch? Hard to guess. [09-Apr-25 01:11 PM] allocater#0000 I still have the dashboard from when we planned an invasion to take over the government and immediately pay out the 10mil to ourselves again [09-Apr-25 01:12 PM] allocater#0000 I thought the permit goes into the gov account, so there will always be enough money to pay you back {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† [09-Apr-25 01:13 PM] allocater#0000 I am ready to accept 2 base teleports, but have no ships for an invasion [10-Apr-25 04:40 PM] sidepipe#0000 if people are interested, I can send a ship out this weekend [10-Apr-25 05:49 PM] archielvahr#0000 I decided against adding another IDC base. I think eventually they will reduce the price on it. But also those systems are super far away and I did go through every govt motion and I'm pretty confident they have 0 balance [10-Apr-25 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 So it probably makes sense to take several of them to consolidate shipping, and I don't have those kinds of permits to spare [10-Apr-25 05:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 @allocater I can always gift you time, then you can fly more ships for a bit {Reactions} โค๏ธ [10-Apr-25 06:23 PM] sidepipe#0000 I do agree they'll reduce the price on it long-term - I view this as more of a short-term opportunistic thing. just get in and grab the SCI while they're still there, and then we can ditch the planets when the nerf happens [10-Apr-25 06:24 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've also only got one spare permit atm [10-Apr-25 06:28 PM] sidepipe#0000 are you just wanting me to bring over and drop the stuff for the CM? and can you share the dashboard? I think it's still best to drop bases in the last 24 hours. idk if firefreak could still log on and withdraw the establishment money before then [10-Apr-25 07:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 I don't believe he could after a coliq [10-Apr-25 07:29 PM] pagy1234#0000 I see that you guys are talking about taking over a planet or something? how does that even work? and how does it benefit you guys? [10-Apr-25 07:52 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, originally firefreak had a bunch of private IDC planets that he ran himself and kept everyone else out of (with 10M base fee like Nyx), and someone came up with a plan to sneak the planets out from under him [10-Apr-25 07:53 PM] sidepipe#0000 But now, itโ€™s more just taking over the empty planets because each of them has pops for a single IDC base and itโ€™d be a shame if those went to waste ๐Ÿ˜„ [10-Apr-25 08:05 PM] archielvahr#0000 He basically designed the planets to be single IDC base planets [10-Apr-25 08:09 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Oh really? [10-Apr-25 11:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 exactly 400 sci, no taxes, max base establishment fee, then 1 STS, 1 INF, 1 art cafe [10-Apr-25 11:54 PM] archielvahr#0000 Paid for each immigration project in the same motion as the contribution, so the planet never held cash [11-Apr-25 12:02 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Wild [11-Apr-25 12:41 AM] allocater#0000 yes, but I realize the bottle neck will be the 240 RBH/RSE to build all those bases. I only have 1 kit ready on Malahat [11-Apr-25 12:53 AM] allocater#0000 also the warehouse will not hold an entire kit [11-Apr-25 12:54 AM] allocater#0000 so it will either be complicated small contracting or only via own ships from orbit [11-Apr-25 12:57 AM] allocater#0000 the dash was only in prun and tracking the election times {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1360131582064595005/image.png?ex=6815077f&is=6813b5ff&hm=7244b97b233aa44cf1645becb69484bd3eb138e695c463e35c4aff79438aa8c5& [11-Apr-25 07:28 AM] pagy1234#0000 ohh lol [11-Apr-25 07:28 AM] pagy1234#0000 why did the game even allow such base fees lmao [11-Apr-25 07:29 AM] pagy1234#0000 dayum, thats a massive system [11-Apr-25 08:47 AM] sidepipe#0000 Thatโ€™s actually a good point to remember if we ever want to make our own private planet/system - donโ€™t build a WAR so they have to send 10M _and_ a ship for each base [11-Apr-25 08:48 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Probably not a big deal for someone with spare 10M [11-Apr-25 08:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Probably not, just adds an extra barrier to entry [11-Apr-25 08:46 PM] evov#0000 Sounds like it's a lot more work than simply going and starting a new planet for yourself though. [11-Apr-25 08:53 PM] evov#0000 And it's kinda hard to assess the "push back" from the community that might come along with stealing planets. If you're talking about IDC bases, having 2 people join at the same time, you're probably going to lose a lot more than 10mil worth of productivity on those permits while waiting for pop to fill. [11-Apr-25 08:57 PM] sidepipe#0000 Well, thatโ€™s part of why we never did go ahead with it [11-Apr-25 08:58 PM] sidepipe#0000 And now itโ€™s not stealing since theyโ€™re vacant - just adopting ๐Ÿ˜„ [11-Apr-25 09:05 PM] evov#0000 Yea, might make sense now if someone is really interested in IDC's and has enough permits. I think I'd probably still be inclined to build my own closer to ANT, even if it's more costly in the short term. [13-Apr-25 03:15 AM] martin1194#0000 Is there any tutorial for XIT ACTION from PRUNNER? [13-Apr-25 12:33 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Not that Iโ€™m aware ofโ€ฆ I could show you if that would help [13-Apr-25 07:28 PM] pagy1234#0000 @superbadsounds, please pick up your PG from my contract, it will breach soon. [13-Apr-25 07:29 PM] pagy1234#0000 thanks :D [14-Apr-25 07:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/market-maker-changes-may-5th-2025/6983 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/market-maker-changes-may-5th-2025/6983 Market Maker Changes (May 5th, 2025) When? We plan to adjust market maker prices on May 5th, 2025. What? Based on @lowstrifeโ€™s detailed feedback combined with our own judgement and taking near-future recipe plans into account, weโ€™ll adjust the prices at which market makers buy commodities as follows: ADR: 58000 โ†’ 70000 AIR: 185000 โ†’ 200000 CBL: 91000 โ†’ 91000 CBM: 63000... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [14-Apr-25 07:49 AM] sidepipe#0000 Looks like another IDC nerf is on the horizon! 15300 -> 11k over a month [14-Apr-25 07:53 AM] pagy1234#0000 YAY :D [14-Apr-25 07:53 AM] pagy1234#0000 cant wait to see how it affects the profitability of all the other stuff [14-Apr-25 08:00 AM] zipatsu#0000 https://tenor.com/view/bun-burn-out-gif-23448898 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/bun-burn-out-gif-23448898 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ufKR7sBHowictsrBOsMS4ZQiCrzn7x4JAaXEsACwK_c/https/media.tenor.com/Ipzp3RTQwC0AAAAe/bun-burn.png [14-Apr-25 11:20 AM] pagy1234#0000 @archielvahr some bum is questioning how you run phobos lol https://discord.com/channels/350171287785701388/350171288267915277/1361373917092122734 [14-Apr-25 11:20 AM] pagy1234#0000 I have no idea how governing works so i cant really defend you [14-Apr-25 11:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 probably not imporantant but just letting your know [14-Apr-25 11:21 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Says youโ€™re over paying [14-Apr-25 11:23 AM] sidepipe#0000 Itโ€™s Malahat all over again [14-Apr-25 11:23 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah idk how his math works, but im trusting your spreadsheet [14-Apr-25 11:23 AM] sidepipe#0000 Same guy, same complaint, probably same outcome (which is that it will go nowhere) [14-Apr-25 11:33 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Have we ever seen his maths? [14-Apr-25 11:33 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Or does he just make crazy statements [14-Apr-25 11:34 AM] sidepipe#0000 Uhm, not sure. If itโ€™s anything like Malahat we might not [14-Apr-25 11:35 AM] sidepipe#0000 But seriously, donโ€™t argue with him too much, just let him wear himself out [14-Apr-25 11:35 AM] sidepipe#0000 The argument is free publicity for whenever he tries to run for Phobos gov [14-Apr-25 11:39 AM] akyantor#0000 Wow, some angry folks. I don't know why people feel like they're entitled to a bunch of free money via IDC farming. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘† (2) [14-Apr-25 11:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I think lowstrife pulled up a sheet without the mats set [14-Apr-25 11:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 The tool dose take some work to understand and use correctly [14-Apr-25 11:41 AM] archielvahr#0000 masterdmon just has a grudge [14-Apr-25 11:42 AM] archielvahr#0000 Also Rise set the taxes for Phobos [14-Apr-25 11:43 AM] archielvahr#0000 I am trying to catch up on the whole discussion, then I will help lowstrife with the tool [14-Apr-25 12:09 PM] archielvahr#0000 Oof okay, I think we have a solid stopping point for that particular trainwreck ๐Ÿ˜› {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ (3) [14-Apr-25 12:24 PM] akyantor#0000 Well diffused. Seemed mostly mis-directed fire as a result of unhappiness about the IDC decision. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [14-Apr-25 12:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah, it's crazy to me how invested some people are into the "I will quit if I can't make IDC" [14-Apr-25 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 And it always seems to come from "This is way better than everything else in the game, and making IDC is _my thing_ and if I can't make it, I'll quit" [14-Apr-25 12:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Which is basically just "I want it to be unbalanced" [14-Apr-25 12:43 PM] marat_sh#0000 I would trade IDC people for new people who enjoy complex chains anyday of the week {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ (4) [14-Apr-25 12:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 we don't know how many people have quit the game because they can see that to be succesful just make 1 thing [14-Apr-25 12:44 PM] akyantor#0000 Yeah, can't be much satisfaction from IDC farming. Whereas building up the supply chain for all the ship shields has been super rewarding due to some of the complexity. [14-Apr-25 12:45 PM] marat_sh#0000 I might invest into PG base [14-Apr-25 12:46 PM] marat_sh#0000 looks like we gonna need more of it [14-Apr-25 03:28 PM] marat_sh#0000 I am not a gov expert, but I am curios, for UNI, why people use COF instead of REA? REA is cheaper (currently) and has same consumption [14-Apr-25 03:36 PM] akyantor#0000 tbh, COF or REA are both super expensive compared to HD, IDC or TUB [14-Apr-25 03:38 PM] marat_sh#0000 True, TUB is so way cheaper [14-Apr-25 03:39 PM] akyantor#0000 Easy to get caught out on the fact that IDC/HD are only consumed every 10 days not every 3 too. [14-Apr-25 03:40 PM] akyantor#0000 HD is currently the cheapest for filling Deimos [14-Apr-25 03:40 PM] akyantor#0000 I daresay it moves around based upon supply though [14-Apr-25 03:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 Mostly it's that sometimes REA, TUB, and HD are sold out on the market [14-Apr-25 03:40 PM] archielvahr#0000 It has been getting better though [14-Apr-25 03:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 OLF is often out of stock, MHP is better now than it used to be. (But it's 100% OOG production) [14-Apr-25 03:41 PM] archielvahr#0000 TUB just runs out quickly. [14-Apr-25 03:41 PM] akyantor#0000 I've fortunately my own supply of TUB, so that's a fall back for me. [14-Apr-25 03:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 https://kortham.net/temp/firefox_HeMUdQGtgL.png {Embed} https://kortham.net/temp/firefox_HeMUdQGtgL.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/IcY8ZKiEWsfJTHpoD4Bgdx0mrtKwnjicoZcEz-7NTRs/https/kortham.net/temp/firefox_HeMUdQGtgL.png [14-Apr-25 03:42 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah Phobos needs 4000. usually there's not 4k up. Right now you could do a couple planets but that probably won't fill that quickly [14-Apr-25 03:44 PM] akyantor#0000 It is a challenge on a larger planet, market is thin for some goods. [14-Apr-25 03:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 Do we need a TUB factory? Iโ€™d be happy to add to my gov goods portfolio ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Apr-25 03:50 PM] sidepipe#0000 Iโ€™ve got MHP and PFE already [14-Apr-25 04:07 PM] archielvahr#0000 I actually tend to work around it, so I'm not sure if I can recommend it ๐Ÿ˜„ [14-Apr-25 04:08 PM] archielvahr#0000 As IDC prices fall, IDC gets better and better in the UNIs {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ’ฏ [14-Apr-25 05:56 PM] zipatsu#0000 I don't see the point of playing an economy sim and then spending all your effort on basically ignoring the entire player interaction part of it while generating infinity+1 currency from selling to the machine MM. I understand there needs to be an influx of credits somehow but surely the devs can come up with a better, more involved, method of achieving that in a way that benefits everyone. As an example they could work on expanding the quest contract system to encourage the development of empty planets, perhaps even terraforming them in the process to be more bountiful on resources or maybe even setting up and maintaining NPC bases as a community goal which would then replace the current endless MM system with one where the players themselves directly influence the rates and amounts of those materials / items showing up on the CX through upgrading those bases while still leaving room for real people to profit as there'd be a time / opportunity element to the NPC production. 's more of a random late night imagination than a well thought idea but I've been against the IDC cash printer ever since learning about its existence โœŒ๏ธ [14-Apr-25 06:13 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Yeah I think it makes more sense to buff whatโ€™s weak than to nerf whatโ€™s good [14-Apr-25 06:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 It would be cool if we could terraform and the cost like POPI would change based on the infra built and what is supplied to it {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (3) [14-Apr-25 06:14 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Or like a way to densify plot density on a planet so more plots can be made available [14-Apr-25 06:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah that would be awesome. [16-Apr-25 04:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Is there a table with all building costs (for all levels) for POPI buildings? Alternatively, what tool can sort planets by total population? Probably could query FIO for this [16-Apr-25 04:04 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have data for these ``` SST 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 SDP 1 2 EMC 1 INF 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 HOS 1 2 WCE 1 PAR 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 4DA 1 2 ACA 1 2 3 ART 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 VRT 1 2 PBH 1 2 LIB 1 2 4 UNI 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ``` [16-Apr-25 04:05 AM] evov#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1361990979330117652/image.png?ex=68148af2&is=68133972&hm=e69071550bb54f0aa0b87d0a780983a1968df92e1ac5161fba37f5dc269c5700& [16-Apr-25 04:06 AM] evov#0000 prices subject to change [16-Apr-25 04:06 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I'm looking for material list [16-Apr-25 04:08 AM] evov#0000 Add 20% per level - base costs {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1361991618806419466/image.png?ex=68148b8a&is=68133a0a&hm=94f30a4b364878a63c488058bfec1695eb4c1aee8007247ea0940fba5a14e2e0& [16-Apr-25 04:08 AM] evov#0000 Lots of items in there that aren't available on the CX. So I've got estimated numbers (yellow). [16-Apr-25 04:14 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Thanks, figured it out Formula is `=ROUND(BASE_COST * POWER(1,2; LEVEL - 1); 0)` [16-Apr-25 04:15 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Looks 100% correct {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1361993292119543838/image.png?ex=68148d19&is=68133b99&hm=d4686e1907f2d051f8cb723b4f9da51364797c4520b70e3e5902782c6c96b180& [16-Apr-25 04:16 AM] evov#0000 Possibly. I'm not sure how it works with rounding (especially for bui's that have single item inputs) I just know it goes up 20% per tier. So it starts getting kinda expensive. [16-Apr-25 04:17 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Rounding looks to be standard, since lower ones (<5) are rounded down, and higher are rounded up (>5) [16-Apr-25 04:18 AM] evov#0000 lvl2 costs for SST is correct. [16-Apr-25 04:19 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I have all SST levels data from in-game UI [16-Apr-25 04:19 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Seems to match the rounded version [16-Apr-25 04:23 AM] mrsmith33#0000 Subtracted from in-game data {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1361995313769877524/image.png?ex=68148efb&is=68133d7b&hm=e4bb8f55f07cbd7e3ae9342640162f4a36f1150da9a21013ced3e262c5875e02& [16-Apr-25 09:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 those are some taaaaaaallllllllllllllll screenshots [16-Apr-25 09:23 AM] archielvahr#0000 We should stick that one the wiki {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [16-Apr-25 09:24 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I want to update my XIT action to include all PPS levels of POPI buildings [16-Apr-25 09:36 AM] sidepipe#0000 Welcome @weltkriegdrei ! {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ (3) [17-Apr-25 02:49 AM] evov#0000 Yea, I thought poeple could zoom in as needed. I perhaps thought wrong haha. [17-Apr-25 06:28 AM] jerry.9790#0000 Do repairs ever cost the TSH,TRU or PSL materials? [17-Apr-25 06:35 AM] evov#0000 TRU, yes. TSH, yes if it's a HOT planet. PSL - none that I'm aware of. [17-Apr-25 06:38 AM] evov#0000 e.g. - List of repair materials for my operation if I were to repair things every 90 days (*which I don't do anymore, just haven't modified this tool since I changed repair timings ) So potentially you'll use all these for repairs depending on your buildings / planets you're on etc. {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1362391808545526013/image.png?ex=6814aebf&is=68135d3f&hm=3e2b9fc6cd8001c9c6c00ef46cb92f79f78dedefab9dceb48f0dfab96f7c713b& [17-Apr-25 06:40 AM] jerry.9790#0000 ok thnx [17-Apr-25 02:14 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 Does anyone produce PG here? [17-Apr-25 02:57 PM] akyantor#0000 Yes, I produce a bunch of Agamemnon for various production lines. {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [17-Apr-25 03:04 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 I need PG and NL for LDE production on Deimos. [17-Apr-25 03:09 PM] akyantor#0000 I mostly consume my own supply, as it were... but plenty available at the CX. ๐Ÿ™‚ {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Apr-25 03:10 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 I think thats going to be my next base. NL base [17-Apr-25 03:10 PM] marat_sh#0000 PG is in massive supply on CX [17-Apr-25 03:11 PM] marat_sh#0000 NL is used to be supplied as well but production got shifted a bit so not aure how it is right now [17-Apr-25 03:11 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 Right. I was wondering if anyone could supply it to me in house and cheaper. [17-Apr-25 03:12 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 But I think producing my own supply long term is the better option. [17-Apr-25 03:12 PM] marat_sh#0000 I have a plan on starting a PG plant but itโ€™s in the drawing board state {Reactions} ๐Ÿ”ฅ [17-Apr-25 03:12 PM] mrsmith33#0000 I have my own PG/NL/LDE production which I mostly use myself [17-Apr-25 03:13 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 Thats what im going for. [17-Apr-25 03:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 In general if base of that item you gonna be using is over 50k/d Itโ€™s better if you make your own {Reactions} ๐Ÿ‘ [17-Apr-25 03:13 PM] marat_sh#0000 If itโ€™s cheaper just buy from CX [17-Apr-25 03:13 PM] weltkriegdrei#0000 Smart. I agree [17-Apr-25 03:14 PM] mrsmith33#0000 Money doesn't matter (except taxes) if you produce everything yourself {Reactions} ๐Ÿ’ฏ (2) [17-Apr-25 03:14 PM] marat_sh#0000 My most expense are RATs [18-Apr-25 12:37 AM] martin1194#0000 To everyone who has weekly contract with me about FIM. The price still set at 2400 not 2800 since HER price not that high now. (not including allocator) :hh: {Reactions} danceboi [18-Apr-25 07:28 AM] lax9552#0000 Which fuel is historical more in demand? It seems like FF but I use way more SF personally. [18-Apr-25 07:28 AM] lax9552#0000 I make both but it seems FF has more volume than SF. [18-Apr-25 07:43 AM] mrsmith33#0000 I use more SF than FF [18-Apr-25 08:00 AM] sidepipe#0000 I use more FF, but thatโ€™s because I have a lot of bases that are far apart [18-Apr-25 08:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 generally SF, check the CXM page for both [18-Apr-25 08:49 AM] marat_sh#0000 SF > FF you can check it by default settings for flight path [18-Apr-25 09:04 AM] archielvahr#0000 Weekly volume for FF is about 1m units. Universe-wide. For SF it's like 2.3m [18-Apr-25 03:48 PM] lax9552#0000 Tyty [20-Apr-25 12:07 AM] martin1194#0000 Allocator, FIM price I will reduce to 2400 as other Ooga members too. Since HER price is stable right now. {Reactions} โค๏ธ (2) [20-Apr-25 12:07 AM] martin1194#0000 Also, the FIM CX price is 2700ea. That is no reason I still selling to u at 3000ea [20-Apr-25 11:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-04-20_23-29-43.png {Embed} http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-04-20_23-29-43.png https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/yNJmEHKiHM4uxpMLB5apKr7_8WZXVgLwqlMaEKNQrSE/http/kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-04-20_23-29-43.png {Reactions} ๐Ÿคฃ fishahhh (2) ๐Ÿ‘€ [20-Apr-25 11:30 PM] archielvahr#0000 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [21-Apr-25 12:14 AM] bookliko#0000 I see plenty buy and sell orders up ๐Ÿ™‚ [21-Apr-25 08:00 PM] martin1194#0000 Is that the chart broken in here? {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1364043093464322088/image.png?ex=6814c1e0&is=68137060&hm=6db2e0fa68baf6589c55794001bc31cba029f02fc2afcc3b3ad450aa6f8f0062& [21-Apr-25 10:13 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah it's broken for me too [24-Apr-25 10:07 AM] pagy1234#0000 big profitable FX trade if someone with the money wants to do it {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1364981181912715264/Screenshot_2025-04-24_at_11.07.25_PM.png?ex=6814dfc9&is=68138e49&hm=1aee15fba365d7ad2fe5f6ecfdb5e5c31b25ff4b8299828fcad3706be162d2d6& [24-Apr-25 10:08 AM] pagy1234#0000 not like you make a ton of money, but its something [24-Apr-25 07:30 PM] marat_sh#0000 @sidepipe do you still have problems with shipping? I have 2 (2k/2k) to help out with logi (for free) [25-Apr-25 05:58 AM] martin1194#0000 Weekly contract sent, the price of FIM,MEA is reduce to 2000 and 4000 {Reactions} โค๏ธ [25-Apr-25 01:55 PM] sidepipe#0000 I've managed to mostly catch up, but thank you for offering! {Reactions} ๐Ÿซถ [29-Apr-25 05:58 AM] pagy1234#0000 anyone got some fuel on heph? [29-Apr-25 05:59 AM] pagy1234#0000 kinda forgot to bring it for my new ship lol [29-Apr-25 05:59 AM] pagy1234#0000 now its all new and shiny but stuck D: [29-Apr-25 06:04 AM] pagy1234#0000 only need like 200sf [29-Apr-25 06:14 AM] sidepipe#0000 I donโ€™t have any at Heph, but I can rush a ship over if that helps [29-Apr-25 06:17 AM] pagy1234#0000 ah its ok, not super urgent, if you are going to heph anyways then sure, but otherwise its really fine [29-Apr-25 06:30 AM] melon164#0000 I have loads [29-Apr-25 06:33 AM] pagy1234#0000 nice, il send you a cont for 200 [30-Apr-25 03:35 PM] swatacular#0000 Just discovered xit act [30-Apr-25 03:35 PM] swatacular#0000 dude.. that makes LIFE SO MUCH EASIER [30-Apr-25 03:35 PM] marat_sh#0000 Same reaction when I discovered options on Robinhood [30-Apr-25 03:36 PM] swatacular#0000 options on robinhood? [30-Apr-25 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854795108720443395/1367238912883294371/1FA09E44-F4A0-4BC9-8B52-0A04C9E38683.png?ex=68152d76&is=6813dbf6&hm=fc5d84b659446cdb88bd77a02817895f8a187e2ad5d56f6fae70f381e78036f5& [30-Apr-25 03:39 PM] marat_sh#0000 That you can make and lose money really fast ๐Ÿ˜… [30-Apr-25 03:41 PM] marat_sh#0000 Xit act is cool but i still load everything manually ๐Ÿ˜… [30-Apr-25 03:44 PM] marat_sh#0000 But xit act was groundbreaking when came out [30-Apr-25 11:30 PM] martin1194#0000 Was thinking what app is it. [30-Apr-25 11:30 PM] martin1194#0000 Then, I noticed NVDA ============================================================== Exported 17,430 message(s) ==============================================================